Segways Roll Over Chicago
lpangelrob2 writes "It looks like someone in Chicago finally found a use for Dean Kamen's Segways. The Chicago Sun Times is reporting that a three hour tour of Chicago's lakefront will be guided by Segways traveling on Chicago's sidewalks at 5mph. The cost of the tour is $65, and an instructional class and helmet is provided -- just in case."
"ABC7's Jim Wieder reports supervisors aren't happy to hear the suspect got away."
This is confusing on many levels. First, how did a person on a Segway out run the police? Second, how many people do you see on a Segway? Third, why did some one buy a Segway?
Disclaimer: These questions do not require a response as I understand that people on foot can escape police but any witty reponse (see funny) would be appreciated. Thanks-
Why does that sound ominous too me?
just in case.....you happen to be a leader of a free world.
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Washington, DC. You could zip around between the monuments and museums pretty quickly. A lot of the car traffic in that area is really not necessary, and people could get in and out of the area via Metro.
I don't remember the "Chicago Lakefront" screen in Lemmings.
Um. This is news? Segways are being used to give city tours in all sorts of cities from the west coast to the east coast - including Washington DC. What's the next story in the queue - "young people are downloading music online"?
It was a few months ago we had a news story down here about a company giving Segway tours of Sarasota, with full support of City Hall.
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consider the cost of ownership of a ten passenger van versus the cost of ten segways. The segways win compared to the cost of a new van. Moreover the segaways have better access. Still the segways cant be used just anywhere like this.
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How exactly should you refer to a bunch of people on segways?
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to get people to use the Segway's or somesuch. It might work to get people to view the city... wonder if it's funded in part by a tourist council?
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HA! I knew it! i said it before: segways will _only_ be used in niche markets such as tourist gimicks and maybe in business/campus/warehouses, we will not need to re-build cities around them, they won't change everything, they are no big deal.
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Here in Seattle I've also seen the people who collect the change out of parking meters using Segways to move up and down the sidewalks.
I guess Kamen is managing to sell these things, but not as many as was originally hoped.
Minneapolis does this to on their "Magical History Tour"
Travel back in time on a Magical History Tour(TM)! Ride a Segway as you enjoy the history of the Minneapolis Riverfront area from 10,000 BC to present without breaking a sweat. Let the Segway do the work as you cover several miles accompanied by a professional guide
Of course, this one costs $70
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...how long until the Mayor falls off of one?
Maybe the last thing America needs is a wheelchair for people who can stand. How about a bicycle? Or some roller blades?
If you feel you need to wear a helmet to ride a device that travels at 5 mph at ground level, then you are something which starts with "p", ends with "y" and can also mean "cat."
Now you can tour Chicago while looking like an idiot.
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They have been in Chicago for awhile... I have seen parking meter cops riding them around the loop for the last month or so.
I see Segways here all the time in Nice, France, doing tours of the Promenade d'Anglais. Quite funny watching people drifting past dressed in a helmet and green bicycle jacket, though they appear to be having great fun. Might give it a go myself one day.
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We have been renting the Segway HT for 6 months now in the La Jolla / San Diego area... We also provide training and a helmet to all riders and to date have not had a single incident.
It is interesting though the reaction we get from the disabled community. While the majority of people who encounter the units see them as a marvel, the Disabled community is split in their view of the units.
Those with minor to severe mobility issues LOVE the units. They see them as a viable alternative to a wheelchair and a way to increase their mobility.
However, those who are confined to a chair, and those who are blind and deaf are strongly opposed to the units being on the sidewalks.
They are afraid that they will be hit by the units and see them as a danger, even though NOONE, in this area at least, has been hit by the units.
To further increase their safety, we also limit the units to 6 miles per hour.
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Be painting Segways Yellow- and leaving them around town for just anybody to use who wants to look stupid, just like the Yellow Bike Project
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How about you beef them up on the front and use them as part of some humn a bowling ball device. Maybe protect the driver in some sort of giant plastic hasmter wheel and then have the contestants drive into 10 ft (around 3+ meter) heigh pins. Make a couple of the pins exploding and you got a nice spring break event. Of course as the SF hit and run article shows, who needs pins when you got people.
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Surely anything requiring a helmet for safety should not be allowed on sidewalks.
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I know of someone who actually tried the Segway out, and judging by his usually calm personality, the machine was quite an experience for him.
They have got to let more people try this thing one way or another. Otherwise it'll just become urban legendware.
There was a bizarre hit and run that took place in San Francisco on Tuesday between a 3-year-old girl and a Segway.
Three-year-old Ruby Bleskacek sustained cuts, bruises and a nasty bump on her head.
Will they be provideing helmets and pads for all the peds that arn't rideing the Segways?
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So, a three year-old girl was hurt. While that truly is sad, I'm waiting for the first pedestrian fatality attributed to a Seqway.
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For a while now, you have been able to get a Segway tour of Walt Disney World's Epcot theme park. They weren't available the last time the family went to WDW, but next time we're going to give this a try.
or better yet, ride a bicycle, McDonalds, motorized scooters, maybe motorized shoes next, let's get some exercise people. I know some people need assistance, but I'm tired of seeng 5 year olds on motorized vehicles, DAMN.
I don't think so... I live in Salt Lake City - hardly known for being progressive or open minded - and this link can show that we've had this going on for the last 10 months or so: I see these people every evening as I ride my $300 mountain bike home... It's a lot cheaper than the Segway, but the cool factor definately ain't there....
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They've had Seqway tours of Sarasota, Florida, for quite a while now.
:)
And yes, a line of turistas on Segways looks just as idiotic as you're imagining it does. See?
Even better, Epcot just started 2 hour tours.
$80 for 2 hours around Epcot, a lot better than Chicago thats for sure, travel all the best countries in the world on a Segway! Reservations needed.
I'm going in a weekend or two.
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I am so sick of this Segway crap. What we fat-ass Americans need is a good bicycle. God forbid we should get the tiniest bit of exercise. A good-quality bicycle is about 1/10 of the cost of the Segway, is much more reliable, lasts longer, goes faster, looks cooler, doesn't need charging, burns calories, etc. Rant ends here.
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Couldn't the police just come from the opposite direction with 2 Segways with a cable between them and trip up the offending Segway? It works on Imperial Walkers!
Happens in Minneapolis too, and they have a cool URL:
http://www.humanonastick.com/
Its hard enough to bicycle along the lake while people that don't follow normal riding rules don't know how to not ride down the middle of the sidewalk or swerve or ride on the wrong side. Now you'll have to share traffic with segways that will crowd the sidewalk even more? The drivers will probably act like suv drivers and think that they have the right and only way.
I'm still waiting for the IBOT to show up.
Here, here! The worst are those tourist 4-passenger bikes, the SUVs of the bicycle world, that families can rent at Navy Pier, travel along at about 3 miles an hour, and take up both directions of the bike lane.
Better not ride them south past McCormick Place, or they will find people that will quickly dismount them from the device and then beat the crap out of them for looking so dorky.
I can't wait until Chicagoans set up Segway jousting at Navy Pier. It's just a matter of time.
So they are changing the world! One....little...corner of it...at....a...time.... I'm glad to see it's lived up to its hype. **yawn**
I mean if our brilliant president gets hurt by these things, they have to be dangerous right? I mean jeez, travelling 5 mph at one foot off the ground. Using those segways are almost as dangerous as JOGGING.
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... a three hour tour ...
Why did I get flashbacks of Gilligan's Island when I saw that phrase? Hmmm...
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
a tale of a fateful day.
That started from Chicago's port,
aboard this here Segway.
The tour guide was way up front,
the crowd was brave and sure.
Five tourists set off that day,
for a three hour tour, a three hour tour
The weather started getting rough,
the Segways all were tossed.
If not for the courage of the fearless bunch,
the tour would be lost; the tour would be lost.
The Segways took ground on the shore of this uncharted desert isle,
with Gilligan, the guide too,
the Millionaire, and his Wife,
the Movie Star, the Professor and Mary Ann,
here on Lake Michigan's Isle.
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IMO it is a very expensive bicycle, albeit very nice, well built, etc.
According to this, max segway speed is about 12.5 mph (20 km/h). Sidewalk speed is about 8 mph (12.9 km/h).
On my blades, my last trip on even ground was about 18.2km/h. That puts the segway at a little over me when maxed, but probably fairly under at sidewalk speed. I'm sure I'm not the fastest blader around...
The point being, the safety issues with the segway aren't so much centric to speed as they probably are to weight and carelessness. The added weight of the machine could be somewhat of a danger, but only when you've got a careless driver... which makes a segway not much more dangerous than a nut on rollerblades.
"The man fled the scene on his Segway. Police think he lives in the neighborhood. " Wow, I would have figured he rode his segway from a different city.
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I do believe that it's in standard ratio
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I would not characterize it as "a lot". I ride my bicycle on city streets and the lakefront daily, and though I see bicycle cops all the time I have yet to see a Segway.
I'm pretty sure I saw a spot on the news that harford PD was allocated a handful of these and some of the streewalking, er.. foot patrol cops were trying these out...
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THE COPS HERE ARE FAT. It is pretty easy to get away from the often coked-up hick-piggies.
"Police say this could be the Bay Area's first injury accident by a Segway, known as a high-tech people mower."
why do all the girl segways have a sack on the front of them and the boys segways dont. Isnt this backwards?
Come on! That this is the right place for the just in case link!
Look folks, little kids fall down.
They fall down when people walk into them. They fall when dogs bump them. Dozens have probably fallen down in the last year alone due to bicyclists and roller bladers on the sidewalks. They're walking disaster areas -- I don't think it's the Segway's fault!
would point to Bush falling off of one in Kennebunk.
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This perpetrator sounds like the classic 20something gadget-phile guy who knows nothing about children. He blames a 3-year-old for suddenly changing direction??!!
Of course, SF is -- for various reasons like expense and convenience -- relatively empty of children, so the lack of experience at least is predictable. I suppose there are a lot of equivalents to this guy around.
I guess I'm a little late to this conversation, but just wanted to mention that I've seen these tours already happening. I was downtown, at Columbus and Monroe, on May 15th and saw a group of people on Segways wearing helmets. I overheard one of them telling the group what route they were going to take to complete their tour.
It'll be interesting to see how this affects pedestrian traffic downtown. Shouldn't be too bad as long as they stay close to the lakes and parks; I can't imagine how they'd get around in the Loop without creating huge pedstrian traffic delays.
I've also seen some cops using them. Gives me an ominous feeling when I see that and recall Steve Jobs's comment: "people will build cities around this thing."
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Just within the last month I saw Segways in two places that made sense. One was at Old Port of Montreal beside Vieux ("Old") Montreal through Source Segway Canada. My girlfriend and I took the quick, CDN $20 orientation, and it was fun. This outfit also rents out the units, though they are priced higher than the Chicago lakeside outfit's guided tour, at USD $110.95 for three hours of rental. That's even more expensive than Gyro Glide Rentals in San Diego, where a 3 hour rental comes out to USD $89.85. When we were there, they had a full class of people viewing an orientation video for their 1 hour rental. The Old Montreal area is not what I would say is ideal for first time Segway users, but I could easily see experienced users navigating around easily.
Chicago O'Hare airport's police also use Segways now, apparently purchased back around the beginning of the year. Saw one zip by really fast the other week, easily at a good running pace. Man, for those incredibly long hikes in DFW airport in the American Airlines terminals to catch a connection, I would easily pay USD $5, even USD $10, just to flash a card proving I've taken an orientation course and jump on a Segway for a couple minutes instead of running for 10 minutes to that gate that is in the opposite direction of that damn tram.
Generally on the Segway tours you are tought that the pedestrian has absolute right of way and you are to stop if anyone looks like they are going to get in front of you. Unlike a bicycle, on a Segway it is no trouble to able along with pedestrian traffic instead of needing to zoom ahead of them.
On the tour I was on it worked very well, even with 10 of us winding in a line through a very crowded Epcot. We just went very slowy and occasionally stopped as someone walked in front of us. It does help that the devices can be limited to 6mph, as people that were not used to them could get going too fast without even noticing.
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Sure it looks like you are just standing there. But remember the Segway is using cues from your body to determine if it should move forward, back, or slow down... so you are actually spending a lot of time readjusting balance in ways you're not accustomed to, and after a few hours your legs can get fairly tired. It's not like being in a car whene the experinece is mostly passive as far as your muscles go.
Heck, even just standing up for a long time without balancing in different ways is more than most people do!
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Are you sure the manufacturer didn't lobby hard for this legal redefinition of pedestrian? A wheeled vehice is still much LESS controllable that plain old legs and feet, which is why they are not actually or practically called "pedestrian".
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at the beginning of the twentieth century, a lot of people were concerned about the accidents that could occur from automobiles. the cost of accidents were eventually considered to be a reasonable risk considering the convenience that they give.
It's not just in Chicago. Disney is providing a guided tour during their Food and Wine festival at the Epcot park using the segways. It starts this fall.
... helmet is provided -- just in case.
After reading link about segway accident, I realized
that helmets should be provided also to pedestrian, not just drivers.
Everyone who makes fun on Segways might should remember that bicyclists were also considered stupid-looking by most people when they first came out. Not that I think the Segway looks good, but everything's not about how you look.
These guys http://www.parissegwaytours.com/ (aka Mike's bike tours) have been doing this in Paris for a year. The tour is in the 70 euro vs. 15 for the bike tour.
But only a couple of times and always downtown. Its seems more of a prestige thing for the city than anything else. I've also seen the Chicago PD Hummer parked at an event. Makes me wonder how better this money could be spent. I guess there's really nothing wrong with a few prestige items, but a troop of segways is really pushing it.
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My only problem would be figuring out how to spend all the money I'd have left over...
As VP of SEG America (www.segamerica.org) and long-time owner of a Segway HT, I can say that I'm very happy that Chicago has this tour group. It's been one week short of two years since the first Segway HT sighting.
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The HT is perfect in any city. I have been an owner for almost 19 months and have given over 1200 demos without one singe mishap.
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There is nothing more annoying than a fruit booter taking up the full width of the lake trail. I hope these groups don't block traffic quite as much.
It all depends on the exact geography of course, but I think that after two weeks of practice, the hills would cease to be a problem.
I don't think so. I know guys who bike 40 miles a day (not that uncommon in Colorado) and for most of the hills between my house and work, you are not going to be going much better than walking speed up them even with a lot of conditioning. I can tell because I pass them every day in my car and I have never seen any of them going above a crawl.
If the shower is a consequence of having sweated on the trip, then Segways can share that problem. Automobiles can turn the air conditioning up to frosty levels, but of course Segways and bikes can't do this. They'll both have you exposed to hot sunlight for about the same length of time. Of course, the bike also involves some physical extertion, but I think in the summertime you'd sweat regardless.
In Houston I would agree with you. But in any dry climate it's pretty easy to be outside even at 90 degrees or more for a long time and not really sweat at all. As long as you had a hat and some water things would be good (and for commuting the temperatures would be a lot lower when traveling).
Another point I neglected to mention is that bicycles and automobiles have a wheel diameter greater than twice that of a Segway. This becomes important when you get off of neat sidewalks and onto real roads, which can become highly non-smooth, especially at the edges. A thin bike wheel can navigate precisely around the edges of obstacles/potholes, which a Segway could not avoid without swinging way out into automotive traffic.
On the Segway you would simply ride over whatever it was, this to me is actually a weakness of the bicycle in that it's very prone to problems from the smallest of debris. A Segway has a huge amount of tourque as in very stable, you can just about go up over a curb on one. I actually wuld feel a lot more confident on a Segway near traffic than a bike, and I've biked quite a lot in the past. I know I could comfortably use the segway on rocky shoulders where nobody with a road bike is willing to go.
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Here in the capital of the free world we have tours using another electrically powered personal transportation device ... the Rascal!
http://www.cityscootertours.com/welcome.htm
Try that one on for size. Personally I even thought about taking a tour, just for the fun of it, even though I grew up here and live in the city.
At least the Rascal is kind of ironically cool, like a guayaberra shirt or bellbottom pants.
Segway is just dorky. Not cool dorky, but lame dorky. Partly because the only people who buy it are old guys too lazy to walk with 5 grand to drop on something so unnecessary.
...would that be called a segfault?
While I was competing at the 2004 ISEF in Portland, OR this year, I found several of the convention center staff using segways. So, this is another case where segways are in use.
Accidents and lawsuits were already mentioned, and anyone who pays for the tour definitely expects some level of safety.
I've personally rented mountain bikes and snowshoes at Mt. Tremblant (in different seasons, of course), and was aware that I might hurt myself doing so. And probably signed a waiver to that effect. This could easily be similar....it's a CHOICE.
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I live in Chicago, and the lakefront path in the summertime is already overcrowded. Does the city really need quite possibly obese people who don't know how to ride a Segway zipping up and down the lakefront? Generally, they need to reengineer the paths to deal with the different kinds of traffic. I stay away from the lakefront at busy times ever since I was riding my bike (going around 25mph in the clear) and another cyclist decided, last second, to swing waaaaay out into my lane to ride next to his girlfriend. I ruined a wheel, smashed my nose to shit, and spent the next 9 months in physical therapy to fix my knee.
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The Segway has a lot of torque, and can maintain full speed up even pretty steep slopes.
I was on an tour at Epcot and we had to go over bridges and ramps and such. We even went over one bridge that was very curved, like a large speed-bump - it easily climbed that and at the start that was a pretty steep incline.
I agree with you about the 10 mile trip though. I think five miles is the best range for the Segway, anything else and the car starts looking much better timewise.
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Absolute crap. Assume you are going 12 mph. To stop within one foot, that means you are travelling an average of 6 mph for one foot, which means you are able to stop in 0.114 seconds (1 foot / 6 mph). To decelerate from 12 mph to 0 in
What are your tires made of, superglue?
In addition to having tires made of unobtanium, you'd have to lean your segway back almost horizontally to avoid going over the front. It's simple physics - on a bicycle, in order to avoid flipping over the handle bars, your center of mass must be behind the axle of the front wheel. As you decelerate, the line that defines "behind" tilts backwards. At 1 g deceleration, that line is tilted at 45 degrees.
On a segway, your center of mass must always be exactly above the axle of the wheels. When decelerating, the line that defines exactly above tilts backwards in exactly the same manner. You cannot possibly stop a segway as fast as an experienced cyclist can stop a bicycle.
This is also why those little scooter things with the tiny wheels can't stop quickly - the front axle is so low that you are almost guaranteed to go over if you had front brakes. The solution they use is to give you only a rear brake, meaning you are at a huge braking disadvantage.
I'm not saying the segway is unsafe, just that your claims are completely unbelievable on their face.
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You don't get to ride anymore if you start messing with pedestrians or taking risks - it was emphasized again and again how any mstreatment and that persons ride was over.
I know you can't imagine it, but riding the Segway was way more fun than any temporary enjoyment you might get out of charging people on the device. So everyone was careful, and very polite to those around them on foot. Disney is letting groups of ten or so wander through the middle of a crowded park - and Disney does NOT take risks with people.
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12mph is 17.6ft/sec.
To stop in 1 foot, you'd have to stop in rougly 1/10th of second.
You'd thus be decelerating at 176ft/sec/sec. 1G is 22 feet/sec/sec. this is thus 8G.
To stop at a rate of 8G, while in a state of balance (which the Segway always is in), you'd have to lean back until the tangent of your angle with the ground is 1/8. That's 7.12 degrees. You'd have to lay almost flat.
If you leaned back at a mere 45 degrees, you'd only slow at 22 feet/sec/sec. It would take you 8 seconds to stop, and you'd have traveled far over 10 feet.
The tires are made of a very sticky compound. While a foot is perhaps overly optimistic, I don't think it's too far off. They way you slow down is to lean back, so you naturally are maintaining balance anyway. You do not have to be EXACTLY above the center of the wheels unless you wish to stand perfectly still, as the Segway counteracts your balance being over the center (yes this part works really, really well). You can lean way back on the thing when stopping.
After riding one I really am pretty sure I could stop a lot faster, and safer, than on a bike. It just really is way more maneverable and comfortable and steady.
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The thing is that the Segway really is as controllable as walking, you just hvae to be mindful you are a bit wider than normal (if you aren't very wide to start with) Other than that it's super easy to hold it still or to make precise turns or move ultra slowly.
I didn't believee it either until I rode one for a few hours. They are capabile of quite a bit more control than most people around me in crowds usually demonstrate.
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Stop at 4G, you'd have to tilt back to 75 degrees from vertical. Are you leaning that far back? My guess is you aren't getting back past 45 degrees from vertical.
If you do do that, given that you are 6 feet tall on the thing, you realize you now stand a good chance of cold-cocking anyone who was in an area extending 4 feet behind you? Did you look there first?
Even slowing, it's gonna be 10 feet.
Not less than a foot.
The math really isn't that hard.
To stop from 12mph in 0.5 second, you'd have to decelerate at 35.2 ft/second/second. To do so, you'd have to lean the unit back until the tangent of the angle from the ground is 0.5. That's 27 degrees from the ground, 63 degrees from vertical.
Do you really think you leaned the unit back that far in this mpg? Take a look.
It appears to me that it takes more than 0.5 second, and you are doing more than 1mph at the end. Count one-thousand while watching that video at th end, did you move less than 1.5 feet or more?
Most importantly, the stop takes many feet.
Can't you people spell?
When I heard about the guy in Spokane, Washington renting Segways out for $20 an hour I wondered about doing the same down at Navy Pier in Chicago. That was almost two years ago. If only I had the connections and a little venture capital back then...
I read the article, and really wanted to go to Chicago and take a tour. However, the website appeared to say that the chicago tour wasn't up yet, so after some googling, I found that you could tour old montreal with a segway! Yeehaw!
It's here - http://www.segcanada.com/index.html - I know I'll be signing up for Canada Day weekend.
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In Paris:
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http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/200
In London:
http://www.segways.co.uk/segway_tour.htm
that the "just in case" would link to this
Fat clueless tourists rolling over regular folks.
That's gonna shine up the image of Segways just great.
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No,and neither can the people who make the "So-gay".
Perhaps some 733t d00d could integrate a GPS system with the segway and the beer scooter could move from myth to reality.
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