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Google's Next Steps
danimlp writes "An article at SearchEngineWatch states that Google and Yahoo have become as almost parts of the operating system, a 'layer' above Linux, Windows or Mac OS. Another article at Kottke.org says that Google is building a a huge computer with a custom operating system that everyone on earth can have an account on. Some people predicts that, after Gmail, Google could start a new instant message service or even its own electronic currency."
*dons tin foil hat*
If google prints money maybe I can be a googillianaire.
harmonious design
The only "Google Desktop" I would consider using would be one that ran on X. And at this point windowmaker does me just fine. If google could make a window manager that was truly effective and integrated directly with their upcoming gmail/web storage, then maybe Microsoft would have to start worrying.
Imagine a beowulf cluster of... Oh, wait...
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living."
- Seneca
Well, from where they are now, Google could do pretty much anything and people would use it. They could easily be as pervasive as AOL or even Microsoft is to most people.
And the l33t shall inherit the 34r7h.
Hwo do you pronounce that? Like Goose?
Moo!
They could, but they know they shouldn't, and we all know they won't.
Don't try to do everything Google, you can't win (well, no one else has).
Google has stayed away from Portal Fever so far, and hasn't gotten too cluttered, but they run that risk the bigger they get. There are plenty of companies that do very well in "niche" markets. Basically ALL users will always need a search engine (even more as the web grows), you don't NEED to offer everything.
Just stay as objective and useful as possible, and people will stay. Honestly I think they should be focusing on cleaning up search results. There is an increasing amount of spam and while it's not their fault, who wouldn't want cleaner, more accurate results?
Thats why MS put som much effort into Explorer..Internet Explorer.
Ballamer recently bemoaned the MS lack of precense in the search engine and portal space.
Do I detect a deja vu!
And if you thought that was boring you obviously havn't read my Journal ;-)
Are these people crazy?
Speculation: in the next few months, Google will abolish world hunger and buy everyone a pony. Google is search engine, not the second coming of Christ.
a huge computer with a custom operating system that everyone on earth can have an account on.
Some people predicts that, after Gmail, Google could start a new instant message service
or even its own electronic currency.
Gee, I don't know. I thought they had a good search engine.
Business isn't willing to pay for products, innovation and careers, so we get brands, mortgage commercials and layoffs.
I'm amazing. You aren't. SUCK IT
I, for one, welcome our Googlerian Overlords
I need to get a hold of some stock in Google
Google seems to be very analagous to Apple's development in many ways: 1. Start offering one revolutionary (not neccecarily original) service or product (Apple: cheap computers, Google: search) 2. Become a household name 3. Slowly add more services/products that are somewhat related to the core product (Apple: iMovie, et al, Google: GIS, Gmail, et al) 4. Take over the world (forthcoming) Microsoft has also arguably followed this track, but has actually made it to the last step. My hypothesis is that once you reach step 4, people start hating you.
welcome our new web-app overlords!
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-Colin
This just in: "Google to define a new universal standard of internet measurement, called a G-Unit."
From http://www.kottke.org/04/04/google-operating-syste m "So. They have this huge map of the Web and are aware of how people move around in the virtual space it represents. They have the perfect place to store this map (one of the world's largest computers that's all but incapable of crashing)."
SkyNet? Is that you?
Google mail would be nice, especially if it had quality POP3/IMAP access that only cost $5-10/month. But that's nothing terribly special, there are some good services out there that already do that. Now if they made Google chat available, and based made it a Jabber based service and just put the Google name it on, that'd be awesome. It'd have the name recognition to get popular, and programs like gaim wouldn't have to constantly fight for access like they do with the AIM, Yahoo, and MSN protocols.
ce n'est pas un Sig.
how prominent Google and Yahoo have become as almost parts of the operating system
Ok, so Google is a really good search engine (although you should also look at Vivissimo, it's quite excellent too) and I use it all the time, and everybody I know uses it all the time, and my dog would become depressed if he didn't use it regularly too. But Yahoo?
I don't remember the last time I used Yahoo. Or rather, I know I have an Egroups^H^H^H^H^H^HYahoo Groups account that I've given up on using since Yahoo decided to dump a million metric ton worth of advertisement on me in each page, and I think I went to yahoo.com to check it out with a glazed eye when I read somewhere that it stopped using the Google search engine not so long ago, like it mattered to anybody since I fail to remember anybody I ever met who uses Yahoo for anything whatsoever.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Today Google is an operating system layer.
Tomorrow they're a utility, like gas and electricity.
Next week they're a small government.
Next month they take over the world.
Maybe also the galaxy.
So Apple is just plain evil by invoking the DMCA. What about google? How are they with regards to IP--artificial scarcity? It's evil, evil, evil.
Google search, email, and file storage
Sun Java Linux desktops for home users
Sun Ray thin X clients for corporations
Sun enterprise servers running it all
How superb this could be...
and what would Microsoft do?
Cheers, Joel
Google now has all sorts of information on hand. They have the Google search engine to index web pages, various offshoots to index news, images, and similar, Orkut to index people, and Gmail to index peoples' communications. With all this information at their fingertips, the sky is the limit (and it is good to know they seem responsible in the way they use their information, separating advertisements from search results, for example). I know that Google has some exceptionally brilliant researchers on staff, and I expect to see even more excellent services from their camp in the future. Does anyone else think that Google is on the cutting edge of Computer Science research?
http://images.google.com/images?q=money&hl=en&lr=& ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
"The young lion [google] shall overcome the old [microsoft]/On the field of battle in single combat; [desktop]/In a cage of gold [computer] he shall pierce his eyes: [gates' breaks his glasses]/Two knells one, then to die, a cruel death [bankruptcy]"
If you have to ask, you'll never know.
... a search engine that I access occasionally a major part of my OS?
HYPE ALERT!
Sounds like more drivel from another one of those bozos that thought the web browser needed to be your desktop.
Please, not another new protocol, you insensitive clod!
However, Google Jabber servers would be cool!
Ebay is full of scammers and the feedback system is horribly broken since scammers can pad their own feedback, but if you leave them negative, they will leave you negative feedback as well as revenge. Somebody needs to come up with a better system and google has the ability to actually make a better system popular.
just the $.02 of someone sick of browsing pages of scams to find a dvd.
If I were Google's executives (and any future stockholders), I'd be getting the vote out for GWB this fall. We know where his administration stands on punishing monopolies.
Google is becoming a potential privacy monster; if you concider GMail and cross indexing with the terabytes of data they've gonna get theire hands on... You see, it includes never-to-be-deleted mail archives, all newsgroup postings since the 80's, mailing list archives, blogs, *cached* snapshots of personal web pages... the list goes on.
This "Google is God" concept is really interesting, We (Geeks) tends to have a "good guy" and a "buy guy" in the bigs company world, IBM has been the bad guy for years, m$ / sco could be thought as the bad boys, and google seemed to be a good guy candidat all the time, it's run by one of us, could it be otherwise?.
But what is really interesting, is, beyond the fact that some geeks has gone out of proportion in their google dependence, many non geeks has too!.
So the word Google has gone out to the streets, When you see all your techies friends has the same page as their Mozilla's home page, you just say "Slashdot, you are powerfull"; but when you see lots of non-techies that has the same page as their IE's Home page, and that page is not sport / porn related, Then we should start worring.
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
One word:
BEENZ.
It would follow the same model as Beenz's:
1) Launch currency
2) ?
3) Crash and burn like a plane made of pentane coated magnesium bricks!!!
I'm amazing. You aren't. SUCK IT
April 1st was 11 days ago....
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I'd like a pair of virtual stereo glasses that could project a screen in front of my eyes, and which would activate keyword searches using silent pre-vocal muscle movements. Then google would be an integral part of my being.
Wake up, folks, they are only going to give you an account where you can store your email and have a decent search engine connected to it. Frankly, I would feel uncomfortable giving my data to any company, especially if they are not obligated to destroy it after I terminate my account. They will have sifted it, analyzed it, and wrung it out like just-washed socks to use almost as they please long after it is out of my control.
I'm sure John Poindexter and John Ashcroft are starting to salivate over it.
Just remember, the reason Micro$osft was able to become our evil overlord is because we let them. We bought their software, we gave them our money, and we said "Here Bill, we trust you not to abuse us." Just because we all love Google doesn't mean we should allow power to be concentrated like that... we've already made that mistake once. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." -- attributed to Lord Acton, 1887
They let their trademark on "I'm Feeling Lucky" lapse last December. Perhaps it's a sign of things to come.
1) Custom OS, G-mail 2) ? 3) Profit (of course, all of it in Google e-currency)
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Let's be real. Google will not be selling PCs anytime soon with a "Goog" OS. Applications determine the success of any OS. And right now, Microsoft can run millions of apps.
Let's take it easy with the Google Is Taking Over the World stuff. Let them perfect search first. And they certainly have not won that battle yet.
-- You see, there would be these conclusions that you could jump to
I forgot one key thing...
Google users will need an office suite.
And guess what Sun happens to own...
This sounds so familiar...
Remember when Netscape was going to "replace the OS" back in the 20th century?
It never happened and I doubt if this will either.
Seems every time there is a company with lots of hype potential, predictions like this surely follow. (Usually right before Microsoft breaks their kneecaps.)
"Trademarks are the heraldry of the new feudalism."
This idea of their own currency sounds awfully like the plot of this book. I don't really think that is possible in this age. Even in the book it seemed a bit far fetched to me. Who knows though...I'd love for them to prove me wrong. Give me Google cash! :P
McK
Google aims for monopoly share, Slashdot prints neutral article.
Any guesses on the tone if this was Microsoft?
What Would the Terminator Do? I, for one, welcome our Google overlords!
When I search for something like:
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"Ted-bear"
it pulls up thisngs like "Ted,Bear", Teed Bear" etc . .
All I want it to hit on is "Ted-Bear" exactly like that, dash and all.
Anybody know how to do that?
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
Google IM, with alerts from Gmail would be great, they could possibly build on the jabber protocol, a big player behind standardization is always good. This might be going a little far, but online currency would also be good, but maybe not for google... We need something to replace paypal, something that could actually be regulated. One of the problems with paypal is that they're not accountable for their actions, because they're not a bank. I dont if google would want to enter this, or if they should, but somebody needs to replace paypal...
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
ARGH! LINUX!?!?
Not that Google's magic isn't in their own software, but the least they could do is mention that it's running on Linux.
Barclay family motto:
Aut agere aut mori.
(Either action or death.)
Add a google icon.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
So you're the one that bought windows.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur
I think you're looking for the term "stock options."
... try ZOE. The interface is sometimes clumsy, but the idea and the feeling are king.
Mi domando chi à il mandante di tutte le cazzate che faccio - Altan
This sounds like a number of cheesy science fiction plots. Will Google interface with nuclear missile technology as well? Stay tuned!
I wonder how 'general purpose' this will be, and what sort of apps they intend to offer... If its a true ASP they want to be....
And how you get to access it... Be it remote X ( bandwidth would suck ), ICA ( $$ ), RDP ( $$$ ), RFB ( do able with compression.. )
Or just some java/PHP/etc based apps + their search pages..
It might open a whole new market for those "tiny credit card live CD's "
Or it might be at total flop... And i still wouldnt trust them for 'real' data...
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Maybe they should put a Linux/Tech section in google news and put a discution forum on it. Then the users could be assigned some atributes... like PageRank... like a karma... oh, wait...
What would Google use it's own currency for? I really don't see a use for another useless internet currency (remember Beenz?). Actual currencies like USD or euros are actually backed by governments, whereas an e-currency like Beenz or Google's currency only has the backing of the company that created it.
I don't trust Google enough to believe that their currency has an actual value, and then they would have to convince actual businesses to take this currency. And then, if Google suddenly went bankrupt (not likely to happen, but nevertheless) the currency would be worthless.
The only way I would ever use a Google-backed currency (Goobacks anyone?) was if they took over the government of a small country.
In other news, Google plans to buy Denmark for 1.2 trillion in Goobacks.
Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?
I just want to know from a slashdotter if the beta is all it's cracked up to be. I've seen a few screenshots and some blathering about the GUI...but is it really that cool? Is there a NDC so you can't talk about it? So they are going to target ads based on e-mail content...what if you encrypt? Is this against the user agreemnet?
I just hope they can keep this together without becoming EVIL (read shareholder value centered)
Inquiring minds want to know.
McK
Really, until Google's G-mail becomes a reality, Yahoo is more or less necessary for e-mail -- what's the alternative, Snotmail?
Of course everyone has e-mail at work, but who's foolish enough to give *that* address to e-retailiers and risk missing something important at work in the deluge of spam...
NT
I would like to suggest you hope pretty hard that in seven months, a presidential administration is elected that is at least somewhat interested in enforcing antitrust laws.
Google is a great search engine, and a great company, but all this diversifying might turn google into yahoo, where the search engine only gets a small bar at the top of the page.
I mean, I don't even know anyone that has a Yahoo email address.
TWW
"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
If we have to, I think we can take Brin and Page over Ballmer and Gates any day.
At least Brin and Page can really program.
There is limited demand for web services today and I don't see this demand growing in the near future. There's only so much one can do in a web browser before you're better off working locally. Things like client-side ActiveX and Java, while supposedly making web services a reality, are slow, bulky, ugly and difficult to use.
Besides their foray into email (essentially nothing new), Google will find little potential for growth in their product line. I think the company should stick to improving their search technology by getting access to more data sources and making their results more relevant (there is still much work to be done!)... that's if they want to be dominant player 5 years from now.
Will I be able to become a citizen of Google? or maybe a virtual citizen, where I spend Google dollars, talk to people with google social networking (within google and outside), and my data resides in Google Land. Part of me is already there...
I'm surprised I haven't seen any posts about this...
Think about it, Google who has advanced searching technology is offering email accounts with practically unlimited (1gb) storage. This will sure catch a lot of spam. I hope they put two and two together and come up with the ultimate spamfilter!
Well, I can dream can't I?
True, and this is the google baar for mozilla, if you want one :)
My other car is first.
Everyone already has an account in the matrix. Why do you need another one?
Starbucks, Harbuckle of Breath.
Funny, I had just completed a research paper on Google for my corporate finance class. Anyhow, here's an excerpt from my paper.
To construct a "Google-killer" is intuitively rather simple, though logistically, quite difficult. Only companies as large as Microsoft or Yahoo may have the financial resources and manpower to carry out such a task. Nonetheless, one of the first steps would be to crawl every single page on the Internet. While Google has an index of 4,285,199,774 pages, it has been suggested that the Internet consists of over 1 trillion webpage's, most of which cannot be reached through the current PageRank algorithm that Google employs (Wired 12.03, 2004). Going through all these pages with a natural language search, and without sponsored advertisements would also be of significant benefit. Furthermore, an archive every single copy of every single webpage would be another "killer" feature. Finally, keeping track of up-to-the moment changes on every webpage through RSS feeds would also be considered another "killer" feature.
Hence, Google has to keep up with the progressing landscape of search technologies if it is to remain profitable. It was not too long ago that Netscape was thought to be unstoppable and considered to be the next Microsoft. An IPO, whether bookbuilding or Dutch Auction, will give Google some leverage to carry on its tremendous pace of innovation, and should allow it to possibly fend off the competition, at least in the short term. It may simply have to compromise between transparency and loyalty, and offer a combination of the Dutch Auction and bookbuilding to price its shares.
there are two well known ones that are up and running and viable. One is the Liberty Dollar, the other all electronic one is e-gold. Both are also tied to precious metals, and PM has been doing *quite* well the past little while and all indications show they will continue to do well.
I for one, am severely disappointed in the only way in which the word "overlord" has been used in the comments posted thusfar!
Please help metamoderate.
> Google and Yahoo have become as almost parts of
> the operating system, a 'layer' above Linux,
> Windows or Mac OS.
Google, yes, but Yahoo? They've got nothing I want.
Which is just as well as I'd rather not do business with people who'd call themselves "Yahoo".
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
When are these people going to realize that KDE is superior. This isn't a troll, it's the truth.
Like:
me> Sarah [Search]
Google> You mean Sarah Johnson?
me> [Enter]
Konqueror> a window opens... Sarah J. appears at her desk.
Sarah> Oh, hi.
me> Hi, Sarah...
They also have not announced that they were going to take over the UN and boot the US out of Iraq. Or that they're going to Mars, or the fact they're going to build a new internet backbone with solar powered UAVs. Or that they have found the cure for AIDS.
Not so paradoxically, that means that analyst is a moron.
Information: "I want to be anthropomorphized"
First off, Google hasn't done anything so far that they can't immediately see the return on investment. Look at their aquisitions:
- Deja.com: IMHO they bought this to 1) Remove Usenet from search results to improve quality and, 2) show applicable ads later.
- Applied Symantecs: The underlying technology for AdSense, which greatly expanded their contextual marketing market share.
- Pyra Labs: IMHO same basic principle as the Deja aquisition.
All of them directly affected their major revenue generator, search marketing, in a positive way. (Though blogger might have more untapped potential.)Now, in comparison, these other theories have no basis on reality. The fact that Google is in a position to have these wild rumors about their Godlike Power is a direct result of the highly profitable search advertising market.
So what is Google going to do with their money? Not piss it away on the logistical nightmares of "GooOS", or "Google Bucks." In fact, they will be effectively printing money by expanding in their core market with the likes of Froogle, GMail, Orkut, and other future innovations.
That 'squishy' sound you hear is MS sh*tting its pants.
Dawn of the Dead
Actually some sort of universal internet currency is not a bad idea at all. It could opererate just like any forigen currency with an exchange rate that responds to market forces. It might also make the tax rules very interesting both for consumers and google. Maybe they can buy a small island some place and claim to be their own small nation, where each cluster node is treated as a citizen. Wait maybe I am getting ahead of myself, but a separate web currency would be nice. It would make doing business on the net truely universal. You would not have to even think about what country the e-store you were buying from is in, other then for shipping cost reasons. It could really open a huge market, and make it much easier for small shops to operate internationally since they would only have to beable to accept the local currency and googolians.
Repeal the 17th Amendment TODAY! Also Please Read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
Google is simply the best search tool. Their other products have much more limited appeal:
Google News - is less concise and useful than subscription services or even that sensationalist site that everyone loves to hate.
Froogle - cannot overcome the lack of standards in the ecommerce world to make full ecommerce catalogs searchable.
The idea of "another os layer" is silly. Google is an application. Email is an application. It's not an OS.
-- $G
...say hello to googleworld!
Google is what it is today because it concentrated on what it does best, SEARCHING. All this talk about Google adding auctions, IM, chat, etc etc is just gonna distract Google.
Remember all of those other search engines turned "portal" (buzzword of the dot com days)? What happened to them? They all took a turn for the worst and got sideswiped by a little unknown company named Google. Let's stop it with trying to add "sticky" features. Stickiness and portals went out with the dot bombs.
Or has our memory faded so quickly?
eTrade SUCKS
It's way past my bedtime.
Too lazy to create a sig...
I had read it was 4,285,203,148 pages.
I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.
It's pretty awesome. Keyboard shortcuts, clean, simple user interface, labels, a distinction between the inbox and the archive... the list goes on. I also tested encrypted emails with GPG, and this does not violate the policies.
It's all that you'd imagine and more. I am thoroughly impressed, though I don't yet want to make it a primary account over the 100mb IMAP service I have.
nt
Being successful and having monopoly power are very different things.
Once Google starts systematically and successfully bringing their market power to bear in an anticompetitive manner, then you can start complaining.
Google may develop an online currency -- 'Googles,' if you like (http://www.emarketer.com/news/article.php?1002736 ).
Given that dictionary.com defines spot as an informal term for "a piece of paper money worth a specified number of dollars," I suggest there is no way Google will be able to prevent people from calling them "gSpots."
I believe Microsoft is working on a search system integrated into the next Windows version.
Slashdot is a little late... http://www.forumgeeks.com/forum/index.php?showtopi c=411 ...better late than never I guess. :)
Ok, so when does John Poindexter become an Officer of Google? Hmmmm??? The worlds biggest super computer that knows pretty much anything anyone does on the web... doesn't that fit nicely with the good Admiral's goal?
-x
Except this wasn't true, because:
- You cannot effortlessly switch to a different operating system. A large number of factors prevent you from doing so. For example, installing a new operating system involves hard drive partitioning, a long and lengthy install of something that could potentially be gigabytes in size, and transferring your data over. This is a difficult task. Moreover, you are locked in to your current OS by the programs you use: will those programs be available on your new OS? Will you be able to find replacements? Will you be able to seamlessly use your data in said replacements if they exist? The amount of consumer inertia in the OS market is simply enormous.
- Microsoft in myriad ways exerts its monopoly power to prevent anyone with a better product from being able to successfully compete. For example, its contracts with all of the major PC OEMs that blocked them from adopting BeOS to any extent.
Meanwhile, this argument is true with Google because of the market it's in. If you don't believe me, try to remember exactly how quickly we all forgot about AltaVista when google appeared. Switching away from google is effortless. You just type "www.hypothetical.com" instead of "www.google.com" next time; perhaps you'll have to install the hypothetical.com toolbar if you're using the google.com toolbar now. Even the proverbial "your grandmother" could do this. Google's inertia consists of nothing but mindshare. Moreover, Google lacks the ability and will to do things like abuse contracts in order to keep its competitors locked out of distribution channels such as OEMs.Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
Here's how I see it:
If Google starts offering a free 1000 MB of email account, what is stopping Yahoo/Hotmail etc from offering a 50 or 100 or even 1000 MB of free email account by making money in a similar way as google ?
Competition is good !!
Google would be the perfect people to take over the world. They could easily do it, too. Like in Cryptonomicon, with the online money thing. Sure, in the book, they didn't take over the world, but they took over the world on the Internet.
Help! I'm being repressed!
I would not want one company to control my e-mail, my search and my money.
Google may be a nice company right now, but who can say what Google will do. Do you want the next Microsoft(R) to control most of what you do online?
Sure, this looks nice. But I would be carfill. Tim
After Deep Thought has ingested all the knowledge on the Internet we can ask it the answer to life, the universe and everything.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
I am patenting the encryption software and Gmail Viewer that will interface with Gmail with one Click. Basically, you use Gmail/GOS for storage and email delivery but your content is encrypted using 128 bit or 256 bit or 512 bit or 1024 or 2048... encryption before it goes to Gmail servers. You just upload and download encrypted files and email messages to the Gmail Viewer on your PC using 1-click feature with your gmail user name and password...
Well, I am just kidding but what is to stop someone from creating such a viewer/encryptor if they want to keep their information private(less readiy accessible to Google bot/PhD's). If they want to read the content, they have to first break the encryption....using email viewer means that once you download attachment, the viewer decrypts it with the key and you can read the mail as if you were using it in your favorite POP mail reader....
I was afraid someone was going to chime in and say that. I want my @gmail address damnit! I would imagine there are no targeted ads when you use encryption? Or ads for commericial encryption packages? That would be rich...
How did you get selected for the beta? Or do you just have to be "in the know". I can't wait to get my hands on this!
McK
instead of saying "uh-oh" everytime you get a message it could play some annoying techno music.
Bleh!
It would be a disaster on par with the Titanic
I'd love a service that encrypted my hard drive data and did automatic offsite backups at night via an internet connection. Only I should have the decryption key. It should be secure and very easy to use, with versions of the client software that run on every popular OS. I'd gladly pay for this service. THAT'S what I'd like to see Google do if they want to leverage the goodwill they built based on their search engine business.
Of course, after the horribly invasive idea they floated last week for a Google email service (reading and storing my email, and selling info about me?), Google may not be the company I'd trust with my personal data.
>> My ultraviolent Linux switch video.
He happened to be "in the know". I'm sort of "in the know", but I still can't get a gmail account. I hear the beta is very limited.
I am defenseless. Use your button. Mod me down with all of your hatred.
There are two helpful links, one for GPG and the other for some old mac version of PGP.
This is not funny. As people always use young Google to compare with a young M$.
If Gates and Ballmer represent the typical Ivy league tactics turning M$ into a software powerhouse. I am pretty sure these Stanforders will turn Google into an internet powerhouse.
The question now... is not whether they can offer goods. But offering goods to the masses at what cause. Our privacy? Their monopoly? Our freedom of choice? Doesn't everyone have www.google.com as their home page.
I'm on the GMail Beta test, and it is indeed possible to delete email messages. Archive is the "default" action, but you can delete them if you really want to.
I for one welcome our new free universal computing overlords!
--- You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad- Neal (not Cowboy) Boortz
I just recently thought about how Google is becoming so massive and powerful that they might soon be equated to Microsoft, and how people hate MS so much but love Google to death. They both have control over their respective sectors, but I think the defining issue is what kind of business practices they keep and how open and giving they are to their "customers". If you ask me, it seems like Google is well on their way to being a monopoly that everyone loves.
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"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell
I've often thought google is the closest we've come to truly useful AI. You can practically ask it questions now, and with a bit more sorting/summarizing and a good voice UI, voila, the holy grail.
search for the zu dvd :
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google vs. yahoo,
yahoos results are more relevant.
http://www.google.com/froogle?q=legend+zu
http://search.shopping.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=Ar
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Google, if you decide you actually do want to do instant messaging, please just throw up a jabber server and give people a Google-branded client instead of re-inventing the wheel. I know I'm not alone in wanting wider adoption of Jabber, and Google could go a long way with that step.
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Conspiracy theorists need to change their focus from the United Nations to Google when they discuss who will insidiously try to take over and institute a "New World Order."
This page certainly makes me wonder.
I've found that my posts don't format quite right w/o a sig.
Why would Google scuttle their future trying to acquire a DOA hardware vendor that is sitting on a mountain of cash? If they want to acquire cash they can have an IPO.
... how the search findings on myself seem to change over time in bias of how they are listed..
But I also see how google is hitting the internet more and more in its search of the web to make its maps...
In your heart, my son. In your heart.
Shop as usual. And avoid panic buying.
Google + Jabber = Goober
Shop as usual. And avoid panic buying.
Google could also change the way the printing industry works overnight with this service - I use the internet for much of my reference needs now, and a few times a year I buy a couple hundred worth of books to add to my reference. The problem is there's a major time investment in locating what new books are actually worth buying - sometimes exceeding the value of the book, almost insignifigant to the effort spent reading and understanding what is in it.
It's not up there any more, but it looked like google was playing around with buying large volumes of IP from publishers then offering it for instant buy in pdf format online. As someone who has a few books in the works and is wondering how to go about trying to make some money from them - a search service and sales avenue managed by google would be amazing.
"Sold!"
..don't panic
OS Guru Rob Pike works at Google.
Rob Pike of plan9 fame.
So I hope that any Google OS would be akin to plan9!
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Google could adapt my solution to Social Security: http://www.newpath4.com/marriage.htm#MakeConsumers Employees
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I know, that Google is the best thing since Veronica. So do you.
I know, that there is no other site like Google. So do you.
But do you realise, that this is getting a bit too... monopolistic? Aren't you afraid of this?
From the Gmail privacy policy:
Ah, good! So I won't receive any spam from John Ashcroft any time soon...
EOM
The source code available at OpenOffice.org does not consist of all of the StarOffice code. Usually, the reason for this is that Sun pays to license third-party code to include in StarOffice that which it does not have permission to make available in OpenOffice.org.
- Certain fonts (esp. Asian language fonts)
- The database component (Adabas D)
- Some templates
- Extensive Clip Art Gallery
- Some sorting functionality (Asian versions)
- Certain file filters
Here is a detailed comparison datasheetIf the GOffice idea ever materializes, will the project be similar to Open Office (OO.org
Within OO.org, bugfixes, hacks, and new functionality can be added by any developer with internet access.
Patches are included once the source code has passed a verification audit by the Open Ofice Developers (OOD).
Beware of the coming monopoly!
No one will be able to contribute source code to the Google Office that will meet the Google Office Developers' (GOD's) standards!
Yes, it's a stupid acronym joke ... it's Monday -- Do you see the correlation?
This post encoded with ROT26. If you can read it, you've violated the DMCA. Handcuffs please, sergeant.
I seriously thought GMail was an April Fool's joke. Then I saw the story on CNN. And this one. I mean, who gives out a gigabyte of storage? Even with bulk pricing, that's still pretty expensive...
I am disrespectful to dirt! Can you see that I am serious?!
September 7th , 1998 : Google opens its doors
Monday April 12th, 2004 : Google indexes 4,285,199,774 web pages
Aprill 1st, 2010 : Google indexes first one billion human lives
Is that it shows just how much more computers can do, and how software and the internet are not anywhere close to dead. Ever since the internet buzz started many software / internet companies have been acting like slime balls. It's always about the story the company has, there marketing, all these things buzzing around just so that you can get spend $100 on a product that cost $0.02.
Take hotmail for example. Trying to sell you 10 cents worth of disk space for $10. That's just a rip off. Goggle comes around, builds some real technology, and sells it much closer to cost. Goggle is one of the first software / internet companies realizing that %100+ markups are unreasonable. If what you're selling is a commodity, you make money on volume.
Google is forcing all of the other players to step up there game. You just can't write a crappy web-app and expect to make any money. You need to make something that actually solves a problem. This is good news for all software developers, because a) We won't be writing boring apps anymore, b) The html experts, and others that have floated along won't be able to keep up.
if Google unveils a new logo that looks anything like the tattoo on Damien's scalp, i'm running for the hills.
"You want a toe? I can get you a toe by three o'clock... with nail polish."
Honestly, it's probably popular because a) it comes pre-installed on almost every Windows computer out there and b) if you have a HotMail or PassPort account, you're already signed up. Lastly, it's got a lot of integrated things from games coming up with a right-click to tons of emoticons. Personally, I'm not altogether fond of it due to its lack of use of italics, etc, but I can see it's appeal for others.
As for the person suggesting Gaim, that's what I use, but I still have to switch to the proprietary clients if I want to do much besides just send messages, especially when my friends don't have up-to-date client versions. Gaim is wonderful for if you don't want 4 icons on your taskbar during chat, but it doesn't really cover all the cases for any particular chat program.
This sig has absolutely no significance and serves only to take up screen space and waste the time of the reader.
Someone had to point it out...
I know, MacOS was born out of FreeBSD, but it is not the same thing, and I don't believe Yahoo! is using it anyway.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Hmm. I wonder if they'd call it GMoney. Now wouldn't that be funny. :-)
Ah am not a crook! (\(-__-)/)
Why do we need another echelon?
why google does not index ftp? anonymous ftp, like the good old ftpsearch.ntnu.no/ was doing, reading each day the ls-lR or ls-lr.Z from the ftp? after web, images, news, catalogs, etc, they should index ftp
"Science will win because it works." - Stephen Hawking
Turn on your TV. For Microsoft and AOL, you see lame commercials about over-hyped products, and news items about anti-trust litigation, failed ventures, and appalling security lapses. For Google you see no serious advertising, but they're always in the news because they're always inventing something. Plus every time a TV show needs to demonstrate the geekiness of a character, they have them use "Google" as a verb.
So yeah, Google is the proverbial 100-pound gorilla. And why not? Somebody has to be. It's the nature of the high-tech marketplace that only the big players really matter. Better the dominant company should be one with a genuine sense of innovation -- and ethics.