ISS Food Shortage Cause Revealed

who ate all the pies... by xirtam_work · 2004-12-30 07:01 · Score: 1, Redundant

they did! yum :-)

Re:who ate all the pies... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:14 · Score: 0

lol, what?
Re:who ate all the pies... by M3rk1n_Muffl3y · 2004-12-30 07:27 · Score: 1

I had the same problem in my student days.

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Re:who ate all the pies... by ResidntGeek · 2004-12-30 07:30 · Score: 1

Technically, they left all the pies. The current crew's diet was heavy on sweets and candy.

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Re:who ate all the pies... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:33 · Score: 0

likkle wiley did

($100 says on one on slashdot gets this reference)
Re:who ate all the pies... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:11 · Score: 0

That is a good question.

I would have thought that the ISSs warm urine-to-sparkling-spring-water
and poop-sandwich-mificators would have some sort of
rate-limiting or QoS (Quality of Sandwich) implemented.

I guess the little red bulb on the front was burnt and they had to get their hands dirty and rely on a manual count.

Speaking of which, anyone know what the composition of this so talked about "space candy" is?
Re:who ate all the pies... by TillmanJ · 2004-12-30 08:18 · Score: 1

Hell no, it was Dutti Doogz! Pay up sucker.
Re:who ate all the pies... by Doc_Linux · 2004-12-30 11:08 · Score: 1

It's an English thing:

o/~

Who ate all the pies?
Who ate all the pies?
You fat bastard
You fat bastard
You ate all the pies!

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New fad diet by nizo · 2004-12-30 07:01 · Score: 5, Funny

The two U.S. and Russian astronauts on the International Space Station had to rely on a candy-laden diet for five weeks because their predecessors raided the pantry. "Both of us ended up losing a few pounds," U.S. astronaut Leroy Chiao said in a news conference from the station on Wednesday.

I can see it now, the new "candy only space station" diet fad. I can't wait to see how many pounds I lost after eating fudge and chocolate for the past two weeks.

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Re:New fad diet by ackthpt · 2004-12-30 07:09 · Score: 2, Funny

I can see it now, the new "candy only space station" diet fad. I can't wait to see how many pounds I lost after eating fudge and chocolate for the past two weeks.
Call it the Dentist Diet, because you'll lose a few teeth to it, too and maybe develope diabetes.
i can just see it, paris hilton showing great care and concern for all the unfortunate spacers, just before she goes down on ... uh ... a big candy cane.

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Re:New fad diet by zymurgyboy · 2004-12-30 07:10 · Score: 1

The two U.S. and Russian astronauts on the International Space Station had to rely on a candy-laden diet for five weeks because their predecessors raided the pantry. "Both of us ended up losing a few pounds," U.S. astronaut Leroy Chiao said in a news conference from the station on Wednesday.
I guess we know which option they probably wouldn't be selecting in the poll at this point.

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Re:New fad diet by PoopJuggler · 2004-12-30 07:18 · Score: 5, Funny

This will morph into some sort of Low-Carb Cannibalism Diet when they really run out of food...
Re:New fad diet by Rolo+Tomasi · 2004-12-30 07:40 · Score: 3, Informative

You don't get diabetes from eating lots of sweet stuff. Obesity is a risk factor though.

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Re:New fad diet by stratjakt · 2004-12-30 07:50 · Score: 2, Funny

You can, however, put yourself into a diabetic coma by eating too much sweet stuff - though that's not the same as having diabetes.

I heard once that it used to be commonplace to "punish" kids who stole candy by making them eat a bowl of sugar, kind of like the "im going to watch you smoke every one of these!" ploy. More than one kid was put into a coma, or died as a result.

Yeah, you can OD on sugar.

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Re:New fad diet by Squatchman · 2004-12-30 07:54 · Score: 1

That white stuff is good shit man.
Re:New fad diet by roman_mir · 2004-12-30 07:57 · Score: 1

Weight loss probably caused from muscle loss, not fat, since candies (as I understand) are mostly carbohydrates (sugare) and fat.

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Re:New fad diet by Pig+Hogger · 2004-12-30 08:03 · Score: 1

The two U.S. and Russian astronauts on the International Space Station had to rely on a candy-laden diet for five weeks because their predecessors raided the pantry.
Panty raid?
Oh, PANTRY...
Re:New fad diet by drinkypoo · 2004-12-30 08:04 · Score: 4, Interesting

You don't get diabetes from eating lots of sweet stuff. Obesity is a risk factor though.

I wouldn't be so sure. Some research indicates that making heavy demands on your pancreas can "burn it out." When you eat carbs (any carbs) your pancreas produces insulin to manage the conversion of carbohydrates into glucose. The more "pure" the carbohydrate the more easily processed it is, which means it happens more rapidly -- meaning, in turn, that your pancreas gas to work harder to produce more insulin.

The problem of youth diabetes was basically unheard of in this country until the USDA published the "food pyramid" on the advice of the NIH and we started consuming more carbohydrates and less protein. Correlation does not in itself imply causation but there's just too much evidence for it to be coincidence. The kids who are contracting diabetes aren't all obese either though conspicuous consumption of candy or even white bread will make you fat a lot quicker than eating lots of meat...

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Re:New fad diet by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:13 · Score: 0

Not Type I, but there seems to be a link between foods with a high GI and Type II diabetes.
Re:New fad diet by smatthew · 2004-12-30 09:03 · Score: 1

Only a diabetic can go into a diabetic coma. A diabetic coma is caused by ketoacidosis. This occurs when your body does not produce insulin, and your muscle cells have to burn fat since they can't use sugar without insulin. The fat burning produces ketones, which acidify the blood. And that's what causes someone to go into a coma.

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Re:New fad diet by TWX · 2004-12-30 09:13 · Score: 1

"Yeah, you can OD on sugar."

Well, Sugar is my drug of choice. It's only fair that overdosing on it could have the same result as crack...

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Re:New fad diet by oliverthered · 2004-12-30 10:00 · Score: 2, Interesting

Fat is better for you than short chain carbs too.
1: It doesn't require insuline to turn it into fat.
2: It's digested slower, so not so much of it gets stored as fat.
3: Because fats are absorbed slower you don't get the craving you do with carbs, so fat is less adictive.
4: Carbohydrates produce a transitionaly type of cholesterol that causes the formation of HDL? cholesterol.

I looked all this up about 5 years ago because I have heart problems in my family, sweets are worse for you than a block of lard, and this is why the Atkins diet works.

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Re:New fad diet by damiangerous · 2004-12-30 10:30 · Score: 1

You don't get diabetes from eating lots of sweet stuff.
What was once considered true, then a myth, is now potentially true again.
Re:New fad diet by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 11:06 · Score: 0

Hypoglycemia can cause a swing the other way and can be very painful for days.
Re:New fad diet by drinkypoo · 2004-12-30 11:39 · Score: 1

Well, actually, it's not why atkins works - atkins works because it puts you into ketosis, not to be confused with ketoacidosis which is often a problem for diabetics. In ketosis you don't store fat (period) and your rate of lean muscle loss is slowed. Your brain runs on ketones instead of glucose, which I am told is more efficient, though I'm not sure that part matters. You're quite right about the many drawbacks of carbs, though.

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Re:New fad diet by oliverthered · 2004-12-30 11:59 · Score: 1

You enter ketosis when you blood sugar levels drop to next to nothing.
(cells also store sugar so that has to be used up too).

If I don't eat before bed when I wake up in the morning my body is starting to go into ketosis, if I were to only eat food that took a long time to be absorbed and produced a low amount of sugar I would remain in ketosis for most of the day.

breaking the sugar-fat cycle is how the Atkins diet works, and it's also how it manages to keep cholesterol down too.

If someone was to ask me what diet they should take I would advise reduced sugar, reduced simple carbs like white bread, wheat pasta, potatoes and long grain rice, don't eat the food that says xyz% fat free. This would avoid a sugar rush so you'd eat less, help stop diabetes as well as avoiding sugar->fat.

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Re:New fad diet by hawk · 2004-12-30 12:00 · Score: 2, Funny

And you thought that earth-bound roommates were a hassle . . .

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Re:New fad diet by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 12:14 · Score: 0

Correlation does not imply causation. Repeat. That said, how would you correlate the situation in Japan? The Japanese traditionally have eaten a lot of rice. The majority of calories have been from rice (carbs) and very little protein. That would suggest, according to you, that there would be a high rate of youth with diabetes.

While it is true that many older Japanese people have diabetes, it is not necessarily true for young people. In recent years Japanese people, especially young people, are eating much lower ammounts of rice annually, but are eating a lot more protein (meats) and fat. Cardiovascular problems are an increasing risk in Japan.

I just don't buy the Atkins diet thing at all. You may lose weight, but it seems absurd to suggest that it's a healthier practice than eating more carbs and less fat. I look around and see a lot of fat people (including myself) that eat a lot of meat and dairy products. Then I look at athletes that are in excellent condition that eat a lot of carbs. Correlation does not imply causation, but that is awefully convincing to me. Not to mention that the few years I spent living in the U.S. gained me a LOT of weight (I love meats), while moving back to Japan and switching back to a Japanese diet (less meats, more carbs) got me to lose a lot of weight. I'm still overweight, but doing much better than when I was eating all that protein.

Anecdotal evidence, yes, but it still seems that low carb high fat is a very risky diet. Either way, I get this hunch that the BALANCE of the diet is what counts, as the human body (pancreas included) probably reacts and interacts differently based on the various input it gets. All carbs and no fat (which in reality is next to impossible) is probably just as risky as no carbs and lots of protein and fat. As weird as it may sound, I find that French and Italian cuisine tend to be rather healthy. Lots of veggies, you get a good deal of protein, some fat, and carbs. Top it off with some wine, and it seems like a pretty balanced way to eat. The key is probably to not OVER EAT (slow food is the key here), and to make sure you get at least minimal exercise.
Re:New fad diet by LoRdTAW · 2004-12-30 13:14 · Score: 1

Yea a few lines after drinking and smoking a little too much will straiten your ass out nicely.
Re:New fad diet by AndyL · 2004-12-30 14:10 · Score: 0, Flamebait

Too bad it killed Doctor Atkins.
Re:New fad diet by oliverthered · 2004-12-30 14:14 · Score: 1

you have to wonder why he was on the diet in the first place? and what other weird things he was doing.

Sure, diet won't solve all you problems, but it can be a step in the right direction to solving some of them.

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Re:New fad diet by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 22:12 · Score: 0

Dr. Atkins died after slipping on ice and thonking his head on concrete.
Re:New fad diet by bill_mcgonigle · 2005-01-02 14:48 · Score: 1

Some research indicates that making heavy demands on your pancreas can "burn it out."

If you have any pointers they'd be appreciated. I have a friend who just lost 30 pounds in a couple months by loading > 400mg of caffeine a day plus a gram of mixed pyruvataes and just now got home from the hospital from losing 2/3 of her pancreas. The timing could be cooincidental but it seems unlikely.

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Re:New fad diet by drinkypoo · 2005-01-02 15:29 · Score: 1

First, I myself said that correlation does not imply causation. Don't try to beat me over the head with my own words. Second, the Japanese who couldn't handle the carb-rich diet probably didn't have too many offspring. Third, they eatlots of rice, but they don't tend to be such pigs and eat both less and slower than we americans.

Next, let us examine your statement about athletes. Yes, they eat carbs. However, they have two things giong for them that others do not. First, they are very active, which as you should know increases your metabolic rate. Second, they're not eating that kind of food all the time, unless they're trying to gain weight. Carbo loading is used to provide large amounts of energy for physical activity.

Now, the worst thing you can do to yourself is mix lots of carbs and fat. Fat is more energy dense by volume than carbs, and carbs will make sure that your body wants to store fat - you know, the thing it stops doing during ketosis. Japanese food is usually pretty low fat and the portions are not excessively large.

Italian cuisine is anything but healthy. It is high in both fat and carbs and you traditionally see a lot of both heart disease and obesity in the italian population. It's not so obvious in America now because just about everyone is fat. The link between carbohydrates is well known; for example read this excerpt from a writeup I did for Everything2:

As far back as 1825, Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin wrote in "The Physiology of Taste" that "floury and feculent substances which man makes the prime ingredients of his daily nourishment" were responsible for obesity -- A conclusion he came to after listening to various "stout parties" wax lyrical on the subjects of bread, rice, and potatoes. Ancel Keys, a University of Minnesota physician will back Jean up on this. In a study of Neapolitans ate a little lean meat once or twice a week, and subsisted mainly on bread and pasta. He wrote that "There was no evidence of nutritional deficiency, but the working-class women were fat."
How the government fattened America

As for the healthiness of the Atkins diet, Dr. Atkins lived for 72 years with a congenital heart defect and died because he slipped on ice and hit his head. He was on his own diet. There are two lessons here: It is clearly possible to be healthy when on the Atkins diet, and you should salt a walk if you're old and it's icy.

All carbs and no fat is a whole lot more dangerous than all fat (and protein, and fiber) and no carbs.

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Re:New fad diet by beguyld · 2005-01-02 20:40 · Score: 1

Do a search at www.mercola.com. A ton of references there, plus commentary from a very knowledgeable doctor with a large practice (including other doctors).

There are two factors. While it is simple logic that the pancreas can "burn out" just like anything that is continuously stressed, the reality is that diabetes (type two at least; and perhaps type one to some degree) is actually a body-wide cellular problem of insulin resistance. The cells get so mucn of it that it takes more and more to get the nutrients into the cell. The problem is that insulin has many other effects on the body and the excess requirement both loads the pancreas and leads to high blood sugar and excess insulin in the system. And those two things lead to all the problems that are well documented as high risk factors for diabetics, such as eye diseases, heart disease, cancer, and serious circulation problems in the extremeties (often leading to amputation).

I'll pass on all that and just skip the new candy diet, thanks all the same...
Re:New fad diet by Bastian · 2005-01-06 04:20 · Score: 1

That's fine with me, but count me out when it morphs into the Low-Carb Autocannibalism Diet when they really really run out of food.

FP by justforaday · 2004-12-30 07:01 · Score: 0, Offtopic

There is nothing for you to eat here. Please move along.

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Re:FP by ackthpt · 2004-12-30 07:46 · Score: 4, Informative

There is nothing for you to eat here. Please move along.
I feel that way now, looking at the Progresso soups at the store. In the past couple months Progresso has added Monosodium Glutamate (or disodium guanylate, same thing effectively) to all their soups. I can't eat the stuff for the migraines.
Put less spices into food
Add MSG
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Profit!!!

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Simpsons Space Station Food by teiresias · 2004-12-30 07:02 · Score: 5, Funny

I thought they had sturgeon aplenty aboard space stations.

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I don't know, by DoraLives · 2004-12-30 07:02 · Score: 0, Redundant

what the problem was with these whiners. I mean, it's not like they couldn't just get in the car and drive down to the 7-eleven, right?

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Re:I don't know, by exhilaration · 2004-12-30 07:04 · Score: 3, Funny

Dude, there's no 7-eleven near the ISS! But I hear Starbucks is opening three locations there any day now.
Re:I don't know, by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:20 · Score: 1, Funny

They were a short shuttle ride away from a Blake's 7-11, though...
Re:I don't know, by Ba3r · 2004-12-30 09:20 · Score: 1

Yeah, but then the astronauts will go from a candy-laden diet to an over-priced biscotti and pastry diet, not to mention the hypertension from the caffiene.

Actually, come to think of it, their diets will come to resemble that of a software engineer (like me!), so maybe they should just use code monkeys to test out space living conditions... i mean they already have the immersive radiation soaked environment, muscle atrophy, and Vitamin D deficiency...

News for nerds. From 2 days ago. by chopper749 · 2004-12-30 07:02 · Score: 0, Flamebait

What happened to this place?

And In Other News... by ackthpt · 2004-12-30 07:03 · Score: 4, Funny

The previous crew beat up the current crew for their lunch money.

vice president cheney was appalled, "that should have gone to halliburton!"

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Re:And In Other News... by stupidfoo · 2004-12-30 07:06 · Score: 4, Funny

dude... 2004 called, they want their joke back...

Oh wait - it's still December. Oh well, carry on.
Re:And In Other News... by Icarus1919 · 2004-12-30 07:30 · Score: 1

We'll get back to you on the joke being over once money stops being funneled to Halliburton in backdoor deals...
Re:And In Other News... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:32 · Score: 0

he doesnt work there and hasnt in a long time.

it is immaterial how much money they make, they already owe him and have to pay that for work done (it's called basic accounting)

outside of them going out of business he doesnt get more money or less money dependign on how well they do.
Re:And In Other News... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:57 · Score: 0

Dude, you guys lost(again), quit being a pussy and get over it.
Re:And In Other News... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:59 · Score: 0

dude... in Korea only old people funnel money to Haliburton because your Dad called and said he'll make deals involving your backdoor in Soviet Russia until all your base belong to us.
Re:And In Other News... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:08 · Score: 0

dude... in Korea only old people funnel money to Haliburton because your Dad called and said he'll make deals involving your backdoor in Soviet Russia until all your base belong to us.

Error: coffee expelled through nose.
Re:And In Other News... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:23 · Score: 0

I still have seen no actual evidence that Halliburton paid off anyone in the Clinton adminisration when their initial sole-source contract was awarded. All I have seen are vague accusations of "being funneled", but no proof.
If you have any actual evidence that someone in the Clinton administration was bribed to award Halliburton the intial sole-source contract, then reveal it, or stop with the all the mud-slinging.
Re:And In Other News... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:28 · Score: 0

And we'll get back to you once you realize that Halliburton was getting "no-bid" (only no-bid because there's no one else to bid for them) contracts during the clinton years too...

How'd BushCheneyHitler pull that one off?
Re:And In Other News... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 09:59 · Score: 0

Dude you lost
get used to it.

sheesh

Roomate problems by rednip · 2004-12-30 07:03 · Score: 1

I can really relate, I've had roommates eat my food before. Grazing for food was practically a sport in some of the houses which I have lived.

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Re:Roomate problems by detour207 · 2004-12-30 07:07 · Score: 1

I had the same problem except my roommates would eat all the munchies and leave all the healthy crap not the other way around.
Re:Roomate problems by __aaclcg7560 · 2004-12-30 07:21 · Score: 1

In my household, no one touches the tofu or soy milk (which meant everyone ate my food instead).
Re:Roomate problems by ackthpt · 2004-12-30 07:24 · Score: 2, Funny

I can really relate, I've had roommates eat my food before. Grazing for food was practically a sport in some of the houses which I have lived.
Wait until that shit's happening in your workplace and see how people feel about it.
At a job, years ago, someone pinched a woman's food and she sent out a decidely angry company-wide email, threatening to put rat poison in her food next time. It was all rather amusing, especially when the execs tried to play it down with a follow-up email
can't we all just get along?

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Re:Roomate problems by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:25 · Score: 0

3 words for you.

Milk chocolate laxatives.
Re:Roomate problems by Snowdog668 · 2004-12-30 07:35 · Score: 1

This reminds me of growing up with my sibs. My brother would come home from school and take out the big salad bowl. Into that went a whole box of cereal and a half gallon of milk. That was just the after school snack. Mom would only shop on Saturdays so in general the cupboards were bare by Thursday. How he didn't end up 500+ pounds is beyond me. I of course only weighed about 140 pounds when I graduated highschool. I don't think I ever saw a leftover until I was 15 (when he went away to college). My wife thinks it's weird that I can still get by on one meal a day. :)

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Re:Roomate problems by Detritus · 2004-12-30 07:36 · Score: 1

Chocolate Ex-Lax.
Ideal for making the Brownies of Doom.

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Re:Roomate problems by TykeClone · 2004-12-30 07:38 · Score: 1

I'm starting to get this at home with the kids. All of the good leftovers (that I'll try to get for lunch!) are gone by the time I get home to eat.

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Re:Roomate problems by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:05 · Score: 0

I worked with a lady that would bring a subway sandwich as a treat every friday, and half the time it would get stolen. My suggestion was to put a condom with Mayo in the sandwich one day just to see what happens.
Re:Roomate problems by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:50 · Score: 0

Several guys were "grazing" at my mom's workplace a few years ago. They had been caught several times, and, when confronted, just laughed and said,"So?".
So, not only did she bake brownies with Ex-Lax pills ground up in them, she made a sandwich and put a couple of tablespoons of "Endorphin Rush" (that I gave her) in the middle. (Endorphin Rush is a very hot sauce. Not the hottest, but it's primarily made up of Habanero pepper extract, vinegar, and salt). She then put it all in a paper bag and wrote: "Poisoned Food. Do Not Eat." on the outside. She placed it in the 'fridge at work the next day.
The "grazers" ignored the warning and helped themselves to both. She said that (a) there was pain and noticeable discomfort for several guys. All the more noticeable since they worked on the factory floor, far from the restroom. (b) the "grazing" stopped.
Re:Roomate problems by SwimsWithTheFishes · 2004-12-30 09:17 · Score: 1

Simply label all your food "MEDICAL SAMPLES" or "BIOHAZARD" That will slow them down! Seriously I did this at one work place, as someone ate my lunch every day for a week. After so labeling my lunch, hiding waaaaay back in the fridge, as sign was quickly posted on the fridge "Who is putting MEDICAL SAMPLES in the fridge". They did quit eating my lunch however.

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Re:Roomate problems by fishbowl · 2004-12-30 10:19 · Score: 1

> I'm starting to get this at home with the kids.

A padlock on the refrigerator and cabinet doors, to which only you have the key, will go a long way to solve your problem. If that's too extreme for your household, then a cabinet and a small fridge in a part of the house that's off limits will give you some privacy. This is a privacy/respect issue, and should be treated like one.

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Re:Roomate problems by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 10:23 · Score: 0

>Wait until that shit's happening in your workplace
>and see how people feel about it.

The key words are "This person's behavior is creating a hostile work environment that I can not tolerate."
Not in a company wide email, but in a private conversation with the HR director. The execs won't respond with some kind of snide quip, they will fix the problem. Because those magic words, "hostile work environment" take their toes to a line beyond which criminal penalties dwell.
Re:Roomate problems by TykeClone · 2004-12-30 10:40 · Score: 1

I figured that they could just go ahead and sing the "dad is great" song from Bill Cosby when they do that. That should be deterrence enough.

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Re:Roomate problems by fishbowl · 2004-12-30 12:13 · Score: 1

>I figured that they could just go ahead and sing the
> "dad is great" song from Bill Cosby when they do
>that. That should be deterrence enough.

Sorry, I've worked with too many straight-up juvenile delinquents (literally, wards of the state), and other antisocial kids. I'll never put up with any bullshit from any kids, especially not from manipulative teenagers.

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heh by boschmorden · 2004-12-30 07:04 · Score: 4, Funny

the astronauts should have done a better job labeling the food in the fridge! damn, i hate when people eat my food at work that i put in there.

Re:heh by EaterOfDog · 2004-12-30 07:21 · Score: 1

We used to have a woman who worked for us who would go to the fridge, get someones sandwich and take a HUGE bite out of it. Then she would rewrap it and put it back. I think maybe she had some food issues.

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Re:heh by darth_MALL · 2004-12-30 07:31 · Score: 1

Reading your nick, I think maybe you have some food issues also ;)
Re:heh by bwy · 2004-12-30 07:37 · Score: 1, Funny

Nah, they just need a space station linebacker. Perhaps Terry Tate, office linebacker, has a brother or something in need of work.
Re:heh by EaterOfDog · 2004-12-30 07:38 · Score: 1

I no see your dog. Maybe you get bigger dog next time. (picks teeth)

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Re:heh by Kobun · 2004-12-30 08:39 · Score: 1

My solution was to always poison my food. Ever heard of Da Bomb? Wonderful hot sauce, adds some real zing to cheese dip, chili, soups, and the shampoo that first drained, then filled up with water mysteriously.
Re:heh by fishbowl · 2004-12-30 10:25 · Score: 1

Dammit, Eater. You owe me a Dr. Pepper and a new Keyboard.

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Re:heh by Lehk228 · 2004-12-30 12:30 · Score: 1

I happen to have a bottle of that stuff in my fridge, mix a small amount (scoop out a bit with the end (1- 1.5 cm) of a butter knife) and stir it in real well into a small cool-whip tub worth of sour cream and you have some killer dip for much cheaper than the stuff you buy in stores.

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They ran out of food because... by tsmithnj · 2004-12-30 07:04 · Score: 5, Funny

...the refridge was an older 16-bit model

Re:They ran out of food because... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:43 · Score: 0

Now that "In Korea..." has worn of, we'll start calling everything an older 16 model.

please mod parent down by drinkypoo · 2004-12-30 07:05 · Score: 0, Offtopic

I'm trying to eat here and a picture of a naked fat man is putting me off my breakfast.

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Re:please mod parent down by Anonymous+Custard · 2004-12-30 07:13 · Score: 3, Funny

I'm trying to eat here and a picture of a naked fat man is putting me off my breakfast.

Haven't you heard? The "picture a naked fat man" technique is the latest diet craze!

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Re:please mod parent down by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:20 · Score: 0

I am that naked fat man. It's tough being me. Eating all day and jacking off at porn.
Re:please mod parent down by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:24 · Score: 0

I am that naked fat man. It's tough being me. Eating all day and jacking off at porn.

Dad???
Re:please mod parent down by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:26 · Score: 0

Son??
Re:please mod parent down by kisrael · 2004-12-30 07:38 · Score: 1

Even worse...a picture a "naked fat man" in zero-G...

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Re:please mod parent down by Strick-9 · 2004-12-30 08:23 · Score: 1

"I'm trying to eat here and a picture of a naked fat man is putting me off my breakfast."

...says the user with the name 'drinkypoo'. Nice.
Re:please mod parent down by drinkypoo · 2004-12-30 08:27 · Score: 1

Anyone who has not heard the phrase "just one little drinkypoo before we go" has never known an alcoholic baby boomer. (The individual in question now has over two years sober, his 3 mo. AA coin is right in front of me...) My nick has nothing to do with enema "fun" and/or scat play, thankyouverymuch.

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Re:please mod parent down by Strick-9 · 2004-12-30 08:37 · Score: 2

Ah well, I've learned something new today. I've never really known an alcoholic baby boomer, and therefore was not familiar with the phrase.

Good day, and you'rewelcomeverymuch.

P.S.: (and seriously) Props to your friend.

I don't believe it! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:05 · Score: 5, Funny

Wait wait wait.

You mean the food is missing because someone ate it?

It wasn't an advanced plasma-based alien civilization surrounding the ship and impregnating it with mysterious "digester rays" that convert protein into a subatomic substance capable of passing through metal? So they could slowly feed their young without being noticed?

And it's not the case that the crew's flesh is immune to this only because of a freak coincidence based on the structure of their nylon garments and a compound exuded by the human body when weightless?

And that even as I type this the hungry life forms are growing and preparing to use the same mysterious force in reverse to manifest themselves before the shocked and frightened crew? Broadcast live around the globe so we may all be terrified to witness a strange new life form consume the human astronauts before our very eyes like drinking juice through a straw, leaving the indigestible compounds suspended in midair suggesting just the shape of a former living, breathing human before disappating to the four corners of the ship as surviving crew members weep and pull heir hair in terror, not wanting to be the next to issue the blood-curdling screams?

I think they should double-check. Just in case.

Re:I don't believe it! by schon · 2004-12-30 07:32 · Score: 1

Don't tell me, let me guess - you write for Enterprise, right? :o)
Re:I don't believe it! by myukew · 2004-12-30 07:35 · Score: 1

of course the aliens have mind-control beams too, so I wouldn't trust those "news".

I for one welcome our new plasma-based overlords"

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Re:I don't believe it! by superdude72 · 2004-12-30 07:39 · Score: 1

Don't worry. Spock's unique Vulcan physiology will enable him to survive and save the crew in the last 5 minutes. I call this "Deus ex Vulcana."
Re:I don't believe it! by 3rd_Floo · 2004-12-30 08:41 · Score: 1

Dude! Have you had Space Food? No self respecting alien would want to convert that into compatable food. Think of the alien childern! They would grow up with Hooves!
Re:I don't believe it! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 14:52 · Score: 0

even as I type this the hungry life forms are growing and preparing to use the same mysterious force in reverse to manifest themselves before the shocked and frightened crew? Broadcast live around the globe so we may all be terrified to witness a strange new life form consume the human astronauts before our very eyes like drinking juice through a straw, leaving the indigestible compounds suspended in midair suggesting just the shape of a former living, breathing human before disappating to the four corners of the ship as surviving crew members weep and pull heir hair in terror, not wanting to be the next to issue the blood-curdling screams?

who cares? I for one will welcome them.
Re:I don't believe it! by Hognoxious · 2004-12-31 04:32 · Score: 1

you write for Enterprise, right?
Noh. Firstly, there was no mention of someone falling through a wormhole from the days when ST was (or will be) good. Second, it was far too good.

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You Fat Sons 'a bitches! by mekkab · 2004-12-30 07:06 · Score: 1

We can't just 'order a pizza' up here!
And this 'air cassarole' isn't gonna tide me over much longer! When I get back down there its knucle sandwiches for all of ya!

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Re:You Fat Sons 'a bitches! by adeydas · 2004-12-30 07:39 · Score: 1

what no mc. donalds on a billion dollar space shuttle, you gotta be kidding me.

Re:News for nerds. From 2 days ago. by wwest4 · 2004-12-30 07:07 · Score: 0, Offtopic

> by chopper749 (574759)
> What happened to this place?

It jumped the shark, comment-wise, way before you even signed up for your current account. Before I did, for that matter.

So... by thewldisntenuff · 2004-12-30 07:07 · Score: 1

Youre telling me an entire, $X billion space station could possibly been lost cause the last guys in the place ate too much?

Youd think thered be better safeguards for that kind of stuff....Meh.

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Re:So... by ackthpt · 2004-12-30 07:28 · Score: 0

Youre telling me an entire, $X billion space station could possibly been lost cause the last guys in the place ate too much?
You forget that everything is accounted for, as weight, rather mass, is critical. Probably one of those english-metric foul-ups again, damn schools in the USA still teaching lengths of kings noses and shit like that. Small wonder some schools are pushing back the clock on evolution.

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Re:So... by stratjakt · 2004-12-30 07:41 · Score: 1

What the fuck are you talking about, stupid?

BTW, they teach and use metric in US schools, and metric is the system the US officially uses (go see nist.gov).

Imperial measure is just common in every day use, and not just in the US.

Next time you hear some limey ask for a pint of bitters, make sure you correct him, as it should be 0.473176475 litres.

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Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:53 · Score: 0

Why not just a half-pint, then?
Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-31 02:28 · Score: 0

If its some limey, it'll actually be 0.568261485 liters. We use Imperial Pints here not American ones. Also a pint of bitter is one of the few (only) things that is legally allowed to be served by the pint over here.

Because... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:07 · Score: 5, Funny

In space, no-one can hear your stomach rumble

Re:Because... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:13 · Score: 0

In Soviet Space Stations your stomach rumbles YOU!

Wh by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:07 · Score: 0

Beware! I dont think so. A b c

Candy? by exhilaration · 2004-12-30 07:07 · Score: 2, Interesting

Hmmmm... you know what would suck, getting a cavity or a painful toothache while in orbit.

Re:Candy? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:30 · Score: 3, Informative

you know what would suck, getting a cavity or a painful toothache while in orbit.

More than you'd think. Cavities are extremely sensitive to pressure changes, if the pressure outside them drops, the air inside them can crack the tooth at worst, or hurt a whole hell of a lot as it expands at best.

who is going to restructure NASA? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:08 · Score: 2, Insightful

This is a small thing, logistics that are highly important and yet the management at NASA was able to completely screw it up.

I have a great Idea, let's sell NASA to a private company, maybe they would have the balls to continue into space and do their jobs instead of screwing around with politics and allow the engineers and scientists to do their jobs?

cripes, sending a crew to the ISS and not making sure there is enough food? Now I would be concerned by the water supplies and Oxygen up there, if the NASA management is incompetent enough to allow problems with the food, then more important factors are certianly at risk.

and YES, this is a management issue, it is management's responsibility to make sure things are right.

they need to fire the lot of them with extreme predijuice and hire a new batch that can do the job.

Re:who is going to restructure NASA? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:34 · Score: 0

Fast-forward to the near future. A privatized ISS:

Management: "Yeah, well... if we win this here lawsuit, you'll get fed.

Crew: "Uhh..."

Managemet: "Don't you dare complain! Do you know how many minimum-wage AstroPepsiNauts we've got down here who'd kill to eat a Crud-O-Bar in space! Don't think you're special!"
Re:who is going to restructure NASA? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:57 · Score: 0

Brilliant. Laughed me arse off.
Re:who is going to restructure NASA? by OoSync · 2004-12-30 10:12 · Score: 1

let's sell NASA to a private company, maybe they would have the balls to continue into space and do their jobs instead of screwing around with politics and allow the engineers and scientists to do their jobs?

So why aren't there any private space stations again?

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Re:who is going to restructure NASA? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 12:21 · Score: 0

Ta.

One of those times I wish I'd not ticked that Post Anonymously box. :)

New sponsors by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:09 · Score: 0

Leggo my Eggo or Who's been drinking all the koolaid?

Re:New sponsors by stratjakt · 2004-12-30 07:44 · Score: 1

WHERE'S THE BEEF!?

Does the lameness filter not count as a restriction of free speech? Keep your opression to yourself, taco.

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Re:New sponsors by wavedeform · 2004-12-30 10:43 · Score: 1

Not koolaid, TANG!

not surprising... by sci50514 · 2004-12-30 07:09 · Score: 5, Funny

the previous ISS crew are Americ... never mind.... :)

Re:not surprising... by iocat · 2004-12-30 07:24 · Score: 2, Insightful

The previous crew were Gennady Padalka (RN3DT) and Edward "Fat Mike" Fincke (KE5AIT).
Reality is, it's easy to blame the last crew, but it might have been the cumulative effects of multiple crews' snacking.

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Re:not surprising... by AbbyNormal · 2004-12-30 07:39 · Score: 2, Informative

Now now, if you want to get technical, the previous crew consisted of 2 Europeans and 1 American.

See here" for more information.

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Re:not surprising... by Zak3056 · 2004-12-30 08:56 · Score: 4, Funny

The previous crew were Gennady Padalka (RN3DT) and Edward "Fat Mike" Fincke (KE5AIT).

Let me get this straight... they had a guy named Fat Mike aboard, and it took them this freaking long to determine that the previous crew ate the missing food?! One would think the obvious first question would be, "Hey Fat Mike, did you eat all the food on the ISS?"

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Re:not surprising... by geekoid · 2004-12-30 09:36 · Score: 0, Troll

He could be super thin...you know one of those nicknames that are the opposite of the truth?
like G.W "Brilliant" Bush.

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Re:not surprising... by jackbird · 2004-12-30 10:21 · Score: 1

I don't see "Fat Mike" anywhere, neither in TFA or in the page referenced in the grandparent, and google has no hits for "Fat Mike" Finke.
That having been said, take every other letter in his designation to get EAT.
Re:not surprising... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 12:02 · Score: 0

Those super thin guys are the champs at wolfing stuff down...
Re:not surprising... by iocat · 2004-12-30 17:07 · Score: 1

Yeah, it was a joke. His name is actually Edward "Mike" Fincke. I just changed it to be "Fat Mike" to be funny. Because they supposedly ate all the food. Get it? haha, lol, roflmao, ;), etc.
My personal guess is still that they're taking the blame for other teams' overeating as well.

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Re:not surprising... by lime1304 · 2005-01-01 19:04 · Score: 1

The skinny guys probably had empty wrappers lying around, eating 5-6 full meals a day while knowing "Fat Mike" would take the blame. Perfect!

damn capitalist pigs by adolfojp · 2004-12-30 07:10 · Score: 1

I bet that the russians are back home reading this article and saying something like damn capitalist pigs!

:-) Cheers,
Adolfo

Re:damn capitalist pigs by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:37 · Score: 0

Ya, except that it was the Russian commander who requested and recieved permission to eat the next crew's food, -and- who is said to have consumed the vast majority of what food was pilfered from the oncoming crew's stores.
Re:damn capitalist pigs by myowntrueself · 2004-12-30 09:12 · Score: 2, Funny

Yeah something like...

"Piiiigsssss iiiiinnnnn Spaaaaace!!!!!!"

(it just reminded me of that Muppets show...)

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I read this article YESTERDAY by Ma$$acre · 2004-12-30 07:11 · Score: 0, Offtopic

I'm all for the site earning enough to survive, but the information on /. is typically outdated unless it's really fringe.

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Re:I read this article YESTERDAY by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:48 · Score: 0

News from yesterday is not outdated, you update freak. A week ago, maybe, but not yesterday.

NASA LIED!!! The fat guy is blaming the previous! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:11 · Score: 0

NASA LIED!!! The fat guy is blaming the previous crew even though THESE guys actually raided themselves and did not record everything.

What a collosal con job.

did you SEE the video of these two (not SNL joke, the real photo) the heavier guy GAINED WEIGHT on this job!!! no kidding.

i am fat, but at least i would not lie and pass blame on previous crew.

Didn't think NASA got so lax by l2718 · 2004-12-30 07:11 · Score: 4, Insightful

The previous crew "had permission to [eat the food] but did not record how much they had eaten".

Used to be NASA was the most anal-retentive organization in the world. Their safety record and results were nothing short of amazing. Then they made the (right, IMHO) decision to do things more cheaply with the understanding that things won't always work out.

However, is this a good way to run manned missions?

Re:Didn't think NASA got so lax by mabu · 2004-12-30 07:31 · Score: 2, Interesting

I think it's naive to assume you can't be both anal-retentive and economical.

NASA's problem is that the organization has been orphaned by administrations that have no love for science, and it has therefore morphed into a political/business entity that is no longer capable of even accomplishing what it did in the 60s.
Re:Didn't think NASA got so lax by That's+Unpossible! · 2004-12-30 09:10 · Score: 1

No, NASA's problem is that it is built to run well if it has UNLIMITED PUBLIC FUNDS at its disposal, and it never was really re-worked to run well otherwise. Yeah, they cut costs, but they didn't do the other things that let real businesses excel.

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Re:Didn't think NASA got so lax by Tap-Sa · 2004-12-30 09:16 · Score: 1

Then they made the (right, IMHO) decision to do things more cheaply with the understanding that things won't always work out
Boeing, LM and the rest of pork barrel gang make sure that things won't be done cheaply but they are quite happy if NASA accepts that they don't even work. More to study, more to fix, more pork.
Re:Didn't think NASA got so lax by dabigpaybackski · 2004-12-30 09:54 · Score: 1

I say we threaten them with a Soyuz full of ramen noodles if they eat too much. That'll keep 'em in line.

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Re:Didn't think NASA got so lax by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 10:13 · Score: 0

Just remember, before you do anything, ask yourself: "Is this good for the company?"

Fat Mike ate all the food.... now there's a real humdinger.
Re:Didn't think NASA got so lax by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 18:34 · Score: 0

I think it's naive to assume you can't be both anal-retentive and economical.
I think it's naive to think otherwise. Every anal-retentive person I've worked with spent way to much time/money/whatever sweating insignficant details while things fell apart around them.

I told them.... by WerewulfX · 2004-12-30 07:13 · Score: 2, Funny

Filming the next season of "The Biggest Loser" there was a really bad idea!

Re:I told them.... by DrLZRDMN · 2004-12-30 07:26 · Score: 1

but they all lost so much weight...

Sounds like a bad roomate situation. by jzarling · 2004-12-30 07:13 · Score: 3, Funny

No ever ever drank my beer but it was always gone....

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Re:Sounds like a bad roomate situation. by WhatAmIDoingHere · 2004-12-30 08:20 · Score: 1

Sounds to me like you've been drinking already today.

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oh great by bludstone · 2004-12-30 07:14 · Score: 2, Insightful

This will do wonders to combat the stereotype of americans as lazy fatasses.

Unfortunatly, the stereotype is fairly true. Its a serious health epidemic.

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Re:oh great by eht · 2004-12-30 08:03 · Score: 1

Where is it said the previous crew was Americans?

This is the ISS, international Space Station.

The current crew that had to eat desserts and candy is Russian and US and they ended up losing a few pounds.
Re:oh great by Tablizer · 2004-12-30 08:07 · Score: 1

the stereotype of americans as lazy fatasses. Unfortunatly, the stereotype is fairly true. Its a serious health epidemic.

I think our weight problems are caused by hormones or chemicles in the food. In Beijing they use a lot of cooking oil and fiber-free rice, yet don't have the same weight problems. In Germany they eat a lot of fatty sausages, and places like France obsess on "good satisfying food". In fact Asian countries spend a lot of time and money on food.

Changes in my diet and excercize habbits have only minor affects on my weight. It seems the cause is something outside of our food or excercize routines. I once jogged every day for about a month and lost only 5 pounds. That payback is like a job that earns 50-cents-an-hour.

I know immigrants who had acne problems very soon after they stepped on shore in the US. There seems to be something fishy going on in the US. Some chemical or the like that researches ignore.

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Re:oh great by klang · 2004-12-30 08:18 · Score: 1

It's just recycling the drinking water that's the problem.

Are the weight problems the same all over the country or is it only in highly populated areas where the access to "used only once" drinking water is non existent?

Some girls find that they don't have their period, when they visit England .. too high hormone contents in the drinking water or something like that..
Re:oh great by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:18 · Score: 0

More likely it has to do with people eating more calories than they expend.
Re:oh great by jacksonj04 · 2004-12-30 08:56 · Score: 1

I think that's a piss poor excuse. The 'good satisfying food' and 'fatty sausages' are eaten as part of balanced diets, and are often exercised off. That and a lot more food is organically produced, especially in rural areas. Less processing, healthier lifestyles and nicely balanced diets have a lot more effect than exercising but not changing how you eat, or vice versa.

When I spent a couple of weeks in the states, without altering my eating or exercise habits I started to put on weight. I agree that it's the food, but only because the people are willing to eat a lot of, for want of a better word, crap.

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Re:oh great by fishbowl · 2004-12-30 10:09 · Score: 1

"Unfortunatly, the stereotype is fairly true. Its a serious health epidemic."

But it's not just an American phenomenon. I've seen plenty of obesity all over South America, in Canada, in Europe -- I'm certain that the fattest woman I have ever seen in my life was an Italian, and it seemed to me that entire towns in Germany were populated by rotund women and portly men.

I never have understood how the obesity finger gets pointed at the US. There are lardasses spanning the globe.

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Re:oh great by fishbowl · 2004-12-30 10:11 · Score: 1

>In Germany they eat a lot of fatty sausages, and
>places like France obsess on "good satisfying food".

I don't know about Beijing, but I've sure as hell seen plenty of fat natives in both Germany and France.

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Re:oh great by batemanm · 2004-12-30 11:30 · Score: 1

I think our weight problems are caused by hormones or chemicles in the food.
It's called corn syrup.
Re:oh great by Tablizer · 2004-12-30 13:30 · Score: 1

The 'good satisfying food' and 'fatty sausages' are eaten as part of balanced diets, and are often exercised off.

Europeans excercise more? Do you have evidence of that? Again, like I said, changing my excercise rate had a frustratingly minor impact on my weight. Eating tons more fiber and vegitables is not always a solution either. I know some bulky vegitarians. Besides, vegitables are hard on the lower intestine, and can make one fart a lot because humans lack enzymes to digest many parts of vegitables. Maybe in Europe they tolerate smell more?

Nobody can offer specifics which have a proven long-term track record, other than gun-point starvation.

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Re:oh great by Tablizer · 2004-12-30 13:37 · Score: 1

More likely it has to do with people eating more calories than they expend.

Unfortunately it is not that simple. The body tends to "count" food very carefuly, and if it does not get the rate it expects, it sends out red-alert warning signals known as hunger paigns. Further, the body will actually reduce its metabolism to maintain its "target" body fat. So if one goes from say 2000 calories per day to 1600 calories, the body will actually slow down its metabolic rate to compensate. Plus, you feel fucken hungry to boot, which is hiiiighly uncomfortable. In the end you might lose a small amount of weight, but STILL be extremely hungry.

Science is having a hard time finding a solution because there are too many backup systems and extra matoblism insurance layers that "feel" it is safer to be fat than skinney. 4 billion years of evolution is hard to undo with mere mental bondage and discipline techniques.

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Re:oh great by jacksonj04 · 2004-12-30 22:30 · Score: 1

Not specifically exercised as in "Oh, I'll go the the gym now" but exercised as in "Oh, I'll walk to the shops instead of driving" or "I'll walk instead of getting the subway". Partly because (in the UK at least) it's often quicker and more comfortable to walk than it is to rely on public transport.

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Re:oh great by Tablizer · 2004-12-31 06:50 · Score: 1

Partly because (in the UK at least) it's often quicker and more comfortable to walk than it is to rely on public transport.

So the solution to obesity is bad transportation infrastructure? That is a handy excuse for any politician who F's up a transportation project.

Note that walking in the city is often bad for lungs.

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Re:oh great by chainsaw1 · 2005-01-06 05:37 · Score: 1

No. Houston has huge sprawl and some of the worst public transportation of any city (only buses and a light rail that is hit by cars on a monthly basis) and still managest to not be known for fitness

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Meal in a Pill? by digitalghost1 · 2004-12-30 07:14 · Score: 1

What the hell don't they have a meal in a pill? Meat and Potatoes? That should be banned anywhere beyond 50 miles from the ground.

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Re:Meal in a Pill? by Chandon+Seldon · 2004-12-30 07:37 · Score: 1

"Food Pills" are a way more complex problem than you'd expect them to be at first glance.

In the food you eat every day, you need to get the following:

Raw calories. Protein. Vitamins and Minerals. Fiber. Eithor sufficient volume to dilute / use your stomach acid or antacids. Various other stuff that's less well known / studied.

Now, food pills would be an interesting and useful line of research, but that research would be best done here on earth where it doesn't cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to give the research subjects an emergency sandwich if a test fails.

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Re:Meal in a Pill? by stratjakt · 2004-12-30 07:46 · Score: 1

The DoD is currently testing a patch-type nutrient system for soldiers in the field, no actual eating required. Just like a nicotine patch, it keeps you "fed" intravenously for up to 24 hours.

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Re:Meal in a Pill? by Squatchman · 2004-12-30 08:03 · Score: 1

Can we keep the emergency sandwich in a glass case with a hammer-weight knife and fork hanging from it?
Re:Meal in a Pill? by Chandon+Seldon · 2004-12-30 11:27 · Score: 1

I can go 24 hours without food with only a bit of discomfort - I'm guessing that this patch will feel about the same as that except without the fall in blood sugar level.

I would further guess that if you tried to go for a week on these patches without food your digestive system would act up pretty bad - at very least you'd wish you had a bottle of tums.

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body mass by pedroloco · 2004-12-30 07:19 · Score: 1

"Both of us ended up losing a few pounds," U.S. astronaut Leroy Chiao said in a news conference from the station on Wednesday. "We looked at it as kind of a challenge, kind of a camping adventure, roughing it I guess."

Didn't Chiao and Sharipov lose more than just a few pounds by being launched into a microgravity environment?

And how do orbiting astro/cosmo-nauts determine their body mass? Seriously....

Re:body mass by jthayden · 2004-12-30 07:30 · Score: 1

You could take a known force and push them and measure the acceleration, which would then allow you to calculate their mass.

I don't know that they really care though, more likely is they just float around and don't care until they come home. It's kind of like when anyone takes a vacation, you don't weigh yourself while you're gone.
Re:body mass by fishbowl · 2004-12-30 10:05 · Score: 1

"I don't know that they really care though, more likely is they just float around and don't care until they come home."

But where will you find a tailor to let out the waist of your space suit? What if you fatten up enough that you can't buckle the crash webbing around you?

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dayum by WormholeFiend · 2004-12-30 07:20 · Score: 1

I was hoping they'd find space-adapted rats...

My roomates by Momoru · 2004-12-30 07:21 · Score: 2, Funny

This totally happened with me and my old roomates, thats why you gotta put your name on those food packets or Vladimir will totally eat your liquid potato chips when he gets high.

Re:My roomates by geekoid · 2004-12-30 09:33 · Score: 1

Someone drank all my soda!
Did they have your name on it.
No, but why is someone taking something they didn't bring? I mean If they didn't bring it, then they must know it is not theirs! the fact that they don't know whose it is is irrelevant.

Conversation I had after a whole six pack of code was gone in less then 2 minutes. At work.

The next day I brought in a dorm fridges any put it under my desk.

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Re:My roomates by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 10:09 · Score: 0

> Conversation I had after a whole six pack of code was gone in less then 2 minutes. At work.

So where do you get "six pack[s] of code"?

solution by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:21 · Score: 0

Perhaps NASA should invest in one of these. ;-)

News indeed by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:25 · Score: 1, Funny

Eating causes food shortage -- just news.
Eating causes food shortage... in space! -- news for nerds.

Dominos do we deliver? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:27 · Score: 0

Does the 30 minute rule apply? I mean pizza every night gets boring but it's better than nothing.

Interesting what was left by ewanrg · 2004-12-30 07:27 · Score: 4, Interesting

What I find interesting was that the previous crew hadn't snacked in the traditional sense - but had actually eaten more "good" food and left the snacks behind.

Which brings up the question of whether you get more cravings for calcium and protein as the body reacts to the effects of zero-g, or if it just says something about the preferences of the previous crew?

FWIW,
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Re:Interesting what was left by captainClassLoader · 2004-12-30 08:15 · Score: 2, Informative

ISS Astronaut Ed Lu has written an entire essay about food on the space station. Other sources indicate that microgravity seems to make everything taste bland - Hot sauces (and spicy foods) seem to be what a lot of the crew members crave.

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Re:Interesting what was left by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:38 · Score: 0

"What I find interesting was that the previous crew hadn't snacked in the traditional sense - but had actually eaten more "good" food and left the snacks behind."

I guess I don't figure it's that suprising. Who do we send into space? Who gets to be an astrnaut?

Only the smartest and most physically fit. These are not the people who sit around all day watching cheetos and eating TV.
Re:Interesting what was left by Etcetera · 2004-12-30 08:53 · Score: 1

Only the smartest and most physically fit. These are not the people who sit around all day watching cheetos and eating TV.

I most certainly hope not! We are not a nation of retards.

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Re:Interesting what was left by CrosseyedPainless · 2004-12-30 10:45 · Score: 1

You forgot the IRONY tag, and/or the smiley.
Re:Interesting what was left by LiquidCoooled · 2004-12-30 10:45 · Score: 3, Funny

I wouldn't want to be locked inside a sealed tin can with fellow crewmembers after curry night.

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Re:It is GW's fault. by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:28 · Score: 0

I agree, it is Bush's fault. He spent to much trying to free other countries, he could have been feeding our starving astronauts.

"Both of us ended up losing a few pounds" by beef+curtains · 2004-12-30 07:29 · Score: 1

I want to know how they managed that on a diet of candy & desserts.

I must be doing something wrong, because when I subsist on crap, my ass & gut get bigger.

I think there's best-selling diet book potential there.

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Re:"Both of us ended up losing a few pounds" by Squatchman · 2004-12-30 08:08 · Score: 1

They were probably exercising and keeping up with whatever their normal daily routines were. Since their bodies probably weren't getting necessary nutrients it makes sense. You can't lose weight by eating cheeto pies and slashdotting all day!

That's no refrigerator... by Gudlyf · 2004-12-30 07:29 · Score: 5, Funny

...it's a space station.

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Coming up next ... Donner Pass at Mars by __aaclcg7560 · 2004-12-30 07:30 · Score: 5, Funny

If the ISS crew can't be trusted to restrain their appetites, what's going to happen on a trip to Mars (where half the crew might be in suspended animation)? Donner Party Cookbook

Re:Coming up next ... Donner Pass at Mars by Squatchman · 2004-12-30 08:11 · Score: 2, Funny

At least half the crew will already be "on ice" for when they're needed.

Re:NASA LIED!!! The fat guy is blaming the previou by ackthpt · 2004-12-30 07:31 · Score: 1

NASA LIED!!! The fat guy is blaming the previous crew even though THESE guys actually raided themselves and did not record everything

It was probably that fat Pooh astronaut who got caught in the airlock after eating too much hunny.

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next season's.. by handmedowns · 2004-12-30 07:33 · Score: 1

Survivor in Space!!

The team that fixes Hubble first wins the food!!

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Next week on Survivor: ISS by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:34 · Score: 0

Sounds like Survivor... now, who will be voted out next week on, Survivor. "One of the other tribe-mates ate all the food; now we have to drink our own pee."

Don't they have the SPACE to store their food???

Re:News for nerds. From 2 days ago. by finkployd · 2004-12-30 07:34 · Score: 1

It jumped the shark, comment-wise, way before you even signed up for your current account. Before I did, for that matter.

I think it started right about the time I got my account. No coincidence I am sure.

Old Mother Hubble by mrux · 2004-12-30 07:34 · Score: 2, Funny

the previous ISS crew consumed food meant for the other crew. "They had permission to do that but did not record how much they had eaten".

Now THAT'S not rocket science.
Rocket science is for getting you to the empty cupboard.

This is really not news... by Turmio · 2004-12-30 07:35 · Score: 1

...but who would believe those dirty Russians so let's just call this a revelation today. Reuters aricle from the Dec 10th.

Goddamned roommates.. by Penguinshit · 2004-12-30 07:38 · Score: 1

Always drinking your last beer...

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Reminds me.. by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 07:41 · Score: 0

Reminds me of when I went on a cruise ship and the crew had to go on half rations because of me..

They said it was a buffet!

it's a training problem by belmolis · 2004-12-30 07:42 · Score: 3, Funny

This is obviously a training problem. Nobody showed them how to run the food synthesizer. They've been standard in Federation starships since the 1960s.

Re:it's a training problem by dabigpaybackski · 2004-12-30 09:59 · Score: 1

This is obviously a training problem. Nobody showed them how to run the food synthesizer. They've been standard in Federation starships since the 1960s.
Yes, but Mir is a Russian starship. The synthesizer only dispenses vodka.

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Re:it's a training problem by jlebrech · 2004-12-30 11:41 · Score: 1

mir is under the ocean its not the iss.

Thats how it goes at Nasa... by deft · 2004-12-30 07:45 · Score: 1

Wait, was it pounds or kilograms of snacky cakes?

Shit. This is why we never should have strayed from the universal "50 turns of our Queens stomach" measurement system.

jk, I love Nasa, just like smart ass remarks slightly more.

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Two words by saldek · 2004-12-30 07:48 · Score: 1

Space weevils!

So does this mean... by rewt66 · 2004-12-30 07:49 · Score: 2, Funny

It was a bean-counting error?

The previous crew... by ryanvm · 2004-12-30 07:51 · Score: 3, Funny

So was this the previous crew?

Re:The previous crew... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 20:50 · Score: 0

Doh !

Next mission by ch-chuck · 2004-12-30 07:54 · Score: 1

they're getting barrels of salt pork and crackers. That oughtta be enough for any crew, arrrr!

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In Soviet Russia by Guernica+Bill · 2004-12-30 07:54 · Score: 1, Funny

Speaking of 2004's jokes, In Soviet Russia, depleted ISS rations eat you.

That's what they always say by Tablizer · 2004-12-30 07:58 · Score: 1

the previous ISS crew consumed food meant for the other crew. "They had permission to do that but did not record how much they had eaten"."

Typical programming trick: blame all the problems on "bad code" written by the prior crew which has since moved on. The best scapegoats are those that are not around.

I remember after my boss retired, the accounting department started blaming all the problems in the new system on him. My boss had little or no say over both the existence and features of the new system, but since he had retired, he could be blamed without any way for anyone to verify the accusations, short of calling him from his retirement home. The accounting department blamed him as if he built the new system all himself.

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Re:That's what they always say by fishbowl · 2004-12-30 10:01 · Score: 1

> the previous ISS crew consumed food meant for the
>other crew. "They had permission to do that but did
>not record how much they had eaten".

Here I was with the notion that the mass of the station would be known to a fraction of a gram.

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Re:That's what they always say by ppanon · 2004-12-30 11:18 · Score: 1

That's the problem with retirements, they take jobs away from consultants.

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Re:That's what they always say by elecngnr · 2004-12-30 11:34 · Score: 1

Well, it was known. But then NASA messed something up in their converstion from grams to pounds....forgot to carry a one or something.

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What's that sound? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:02 · Score: 0

Oh right, it's crickets chirping

One word: Minibar by FarmerDave · 2004-12-30 08:02 · Score: 1

"Houston, $8 for a can of peanuts? WTF?" I can just imagine the two guys eyeing each other like in those old WB cartoons: one turns into a giant hot dog, the other into a giant hamburger....

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Re:One word: Minibar by mmegremis · 2004-12-30 09:46 · Score: 2, Funny

Haha, they probally take whatever they eat out of there own paycheck. Its like all the hotels you stay at, the complamentary fridge, but everything inside is extra. Welcome to ISS! We would like to provide you a varity of food and services while aboard our awsome space station. However, anything moved, touched, consumed, or damager will come directally out of your paycheck. However, this mission only, deserts and candybars are free!!

Hitchiker's Guide to the ISS by kalidasa · 2004-12-30 08:08 · Score: 1

The fabulously beautiful space station ISS is now so worried about the cumulative erosion caused by two visiting tourists a year that any net imbalance between the amount you eat and the amount you excrete while on the space station is surgically removed from your body weight when you leave: so every time you go to the lavatory there it is vitally important to get a receipt!

munchies... by putch · 2004-12-30 08:11 · Score: 0, Troll

i cant fault them. whenever i'm that high i ALWAYS get the munchies too.

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Slashdot Interview by delcielo · 2004-12-30 08:16 · Score: 1

Come on Taco! How about it? Can we get an interview with the ISS crew?

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My snacky cakes! by drtomaso · 2004-12-30 08:32 · Score: 1

...the previous ISS crew consumed food meant for the other crew.

Did Sally Struthers happen to be a member of the previous crew?

Re:It is GW's fault. by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 08:33 · Score: 0

At least sending food to astronauts is is arguably not Constitutionally invalid compared to bombing foreign nations that were no threat to us into faux "liberation" while running up an astronomical debt.

This was not an accident people! by stupidNewbie · 2004-12-30 08:38 · Score: 2, Funny

The Americans were testing the effects of Medical Marijuana in space. Consequently, it was necessary to measure how weightlessness affects the munchies. Of course they didn't remember how much they ate.. they were stoned. Dude... We're high *and* we're high! Now where did that freeze dried ice cream go?

Why not Grow Their Own? by Greyfox · 2004-12-30 08:45 · Score: 1

Why not set up a hydroponic section for beans and soybeans and stuff? That'd let the guys suppliment their diet with a good supply of veggies in case the last crew sucks in the food supply like a black hole.

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Now I get it... by coldmist · 2004-12-30 08:58 · Score: 1

Put this story together with the other Slashdot story earlier today about the Russians making the Americans pay for their astronauts (ie no more 'free ride'), and it all becomes clear....

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Houston, We have no food. by freeze128 · 2004-12-30 09:01 · Score: 1

"Oh Dang...
No Tang."

Deep Space Homer by elecngnr · 2004-12-30 09:02 · Score: 1

In a concurrent news release, NASA confirmed reports that the previous crew was filming a remake of the Simpson's episode Deep Space Homer. See http://www.thesimpsons.com/episode_guide/index.htm

When NASA officials learned about the food shortage, they replied, "D'OH!"

"Mmmmmmm, forbidden doughnut"--Homer J. Simpson

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Re:Deep Space Homer by managerWally · 2004-12-30 09:07 · Score: 1

they forgot to take apu to start a kwikymart there

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Private industry is your friend... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 09:25 · Score: 0

ROFLMAO,

Or maybe the new private management will just:
1: "right-size" away all those high priced scientists;
2: Outsource the rest of the jobs to India;
3: Sell all the rocketry components to third-world dictators;
4: File patent infringement suits against any country that tries to develop their own space program;
and last but certainly not least
5: Profit!

Meatcake by Ranger · 2004-12-30 09:26 · Score: 1

Too keep them from eating your food simply have them stock the larder with things only you will eat like sour cream herring or fruitcake ( though it's been rumored that fruitcake has been banned from orbit because it can survive reentry and used as a kinetic energy weapon. Or better yet put something unidentifiable in the food stores. As the esteemed philosopher George Carlin would say "Could be meat. Could be cake? It's meatcake!"

"Are you going to eat that?"

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if they had used a by geekoid · 2004-12-30 09:26 · Score: 2, Funny

rfid system, they could automate their inventory.

I'll be happy to design for free! As long as I can only do onsite repairs, and they pay for the commute.

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Outerspace weight log by DoctorHibbert · 2004-12-30 09:37 · Score: 1

Day 1: 0lbs Day 2: 0lbs Day 3: 0lbs Day 4: 0lbs ... You get the picture.

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So fat by DoctorHibbert · 2004-12-30 09:40 · Score: 1

They got so fat there were smaller fat astronauts orbiting them.

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some expensive minibar by peter303 · 2004-12-30 09:51 · Score: 1

At $10,000+ to deliver a pound of payload, that is some expensive minibar.

Obviously, you haven't seen the memo by hey! · 2004-12-30 10:05 · Score: 1

Dude you lost
get used to it.

Dude, this is what gettin' used it looks like. It's our turn to sit around complaining about the gummint.

It's your turn to sit around dreaming up ways to defend the indefensible.

Get with the program.

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its in your head by DoctorHibbert · 2004-12-30 10:18 · Score: 1

Double-blind studies can find no correlation between MSG consumption and physical reactions. But I doubt you'll believe it. One such study:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd= Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8282275&dopt=Abstract

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Re:its in your head by derrith · 2004-12-30 10:43 · Score: 1

I beg to differ. When I was younger (say around 9-11) I started getting really terrible headaches for no apparent reason. After being hospitalised several times because they were so painful, it was deduced that perhaps preservatives, such as MSG and Nitrites/Nitrates were the cause. I know exactly how to cause the symptoms to come on too. So I doubt that all cases are part of the mind's doing.

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Re:its in your head by ackthpt · 2004-12-30 11:06 · Score: 2, Interesting

Double-blind studies can find no correlation between MSG consumption and physical reactions. But I doubt you'll believe it. One such study:
All well and good for their population, but I do get migraines from food with MSG in it and it's a distinctive type of feeling I get from nothing else. I've nicknamed it 'the velvet hammer' because it initiates as a warmish sensation, like a warm soft hat pulled over my head, followed within minutes by an extremely painful and debilitating headache, which may last for more than 24 hours.
I have, what is regarded as an allergic reaction, which was not always so. I used to be able to eat foods, such as ramen noodles with no ill effect, but about 6 years ago I developed the migraines and made the connection. I've also developed allergic reactions to dairy and peanuts.

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Re:its in your head by chialea · 2004-12-30 11:28 · Score: 1

They don't find it in a general population. I, personally, would try it among the people who get real migranes from it (aura and the works). The "dry mouth" reaction might just be a taste thing, but I couldn't speculate, as I have to avoid it. I have had severe reactions to it without knowing it was in the food (how the hell do "nacho" chips have it as the 5th ingredient?!?!?), which I would take as a reasonable indication that it's not psychosomatic. Avoiding MSG and a few other things cut out my migranes entirely. (I do cheat, though, and eat some of the things I can have in moderation, which brings them to a controllable level.)

Lea
Re:its in your head by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 13:40 · Score: 0

That sounds exactly like a case of psychosomatic illness. You fear the MSG in the food you've eaten enough to give you headaches, thus "proving" to yourself that MSG gives you headaches. It does, but it's all in your head, as the previous poster said.

Of course, that doesn't make the headaches any better, and you're still going to be in denial, even if a dozen professors declare that your body handles MSG just fine.
Re:its in your head by BubbleDragon · 2004-12-30 16:18 · Score: 1

I personally don't get reactions to MSG, though I've had migraines quite frequently since I was about 6. MSG is a well known trigger for many people, and while the study is interesting, I find it a bit hokey myself - at least in relation to migraineurs, since it specifically mentions 'healthy people.' People who get migraines are very different. *shrugs* What really sucks about MSG is that it doesn't necessarilly have to be listed as such inthe ingredients. Sometimes (and I think this might be the case with Doritos) it's just "natural flavoring" or somesuch retardation.
Re:its in your head by derrith · 2005-01-01 04:02 · Score: 1

well, I was getting the headaches before I even knew what MSG was. How could I be afraid of something I didn't even know existed?

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I guess it was either that... by Incoming9000 · 2004-12-30 10:31 · Score: 1

...or someone forgot to lock the airlocks.

You can't be too carefull these days.

Re:Fun with eBay! by Starsmore · 2004-12-30 10:44 · Score: 1

What, no copies of The Incredibles, Polar Express, Blade III, Coach Carter, or Meet The Fockers included as a free gift for winning the auction?

Damn, eBay is slipping.

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This is Just to Say by durandal61 · 2004-12-30 11:01 · Score: 1

I have eaten the rations that were in the deep freeze and which you were probably saving for your stay Forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so cold

(Apologies to William Carlos Williams)

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Re:This is Just to Say by RFC959 · 2004-12-30 13:25 · Score: 1

LOL...and no mod points? The moderators are PHILISTINES! Seriously, though, there isn't any deep freeze on the station, or any refrigerator at all. Probably too expensive in mass and energy terms to be worth it.
Re:This is Just to Say by durandal61 · 2004-12-31 11:48 · Score: 1

Yup, jeez, a day or two later, story gone cold, and still sitting at Score 1. Anyway, I appreciate your comment, one worldly person is worth ten thousand mouth-breathing moderators. Well, by deep freeze I sort of meant a more Space-stationlike version of "ice box"... :-) Paul

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Simple test by jlebrech · 2004-12-30 11:46 · Score: 1

Here's a simple test for someone who hasnt usually got a problem with msg. what you do is buy a 100g sachet of MSG and make a soup with it, drink and let me know if your are alright.

So they found Elvis! by adeyadey · 2004-12-30 12:17 · Score: 1

Not a burger was left!

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2001 ... by kabz · 2004-12-30 12:53 · Score: 1

My God, it's full of ... oh, wait, it's empty !!

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Conversion problem? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-12-30 13:05 · Score: 1, Funny

Not enough food? I thought they had the imperial versus metric problem worked out by now.

Re:NASA LIED!!! The fat guy is blaming the previou by raehl · 2004-12-31 00:50 · Score: 1

the heavier guy GAINED WEIGHT on this job!!!

I wonder how much you have to eat in order to gain weight in space... must be a lot.

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Calories, Calories, Calories by bill_mcgonigle · 2005-01-02 14:59 · Score: 1

and this is why the Atkins diet works.

Actually Atkins works based on good-old-fashioned calorie restriction. Some other posts here talk about some of the low-glucose adaptation mechanisms, but that's an accomodation, not the vector for weight loss.

If there's a truth in weight loss it's "calories in minus calories out". Eating high-fat foods makes you feel fuller so you eat less. Maybe while hurting your kidneys, the jury's still out.

The one time I needed to drop 30 pounds I biked 60 miles a day and it came off in about two months, all while eating a fairly balanced diet. I know, I know, "my god, anything but exercise!"

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Hidden MSG Sources by bill_mcgonigle · 2005-01-02 15:07 · Score: 1

Here's a good page listing hidden sources of MSG. It's amazing - just about every prepared food outside of the Pergo'ed organic ai$le has some hidden MSG added to it.

There are also lots of natural sources of MSG. You can't get away from it, and you'll pry my soy sauce from my cold dead hands, but I see no reason to seek it out either.

Anecdotally, my friends who have gone on whole-food diets have lost significant weight - I can't tell if it's due to MSG reduction or just feeling more satiated from better foods.

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