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Mouse May be Replaced by "Nouse"
mteichrob writes "A Canadian inventor has designed a computer mouse steered by movements of the nose and eyelids. The invention, dubbed a "Nouse," is meant to help people with a disability use a computer.
I think this could also be quite useful for the average office lackey like me! As good as my ergonomic mouse/keyboard combo is, less body movement is still a better replacement."
A mouse that can be moved by the nose and eyelids? I think the most obvious question is, "What happens when you sneeze?" I'd hate to accidentally send a reboot command during a sneeze.
I'd also be curious to see how it would affect twitch gaming where quick reflexes with a mouse are paramount.
Hooray for less body movement! Let's give this technology a test drive:
Me: Twitches nose left
Computer: Moves cursor left
Me: Neat! Blinks
Computer: Opens folder
Me: Excellent! Hey, who put all this black pepper in my sandwich? Aaaaachoooo!
Computer: Reformats hard drive
Oh, and the Nouse has already been covered on Slashdot. Come on, a simple Slashdot search of "nouse" turns this one up.
no - really, I just sneezed!
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
...if you sneeze? :-)
Now I can search pr0n with my nose!
What? I like to eat soup while I surf the web.. ya' perv.
;)
"A witty saying proves nothing." ~Voltaire
"d'Oh!" ~Homer
Cheesiest... line... EVER
I could use a vacation.
-- "You can lead a yak to water, but you can't teach an old dog to make a silk purse out of a pig in a poke" - Opus
I can just see it now!
*Wiggle*
*Sniff*
HEADSHOT!
Without a proper flamewar, Anonymous was undecided on what shell to run.
Kinda puts a whole new meaning to closing your eyes when shooting.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Perhaps if your goal is to become as fit as Stephen Hawking, but through lack of exercise rather than disease.
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The porn browsing possibilities seem endless!
Fap fap fap...
Oh wait, that's right - there's that other stuff I do with that hand...
If it's the same one (I couldn't access the CBC report linked to so I googled it) then it's much more than just using your nose and eyelids for a mouse- it's full face tracking software at a subpixel resolution.
Which is a really cool idea- it means that a webcam can replace the mouse.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Great for people with disabilities, but...
But how the hell will we, as IT people, make it look like we are frantically busy without lots of keyboard mashing and mouse piloting?!?!?!
http://www.atarimuseum.com/videogames/consoles/260 0/mindlink.html
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When office politics, job stress, insane deadlines, an IT support from hell drive you insane, you might just well find it impossible to use your nouse due to all the nervous twitching.
... in only few simple steps it can transform into a noose!
That's when a wired mouse is still handy
As good as my ergonomic mouse/keyboard combo is, less body movement is still a better replacement.
I don't know about you, but this seems like it would get very tiring. I mean I can't flare my nostrils all day, the muscles in my nose start to get sore. What about people that have twitches, tics, or whatever you like to call it. Not to mention the sneezes (I know somebody already mentioned it in an earlier thread).
The geek in me does really want to try this though, unless you have a disablility though it's definitely a novelty.
someone thinks they're smarter and more insightful than they actually are
me... I'm an idiot
Anyone besides me read this as "No Use"?
No, the pocket protector and the tape around the nose of the glasses weren't enough... now somebody had to go invent a mouse that involved moving your head in short bursts and blinking a lot.
Yeah, where do I get one?
*Wiggle*
*Sniff*
HEADSHOT!
Or...
*Wiggle*
*Sniff*
*Blink*
Fr1st Ps0t
Yeah, it'll be a hit with the
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Hey, maybe this guy could go work for the Duke Nuke'm Forever developers, at least he gets stuff done. But we'd have to change the name to Duke Nose'm Forever.
This project was under development at Boston College when I was an undergrad. It uses electrodes and a camera to track movements for people who are multiple impairments.
http://www.bc.edu/schools/csom/eagleeyes/
It was set in the future (2000), and the headline in the paper said
Television replaced by Smellevision.
I expect similar results.
Rhymes that keep their secrets will unfold behind the clouds.There upon the rainbow is the answer to a neverending story
That'll also make it more fun when Windows crashes, because I'll have something more cuddly/furry to bang on instead of the keyboard.
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What about a pouse? Kill two birds with one stone.
hi
Somewhere in the world, bathed in the light of a monitor displaying this Slashdot article, someone with their nose resting on their mouse is smiling...
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
or, perhaps it'll be replaced by keyboard
That way we can get atrophy of ALL our muscles instead of just our legs.
When perfected it could bring a whole new meaning to mouselook in FPS. Imagine playing a game where the senery changes when you look, it could be very immersive. On a side note, quite a few gamers already practice moving their heads in reaction to the game. Finally an excuse to cover my lame head movments as I try to dodge those imaginary bullets.
> As good as my ergonomic mouse/keyboard combo is, less body movement is still a better replacement.
Geeks are already socially disabled, do you want them de facto physically disabled as well? I mean, give geeks this technology and they'll be so out of shape that they'll effectively be disabled soon.
You want to know who isn't running Firefox 2.x? They spell it "definately" and "rediculous".
THATS AWEFUL,
what they really need to do
is make a slouchse -
A mouse type device driven by jumping jacks and richard simmons sweating to the oldies exercies.
It would be for the FAT ASS (I know, super sterotype, but they exist, ooohh yes, they exist) computer nerds of the world who really dont need LESS body movement during the day! STOP EATING THAT HO-HO and STOP DRINKING a 2 LITER OF DIET COKE EVERY DAMN DAY, JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS DIET DOEST MAKE IT GOOD FOR YOU!
'nuff said
I made something like this before - You could control things with your lips. I called it "Louse".
:(
It never caught on
Is it just me or does anyone else think that all the head-bobbing and blinking will get pretty old pretty quickly? I can't imagine playing an FPS where to shoot I had to blink... I've always found that I am much more accurate when I keep my eyes open while playing FPS's... Maybe it's just me...
We all understand that this will never replace the mouse and keyboard. Hands are just, well, more dextrous.
But for some disabled it will be a godsend. High spinal cord injuries and other conditions can make it difficult to use or control the hands to the degree required by mouse and keyboard. The ability to use the face will make life a lot easier for these people.
The man who never alters his opinion is like the stagnant water and breeds Reptiles of the Mind -- William Blake
You can't expect the average user to never blink when using a computer. I mean, I wouldn't want to have to click on something every 15 seconds just to keep my eyes from drying out. I guess they could have it only activate with a wink, and then it would only mess up when you got something in your eye. Playing a first person shooter would be kind of hard though...
-You're only as clean as your towel.
Release: Microsoft Windows(TM) has a small issue with the nouse drivers.
Issue: The system appears to crash often Solution: This is not really an issue this is due to the auto memory clean which is designed to fix the memory leaks in Windows and the applications and force the user to reboot once a day
Issue: No I mean *really* often
Solution: This is due to a small problem with the Nouse drivers. The problem is due to Nouse inc. and is not by MS, though we wrote and certified the drivers. The OS accidently thnks that the eye blink to be Crt+Alt+Del. The original intention was Crtl+Alt+Del = left eye half blink, right eye full blink and simultaneous nose left twitch. However a simple fix is available , download this 1GB patch and do not blink your eyes. NO you can not blink you eyes when u run Windows, we mentioned that in the EULA didnt we ?
The government which is strong enough to protect you from everything is strong enough to take everything from you.
Most of the comments are about... using computers while using your hands doing other things like eats and doing stuff.
just thinking vaguely about it, shows it to be a cool technological advancement.
but just think about it, how many people in the past had thought about it. how about the companies who are working on Smart User Interfaces like Apple, HP?
for the time being the fact is that, these meathods of using eyes and noses gives fatigue to our more sensetive organs like eyes instead of hands. Also human hands work far more efficeintly than the currently developed capabilties of motion tracking or voice recogination softwares.
I am hoping to continue using my trackpoint on my thinkpad for few more years until something radical comes!
Whoa! it would be cool playing a shooter with this device. It's like having lazers through your eyes. You look the monster and he's dead... :)))
I'd be like Cyclop in x-men!
As good as my ergonomic mouse/keyboard combo is, less body movement is still a better replacement.
How lazy can you get?
You can find Dmitry (the inventor's) webpage here. Lots of interesting stuff, including some interesting facial recognition and tracking work.
In other news, the beta test of this device met with horrible tragedy when Samantha tried one on and accidentally obliterated three city blocks.
Stop learning! Only you can prevent esoterrorism.
...until you get a bad case of carpal nasal syndrome.
What the article neglects to mention is that this is a variation on the original design, which was an apparatus that allowed you to control the mouse cursor with your penis.
The design was later reconsidered, citing possible issues with users over 60...?
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
Seriously, what kind of problems will people develop controlling their face muscles if they use their facial muscles like this day-in and day-out?
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The GNAA has today broken the media lockout on North Korea's nuclear explosion. With governmental and press agencies everywhere desperately lying to the sheep-like public, the GNAA has had to step forward.
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When working with a Nouse, consider taking a break of 15 minutes every hour or you might experience Nousea that will prevent further work for the next 24 hours.
My mouse previously replaced my spouse!
GNAA reveals the truth - Nigger Operatives Responsible
MudanJiang, People's Republic of China: 13 August 2004
The GNAA has today broken the media lockout on North Korea's nuclear explosion. With governmental and press agencies everywhere desperately lying to the sheep-like public, the GNAA has had to step forward.
"We did it", the words of Gay Nigger Association President timecop. Nigger agent Relex is believed have penetrated deep into DPRK territory and conducted sabotage missions culminating in the recent Nuke blast. His weeklong absence from #GNAA (on irc.gnaa.us) was cause for suspicions that dangerous operations were afoot. Intelligence sources indicate that Relex did not have enough time to escape the lethal zone of the warhead, and was well within its kill radius at the time of detonation.
A pink ROFLcopter was seen speeding across the DPRK-Chinese border late Saturday night. Murmurs of Relex's successful extraction were confirmed finally on Sunday, 12 August by his personal appearance in #GNAA. He refused to comment on any operations at the time, claiming to have been "in Mexico".
His miraculous survival has led many to hypothesize about his invincibility. Some suggest the Holy Gay Nigger Seed may have "life-sustaining" properties, suggestions that the white medical establishment has dismissed. There is an ongoing debate surrounding this idea, with both sides throwing arguments back and forth. Supporters point to GNAA Terrorist Tar_Baby's unverified survival of the OSTG disaster, that killed over 300 Indians. The opposing camp points to the recent capture and possible death of GNAA broadcast propagandist l0de after he made threats to "crash a cruise ship into the Whitehouse". As of this release, the issue is not resolved, and hard evidence is lacking.
The GNAA's North Korea operations are believed to stem from the ongoing Korean/Black hatred.
About GNAA:
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.
Are you GAY ?
Are you a NIGGER ?
Are you a GAY NIGGER ?
If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!
Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member.
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I would be quite happy if just the window focus would follow to wherever I was looking. Can't say how many times I have typed important things like "reboot" or "rm -rf foo" in the wrong window just because my window focus didn't magically follow where I was looking. If they could get around to just doing that then maybe the days of "focus follows mouse" would be over.
On the other hand, the creamy filling from twinkies wouldn't clog up my optical mouse every day...
I am sure it's already been posted, but what happens if you are reading something? Or have watery eyes? Hay fever? What happens if you are wearing glasses? I think there should be some sort of air type device, where you can just move your hand in front of something and it will move the mouse.. kinda like http://www.fingerworks.com/ Fingerworks. I have an iGesture pad, kinda nice...
Why not just use a special stick on dot that is a blatant and obvious color? Use that to track movement instead of a facial feature. Sure, it doesnt look as cool, but would probably work alot better.
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I don't have a web-cam handy, so if someone could give this a spin a let us know how well it works, that would be very much appreciated.
If it works well enough, I would definitely use something like this to replace my mouse for everyday tasks. It wouldn't replace the keyboard, but it's always been the mouse that's caused most of my RSI-like symptoms.
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What would a device called "house" be like? A hand-drive mouse, perhaps?
Oh, wait...
Is it just me or is it a little ironic that it is spelled "no-use".
I personally think this is a good idea. I know that there will be the usual folks who chime in that they only use the CLI, but for most people who need to use office software that's not really very practical (yes, I love vi too but most PHB's see a "txt" extension and go "huh?").
I would love to be able to gesture with my nose and move the cursor. The carpal from using the mouse I have leads to back and shoulder pain, not just tightness in the hands and arms.
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
Now If they could just come up with a device you could attach to your head and it would type every thought.... Even my fingers would get fat! I'm sure people would think me ALOT more interesting too... maybe thats not a good idea after all.
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is the fact that you don't have a nose?
Prof. Tom Hutchinson at the University of Virginia has been researching this subject for decades. His system lets you control the cursor with the movement of your eyes and can track & record your eyes as you look across the screen. It's been in use for years for a great deal of UI research in addition to it's potential for handicapped users.
Both hands free while surfing the net...
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Where's the pic?
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... not pretty at all ...
I am aware of a device available for the severly disabled that uses lasers to track the movement of the eyes. It then creates text, from which voice is synthesized. This could be adapted for both mouse and keyboard input to computers.
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As good as my ergonomic mouse/keyboard combo is, less body movement is still a better replacement.
Just because you're moving less doesn't mean you'll be under less strain. It's the naturalness of the movement (however big or small) that's important.
Now, like any good Slashdottie, I haven't read the f...ing article, but if this "nouse" requires you to hold your head perfectly still, I can guarantee you that your neck muscles will be weeping by the end of the day.
Accountability on the heads of the powerful.
Power in the hands of the accountable.
I guess it's just WHO you know.
I have a flashback of Asimov where in one of the Caves of Steel series books the guy has his robots build more and more situations where he basically was mounted on a chair and food flowed into his face and he died.
;)
As if some geeks don't have weight problems as it is now from the sedintary style of sitting infront of a keyboard 10 - 14 - 20 hours a day, restricting movement even less is not something that appeals to me
As a rock-in-roll Physicist once said, No matter where you go, there you are.
I know the eye movements get be tracked, but I think for a good interaction with a gui toolkit it needs
to be really acurate to hit a button without hitting the other one right next to it.
Or selecting/high-lighting text.
I think that can be tricky.
As good as my ergonomic mouse/keyboard combo is, less body movement is still a better replacement.
That's great - in another couple of years, we'll be able to replace office workers with blobs that have to be carted in and out of the office. Wheel them in, pop in the caffeine IV line, plug in the connections, and they're ready to go!
I intend to make it to my yoga class tonight!
--LWM
I would like one just to install at certain users desks as a gag. I can just see them now.
"I do what? Flare my nostral to double click?"
Yes, and if you want to open up the internet you need to cross your eyes (crosseyed) and left blink at the same time!
Ah, I can think of several users I would like to try this one out on.
I'm assuming to left click you wink with you left eye and right click with your right eye, but I can't wink with my left eye without closing my right. Will there be a cd to help aid this handicap?
and think of the day Microsoft gets their grubby hands on it, when it'll then be a noose?
I think I will stick the regular mouse for a while atleast hehe. doesnt seem help for me,
Hmmm, for sights I surf, it makes more sense to steer with my tongue. it's always out anyway. I guess I could steer with another appendage too. Wait, that would really work!!!
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The best pointing device ever is the trackpad, I FELL IN LOVE WITH IT 10 years ago when I first saw one on an Apple Powerbook 500 series. I waited a couple of years until the trackpads for desktops came out in 1996 and since then the trackpad is the only pointing device I use. At the beginning they were very expensive, $140-$150 but they were worth the money. In 1998 Alps Electric introduced the first cheap trackpad for desktops ($15-25).I dont understand why they are not widely used for non-laptop computers, they offer better control than the conventional mice and require no space, no pads. You dont have to move your hand to use them, only a finger, etc. I think that the trackpads should be integrated in keyboards, there would be no need for a separate mouse anymore. The trackpad is one of the main advantages of using a laptop. Just imagine, with a trackpad integrated into the keyboard, we would have the best of both worlds, the ease of use of a laptop, the advantage of a full size keyboard and the power of a deskotop
Compared to the trackpad, conventional mice are not great, but at least are acceptable. However, other pointing devices used for laptops, the accupoint and the trackball, ARE HORRIBLE. IMB makes great laptops; however until rfecently they were completely unusable, because they did not have trackpads but accupoints. Fortunately, in the end IBM did the right thing and started using trackpads. Other companies obsessed with the accupoint are Toshiba and to some extent, Fujitsu. I hope eventually they will convert and use trackpads, for the benefit of their customers.
I'm no longer current on the research on pointing and control devices, and I don't recall reading any of Gorodnichy's papers, so for what it's worth:
This approach, at it's best, could work as a secondary pointing and control device. I primary device requires a very high degree of control. The hands and fingers are excellent for manipulating a primary device because they are very good at precise, controlled movement and manipulation of other objects through tactile feedback alone and especially well in coordination with vision.
The nose and eyelids, in contrast, are not capable of such movement and coordination. People don't have the necessary muscular control and coordination in their neck and facial muscles.
The human body does have some alternatives to the hands that can be good alternatives to those who cannot use their hands and fingers: feet, toes, tongue, and breath are the most promising.
How long before we start seeing late night info-mericals for the best in body toning input devices?
You have to do an ab-crunch to simulate a scroll wheel down. Squatting becomes equivalent to the return key. To move the pointer left, lunge to the left.
And think of the market: Chuck Norris teaches MS Excel. The Cindy Crawford Email Your Way to a Flatter Stomach Workout.
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It seems like tracking eye movements would be a lot more effective, since you have a lot more control over which way you're looking than over whether you blink or sneeze. I used to volunteer at a summer school for disabled kids, and there was one child who couldn't speak or move his hands. He had a strip of paper with the letters on it and pictures of some commonly used words, and he was remarkably good at conveying information by looking at the words or letters he needed to use. And it's much easier to distinguish where a person's eyes are focused than to tell an intentional blink from an unintentional one. Tongue movements might also work, since most people have a high level of tongue mobility.
I knew that you could.
so the games i like to play will still have the spring mouse effect, does this mean i have to wip my head from side to side to get person to turn, or will he just sit there turning left and right. How could you turn around, the camera would lose track of your nose and you would never be able to turn your charactor around. From now on video games would have to be a hallway, or it would be extreamly painful to get to any objective to the left and right or even behind you. This also means that i just spend 80$ on a paper weight named MX1000, damn it!
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A far more polished piece of software is cam2pan, which works wonderfully well in all manner of lighting situations. A far less polished piece of software is freelook (which is a project of mine).
Unfortunately, this "nouse" doesn't eliminate the need for one hand typing.
Did it say a noose? That sounds fun, compared to using a mouse.
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What about when you have to blink? Wouldn't you be clicking on something you might not want to everytime you need to moisten your eyes?
What's going to happen to a nouse user? All that extra activity is going to make very strong neck muscles. Wouldn't want to piss the bloke off and get head-butted.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
will be "nice".
Just like the plural of mouse is mice.
Dammit.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.
...until someone pokes an eye out.
Don't think we'll be gaming on the 'noose' either. How aboot that noose, eh?
I read "nouse" and heard "noose" in my head. Then I saw mention that this would solve the problem with those disabled people...
I feel dirty.
Direct away from face when opening.
Oral sex will never be the same
Table-ized A.I.
you would blink both eyes?
Now I got carpel tunnel neck syndrome. And I think my nose is out of joint.
Just think of how that would affect FPS gaming. Accuracy wouldn't be based on being able to point at the target, but being able to simply look at it and follow it. Guess accusations of using aimbots would spike.
I am still waiting for a Guesture Mouse. I crave to be able to flip off a Windows box 3 times to have it reboot.
"I am not being rude, Sir, it's just tech support duties."
Table-ized A.I.
...Canadian researchers have found a drastic increase in cases of computer users with Tourette's syndrom.
A "noose" interface would allow prisoners to surf the web while dangling from Iraqi bridges (*duck*)
The pretty girl in the cubicle across from me-- is she winking at me, or just right-clicking?
"The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the pieces." --Aldo Leopold (Paraphrased)
... who noticed the name of this thing is "No-Use"?
This comment is fully compliant with RFC 527.
I think this could also be quite useful for the average office lackey like me!
Can you imagine the hellish predicament you'd be in if you developed the equivalent of carpal tunnel syndrome in your eyelids? In order to rest your lids enough to heal, you'd probably have to choose between leaving your eyes closed and thus being temporarily blind, and wearing some sort of yet-to-be-invented protective device that would let you keep them open all the time.
Yes, I know, carpal tunnel syndrome is due to inflamed tendons and nerves in your wrist, and you don't have those parts in your eyelids. Nevertheless, your eyelids have a well established and important job to do. Making them do double duty as a 'nouse' button or other input device seems risky. In addition to potentially overworking the muscles, I can see damage to the surface of the eyes coming from consistant, long-term over-blinking or under-blinking.
Certainly, there are people for whom some risk to the eyes is a small price to pay for a way to communicate with others and control their environment. Able-bodied geeks, though, would probably be wise to move around a bit more rather than less. If you're just looking for an alternative to hand-actuated mice, try an input device like the footmouse instead.
>eat soup so that's what they call it these days.
There once was a thing called a Mouse,
replaced by that called a Nouse
but dont be to smug -
it may still have bugs,
and again your a geek to your spouse.
Imagine when you are looking at the picture of a beautiful girl, but the cursor keeps covering the important area. ;-)
I don't know why this is so interesting. A computer can be controled by any body part. One could probably move the mouse by kegeling if they wanted.
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By removing the N from the mouse that Spellbinder had turned into a nouse, and replacing it with an 'H', Letterman turns the nouse into a house!
Liberals call everyone Nazis yet they are the closest thing to it.
for... uh.. other things that you... uh.. need two .. hands..uh for.. on the comp - uh.. forget it.
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Truth: Redmond is lazy
Looking at CRTs and now flat panels it has occured to me I have been looking at a light bulb for this last 25 years.
Why? Redmond couldn't figure out how to print from the screen any other way..
Don't think this doesn't mater - just try it.
So back to the point, just another thing to distract us, a mouse that can't get out of the way of our reading.
Now just think if it was gender aware.
I haven't had much success with them. I tried one out, but it was nouse. Sorry, I couldn't help it. :-D
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Users would move a cursor around a computer screen by moving their nose and blinking instead of clicking a conventional mouse
Can you imagine winking all day at the computer screen ? Most of it would be left eye wink to simulate left click (unless both eyes = left click, right eye wink = right click)!!
If you want to lose more weight, try upgrading your computer with DDR. Instead of controlling the machine with your hands or even your nose, you let your feet do the walking.
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It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
less body movement is still a better replacement.
Let me guess, you're american, right?
for use in the ImmersaDesk system. I called it "Head Woggle Navigation" and the user's head attitude synced up display navigations with wand input (3d mouse) never caught on though. But I do see things like this from time to time.
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Though this may be helpful for disabled people, it could be more annoying than productive to the average user. Hands are controlled extremely voluntarily, and we are accustomed to using our hands for pointing, writing, and other detail-oriented tasks.
However, we often move our eyes and head without thinking about it. Count how many times you blink--what if blinking was interpretted as a mouse click? You'd have to hold your head perfectly still to keep the cursor in one place; however, you need only take your hand off the mouse to do the same. Which is easier?
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less body movement is still a better replacement.
Um, isn't less movement bad? Blood flow is good. Variety of motion is good. No motion is not variety. Standing up and stretching every fifteen minutes is great.
...they'll give you enough roupe to hang yourself?
1) Download naughty images
2) Curse yourself because you can't use your hands
3) ???
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Just imagine playing doom 3 and something jumping out at you from the shadows 90 degrees to the right. Sounds like neck trauma to me. I'm twitchy enough while I'm in front of the computer.
from the Life of Brian: Man 1 Don't you swear at my wife! Cheeky I was only asking her to shut up so we'd hear what he's saying, big nouse! Wife 1 Don't you call my husband big nouse! Cheeky Well he has got a big nouse! Man 2 Could you be quiet, please? What was that? Cheeky I don't know, was too busy talking to big nouse. ...
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I mean, seriously, think about it. It's called nouse. You can easily imagine the space and have it go from nouse to "no use". How are you going to market something that's "no use"?
shut up
i hate it when you talk
He'll get geud just like the poor Opti-Grab inventor was.
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
could it not be damaging to the eyes to be blinking in rapid sucession?
it feels uncomfortable just doing it for a few seconds to me.
Imagine a guy sleeping on the keyboard , with his chin firmly on the space key and right hand on the numpad ENTER key :)
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Oh, if I stand on my chair I can see at least 7 guys down the aisle like this
Back to topic, so how about using the keyboard with a nose ?
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With gestures enabled you would get a little neck workout when you want to reload a page in Opera/FireFox..
Can this really be good? I would think all those micromovements wouldn't be good for your brain (constant rattling) or your neck. Not to mention you'ld look inflicted by the black shakes.
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I suffer from RSI (what Americans incorrectly call WRULD - it doesn't have to be work related, or upper limb). I've been living with it (and kept my career) for over 10 years (10 years since diagnosis, so probably 12 or 13 years total).
RSI is caused by lots of repetitive small movements and is made worse by poor body posture.
Given that your nose isn't designed for pointing
I can only assume the pointing is done by subtle
movements of the head. Thus putting the "small" movements and tension into the neck. The neck isn't designed for this, its designed for gross
motor movements under concious control and subtle movements under subconcious control (like just allowing you to look where you want - you don't think about having to do that, you just do it).
As for you eyes, well presumably blinking will be
akin to clicking - well studies already show that
the average computer user doesn't blink enough (roughly half of what a paper-reader blinks). This
increases eye strain and eye-dryness. Both bad things. If this device is going to encourage to
blink less to avoid clicking, well...
Interesting idea, but even worse health consequences than a keyboard. Get a split keyboard
and a good mouse, learn to sit properly and learn to type.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/i/d/idg101/thesi s/Thesis-Unsigned.pdf
Very cool post. Thank you! I may have to try this for myself. (Have to buy a compatible webcam first I guess!)
Hopefully someone mods you up more..
Please mod this post only if you think others should/n't read this. I have enough ego^H^H^Hkarma. Thanks!
There is one. It is called the spine.
that's good :) I like that. heh heh
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The Nouse is so going to replace the mouse. And we are going to change the way we build cities because some dude was too lazy to stick enough wheels on his scooter.
I sit at the computer hours at a time. I eat, drink I cup my head in my hands, I sneeze, I could, I blink... we are in much better control with out hands, and it is impractical to use things that we have less control over as primary input devices.