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Jack Thompson Includes Gay Porn With Court Filing

An anonymous reader writes "Jack Thompson has done it again, now by making available gay porn for unlimited viewing on public records. Judge Jordan wrote on an issued order: 'The attached exhibit, which includes several graphic images of oral and genital sex between adult males, was filed electronically in the docket in this case, without prior permission from the court... To the extent that the other attorney's alleged conduct is in any way relevant... there was no need for Mr. Thompson to file these graphic images in the public record. A simple reference to the website and its alleged links would have sufficed...'" I'm usually not a fan of giving Thompson continued free publicity, but some of the things he does are just too outlandish not to share.

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  1. Uh, thanks, Jack. by pushing-robot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Were they from your private stash?

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    1. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by User+956 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Were they from your private stash?

      No, I think they were self-portraiture.

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    2. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      This thread is useless without pics

    3. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      I wonder if he is going to offer another $10,000 challenge for a specific gay porn pose/scene. Just like he did with his video game suggestion.

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    4. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by geekboy642 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, I'm pretty sure pics would lower the value of this thread into the sub-prime-mortgage-loan category.

      They were, after all, self-portrait.

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    5. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm glad the case wasn't about NAMBLA.

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    6. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by myyrk · · Score: 1

      National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes?

    7. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kind of reminds me of a local reporter that put the url www.sickpuppy.com in a list of sites for kids in a popular news paper. (instead of www.happypuppy.com) Don't know if any of the site still exists, but it was funny at the time. You have to think the sites were cut and pasted and not typed in. He got into a little trouble. A couple of years later he was arrested for having kiddy porn on his computer.

    8. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Funny

      Were they from your private stash? When I read the headline, I thought that's what happened. Holy fucking shit, that would have been the world's most ultimate copy-paste self-pwn ever.

      As it stands, I'm still wondering what this has to do with videogames and am a little scared to RTFA for fear of getting goatse.cx'd.
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    9. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by xSauronx · · Score: 1
      just wait. this time he uses goatse

      next time the court gets Rick Roll'd

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    10. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hee... weel... bee.. ass-.eem-lated...

      Do you see the REAL deepthroats in this court room?

      I'm sure the judge was nothing short of agog to issue a BINDING GAG order for this non-condomnable act inasspicious.

      Filing paper beats ORAL discourse, I'm sure.

      Will the judge hold him IN CONTEMPT IN court?

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    11. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by MBraynard · · Score: 1

      Apart from the merits of the case, there is actually good reason to include the images rather than a link to a website. Website content changes and a permanent recording needs to be established.

    12. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by vimh42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More to the point. It's a public filing. He made porn available in a public place. Won't someone think of the children! No seriously.

    13. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by renegadesx · · Score: 0

      Or from the Catholic Church's private stash

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    14. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by hardburn · · Score: 1

      Plus, if you RTFA, he alleges that the company he's filling against made hardcore porn available to children.

      He's quite bright, that one.

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    15. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by vuffi_raa · · Score: 1

      gay sex and pedophilia are in no way related

    16. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by tantakatan · · Score: 0

      From TFA: "Thompson may have more to say in his own defense as to his alleged contemptuous behavior, but at this juncture, with all respect, he does not apologize for nor regret what he has done... if this court desires to throw Thompson into jail for trying to sound the alarm in this dramatic fashion... then Thompson is prepared to go there." I'm sure he's more than prepared to go to jail. I bet he can't wait to get in that cell and let Bubba know why he's been sent there. He's such a naughty, naughty boy. He needs to be punished....

    17. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by mooingyak · · Score: 1

      And I don't think there was any implication they were. It seems more likely it was a comment on what kind of photos would have been involved.

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    18. Re:Uh, thanks, Jack. by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      sure they are, both are used to scare and rally the far right.

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  2. Gack! Fix the headline -- quick! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's filling my mind with disgusting images!

    s/filling/filing

  3. I said it before... by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Funny
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    1. Re:I said it before... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Can we turn the tables on him and sue him for making these inappropriate images available to minors?

  4. Brilliant! by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm usually not a fan of giving Thompson continued free publicity, but some of the things he does are just too outlandish not to share.

    So you made it a story on /.?

    Here's to you, Mister Hide It in Plain View Guy!

    1. Re:Brilliant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Here's to you..."

      Wacko Jack-O!

    2. Re:Brilliant! by 3chuck3 · · Score: 1

      Because bringing into play Gay Pr0n always improves ones arguement, or so by guy friends think.

    3. Re:Brilliant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do understand the use of the conjunction "but", don't you? The person writing the story asserts that actions described in phrase A (" giving . . . free publicity") are generally bad. However, this is justified by the additional conditions he asserts exist in phrase B (" . . . too outlandish not to share.") So he's already explained why he's making it a story on slashdot, in the short little sentence you quoted. The word "but" makes it implicit he understands the two phrases support contradictory conclusions.

      I understand parsing sentences is being practiced less in most schools these days, but this doesn't even make sense. You simply restate the content half of the original sentence, cutting out the information in the other half; then, you make a joke mocking the person for being unaware of the information you ignored. And it's modded "Funny"?

    4. Re:Brilliant! by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

      I think their should be the equivalent of a "Godwin's Law" for gay porn or Jack Thompson.

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    5. Re:Brilliant! by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      Actually, you're spot on. I misread the end of the sentence as "... too outlandish to share." rather than "too outlandish *not* to share."

      But no need to get crabby just because I misread the sentence. Sheesh.

    6. Re:Brilliant! by beckerist · · Score: 1

      most ironic link ever (in response to your comment)

    7. Re: Brilliant! by rkcallaghan · · Score: 2, Informative

      satire mode="on"

      You do understand the use of the conjunction "and", don't you? The AC writing the comment asserts that actions described in phrase A ("you make a joke mocking the person for being unaware of the information you ignored") are combined with the conditions in phrase B ("And it's modded "Funny"?").

      So he's not being crabby just because you misread the sentence, but because you also got modded funny for your off-base mockery. This whole explanation is Tongue-in-Cheek jest.

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  5. I love this guy. by PlayItBogart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You keep thinking he couldn't get any wackier and do anything more outlandish than subpoena the President, and then he goes and does this.

    How will you top this, Mr. Thompson? Are you gonna shoot the Pope?

    1. Re:I love this guy. by dmatos · · Score: 4, Informative
      Apparently, this is not something new for good ole JT. He's been cautioned before about including pornography in his filings. From the article:

      ... this isn't the first time Thompson has been warned by a court not to include suggestive photos in those case filings. An April 12th entry in the Florida Supreme Court docket covering the Florida Bar's case against Thompson includes this notation:

      ...the Court notes that [Thompson] has attached inappropriate and pornographic materials to his petitions that are irrelevant to his arguments. Respondent is warned that should he continue to submit such inappropriate filings, the Court will consider imposing sanctions which may include, but are not limited to, a limitation on Respondent's ability to submit further filings without the signature of an attorney other than himself.
      I'm kind of disappointed. I want him to come up with some new tricks to amuse me.
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    2. Re:I love this guy. by rde · · Score: 2, Funny

      You keep thinking he couldn't get any wackier and do anything more outlandish than subpoena the President, and then he goes and does this.
      There's a progression;
      subpoenas -> pornpenis -> nopennies
      Expect him to protest the new one-cent coins on the grounds that Lincoln was of questionable sexuality, and wholly undeserving of a coin of his own.

    3. Re:I love this guy. by Mix+Master+Nixon · · Score: 4, Funny

      How will you top this, Mr. Thompson? Are you gonna shoot the Pope?

      Sounds like a win-win situation to me, though the pope could easily deflect the bullets by using the immense power of the Dark Side of the Force and then it's just a crazy-ass lawyer who's out of bullets up against an incredibly powerful Emperor who could crush all of his internal organs into sandwich paste with sheer will power. We'd still have Pope Palpatine but at least we'd be rid of Thompson.
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    4. Re:I love this guy. by Mikkeles · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While including materials irrelevant to the case in court documents may be worthy of censure, I am curious as to how the future review or study of a case will be done based on "A simple reference to the website and its alleged links" in place of hard documents (e.g.: paper or a CD) given the ephemeral nature of many web sites.

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    5. Re:I love this guy. by sharkey · · Score: 1

      If you're a guy, Jack might love you back!

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    6. Re:I love this guy. by techwrench · · Score: 0

      With Dayglo paintballs?

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    7. Re:I love this guy. by shystershep · · Score: 3, Informative

      Technical merits aside, it is accepted practice to cite to internet materials (usually by url + date last visited, which is at least a nod to the fact that the medium isn't fixed). In general, if it's a document only you or the other party has, you attach it as an exhibit; if it's publicly available -- book, journal, website, etc -- you cite to it but don't attach it.

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    8. Re:I love this guy. by e4g4 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And here I thought your nopennies idea was that he's on his way to being disbarred, ostracized and flat-fucking broke.

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    9. Re:I love this guy. by krgallagher · · Score: 1
      "How will you top this, Mr. Thompson? Are you gonna shoot the Pope?"

      Let's see, according to the article, he included "several graphic images of oral and genital sex between adult males." Maybe he should include several graphic images of oral and genital sex between adult females. I am sure he would get far fewer objections.

      BTW:The definition of obscenity is "whatever gives a judge an erection."

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    10. Re:I love this guy. by Jabrwock · · Score: 1

      While including materials irrelevant to the case in court documents may be worthy of censure, I am curious as to how the future review or study of a case will be done based on "A simple reference to the website and its alleged links" in place of hard documents (e.g.: paper or a CD) given the ephemeral nature of many web sites. He could easily have documented the links and downloaded a copy, noting in the filing that he'd be willing to make the material available should the link go down. Instead he just downloaded the pictures, provided no links at all to prove where he got them from, and attached them to a court filing stating he got them "from" site X, but without any info as to when this occurred, what links he used, or how he found them, and especially without any evidence of connection to the site he's originally complaining about.
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    11. Re:I love this guy. by dmatos · · Score: 1

      It'll all work out as long as the Pope hasn't built a giant open shaft down to the reactor core in the middle of St. Peters.

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    12. Re:I love this guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MLA allows for the use of Internet material. A Works Cited page will include URL, date visited, author and date published.

    13. Re:I love this guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very disturbing. For a second I read this as "How will you top this, Mr. Thompson? Are you gonna shoot the Poop?"

    14. Re:I love this guy. by More_Cowbell · · Score: 1
      OK, that's just weird. I'd not heard of a new penny (much less a gay one) so I googled it. This was the second link. Well above a CNN story about the new money.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Penny

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    15. Re:I love this guy. by langelgjm · · Score: 1

      Of course, it'll also be extremely difficult to prove that those hard documents, such as paper or CD, are actually from the website in question, and were present on the day that you claim they were present.

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    16. Re:I love this guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I want him to come up with some new tricks to amuse me."

      Send him some new porn. Give him ideas. He hasn't filed tubgirl yet.

    17. Re:I love this guy. by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      he couldn't get any wackier and do anything more outlandish than subpoena the President

      Assuming his testimony would be relevant to the case, what's wrong with serving the president with a subpoena? Is he excused his legal and moral obligations because he's busy?

      (Note that I have no idea of the details of the case you're referring to, but generally I don't find that a ridiculous idea - no-one should be above the law. Of course, if the president had nothing to do with the case and it was just some sort of publicity stunt then yeah, the guy's a loon)

    18. Re:I love this guy. by Phisbut · · Score: 1

      I know this is slashdot, and we don't read the articles. But did we really need to mod a comment which merely quotes the article as "Informative"?

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    19. Re:I love this guy. by MassiveForces · · Score: 1

      "Oh dear," says Slashdot, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic

    20. Re:I love this guy. by Pecisk · · Score: 1

      It's no good to make fun at Pope, but....khemm.....MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :)

      Sorry, couldn't keep stright face. My respects to Pope (no matter how he looks), but I imagined that scene instantly as I read your script for it. Damn rockin.

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    21. Re:I love this guy. by ultranova · · Score: 1

      How will you top this, Mr. Thompson? Are you gonna shoot the Pope?

      How could he ? He isn't using murder simulators to train, after all. Or... could this all be revenge for never finishing Tetris ?

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    22. Re:I love this guy. by apt142 · · Score: 1

      ...excuse me while I go convert to Catholicism.

    23. Re:I love this guy. by o'reor · · Score: 1
      Great stuff !! :-))

      But are you makink fun of him ? Do not underestimate da might of der Panzerkardinal !

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    24. Re:I love this guy. by RESPAWN · · Score: 1

      Actually, all I could think about was the Ass Pennies skit from Kids In The Hall. Or were they talking about quarters?

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  6. Next... by xyph0r · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Next, he'll link to here, to prove that gamers and people in the IT world are HOMOPHOBIC and must be stopped. It's all part of his larger plan. Seriously.

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    1. Re:Next... by User+956 · · Score: 1

      Next, he'll link to here, to prove that gamers and people in the IT world are HOMOPHOBIC and must be stopped. It's all part of his larger plan. Seriously.

      I hear the next part of his plan is to sue someone for $54 million over a pair of pants. Which brings him to step 3, profit.

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    2. Re:Next... by squiggleslash · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I seem to remember him attacking Janet Reno for being a lesbian (which she isn't, I might add, making the attack doubly bizarre) so I doubt he's going to attack gamers for being homophobic.

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    3. Re:Next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Actually, I think you're confusing Reno with his "outing" of Hillary Rosen. They were running in the same election, and he said that her sexual preference would be a liability, because others could use it to blacklist her (ignoring the delicious irony of the fact that now that *he* had outed her, that was no longer a possibility.)

    4. Re:Next... by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No, I'm talking about Janet Reno. The incident is actually one of the great celebrated examples of Jack's kookiness. Quoth Wikipedia (which, alas, cites paper sources):

      Thompson gave Reno a letter at a campaign event requesting that she check a box to indicate whether she was homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual. Thompson said that Reno then put her hand on his shoulder and responded, "I'm only interested in virile men. That's why I'm not attracted to you."[10][11] He filed a police report accusing her of battery for touching him. In response, Reno asked Florida governor Bob Martinez to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate.[12] The special prosecutor rejected the charge, concluding that it was "a political ploy." Reno was ultimately re-elected with 69% of the vote. Thompson repeated allegations that Reno was a lesbian when she was nominated as U.S. Attorney General, leading one of her supporters, lieutenant governor Buddy MacKay, to dismiss him as a "kook."[10]

      Heh.

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    5. Re:Next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he'll provide a printout of all of the comments along with any pages linked to in the comments.

    6. Re:Next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL
      I'm charging you for battery! What? Spare me your feeble excuses!

  7. Sad part... by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The sad part really is... when doing this he honestly believes that he is discrediting Norm Kent rather then himself.

    He is over estimating how 'horrified' people are by homosexuality, believing that by bringing these images to the courts attention that he is somehow unmasking the horrors of Mr Kent's orientation.

    1. Re:Sad part... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's if-then, rather-than. It's not really that complicated, is it?

    2. Re:Sad part... by jythie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes actually, it is quite complicated for me.

    3. Re:Sad part... by Poromenos1 · · Score: 1

      Why haven't they disbarred him yet?

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    4. Re:Sad part... by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why haven't they disbarred him yet?
      Why haven't they dismembered him yet?

      There, fixed.

    5. Re:Sad part... by sinator · · Score: 1

      Zomg! You cad! Rather then berate the fellow, if you took the time to explain, than he would get it! Jeez!

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    6. Re:Sad part... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're working on it, just very slowly. GP has the most recent news on the subject.

    7. Re:Sad part... by jythie · · Score: 1

      That is a good question. I wonder how long such procedures usually take.

      Actually, another theory concerning this 'gay porn' flap is that he is trying to provoke the judge into saying something sufficiently negative that he can claim the judge is bias and be thrown off the case.

      It has, unfortunately, worked in the past.

    8. Re:Sad part... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because he's just a bit quicker than the guy on the bricks is...

    9. Re:Sad part... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because if they removed his member, he'd also be decapitated.

    10. Re:Sad part... by vuffi_raa · · Score: 1

      yes, off with his member.

    11. Re:Sad part... by drew · · Score: 1

      It gets even sadder... As far as I can tell, the only reason Norm Kent is even mentioned is because (according to JT) both Norm Kent and the Florida Bar Association have a history of harassing JT. It appears that the case in question is between JT and the Bar, and Norm Kent has nothing to do with it except in JT's head.

      So really, he honestly believes that by doing this he is discrediting the Florida Bar Association.

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  8. Is it safe to say... by HairyNevus · · Score: 1

    ...if the queue for viewing of these publics records gets big, that the files have been slashdotted?

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  9. "Court filling"? by Jeian · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't want to know... I don't want to know...

    1. Re:"Court filling"? by halcyon1234 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pound the gavel.

    2. Re:"Court filling"? by DustyShadow · · Score: 1

      I think we just discovered the real use for the guard's handcuffs....gross.

    3. Re:"Court filling"? by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      OT. Can I just that yours is the first sig to make me laugh out loud in a long time?

    4. Re:"Court filling"? by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. =)

  10. Goatse! by blueskies · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Someone should help him by posting a link to goatse so he can submit that...

    1. Re:Goatse! by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sumbit it? He should pose for it.

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    2. Re:Goatse! by Soruk · · Score: 1

      s/should/did/

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  11. I Motion To... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Throw him in the slammer. That'll learn him gay porn first hand!

    1. Re:I Motion To... by techpawn · · Score: 5, Funny

      That'll learn him gay porn first hand!
      I believe you mean FIST hand...
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    2. Re:I Motion To... by renegadesx · · Score: 0

      Then somebody will video tape it, release it on the internet, sue the taper for character SLAUGTER and will file the videos

      "Prison Break...back"

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  12. I think he works for the game industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I think he works for the game industry. He is their token 'all those violence/sex in games' critics are nuts poster child. Who is going to take these bullshit moralistic bible-bashers seriously when they are siding with Jack.

    1. Re:I think he works for the game industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there are enough real nuts in the world that people don't need to pretend.

  13. Honesty... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    This guy should be inside a strait jacket or at least get some serious counseling. He used to be funny, but now I pity him. :(

    1. Re:Honesty... by Otter · · Score: 1

      In fact, that's exactly correct. The guy is mentally ill, is not in any way a policymaker and the only reason why he keeps getting attention here and from the gam3r media is that they think it's amusing to kick around a mentally incompetent person.

    2. Re:Honesty... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thompson becomes a little more like Ann Coulter every day. So sad and crazy that you feel pity, but then they open their yap and you remember why you despise them more than pity them.

    3. Re:Honesty... by Applekid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      . . . they think it's amusing to kick around a mentally incompetent person. Don't be tricked: mentally incompetent or not he's still dangerous as long as he is consulted for interviews in which he can spew ignorance and has the ear of lawmakers to which he can spew FUD.
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    4. Re:Honesty... by Khaed · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It has nothing to do with him being mentally incompetent. We didn't just go out and pick someone who is mentally ill to kick around. This guy came after us. He made threats, he lied about us as gamers, he's trying to infringe on other people's free speech.

      He gets attention from us because the media takes the man seriously. At least, they did before this -- I'm not sure how many interviews he'll get after this.

      He is ridiculous, no one will argue that point (except perhaps Jack Thompson), but he is still a threat because he believes he is right and has not yet been discredited in the media.

      Actually, I'm surprised the nut isn't cohosting a show with Nancy Grace yet, now that I think about it.

    5. Re:Honesty... by Otter · · Score: 1
      Actually it's you guys who have been tricked, but thanks for your concern.

      Here's Google News on Thompson. I got three pages in, finding a single non-negative reference to him. If someone has the energy to dig deeper, please let me know where all the "interviews" and "lawmakers" come in.

      Sorry, kids, but if you want to Do Something Really Important, it's going to have to be more ambitious than ridiculing this irritating but unfortunate guy.

    6. Re:Honesty... by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      It has nothing to do with him being mentally incompetent. We didn't just go out and pick someone who is mentally ill to kick around. This guy came after us.

      Tell me about it. This fucker is like a dog that won't die. As another poster said this guy used to be funny, now he is just pathetic.

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    7. Re:Honesty... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Google News index print journalism? Radio? TV?

      Why, no, I believe it doesn't. So I'm not sure quite why you seem to think it is remotely relevant to the question of whether Jack Thompson is, for example, frequently invited onto talk shows to discuss gamer violence.

    8. Re:Honesty... by Trails · · Score: 1
      How does drafting legislation suit you? Important enough?

      Form the Wikipedia article on JT:

      In Louisiana, Thompson helped draft a 2006 bill sponsored by state representative Roy Burrell to ban the sale of violent video games to buyers under 18 (HB1381).
    9. Re:Honesty... by genner · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thompson could never hope to half the man Ann Coulter is.

    10. Re:Honesty... by Otter · · Score: 1

      C'mon -- he's got a Wikipedia page a mile long, with a single instance where he even *claims* someone semi-important listened to him? ("Helped" how, exactly?) I do appreciate your pointing me to that, but I still say the guy is a nonentity outside of the hatred of gamers.

    11. Re:Honesty... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point isn't that the laws got thrown out, the point is there are a lot of helpful idiots in power who will believe everything coming out how his mouth.

      Besides, passing a bad law that will get tossed out by its own merits doesn't justify the passing of the bad law.

    12. Re:Honesty... by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Oh, I agree completely. I'm just saying that it's fortunate for the rest of us that a few wackos like JT aren't completely ruining it for the rest of us. They're just making things mildly inconvenient.

    13. Re:Honesty... by Rew190 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You give Thompson a lot of credit... Ann Coulter is a very smart woman. She's made a career from shock politics - talking about her like she's insane or something only plays into the image that she's selling. It keeps her in the limelight, sells books, and gets her column space. Don't play her game by buying it.

    14. Re:Honesty... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm surprised the nut isn't cohosting a show with Nancy Grace yet, now that I think about it. Toss in Ann Coulter and you've got quality family entertainment.
    15. Re:Honesty... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Don't be tricked: mentally incompetent or not he's still dangerous as long as he is consulted for interviews in which he can spew ignorance and has the ear of lawmakers to which he can spew FUD.

      True, but remember than in this regard he differs not one iota from those lawmakers ... and most of Hollywood too, for that matter. He's just a little more over the top. Although, now that I think about it, if you actually listen what our lawmakers and a lot of uninformed actors say in public, not very much more.

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    16. Re:Honesty... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree that Ann Coulter has been very effective at selling her image, but her image consists of screaming obscenity and spitting on people - that doesn't take intelligence, just marketing skills and a willingness to act like a boor in public.

    17. Re:Honesty... by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Well I found a few interviews and articles he did after recent national tragedies, but they do tend to be lost amongst the chatter against Thompson so it is not surprising you missed them. The best bet is to search for "Jack Thompson" + $TRAGEDY, as he seems to be able to find his way to the spotlight after every incident of national suffering to spew his latest theory regarding the cause. Anyway, here's the links for you enjoyment:
      VA Tech tragedy
      Devin Moore Shootings
      Red Lake Shootings

      Oh and here is an article by a non gaming web site about the Louisiana Game Bill:
      HB 1381

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    18. Re:Honesty... by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1

      One word: epicaricacy. [Say no to freude loan-words! ;-) ]

    19. Re:Honesty... by Khaed · · Score: 1

      Sorry, a show with Nancy Grace and Jack Thompson is already at the limit for stupid bitches.

      However, if you put Ann Coulter, Jack Thompson, Nancy Grace, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a house, and filmed it, you might have a reality TV show I'd be interested in watching.

  14. Just Jack! by Mysticweed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just be grateful he's spending long hours, night after night protecting us from the gays. Maybe he should move to Iran I hear they don't have gay people there.

    1. Re:Just Jack! by Enlightenment · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and neither does the US military. Oh, and have you heard that Germany doesn't have Jews? Weird.

    2. Re:Just Jack! by nomadic · · Score: 1

      Just be grateful he's spending long hours, night after night protecting us from the gays. Maybe he should move to Iran I hear they don't have gay people there.

      Just for the record, it was just brilliant for a homophobe like him to decide to live in Miami, not like you're going to run into any gay people here...

    3. Re:Just Jack! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I'd root for a gay guy protecting us from Jack.

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    4. Re:Just Jack! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he should move to Iran I hear they don't have gay people there.


      Yes they do.
    5. Re:Just Jack! by Khaed · · Score: 4, Informative

      Of course they do, that's not the point OP was making. Recently, the president of Iran claimed "we have no homosexuals in Iran." He said it three times in a row at Columbia U. At first, the students laughed at him, then started booing (lightly) the ridiculous statement.

      The reality is, they probably don't have anyone who will admit to being gay since it carries the death penalty.

    6. Re:Just Jack! by s.bots · · Score: 1

      No they don't. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said so: http://i.abcnews.com/US/story?id=3642673&page=1

    7. Re:Just Jack! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, they do. They just realize they have to move to Canada 6 months later...

      http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/2007/03/030407_1.html

    8. Re:Just Jack! by benfinkel · · Score: 1

      There was an essay recently that discussed the "underground" Gay Culture in Saudi Arabia. Basically, it's not underground at all and flourishes quite well due to some liberal interpretations of Muslim law. As long as they don't suck each other's bone marrow in public view, the can get get away with whatever they'd like. I can't imagine it's much different in Iran. Maybe a little less obvious about it, but I'm sure it's prevalent and common.

    9. Re:Just Jack! by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1, Informative

      Recently, the president of Iran claimed "we have no homosexuals in Iran." He actually said something in Farsi that was translated as, "In Iran, we don't have homosexuals like in your country." Given the complexities of translation, it isn't hard to interpret his meaning to be that in Iran, most homosexuals are in the closet, they don't advertise their orientation the way they do in your country.

      But of course that doesn't make as good fodder for the evening news round of sound-bites.
    10. Re:Just Jack! by Joebert · · Score: 1

      You know in Australia, using "I'd root" & "gay guy" in the same sentence will make people look at you funny.

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    11. Re:Just Jack! by drydirt · · Score: 1

      The reality is, they probably don't have anyone who will admit to being gay since it carries the death penalty.


      For anyone who doubts this;

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Asgari_and_Ayaz_Marhoni

      The picture of the teenagers being hanged is truly frightening:

      http://isna.ir/Main/PicView.aspx?Pic=Pic-556874-1&Lang=P

    12. Re:Just Jack! by guywcole · · Score: 1

      That's what I want to know. What was HE doing when he found these images? Either he was cruising for gay porn for recreational purposes, or he was intentionally seeking the porn for some persecution purpose, or he was in some way assaulted by it in a pop-up?

      If he was cruising for gay porn, someone should bring that up.
      If he claims he was researching something, someone should call him on that age old lie.
      If he was assaulted by it, why was he hanging out on the seedy websites that carry gay porn ads?

      Or did San Andreas sneak into his house and plant this gay porn all over the place?

    13. Re:Just Jack! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Explain please. If possible I try to avoid blunders. :)

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    14. Re:Just Jack! by Joebert · · Score: 1

      I leave that up to an Aussie to do. :)

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    15. Re:Just Jack! by Khaed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Given the complexities of translation, it isn't hard to interpret his meaning to be that in Iran, most homosexuals are in the closet, they don't advertise their orientation the way they do in your country.

      Well, of course not; it carries the death penalty.

      Either way, the man is a nut.

    16. Re:Just Jack! by pjp6259 · · Score: 1
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    17. Re:Just Jack! by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      Well, of course not; it carries the death penalty.

      Either way, the man is a nut. What, do you think he's personally responsible for that law?

      Seems more like you've bought into the standard demonization PR.
      Nobody gets to be president of a country (even one like Iran where the President is not the top guy) by being "a nut." Not in North Korea, not in Iraq, nor even in Serbia. I absolutely guarantee you that the CIA does not consider him "a nut."
    18. Re:Just Jack! by Khaed · · Score: 1

      No, I don't think he's responsible for the law, but it falls in with his belief system.

      My definition of nut in this case is not somehow mentally incompetent. But anyone who thinks there are no homosexuals in Iran, or that their treatment of homosexuals is somehow acceptable, is a nut. Plain and simple.

    19. Re:Just Jack! by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 0

      No, I don't think he's responsible for the law, but it falls in with his belief system.

      My definition of nut in this case is not somehow mentally incompetent. But anyone who thinks there are no homosexuals in Iran, or that their treatment of homosexuals is somehow acceptable, is a nut. Plain and simple. So basically you ignored my entire point about his response being misinterpreted. Because all I see up there in your own words is a quixotic attack against the misinterpretation.
  15. Jack, c'mon... by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...I know that you're desperate, but bribing the judge with your home videos will almost certainly NOT work.

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    1. Re:Jack, c'mon... by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      Methinks if he wants to get a hold on the judge, he could try to spend more time hanging out in airport bathrooms?

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  16. Maybe the judge is closeted? by mind21_98 · · Score: 1

    Can the judge order the stuff stricken from anything publically viewable? I imagine he can.

    1. Re:Maybe the judge is closeted? by DM9290 · · Score: 1

      "Can the judge order the stuff stricken from anything publically viewable? I imagine he can."

      On what basis? Gay porn is not illegal to view. No one's life is in danger. The court is not in the business of obfuscating from the public what happens in the courtroom. Once you go down that road then you may as well start correcting grammatical errors and spelling of affidavits, witnesses' testimony and whatever else the Judge thinks the public may not want to see. What if there was no porn but material which criticized Muhammad? What if it was material that criticized the President? What is the legal basis upon which to decide what kind of so called inappropriate material is sealed or not sealed?

      Anyone who wants to see the filing should be able to see the entire filing. Just because the judge finds it irrelevant is a question of law. What if the judge is in error? What if it is extremely relevant? No one would ever know if it was sealed. The only possible party who would be affected is the party responsible for disseminating this material to the public. I could see them coming back to the court and asking for relief, because there is likely a law forbidding dissemination of porn to minors. On the other hand, the fact that this porn serves a legitimate purpose of documenting the administration of justice, I wouldn't be surprised if the court ruled that it should be made available even to minors. On the other hand they could rule that the interests of justice are served in this case by restricting access to adults.

      But a blanket sealing of the filing would seem to go way to far unless someone comes forward with a decent legal justification.

      This kind of censorship should only be used in the interest of protecting the third parties or the public from grievous harm, not simply because someone out there might be shy about sexuality.

      The entire administration of justice would fall into disrepute if there was an appearance that a party was not absolutely free to make any kind of argument they think is appropriate, no matter how absurd or ridiculous every other person in the planet deems it to be. And if the courts started censoring the proceedings, this would be a terrible price to pay simply to "protect" someone from seeing some gay porn that is otherwise perfectly legal and easily accessible at the local public library.

      If people act like buffoons in the court room.. so be it. it should be documented as it occurred and made public.

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    2. Re:Maybe the judge is closeted? by sabt-pestnu · · Score: 1

      In point of fact, the judge did order the filing handled: (appropriate action).

      Some factors involved in sealing documents: (from here, a different jurisdiction, but the principle remains)
              (1) the need to ensure a fair trial;

              (2) the need for witness cooperation;

              (3) the reliance of the parties upon expectations of confidentiality;

              (4) the public or professional significance of the lawsuit;

              (5) the perceived harm to the parties from disclosure;

              (6) why alternatives other than sealing the documents are not available to protect legitimate private interests as identified by this Rule; and

              (7) why the public interest, including, but not limited to, the public health and safety, is best served by sealing the documents.

      As was pointed out, filing publicly removed even those limits the original web site had on access (while imposing new ones - PACER access). Another thing guaranteed to irritate a judge, he filed them as an exhibit with a motion asking permission to file some other document, instead of letting his motion stand on its own legs. If I understand it right, the judge is saying "it doesn't promote justice, why should we publish it?"

      You're looking to hoist Mr Thompson by his own petard. The judge is looking to preserve the dignity and process of the court. Both are worthy causes, but I suspect that you might feel differently talking from the bench instead of the cheap seats. :)

    3. Re:Maybe the judge is closeted? by Jabrwock · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On what basis? Gay porn is not illegal to view. Actually, it is, in a public venue. JT was in violation of Florida obscenity laws by doing what he did. Just as much as if he had posted straight porn to a court docket.

      Had he presented this in a court-room, it likely would have been a different story.
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    4. Re:Maybe the judge is closeted? by DM9290 · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough, the judge merely "requested" that the Clerk of the Court not allow public access.

      He did not ORDER it.

      And moreover the blocking of public access was for NONE of the reasons you have stipulated as legal justifications. And it would not actually hold up except by some forced interpretations of words.

      He ruled the images "indecent, obscene and offensive" and based his decision to order the lawyer to justify the filing, upon another court case which ruled "No court need tolerate the use of obscene, indecent, and scandalous pleadings." Adams v. Nankervis, 902 F.2d 1578 (Table), 1990 WL 61990, at *3 (9th Cir. 1990).

      "You're looking to hoist Mr Thompson by his own petard. The judge is looking to preserve the dignity and process of the court. Both are worthy causes, but I suspect that you might feel differently talking from the bench instead of the cheap seats. :)"

      I'm not looking to hoist Mr. Thompson up by anything. I'm only looking to dispel the myth that judges have power to just order things at a whim. There must be a legal justification for the order. Its not enough to simply say "my goodness I'm offended! seal it".

      Sealing of any filing tends to render the trial unfair. And Adams v. Nankervis doesn't provide authority for keeping anything sealed, rather it provides authority to reject the pleading outright.

      According to the PDF you sent a link to, the Judge has not actually made any ruling as to whether or not he is going to "tolerate" the filing or not. But if he does "tolerate" it, he has not ordered anything sealed or explained what legal basis exists for the seal.

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    5. Re:Maybe the judge is closeted? by DM9290 · · Score: 1

      "Actually, it is, in a public venue. JT was in violation of Florida obscenity laws by doing what he did. Just as much as if he had posted straight porn to a court docket."

      I am talking about sealing the filing. I am not defending the lawyers method of delivery. If there is a problem with viewing the porn in a public venue, that still doesn't mean the filing should be sealed. It merely puts the onus on whoever requests a copy to not view it in a public venue. If your local corner store can distribute this porn then in theory it is not illegal for the Clerk of the Court to distribute it either provided they take the usual safeguards that people take when distributing porn. It is their statutory reponsibility afterall to make the filings available to the public.

      It is not open to them to simply decide to censor things unless there is a legal justification. According to Florida law lawful porn does not harm adults who choose to view it in private and thus it should not be sealed simply because it is lawful porn because that infringes the right of the adult public (the ones with the greatest interest in the legal system) from viewing this filing in private (the usual way most filings are viewed anyway).

      You dont seal things merely on the basis of irrelevance or offensiveness. If that was the case then a witnesses statement "I think all jews should be burned alive after being raped, and Hitler was a wonderful loving human being" could be censored and the public would never understand why the jury interpretted the witnesses actions as hateful.

      Seemingly this lawyer was being negligent and probably should face some kind of consequence. but that is a seperate question from whether the court is obligated to accept the filing, and if it accepts it, what its legal obligation is to make it publically available.

      in this case the judge found the court was under no obligation to tolerate the filing, and since the judge found the porn to be irrelevant anyway, then the trial would still be fair even if the judge simply rejected the whole filing as unacceptable. if the filing it rejected, then nothing need be sealed, because it wouldn't be on the public record anyway.

      If it is accepted then the only basis I know of for sealing it would be that it is harmful to the public. But if it was harmful then anyone could sue any corner store for selling porn on the basis it was harming them or get an injunction against the corner store to protect the public.

      anyway, we both probably agree that judges can't simply order things out of the blue. They need legal authority first.

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  17. Well... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

    Wheres the images?

    (after reading article)

    EWWWWW!! I dont wanna know!!

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    1. Re:Well... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Wheres the images? Redacted according to this footnote of the order issued on Monday:

      <sup>1</sup> Immediately upon being aware of the contents of the exhibit, I [Judge Adalberto Jordan] requested that the Clerk of the Court take appropriate action to prevent public access to the exhibit.
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  18. I saw the other stories but by LM741N · · Score: 1

    who the hell is Jack Thompson? I mean in every major city there are nuts who spend all their free time suing people. Why is this guy any different?

    1. Re:I saw the other stories but by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      He seeks to censor the video game, music and movie industries and has made a real ass of himself in the process.

    2. Re:I saw the other stories but by LM741N · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the clarification. I'm for Ron Paul as well. A strict constitutionalist. We have hardly even had any on the Supreme Court. Jeez.

    3. Re:I saw the other stories but by Frigga's+Ring · · Score: 1

      He's important because no matter what he does that's absolutely crazy, people still pay attention. He still shows up on news programs and quoted in articles and, more importantly, after numerous frivolous lawsuits, he's somehow still a lawyer. We, the video game playing community, need to hire someone to follow him around with a sign that says, "Do not feed the trolls". Either that or seek to get him disbarred.

    4. Re:I saw the other stories but by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      who the hell is Jack Thompson?

      What rock have you been living under? Is there room under there for two?

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  19. This article is useless without pictures. by Seumas · · Score: 0, Redundant

    This article is useless without pictures.

  20. So.... by gandhi_2 · · Score: 1

    is that covered under fair use or did Jack just infringe on someones copyright? More possibly, Jack Thompson IS the copyright holder for the images in question.

  21. Why hasn't he been disbarred yet? by Weegee_101 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously! Besides being a nuisance to the entire game industry including the gamers themselves, he goes and he does stuff like this. Wasn't he on trial just a few months ago for being in contempt of court? He's a nuisance to the entire legal system of the United States; all he does is create more troubles and headaches for everyone, and makes himself look like a complete asshole in the process. Worse, he gives people who don't want to blame thinks such as poverty or psychological issues a way to use the legal system to blame other, mostly unrelated activities, such as gaming. They really need to disbar Thompson. This has gotten rather ludicrous.

    1. Re:Why hasn't he been disbarred yet? by gorbachev · · Score: 1

      The wheels are grinding, slowly. That's why.

      It'll happen, sooner or later.

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    2. Re:Why hasn't he been disbarred yet? by edraven · · Score: 1

      IANAL (and boy, is that acronym even funnier in this context), but if I understand TFA properly, this filing of Jack's is part of a legal proceeding to determine if the Florida Bar should be allowed to remove his license to practice law. Apparently that means only in the State of Florida, again I'm just talking out of my ass here.

      Okay, I really should stop while I'm ahead.

  22. Don't Plead Guilty! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like gay porn as much as the next guy but... WAIT! WHAT AM I SAYING??

    Let me be clear.
    I am not gay.
    I never have been gay.

    Lord help me.

    L.C.

  23. Bullshit by SIIHP · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "The guy is mentally ill, is not in any way a policymaker and the only reason why he keeps getting attention here and from the gam3r media is that they think it's amusing to kick around a mentally incompetent person."

    No, the reason he gets attention is because he's trying to infringe on our rights and has enough power to be dangerous.

    If he was some nut screaming on a street corner, we'd ignore him, but he shows up on MSNBC, so he needs to be rebutted.

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  24. This story was submitted by an AC..... by 8127972 · · Score: 1

    ..... Who may still be in the closet.

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    1. Re:This story was submitted by an AC..... by gr3kgr33n · · Score: 1

      This is my opinion. To make sure you don't steal it, it's covered by the DMCA. This is his opinion. It has been unlocked for use with other carriers. Ge them while supplies last.

      Warning: The patching of his opinion after being unlocked may result in a bricked opinion.
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  25. Troll? by ScotchForBreakfast · · Score: 1

    Is it my imagination has Thompson shifted his strategy to include basic internet troll techniques?

    1. Re:Troll? by nuzak · · Score: 1

      IM IN YR DOCKET
      FILING TEH BRIEFZ!

      lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

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    2. Re:Troll? by maciarc · · Score: 1

      Jack Thompson's Reply to Microsoft's Counterclaims:
      "You're a bunch of Nazis!"

      Attachments: 2.4 Tb of porn...

  26. Shouldn't the oral arguments come first? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -Before jumping right to the anal...

  27. Think of the Children(tm) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't making porn available to the public constitute some kind of "contributing to the delinquency of a minor"? It would be a *very* fitting end for Mr Thompson...

  28. Ouch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe the judge thinks the guy is being a pain in the ass with his latest publicity?

  29. Fist post! by JackMeyhoff · · Score: 0

    Fist post!

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  30. He's different. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's gay.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that...

  31. No! More airtime for Jack! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    The more this guy gets insane in his claims and suits, the more it becomes obvious, even for people who know neither law nor games, that his claims are simply and plainly stupid. And, well, who wants to have the same opinion as a known idiot?

    Give this guy enough rope to hang himself and his agenda.

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    1. Re:No! More airtime for Jack! by Joebert · · Score: 1

      Give this guy enough rope to hang himself...

      Carefull, after gay porn comes autoerotic asphyxiation.
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    2. Re:No! More airtime for Jack! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You say that like it's a bad thing (in this case).

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    3. Re:No! More airtime for Jack! by Joebert · · Score: 1

      Jack sends photos of gay porn, pisses judge off.
      Jack sends photos of himself autoeroticly asphyxiating himself, judge takes it out on everyone else.

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    4. Re:No! More airtime for Jack! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Jack sends photos of himself autoeroticly asphyxiating himself

      I was under the impression that you die when you do that, so how would he? Unless he comes back from the grave, but then we have every right to cut off his head, if my education through zombie movies wasn't a waste of time.

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    5. Re:No! More airtime for Jack! by Joebert · · Score: 1

      I dunno, I thought you only died when you do it wrong. :?

      You know what this means right ?
      Someone's going to take a photo of a dead cat laying on the side of the road next to a rope captioned...

      "autoerotic asphyxiation cat"
      "ur doin it rong !!1"

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    6. Re:No! More airtime for Jack! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I have faith in Jack. He's never done anything right, so I am certain he won't let me down this time!

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  32. Oh, come on, Jack! by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

    Slashdot trolls tried this YEARS ago with goatse.cx; can't you be a little bit more original?

    What's next, is he going to call Rick Astley as a witness?

    1. Re:Oh, come on, Jack! by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 1

      Ah, I still remember the day I first clicked on that link that said "Tips for Winning at Spy Hunter" here...

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  33. From TFA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To hold Thompson in contempt for alerting the federal court system to the criminal activity... is akin to arresting Paul Revere, in 1775, for "disturbing the peace" with his midnight ride... Not a good thing to quote in an article about gay porn....
  34. Text of His Court Filing by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    I got a copy of his court filing. Here it is.

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  35. Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

    He is obsessed with gay sex.

    Against it or for it - you know that when he's obsessed - he's a Homo.

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    1. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While I sometimes think accusing political homophobes of being closet homosexuals, I often wonder whether some of these individuals are or not. I remember the first time someone told me about fisting, it was a rather venemous Fundementalist Christian on Usenet laying out in detail the "disgusting" practices of homosexuals. The guy's attention to detail was such that I read his post and thought "Who but a homosexual would be that interested in the explicit sexual activities of homosexuals?" I get that feeling from a few of the more vocal homophobes out there, they're just too in tune with the gay sex.

      In Thompson's case, I doubt it. The guy is just an attention whore. He'd do anything providing it got him attention.

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    2. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by the+dark+hero · · Score: 2

      it's hard to say. osama bin laden has an obsessive hatred and knowledge of the united states it's scary. do you think deep down he wishes he was american? I don't think so. it's all for shock value.

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    3. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by SnoopJeDi · · Score: 1

      Your analogy is flawed. It'd be more appropriate to say "do you think he's been to America?"

    4. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by 8-bitDesigner · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...and had sex with a man.

    5. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Your analogy is flawed. It'd be more appropriate to say "do you think he's been to America?"

      And you know what they say....Once you been to America, well, there's no turning back!!

      :-)

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    6. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Svartalf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Couldn't be because of this incident?

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    7. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Interesting
      it's hard to say. osama bin laden has an obsessive hatred and knowledge of the united states it's scary. do you think deep down he wishes he was american? I don't think so. it's all for shock value.

      The fact that X is the likely cause of outcome Y in situation Z does not mean that X must be the likely cause of outcome Y in all situations. That is a false generalization. This morning my telephone rang because I had placed a wake up call the night before. That does not mean that this is always the reason that a telphone rings or even the most likely reason for a telephone to ring, it is however the most likely reason in a hotel.

      Bin Laden has a deep seated hatred of all the inconvenient obstacles that lie between him and control of Saudi Arabia. He was quite happy to co-operate with the US when it suited him. When he fell out with the Saudi monarchy he resented the fact that it would be difficult to replace them with so many US bases on Saudi soil.

      Bin Laden has since fallen in with Zawahiri who has provided him with a means of rationalizing his hatred. Zawahiri in turn is obsessed with the idea of replacing the government of Egypt. He was instrumental in the assasination of Sadat in 1981 and took over the leadership of Islamic Jihad. Zawahiri's proximate complaint was the peace treaty with Israel.

      It is difficult to discuss Bin Laden rationally due to the propensity of wingnuts to deliberately take statements out of context for their own purposes. Bill Moyer was quite right to point out that the epithet 'coward' is thrown arround as if it were a purely normative ethical statement. It is necessary to proceed in small steps. Understanding the enemy in their true light is always important. The flaw in Bin Laden's ideology is the fact that he starts from utterly false premises, not a mere flaw in his logic or an inability to apply logic (aka irrational). He is not irrational in the sense of being entirely unpredictable or acting from entirely arbitrary impulses. Nor is his behaviour is self-defeating, on the contrary he has been allowed to achieve many of his political goals, in particular the demand that every terrorist makes and almost none achivies: to be treated as a political actor rather than a common criminal.

      Thompson's bizare actions on the other hand...

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    8. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      Pretty funny! I didn't know you Nibelung's had that much a sense of humor! :-)

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    9. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Interesting
      While I sometimes think accusing political homophobes of being closet homosexuals, I often wonder whether some of these individuals are or not.

      Most likely they are.

      There was a study performed in the '90s where both normal and homophobic men were shown heterosexual and gay porn. They found;

      Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies. http://www.oogachaga.com/downloads/homophobia_and_homosexual_arousal.pdf
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    10. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Fordiman · · Score: 1

      Were that I could mod you higher, I would.

      It's good to know that the history of these things isn't getting *completely* overshadowed by the stupid media ruckus surrounding them.

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    11. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Raven42rac · · Score: 2, Funny
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    12. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Excellent post! Utterly off-topic, but an excellent post.

      Whatever your particular ideological stripe, I think it's very important to understand bin Laden, and, in general those who advise him, help him and serve him. I agree, the word "coward" has been spread around, despite the fact that the motif of the pursued hero hiding from evil, powerful forces is a widespread one in many cultures (for example Robin Hood), and certainly is not meant to demonstrate the hero's cowardice, but rather his cleverness and stamina. This sort of motif applies to the suicide bombers as well; heroes who sacrifice themselves to win a struggle against a powerful enemy (ie. Samson)

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    13. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      The guy is just an attention whore. He'd do anything providing it got him attention.
      Has anyone else noticed that we pin other criticisms (more specifically, some kind of corruption) on people we don't like? We disagree with Jack Thomson's moral crusade, so he's a political attention whore. We don't like the **AA and their tactics for stopping piracy, so we call them greedy. We don't like religion, and the ideas it asks us to believe in, so they are brainwashing. We don't like some of the decisions made by our democratic governments (often because that's simply what the people want), so they are corrupt. I could go on, but I won't. It seems just to create a lot of unbalanced zealotry.
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    14. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Le+Marteau · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, it's called perspectivism

      It's pretty cool. Once you get over the need to thing that there is an ultimate "gods eye view" truth, and accept the idea that the 'truth' depends on perspective, it makes a lot of sense.

      For eg, hawk eats mouse. To the mouse, that is bad. To the hawk, that is good. How can a situation, the same exact situation, be both bad and good? Depends on the perspective.

      Kind of sucks. I wish it were not true. But the truth is subject to time and place. Bummer.

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    15. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Firehed · · Score: 1

      I agree (and almost modded you up for your valid point), but you've also left out an important trend here - there's evidence to support our accusations. We've seen JT come up with all sorts of irrational nonsense that he spews into the legal system with no outcome other than wasted time, and the level of irrationality of his claims seems to increase over time (yes, I know this is subjective of course). He's facing disbarment for a reason, after all. The RIAA uses tactics that earned them their "MAFIAA" nickname and are widely regarded as illegal (even the courts are starting to agree), and certainly haven't done anything to actually stop piracy - just look at the numbers. I'm not going down the path of religion, since you can't win an argument over faith, almost by definition - but the points I've seen from those opposing it seem to be much more reasonable and logical than those supporting it. Politics/government - just look at the laws, and their failure to obey them.

      Sure, it creates zealotry, but that tends to happen when you get the few going against the many. Some people will always spout nonsense, and some people will either give you facts or keep quiet. Plenty are in the middle, and mix facts with circular reasoning and faith to get across a half-truth.

      The statement that you responded to, as printed, certainly lacked the explanation and logic that I like to see from people making those kind of claims. But regular readers also already know what he would have said in order to back the claim, and he wanted to give his keyboard a rest. I won't lie - that was my immediate reaction to this headline as well: JT's career is falling apart, and he's desperate for attention. Anyone with an ounce of logic left knows that no good could come of doing something like this (especially with so many hypocritical homophobic extremists in power - yes, I know what I just did; my keyboard, too, can use a rest. If you want examples, go do a search for Larry Craig).

      Basically, the original statement had the evidence to back it implied. The majority of Slashdot readers know about JT and his history. Likewise for the RIAA, religion, and the government. Sure, organizations will receive blame they don't deserve at times. It happens. But in this case - and many others - we're simply calling their bullshit.

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    16. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      The "you talk about homosexuals so much, you must be one yourself" argument is pretty much the same as accusing the people behind those anti-smoking TV ads of being closet pack-a-day smokers.

    17. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      you've also left out an important trend here - there's evidence to support our accusations
      The interpretation of the evidence is relative. It may say "greedy fuckers" to you, but it might say "efficient business" or "moral crusade" to someone else.

      The RIAA...certainly haven't done anything to actually stop piracy - just look at the numbers.
      That's another example: you disagree with their tactics, so therefore they're useless. They don't have to stop piracy, just to slow it as much as possible.

      Politics/government - just look at the laws, and their failure to obey them.
      Well, it's only a small number of politicians who break the law. It's another example, where a small number of highly publicised politicians do bad things, therefore politics is bad, therefore they're all bad.

      Sorry to nitpick the whole thing. I just wanted to show you how deep it actually runs.
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    18. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1


      What the hell does dislike have to do with anything? I dislike vanilla ice cream. That hardly means I want it banned or curtailed.

      There is quite a significant difference between disliking something and displaying a fear and loathing of something. Dislike is such a lukewarm emotion, but I find this sort of semantic game is the sole defense of certain kinds of homophobes who still want to appear reasonable.

      What's there to like or dislike about homosexuals? They're people, like football fans, Communists and pet owners. What, someone doesn't like what they do in bed? People of every stripe do lots of things in bed. What, they don't like them trying to fight for some rights? The history of the Western World over the last few centuries is about groups trying to define and achieve some level of equality with the majority, and of at least some members of the majority trying to define away or minimize their concerns.

      In Thompson's case, I don't think it matters what his views on homosexuals are. The man is a mentally ill attention monger, and he's doing this for the same reason that some women put perfume on their resumes or some guys buy fancy sports cars on the 45th birthday, because it gets people looking and talking.

      But goddamnit, when someone starts showing a pathological fear or dislike of someone else because they don't like who they go to bed with or what they do when they get there, then I'd say there's a problem.

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    19. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe Bin Ladens hate comes from the experiences he got while on CIA payroll? After all we all know CIA did (and does) torture "enemy combatants". And that the torture is most likely worse than by anybody else.

    20. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by crucini · · Score: 2, Informative

      He was quite happy to co-operate with the US when it suited him
      From what I understand (sorry, I don't have a source) during the jihad against the USSR, Bin Laden never knew the extent of American support. The Pakistani ISI served as a buffer.
      Of course the US was importing, sheltering and encouraging global jihadists, including the sheik who would later attack the WTC for the first time, but I think the ISI insulated the muj in Afghanistan, giving them weapons and supplies without making them feel like tools of one empire against another.

      IIRC, the muj always seemed to drive Japanese mini-pickups, where US client states got Jeeps, etc. (Long before the Humvee).
    21. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by crucini · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whatever your particular ideological stripe, I think it's very important to understand bin Laden...

      There's a tension between understanding and demonizing. To win, you must often adopt a false, derogatory image of the enemy. In WWII, the US created a propaganda image of Germans as pompous buffoons. In reality, they were probably the best military on the planet. But we needed to mock them; how else do you get the nerve to face the most efficient killing machine on the planet?

      When Bush first called the 9/11 attackers "cowards", I was very displeased by the inaccuracy of the remark. Over the next several years, I gradually realized that it's not his job to provide accurate analysis of those guys; it's his job to fling feces at the other team, attacking their confidence and self-image.

      I would like him to go further, and attack the whole idea that shahids (martyrs) will be rewarded in Paradise. Not that I expect prospective martyrs to believe GW Bush, but when party A has a very clear story, and party B has no rebuttal, it's hard to blame people for siding with party A.
    22. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by k8to · · Score: 1

      This is getting pretty far off topic but....

      Fisting isn't really so much a practice of male homosexuals as an unusual kink. The vast majority of gay men do not fist or get fisted. Some straight men enjoy being penetrated (often by their female partner, but some find other avenues), some even enjoy being fisted and seek it out.

      Various straight compatriots of mine find fisting sufficiently unusual and frankly on the face of it, funny-sounding, that it is a topic of discussion from time to time. Of course, we do not go into grisly detail, partially because I doubt any of the males in my usual circles have actually been fisted (although I have not taken any surveys). Certainly if someone was to go into extensive "gory" detail over the topic I would suspect they were obsessed.

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    23. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know far too much detail about this - you must be a terrorist!! :O

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    24. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by eam · · Score: 1

      > The "you talk about homosexuals so much, you must be one yourself" argument is pretty much the
      > same as accusing the people behind those anti-smoking TV ads of being closet pack-a-day smokers.

      How?

    25. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Rakarra · · Score: 1
      And you know what they say....Once you been to America, well, there's no turning back!!

      Tell that to the INS!

    26. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      "You talk about smokers so much, you must be one yourself."

    27. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      So...If I talk about cigarettes too much, it means I'm a fag?

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    28. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by eam · · Score: 1

      Still don't see it as the same.

    29. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      Let's try this the other way, then - what's the difference?

    30. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      He called them cowards because they attacked defenseless, unsuspecting civilians, including women and children, rather than a proper military target. That they were, in some biological sense, physically brave to fly a plane into a building is beside the point.

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    31. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by ShadowsHawk · · Score: 1

      So there is no ultimate truth? What about murder, child rape, incest, etc? I think most rational people could agree that there are some things that are not open to interpretation.

    32. Re:Does he have a "Wide Stance"? by Le+Marteau · · Score: 1

      Just because everyone subjectively views a given act the same way (or very nearly the same way) does not make their common perspective an objective truth, but simply an agreement of perspectives.

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  36. Republicans hate him too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    For anyone who thinks this is political, go to the web's premier conservative website and search:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?s=jack+thompson

    Yes, even bigots and bible-thumpers hate Jack Thompson.

    1. Re:Republicans hate him too by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      the web's premier conservative website

      OT, but: how the hell are the Free Republic crowd conservative? What exactly are they trying to conserve? Authoritarian, yes, reactionary undoubtedly, but they're scarcely conservative. These people are radicals.

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    2. Re:Republicans hate him too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, Free Republic, the site for moron bigots who think making fun of peoples' names is intelligent social discourse.

      (Get it? Hussein Obama? See what I did there??)

      I do enjoy reading the site from time to time to see what the extreme right thinks of various news events. There are occasionally one or two posts displaying way above-average intelligence.. too few, sadly.

    3. Re:Republicans hate him too by dbIII · · Score: 1

      What exactly are they trying to conserve?

      Only their position of power. That's why you see some get totalitarian on some issues and completely monarchist on others. They get the name because the radical anti-intellectual cults that are nominally Christian call themselves conservative as well and that is their support base.

    4. Re:Republicans hate him too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They aren't conservatives, they're part of the Conservative movement. Which in America is an authoritarian classist/racist misogynistic morass.

  37. Note to jack thompson: by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 1

    when you are filing complaints about someone making pornagraphy available to anyone of any age, please avoid also making pornagraphy available to anyone of any age. Also, when someone asks you about it, try to avoid using the words "midnight run" to describe it.

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    1. Re:Note to jack thompson: by Hao+Wu · · Score: 1

      I'm sure he wants to censor the web just as much, but figures that he'll "start small" with videogames.

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  38. Genital sex between males? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, I'm almost afraid to ask, but how does male genital to male genital sex work?

    1. Re:Genital sex between males? by myyrk · · Score: 1

      Painfully?

    2. Re:Genital sex between males? by edraven · · Score: 1

      Trust me that you really, really don't want to hear the answer to your question.

    3. Re:Genital sex between males? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, I'm almost afraid to ask, but how does male genital to male genital sex work?
      Since you asked, your homework assignment:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frot

  39. Test of the system by tonyreadsnews · · Score: 1

    Maybe, just maybe (though I think he's really just completely lost it) he might be trying to see just how much he can get away with before they actually do dis-bar him. (I think that's the term)

    Think of the book he could write afterwards about all the crap he did, and how much the system kept him in place? I'll bet there's even more stuff that we haven't even heard about (and plenty I'm sure we don't want to hear about.

    Either way, I just wish the media would stop covering him (that'll make him stop more then anything).

  40. It all makes sense now. by Devir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jack Thompson's "moral crusade" against video games, obscenity, rap and well anything morally devient is due wholely to his own immoral desires. Jack cannot control his porn cravings and his lust for violence. So he goes on a holy crusade to eliminate the corruption of the world as a cover. In reality he is fighting his own internal demons.

    Jack Thompson feels that by cleaning the world, his internal struggle will diminish and he will become a normal and productive human in the near future. The fool crusade he runs is selfish and in no way there to benefit humanity as a whole.

    There is possibly quite a bit more 100 million video game systems out there. Yet if video games turned people violent, then there's be at least 1-20 million murders a year related to video games, providing that is 1-20% conversion rate. yet the fact is that quite possibly 0.00004% video gamers turn criminally violent.

    There are over 17,000,000 registered gun users in the USA alone, yet we dont have murder numbers that even come close to that. 99.99901% of gun crime is done by Illegaly obtained fire arms. I've known many gamers who play violent games and own real guns. Yet somehow they have failed to kill anyone.

    Jack plays a numbers game formatted to his own crusade. He wants to win for once, since pretty much every other crusade he has taken up failed in some way.

    Jack needs a psychiatrist to help him, not an end to the worlds deviance. Any lawyer who sends his photo ID with batman pasted over it, has some sort of mental ailment that needs professional help.

    To JAck, I hope you get well. Just dont bring down the rest of the world because of your war with your inner demons. Just fight youw own internal battle and let us govern ourselves.

    1. Re:It all makes sense now. by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jack Thompson's "moral crusade" against video games, obscenity, rap and well anything morally devient is due wholely to his own immoral desires. Jack cannot control his porn cravings and his lust for violence.
      The sad thing is that you are probably right. From my experience, the most adamant moral crusaders are usually those who have trouble leading a life according to their own sense of morality. So, they try to force others to live morally while applying a form of psychological violence to themselves. Developing as a moral human being requires growth and maturity, not (for example) flogging yourself whenever you have naughty thoughts about women you are not married to.


      Jack is clearly an overly aggressive person (I know, "No shit!"). It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he were a closet homosexual, or at least a latent homosexual who tries violently to deny it to himself.

    2. Re:It all makes sense now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So to clarify, you're saying that you think it's quite possible Jack is a homosexual gun freak that likes to torture puppies and rape infants? If so, that's amazing because I was just thinking the same thing myself, except I would ever say any of that because then he might sue me... :)

    3. Re:It all makes sense now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any lawyer who sends his photo ID with batman pasted over it, has some sort of mental ailment that needs professional help.


      WHEN was this? please post a url, i need a good laugh.
    4. Re:It all makes sense now. by sanosuke76 · · Score: 1

      ...or maybe he's got a fetish for scenes involving cheeseburgers being stolen from overweight cheerleaders by anorexic gymnasts? If he can get all of the gay pr0n shut down, then maybe the leftover industry output will double, or triple, the number of Jack-approved scenes that get filmed within a year! And then, his cheeseburger pr0n will flow...

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    5. Re:It all makes sense now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any lawyer who sends his photo ID with batman pasted over it, has some sort of mental ailment that needs professional help.

      Ailment like a sense of humor? That's actually pretty awesome, too bad it was cockdropper that did it.

      We shouldn't pick on him for having a little bit of harmless fun. Its not like we're short on ammo.

      It actually strikes me as a very nerd culture sort of thing to do.
    6. Re:It all makes sense now. by darkmeridian · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's kind of like David Hager, a gynecologist who worked for the FDA. Hager stopped the emergency contraception pill Plan B from being sold over-the-counter despite the science advisory committee suggesting that it should be. For the second time in fifty years, the suggestion of the committee was ignored. The objection was that it would encourage unprotected sex. Eventually, Plan B was sold OTC but the fact that the FDA was politicalized made news.

      During a divorce, Hager's wife alleged that he had raped and sodomized her while she was asleep under the influence of prescription medication. His defense was that he had gotten lost and hadn't meant to sodomize her. (I forget how he got around the whole unwanted sex part of the charges.) Yes, a gynecologist couldn't find his wife's personal parts.

      Sigh.

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    7. Re:It all makes sense now. by RobBebop · · Score: 1

      There is possibly quite a bit more 100 million video game systems out there. Yet if video games turned people violent, then there's be at least 1-20 million murders a year related to video games, providing that is 1-20% conversion rate. yet the fact is that quite possibly 0.00004% video gamers turn criminally violent. There are over 17,000,000 registered gun users in the USA alone, yet we dont have murder numbers that even come close to that. 99.99901% of gun crime is done by Illegaly obtained fire arms. I've known many gamers who play violent games and own real guns. Yet somehow they have failed to kill anyone.

      You can speculate and throw around ideas all you want, but when you turn you thoughts into numbers you need to provide at least some kind of citation. A simple Wikipedia source (which in itself references other sources) shines some light on the subject... but what I really want to know is where you got the "99.99901%". For intents and purposes... that data translates to 1 death from firearms out of every 10,000 deaths from firearms is caused by a "legally obtained" gun.

      I doubt this is true, and cite the WV tragedy where ~30 people unfortunately lost there lives from a gun which their fellow student obtained through legal means (as reported by the media). To balance your claim, some 290,000 "illegally obtained" cases must exist during this calendar year... and in my years I've never seen data to support that.

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    8. Re:It all makes sense now. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think Jack Thompson and Rick Santorum need to get together and go bowling... and see what develops from there.

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    9. Re:It all makes sense now. by Sentry21 · · Score: 1

      Developing as a moral human being requires growth and maturity, not (for example) flogging yourself whenever you have naughty thoughts about women you are not married to.


      To my understanding, naughty thoughts about women is the number one catalyst for flogging oneself...
    10. Re:It all makes sense now. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      To my understanding, naughty thoughts about women is the number one catalyst for flogging oneself... It does for Washington State University LUG members, anyway.

      (Does that work in US English?)

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    11. Re:It all makes sense now. by fabu10u$ · · Score: 1

      cf. Jesse Helms, Jerry Falwell, Pope Benedict XVI, et al.

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    12. Re:It all makes sense now. by Shados · · Score: 1

      Yet somehow they have failed to kill anyone
      Thats a problem with videogames lately. Way too easy, no challenge, and now with Nintendo pumping out casual games all over, teenagers don't learn how to properly kill anymore. Thats why they keep failing to kill anyone. /corneyjoke
    13. Re:It all makes sense now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's a narcoleptic.

  41. Ha ha ha ha ha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't

    stop

    laughing!

  42. How can you not love this guy? by klenwell · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's like the Andy Kaufman of the US legal system.

    Someday REM will sing a song about him.

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    1. Re:How can you not love this guy? by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's like the Andy Kaufman of the US legal system.

      Someday REM will sing a song about him.


      And Jim Carrey will star as Thompson in a bio, and will give a stirring speech at the end talking about how filing explicit pictures of gay sex and trying to censor anything that makes him angry is the American way. Carey will go on to win his first Oscar, and Thompson will file suit against him for character assassination, and will include pictures of beastiality.
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    2. Re:How can you not love this guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's inter-species erotica!

    3. Re:How can you not love this guy? by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can you believe,
      He stuck his
      Head up his ass...
      Head up his ass...

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    4. Re:How can you not love this guy? by neildiamond · · Score: 1

      Actually somewhat seriously, I recall seeing on tabloid TV some thing about Jim Carey appearing in porn (or at least a B-Movie) before his career really took off. Not sure if this was pre Living Color or not. Anyway, they showed him covering himself up most of the time while walking around naked in some group sex scenes. Very strange.

    5. Re:How can you not love this guy? by klenwell · · Score: 1

      I'm going to have that tune in my head the rest of the day.

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    6. Re:How can you not love this guy? by Joebert · · Score: 1

      So who will play Carrey in the new Ace Ventura flick ?

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    7. Re:How can you not love this guy? by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1
      and will include pictures of beastiality

      So... Jack having sex with a human?

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      They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
    8. Re:How can you not love this guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most. Redundant. Reply. Ever.

    9. Re:How can you not love this guy? by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I saw that film knowing nothing about Kaufman and actually found it boring. Was it just a really bad depiction or was Kaufman really just about racist jokes with the trick of pretending it was about a country that didn't exist?

    10. Re:How can you not love this guy? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      The movie was boring. I won't go as far as to say Kaufman was a genius, but he certainly knew how to shock people. I simply think a guy whose acting resume includes talking out of his ass really was all that qualified to play Kaufman. The casting of the movie had more to do with trying to give Carrey some sort of comedic/dramatic vehicle, and to put Courtney Love into something that didn't involve vulvas.

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    11. Re:How can you not love this guy? by dbIII · · Score: 1

      The casting of the movie had more to do with trying to give Carrey some sort of comedic/dramatic vehicle

      It was supposed to be a comedy?

    12. Re:How can you not love this guy? by tepples · · Score: 1

      I simply think a guy whose acting resume includes talking out of his ass really was all that qualified to play Kaufman. Would a large fraction of chief executives of public corporations also qualify?
    13. Re:How can you not love this guy? by dissy · · Score: 1

      This comment is worthless without youtubes

  43. Oh, the morony! by styryx · · Score: 1
    FTA:

    Kent, who publishes the National Gay News website, was criticized by Thompson in last week's court filing for "distribution of hardcore porn to anyone of any age." What, like displaying them on public record? JT is an i-ron.
  44. Damnit Jack... by navygeek · · Score: 1

    Thanks to this I think I blew my funny fuse...

  45. Rename your files, Jack! by theantipop · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe he needs to rename his porn stash to something other than "importantevidence001289.JPG".

  46. Disbarred by porkface · · Score: 1

    Until the man is disbarred from coast to coast, let's continue to feed the fire.

  47. What has this country come to? by zoikes · · Score: 1

    ...I can't believe this guy is running for president!

    1. Re:What has this country come to? by atarione · · Score: 1

      ummm i believe you have mistaken Fred Thompson who is a republican candidate /actor

      w/ Jack Thompson whom is just a jackass lawyer ... and anti video game violence activist.

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    2. Re:What has this country come to? by 3waygeek · · Score: 1

      Jack Thompson whom is just a jackass lawyer ... and anti video game violence activist.
       
      How does this differentiate him from your typical Republican presidential candidate?

    3. Re:What has this country come to? by zoikes · · Score: 1

      i guess i should have included the smiley face, huh?

    4. Re:What has this country come to? by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      As an aside, why do candidates think they can "get the youth vote" while simultaeously attacking the TV shows, movies, books, music, and video games the youth vote enjoys and trying to get it banned?

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    5. Re:What has this country come to? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      They don't, really.

      Also, they don't much care about the youth vote, since such a small number of them bother.

  48. Absolute Bullshit by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

    "The guy is mentally ill, is not in any way a policymaker and the only reason why he keeps getting attention here and from the gam3r media is that they think it's amusing to kick around a mentally incompetent person."
    And then...

    No, the reason he gets attention is because he's trying to infringe on our rights and has enough power to be dangerous.

    Lots of people try lots of things. It doesn't mean that they should be taken seriously. It's a fact that the only people that still take Jack Thompson seriously have no influence to do anything. Jack Thompson is not a realistic threat. Foaming at the mouth about Jack Thompson is just spinning wheels focusing on nonsense while our rights are taken away behind a different curtain.

    The sooner we ignore Jack Thompson as we should, the sooner we can focus on real threats to our freedoms.

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    1. Re:Absolute Bullshit by SIIHP · · Score: 1

      "It's a fact that the only people that still take Jack Thompson seriously have no influence to do anything. "

      I think the people who put him on TV would disagree (and be right).

      "Jack Thompson is not a realistic threat."

      I think the robots who get their information from TV would disagree.

      You can claim whatever you like, as soon as his sorry ass shows up on TV, he's a realistic threat.

      Ad saying "nuh uh" like you have is just putting your head in the sand.

      "The sooner we ignore Jack Thompson as we should"

      Which was my entire point, which you seem to have failed to comprehend. He is not being ignored by mass media so until that changes, he must be rebutted.

      And again, saying "nuh uh" is both wrong and foolish.

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    2. Re:Absolute Bullshit by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1
      I haven't seen him on FOX News (which I watch several hours a day), he hasn't been quoted to any significant level in either my local paper or the national general news outlets. Sure he gets ink at WIRED or El Reg, but take a look at a search for his name at Google News and tell me which one of these publications holds any weight with anyone that influences laws? You will note that the places his name shows up are lefty tech sites, obscure game sites, and right wing Christian sites.

      Jack Thompson isn't even a "has been", he's a "never been". The only people listening to him now are his lunatic cult followers and gamers like you who don't yet understand that he is a nobody.

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    3. Re:Absolute Bullshit by SIIHP · · Score: 1

      "I haven't seen him on FOX News (which I watch several hours a day)"

      Then you're lying or you don't watch as much as you claim.

      http://www.news.com/8300-10784_3-7-0.html?keyword=jack+thompson

      "Thompson, a Miami-based attorney, has been a high-profile crusader against video games and their alleged negative influence on children for some time now, but gained new notoriety in the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings earlier this month for being quick to point fingers at gaming as a root cause of the massacre. He alleged in the court complaint that the commentary from Kotaku readers began to emerge "within mere minutes" of an appearance he made on the Fox News Channel"

      That took two seconds to search for.

      Anyhting else you want me to show you you're wrong about?

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    4. Re:Absolute Bullshit by nuzak · · Score: 1

      Didn't watch much TV after the VA Tech shootings, did you? He was all over the airwaves. FNC already has sputtering reactionary jowl-waggers on staff, and doesn't need Thompson as much I guess.

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    5. Re:Absolute Bullshit by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Didn't watch much TV after the VA Tech shootings, did you? He was all over the airwaves. FNC already has sputtering reactionary jowl-waggers on staff, and doesn't need Thompson as much I guess.
      Every nutcase and their mother came out of the woodwork during the VA Killings. Doesn't mean they where taken seriously.
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    6. Re:Absolute Bullshit by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      http://www.news.com/8300-10784_3-7-0.html?keyword=jack+thompson

      To the majority of people in this country, CNet is not a major news source. Also, the link you quote supports my statement that he is not taken seriously. Anyone can petition the Courts, and many many many NUTCASES do. Jack is one of these nutcases. His complaints are NEVER sustained.

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    7. Re:Absolute Bullshit by SIIHP · · Score: 1

      God why are you such an imbecile?

      You claim he's not on Fox news, I show you're lying, and then you change your claims and avoid admitting I proved you were a liar.

      You're pretty fucking pathetic.

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  49. Who is this idiot, anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who is this guy, anyway? I've never heard of him, as I'm from Europe. What's so special about him, apart from apparently being a complete jackass.
    Sound like just another of those "God hates fags! (and about everybody else)" idiots.

    Cheers, your friendly neighbourhood homo.

    1. Re:Who is this idiot, anyway? by porcupine8 · · Score: 1

      Type his name into the slashdot search box or click on the "related articles" at the top of this page for a complete overview. In short: He's a rabid anti-video-game lawyer who gets a lot of publicity and is possibly insane and may soon be disbarred.

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  50. Only possible justfication... by Stanislav_J · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd be the last to defend this wacko in general, and I can't read his pea brain to fathom his motives, but when dealing with images from websites that are to be used as some sort of evidence in a lawsuit or other court filing, it may be that simply providing a URL to the images has its potential pitfalls. Websites and links, especially for pr0n, come and go, and it would be pretty frustrating to provide the URLs, then to find that by the time someone gets around to viewing them, there's nothing but a 404 or some abandoned domain holding page there. Sure, maybe there's a cache of it on Google or Wayback or somewhere, but maybe there isn't. Then you have to try to see if there is a cache of the page sitting on some other server somewhere, and it gets more complicated.

    Personally, if I had a legal case that depended on some image or text on a website, I'd rely not on an image, transcript, or URL reference, but would want to take a screenshot of a browser displaying the page in question, as well as the date and time stamp. That would seem to be of far more evidentiary value in the event that the site gets nuked in an attempt to cover someone's ass.

    (And yes, I realize that last sentence left y'all wide open to make some humorous gay pr0n reference....have at it.)

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    1. Re:Only possible justfication... by Jabrwock · · Score: 1

      Remember though that he's not presenting this in court just yet. This was a court filing he made through the electronic docket. He didn't go up to a judge and go "hey, uh, here's some incriminating links, and I've got some screenshots of the links on the site showing where I got them from." Instead he went "OMG WORLD LOOK A PENIS! IN A BUM!" and waved a picture around for the world to see (figuratively).

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    2. Re:Only possible justfication... by StringBlade · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's also a difference between filing uncensored hardcore pornography into public record, and censoring (blurring, black box, smiley, you-name-it) the image strategically and filing that. It's more tasteful and it serves its purpose.

      I'm not just talking about gay porn here, I'm talking super-violent images or anything else that would normally be considered "inappropriate" for the public record.

      Now on the other hand, I think it's a double-standard that one could file a motion and attach a graphic image of violence and gore without reprimand, but a graphically explicit sexual image is problematic. The double-standard is applied to our laws though as well. Walking around nude in public is usually illegal, but walking around with a sandwich board of gored and mutilated fetuses to protest abortion is perfectly fine. Frankly I find the gore more offensive than the naked guy -- he's just kind of funny (is it really that cold out?)

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    3. Re:Only possible justfication... by iabervon · · Score: 1

      So take a screenshot, but file the identifying information and a description, rather than the screenshot. If, later, there is some question as to whether there was content with that description at that location, you can produce the screenshot. In general, you're not supposed to produce evidence of things which the other side hasn't disputed, even lacking some reason not to make the evidence public, just because it wastes time.

  51. Hypocrisy and Criminal Behavior by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    That makes Jack Thompson a criminal, right? That is to say, unnecessarily (from any legal standpoint) publishing gay pornography in public records?

    And legal or not, does that not also make Jack Thompson exactly the kind of person he is attacking?

    There is a word for that, and the word is: hypocrisy.

  52. Capitalization... by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

    is the difference between helping your attorney Jack off with gay porn, and helping your attorney jack off with gay porn.

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  53. Your post was Absolute Bullshit by SIIHP · · Score: 0, Troll

    You know, I wrote out a well crafted reply exposing why you're wrong, but I left out an important point that I was eager to share.

    You're a fucking idiot. Your reasoning on this matter is moronic, and calling my post absolute bullshit only reinforces how much of an imbecile you are.

    There, now just combine the two posts.

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    1. Re:Your post was Absolute Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus dude, chill out. It's only Slashdot.

  54. Its probably by JustNiz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Its probably just photos of him and his friends from his private collection

    1. Re:Its probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean jacko actually has friends?

  55. Reminds me of a user in Baltimore... by spywhere · · Score: 1

    We had this guy at a client site who used to forward all the pornographic spam he received to the Help Desk.

    That issue solved itself: a severely repressed Christian woman spent a day on the desk, received one of his Emails, and crossed the hall to Human Resources.

  56. Is he married... to a woman? by cutecub · · Score: 1

    Just wondering.

    -S

    1. Re:Is he married... to a woman? by renegadesx · · Score: 0

      He claims so, but I do find Bill an odd name for a woman

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  57. Not to go all homophobe on everyone... by numbski · · Score: 1

    Norm Kent's comment got me the most:

    I'm not the one in trouble....sweetie.

    *shudder*

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    1. Re:Not to go all homophobe on everyone... by PsychosisBoy · · Score: 0

      The even scarier thing is that it was not Kent who said that, but Thompson himself.

      GP has been unable to reach attorney Norm Kent for comment so far. Via e-mail, Thompson told GamePolitics:

              I'm not the one in trouble. The judge found a certain lawyer's material obscene. I absolutely love it. This is the best thing to happen to me in a long, long time. Check my [case] filings, sweetie.

    2. Re:Not to go all homophobe on everyone... by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1
      This is the best thing to happen to me in a long, long time.

      As GGP said, it's filling my mind with disgusting images.

  58. Boycott all Jack Thompson articles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boycott all Jack Thompson articles.

    Why is it that you only hear about JT on tech and gaming related sources? It's because in the real world he's inconsequential, but for those catering to a gaming audience, he's a good source of outrage to be milked at any opportunity.

    These stories have no importance or consequence. Boycott all Jack Thompson stories. Start now.

  59. this should finally get him disbarred by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

    after trying to sue the florida bar for trying to disbar him, this should finally put him over the edge.

    This man is dishonest. He is the most unethical person I have ever seen.

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    They're using their grammar skills there.
  60. But . . . by hawk · · Score: 1

    I don't think I'd want to see him in one of her black dresses . . . :)

    hawkk

    1. Re:But . . . by antirename · · Score: 1

      Hey, I LIKE looking at Ann when she has a black dress on... you just have to hit the "mute" button.

    2. Re:But . . . by hawk · · Score: 1

      Her, yes. But him???

      hawk, not sure she wears anything *but* short black dresses

  61. Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean all I have to do is submit digital images as evidence in a court proceeding, and copyright no longer applies to the images? Hmm... why don't those sued by the RIAA submit all of their MP3's as evidence, thus making them publicly available as part of the court record?

  62. Best ever grammar Nazi comeback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really think that the Internet will erode much of the complexity the English language has, but doesn't need to be understood in the coming decades.

    1. Re:Best ever grammar Nazi comeback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm.. I think the internet will erode much of the complexity of the English language has, but the ones that can't be bothered to learn subtlety and finesse don't think needs to be understood in the coming decades.
      Soon, I expect to be reading the literary equivalents of stone clubs rather than the finely honed rapier wits of yesteryear.

    2. Re:Best ever grammar Nazi comeback by jythie · · Score: 1

      Sort of.

      The internet will erode some of the complexity, but that is happening with or without the internet.

      English, and every other language, slowly drops the aspects of the language that are unneeded and add complexity without adding meaning. It has been happening for hundreds of years, and will happen for hundreds more.

      Historical linguistics is a really interesting field to read over ^_^

  63. Obligatory Monty Python by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...and then I waggled me wig!"

    "You waggled your what?"

    "Me wig!"

    "Oh!"

  64. Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PICS OR STFU!

  65. Simply obscene! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we turn the tables on him and sue him for making these inappropriate images available to minors?

    A simple reference would have sufficed? What if the judge didn't believe him and told him to WHIP IT OUT? Everyone here knows websites GO DOWN ALL THE TIME. His evidence could literally disappear, MAKING IT REALLY HARD to make his case. We should just let JACK OFF. Seriously, pursuing this is just an ABUSE OF THE PENAL SYSTEM. To suggest that we should be COMING IN THE BACKDOOR in an attempt to STICK IT TO HIM suggests that there is a GIANT GAPING HOLE THAT NEEDS TO BE PLUGGED in our legal system.

  66. Would not matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think about it... It absolutely would not make any difference. If he is disbarred he would just find someone else that wants the spotlight and they will work together. I guarantee you there would be no shortage of lawyers willing to do this.

  67. JT: "I'm not the one in trouble." ... WTF!?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the GP article now that it is back online:

    Via e-mail, Thompson told GamePolitics:
    I'm not the one in trouble. The judge found a certain lawyer's material obscene. I absolutely love it. This is the best thing to happen to me in a long, long time. Check my [case] filings, sweetie.
    Yep, he thinks that the "National Gay News" author is the one in trouble, and the judge found said site-runner/author's linked porn obscene!

    More proof on how extremely delusional JT is, and how he needs a real psychiatric evaluation.

    Check my [case] filings, sweetie.
    Given the subject of his complaint, it would not be surprising if that comment towards Dennis(GP's site owner) was intentional. We have always known Jack to be a bigot, while hiding behind claims of being a politically correct person.

  68. An Argument from Thompson by jonathonjones · · Score: 1

    I particularly like this argument from Thompson (found on page 3, point 5) "Recently an Assistant U.S. Attorney, licensed by The Florida Bar, traveled to Michigan to have sex with what he thought was a five-year-old girl. He was able to make that "hook-up" through the Internet, the same Internet through which obscene material is made available to pedophiles. Any person with a brain, lawyer or not, knows that obscene images made available through the same Internet are not only making such encounters more frequent but also more desired." He provides another source later to show the connection between pornography and sexual crimes, but his argument here seems to be this: One pedophile used the Internet to "hook-up" with children. The Internet also has obscenity on it. Therefore, obscenity causes these "hook-ups" to happen more often and be more desired. In philosophy, we call this kind of argument a "bad" argument. Less formally, we might say that it sucks.

  69. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  70. ERROR 101: [Confusion|English Syntax Error] by Christopher_Edwardz · · Score: 1

    Judge Jordan wrote on an issued order: 'The attached exhibit, which includes several graphic images of oral and genital sex between adult males , was filed electronically in the docket in this case, without prior permission from the court... To the extent that the other attorney's alleged conduct is in any way relevant... there was no need for Mr. Thompson to file these graphic images in the public record. A simple reference to the website and its alleged links would have sufficed...'"

    emphasis mine

    I was trying to figure out if this was going to trigger my [salacious|sacrilege] engine, but Judge Jordan seems to need [a|an] [biology|English] lesson. I believe we either someone is not what they appear to be or we have a case of poor English skills.

    The quote should've been "which includes several graphic images of sodomy between adult males".

    Technically, given definitions in modern dictionaries, two males cannot have sex. I know billy boy clinton would back me up on that, but it is true and he was right. He didn't have sex with an intern in the Oval Office given their statements. He sodomized an intern in the Oval Office.

    Of course, I have no idea what kind of case this is, but the attorney putting forward this kind of material is attempting to shock or outrage the jury or judge. Sounds like a standard legal ploy to me.

    As an aside, is anyone shocked by this stuff any longer? And would it have the same tone if it were two females? And can two females, given the (christian biblical) origin of the word commit sodomy if they are enjoying cunnilingus?

    C.E.
    1. Re:ERROR 101: [Confusion|English Syntax Error] by oddfox · · Score: 1

      The quote should've been "which includes several graphic images of sodomy between adult males". Technically, given definitions in modern dictionaries, two males cannot have sex. I know billy boy clinton would back me up on that, but it is true and he was right. He didn't have sex with an intern in the Oval Office given their statements. He sodomized an intern in the Oval Office.

      I must have missed the memo being sent out that clearly defines sexual relations as only being acts that involve vaginal intercourse.

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    2. Re:ERROR 101: [Confusion|English Syntax Error] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear lord, you are retarded. This ain't Iran, boy; sex here is a little more complicated than tab A meets slot B. The fact that you are so damn sure of yourself is proof positive that our education system is failing out of soft-heartedness toward religious bigotry. Someone needs to whack you over the head with either a gender studies textbook or the local penal code until you learn that this was, in fact, exactly the correct terminology for this situation.

      Jesus Christ, please bless this noob. Bless him right in his stupid face.

    3. Re:ERROR 101: [Confusion|English Syntax Error] by Christopher_Edwardz · · Score: 1

      Well... M-W defines sexual intercourse as: heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis.

      Which is the original version and the meaning. (As in coitus.)

      The very term (sexual intercourse) implies a male-female connection. It is a modern shifting of the term to imply sexual intercourse as anything else.

      The secondary definition in webster lists sex + sodomy as a definition for sex. Which would've made sex in texas illegal until recently and probably comes from the colloquial and legal 'sexual assault' addressed in a bit.

      We could ramble on about this, but, yes... sex (classically and I think legally) means coitus.

      However, many states have lumped together a bunch of things under "sexual assault" and this might be where the watering of the term comes from in modern usage.

      Anyway, that's my two cents. I'm not a linguist.

      C.E.

  71. re: poor citation, try again (temptation != sin) by pbhj · · Score: 3, Informative

    I applaud your attempted misreading of your quoted citation:

    Quoting "Is Homophobia Associated With Homosexual Arousal?" (Adams, et al.):
    "Whereas difficulties of objectively evaluating
    psychoanalytic hypotheses are well-documented, these ap-
    proaches would predict that sexual arousal is an intrinsic re-
    sponse to homosexual stimuli, whereas Barlow's (1986) theory
    would predict that sexual arousal to homosexual stimuli by ho-
    mophobic individuals is a function of anxiety. These competing
    notions can and should be evaluated by future research."

    Basically the summary (which this is not) makes it clear that the study is inconclusive for several reasons.

    Incidentally (and I'm guessing this is where you're coming from) being a "homosexual offender" (1 Corinthians 6:9) means doing something sexual to someone of the same sex. If you refuse to follow the stimulus then no "sin" is committed (YMMV). Just as if you're tempted to steal but don't you are not a thief, etc..

    The you-hate-it-means-you-are-one argument is quite an intriguing one (I hate bananas!). It's logically flawed, of course, but is a "stronger" argument for those lacking any factual basis than a simple ad-hominem attack as it's hard to refute against a weak minded opposition. ...

    Of course the reason you hate theists is because you realise the truth about your relationship with god but don't want to admit it. :0)>

  72. A little skit involving Wacko Jacko & Kent Hov by renegadesx · · Score: 0

    Narrator: In A.D. 2007, prison was beginning.

    Jack: What happen ?
    Guard: Somebody set up us the bunk.
    Guard: We get cell
    Jack: What !
    Guard: Main cell turn on.
    Jack: It's you !!
    Kent: How are you gentlemen !!
    Kent: All your butt are belong to us.
    Kent: You are on the way to anal destruction.
    Jack : What you say !!
    Kent: You have no chance to survive make your lube.
    Kent: Ha Ha Ha Ha ....

    Guard: Jack !! Jack: Take off every pants
    Jack: You know what you doing ;)
    Jack: Move butt
    Jack: For great justice.

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  73. God Bless Jack Thompson by crucini · · Score: 1

    Thompson is a modern-day Don Quixote, tilting at windmills. I love the fact that this one insane, eccentric individual can be a persistent thorn in the side of the video game industry. He reminds me of Mathias Rust, the guy who landed his plane in Red Square.

    But then, I'm also inspired by the fact that super-lawyer David Boies, who represented hanging chadster Al Gore, Enron CFO Fastow, and of course SCO, was defeated in court by a self-represented gardener. After burning through 13,000 billable hours.

    Ride on, gentle knight!

    1. Re:God Bless Jack Thompson by demon · · Score: 1

      Slightly off-topic, but am I the only one who finds it funny that (at least that I can recall) David Boies' *only* high-profile "victory" (if it can be called that - it was more a pyrrhic victory than anything) was on the side of the US Government, in the case against Microsoft? It seems like *every* case he's been involved in since then, his involvement is much talked about, but he's universally on the losing side. Where does this wonderful reputation spring from? I don't think it's from reality - at least not this one, as if I was looking for a lawyer, I wouldn't hire him...

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    2. Re:God Bless Jack Thompson by crucini · · Score: 1

      I think of it as Harry Potter Syndrome. I believe sidekick Hermione describes Harry as "the most wonderful wizard ever" or words to that effect. And yet it seemed to me that Harry didn't need to do much to be wonderful - he just was. While Hermione worked hard.

      Turned out that Harry inherited his wonderfulness from his parents, like a strip mall. Or mitochlorions. Or a presidency. He didn't need to do anything, just stand there looking bewildered while various honors and successes were heaped upon him.

      Then we have the CEO's who leave burned-out husks of companies in their wake. Of course they need astronomical compensation; after all, they're heading multi-billion dollar businesses. They're the most wonderful CEOs who ever lived.

      Maybe I am too fanciful in connecting all these dots, but I nominate Boies the Most Wonderful Attorney who Ever Lived, complete with Excellent Mitochlorions.

    3. Re:God Bless Jack Thompson by k8to · · Score: 1

      The commentary on Groklaw was that he had a reputation for spectacular losing cases. If you have a case you're pretty sure you'll lose but you want to make a big song and dance out of it, Boies seems to be your man. I think that seems to fit with some of his clients lately.

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  74. Re:Listen up, libertarians! by ClassMyAss · · Score: 1

    Okay, I'll agree with the mods that the parent was a rather transparent troll and should probably be modded as such.

    That last sentence does have some sort of filthy charm to it, though, to give credit where due...can't say I didn't chuckle, just a little bit. The addition of "rotten" really did the trick, if I had to put my finger on it.

  75. choices: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [ ] tits
    [ ] gtfo

  76. He's a moron by codingmasters · · Score: 1

    Once again, Jack Thompson should get a life and get lost.

  77. MOD PARENT DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is an established fact that Bin Laden hates us because he is jealous of our freedom fries, primetime talent shows and PATRIOT act.

  78. Re: poor citation, try again (temptation != sin) by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I applaud your attempted misreading of your quoted citation:

    And I applaud your ability to spin even the most minor quibble by the authors into a denial of the finding.

    The section I quoted was from the précis of the full article. A summary if the findings, in other words. That summary states clearly that homophobic men were observed to respond to gay sex where non-homophobic men did not.

    It is an observation, where Barlow's paper suggests that anxiety causes the response is a hypothesis.

    If you choose to believe a large collection of random homophobes simultaneously produced boners at a gay stag movie because they were scared, when an equal number of non-homophobes did not, then I'll not argue, but that still lives us with an obvious conclusion.

    Homophobes are either queer or wimps.

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  79. Re: poor citation, try again (temptation != sin) by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

    Whoops, that should be "Barlow's paper which suggests that anxiety..."

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  80. Re: poor citation, try again (temptation != sin) by dr_labrat · · Score: 1

    In other words the "You smelt it you dealt it" argument...

    Good post.

    I think due to the (admittedly decreasing) social stigmata associated with homosexuality there is a societal benefit in a denial.

    This is particularly the case in certain religiously fundamentalist nations, though this is not entirely the case.

    There is a certain case for heterosexual arousal in response to homosexual activities as a survival response; in the words of Team America:

    "Sometimes dicks fuck assholes too".

    In other words, the arousal response can be explained in the sense of using sex as a dominance device as seen with lower mammals such as dogs. Aligning yourself with a dominant alpha can provide benefits.

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  81. Re: poor citation, try again (temptation != sin) by dfghjk · · Score: 1

    There is no "you-hate-it-means-you-are-one argument", there is simply an observable correlation and that correlation is sufficiently compelling to some people. The whole concept of "you are one" is flawed as well. Sexual orientation is fluid and nailing down what exactly is homosexuality is not useful except when making it sufficiently narrow so as to enable persecution. When was the last time someone described himself as homosexual just to give himself the benefit of the doubt?

    Homosexuality is defined by the attraction, not by the action taken because of it and the notion of sin is irrelevant. Defining homosexuality by conduct only serves to lessen the population of homosexuals and make it more easy to hate them. One's heterosexuality is assumed, after all, not defined by engagement in heterosexual activity. Defining homosexuality differently is hypocritical.

  82. Confused Christian by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > Incidentally (and I'm guessing this is where you're coming from) being a "homosexual
    > offender" (1 Corinthians 6:9) means doing something sexual to someone of the same sex. If
    > you refuse to follow the stimulus then no "sin" is committed (YMMV). Just as if you're
    > tempted to steal but don't you are not a thief, etc..

    It is not really relevant, as the accusation of being homosexual in this context refers to being attracted to your own gender.

    > The you-hate-it-means-you-are-one argument is quite an intriguing one (I hate bananas!).

    If you really emotionally hate bananas, rather than just disliking the taste of them, I'd believe some interesting psychological artifact must lie behind. Could it be that they a vaguely phallic, and thus remind you of sides of your own sexuality that makes you uncomfortable?

    > It's logically flawed, of course, but is a "stronger" argument for those lacking any
    > factual basis than a simple ad-hominem attack as it's hard to refute against a weak
    > minded opposition. ...

    In general yes, like many generalizations, but for a specific case, no.

    I came independently to the conclusion in my youth because a (at the time) common "rational" argument for suppressing homosexual practice was that if everyone were allowed to practice homosexual sex, there would be no children, and the human race would go extinct. That argument makes only sense for someone who is attracted to his or her own gender.

    > Of course the reason you hate theists is because you realise the truth about your
    > relationship with god but don't want to admit it. :0)>

    I believe people who hate theist have some deep emotional problems, typically dating back to their childhood, growing up in a suppressive theist environment. Atheism is, by nature, not something the "believers" tend to feel strong about. There really isn't anything there to feel strong about. All the fanatical atheists I have meet have been reformed theists. Their hate is part of their liberation process. Similar to how the most fanatical anti-smokers and anti-drinking people are former addicts.

    1. Re:Confused Christian by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1
      All the fanatical atheists I have meet have been reformed theists. Their hate is part of their liberation process.

      You're right, I did go to a convent when I was a boy, but I'm over it now. Tux does give me a little shiver up the spine when I see him unexpectedly, but most of the time, I can use Linux without anxiety.

      Levity aside, I don't really hate theists, but I do find hypocrisy irritating. We've had close to a decade where hypocritical moralists (like Thompson) have been on the ascendency, and it looks like the tide is finally turning. I'm just taking the opportunity to sink the boot while they're on the way down...

      As far as the gpp's comments go, my original post had no reference to deities at all, so I suppose (s)he was responding to my sig. I personally wouldn't read hatred into it; I chose it because it was thought provoking. I guess some people could see that as an act of aggression.

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    2. Re:Confused Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I look at being gay as a genetic flaw. Or natures way of attempting to breed out a genetic flaw. See by having gay sex, you are not passing on your genes. There has to be a reason your body does not want to pass on your genes.

    3. Re:Confused Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this was true, then the genetic 'flaw' would have vanished millennia ago.

    4. Re:Confused Christian by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily. There could have been some other factors that kept gay people breeding normally in centuries past. Most likely just societal pressures. Evil, yes, by modern standards, but effective, and evolution doesn't care any more than it does for a child created by rape.

      "Gay" gene (or, perhaps, weakened "hetero" genes, whatever) didn't get weeded out because these people mostly still successfully reproduced.

      The next few hundred years could prove interesting, as actual genetic tendencies to not be gay will become amplified. By that point, humans will probably all have lips the size of bicycle inner tubes and breasts the size of cantalopes. Would that I could live to see it.

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  83. Reminds me of... by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    ...a film from the Fifties in which this guy spends all of an hour belittling the porn industry and its perceived effects on minors, while at the same time showing samples which most red-blooded males would spooge all over the ceiling over. As I'm sure, many have.

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  84. Re:Gack! Fix the headline -- quick! by Jarik_Tentsu · · Score: 1

    Phoenix Wright: OBJECTION!

  85. A bit to add by aepervius · · Score: 1

    What most atheist (like me) hate, is not the theist themselves. It is their tendency :

    1) to try to impose their law/will onto other by perverting the law and secularity of the state/school (see dover school and many more example from many countries)
    2) to accuse the atheist of being the cause of the moral dilution/ lack of moral of the modern society
    3) to contend that THEIR religion is the source of moral and atheist by definition cannot be a moral person
    4) their hypocrisy at rejecting science, but using the fruit of thereof (rejecting evolution, using antibiotics to save their lives)

    and so on and so no. In other word it is not the theist themselves which are hated, but the hypocrisy of some of them.

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    1. Re:A bit to add by Attrition_cp · · Score: 1

      I lack modpoints... But you'd get one from me.

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  86. The definition of homosexuality by Loundry · · Score: 1

    Homosexuality is defined by the attraction, not by the action taken because of it and the notion of sin is irrelevant.

    I completely disagree. If your definition were correct, then I think more than half of the population would qualify as homosexual.

    Man A: Suppose there is a man in college who fools around with his college roommate. Later, he goes on to get married and has children and leads a normal and happy life as a married man including sex with his wife and the normal consumption of straight (meaning, containing females) pornography.

    Is he gay? No, because people do not perceive him as gay.

    Man B: Suppose there is another man who has been married for thirty years but has always sought anonymous and clandestine sex from other men.

    Is he gay? No, because people do not perceive him as gay.

    Man C: Suppose there is another man who is partnered with another man and has a cat named "Stonewall" and drives a pink hyundai and lives in the "gay ghetto" and works as a gay activist and instead of speaking regular English speaks English that is laced with chiffon.

    Is he gay? Do bears shit in the woods?

    And that is the definition of homosexuality: you're gay if people perceive you as gay. Usually that assumes that you admit to it, but in cruel cases it happens even if you don't admit to it or even if you deny it. I had sex with Man A and Man B (above), so those two men are not hypothetical. Neither is Man C, but he's far to faggy to be my type. Hence, no sex.

    What about Man D? Man D is partnered with another man for a decade, is an adoptive parent, lives in the conservative suburbs, hates the "gay pride" parade, despises "liberal" politics, and really loves man-on-man action. Is he gay? That depends on whom you ask. It's an open question in the so-called "gay community" whether or not a person who does not ascribe to "gay culture" is truly gay. Man D is myself.

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  87. Re: poor citation, try again (temptation != sin) by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

    I think you may be forgetting that physical response and psychological/emotional response can be totally divorced from eachother.

    For instance, many women who are rape survivors report having experienced physical arousal symptoms while being raped. For many of them this causes some considerable self-doubt and horrible feelings of guilt.

    If we apply your "Homophobes are either queer or wimps" mentality to rape victims (the analogy being physical response to sexual stimuli) I think you can see the absurdity that arises. It makes "she was asking for it" seem urbane.

    More likely, homophobes posess psychological attributes that make them abhor homosexuality. The fact that their bodies respond to that stimulus makes it even worse for them. As with the example of physical symptoms of arousal in female rape victims, being betrayed by your own body can cause severe psychological tension. I am not a psychologist, but where a woman might respond with guilt and self-doubt, a male might respond with violence.

    Something that also is worth noting. Pop psychology states that males are heavily skewed toward visual stimulus when it comes to sexuality, while females are much less so. I wonder how female homophobes would react to the same visual experiment. Come to think of it, are there any female homophobes? :)

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  88. Re: poor citation, try again (temptation != sin) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it's fairly easy to understand the link between religion and fervent homophobes who are gay themselves. Hypocrites? Not really.

    (a) Impressionable child taught about parent's religion. At that time he's probably more worried about his mild desire for his neighbours Xbox, and other "temptation" easily overcome. than whether he prefers Johnny or Jenny and quite happy to accept that Gays are "sinners" or whatever other bollocks his parents / church will tell him.

    (b) Child accepts religion and believes in God and happily does little "sinful"

    (c) Child becomes young adult and hits puberty and, God shits on him from above. He's been good, he went to church, he thought good thoughts, but God has made him a homosexual. These are strong emotions, feelings and drives. This aint "Should I steal or not"

    (d) Result : Adult is, through no choice of his own, everything he's been taught since Childhood to despise. He despises himself and others like him.
    Some might reject the religion. Some might twist what the religion really says. But there'll be a few that twist themselves instead.

    It'd be no different to a pig, if it were Jewish, believing itself to be unclean because of a few thousand year old misunderstanding about the difference between saying something is "unholy" and saying it's "unhygienic". Replace much of those part of the old testament that say things are "Unholy" with "Unhygienic" and it partly makes sense. Albeit its still lacking and flawed compared with science. This is the problem of writing things in stone.

  89. THE INTERNET, probably his next target... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No surprise here if he goes after that, he has just as good of an understanding of it as he does video games.