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Professor iPod Discusses Device's Social Impact
PurdueGraphicsMan writes "There's an interesting story over at Wired News, involving an interview with UK university professor Dr. Michael Bull, apparently the 'world's leading expert on the social impact of personal stereo devices,' according to The New York Times. The piece also mentions: 'Bull, a lecturer in media and culture at the University of Sussex in the United Kingdom, is the author of 'Sounding out the City: Personal Stereos and the Management of Everyday Life', a book Bull calls the 'definitive treatment' of the impact of the Sony Walkman and its descendants.'"
...very fitting for people who proclaim themselves the "world's leading expert on the social impact of personal stereo devices."
;)
I'm sure it's quite flattering to the elitist Apple snots, though.
Some street urchins tried to beg some loot from us the other day (while I was down in Nakhon Si Thammarat, in the south of Thailand). Normally they just sit there, wai, and wobble back and forth..but these two fucks actually walked up to us.
The first kid waied and then approached us..we walked by him with minimal body contact, but the second kid approached us with his hands out like he wanted to give my woman a hug. Little fuck came a little too close and violated our personal space, so i stepped in for a leg sweep and gave the fucker a jab in the shoulder, sending him the fuck out of our way.
Note to beggers: get the fuck away from me and if you touch my girlfriend I'll fucking jack you.
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Is he anything like Dr. Pepper? If so, I want to see his credentials.
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Even Mr. T thinks you should buy one! And with advertisements like this one, all the fans of Dude, Wheres My Car will want one. Those two should take care of most of the US population, I'm sure.
True story.
Sounds like a load of Bull to me.
Half the people I've talked to so far download music illegally.
He must be new at this.
the world's leading -- perhaps only -- expert
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why yes... it causes the user to turn entirely black with white headphones showing.
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Back in the 80s, I wanted to buy a Walkman, but I couldn't find one with OGG on it. Stupid closed-source fascists!
Obviously Dr. Michael Bull forgets about the DRM built into the device. He should have read FSF's The Right to Read article. However, the DRM on the ipod thanks to DVD Jon, so it doesn't matter anyway.
hey guys,
:) if you're reading this, i look forward to meeting you in person, john!
i'm not sure exactly what i'm doing here. so...bear with me!
i clicked "geeky" on my match.com personals profile, thinking that i'd maybe get hooked up with somebody who was into math or some kind of toy train hobby or something...boy howdy was i in for a shock! i went on 4 dates with guys who all got on match.com because of osdn personals from slash-dot! 4 guys!
anyway, it didn't really work out with any of them, because it seemed like they were all under some kind of mind-control robot or something! i was like "what do you think about office? office 97 is enough for me, but there are some things about xp that are cool too...." the first guy i asked that to exploded on this tyrade about how office was evil, and that it uses html that's invalid...blah blah blah, whatever...i figured "ok, this guys a freak, but i'm not giving up that easily." so guy number two and i are having dinner, and just as a test i bring up office, and he says the *exact* *same* *things* the first guy said! it was like he was reading from a script! i'm thinking to myself "is everybody from slash-dot programmed to say the same thing or what?" i decided to do a bit of investigation.
i actually surfed over to slash-dot and read some of the articles...mostly they were pretty boring, and the comments were just like i expected judging from my previous past experience: scripted!!! just when i was about to completely write the whole thing off, i found a post from some guy who's with anti-slash, some kind of anti-slash-dot website. i mailed him and was all "i so agree with you guys, look at what sheap these slash-dot people are!" he wrote back and made some funny comments (funny and so *true*!...that is soooo the best kind of humor...but i dirgress...) and guess what? this weekend i'm supposed to meet him for dinner
anyway, that's my story. ladies: if you're looking for the real cool geeks, check out anti-slash. and fellas, you should check it out too and maybe use to to break out of your mind-control suits!
ok see ya later,
cyndi
Dr. Bull's work reminds me of Sweden's social engineering efforts. How we use something, how far do we go to utilize the device(s), etc.
Dr. Bull says, "It gives people totally private worlds." While that may be true, it also removes people from social interaction, which is vital for mental health.
It's blue and it plays music real good. I walk around with it and listen to music. It's pretty.
Thank God there are scientists researching this shocking phenomenon.
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Ever since I got my iPod I listen to KMFDM when I decide that the ultra heavy beat is more important than whatever Professor Whatshisnuts decides to talk for the sake of time filler.
.deviatefromtheabsolute.
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"There's a lot of studies in the literature that demonstrate with the urban space, the more it's inhabited, the safer you feel. You feel safe if you can feel people there, but you don't want to interact with them."
When I use my iPod in public, I often realize that by avoiding that interaction, I may feel more 'safe' but I am also missing out. Usually I take my iPod headphones out when I'm in a situation where I could interact with people. I like my music, but I think the sense of security is very false.
Whether it's intuition or hard research, more often than not Apple gets it right. The other computer companies usually go for "good enough" and as cheap as they can make it, and that got them market share but not that much loyalty. Now that the computer companies are being forced by reduced margins into the consumer electronic space, they are going to be faced with a different mindset. People who buy electronic widgets do not say, "Hey, who cares if it's a beige box, I don't care what it looks like, I just want cheap!" Instead people want stereos and televisions and DVD players that have quality features and look good with the rest of their stuff. Low price works to some degree here, but high-end does quite well too.
Apple has been there all along. There's a reason Apple users tend to be loyal despite the occasional hiccups from Apple and historically higher margins: They get it right. And boy does that matter in the consumer electronic marketplace. For proof of that, just walk around any large city and count the iPods. They got it right.
I recently learned that iPods don't have user servicable batteries.
This is correct right? If not ignore this.
Anyway, based on that, it is also the sign of a trend toward "throw away" devices that cost hundreds of dollars. I think that is a trend that humans should avoid.
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
hey guys,
:) if you're reading this, i look forward to meeting you in person, john!
i'm not sure exactly what i'm doing here. so...bear with me!
i clicked "geeky" on my match.com personals profile, thinking that i'd maybe get hooked up with somebody who was into math or some kind of toy train hobby or something...boy howdy was i in for a shock! i went on 4 dates with guys who all got on match.com because of osdn personals from slash-dot! 4 guys!
anyway, it didn't really work out with any of them, because it seemed like they were all under some kind of mind-control robot or something! i was like "what do you think about office? office 97 is enough for me, but there are some things about xp that are cool too...." the first guy i asked that to exploded on this tyrade about how office was evil, and that it uses html that's invalid...blah blah blah, whatever...i figured "ok, this guys a freak, but i'm not giving up that easily." so guy number two and i are having dinner, and just as a test i bring up office, and he says the *exact* *same* *things* the first guy said! it was like he was reading from a script! i'm thinking to myself "is everybody from slash-dot programmed to say the same thing or what?" i decided to do a bit of investigation.
i actually surfed over to slash-dot and read some of the articles...mostly they were pretty boring, and the comments were just like i expected judging from my previous past experience: scripted!!! just when i was about to completely write the whole thing off, i found a post from some guy who's with anti-slash, some kind of anti-slash-dot website. i mailed him and was all "i so agree with you guys, look at what sheap these slash-dot people are!" he wrote back and made some funny comments (funny and so *true*!...that is soooo the best kind of humor...but i dirgress...) and guess what? this weekend i'm supposed to meet him for dinner
anyway, that's my story. ladies: if you're looking for the real cool geeks, check out anti-slash. and fellas, you should check it out too and maybe use to to break out of your mind-control suits!
ok see ya later,
cyndi
'world's leading expert on the social impact of personal stereo devices,'
Wow... I'll bet that one was a highly-contendted for title....
I think he makes a point when he says that there is some music that is personal, which you claim as your own for listening. As a listener of different genres of music, with a strong experimental streak, I prefer the option of not subjecting my room-mates to my experiments. The music we share is different from what I listen to on my own. Being not from the US (I'm Indian, as in a brown one), I really can't expect my hindi song-fan friends to share my enthusiasm for Chemical Brothers or Fatboy Slim.
"A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy." --Theodore Roosevelt
what about us people for which an ipod represents an entire paycheck or more?
thanks a fuckin' lot you elitist pricks
Social interaction is vital, but it's not all mentally healthy. I used to be a regular bus commuter, and I was forced to interact with all kinds of people on the bus and at the bus stop, many of whom were unpleasant to be forced into close proximity.
A good Walkman was *vital* for my mental health.
And when I was in college walking to/from class or wherever, a good walkman made the walk more enjoyable. It's not like I was going to have a social interaction with 99.9999% of the strangers I walked past in the first place.
Why are people suddenly questioning Professor iPod's, uh, I mean Dr Bull's credentials? I'm telling you, that guy is so misunderstood.
Just let go of your suspicion and paranoia and put your trust in someone for a change. What's the worst that can happen?
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
This man has used computers to teach for a long time.. He used to make hypercard stacks with his students, to store key cases and biographical information of justices.
More recently, he's made oyez.org, where users can listen to oral arguments on all these Supreme Court cases that get argued over on /.!
Jerry Goldman got his picture in the NY Times holding his iPod, and he was thinking about its teaching potential way before it was the hip/ubiquitous gadget on campus.
What a great guy. Best thing is, he sends out syllabi in PDF, unlike the idiot PhDs who use Word docs, which bothers me because I'm using an ancient linux laptop.
is this really interesting at all? how is this guy an expert.
he tells us that personal stereo's allow ppl to create their "own worlds" and "give them control" -- no kidding.
who didn't know this?
Cultural Studies is very particular in the UK compared to the US version. Also Cultural Studies is more dominant than it's US counterpart.
As a discipline it is well respected in it's theoretical break from English Literature. I.e. we can have TV and radio and internet. "Pop culture" not just shakespeare and opera of high brow snobbery. An interesting discipline to say the least. The problem that many slashdotters might have with it is that it is not "scientific" and is overly concerned with aesthetics rather than politics.
This problem is solved, in part, but Media Studies which is in turn a break from Cultural Studies. Media Studies not only views the aesthetic and popular culture, it examines the way in which media operate as political constructs. It also doesn't deny the possibiliy of "research" and could best be described as Cultural Studies meets Sociology meets Politics. Politics is given preference over "art", because if art is political then one can't view it in the abstract right? So "media studies" isn't some weak Public Relations wannabe cop-out subject - it is the end-point of a massive evolution from English Literature to a more relevant and theoretically grounded area in which social research can be conducted, albeit with much time devoted to questions of research in and of itself (i.e. theory, qualitative and quantitative debates).
In other words Media Studies is something worth checking out in the liberal arts because it encompasses philosophy, politics, pop culture and studies of power all inside a carefully crafted approach to pragmatic research.
Notes on "philosophy" vs Media and Cultural Studies
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You will find many high brow philosophy ppl looking down on cultural studies and criticising it. But the basic difference between the two that I will put here is --- philosophy assumes the operation of logic is "given" and aspires to "truth". Whereas cultural studies says there is language, but that language is inherently unstable and therefore we cannot rely on it as a 100% pure form of communication. Cultural Studies also critically reflects on what is considered "logic".
In other words in philosophy some things are "out of bounds" and in Cultural Studies and Critical Theory they are not --- who then is being more intellectually rigorous? Also there is little to no teaching of 20th century "postmodernism" in Philosophy departments, whereas in Cultural Studies we welcome all of the philosphical tradition and there are no "right" answers to these debates (as they are ongoing debates, how could there be a right answer just yet - if ever).... Again, who is being more rigorous and who is excluding things?
In communist Russia the iPod doctors you.
I'd check out his seminal 8-Track: A New Social Order before jumping to conclusions.
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As far as "social isolation" goes, the iPod is not really any different than any other personal stereo device made in the past 20 years. Long before I had an iPod, I had a personal cassette player, a personal radio, a personal CD player, and yes, even a Rio 500. The iPod is better in the sense that it stores my entire CD collection. That fact sells iPods, but doesn't change the social relationship of the device.
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It's not really personal now. I want a direct link into cranial nerve 8, the vestibulocochlear nerve!
-I am an elective eunuch.
Last week at BestBuy I found a CD player for $20.00 that reads MP3 files on CD-Rs and CD-RWs.
I got one and it plays my 15 cent CD-Rs with ten hours of music just fine. (although slow to start MP3 disks).
I had to replace to weird AC adapter connector though, because it was impossible to find a cheap AC adapter that fit the custom connector on it.
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Give me a break. Donnez-moi une break.
/. today, or what?
world's leading expert on the social impact of personal stereo devices
Just give me a fucking break.
Things slow at
Stop publishing this SHIT.
I recall that the big selling point of slashdot subscriptions was that you got to see articles before they were posted to the public.
Looks like I got the same deal with my Wired subscription!
microsoftword.mp3 - it doesn't care that they're not words...
So I'm supposed to believe a person named Dr. Bull? I'm sorry, I learned my lesson after erroniously trusting Dr. Poppycock
Please enlighten me, what's so different between an iPod and Discman, MD player or a shitty RCA mp3 player from RadioShak ? We get all those articles about how iPod changes social relationships and such. Take the article about some people plugging their headphones into other people's iPods. What is so different about iPod that it deserves that much attention and an article ? I am sure many people did that before iPod, in the era of MD player and Discman. Now this article. What is the point here ? That iPod is somehow special and turns people into musicheads ? How is that different than me listening to $10 AM/FM radio on the bus ? Bullshit I say.
I punched a baby once.
Bull: Right. In terms of usage, Apple got it intuitively right. People use (the iPod) as an alarm clock, and when they listen to it at night, they like the fact it can turn itself off...
My God, those Apple engineers are geniuses!
Let's see, I don't have an iPod, but my portable MD player can turn itself off. My $30 cassette player can turn itself off. The Sony radio-cassette player we had in our house thirty years ago could turn itself off.
In fact, that old Sony could even turn the radio off. With a tape playing, you could turn the radio on (which would override the sound from the tape), and when it got to the end of the tape, both the tape and the radio would shut off.
I find this completely inane. Why would people buy such an expensive device if they're only going to listen to the same 6 songs over the course of 3 months? Maybe it's a little more confusing as a musician and serious music listener. Personally I have a 40gb mp3 player, over 30 of those gigs taken up. I would go insane if my options were limited even in the slightest.
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it's not so often i come across people singing in the pubs anymore. old fellows, sure, but it's not so wide spread. Playing instruments, reading, even real conversations are being sweapt aside for game boy, iPod, and mobile phones.
It used to be only doctors had pagers and cellphones. now every schmuck in the world has them and they use them all the time with total disregard for those around them.
screw reading the newspaper on my morning metro ride! I'm going to lsiten to my iPod and chat on AIM via my mobile phone!!
and people wonder why the younger generation gets stupider and stupider. It may have a lot to do with hippie pot smoking parents, but i think the widespread use of mind numbing electionic devices is more responsible.
they do make excellent substitutes for actually raising your kids though.
He spent the other $50 bucks that would have went to the Universal Church of Life for a Doctorate of Infinity on ramen and a hotplate.
Anyone done a study of the impact of the iPod on wishful marketing-driven jabber?
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I've never seen a single human being carrying and listening to one.
But it's a story on
There's easier ways to prove you're a follower than pretending little white music boxes are cool.
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Remarkable insights (and you can sing along!)
He mentions that he found that people want to control their space, and not share the 'personal' music on their iPod, yet he has yet to identify the new aspect of personal music sharing known as 'iPod mugging', where you share your headphones with strangers and they share theirs with you.
This allows you an insight snippet into the strangers persona, and perhaps a serendipitous introduction to music you may otherwise never give a listen.
I hope his research isn't a hardwired fallback on his first such venture with the original WalkMan. Times and man change... If he simply changes the element of study, without being ready to change the methodology, he's ripe to miss the mark.
Sorry, but I don't have an iPod, and I don't know anyone who does, and I live in Silicon Valley. Even the Mac-heads at work agree that it is way too pricey to afford.
"eclectic online rock radio".
Request your free CD of my piano music.
I don't know anyone who even has an iPod, but I know lots of people who have portable cd players, for instance - many of which can play mp3 discs. I did see an iPod in CompUSA, once.
I submit that the iPod hasn't had any meaningful social effect, but that digital music, in general, has had quite a bit of impact in popularizing [to joe shmo] the notion of intangible intellectual property.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Hey, am I the only person that would jack into my Walkman without listening to anything, just so people wouldn't bother me?
Not adding anything here, but it is a handy dodge.
The brave crew manning the Mount Washington Observatory in North Conway, NH are in severe peril. Due to the extreme temperatures, they have not been able to actuate a team rotation for the last week.
If this cold snap does not moderate soon, they are in danger of exhausting their entire food and oxygen stores!
Just last night, a member of the observation team became trapped behind a shack fifty yards from the observatory deck, because of the unrelenting 100+ mph winds.
Read more about it here
And here is a picture of some of the observation team members who were forced outside -- all with bare skin exposed to the sub-zero cold -- to escape a deadly carbon-monoxide leak emanating from the building's only furnace unit!
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This has got to be a joke. Wired is really scraping bottom with this. Worse yet, the PR flacks at Apple are giggling their asses off: They've managed to revive some of the hysteria that accompanied the Walkman's introduction in c. 1981. Wired (and the general public, it would seem) have swallowed this ploy hook, line, and sinker.
"the aesthetic was in the cover of the record. You had the sleeve, the artwork, the liner notes. With the rise of digital, the aesthetic has left the object -- the record sleeve..."Wow. This guy is quite the sage.
"The aesthetic has moved from the disc to what you play it on"
Yeah. Unlike, say, the boombox...
Wearing headphones in a crowded environment gets you run over from behind.
I think Professor iPod did it in the conservatory with the led pipe.
I don't mean to boast but I believe that I am one of only two researchers in this field. The other refuses to publish fearing that it may start more discussion of societal impact since the result of such discussions is mostly negative, at least according to his latest findings.
After three years of detailed questionaires and the use of various statistical models I have found that most people that discuss impacts of things on society fall into 4 categories.
Those that think the impact is negative, those that think the impact is positive, those that really don't think there was and impact at all, and finally by far the largest group is those that don't even know what you are talking about.
I have yet to find find any exceptions to this rule. Take any set of data points, the comments posted to this article for instance, and you will quickly see that each comment easily falls into one of the 4 categories.
Would anyone like to discuss the impact this research might have on their decision to make future posts to
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UK university professor Dr. Michael Bull, apparently the 'world's leading expert on the social impact of personal stereo devices' I also wonder about Professor iPod's credentials, like where he got them, and how he got them. Is there a lot of reading on this subject? That's like saying "I'm a hippo psychologist"
If it hurts, don't do it
Those kids never listened to us old folk anyway.
Those kids and their iPods... And GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMN KIDS!
If you live in USA, then FYI (so you don't get a ticket) in Washington it is illegal to drive while wearing headphones. The phone headsets are ok cause they only cover one ear as far as I know. Other states probably have similar laws.
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Target had the 10GB 3G Ipod for 150$, on clearance. Went like hot-cakes. Check at a Target near you!!
Good thing you didn't tell them it was $400!!
So let's see, I got a 10GB portable hdd + mp3 player for 150$ (7.5 times what you paid), 10GB/800MB = 12.5 times the capacity, along with tremendous extra functionality.
All bow to his Noodliness!! His Noodle Appendage has touched me!
The biggest thing that has affected me with the ipod is to take "ipod naps" while say in line or waiting. I don't want to listen to it all the time for saftey reasons. For instance once or twice I became so lost in thought then when I finally snapped too I was suprised that I missed an important announcement, bus, subway, or approaching car. But say I'm waiting for a plane and I know that I'm not going to miss anything for the next 10 min or so. And say I'm hungover. Then the situation calls for "God send death" by slayer. A quick 5 min "ipod nap". Then say I'm waiting for lunch break to finish (or waiting for lunch break to begin) then I might listen to another song. Whatever fits my mood at the second. I think the article misses the fact that your have 2500 songs or so at your disposal. And at any second - if nothing is going on- you can select the song that most matches your mood.
my girlfriend can fit two of them up her pussy. it's red-hot ipod sex.
we're going to see just how many we can stuff in there before she shrieks in pain. then she'll let me see if I can put a broom handle up through her pussy and out her mouth. "CHOKE ME FROM BELOW BABY!" she says.
I dont have an iPod, but i do have a 20gb portable. I usually listen to one playlist. That playlist happens to be my entire collection of 5700 songs. Sometimes i'll hear the same song twice in 2 days, other times i'll hear something i havn't heard in months. If i really wanna listen to something specic i can acess it quickly enough, but the master shuffle is only 2 button presses after the unit powers up.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Ok so I don't own a iPod, I own a competeing product that's similar in size and capacity, and I only use it about an hour a day whenever I'm exercising. It's not attached to my head 24/7, and I don't understand how a simple mp3 player can have any impact on society. Cellphone sure, but mp3 player?
my karma will be here long after I'm gone
It's OK. Feel the pain of that trauma. This is Slashdot. You can cry here.
If the iPod is the treasure chest for the online music pirate's treasure, then does that mean this guy is actually Professor Booty?
... that you investigate, only so you can at read all the comments rated (+5 Funny)? = )
the karma. But I have been on slashdot for over 4 years now and this is the first story I have seen about my old University.
Point of interest:
One of our Profs got the (joint) Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1996 for Buckminsterfullerene - the third form of solid carbon. My final year project was based on the stuff. Woo!
Yay to Sussex - it is a lovely place and some of the happiest times of my life. Any campus with 8 seperate bars has to be a cool place to spend a few years.
I notice it's the New York Times that call him the "expert" , not the academic himself. Plus he's a Doctor, not a Professor. Reputable universities (like University of Sussex) lay great store by peer approved nomenclature. Just some crap journalist trying to make a story look more sexy for dumb readers who might think he's a surgeon if they call him "Doctor".
Pansy boy. I am the WORLD LEADING EXPERT on how plugging your genitals into a power outlet will make you a more dynamic person.
Well, the one obvious notable factor is that all of you live in Ontario, which isn't the warmest of climes. It could just be that the components Apple chose for the iPod don't do all that well with constant cold weather.
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This is plain and simple rubbish. I would rather listen to music in the car any day rather than some personal audio device. "Better" should be relaced with "more flexible" and then this would read true.
Music is about interaction. The most enjoyable moments when listening to music are usually the times when you are alone with it. Body movements come out easily as a reaction to your enjoyment. This can be done in the car but if you are doing it on the train most people are just going to look at you real funny (and perhaps point and laugh). The car also offers decent audio quality where you can feel the music rather than simply hear it.
Even though an ipod like device certainly makes my comute and other mindless boring moments far more enjoyable, its is far from my most enjoyable moments listening to music. I usually get home and put the same song I was listening to on the my 'real' stereo. Only then can I really enjoy it.
A PhD takes around 3 years to complete and has to be a thesis on a subject which has never before been studied in such depth- a completely novel piece. As a PhD student myself, I can tell you that the way most people manage this is to pick a subject so obscure that no-one else has ever studied it. By doing this, you become the worlds leading expert on a subject that very few people know (or want to know) anything about.
Quote: "- Also, when the battery is flat, the units data contents are not-transferrable" This is only right if you are using USB 2 or a cheaper firewire card. Apple computers (and I think the more expensive PC cards) transfer power through the firewire lead, which powers the ipod when connected, and recharges the battery too.
As a fact, Philosophy is the very one sience that has itself (as well as other siences) as a subject.
By what measure is philosophy a science? Nietszche, Derrida, and Plato, are all considered philosophers but none, and I mean none, of them are scientists. Natural Philosophy, as it was shaped in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, is the closest thing to science that philosophers have practiced.
That you are simple-minded enough to argue philsophy is equivalent to a very specific set of human discourses known as "science" shows that in the Twentieth Century most philosophy has degraded into a club of priggish self-appointed masters. Cultural theorists, scientists, and media theorists, no longer bother to look to (most) philosophers because so many of you are caught in the trap of analytical philosophy which even Wittgenstein had the sense to abandon.
I have yet to find find any exceptions to this rule. Take any set of data points, the comments posted to this article for instance, and you will quickly see that each comment easily falls into one of the 4 categories.
Where does your post go?
I used to use a MD player, and they're no smaller once you add the 10-15 minidiscs you need to carry around to be sure to have something even remotely close to what you're in the mood for listening to. I guess you could fairly compare a MD player to an iPod if you schlep a couple of shoulderbags full of discs around with you. Of course, that amount of media would cost more than the iPod, even ignoring the size and weight...
its pretty obvious that the name 'professor ipod' makes me throw up.
Dr. Bull says, "It gives people totally private worlds." While that may be true, it also removes people from social interaction, which is vital for mental health
Too much social interaction is bad for mental health. We are, in the most literal sense, still animals, products of millions of years of evolution, with deeprooted survival instincts.
Every unknown living entity we encounter needs to be assessed, subcounsciously, as to whether it is a potential threat to our wellbeing. Thus moving through large crowds of unknown people in modern cities is very tiring & stressfull, even though we don't realize why.
iPods or drugs can numb the effect, and be a positive influence... "reality is for people who can't handle drugs". Those who buy competing brands instead of iPods have no mental health to start with, so they're lost anyway
"These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others." --Groucho Marx
The only reason this ugy has been singled out along with the iPod is that Wired is heavily Mac biased. Especially, Kahney who is a fan boy in the extreme and about as far from an unbiased journalist as you can get.
Having been a supporter of mp3 players for a while, I previously had the first Rio available, then went to mp3cd, had the first mp3cd available, then went with another mp3cd player.. and recently just got the iPod.
I by far like the iPod the best out of any of them. Firewire interface is great, was able to fill 15 gb within a couple of minutes.. I've found myself now listening to it on the way to my car, while folding laundry, in my car with iTrip FM broadcaster.. The size of the actual device, the ease of use of the interface and buttons, the large storage capacity, are all amazing.. battery life is enough to get me through a full day of work to.
You see people wearing their iPod white earbuds everywhere. Don't they realise the earbuds are some of the worst out there? The iPod sounds horrible with them - you have to spend a bit of money on proper headphones/earbuds to really appreciate the sound. I feel sorry for those still using the original ones. I don't know how to break it to them... It's like buying a ferrari, and staying in 1st gear.
rule of thumb: you should pay about the same for your stereo
system as you pay your whole music collection.
example: say you've the kind of person who's only bought 10 CDs.
at ~CDN$15/each, that's about $150 - so you shouldn't buy a stereo
worth more than about $150 - a cheap gheto blaster will do you fine.
on the other hand -- say you're the kind of person who's really
into music, and you've bought yourself about 300 - 400 CDs - at the
same rate, that's about $4500 - so you shouldn't feel bad about going
out and getting yourself the high-end LINN stereo system to listen to
them on, since you're probably also the kind of person who's going
to appreciate that kind of system.
if you're in the middle -- say you've got a modest collection of about
30-50 CDs - at ~$15/each -- well then the cost of an ipod would about
match that, and you'd be in the right range to be buying such a device.
the cost of the player shoud roughly equal the cost of your collection.
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johnrpenner.
Isn't it odd that the /. mods don't consider throw away mentality a social [and thus ontopic] development the iPod has brought about?
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
So it is innovative because it takes an ipod more time to turn off then a tape?
I sware just about every thing Apple does is claimed innovative, even if the so called innovation has existed for years. It is as if something is by Apple it is magically innovative, and good luck trying to convince the fanboys other wise. They will try to come up in their minds with what ever they can to make it innovative.
"The ipod is 10 GB and can shut down after playing, so unlike tape players and other devices that have done this for years it is another Apple innovation!"
that is all.
My job often involves work that is more easily done late at night when the users aren't logged into their machines or asking me questions about how to fix their home PC. As a result, it's not uncommon for me to be the only person in the building for hours at a time doing tedious work.
:-)
In instances like that my iPod is a lifesaver. It keeps me marginally entertained and gives my brain something to do, allowing me to get a lot more work done before hitting my boredom limit. It's unobtrusive and helps pass the time. I'm willing to trade off the possibility of meaningless social interaction with the cleaning crew or the security guards for that!
It's also my primary music source in my car, since there's been little worth listening to on the radio since our local pirate station got busted a few years ago.
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why not just buy a crappy laptop
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Hmm .. I think it had a big impact. It just didn't change anything.
Not that this wasn't entirely predictable.
I think it's a lot more of the "music" that makes teens how social they are, other than the IPod device itself. It could be the same way if you're using Napster's little mp3 player or just a standard CD player.
"Instant gratification takes too long." - Carrie Fisher