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A GMail-based blog With 1000 MB of entries
Jean-Luc R. writes "Via mediaTIC blog. Gallina is a GMail blog tool created by Jonathan Hernandez that uses GMail messages as "entries" (so 1000 MB of entries!!), replies to conversations are the "entry comments", uses Libgmailer (gmail-lite project) to connect to GMail. It uses XML/XSLT and by the way it's a GPL software.
You can download it there.
See the Gallina Demo Blog as for an example."
people are making so much use of gmail for different things
i wonder when ill be able to run off a remote OS installed on a gmail account
Google was pissed at third-party tools which check emails. Now I wonder what Google is going to think of a program or script which uses the Gmail email directory as a sort of web-hosting deal. I'm not too optimistic about Google's response. :-(
I am defenseless. Use your button. Mod me down with all of your hatred.
from the just because you can doesn't mean you're allowed dept. http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/terms_of_use.ht ml
My other car is a slashdot UID.
C'mon folks, you're not trying hard enough. Give us a GMail-based web-server and I might start being impressed. And not just plain HTML, that's too easy, I want Javascript and CSS 2 support at least!
For those real hackers out there, I also need GMail-based p2p, IM, PVR and espresso-machine.
How are they getting past the new gmail authentication?
Many of Google's other functions, like the search, they openly published interfaces to via web services and such. They explicitly disallow in the GMail TOS using web-fetching "screen scrapers" like this thing uses, but I'd imagine their main objection would be not so much the loss of control as that they don't want to be locked into a specific set of HTML-- if they significantly change their page layouts then any program which fetches and reprocesses GMail web pages will break.
But this bloggy thing is a very cool feature and Google might well publish a public web-services interface to GMail as well to allow things like this to happen before the end.
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Can I now mount my blog using gmailfs?
;-D)but a blog????
Seriously, this is getting silly. It's supposed to be an email system and it's going to be financed by google targeting ads specificly to their users (based on their emails, but who cares about privacy anyway?), so I don't think google will let these things survive.
Now I could understand if someone developed a technique that allowed for bigger attachments (pr0n anyone?
I just hope all these "smart" apps. wont force Google to reduce the greatness of Gmail. Because Gmail is great.
This is not an automated signature. I type this in to the bottom of every message.
It's a classic marketing device - the "ha, ha, you can't have it!" technique... Builds up a huge expectation momentum, provided you have the resources, and Google certainly does.
What, Google create an free, optional service that you aren't personally interested in? How dare they?
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Gmail is invitation only because it is in beta and they want to scale up their size slowly. When it is completed, it will be open to everyone. And good luck not using Google; a lot of other search engines use Google indirectly.
Cheers,
Erick
http://www.busyweather.com/
It won't be long til google flips out, and changes their protacols again, they are so paranoid about 3rd parties using their storage for other means.
That's because Gmail is currently in BETA. They want to test it with a lot of accounts, but they still want to control the number of accounts so their system doesn't get overloaded before it's ready.
Having an invitation system seems a good way of getting a good number of test accounts.
I suggest you read the FAQ as it talks about this and POP access etc.
From what I remember they are working on allowing you to access it all via POP. It's BETA, what do you expect? You can't expect them to give an account to everyone who wants one, i think a lot of what they're doing is trying to slowly roll it out so they can test scaling and such while they do the testing of the interface and stuff. by slowly rolling it out they get an idea of just how the 1000 megabytes of space grow from user to user and can try to balance things better.
As mentioned already it seems they do it to create a bit of hype. Is the hype all it's cracked up to be? Eh, not really but it DOES work really well and I use gmail over yahoo now for my email, it also makes organizing my mail a hell of a lot easier in terms of mailing lists and such (that's really all i use it for, all my normal mail goes through my websites email addresses).
You just need to calm down and chill, if you want a gmail account ask and i'll gladly give you one of my invitations.
Kyle
http://www.unlogikal.net/
I can invite you if you want :)
You're just mad because no one invited you. =)
Dude, its in BETA. Its not ment to be for everyone yet. Its still in testing.
Also, how else do you think they will finance it? 1gb of email with no Ad's? Maybe they will release POP3, but with inserted ads, who knows.
Hotmail has ad's - but no one goes mad about that - surely you don't think those ads are not targeted???
Is it a boat?
The beta group must be huge by now as invitations are handed out to everyone regularly as it looks like currently.
I'm a bit concerned that everyone seems to want to find a way to fill up their Gigabyte on Gmail. If storage becomes the main feature of Gmail, people will eventually open up 500 accounts and built a Gmail array for their file storage. This will force Google to lock down their application, and those of us using it for EMAIL will suffer.
If you want a gmail invite you just have to search on Google. Google is giving invitations away a lot more now to current subscribers. Visit my website, I have 5 gmail invites left to give. And I'm giving them away for free, no strings attached. Gmail is still in beta too, so that's probably why it's currently invitation only. Not sure if they have plans to make it open to all though.
Btw, POP access is currently in the works, though IMAP would indeed be nice. I'll make a suggestion.
how is it not fair? they dont' give a rip who gets an account, why should they?
again i'll ask, do you want an account? i'll give you an invite as soon as you send me a email address to send it to.
Kyle
http://www.unlogikal.net/
The priveleged? I have no connection to anyone important in the whole world and I have a Gmail account. It really does end up getting spread around, albeit slowly.
... so now we'll have spam blog entries!
You don't think enough... therefore you better not be!
I thought Google already provided a free blogging service?
ahh pick n choose huh, go figure. :)
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get a fucking gf
or leave your mothers basement, baby steps
What's next, disallow people who write using a minority language, because Gmail can't attach meaningful ads to those messages?
Seems to me like Gmail should charge for the account, charge for the bandwidth, and pay you back each time you buy a product through one of their ads.
If they except some particular buisness model, why not try to enforce it economically?
Other companies have their operating systems, programs and services tested on their users, I think you might know the one. There's a reason why there's a "send bug report" button now every time IE crashes. Google takes its time to let the service grow with its userbase in case of size and functionality. Which I personally prefer.
But even google with all its servers have limitations. Would love to see gmail grow in kind of uses it could have, but simplicity and speed are some of its strengths that it could lose if it is abused.
I said the same thing myself until I used it. It is not the greatest thing to ever happen to email, but it is a great Web-Baseed email solution. I have been using it for over 3 weeks now and while there is a ton of stuff that needs to be addressed, the system is very stable. If you want one of the precious invites, email me and I will invite you to test it out. Don't knock it till you try it. jasonsneedNO@SPAMgmail.com
For me it's rather logical that ppl try to use this service as much as they can - including applications like this blogger.
But on the other hand google will not like this because it pretty much abuses their service and causes way more costs than planned.
It's always the same game:
1. company offers something
2. user finds a way to use this for something not intended by company
3. company complains about it/ sues the user/ develops a way to block the user
At the end it will be annoying for both sides.
> if you want a gmail account ask and i'll gladly give you one of my invitations.
I know you weren't talking to me, but -- could I have an invitation, please?
If not, has anyone else got any spare invitations?
Thanks,
Craig (craig AT craigmarshall.org)
Wow, what small nation do you have stuck up your ass?
Not to be a jerk, 1,000 MB is not actually a gigabyte. A gigabyte is /actually/ something like 1,073,741,824 bytes, which is roughly 1,073MB.
It's not just unwarranted pretension.
I think the term you're looking for is "gobibyte."
Unless, of course, you're in other parts of the world. Then it's 1.000, and the comma is the decimal separator. When addressing an international audience, it's best to just leave the commas out.
Technically, it's not a gigabyte; one gigabyte is 1024MB. And commas are deprecated. =P
1000MB may sound like a lot but at current hard drive pricing that is only about a half dollar if you buy a 100GB drive. Why do people go to so much trouble to redirect GMail for other uses? If people do things that make their advertising less valuable then they will strike hard on everybody and that only hurts us normal users if they make it harder to login or use as an email service.
...so why would they allow a third-party kludge to run a web log?
grown up land? try the US, the world would use 1 000
A gigabyte (GB) is 1000 MB.
A gibibyte (GiB) is 1073.741824 MB.
A gibibyte (GiB) is 1024 MiB.
Hope that helps.
"Then it's 1.000, and the comma is the decimal separator."
Savages. I bet they're not even circumcised.
Anyone who needs a gig of space to write down what is on his mind has a bigger problem than finding space online.
MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. - September 6, 2004 - Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) announced today that they are discontinuing the popular beta trial of their "Gmail" personal e-mail service. "When we realized that Slashdot user thammond had pledged not to use the service, we decided there was no point in continuing," said Larry Page, Co-Founder & President, Products. While the service had appeared to be gaining momentum as an alternative to other free e-mail services, thammond's pledge, announced today on the popular technology news site Slashdot, made it clear to company management that there was no future in the offering. Existing users of the service will be notified early this week and Google assured concerned shareholders that "future innovations will be submitted to thammond for approval prior to release in the future."
What a specious argument! There is quite a big difference between how Google wants to use their service and having their services/storage essentially hijacked for other purposes. It is a mail system. It they want a blogger than they will come out with one. And, yes, probably put ads on it. Or did you want to pay for it yourself?
Cheers,
Erick
http://www.busyweather.com/
So now I have 1gb of online, searchable mp3's.
Email. Blogs. Mountable drives. And all built on GMail. I'd be quite concerned about becoming too dependent on the good graces of a third party for maintaining my data. I recall the number of people who got caught flat-footed when free email services and photo hosting went belly-up with little or no notice. Not to mention putting potentially sensitive material in a convenient place for hackers to target, or law enforcement or aggrieved spouses to subpoena.
Hey, Linux Hippie! Yeah, you with halitosis and awful hair cut! FUCK YOU!!!! Nobody gives a shit that you can't play Doom 3 on your Linux box. Install a proper operating system, asshat!
But it does have some revolutionary features to it - they've tried to change the way you store and manage your email. They've replaced folders with labels, archiving, and threading - not to mention the spam filtering is top notch and the interface is splendid.
If religous zealots don't believe in Evolution, then why are they so worried about bird flu?
Cheers,
Erick
http://www.busyweather.com/
Oh, and here in grown-up land, we also put a comma after the thousands. "1,000" please.
So that's what they told you in school? Silly US kids, believing any shit. In grown-up land people know how to count, so using a comma to say "hey, I've got 3 zeroes here" is redundant.
"1,000" is for lazy bean-counter types that sound hollow when hit between ears. But that's OK, you can be on the first ship escaping from that terrible future catastrophe. We'll be right behind you in the next one. Honest.
You really have no idea how cheap storage is (and is getting) and how much advertisers are willing to pay for googles targeted ads.
"A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
Gibibyte is the name of my cat
So when do the cease and desists start coming in?
The post-IPO google isn't the type of google that would be happy with this kind of thing. (And if you say there are no post IPO pages, just take a look at the recent furor over parodies, and just a couple of days ago, I noticed an image ad for Picasa (TM) on google image search.)
Is that they force us to look at Gmail in many different ways beyond the "Jesus Christ, look at all that space" factor.
When I started using Gmail I really liked the threaded messages feature and the search engine. Having to use labels instead of folders was (and still is) annoying, but I still place more value in the threading of the messages so all is well.
Some of my friends put more value in the fact that they can pretty much forget about their mailboxes getting too big and their PC choking on it. The mailbox here can be almost a gig and all your PC sees is just a web page.
Some friends also discovered that it is a great way to store memos, since is is very easy to pull them back between the labels and the search engine. I liked the idea so much that I sent myself every shareware license and CD key I have as separate emails so I can easily pull them.
The blog thing will probably break by the time it hits production, but it tells us (and Google too) that Gmail is so versatile that you can do all these crazy things with it.
Now Google can look at it and go uhm, maybe this is faster than whatever it is we are doing to store Blogger entries, and it also takes care of the post comments! And since you are already giving people a Gig of space, you can in theory claim that your *hosted* Blogger option is now free and allows you to share your 1GB of Gmail space. Then later plug the whole thing into an Orkut that doesn't suck and also into Google Groups.
Pedro
----
The Insomniac Coder
Gigabyte is sometimes interpreted as 1024MB (although technically that's a Gibibyte) so they've done it to prevent confusion ;)
i cant get it to work ... any luck?
GmailFS is still a much cooler hack.
Imagine a bootable linux distro, upon boot asking for your Gmail login info then automatically mounting it as your home directory. Instant linux box wherever you go and have a internet connection.
Fucking cool.
------------------------------ SirPhreak - "It's Thinking..."
Let me know if someone else sent you an invite, if not i'll send you one. I'd rather send them to people who haven't gotten one and since you asked i wouldn't doubt if a lot of people ended up sending you invites :-P send an email to unlogikal@gmail.com with name and such and i'll send an invite
Kyle
http://www.unlogikal.net/
If you want a blog that's associated with Google, you could always just mosey on over to blogger.com. Last I checked, there's no limit with them as to how much storage you get and it's probably a bit easier than getting this running. Yes, this is kinda cool and innovative, but couldn't this creative/technological skill go toward something that everyone would benefit from, like, say, easy sound/3d in Linux?
you sound a little miffed coz you hav'nt got an invite yet and it's messing with your geek self image.... LOL.
Aww, sounds like someone hasn't been invited to the party... ;)
Google just gave me a few invites, I'd be willing to give you one if you think it might help sweeten that sour taste in your mouth.
Funny thing is, I hardly even use my gmail account because I've had my mac.com address so long. What I've done, though, is to use gmail like an email archiving station. Just a simple, "If sender of message is in my address book, forward the message to my gmail address" rule. Requires no interaction at all, I don't even know it's happening but all my "good" email is auto-magically archived.
Blah blah, I ramble. Seriously though, I'll send you an invite if you'd like...
Having an invitation system is also a great way to mine for friendship information. Just graph the invitations, and you will more or less have a who-knows-who graph (since most people hand out their invitations to their friends).
Commas are used to delimit groups of three digits for numbers with more than four digits. But please, don't bereave me, observe a math book.
Stop doing shit like this. Yeah, it's "fun", yeah it's "cool", but it's gonna piss Google off so much that they'll just put more and more limits on the service which piss off the majority to stop the minority.
I don't know about you, but I want to READ MY FUCKING EMAIL with GMail, not use it as some file storage solution, file system, blog client and kitchen sink. Leave it be. Google is generous, they've released APIs and other fun shit to do with their service, and they've been nice enough to let people try their beta service. If I lose that service because morons like fucking with it to store their porn, I will be MAJORLY pissed off.
Don't be so fucking selfish and stick to the friggin' ToS already.
By summer it was all gone...now shesmovedon. --
Seriously, it took me 5 min after I read about gmail to get an account. Have you no friends? There are _millions_ of invites out there.
"A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
Not even that slowly any more, IMO. It's multiplying like a virus. Someone sent me one recently and, upon signing up, I found that I almost instantly had several invites to give away (they appear on your main Gmail page). As soon as I sent out a couple, the number was replenished. At this point, I can't even find many friends who need them any more. I think it's finally hitting critical mass such that those who really want one can find one easily and the cache of nerd-exclusivity is now almost completely gone. Yes, its a good service and people will want it on its own merits, but the ever special "I have it and you don't" factor is running its course. I reckon that was part of the marketing strategy--to get "thought leaders" to adopt and brag about it. Well done, Google.
You really have no idea how cheap storage is (and is getting) and how much advertisers are willing to pay for googles targeted ads.
The question is not the storage, I would think, as much as the bandwidth. GMail's business model does not include the idea of, say, 10k people accessing a single gmail account to view content, which may or may not include Google's adverts.
Send lawyers, guns, and money. Dad, get me out of this.
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That's because Gmail is currently in BETA. They want to test it with a lot of accounts, but they still want to control the number of accounts so their system doesn't get overloaded before it's ready.
... the answer was "no". If they hadn't used this strategy, if I used it at all I probably would have signed up just to see how it looked, then forgotten I ever made the account. Now, I would have to commit myself to getting "invited", then once signed up I would have invite codes myself to give away.
It's part of a MARKETING STRATEGY (and a particularly brilliant one, I might add) not because of any technical requirements. They probably have tens of millions of accounts by now.
Marketing 101: If you make something artificially scarce, people will want it more.
Moreover, the invite system gives them a ton of free advertising -- people offering their friends signup codes. I've constantly seen bloggers and slashdot posters offering them up and in part they're just doing google's advertising for free.
I myself found myself wanting one, which I realized was just for these reasons. Then I asked myself, am I at all unsatisfied with my current email?
This is, needless to say, brilliant marketing from google and it amazes me that this company's effectiveness can permeate so many levels of its operation, even as it continues to expand in all directions.
Supposedly you can store 1024MB of email, just that somewhere after 1000MB email sending gets disabled.
They could have chosen beta submissions by random. But they gave 'passes' to the priveleged few to pass around. That is NOT FAIR beta or not.
"Wah! Mommy, Johnny won't let me join his club!"
OK, sorry for being obnoxious. But Google has absolutely no obligation to be "fair" about who they allow to use their private service.
The first invites were given only to Blogger users, since they were 1) already using a Google service, 2) known to be tech-savvy, and 3) a highly influential group of people. A random lottery would have given Google a random smattering of grandmothers, computer newbies, middle-management execs, and twelve-year-olds. Not exactly a strong audience for testing or marketing purposes.
Your argument reminds me of the people who complain when they don't get into beta tests for video games. It all boils down to sour grapes.
On the other hand, by now the invites have made it to everyone you could imagine. If you want one, all you need to do is ask around. I'm sitting on three extra invites myself, because literally everyone I know already has a GMail account (or else can't be trusted with a two-button mouse).
Oops--forgot to untick "anonymous." I've got 6 at the moment and I'd be happy to give 'em out to slashdotters. If you don't hear from me, then I ran out. I need a name and an e-mail address.
"...all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness..." yada yada
is a gmail block device driver. That would be neat. Thank you for listening to an old uncle.
Oh, sure, let's use a blogging script which uses a webmail service as its database. It can fetch data from this service by internally connecting to the web site, parsing the HTML, and pulling out the relevant data.
Uh.
Seriously, people, install a fucking SQL server. Not only is this going to be extremely extremely inefficient for you, but you are basically taking a nice service provided to you free by a nice company and exploiting the hell out of it. I am quite certain that if this thing gets a lot of use, Google will implement measures to break it. And I'm guessing Slashdot will whine when that happens, and I will be disgusted.
Really... When your girlfriend offers you a blow job do you forcefully ram your dick down her throat until she vomits? Why on Earth would you do this to Google?
I don't know how 'privileged' I am, but as soon as I send out my invites I get more, so they are ramping up the beta. I get more than I can give to people I know. If you want one, I have 11 to give away right now. Let me know.
"'Scuse me, salesdroid, can this mobo boot off a GMail drive?"
The question is not the storage, I would think, as much as the bandwidth. GMail's business model does not include the idea of, say, 10k people accessing a single gmail account to view content, which may or may not include Google's adverts.
Um, Google own Blogger.com who already do this and have been doing it for years. Furthermore I think any Gmail bandwidth will be dwarfed by the Google search engine bandwidth.
Redundant Array of Inexpensive Google Accounts.
google RAID.
any takers for this newly-starting project?
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"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
JESUS people, it's a goddamn EMAIL SERVICE.
What are you all DOING?! You're out of your Minds!
*ala William Shatner*
HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER EVEN KISSED A GIRL?!
"Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
Oh my god, heh, I just told myself the answer for this question of why give out invites to current users and not just have a beta signup or something.
So they can get to everybody. An invite isn't something you sign up for, it is something given to you, current users would give it to their close friends and relatives, who are prolly not technical users and know nothing about current tech news and development of something as bland as a new email service, but thus letting people know of how good it is, and making sure the word spreads out that much farther. wow, no wonder google mostly or only employs phd's...
smart aren't they? also, google is still free, and I saw many people say they would be completely willing to pay for it on slashdot just because it is pretty much better than any other search engine that is currently available, and it is so damn fast. But Google doesn't need to slow down their conquest of the internet market, by doing something like making their services fee-based, at least not yet. First something as unimportant as a search engine. then an email service. next an efficient and elegant messenger with most features you need and enough userbase from gmail and google to make it the most popular messenger in the world. then a web browser with all these features integrated into a slick and resource efficient application, along with it a security package guarding your internet experience.
then an operating system.
then manufacturing it's own line of computers. most common type at first, but after maybe making it's own type of a portable computer system.
sounds like Apple, in the way that it is so popular right now with the iPods, but only iPods, and the way their products are so elegant and clean and efficient. ut much less expensive than Apple, currently at least.
Along the way probably Google will make a bad decision or in one of the processes I described something better than a Google's product would be released and would gain popularity and the plan would fall through. but Google probably isn't stupid enough to create a plan that isn't fault-tolerant. the course of this plan may take 15, maybe 20 years, and then Google will control humanity and make a cluster of human brains integrated with computers to find out the meaning of life?
oh wait, that would be evilI pwn this comment. "The Fine Print" says so.
That was true in the beginning, but do you really know anyone at this point who wants a gmail invite and doesn't have one? Pretty much everyone I know goes around going "anyone want an invite? Anyone?"
:)
Maybe we just have too many friends at Google
They have a blogger. It's called Blogger.
If you click on "Top Comments" over at Fark, the three G-Mail account request threads over the last 3 days have become some of the highest-number-of-comment threads in the history of Fark.. and that's saying quite a bit..
"Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
Here you go (first come first serve):
One!
Two!
Three!
Four!
Five!
After you sign up, your new e-mail address will be shown to whoever clicks on the link you signed up with, FYI. Enjoy.
"screen scrapers" are prohibited because they circumvent the content based advertising in Gmail.
duh?
Google will need to start doing this - just stating an abuse policy is not good enough, they will need to start detecting abuse and counteracting, otherwise they will go broke trying to buy enough drives to make the exploiters happy.
It's part of a MARKETING STRATEGY (and a particularly brilliant one, I might add) not because of any technical requirements.
I agree. I have signed up for a gmail account. Not because I want one (I am not using it all that much), but only because it's a scarce thing.
I see nothing all that special about gmail - the only good thing was that it made yahoo increase their storage size & I had not longer had to periodically clean up the account.
the fact that they own Blogger probably gives them some interest in not wanting this :)
Although this may be a little off-topic: I think google should keep Gmail invitation only, as it is doing with orkut. I don't see any downsides, that is unless you refuse to communicate with any other person on the internet. But then why would you be using email?
I think this could turn out to be a serious miscalculation on Google's part. It would be quite trivial to write a web app that front ends Gmail with a virtual file system to which you can upload and download hierarchically structured folders and files. The system could even seamlessly encapsulate more than one account so you could have multiple Gbs of storage available totally free, with huge bandwidth and no maintenance.
I imagine that Google's estimates of required storage assumed some relatively moderate average consumption for each user. This would make it really easy to eat up more space than they expected. This, combined with the fact that they won't get any advertising revenue from accounts using this trick, might make it difficult for them to continue the service.
Peer Pressure
I beleive the international standard is to use a space and not a coma to improve readability if needed.
I hope you dont need a coma to more easily read the figure 1000.
I thought a gibibbyte was a shitload of kills....
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
Now that i have one, i'm going, ok, now what? I already have an e-mail address.
1000 MB != 1 GB
1024 MB == 1 GB
It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
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first come, first serve.
and if you manage to catch one, and feel like saying thanks -
have a look at the ads there...
I'm not necessarily lazy, but I have to say, I'd prefer to use 85,840,734,641,021 over 5840734641021. Especially if I have to quickly add 1000000 to it or transcribe it by hand to some other medium.
Of course, I tend to prefer using tools that help keep me from making mistakes.
I've worked on documents where people have written things like "4,24,120 incidents". It was a great flag to me that something was wrong and I was able to check it with them. If they had simply written 424120, I would never have spotted the error.
Commas might be deprecated and spaces prefered in the world community, but in either case, I think they're helpful in reducing errors.
"Gallina" means hen (in Spanish), and it's also used in the sense that one use, in English, "chicken".
Not true, large parts of the world does use 1,000 with the exception of countries like Denmark, where we use 1.000, just to be different.
thats one of the funniest things I have ever seen on slashdot. thanks for the laugh
Um, Google own Blogger.com who already do this and have been doing it for years. Furthermore I think any Gmail bandwidth will be dwarfed by the Google search engine bandwidth.
Notice I said "GMail's business model", not Google Corp's business model.
Also, if you were the owner,employee, or a manager of blogger.com, would you want your other business entities to be leeching business from other departments?
Google has massive bandwidth, but each bit must be paid for, one way or another. If Google is going to provide me free email, free search, and free blogging, without intrusive advertising or other annoyances, I feel it is not too much for them to ask that I use blogger.com for blogging, gmail.com for email, and google.com for searching.
Google has earned my respect and my business. They are single handedly making the internet a better place every day.
Send lawyers, guns, and money. Dad, get me out of this.
Heh, that archiving idea is actually a pretty clever idea. I never really thought to use an e-mail account like that.
By the way, if you're interested in sending me an invite, I'd surely appreciate it. Let me know, metallic@adelphia.net
Touche :)
Gmail invitation 1
Gmail invitation 2
Gmail invitation 3
Gmail invitation 4
As always: first come, first serve. Enjoy!
That is the worst notation for a number i've ever seen. Suppose I said, "Here is a list of the 5 largest numbers ever to be added by a human: 3 006 004 345 234 123 623 453 543." How the hel could you get anything out of that, the answer is you couldn't . Either use the comma or the period, anything else and its just dumb.
Regards,
Steve
how the hell is this insightful? helpful, yes. insightful, NFW.
Tell you what I'm using gmail for ? ;)
Daily backups for my website are being emailed to my gmail account. Now I won't have to open gmail to check whether they arrived or not, I use rss2email to get RSS feeds, Now I can have gmail RSS feed, r2e'll email them to my primary pop3 enabled mailbox, Done!
I'll know whether the backups are there or not without need to open gmail to check
It's either a gibibyte or a gebibyte. Someone on slashdot will correct me ;)
Commas are used to delimit groups of three digits for numbers with more than four digits. But please, don't bereave me
This is the internet, not the wild west. Nobody's going to bereave you over a minor dispute. Too much effort.
First 6 people to email me get invites darcon at gmail.com
Hey, I *am* pissed that I can't play WoW!
First 5 people to Jabber me get gmail invites. JID: afraz@jabber.killerbees.org.uk.
Don't worry if I'm not there to respond, I'll know in which order the messages came. Don't forget to include your name and e-mail address.
It looks like someone is getting greedy:
6 12 57a-f08e9460d0
3 7f 14d-8031ff00b5
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-997c844f36-8053
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-997c844f36-0482
I suppose it is possible that jrainville@gmail.com and joel.rainville@gmail.com are two different people who just happened to use two different invitations on the same page, but only to a similar extent that it is possible that Jesus Christ and Mohammed have corporealized in Silicon Valley and are at this moment procuring pizza and beer for a party at my place tonight.
I don't see it on those pages. However I signed up for a GMail account a few days ago, and that was definitely one of the clauses of the clickthrough agreement I was presented with at that time. It appears their clickthrough agreement is different from their posted TOS policy? I guess you'd need to find a gmail invite in order to read the clickthrough...
Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
if you want invited email rainspherebomb@gmail.com
See, I have no friends... (really)
Let me see if I understand you all: You're pissed that someone playing around with the underlying tech of gMail is going to cause you the *disaster* of losing your oh-so-vital e-mail!?!?!?
Let's all just agree right now, that anyone worried about their gMail (and thus obviously unable to run their own Internet-accessible mail server) is SO clueless and SO *user-like* that they are NOT to comment on gMail hacks...
Insert the various tired-out cautions here: It's a free service (you didn't think it would last forever did you?); What, you didn't back up your e-mail locally (are you nuts, it's not like you were paying them to...).
This guy is just one of many blurring the whole distinction between file systems/datastores/mailservers/etc. and what in the world is the harm in that? (That's kinda how gMail came about, isn't it?
If you are so worried, go get 10-12 yahoo accounts and don't worry/be happy--I haven't noticed anybody hacking yahoo's webmail service...
mesersmer@gmx.net Thank you
Dumbass.
Google offers a free blogging system, blogger.
Wouldn't suprise me if they linked the two systems at some point.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
Nope...
y te
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/gibib
Jorgie
.... and the spam rolls in .... :P
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how can i argue with a 'anything is dumb and it's just dumb'
i bow down to your superior/inferior ways
I hope that you mean IMAP, given that POP doesn't support the following features which would be essential for fast access to a large (up to 1 GiB) mailbox:
These are the main reasons IMAP is suitable for disconnected access and POP is not. There are other advantages to IMAP, too:
POP has no advantage for the user. For the administrator/developer, it may have a slight advantage in that it's simpler. But these complexities are hidden from the user; it is quite seamless.
i'm doing something similar...
...including my yahoo and hotmail accounts. :)
i've got ALL of my accounts sending a copy to gmail.
nothing like being able to login to one place to check like.. 6 accounts when you're not home.
for a minute there, i lost myself...
First 6 people to email me at rjlynn@gmail.com get gmail invites. Meh.
Uh, they have a blogger already. Blogger.com. The people doing this project are just stupid or something.
Comment of the year
" Pretty much everyone I know goes around going "anyone want an invite? Anyone "
I want one
*sniff*
"You can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
Assuming that he actually gets an invite, he won't need the old one any more.
is that your account could get TOS'd. with hotmail, all you need to do to kill someone's account stone dead with no recourse is to moan about them to the hotmail abuse desk. they don't check anything, they just close the account. i'd imagine google'd be less evil than this, but even so; given the number of gmail accounts there are and will be, can you really expect an impartial personal investigation for each abuse report?
navaja0@yahoo.es
ijampere@yahoo.com
rich@globular dot org
Actually... if you ever look at screenshots where people have tried to max their mailbox it hits 1023MB (and not usually 1024 because hard to get that with big files).