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Firefox Site Visits Up 237%
prostoalex writes "Nielsen//NetRatings, a top Web reporting and metrics agency, started tracking the Firefox Web site in June 2004 and has announced 237% growth since then. Nielsen tracks Firefox Web site visits, not downloads or usage patterns, but it notes that "Men accounted for 71% or nearly 1.9 mln site visitors, compared to the women who comprised 29% or the minority population who visited in March 2005.""
But that's just me clicking reload a lot.
Does this take into account of the auto software update checks?
And how does NetRatings know the gender of the visitors? Maybe if a visitor is quick and direct, it's a male; If a visitor is browsing around few sections back and forward, it's a female?
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Keep those figures going for a couple of years and then I'll be impressed.
When is it going to stop being cliche' and just be fact... women are not as interested in technology as men, be it cars, home theater, or computers?
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Is this all that suprising? We all see how much press the wonderful Mozilla Foundation has been getting as of late.
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The most popular browser/OS combination to my sites (which are Unix-oriented) is Firefox/WinXP.
Firefox/Linux is actually in second place. IE of various flavours on Win32 is third.
Certainly not what I expected to see before starting the sites, that's for sure -- but it's roughly the same mix on each one.
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In one year's time, 1 million growing to 2 million (100% increase), or 1 growing to 10 (1000% increase)?
They're talking about visits to the Firefox site, nothing to do (directly) with browser market share.
This article is about visits to mozilla's website, not people using mozilla browser.
In the nine months during which Firefox has "taken the Web by storm", they haven't even tripled their visitors? Is everyone installing it by apt-get/rpm? Starting from such a small base, that tiny multiple would really disappoint me if I were hoping for a real scale-up. Is anyone impressed by these numbers?
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I don't understand why everyone is so angry. I think we should all be happy that there is a strong alternative to IE and that its gaining ground. Competition for IE means inovation, and regardless of how pissed off you are about whatever, thats a good thing.
So put that in your pipe and grep it
As a consultant/techie, every machine that passes through my domain is converted to FireFox.
For the slower win32 boxes I use k-Meleon.
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/start/
So the people who visit the Firefox web site are increasingly users of the Firefox web browser. Simply shocking!
To see if spyware/virii infestations of Firefox has kept pace with its acceptance both as a way to see how much of Internet Explorer problems are nescient to the application as well as to get an idea of what the future holds for Linux security as the operating system gains traction on desktops (i.e., are these things attacked because they're vulnerable or because they're popular?)
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With all the updates and patches and extensions and themes I'm sure my *own* traffic has gone up that amount. How about comparing the number of users instead of an unqualified percentage with very low relevance?
Well anyway, I often miss the X an hit the firefox logo, which takes me to the Firefox home page. Aha! So lots of MEN have been going to the Firefox page, huh? I wonder why! We're missing the X in the upper right corner while looking at pictures on the internet!
I didn't realize my browser reported whether I was male or female as part of the browser Id string!
Neilson has connections to a few very high traffic sites and they either A)allow them to view the statistics on their logs, or B)allow them to put a 1x1 gif on their website for usage stats.
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Most important to me, once a page is loaded, accessing it is instant in Opera. Say you click on several links. You can go "back" any number of pages and each one instantly appears, without reloading or any of that inconvenient stuff. No other browser currently does this, whether it be Firefox, Safari on OS X, or anything else I've tried. Opera is the only one, and incidentally, I use this a lot. Once you get used to a feature like this, it is extremely difficult to switch browsers, no matter what the advantages of the other product.
Also, I like the keys you can push in Opera. "z" takes you "back", "x" takes you "forward"... This is a lot easier than remembering all those weird key modifiers, alt, meta, option, control, or whatever, with various arrow keys, to go back and forward.
Like I said, it's an efficient browser.
Let's do a random sampling of 250k users via phone (to verify validity)
The sample would be statistically significant at far, far fewer users than that...think 1500 or so.
IE is the "girlie browser".
There has been a lot of news about Firefox's steady increase in the number of users. I personally wouldn't be surprised if it reached 15 percent by this time next year.
Just use ctrl + F4 to close the current tab! much less distracting than using the mouse!
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Besides, my web site had 1000% growth, I went from me viewing it to a few relatives looking at a picture I put up from them (40% female, 60% male), so, obviously, my website is faster growing that firefoxes!
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You'll often find this task is accomplished by "web bugs", tiny 1x1 .GIF images that have no purpose other than to go to a third party to indicate the page was viewed, by what IP address, etc. They'll frequently try to give you cookies, too, in order to study browser habits. (I always block these cookies when requested, just to be obstinate.)
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That little "close" X is mere pixels away from a "visit firefox" button... :)
Seriously I hit it by accident all the time.
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about:config > user.chromosome.autodetect Boolean, of course.
But... how are you clicking the links without the mouse? I find it a lot easier to use a mouse-only approach. Are we talking about the same "internet picture hobby" here?
Except you simply cannot get accurate statistics on browser usage that way. Oh sure, lots of people try, and lots of people publish their results, but it's all built on a foundation of sand. The web just doesn't work that way.
I can't seem to find a description of Neilsen's methodology, but if they are reporting male:female ratios, then they are using data beyond things like web bugs, and so I would be inclined to trust these figures far more than other organisations, including any data we could cull from our own log files.
I actually started a discussion on the sex determination of visitors sometime ago on my crazy ideas blog. You may want to read/contribute .... would be interesting though to figure out the gender of the visitor.
:-).
Guess they just stole some idea from there for this statistic
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CTRL+W, you mean? CTRL+F4 closes the entire window.
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At Network Mirror I'm showing 79.4% Mozilla, 18.9% IE. Since all traffic is Slashdot derived, it's probably a pretty good representative sample of the Slashdot population as a whole.
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"Men accounted for 71% or nearly 1.9 mln site visitors, compared to the women who comprised 29% or the minority population who visited in March 2005."
The study also reported that nearly 71% of the men were visiting sites promising 100% women.
If you use Konqueror and you're bothered by servers tracking your gender, it's quick and painless to disable this reporting. Just click on:
...and in the "Default Identification" panel, uncheck the box labeled "Add gender information".
Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Browser Identification
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Why is the sex of a computer user important? Is the next firefox update give a choice of pink or blue coloring?
That's an interesting statistic. In my Cisco Networking class, there are no female students at all, though our teacher is a woman. The situation is similar in the other computer classes at my school. Does anybody know why this distribution happens?
...And I feel the compulsive need to point out TFA's incorrect use of "comprise."
Esoteric reference.
ALT+F4 closes the window. Ctrl+F4 on KDE just moves to Desktop 4.
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Just curious.. how do they know when man is surfing compared to a women? or a goat..
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Please, please, please. No more "Firefox is gaining ground" stories until we have some solid numbers, not some contorted gee-whiz stats.
The website I work for, a very large, very traditional 'user-facing customer portal' for a telco, now officially supports IE6 and Firefox 1.0. The announcement came last week. A year ago, we couldn't even get them to acknowledge that firefox EXISTED, much less provide full support for it.
And why did it happen? Tons of customer feedback directly on the site, and metrics showing that firefox use was climbing. Rapidly. And here i thought those 'feedback forms' wouldn't actually lead to any change.
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Hi, Dr. Moron!
You might have a valid point if the article was talking about market share being up 237%; or even if it said that Firefox usage was up 237%. However, it wasn't-- it was talking about visits to the firefox site. Oops.
BTW, if we're talking about visits for your site, it looks like visits by firefox users are up 225% for your site in that timespan-- from 2293 to 7452.
You can visit the Nielsen-NetRatings site and bone up a bit, and if you want, grab a a PDF of their corporate brochure which mentions that their techniques include the usual image tag bugs, but also techniques just like they use when they do TV ratings: interviews with "recall" information, journals, and other (for us web folks) seemingly unlikely approaches. It's all about doing sanity checking against traditional (and easily polluted) web stats. Big companies like to have their facts audited and tested by alternate methods, and Nielsen's been doing it for a long time with other hard-to-measure stuff.
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This is the default for Firefox 1.1. I think da laydeez and da fellaz will be down with it.
...isn't it? Firefox 1.0 was accompanied by a big download push, where techies actively encouraged mom, dad, sis, gramps, dog, and everyone else they could think of to get and install Firefox.
Thing is, Firefox defaults to the Firefox website! So you had a huge push to download and install firefox, and people being what they are (lazy), a whole bunch of firefox installs all pointing at the firefox website everytime they fire up. Let's see how this trend continues for another year or so before we get uber excited.
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After comming out of beta and all that publicity... just over double? So it comes down to us geeks who've been using it since beta, plus one or two family members we convinced? Not even that if Neilson decided to count upgrades and theme/extention visits. For all I know of stats, they could've even included http://www.google.com/firefox
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What I'd like to know is how the see the balls. Or perhaps I don't want to know...
Um, no. Neilson bought RedSheriff last year. RedSheriff is a web analytics and data collection service that many sites pay for. The site would drop a piece of code onto their pages, including some Javascript, Java applet and a 1x1 gif.
From there the site owners would have access to an online reporting tool that is quite good.
AFAIK, RedSheriff didn't share or use their customers' site traffic logs for any purpose other than to report back to the site whose logs they were. Nielson may have re-jigged their privacy policy to allow it.
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I don't seem to remember anything in the HTTP browser string that would indicate it. Where is that information coming from, and how are they collecting it?
Someone should to write a virus that exploits a vulnerability in IE and installs Firefox on the user's machine and sets it as the default browser. That would solve (at least temporarily) a major issue IE has with security!
The biggest impact Firefox will have on web development is it will increase the cost of entry into run-almost-anywhere scripted websites.
Note that I'm not saying this is bad or that there aren't good effects Firefox has (in fact, I believe it is a great browser). Just that the biggest impact on *development* is it will increase the cost of entry on scripted sites.
This may be a good or bad thing. When the web first started, it was possible to be an "HTML Expert" by doing layouts with tables. I kid you not. This was advanced at one time and people had to figure out how to do it.
With browsers having pretty much settled down (meaning that Microsoft stopped releasing new browsers and 90% market share belonged to Microsoft), the wealth of knowledge on HTML coding has grown considerably. It was hard to be an *expert* at HTML or Scripting because everyone had done it before. That said, there are some truly brilliant people at sites like QuirksMode.
Now I feel that the new direction that uber-coders are going for is *useful* DHTML scripting (also known as JavaScript, Cascading Style Sheets and the Document Object Model to manipulate HTML live). By useful, I don't mean a cursor with a trail of stars. I mean things like popup calendars for date selectors, rich text editors, GMail and WYSIWYG page editors with live previews.
DHTML is still hard and mostly poorly documented. Anybody who has made a rich text editor for MSIE knows that it isn't too bad anymore. There is more documentation on how to do it. Definitely not *a lot* but enough that you can find your way through it.
Try this though: Make an iframe window that simulates a regular window. Okay. Now do it so that is supports MSIE, FireFox and Safari. If you want to (eventually) support more than 75% of the market, you have to support FireFox now and I'd throw Safari on the list as it is the default browser (I think) on the Mac.
Some of the toughies are the event handlers for these browsers which are quite different. I've written code to make them both work with one code base but there is virtually no documentation on this. There are dozens of quirks not listed and the only way you can figure 'em out is through trial and error.
Okay, I know I haven't covered all my bases in making this argument, but I think the smarts you will need to be an uber-coder for DHTML just got harder. This is good because there is room for new experts. If you are a great coder, there is a chance to be a brilliant cross-browser DHTML coder. If you are strictly average (nothing wrong with that), your job may have got harder.
Ironically, code re-use on JavaScript seems to be very low.
By the way, if you need evidence that cross-browser DHTML is hard, it even took Google a while to get Firefox compatible with GMail. Think how much cash they've got.
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It looks like there's a lot of confusion about the gender data gathered, mostly along the lines of "How'd they do that?"
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I know it sounds crazy, but I went ahead and visited the the Nielsen site and read up on their strategy. I realize this goes against the techie tradition of never RTFM, but that's a risk I was willing to take.
Turns out they use a "holistic" approach to their data gathering. Everything from "server side blabbity-blah blah blah" to conducting surveys, hiring people to browse, and tracking ad clicks.
I'm guessing that the gender comes from the surveys, but I don't want to upset anybody who might be really excited about a new gender-aware version of HTTP.
If you want to read up on this stuff yourself, you can check out some info here:
http://www.nielsennetratings.com/mktg.jsp?secti
Click on a few products to see the range of apps/services offered. You'll see where all this data comes from.
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Damn straight. I was one of the doubters several years ago believing no open source project would ever have the resources needed to produce a product that could reach market acceptance. Not anymore. It's a full-on full-featured product. The university I attend has installed it next to IE on their classroom stations. To sum it up in several words, it kicks ass.
The RSS integration is the biggest draw for me right now, Safari doesn't have it. (Mac user).
Those statistics seem about right, considering the previous articles posted here:
7 250 3 215
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http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/11/02
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/26/19
One day.
I wonder if this has to do with Google pre-fetching from Mozilla and Firefox that begins to get the top search results before you click on it. I think that could easily significantly skew the results, especially because this isn't done with other browsers.
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Actually, middle-aged women are a huge constituent of online gaming. You just hear less hype about online games that involve dominos and cards rather than the latest Q3 or EQ clone.
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How can they say that they've been monitoring for 9 months, and then state that it has 278% year over year growth?
You can't. Maybe that's why they dont! So now you can just make stuff up, refute it, and get modded insightful?
Besides, my web site had 1000% growth, I went from me viewing it to a few relatives looking at a picture I put up from them (40% female, 60% male), so, obviously, my website is faster growing that firefoxes!
Yes, that's true. What's your point?
My ex-wife was a fiery fox and she took everything. Free browsers are all I have left.
What other populations exist, exactly? Transvestites? Monkeys? Martians?
Goo goo g'joob.
why let that get in the way of an open-source victory party?
But seriously, Firefox is fantastic and more accolades are coming soon.
How many early technology adopters are women? I'd bet it's below 20 or even 10%. What percentage do you know are running a *Nix box at home?
Just another indication that FF is going mainstream. Yay!
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How many of these people are using Firefox? How many go there to convert?
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Touché. :-)
OK, then only the smart people use the mirrors. :)
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Yet when you send in a report about a security flaw in OpenOffice that affects possibly everyone who uses it, the story gets rejected - woo! :)
Love em.
I program professionally, and so, I do what the paying customers want. Often that involves Windows. Don't worry, I am actively doing both x86 and ppc Linux stuff too.
I book revenues programming whatever "they" want, and you know what? All computers suck.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
They can probably use cookies and web bugs to establish useage patterns that they correlate to machine/browser combinations. While not perfect, it may allow you to make demographic estimates within some acceptible margin of error. You could combine that with other sources of data, such as samples of people that voluntarily answer demographic questions when asked.
The "cue the foo posts in 3, 2, 1..." posts will commence with no subsequent foo posts in 3, 2, 1...
Seing 237%, did you think that the traffic had doubled or tripled?
The right answer, it more than tripled.
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Do people not keep .plan files anymore?
I once looked at a list of mutual funds on Yahoo that had the highest YTD returns. I couldn't believe how all these funds had like 400% returns in a year when the indexes went down. Closer inspection showed that the funds went from $0.01 to $0.04 and the like. Stats like that don't necessarily mean anything.
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12 months ago, IE accounted for a steady 94% of hits. Gecko-based browsers (Netscape 6+, Mozilla, Firefox) accounted for 3%. Netscape 4 had around 1.5% of the hits, Safari just under 1%, Opera about 0.5%, and Konqueror 0.1%.
Firefox started registering in my logs around July, when the Gecko share jumped to 4.3%, rising steadily to 5.7% in October. In December Gecko jumped up to 7%, and is currently around 8.2% (March-April). Firefox now represents about 80% of Gecko-based browsers. The number of non-Firefox Gecko hits (ie. Netscape 6+, etc) has remained more-or-less steady.
IE's decline matches Firefox's rise - by October, it was down to 92%. IE now rates around 87% of hits on our site.
Safari has increased to about 2.5%. Netscape 4 has (finally) declined to virtual insignificance. Sadly, Konqueror has also declined steadily, maybe 0.03% in a good month (looks like a lot of Konqueror users have switched to Firefox too).
These stats come from an Australian state government website that receives about 3 million hits per month. The site is not technology-oriented, and about half of the hits come from overseas, so I believe that this is a reasonably good sample of browser use.
How the hell do they know if its men or women visiting. I guess adware running on those users systems. I think companys should be arrested just for publishing findings like that
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that's right, what's your point?
Advanced users are users too!
They should link this up to the information that Intuit provides on taxes... Or not... ;)
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Here's something even more astounding: Firefox usage is up more than 50,003.55% since 2001.
It's also up more than 12.34% from 2000, but more than -111.00% from 1999.
Hmm. What does ERR mean, and why does my calculator keep spitting that out. Oh well. Firefox is has more than 87,282,811.3% more users than they had in 1996!!
on any release since 1.0. So all the people that tried out the browser, default to the Firefox google search page on browser launch.
I run an e-commerce beauty products site whose audience is about 80-90% women, and we get about 10,000 unique visitors a day. I am currently seeing about 4.5% Firefox users, and about 4.7% Safari users, Both of these numbers are way up, from 1.5% Safari and practically non-existent Firefox 1 year ago.
Just some stats from the non-techie web world....
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Thing is, Firefox defaults to the Firefox website!
And where do you think IE defaults to?
It sure as heck ain't the Firefox site.
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that's your joke going straight the f**k over every slashdotter's heads at mach 12.
That ignores the fact that Opera identifies as IE6 by default, and that seems to have a pretty big following around these parts. It also ignores the fact that Konqueror and the Mozilla babies can all, either through Preferences or extensions, identify as IE as well (unfortunately, I can't speak for Safari).
/. HAS IE J00 TROLL LOLZ0RZ!!!', but just suggesting that user-agent strings aren't the most accurate way of assessing who's using what browser, and even if they were they'd still not be a 100% reliable source of information on people's preferred browser.
It also ignores all the Slashdotters reading the site while skiving off work on a locked-down Windows box, where IE is the only option availible. That's not to say 'OMG NO1 ON
Dealing with lawyers would be a lot less tedious if they all looked like Casey Novak.
Maybe if Mozilla had better documentation I wouldn't visit it so often, hoping to find documentation to explain things. Firefox does provide local (F1) help but that often sends you to the web - which ups Moz's page hits.
Also, Firefox has all sorts of neat hacking potential which dovetails with increasingly exposed hooks into Google things like Google maps.
Sadly, some basic browser commands and options are poorly documented and advanced information (on hacking) is largely non-existant. Which kinda sucks because some people find it easy to extend Firefox with bookmarklets, extensions, and GreaseMonkey scripts.
For example, a full Firefox contains a DOM (Document Object Model) Inspector which can help in traking down say how a page hid something in a style sheet. However there is no official documentation for this DOMi. Some outside web pages have helped by explaining what some of the buttons mean, but I have yet to see any discussion of "evalute javascript" and I can't seem to get it to work.
I am someone well versed in programming in many languages, but professionally never learned javascript. Yet I have written a few bookmarklets by example (e.g. find some js code examples that do things similar to what you want and imitate them).
I wish I could find a good discussion of javascript "namespaces" and Firefox hacking. My guess is that there is some contium. Bookmarklets only give you access to DOM stuff, GreaseMonkey exposes certain hooks into Firefox, Extensions expose more Firefox hooks, and hacking Firefox lets you do anything.
Given that this is Nielson, you might consider how they measure television and radio statistics: through a variety of instruments including interviews, journals, and where technologically possible actual tracking, all of which are compared with each other and extrapolated across the whole population.
That kind of approach is very often accurate, though there have been some "Dewey Beats Truman" situations too.
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I was looking thru Nielson site to see where Firefox really stand next to IE. I can't find squat.
More importantly I want to know if Firefox has officially surpassed Netscape to become the #2 browser.
How do these guys find the sex behind those links?
"Men accounted for 71% or nearly 1.9 mln site visitors, compared to the women who comprised 29% or the minority population who visited in March 2005."
The study also disproved the widely held assumption - in the web no one knows you are a dog.
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My wife downloaded the fox at her work and then the security person found out. Well, she was told that this new browser was 'a security threat.' And she has to use IE for 'security reasons.'
That was supposed to be ironic, I hope you understand.
And who else here has Adblock installed and blocks tracking elements as much as adverts?
I've installed Firefox on three workmates computers, most of my family's computers... and all have Adblock installed using my filters as a starting point... not one of them would load the Red Sherrif code.
so, if thet are not men, they are women. 71% + 21%= 100%. and 21% by the way, is minority. GOT YA!
1x1 gif is totally unreliable as long as the users can turn the images display in their browsers - which can be done in any browser, anytime. JavaScript can also be disabled. Hence, both ways of tracking visitors are not 100% accurate.
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You'll often find this task is accomplished by "web bugs", tiny 1x1 .GIF images that have no purpose other than to go to a third party to indicate the page was viewed, by what IP address, etc. They'll frequently try to give you cookies, too, in order to study browser habits. (I always block these cookies when requested, just to be obstinate.)
I don't have any statistics to back this up, but I'm pretty sure that Firefox users are a lot more likely to block these cookies, web bugs and tracking scripts than your avarage IE user. If anything, Nielsen will underestimate Firefox's market share.
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As an omniture customer, I'm able to see browser stats for all of omniture's customers. This includes yahoo and intuit (as indicated by the other article about intuit tracking users)
Here is what omniture says under Browser Types for it's customer average:
Microsoft: 79.6%
Mozilla: 7.4%
Safari: 5.0%
AOL: 4.8%
Netscape: 2.4% (this is Netscape 4 and earlier.. netscape 6+ is counted under Mozilla)
Opera: 0.3%
Again, these are the averages for *all* of omniture's customers for April (so far).
They also break it down to individual browser versions, but there are over a hundred of those.. including "Nutscrape 1.0" and HotJava. So I'm not going to bother with that.
I'm the solo tech for a 500 pupil semi private school here in New Zealand and got wind of a "we want firefox" petition coming from the school geek patrol. So just to spite them I installed it on the domain before they could present the petition. Only browser I use myself so I'm curious to see how it goes with my users. Next up, Sunbird for the main office shared calendar. Doof
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I know that when I'm looking at porn, I already have more than enough to handle just from one big 'pop up'...
...oh, were we talking about windows, here?
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Does anyone actually still pay by impression? Geez .. I thought pretty much everyone in the ad affiliate world switched to at the very least pay by click-through back in +/- 2000 after the bust, and many switched to pay by "conversion", i.e. pay only those click-throughs that are converted to sales.
Gosh - how cool. Middle-clicking. I don't have a middle button so I tried clicking BOTH mouse buttons - lo and behold, there was a new tab with the site. A spurious menu, but basically very cool.
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Make your own favicons for webpages without, and assign them using the favicon picker extension.
I'm doing exactly the same as you, I've got a set of buttons for all my "popular" bookmarks. At the top. However, some sites doesn't have a favicon, then I just gimp one pretty quick (usually based on the logo of the page) and use that using the favicon picker extension. Normally I also send the webadmin of the site the favicon along with a description on how to use it. (If they want to use it)
did they account for the fact that mozilla sets their site as the default homepage?
Hmm, with less than 3% males I'd think that our civilization as we know it might not last very long... Our civilization is dying, Slashdot confirms it?
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That's interesting actually, since the only browser unlikely to be misrepresenting itself is therefore IE, and the only browser likely to used by force is also IE - so therefore IE represents at most just 18.9%, and likely less, and is partly used by those who would rather not.
So, on slashdot, we can say that IE has effectively lost the race.
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I didn't know that the user agent included gender.
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I wonder where most companies put their own cut offs. Is it acceptable to exclude 10% of their potential market by having an IE only site? 20%? 30%?
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Everyone I know, I have told/helped install Mozilla, Firefox, and even Netscape before Mozilla/Firefox existed. I never Liked MS and their ways, so I did what could to show people MS wasn't the only one around. Now if there are more people around like me, then Mozilla/Firefox should be getting pretty popular.
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If so, that's your middle button...you can click it.
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Would this have anything to do with Firefox changing your home page to the Firefox home page by default when you upgrade? I always uncheck the box, but I'm sure most people just click through.
For those not paying attention: 1% is 4% of 20%. Hence 4% more people using Firefox than were using it before.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
Men accounted for 71% or nearly 1.9 mln site visitors, compared to the women who comprised 29% or the minority population who visited in March 2005.
Did the writer suppose that there was some one out there that didn't know that 29% is a minority? Or did the writer just need help calculating 1.9mln / 71% * 29% = 0.78 mln?
(The grammarian I married would also like me to point out:
1. A sentence that says "the women" should have likewise said "the men".
2. The parenthetical comment "or the minority population" should have been surrounded by parentheses, or, at least, by commas.
3. Unless "March 2005" applies only to the women, at least one other comma is missing towards the end somewhere.)
"We reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals." --The American President (20.1.2009)
Neilson has connections to a few very high traffic sites and they either A)allow them to view the statistics on their logs, or B)allow them to put a 1x1 gif on their website for usage stats.
They also have a tool similar to Alexa that people (allegedly) voluntarily install and sends back data to them on what they viewed. It only works on IE as far as I know. The people that are selected to be preyed upon for their data have already participated in other marketing surveys so they know the demographics of the user.
I used to occasionally fill out surveys on transportation company satisfaction for another large polling company (which the only real benefit was they gave you access to the data on the polls you participated in). One day they asked me to take a survey on net use, I clicked the link and it took me to Neilson Netratings which tried (without my permission) to install their software.
I stopped dealing with the first company and the second. I thought it was pretty rude to be honest.
Freedom is merely privilege extended unless enjoyed by one and all.
To get to know "evaluate JavaScript" in the DOM Inspector, try this:
Open the DOM Inspector on a page containing a form.
Select the form in the tree on the left side of the window.
Click the tiny arrow in the title bar of the right display and choose JavaScript Object as display mode. A node called "target" should appear, which you can unfold.
Now right click target and click execute javascript.
Enter "target.submit()" to simulate a user hitting the form's submit button.
To sum it all up, it's like the JavaScript console, only you can select an object in the DOM tree that will be known as target to your JavaScript code.
It's the same guys reloading stuff.
.. paranoid crackpot leftover from the days of Amiga.
Anything can be proven with statistics... 40% of all people know that!
I find laziness to be an excellent motivator.
Are there web advertisements that are simply "brand builders"? For example, I wouldn't expect consumers to click on a simple "Coca-Cola" ribbon to consider it effective. The only way to rate them would be on a per-impression basis.
Oh, and as far as a few of the most annoying cookie-counters, I ended up sticking sites like siteminder.com in my hosts file. I do wish Firefox had a right-click cookie menu I could use to more easily fix cookie problems, but hey, now I'm just whining ... :-)
John
You're right, I was thinking of the tri-licensed Mozilla Suite (which, I gather, is no longer being developed by the Mozilla Foundation). Fortunately the MPL 1.1 is a free software license. At the same time, the GPL is a far more practical choice considering how much other software is already licensed under that license.
Digital Citizen
My goodness, so it is! Gads, I've been in this business since 1971 and I still learn new tricks. Maybe I'm a bot sloooow ....
thanks!
"Cats like plain crisps"
about:config > user.chromosome.autodetect Boolean, of course.
Boolean values:
0 = 46 chromosomes
1 = 47 chromosomes
-1 tasteless joke
Are you a grammar Nazi? I'm trying to improve my English; please correct my errors!
I got a request to sign up with Nielson surveys but could not because they require Windows and I don't do Windows. I'm not sure if they also require IE. So, you have a group selected on the basis of running Windows and being willing to download and install the monitoring/reporting software. Hmmm....
Vulnerability is a structural defect. If you write software that's invulnerale it won't get brought down by an attack. That's all that means however. Nobody will have heard of it.
Popularity is a question of marketing having NOTHING to do with quality. You can sell hamburgers to vegetarians if you know how to market stuff (im)properly.
MSBPodcast.com The opinions expressed here are my own. If you don't like 'em... Think up your own stuff.
Some browsers(Opera that I know of) can be set up to authenticate as other browsers when a website pokes it for auth. I have Opera set up to authenticate as MSIE 6 because otherwise my bank website wont let me in because my browser apparently doesnt support SSE. It's funny that Opera has SSE options, and that I can get in by authenticating as MSIE instead of Opera.
SRSLY.