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S. Korea Considers Using Armed Robots Along DMZ
Slicker writes "S. Korea and N. Korea (aka the ROK and DPRK, respectively) share the most heavily fortified border that has ever existed. Now the ROK is considering deployment of armed robots." Not expected until sometime in the 2010s. From the article: "Robots with weapons mounted on their frames are each expected to be able to observe from 2 and 1 kilometers during the day and night, respectively, and will have the capability to record voices and take pictures in a 180-degree circle."
From the article:
Remote-control sounds fine, but automatically? Do we have software capable of reliably distingushing between a civilian and an enemy combatant (at least as well as a human soldier can, anyway...)?
Doesn't sound like the best of ideas. Also from the article:
Seems to me that the South Koreans might be better off upgrading their fences and perimeters (proven technology) than putting their faith in autonomous killer robots (unproven, scary, incredibly risky sci-fi technology).
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"will have the capability to record voices and take pictures in a 180-degree circle."
Screw the armed robots, I just wanna see how they pulled this off!
Maybe they'll have robots in place by then, but it's more likely that Kim Jong Il will be dead or missing and the south won't have to worry about the north... Then again, who knows...
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Scenes from Robocop come to mind when the mech unit has a "glitch" and wastes a guy during the demo.
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Was anyone else really hoping that they'd look something like ED-209?
quote......Robots with weapons mounted on their frames...
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Does anyone REALLY think we are going to let N. Korea to continue to exist in it's current regime. By 2010, it will be loaded with nuclear weapons and we might even have a few American cities brought to ground zero from these weapons sold on the black market.
Please. N Korea is not going to last no more then another year or so. This whole article is a moot point
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The DMZ is a wildlife paradise --- hopefully the wildlife is not extinguished by armedbots because the wildlife merely moves throughout the DMZ. I would like to see the armedbots recognize the difference between human and animal before going robocop.
"There ought to be limits to freedom"
... but I wonder if sharks with laser beams attached to their heads wouldn't be an ideal device along armed robots to guard the coasts while robots care of the land.
A better bet is that by 2010, the principal problem on the Korean peninsula will not be the brittle truce between the two regimes, but the economic crisis caused by South Korea inheriting the crumbling husk to their north. That's a lot of mouths to feed.
Those robots, assuming the project isn't abandoned, will more likely be guarding the border with China instead.
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The robots were tested with larger .50 caliber machine guns as well as rocket and grenade launchers.
Isn't this solution a _little_ extreme? I think the koreans had a few too many hollywood action movies. Seriously fuck this is real life, not a simulation. Sure lets build robots instead of trying to cooperate. Now I am aware of how hostile those two nations are but I mean comon, once both sides have robots, what next? It will get worse before it gets better and I'm sure thats no surprise to slashdotters.
Everyone knows the DPRK uses tunnels anyway. At least robots can stand up to the axe attacks better.
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Build a robot with quantum logic and a spin of 1/2. Duh.
Gives the North Koreans a good 5 years to make robots of their own, or just make some good magnetic weaponry that can disable robots from a satellite or from a plane flying overhead.
North Korea is far crazier than South Korea, they are extreme about control, no doubt this "consideration" is either an attempt to bait them or a bad leak.
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I wonder how the 'social ethics' warfare will be effected by using autonomous robotic soldiers.
On one hand the people of a country using such robots could become less apposed to using military force against another country. That is, no longer will your son/daughter/friends be put in harms way.
However, for the people in the country being attacked, such machines would probably be seen as monstrous cold killing machines. Something that accidentally below away your 6 year old since it confused him/her for an enemy combatant.
You might be joking, or you might be serious, but let me take a stand for a minute and ask a serious question: Why is that the only thing that matters to you? And, please, if you're going to reply with "LOL OMG BSOD WILL KILL SOMEONE ROFL," save yourself the trouble and refrain from doing so. I'm very curious why you, and a number of other people, think that the only thing important is if a piece of technology runs Linux or not.
Remote-control sounds fine, but automatically? Do we have software capable of reliably distingushing between a civilian and an enemy combatant (at least as well as a human soldier can, anyway...)?
Well, no, but that wouldn't be necessary. I'm sure the robots would use some form of Identification Friend or Foe [IFF] method. I'm not saying those arne't foolproof but that doesn't really require any type of automatic target recognition (ATR) or image recognition software.
Note, I'm not saying that IFF makes these robots a great idea. I'm just pointing out that the idea isn't completely idiotic.
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So who else out there's read "The Second Variety"?
No one in Korea? Hm...Maybe we should send them a copy.
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Rediculous is ridiculous!
Please. N Korea is not going to last no more then another year or so.
They seem to have persisted pretty strongly these last few decades. Yes, they're the last Stalinist regime, propped up by foreign aid since they lack the resources or desire to take care of their own... but they have the one thing that will prevent an unprovoked invasion: weapinzamassdestrukshin. Anyone attacks, South Korea and Japan are dust. Which are unacceptable losses.
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I guess that's one way to keep people in your boarders.. set all robots to kill and go "you're now a citizen, try and leave and your plane gets targeted by the new MS-07B, good day sir".
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I know it's stuff out of sci-fi movies, but wouldn't a large electromagnetic pulse render the robots useless, leaving the DMZ wide open to a foreign military?
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How are they going to push anybody down from 2 miles away?
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Eh.
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So basically the options are:
a surpise all or nothing submarine launched premtive all out nuclear strike on all North Korean assets. The fallout from which will kill at least tens of thousands koreans, and chinese.
wait for north korea to start a war out of desperation
Peace, the price of which is essentially writing off the more or less innocent but indoctrinated North Korean populace.
I'd like to know more about the "aEgis robots" mentioned in the article. I wonder if this is a spinoff of the Aegis naval weapons system (Some kind of super-duper anti-air targeting/firing system) technology that US/Lockheed sold to S.Korea a few years ago?
South Korean troops deployed in the northern Iraqi city of Irbil used two aEgis robots mounted with rifles between November 2004 and February 2005 for surveillance, along with mine-detonating robots.
Sounds cool. Personally, I hope these Aegis robots look something like this.
I mean after all, it was laid out pretty clearly! Just go to the Skynet labs, retrieve the robot arm and futuristic chip, blow the whole building to smithereens, then throw the pieces (along with futuristic robot companion) into the vat of molten steel. Now the future of humanity will be spared. Boy, you guys are so freakin' stupid!
Hey, look on the bright side - M$ already control most of the world's machines - this would just be their method of ensuring you adhere to the EULA... (And I really want to play with the security holes - First I'll crack myself into an army, then I'll dDos the other side... Victory is Mine!)
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South Koreans don't have time to build robots, every single one of them is sitting in front of a PC clicking 100,000 times per second to become a starcraft champion.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
You can't build a robot out of prayers for dear leader. It takes industry. South Korea has a monopoly on that.
They should just use a bunch of pissed off ex-prisoners freed from North Korean captivity.
Really, why does the US perpetuate the Korean stalemate that has now produced a raving nuclear terrorist, while South Korean government subsidies provide their residents with telecom systems vastly superior to ours? I don't know about replacing our thousands of troops there with robocops, but that situation really is perverted, and clearly has solved nothing.
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Here is a link that describes the Talon robot and the SWORDS project a little more.
I wonder how much deterrence is the DMZ against people defecting to the north, and how many South Koreans would go to North Korea if there was no such barrier in place.
I really was expecting some sort of intrusion from the north as the reason to increase the DMZ's security, not the other way around. Was anyone surprised like me when reading the article?
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Seriously, it's a joke. We always ask if any new hardware will run Linux, remember?
Oh wait, they are.
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Anything that will ease tensions between North and South Korea is fine with me.
I think killer robot patrols are a great start, personally.
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...sort of take the "D" out of "DMZ"?
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"The robots will be remote controlled," said the South Korean ministry of defense. "Thus allowing for operational efficiencies far beyond what is possible today."
A reporter raises his hand. "You mean, you're setting up remote call centers?"
"Yes, we're outsourcing to China. There, thousands of workers costing us just pennies a day will patrol our borders with giant armed robots, thus fulfilling our defense needs and the needs of the Chinese population as expressed through their arts and animation."
"Any word on the North Korean Reaction?"
"Yes, and this brings better news." interjects the Ministry of Finance. "North Korea has decided to setup their own robot army and, being years behind everyone else, has decided to outsource to us for their remote defense needs. Now we could simply take their billions of pounds of rice and make a tidy profit," said the Ministry of Finance, "but South Korea is the most advanced nation in the world. We have decided to setup an online community of people willing to pay for the priviledge of protecting a theoretical Kingdom from invading barbarians, inside of a communial, multiplayer environment."
"A Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game?"
"Yes, a MMPORPG. A MMPORPG so grand it will make Lineage look like Everquest."
Everyone in the room laughs, except for the American who looks confused.
"And you too for just 15 dollars a month can be the last line of defense against a rampaging horde of demons. They're very expensive demons, funded by Satan himself. Demons who want to ravage your women, kill your pets, and give you low-paying jobs without benefits while preventing unionization.
"As border skirmishes are rare, won't this game be incredibly boring?"
"People pay to play Star Wars Galaxies, don't they?"
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From the article: "Robots with weapons mounted on their frames are each expected to be able to observe from 2 and 1 kilometers during the day and night, respectively, and will have the capability to record voices and take pictures in a 180-degree circle."
That's great and all, but if the robots can't also slip across the DMZ to play cards and drink beer with the other side then what good are they really?
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What they really need is a bunch of Bender units instead. Everyone might learn to lighten up a bit over there...
Sorry, it had to be said.
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I hate to say it, but using robots is dumb. The USA has the best hackers ever! We'll hack your robots and make them turn on you. Will it be running on Microsoft Windows? *grin*
Seriously, I think that if I was the country of North Korea, I would be arming myself to the teeth too. Imagine being the "different" kid on the block. All of a sudden, the big boy named USA decides to kick the snot out of the avarage sized boy called Iraq. This kid named USA is even taunting others, like your buddy Iran. The only other large kid who would have a chance in a fight with the USA is out with the flu, and it does not look like he'll be back any time soon. So what do you do? You start filling your pockets with rocks. You look for the biggest stick you can find. And you try and do it very quietly.
But back to the OP. Do we really think the USA is the only country that should show off its muscles? Should other countries be allowed to have the same level of military power?
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When the North has come
And they're threatening Seoul
And the States are the ony hope we see
No, I won't be afraid
Oh, I won't be afraid
Standing here, on my side of the
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* Robot, robot D-M-Z
By the D-M-Z
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'caus we know how much more effective fences & robots are against Nuclear weapons. :)
Some of the fences have rocks stuck into gaps, so that if the fence is bumped they will be dislodged and show possible intrusion. But there are no electric fences, nor electronic sensors and surveillance cameras. The ministry will discuss with defense-related research and operational commanders how to develop the new programs and will earmark budget funds for the programs in 2006.
They'll probably look like trash cans on wheels with poles sticking out.
Dr. Who won't be far behind.
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"Robots with weapons mounted on their frames are each expected to be able to observe from 2 and 1 kilometers during the day and night, respectively, and will have the capability to record voices and take pictures in a 180-degree circle."
Wouldn't 180 degrees be a semi-circle?
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Do you really think China would continue to prop up the US dollar and fund America's war machine if we pissed them off? China would kick our American asses back into the great depression for thinking about it. Considering America is:
- $8 Trillion dollars in debt
- Dependent on foreign loans, primarily from China and Japan because our leadership can't balance a f'ing checkbook
- Dependent on China/Korea/Tiawan to manufacture all our fancy electronics, cloths, consumer goods, and well... everything else
Then yes, I do think N. Korea will continue unhindered by American interference.I thought they robot patrolling in Israel.
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This is waste of money, and it certainly will be too 'dodgy' to deploy (one mistake could cause incredible mess).
Will it leave it's post to find Sarah Conner?
Target anything that moves and doesn't have a valid RFID signature.
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Dealing with lawyers would be a lot less tedious if they all looked like Casey Novak.
There are two ways to run these robots, either by remote control or automatically. If you run them by remote, then all the enemy has to do is to hack your control signal and control your robot themselves. If the DRM/anti-DRM skirmishes have taught us anything it's that all signals can be hacked if there's enough will on the part of the hacker. If they run the robots automatically, then they're asking for an even bigger disaster, since robots today have enough trouble telling a soccer ball apart from a field. There's basically no way they'd be able to distinguish a friend from a foe. Even if you made your uniforms easily recognizable, the enemy could just start wearing those uniforms too and walk on by. So, if you then give up and put the robot into "shoot anything that moves" mode, you've basically reinvented the landmine, only now it's standing up in the middle of the field where anyone can see it with binoculars, and easily call for an artillery hit before they walk through the area.
Dumb idea.
wouldn't it be quite easy to imitate a wild animals to bypass robot security? if that's the case do u think n. koreans are more of the "kill 99 innocent men along so that 1 guilty man be punished?" or "free 99 guilty men, so that 1 innocent man won't have to die?"
for some reason, i dont think the understand the former philosophy too much.
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I know this is a technology centric website but let me say, as someone who has worked in the military with pretty high-tech gear, you guys are overestimating military technology. Some of you out there might say "But I seen military technology work all the time." Well that's nice, but I've seen how the triumvirate of scientist/engineer contractors, military officers and shitty technology can come together to make a terrible economic and time wasting mess.
I state the overestimation for a number of cynical reasons:
1. A lot of military technology doesn't get tested in warlike situations or complex terrain and when the technology is put into 'war-like' operations or complex terrain it doesn't live up to its hype. Bureaucracy also plays a part in slowing down projects and making them unrealistic.
2. Hyping the machine. This is what military officers and the contractors do. They hype up the technology to whole new bullshitting levels. The officers do it for their promotions and careers and the contractors do it for the money.
The terminator scenario won't happen for a very very long time.
Besides, all Il has to do is lob a nuke over the border (And he would, too) and all your robots get fried by the EMP. You can pretty much bet that if he decides to invade, you'll be stuck fighting a footsoldier battle in fallout.
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Bring a few cans of WD-40. Looks like they are assembling this thing out in the open! No building to put it in!
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By calling these machines "robots", we imply that they're autonomous and mobile. But from the article, they will be placed every kilometer along the border. And there is no mention of autonomy.
These are more like remote-controlled guns with video cameras. Maybe they'll be mounted on telephone poles. No new technology really needed here - it could be built with 1970's tech.
The driver here is not to have a more effective border patrol, but to free up lots of troops so they can spend time training rather than guarding the border.
The Japanese failed to surrender after the dropping of the first bomb--it took two bombs to bring them to the table on our terms.
The fact that we were temporarily able to intimidate the Russians surely was also a factor, but I don't believe that it was the over-riding rationale.
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Agreed. Perhaps many Slashdot readers don't really understand what the DMZ is like. In the 1980s and 90s, live ambushes were a fact of life along the DMZ (they may still be, but I'm no longer in the Army so I don't have inside info about it). The North Koreans for decades have poked and prodded the border: They've sent infiltrators into South Korea, have created elaborate tunnel systems below the DMZ, and attempted to assassinate the South Korean president, among other provocations. Troops stationed along the DMZ for good reason keep an extraordinarily high state of readiness. Over 100 Americans have died along the DMZ since the armstice (I don't have figures for South Korean soldiers).
So while from the comfort of Ft. Livingroom, it's easy to say that using armed robots to patrol the DMZ is a bad idea, the soldiers on the ground are probably pretty happy about the notion. That's not to say that the robots will work as advertised, or that they should replace existing defenses. The South Korean government may be motivated by cost considerations, but if the end result is that fewer South Korean soldiers are likely to die in the line of duty, it seems worth trying out some form of automated defense.
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"... Robots with weapons mounted on their frames..."
"... will have the capability to record voices..."
So, these killer robots will be recording the screams of their kills? I can just imagine it back at the barracks.
R. Champlis 03872: Check this one out I got today.
-Recorded voice sreaming in agony-
R. Smith 53975: Oh that's nothing. Check out THIS one.
-Recorded voice of a blood curdeling scream.
R. Smith 53975: Now THAT's a kill.
I for one welcome our sadistic killing machine overlords (sorry).
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In Korea, nothing will happen to old people, because there won't be any. Robots will kill them young.
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Actually, at a point not terribly far north of Seoul, only military (and resident) traffic may pass. There's still people that work the fields and whatnot, (the Koreans are damn good at farming any remotely flat chunk of land) and people that go on tours of the DMZ.
I actually had to go up there recently, and noted that there was quite the impressive collection of wildlife running around (especially given that I'm stuck in Seoul, where pigeons are about all you see)
That being said, a real easy way of IDing friend or foe: assuming you can track every humanoid, the ones that started on the other side of the border, are definitely foe. The ones that entered the field of vision on this side, need to be kept under watch.
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...."South Korea plans to outsource DMZ Robot customer service to India, China and Canada. South Korea is also considering plans to outsource 24/7 remote pilots for the robots some time in the next year. Our sources say it's likely the remote operations contract will go to a small town in Honduras, who are so hopped up on cocaine they never sleep. More on this as information becomes available".... ..."This just in...the small town in Honduras offering 24/7 pilot services has decided to change their name to "Skynet". More on this story as it progresses"....
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The main justification given by the US for its refusal to join the civilized world and give up land mines is that they are needed in the DMZ. If robots replace land mines, will the US finally agree to the land mine ban?
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Others contend that Japan had been trying to surrender for at least two months, but the US refused by insisting on an unconditional surrender--which they did not get even after the bombing, the bone of contention being retention of the Emperor.[13] (http://www.nuclearfiles.org/hitimeline/1945.html) In fact, while several diplomats favored surrender, the leaders of the Japanese military were committed to fighting a 'Decisive Battle' on Kyushu, hoping that they could negotiate better terms for an armistice afterward--all of which the Americans knew from reading decrypted Japanese communications. The Japanese government never did decide what terms, beyond preservation of an imperial system, they would have accepted to end the war; as late as August 9, the Supreme Council was still split, with the hardliners insisting Japan should demobilize its own forces, no war crimes trials, and no occupation. Only the direct intervention of the Emperor ended the dispute, and even after that a military coup was attempted to prevent the surrender (although it was easily suppressed).
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Actually if I were the South Korean's I would do this. You have a buit in test site. You have a incredible industry. You have a business opportunity! You now get the 5 tigers into the arms business and further diferenterate yourself from the Chinese. And who in North Korea (or for that matter South Korea) can complain!
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.. goes to the parent. Notice how the grandparent talks specifically about civilians.
A Friend/Foe identification requires all participants to carry some sort of transponders, and can at best recognize friends, and just cannot recognize civilians at all, and in addition it cannot recognize South Korean reinforcements that might be moved into the area, since such reinforcements would have no transponders that the regular border troops might have. Also you might want to switch your transponder off in combat since it gives away your position to the enemy.
A better argument would be that human troops cause friendly fire too, so that it doesn't make much difference.
I'm still trying to figure out what people mean by 'social skills' here.
It depends on how spread out the ships are. But yes, you are correct. A few low-yeild tact nukes on cruse missles would take care of the job. And if your luck enough to have all the ships close togeather, just one 80+ MT Hydrogen bomb will due the job.
Ever wonder why so many nuclear testing was done using an old feet of ships? In fact, they even tested nukes on subs. The hydrostatic shockwave will CRUSH anything that is filled with gas like paper cup in your bare hands.
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The new generation of South Koreans are f---ing whiny ingrates. The US should be completely off the Korean peninsula, with a nuclear umbrella treaty. The US presence is only a small percentage of the force anyway, and all I ever hear is the Euro-style whining about it. Pull back and redeploy.
Same goes for Germany and Okinawa too.
A dramatic accident happened in South Korea when a software glitch caused the death of 10 people and the injury of 15 others....
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Actually according to a show on the history channel I watched a while back. The US knew that Japan was trying to surrender, but the cold war had already started brewing and Japan was trying to surrender to Russia and not willing to surrender to the US. That would have turned Japan into a Russian colony, something we wern't willing to accept. Thus the continued attacks untill they surrendered to the US.
no. after that comes clone soldiers. They respond creatively to problems.
than to replace miles and miles of fences, layers deep, in mine infested terrain.
the aEgis robot looks like a pretty straight forward design.
Perhaps automatic targeting can be enabled only when a large number of infiltrators have been detected and verified by a human operator.
It's amazing how easily one can fool high tech equipment with low tech techniques and tricks. What did the Iraqis 1990 to fool heat sensors? They put camping methane burners inside tank decoys to attract missiles. And guess what? It worked great!
How do you fool robots? What about airplanes dropping huge loads of water on them? They may be isolated against water, but think of all the mud all around: that could easily render them useless. And who said it has to be water? What about acid? You get the idea.
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I guess nobody noticed the ocean surrounding North and South Korea. The "fortified border" is utter bullshit when THE NORTH KOREANS CAN SWIM AROUND IT.
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Now they'll have the robots by next year!
Yes, it crashed me as well. Not sure what that is about. Maybe the extensions that I have installed?
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Korea was occupied with one Japanes army in the North and antoher in the South. The Northern general surrendered to the Russians and the Southern genreal surrendered to the United States. The Kurril islands of Northern Japanese were taken by force by the Russians and remains occupied by Russia today.
The DMZ is definitely civilain free, except for a few small areas where a special class of dual-citizens live and farm. I'd really be nervous to live there... Clashes between heavy machine guns often flare up betweent he two sides, all along the DMZ.
I don't know what sort of alternate reality the poster is from, but in my world circles are comprised of 360 degrees. Or maybe the Koreans are cutting costs by dividing circles into half as many segments.
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The robots will see in a "180 degree circle". That wil truly be a feat.
Seems the USA tried this in ' Nam ' with the detectors outside camps.
Didnt work! If humans struggle to assess a threat how's software going to do it?
Sounds like there running out of ideas over there. Bob
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I think that calling these things robots is little more then a public relations ploy. The Korean Government is more likely to appove large appropreations for this project if the guilible masses think they'll have a marching army of robot warriors on the front line.
From reading the article it sounds like these are actually little more then an automated defense perimeter. These will be simply replacing the manned patrols that are likely very expensive and not as effective.
Actually the idea of an automated defense perimeter is SO much cooler then robots. To demonstrate let me reconstruct an invasion senario using Dune 2000. North Korean "Freeman" Units against the rocket towers and walls of the South Korean Troops.
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On the other hand, if the US was not indebited to other nations, would they be more likely to feel obligated to build up a military to rival that of the US? It may be that US military power is partly counterbalanced by economic dependence. The result is a sole superpower that can keep do most of the military heavy-lifting when the UN decides its necessary, but that is effectively powerless against its creditors.
All we have to do over the next few hundred years is complete the corporate take-over of the US government and then have China acquire it in a massive merger.