Apple Announces iPhone 5
Today Phil Schiller took to the stage at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco, where he announced the long-expected iPhone 5. The casing is made entirely of glass and aluminum, and it's 7.6mm thick, which is 18% thinner than the iPhone 4S. It weighs in at 112 grams, which is 20% lighter than the 4S. Schiller confirmed that the iPhone 5 has a 4" display, with a resolution of 1136x640. It's a 16:9 aspect ratio. The screen is the same width as a 4S, but it's taller. To accommodate older apps, they either center the app or add black bars to make it look right. The new device also has LTE support. Tim Cook spoke earlier about the iPad, making some interesting claims: "Yes, we are in a post-PC world." He also claimed 68% tablet market share for the iPad, and says iPads account for 91% of tablet-based web traffic. The event is continuing, and we'll update this post as further announcements appear. A real-time liveblog is being quickly updated at Ars Technica. Update: 09/12 18:16 GMT by S : Further details below.
Further details: for the iPhone 5, Apple also added support for HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA. The dynamic antenna is an improvement over the 4S, and can switch connections. In the U.S. LTE partners are AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint. On to processing: the iPhone 5 runs an A6 chip that's twice as fast as the A5, in addition to being 22% smaller. Rob Murray from EA got up on stage to show a racing game, claiming that the graphics "have been built to full console quality." Battery life for the phone will be roughly 8 hours for either 3G talk-time or browsing. Engadget has a feature-by-feature comparison to the 4S.
The new phone's camera has an 8-Megapixel sensor, with a resolution of 3264x2448. It includes a hybrid IR filter, an f/2.4 aperture, and a five element lens. And a sapphire crystal lens cover, for whatever that's worth. There's a new feature for taking panorama shots (claimed 'breakthrough software,' though similar software already appears on actual cameras), and new software for automatically sharing pictures.
Apple also detailed the new connector, dubbed 'Lightning.' It's entirely digital, and 80% smaller than the old connector. It can be plugged in in either direction. Apple has created a bunch of adapters to let old cables and hardware work with Lightning. They then spoke at length about iOS 6, which will run on the iPhone 5, and demonstrated their new Maps app, which includes turn-by-turn directions (also in 3D using a 'cinematic camera'). "Apple is betting heavily on Passbook and other features to give it a leg up in the competition over Google Android and the upcoming Windows Phone 8." Pre-orders for the iPhone 5 start on Friday, and the device will start shipping on September 21. iOS 6 will roll out on September 19.
Apple's Eddie Cue went on stage to discuss changes to iTunes and the iPod. iTunes has been redesigned to work better on the iPad, and, more importantly, iCloud integration has been built in. They've also made a 'mini-player,' which takes up much less screen real estate. The new iTunes will be available in late October. Changes are coming for iPods as well. The new iPod nano looks like a mini iPod Touch. It's 38% thinner than the previous model, but has a bigger, 2.5" multitouch display. It contains an FM tuner with DVR functionality, it has a Home button, and it uses the Lightning connector. The iPod Touch is now 6.1 mm thick and weighs 88 grams. It has a Lightning connector port too, in addition to the headphone jack. The screen is bigger; it's a 4" display, the same as the iPhone 5. It runs on a dual-core A5 processor that's twice as fast as the previous model. Graphics are claimed to be seven times faster. The battery allows for 40 hours of audio playback or 8 hours of video playback. The camera has been upgraded to a 5MP sensor. The iPod Touch comes in colors now. But not grape. Apple also took the wraps off what they call "EarPods." They're like earbuds, but they don't form a seal within the ear. They let air flow continue, and a tiny speaker directs the sound into the ear. The EarPods will come standard with the iPhone 5 and with the new revisions of the iPod Nano, and iPod Touch.
The new phone's camera has an 8-Megapixel sensor, with a resolution of 3264x2448. It includes a hybrid IR filter, an f/2.4 aperture, and a five element lens. And a sapphire crystal lens cover, for whatever that's worth. There's a new feature for taking panorama shots (claimed 'breakthrough software,' though similar software already appears on actual cameras), and new software for automatically sharing pictures.
Apple also detailed the new connector, dubbed 'Lightning.' It's entirely digital, and 80% smaller than the old connector. It can be plugged in in either direction. Apple has created a bunch of adapters to let old cables and hardware work with Lightning. They then spoke at length about iOS 6, which will run on the iPhone 5, and demonstrated their new Maps app, which includes turn-by-turn directions (also in 3D using a 'cinematic camera'). "Apple is betting heavily on Passbook and other features to give it a leg up in the competition over Google Android and the upcoming Windows Phone 8." Pre-orders for the iPhone 5 start on Friday, and the device will start shipping on September 21. iOS 6 will roll out on September 19.
Apple's Eddie Cue went on stage to discuss changes to iTunes and the iPod. iTunes has been redesigned to work better on the iPad, and, more importantly, iCloud integration has been built in. They've also made a 'mini-player,' which takes up much less screen real estate. The new iTunes will be available in late October. Changes are coming for iPods as well. The new iPod nano looks like a mini iPod Touch. It's 38% thinner than the previous model, but has a bigger, 2.5" multitouch display. It contains an FM tuner with DVR functionality, it has a Home button, and it uses the Lightning connector. The iPod Touch is now 6.1 mm thick and weighs 88 grams. It has a Lightning connector port too, in addition to the headphone jack. The screen is bigger; it's a 4" display, the same as the iPhone 5. It runs on a dual-core A5 processor that's twice as fast as the previous model. Graphics are claimed to be seven times faster. The battery allows for 40 hours of audio playback or 8 hours of video playback. The camera has been upgraded to a 5MP sensor. The iPod Touch comes in colors now. But not grape. Apple also took the wraps off what they call "EarPods." They're like earbuds, but they don't form a seal within the ear. They let air flow continue, and a tiny speaker directs the sound into the ear. The EarPods will come standard with the iPhone 5 and with the new revisions of the iPod Nano, and iPod Touch.
whatever
-Lod
Looks nice so far. I'm glad that it has just a slightly larger size and not something ridiculous like some of the Android phones.
But but, Steve Jesus Jobs said "3.5 inch was the MOST PERFECT EVAAAR phone size"... and all you fanbois were falling over each other bashing Samsung and Android for large screen size. whatever happened to that????
post-PC world you can't code on ios and the screen is to small to do big typing / excel type work.
This. Slashdot stories are frequently months or even years after the event. Why the sudden urgency?
"Rob Murray from EA"
Not exactly awe inspiring Apple, is it? http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/16/rim-standard-resolutions-bb10/
iPhone whatever...but will it blend?
Where are the lawyers from Samsung when you need them?
Its not "sudden urgency." Slashdot stories are also frequently during the event, too.
Slashdot is remarkably inconsistent in terms of the timing, quality, and viewpoint of stories. But there is nothing new about this, or unusual about this story in that regard; it falls well within Slashdot's usual range of variation.
I blame my Mac keyboard, it knows what I'm typing...
What kills me is that people are going to eat that shit up. They don't realize that they hold a PC in their hand which just so happens to have a phone app. My first computer had an AMD k6-2 300mhz processor (I'm 22, see UID), and I was astounded when I realized my OG Droid had double the compute power. It only took a decade for that to go from being the latest and greatest to being in the palm of your hand being used for fart apps. Tegra games already rival the current-gen consoles in terms of graphics.
PCs aren't dead, they're better than they ever have been before.
In other news, Steve Jobs shits his grave knowing his precious screens are used to display black bars.
For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.
Samsung must be laughing their asses off.
Galaxy s3 all the way baby, the iPhone 5 is a lemon.
My T-Mobile G1 has 5 rows of icons. I expect Apple will sue HTC and win over this innovation that HTC obviously stole years ago.
Won't wirelessly stream video to my HDTV
less storage than the Library of Congress
Lame.
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For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.
HD on a 4 inch screen is like expecting Klipsch loudspeaker performance from a pair of ear buds. Now I'm not saying everyone will have the same experience, but I'm already wearing reading glasses (began at the ripe old age of 28) and am happy to be able to focus on anything within 2 feet, I'm not about to care about HD on a puny display.
"What's that little white blur?"
"That's the opposing team quarterback.
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Thats why the rush of suing Samsung to ban their phone or whatever one that could put a shadow over their new one.
1136x640? What kind of crack-smoking resolution is that? It's not any kind of standard and it isn't an integer multiple of the existing iPhone resolutions. I had expected it to be 1440x960 (3x the original iPhone resolution) so that they could keep using the existing Retina Display features, which use simple pixel doubling for noncompliant apps. But what are they going for with this?
The 3 fingered iPhone 5 grip?
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
It's not going to change your life, get you laid
You don't know my wife...
The first iPhone didn't have wireless? Man, that's a crappy cell phone. How far we've come since those salad days of non-wireless mobile communications.
Filing papers in court I suspect.
Don't tell me what new (technical features) your product has.. tell me how it's going to change how I think about mobile communication.
To be fair, the GS3 was released only 3 months ago. I don't know if it would be possible for them to adjust their design in the time between the specs for GS3 being released and their production needing to start. Now not competing with the display on the Galaxy Nexus (also a full 720p display and released 9 months ago)... that's a bit harder to understand.
For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.
leading edge of what?
Apple since their inception has been about bringing computing to the masses. It's been about making user interfaces more intuitive. It's also been about design.
I have never ever seen anything from Apple where they wanted their products to be leading edge in technology.
These sorts of statements are so over-the-top. No ipad is going to replace my desktop at work, nor my gaming laptop at home. Apple's success in the last decade has been in part by doubling-down on particular demographics, but notions like these seem to suggest that Apple's success might clouding their perception a tad.
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What's the problem? You just attach a big magnifying glass in front of the screen, like 'Brazil'.
No, I don't remember that. Because it was CmdrTaco's story for the first iPod.
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1136x640? What kind of crack-smoking resolution is that? It's not any kind of standard and it isn't an integer multiple of the existing iPhone resolutions.
It's an exact 1x the 640 pixel width of the iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and iPod touch 4. As I understand the summary, retina apps will look the same, just with borders on the top and bottom.
I am pretty happy with my HTC One X on AT&T for $100. The SG3 and One X are pretty close, but $200 vs. $100 make it a no brainer.
Apple doesn't general do "firsts", but they are the king at "The first X that doesn't suck"
The original iphone was criticized for not having 3g. At the time 3g was not widely available, and all of the 3g chips were power hogging monsters. All of the first 3g phones sucked.
I've got a 4 and I'm pretty damn happy with it. The 5 looks like a pretty good evolutionary improvement and I might pick it up. (The 4s was not enough of an improvement for me to shell out the extra $)
I've been seriously looking at a new andriod too. The S3 and the HTC X one are amazing devices with lots of great features.. But neither ship with andriod 4.1.
That's the problem. Do I get an andriod with really cool bells and whistles? Or an iphone that has a slick, long term reliable end user experience that I'm used to. I know if I pick the 5 all of my apps, music, messages, mail, everything will carry over flawlessly. Just like with my 4.. And my 3g before it.. I've still got the same music library, apps, and email settings carried all the way from my original iphone and that's damn awesome.
At least not at the moment. But I do want to hear about Apple's *other new hardware*, assuming any exists...
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The iPhone has been falling behind in the past year or so. Competitors now have better hardware and an equally good user experience. This is why Apple has been resorting to lawsuits: in the phone arena, they face the real prospect of losing serious market share to Samsung. The Galaxy S III is competitive with even the iPhone 5 (though its app ecosystem may not be quite as good) and the Galaxy Note is far superior to the Apple phones.
On the tablet side of things, Apple is faring better. There is still no serious Android competitor to the new iPad, with its unparalleled 2048x1536 display. Android fans usually try to respond by telling me that I don't really need a high-res display. This is a losing argument – once you've seen the new iPad in action, low-resolution tablets look crude in comparison. It really makes a huge difference, especially when reading PDFs and web pages zoomed out. None of the competing 10" tablets come close to the iPad's market share. The smaller, cheaper tablets (Nexus 7, Kindle Fire) are indeed cutting into Apple's business, but they apparently have an iPad Mini prepped and ready to go to compete there. If rumors are accurate and it goes for $249 or so, then it's going to get a lot of purchases. On the other hand, it's hard to say how many will be taken from Google and Amazon, and how many will be cannibalized from sales of the full-size (and presumably more profitable) iPad.
I'm hoping that Samsung's next Galaxy Note tablet will have a Retina-equivalent display. If they can do that and keep the price at $499 to open (like Apple did), then they will have a real competitor on their hands. I'd seriously consider buying one.
...Oh, wait.. forget it.
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I install software without going through the App Store. And I don't own a jailbroken device.
But I am sure Apple will be right behind Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony on that feature.
just FYI the "I'm not impressed with the iPhone 5" people are being just as histrionic as the fanbois this time around.
The connector is called Lightning. ahahaha. What's the headphone jack called when it gets an upgrade?
I must concede your point. If your married and your spouse happens to like these shiny toys and you get them one, it just might get you get you laid after all.
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The part I like the best about the iPhone 5 is the new time travel app, that lets you skip back in time a preset duration, ranging from 10 seconds to 1 day.
Helped me avoid all the lines by allowing me to walk into the shipping rooms through a door using a double time skip sequence to avoid the guards.
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60% of the time, it works every time....
4-inch screen, 16:9 aspect ratio, LTE, maps... Menlo Park, start your copiers!
"He also claimed 68% tablet market share for the iPad, and says iPads account for 91% of tablet-based web traffic"
Was anyone else's first reaction to this statement "Wow, that sounds like iPads are inefficient."
i.e., will those grandfathered unlimited plans still work on the LTE network?
How can people get excited by this stuff? The original iPhone was amazing, but surely these 20% thinner/faster/smaller/wider/etc. incremental changes should not be causing the tech world to collectively cream in their pants.
The Onion of course nails this phenomenon perfectly -- starting at 0:21. http://www.theonion.com/video/apple-unveils-muchanticipated-iphone-4se,29489/
Those of us who own shares of AAPL would disagree. Just sayin...
"The only normal people are the ones you don't know very well."
You can see what you are doing on a Pad. and get a full keyboard for typing.
Took one look at the Next step software and figuratively barfed all over the place. I guess the don't know any better fan boys just don't know any better.
"Yes, we are in a post-PC world."
Who is "we"? Certainly it's not anyone who does work on a computer, or anyone who supports computers that people do work on, or anyone who creates things that people use to do work on a computer. Those poor clods are still stuck in the "PC runs damn near every aspect of business" world.
-Lod
Looks pretty sick. I would buy it. What's the memory sizes for the iPhone 5? Are they just like 4S?
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With all of these different versions of iOS and different versions of hardware, Apple is creating Fragmentation! (gasp!)
What is Apple going to do about this?
Why can't old apps dynamically adapt to the new screen size? The iPad has been out for how long now?
Further evidence that this isn't your dad's Apple computer anymore. Back in the early days of Mac, Apple specifically told developers to not make assumptions about the hardware, screen size, processor speed, etc.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
So, I'm not sure if its a good thing that 68% of the market uses 91% of the web traffic. Is it a good thing that iPad users are data hogs? Does Apple think higher numbers are always better?
so disappointed. nothing new.. the same things..
What are you talking about I just pre ordered hers a minute ago.
She says not to forget the milk....
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Apple might be, but "we" are not.
Rob Murray from EA got up on stage to show a racing game, claiming that the graphics "have been built to full console quality."
Apparently, Apple and EA don't think the small form factor lowers the bar for display capability.
Maybe that means that iPad users actually use their tablets and Android owners just leave it in a drawer? No way to know without further statistics so its stupid to draw conclusions.
I will not buy one to fund the "slavery" of Foxconn workers.
I agree. The trade off is that everything else consumer-IT related is also made by forced Chinese labor. (read that: I sure see the name "Foxconn" labeled on way too many of the stuff I purchase.)
PS: I don't reply to ACs.
Well, in 3G might have sucked in the US, but it worked perfectly well here around.
Well, my Nexus does have 4.1.1, no problems. It's a little bit on the small side (with only 4.65" and a little bit more pixel than the brand new iPhone 5), it works surprisingly well, I had the second battery pack and external charger picked up the same day I got it, ...
And yes, personally the non-changeable (by the user) battery is a show stopper. I don't need it often, but I do manage to run the battery dry (especially if I was sloppy about keeping it charged up before leaving home), and fixed battery devices (that includes all iDevices but also many Android tablets) don't offer an answer to that.
Having just run on such a fixed-battery device as primary device, I really felt myself getting paranoid about always having it hooked up to the charger, be it in the car, at home, in the train, and so on. (And despite progress in this relation, there are quite a bit of trains that still have no power outlets, now explain me how you plan to use your iPhone for entertainment on your next 18 hours trip across Europe, I mean you'll be sleeping perhaps 6-8 hours of this, but 10-12 hours usage is still hard). And yes, I've been reading ebooks on my mobile devices years before ebooks become mainstream.
The thing is, I only hear these claims uttered sarcastically by neckbeards and other tiresome people in the geekverse. It's like how I only hear "The Earth is 6000 years old" from atheists. And who gives a shit what connector it is as long as the device comes with a cable and I can get a replacement if necessary?
Back in the day geeks and nerds advocated competition and having multiple players in the market- it's how PCs got so cheap with a zillion motherboard and peripheral makers. People who really care about tech should hope for success for Apple, Android and, yes, Windows 8 phones so they can continue to fight it out. Anything else is fanboy horseshit. Yes, being a basher is simply fanboyism of a different platform- just as bad, if not worse.
Didn't Samsung have a design patent somewhere for 4" rectangles? I mean Apple monopolizes the 3.5"/9.7" rectangle space, but all the other sizes have been introduced before by somebody else?
It is right there in the presentation. Black bars around most apps until they are upgraded.
I admit that is only an aesthetic defect, but aesthetics seems to be a major concern for many Apple fans.
I will.
My buddy's wife will have sex with him only when he brings home a half gallon of ice cream for her. Yes, she's fat. He's happy.
So one more row of pixels would make all the difference for you, then?
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For years now the HDD based iPod Classic has survived new iPods of various names and specs, but it gets at best a mention once a year. Will we still see it for again survive another year? I sure hope so, because HDD based players are getting harder and harder to find.
This is further proof that Google already has a working time machine, in order to steal the revolutionary 16:9 aspect ratio, the 4 inch display design. The original evidence was the roll-down notification bar of course.
It seems to me that iphone length has nott changed, they have just replaced the wide bezel of iphone 4s with screen material.
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A main concern with the iPhone to me is the durability. I've seen countless friends and strangers on the street with shattered or badly cracked screens. You don't need to drop from a significant height (2-3 feet I think), probably just needs to hit at the right angle. The only remedy appears to be to get a bumper case for the phone. If you know how to fix the iPhone yourself you can get parts on eBay etc for less than $50 (not that big a deal I supposed). I know of people who've been quoted over $200 to get it fixed in a shop.
In contrast, my cellphone takes a bit of abuse (its a BB Curve). I've probably dropped my BB several dozen times and carry in my pocket next to keys. I only installed a screen protector. Many other competing smartphones to iPhone all seem to fare well on durability.
With every iPhone model (and smartphones in general all of which can cost $300 - $600+) being thinner and lighter, I'm concerned smartphones as a whole are not going to last very long.
Seriously, go check this out. They're going to print money with this thing.
And that they did...
Ok, but why is it that every single iPhone I see is covered by a huge honkin rubber protective case?
From what I have seen Apple should quit trying to make the thinnest iPhone possible and instead make something that can survive a drop.
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yeah you can write the code on it try compiling it on devise though... oh wait.
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The extra 23% of the traffic is the intrusive ads that no one wants.
Yes. I was grandfathered in from the original iPhone, to a 3GS, then a 4. Recently switched to a Galaxy S3 and kept my plan, even with LTE.
It's close, but 640 isn't actually divisible by 9, so by sticking to that width they can't get a true 16:9 ratio.
Apple's greatest strength and most damning faults laid bare in one comment.
It just works, you know what you're getting, your old stuff keeps working.
Evolutionary, not revolutionary. Does not play well with others.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
If people don't care what apple does, why are they commenting in a thread about it?
Ultimately, this product seems to be one that is geared towards fragmenting their own user-base. It's unhealthy for them as a company, and it's not remotely helpful to the consumer.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
I doubt you could buy a phone (Android, Apple, MS, whatever) that doesn't have a significant portion made in China.
For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.
HD on a 4 inch screen is like expecting Klipsch loudspeaker performance from a pair of ear buds. Now I'm not saying everyone will have the same experience, but I'm already wearing reading glasses (began at the ripe old age of 28) and am happy to be able to focus on anything within 2 feet, I'm not about to care about HD on a puny display.
"What's that little white blur?"
"That's the opposing team quarterback.
An HD screen you mean like something the Zune already had years ago.
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So if the base price for the iPod Touch 4th gen is $199, the iPod Touch 5th gen $299, the iPad 2 $399, and the new iPad $499, what is the iPad mini going to cost? And who is going to pay $299 for an iPod Touch? My 4th gen $199 Touch is great but I'm certainly not upgrading for $299.
That's why RIM is in trouble. I stupidly dropped my 9810 today, nearly 5 feet. Not a scratch; just kept working. Now if that had been an iPhone, that would have been another sale for Apple.
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Apple has created a bunch of adapters to let old cables and hardware work with Lightning.
Oh sure, and they'll be happy to let you have them for only apiece. You'll need at least 5 or 6, of course, since they're tiny and easily lost. This connector thing is the second time Apple has disapointed me with this crap; the last time was when they changed the power adapter for the Retina Macbook pro, for no good reason. Sorry Apple, I generally love your stuff, but that smells like an evil attempt to make a few (million) bucks off over-priced adapters. And it's enough to keep me with my good old iPhone 4.
Deja Moo: The distinct feeling that you've heard this bull before.
>>>Get contacts or have your eyes fixed.
Contacts or laser surgery does Not correct the stiffening of the pupil that causes an inability to focus on close objects. Nice try though.
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This reads like a car ad from the tailfin era of the 1950s. "Pontiac Steps Out Longer, Lower, Wider". This was such a big deal at the time that Pontiac, MI named their main street Wide Track Drive. In 1996, they changed it back to Woodward Avenue, after the Pontiac plant closed.
It's just a new model, with very minor changes over the old model. Does about the same stuff. Get over it.
That dumb bitch Siri that tries to communicate with you.
This morning on the WCBS 2 news, the newscasters did some off the cuff commenting after an iPhone story. Talking about Siri, Mary Calvi frowned, then said, "It doesn't work very well.". She's a smart and beautiful lady, and that was her honest opinion. Glad I went the android route, it hassaved me lots of money.
How about it doesn't work in Australia?
One of the keys to Apple's success is the unshakeable conviction that "Nobody wants X--until Apple figures out how to do it right."
Apple did improve on the iPhone 4S. I like the shape better and find it quite amazing how they upped the precision in manufacturing again by orders of magnitude. ... Awesome detail improvement whilst maintaining that neat design. Once again this electronic fashion statement is going to sell like hot cakes.
Then again, I personally choose the Google leash over the apple lock-in any time and still am enjoying my HTC Desire HD. Great phone, tons of features, very rugged, especially with its neat Otterbox protective case. I'm probably going to use that for the next few years. Its also way cheaper *and* I can replace the battery. ... So to me there's really no need to by a piece of electronic junk every odd year right now.
My 2 cents.
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A good portion of Android tablets are $99 specials with names like Colby that parents buy to mollify their kids... and yes they often get left in the drawer after the kids get tired of them.
Another thing is, most Android tablets (even the big brand name ones) don't have cellular antennas, so no internet browsing away from home.
The iPad is fine for typing or spreadsheets, especially if you get a separate keyboard for longer sessions. Screen size is not the issue... a much more glaring omission is support for track pads. Controlling a cursor via a touchscreen blows chunks.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
Carriers are going to milk this. The iphone on 3G is already responsible for a ton of bandwidth. When the LTE enabled iphone 5 hits, that will go up. That means further strained networks, and customers burning up their puny data plans faster. I'd love to get a real smart phone, but with most carriers colluding on data pricing, a smart phone is an increasingly expensive luxury item.
Now not competing with the display on the Galaxy Nexus (also a full 720p display and released 9 months ago)... that's a bit harder to understand.
Well they've backed themselves into a corner with having absolute pixel positioning, so you can't just arbitrarily change the pixel count like you can on an OS with a UI layout manager. Sorry, let me re-phrase that: on a proper OS. They got away with it once by quadrupling the pixels, but they can't do that again (even if the tech was possible, there wouldn't be any point since we're at the limit of human eye capability). To go to something like 1240x720 would require all sorts of weird scaling, and not look very good. Soooo... what can they do? Maintain the pixel width and add black bars, and put some API for the developers to work around it. I'm very glad I'm not a iOS developer now, I have no idea how they can support that without it being pretty hacky.
"And a sapphire crystal lens cover, for whatever that's worth."
With a hardness of roughly 9 on the Mohs hardness scale, that means it is much more resistant to scratching versus glass. This keeps image quality good, as a scratched lens protection plate will always fuck with the clarity of your images.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Sure it looks good, but that doesn't mean it's not overkill. Have you tried a double-blind comparison with a same-size screen at a lower resolution? Or testing how close you have to hold it to identify lines at the screen's Nyquist frequency? Personally, I find 320x480 on a 3.2" screen to be just perfect (and I have contacts, saw the optician three months ago). Scaling up to 4", that would be 360x540.
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post-PC doesn't mean that the PC isn't around anymore. It just means it's not the main device in most people's lives.
Apple's view is that an app should be hand-customized to support the resolution and screen size of the device
That would have worked back when all Macs had a 512x342 pixel monochrome screen, and it may work on iOS, but Mac screen sizes vary quite a bit as of now. Is the key difference here the fact that iOS apps run maximized but Mac apps need not?
While having two basic shell color models reduces parts supply problems, and allows for quick fixes for breakage, a missing rebrand upscaling of the iPhone 5 is the ability to buy it with shell casing matching school colors.
For example, at the UW Bookstore, you could get a Dawg iPhone 5 with Purple and Gold colors. A part of the proceeds could go to the university or college doing this.
Up till now, most people have settled for fab work done by friends, or used shell cases such as the waterproof rugged casing a lot of my friends who keep them in their purses use, but it's the most obvious thing, other than "signed" cases done by designers such as Hermes or so on.
Face it, if you're going dancing, you probably want the slimmest profile for the phone you can get, as well as a user-identifiable dongle. Just look at the Japanese teen market for ideas in this sphere.
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How about just paying more attention to the battery, and charging it when it needs it?
Lots of fab work is being done in Vietnam, Thailand, and other countries, due to increased costs in China, actually.
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Seriously I don't care if it's thinner. I'll trade a thicker iphone if it gives me a longer battery life.
Ask Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft about it first.
I kind of doubt that someone not buying a phone to not "fund slavery" in China will happily opt to buy one that funds "slavery" in say, Vietnam instead. Just a hunch, though. :)
That said, I only heard that only processes that are cheaper to relocate (like clothes) are being moved so far? Though it is only a matter of time if the labour costs in China keep increasing...
Samsung's panorama feature has been around since at least the Omnia. And it was a function in the Phone app, not a separate app.
Wow, you must live in the boonies, if you don't have any WiFi spots away from home. (Work, stores, restaurants, etc..)
Interestingly, you _can_ do that on Android -- I had a friend write a basic 'hello world' app on his Galaxy SIII within a couple days of buying it, just because he could.
Now, why you would actually WANT to....hell if I know. Maybe if the app you wrote has a bug that you happen to discover while using it in a plane mid-flight while your laptop isn't in your carry-on and you absolutely must fix it right now?
Wow, letterboxing? Really? Really? Did Apple just never learn how to make an API for UI elements that doesn't suck?
Yes, in fact they did it from the release of the SDK.
An app has ALWAYS had to take into account the screen might shrink somewhat for an incoming call; it increases the header size.
The same auto-layout logic (again present since the release of the SDK) would also handle simply expanding an app to fill the screen. Some apps might look a little funny until they get updated, but not too bad.
If Apple had increased the WIDTH, then there would have been major issues as many fewer app developers plan for that varying.
The question is if Apple is going to let apps auto-resize, or if they will present bars until you re-compile and re-submit the app. But the point is that apps already are handling variable heights to some degree so this is not a tricky thing.
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Pretty much. On a small touch-screen device, screen space is precious. Things can't just scale with resolution on an iPhone, for example, as they do on a computer monitor, because a finger is not a precise pointing device like a mouse. And you have only one "window" on an iOS device, while a Mac has multiple windows that you can manipulate the proportions of, so a different proportioned screen is not such a problem.
With all of these different versions of iOS and different versions of hardware, Apple is creating Fragmentation! (gasp!)
Not really.
Going forward, most app developers will target only iOS5/iOS6. The adoption rate is really high, and since most app developers keep support for a release back it helps the users migrate also.
As for devices, you still have only the iPhone screen size to code for, or the iPad screen size.
Yes there is a slightly taller iPhone now, but it's just one more row on a table. Apps have to already adapt for varying heights as an incoming call changes the header height; the auto-layout code will simply adapt for the larger screen area to (for tables there is zero extra work).
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Hopefully not, so we can accelerate the development of HTML5 applications.
Post-PC does not mean OC's are dead; they will always remain.
But you also misunderstand what post-pc means. It does not mean post-pc devices are not general computing devices; they are simply general purpose computing devices that you can use far more like appliances than well, the PC computers (Mac and Windows) you used to know.
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how the fuck do ppl have so many fucking cables? i've had an iphone for a couple years and i've never felt a need for more than the usb cable that came with it. i could possibly see one for work and one for at home if you burn a lot of battery but seriously wtf ppl make it sound like they have a dozen fucking cables
Can you introduce us? I'll bring my phone.
Unlike the 'good old days' when people used to write whole OSes on their phone ?
Maybe that means that iPad users actually use their tablets and Android owners just leave it in a drawer?
Anecdote time: My family has two iPads and four Android devices (Kindle, Nook, etc.). My wife and kids use the iPads everyday. The others haven't been turned on in over a month.
Actually either would via several methods.
Presbyopia can be dealt with either by progressive contacts, or laser surgery for one eye to be setup for close focus and the other far.
Nice try on not know what you are talking about and still being smug about it.
Samsung was waiting for the presentation to have an official confirmation that iPhone 5 will have LTE...
Now, they'll ask for a ban of the device and people who will preorder will take the risk of waiting for ages before having their brand new phone...
So the lines may be quite short after all... Because people want their breand new toy NOW and not in a uncertain future...
At that resolution it looks like utter shit. If you cannot see the pixels then you need an eye exam.
It cannot be double-blind. The difference between 1280x720 and 320x480 on a 4" screen are far to obvious.
For a simple comparison put a 4S next to a rezound. The differences are to obvious for any double blind testing.
I'd like to buy one outright and go w/ a no-contract plan. Anyone know how that works?
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Somebody's jealous.
Indeed, there is absolutely no excuse for not going with play micro-USB like every other manufacturer. How they get away with it in the EU I have no idea.
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Did you see the bit about the battery life - there you go.
. Things can't just scale with resolution on an iPhone, for example, as they do on a computer monitor, because a finger is not a precise pointing device like a mouse.
ummm.... why not? That is how Android does it.
it looks just like the last 5 iphones
Congratulations on completely misunderstanding the concept of double-blind. You're basically saying that it's impossible to do a double-blind comparison of club soda and water, because everyone can tell the difference. Go google it.
And regarding my screen, here is a screenshot taken on my phone. Try displaying it at 100% zoom, and then tell me it looks like utter shit. This disregards the fact that your PC monitor has a lower DPI than my phone, so it actually looks worse on the monitor than in real life.
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My car, and my wife's car - home (one downstairs for use when the battery is low, and one by the nightstand upstairs). I always keep one in my laptop bag, and one in each of my offices (two offices). I keep a couple on my boat (short cable for the helm to use as GPS, and a longer cable in the cabin to charge and watch movies). I also keep one in my travel bag - so when I'm on the road, I don't have to worry about forgetting to pack a charger cable.
My wife and I both have iPhones - so almost multiply these by two for that - and I have an iPad too (I don't have an iPad cable in all these places, but my downstairs charger and my boat I do, for example).
So yes, that's a lot of cables. But for $0.99 a piece - I don't care. When you talk about apple wanting $20 for a freaking USB/Charger cable - that's quite a reason NOT to go with the new phone.
It's close enough that no one cares. 15.975:9 vs 16:9 is such a miniscule difference.
Let's not kid ourselves. The main device in most peoples' lives is the TV, and has been for decades, and will be for decades more.
This is squabbling for second place, and even then, the PC wasn't it. There wasn't a second place until smartphones and tablets created it.
Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
post-PC world you can't code on ios and the screen is to small to do big typing / excel type work.
Ah you do know they are talking about a phone?
What people are complaining about is the lack of an IDE on the iPad. This is only an issue if all you have ever done is simple programs for single platforms. Most of us have done more. For instance, how many Java programs of web pages run only on one platform. Sure if you are a MS programmer this may be true, but for most people they may code on a Mac, but most of the programs are run on PC. This cross platform skill is one that may be lost in time. I know the two situations are not parallel, but the point is. Basic coding and debugging is often platform independent. It is the fact that one can only emulate the iOS that is the difficulty. But even that is not such a big deal. There are now several distinct devices that a program must function on. Even if you coded in iOS, and only had it running on the latest iPad, one would lose the market share of all the other devices.
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I was wrong about it automatically adjusting the app size up. It will letterbox...
But like I said since most apps already have to deal with height changes it will be mostly a re-compile (except for games).
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If things just scaled with resolution, then targets would be too small for easy selection on a retina display. Of course, everything can be made resolution-independent so that objects rescale to a constant apparent size, but that will never look quite as nice as a display hand-optimized for a particular resolution.
It's not going to change your life, get you laid
You don't know my wife...
It sounds like maybe a lot of people know your wife...
To the uninitiated those statements may seem contradictory but you have to understand that that they were only meant for the primitive people of that time and with our better understanding of the glory of Jobs we can see a greater truth being revealed in the living Apple.
How is it hypocritical to hope Samsung gives Apple a taste of their own medicine?
Note: Samsung's upset about a patented technology they actually own and invented. Apple sued over mostly design patents that many places in the world mock because they simply shouldn't be patentable. Also it seems quite likely that Apple's own patents will be overturned on appeal since prior art was ignored by the jury.
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I think you just answered your own question!
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It's not going to change your life, get you laid
You don't know my wife...
Au contraire. I know your wife very well. Every night!
I know what double blind means, in this case it cannot work as the testee and testor will both know which is which. Try to do a double blind test of mud and water.
I'm not sure about Android tab, but my Playbook is definitely gathering dust on my desk.
Very blurry text and around edges of icons. I would not consider that acceptable. Could be my monitor though.
Compare the actual number of subpixels on the two phones. The GS3 and Nexus have 2/3rd the number of subpixels in a regular display (they go RG BG instead of RGB RGB), which makes them seem to have a higher resolution.
sig? uhh, umm, ok
having one eye setup for close focus and the other setup for far sounds like a recipe for crashing my car all the time.
In a nutshell - their new "flagship" is failing to catch up with the innovation shown in Samsung's and HTC's new models. Comparing specs, the iPhone 5 looks like a yesteryear product. Looks like Apple is following Microsoft on a downwards spiral soon - as soon as the current generation of uncritical gullible fanboys dies out.
Then have different versions of textures and the like for normal and retina density classes, but allow screen size to vary somewhat within a single density class. For example, low-density textures could work with had a small screen device with 320x480 pixels or a slightly (physically) larger device with 360x640 pixels, and high-density textures would work on an iP4/4S with 640x960 or a larger device with 720x1280 pixels. Layouts would spread slightly on the larger device, revealing more document between the top and bottom toolbars. That's what Android does.
Yeah. I miss the times when web pages were finely crafted for a specific resolution.
They still are, using this CSS idiom: body { width: 950px; margin: 0 auto }
And I am a post-PC girl!
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Samsung's upset about a patented technology they actually own and invented.
That they ALSO agreed to share under reasonable terms with all other companies making communication devices. Should it be up to Samsung to decide who gets to ship an LTE phone? If so, should LTE really be declared a standard at all? It's not even like Apple coded the thing, they are just using a Qualcomm chip!
That is a far more heinous crime than Apple suing because some devices look essentially identical.
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Nevermind that Samsung also sued Apple. Nevermind that the iPhone was banned for two years in Korea.
What is Samsung supposed to be, Gandhi? If Apple sues Samsung, and Samsung counter sues back in self-defense, is that really "resorting to lawsuits" in your mind?
Who gives a shit? Seriously, this isn't even tech worthy. This would be news if Apple switched to open/standard codecs/protocols to allow interoperability with non Apple devices or they switched to USB 3, or opened the walled garden.
Actually, for a lot of apps it won't be much work at all. I have a slew of apps I develop that all have the few constraints set up properly, I'm more than able to change the size of any of the views and have them resize exactly as they should.
On the other hand I'm glad they don't just scale it without letting the app Opt-In, as I also have products that expect the views to be a very specific ratio (a game for one), and I wouldn't want it just changing that ratio on the game and making our nice pixel art suddenly look oddly sized.
I am sure that it is a nice phone.
It may even outperform top end androids more than a couple of years old. I want to hear comparisons.
It may even use the version of 4G used by over 4% of humanity.
Apples market share will go up for a while as all their enthusiasts get the new "must have" device.
Then it will carry on falling and the 68% of smartphone users using Android increases and the 17% using iPhones will carry on falling.
why?
A couple of reasons but the biggest one is price. For those of us who pay nearly as much as iPhone users it is a bit more tortuous....
There is no ********* way I want to be mistaken for a brain dead, idiot who feels that having a #shiny iDevice will help me reach my aspirations in lifestyle or just becoming one of the "beautiful people"
It's a flaming smartphone, not a passport to a changed lifestyle!
I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
If things just scaled with resolution, then targets would be too small for easy selection on a retina display.
I think you're confused.
The original iPhone had a 480 x 320 pixel screen @ 163 dpi. The iPhone 4's "Retina Display" was 960 x 640 @ 326 dpi. So pixel doubling would work fine. In fact, I'm pretty sure that when you ran an app that did not support the "Retina Display," it did just that. So the UI can scale just fine.
The problem is that bit-mapped graphics don't scale so well. So an image that looked good at 163 dpi will look blurry when doubled. The rule of thumb from my old days with bitmaps was that scaling anything more than 25% will start to show artifacts. So 200% will look ugly. The fact that the pixels are twice as close together, though, will remove the "ugly" and just make it look blurry.
So, other than bitmap graphics, scaling works fine. And there are plenty of ways to set things up so that different shapes work fine, as well. Heck, Apple does this with Cocoa--you can define where controls are placed in the window respective to the edges and to other controls so that if the user resizes the window, the controls move around appropriately.
That said, this assumes that you are using standard Cocoa-touch controls in your iOS app. Of course, most iOS apps are games which take over the screen, draw their own controls, etc., and they have to be sensitive to the shape of the screen. I'd imagine that most of them are not which is why the iPhone 5 will place those apps in a box that pretends it's 960 x 480.
Why thank you, anonymous entity!
"post-PC" does not mean "no PC"
Good. So when the cops ask your wireless provider to block your phone, if its an Apple, it gets blocked. If it's a Samsung, for example, they can just say, "Sorry. Can't do that. Apple will sue for patent violations".
Have gnu, will travel.
Okay, replying to myself after reading the summaries from the stories that came out and I hit the nail on the head. The only thing I missed was the you can plug the proprietary cable in either direction. There really wasn't anything new or noteworthy on this phone other than what I said. (slight bump in the IOS, but that is almost trivial and all iphones get that).
Pretty sad when you labelled flamebait for refusing to kiss Apples ass or refusing to comply with group think. Can we get a 'disagree' button for the fanbois please?
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For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.
HD on a 4 inch screen is like expecting Klipsch loudspeaker performance from a pair of ear buds.
So get an iPad.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Huh. I have a 12 year old dumb phone (will probably get me an iPhone 5 finally) that I have never dropped once.
I think it's because it's a Motorola phone built to the MIL-SPEC for cell phones and can supposedly take some heavy abuse.
I'm sure I'll get the relatively more fragile iPhone and drop it on the way out of the store. ;-)
Or the rest are Kindle-type e-readers that while tablets are used to read books,not for surfing the web.
Who the hell baggage checks their laptop when they fly anywhere? Baggage handlers aren't really known for their excellent handling of baggage. The amount of checked luggage that goes missing is also a factor.
When do we get iphone 5 versions of cases?
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Apple can now sue itself for copying the look and feel of their previous models.
I'd say we're still in the PC world. It's just that the "P" stands for portable now. In fact you could argue it's even more "personal" than the previous "PC".
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The sandbox is now letterboxed
It means the 32% market share for non-IOS tablets may be exaggerated by manufacturers reporting sales into the distribution channel rather than to actual consumers.
Rob Murray from EA got up on stage to show a racing game, claiming that the graphics "have been built to full console quality."
Apparently, Apple and EA don't think the small form factor lowers the bar for display capability.
Yeah, obviously Nintendo is right: same resolution, much bigger screen, that's the way to go. Samsung Galaxy IV will have an 6.5" screen and people will say "finally a phone I can hold with my obese hands". The same people that said the iPhone was too big to use when it came out.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Seriously, I live in Nebraska and I take my tablet with me and don't really worry about cellular. In fact I never would have used that; I'm not paying for a dataplan for it! If I want to I will just tether it to my phone.
An HD screen you mean like something the Zune already had years ago.
Broken Link aside, yeah, a 480 x 272 pixel HD screen, that's what he was talking about.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
The Kindle and Nooks are "fake" android, that is, they are specifically made for certain ecosystems and offer a rather stripped-down experience--mostly geared towards reading. They are analogous devices by any means. I've used my mother's ipad and I can't see why anyone would want one over an android with equivalent power--it's so stripped down and certain tasks on Android are just so much simpler because it's more functional, I can't fathom why someone would want one other than app compability.
Yea, that was kind of my point. I figured the insanity of the rest of that sentence would have been enough of a hint ;)
If money is truly your concern then you wouldn't be signing up for ass-raping contracts with AT&T or Verizon.
I feel I must disagree. If you hold the screen at the right distance from your face, higher resolutions are indeed useful. Maybe it's not great for you, but I sure appreciate it.
Didn't Samsung have a design patent somewhere for 4" rectangles? I mean Apple monopolizes the 3.5"/9.7" rectangle space, but all the other sizes have been introduced before by somebody else?
You do know that design patents don't mention dimensions anywhere? Of course you don't. None of you does.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Having just run on such a fixed-battery device as primary device, I really felt myself getting paranoid about always having it hooked up to the charger, be it in the car, at home, in the train, and so on. (And despite progress in this relation, there are quite a bit of trains that still have no power outlets, now explain me how you plan to use your iPhone for entertainment on your next 18 hours trip across Europe, I mean you'll be sleeping perhaps 6-8 hours of this, but 10-12 hours usage is still hard). And yes, I've been reading ebooks on my mobile devices years before ebooks become mainstream.
That's what external batteries are for - and they work on more than one device too.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Care to elaborate on why it's a bigger deal for you. Do you think the share price will go one way or the other based on this announcement?
Then a user tilts the phone into landscape mode and all that rationale dissapears.
If an app supports rotation it will DEFIANTLY be adjusted to work properly since the form factor is strange on the side and apps that can rotate have been wired out the wazoo to adjust to different sizes.
However most apps simply don't support rotation, or support only limited rotation for a few things like video - where turning to the side causes no issues...
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...for whatever it's worth, jailbreaking can largely close that particular gap. That's obviously not an excuse for the hubris of the Clan of Steve, but it's still... y'know, true.
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Ah, so you can get that particular point in the geek phone pissing content with Apple as well, as long as you jailbreak (And what geek in such a contest wouldn't?) Good to know...I guess. ;)
maybe it means that almost nobody uses tablets after the initial "oh wow, look its a really big smartphone" phase wears off, but there are a few diehard Apple people who just can't get over it. We may never know.
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Oh... glad someone cleared that up. I thought they were using the word "post" in the traditional way and I just couldn't see how it made any sense.
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I didn't know Samsung was so eager to get in a spat with Qualcomm again...
... and so can, by extension, Qualcomm's customers.
does it work for anyone, or just you? :)
There is still no serious Android competitor to the new iPad, with its unparalleled 2048x1536 display.
Ye, there is. Because the Android OEM ecosystem is versatile, you can go with the low-res screens for $50-$150, the standard res screens ($150-$350), or fork out for the higher res screens ($350+) such as the Transformer Infinity (1920x1200, 224ppi) or the Iconia A700 (1920x1200, 224ppi). Yes, they are not 264ppi like the iPad 3, but with a blind A/B test, it's tough for people to distinguish that difference. And these screens can emit brighter than the iPad's (For the Prime, way brighter), and as Big Box stores have found, for many people an enhanced dynamic range with brightness is a often a bigger eye candy sales factor than resolution (cf, 720p plasma screens).
And I'm not even going near Android phone screens, where you run a continuum of ppi screens from crappy through the 200s into the 300s that sometimes are equivalent to exceed the iPhone's 326 ppi and, again, with OLED tech look way punchier.
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but the competitors have been doing it for a while.
while i agree that consuming traditional media (movies etc) on these devices is a stupid idea, that doesn't mean Apple couldn't simply have rounded up either the size of the phone or the density of the screen (whichever would be cheapest). 1136x640 is a dumb screen size and complies with no standards - not even apple's own itunes standards (neither HD or SD). it's not so far from 1280x720 that it would have killed their design to do it.
but then they wouldn't have apologists dismissing it with yet another "who would ever need $FEATURE? it's a phone, not a computer!" handwave.
this matters less than you might think if you're watching video which is has an even sparser chroma sampling of 4:2:0. you could get away with a bayer pattern for video. UI might be a different issue.
I bought an iPad ages ago, was cool for a few weeks and then it went into the draw. Thought I would try my luck with an Samsung GTab 10.1 and after a few months, went in the draw, and now i have the Nexus7 and it goes everywhere with me.
The moral of this? Different stroke for folk. Mind you, Tim's comments regarding the iPad accounting for x amount of web traffic holds absolutely no water as a fair share of these tablets are used in schools (usually with their web browsers uninstalled) or people who know how to effectively use them AS a tablet and not a web browser.
I have spoken to a fair share of ex-Foxconn workers as I am regularly in Shenzen and whilst you read all the stuff about the things that happen in the Apple factory, it's not that bad for every factory within Foxconn.
It's my understanding that Apple merely "rents" space and machinery from Foxconn and that the management and everything else is outsourced. Whether this is a request from Apple or Foxconn I have no idea but it's a bit more settling knowing that not every Foxconn factory is the same.
If you are talking about iOS as I believe you are, that is not true. See mccodemonkey's post above. iOS has supported dynamic positioning since iOS 2.
Here is the link. http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/UIKit/Reference/UIView_Class/UIView/UIView.html%23//apple_ref/occ/instp/UIView/autoresizingMask
Not necessarily based on just the announcement. But knowing the product specs gives me an idea of how well it's going to sell. How well it's going to sell gives me an idea of their earnings growth. Earnings growth = share price growth. Since the phone looks good, I'd say my shares are looking good.
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Exactly!
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Why because they increased by 1.35% (papa can get those new dancing shoes now)? My Nokia shares have almost doubled in value since i bought them a month ago.
I bought mine before the 1st iPad and have continued to buy shares because I had confidence in their long term growth and still do. Can you say the same for Nokia? I buy and hold. Doubled shares in one month is because of luck, not wise investing. If you think it is, then good luck to you in all your investments. Because that's what you're going to need.
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It also depends on what you're doing with it—sometimes anti-aliasing does the job (even if it's a little uglier), but sometimes you really do want high-resolution.
For instance, Japanese phones with very high DPI displays (approx the same as the apple retina) take advantage of the high resolution by displaying complex Japanese characters at extremely small sizes to fit more on the screen. For instance, when displaying a dictionary completion screen, when there are potentially hundreds of completions, it's far more convenient to scan a bunch of characters on one screen (even at small sizes) than to page though a bunch of screens; lower-resolution+anti-aliasing doesn't work well in this application because many characters simply become indistinguishable blobs, and one doesn't have the context that usually allows one to recognize poorly rendered characters.
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What girl wouldn't get excited by an iPhone with the appropriate apps http://gizmodo.com/5295987/myvibe-thighs+on-first-iphone-vibrator-app-approved-by-apple-nsfw ?
Yeah, that works great, if you have only a tiny number of devices (one phone, one tablet, and half a dozen or so older devices "still sold" at best), but it breaks down if you have hordes of different devices. Now if you assume that you alone know what everyone wants in a phone, than you can get crazy enough to go this way.
Btw, starting with phone size, it's personal, and it's partially biological, you know hand size => I've got persons around here that swear never again smaller than 5", and others that complain that they cannot hold a 5" device.
Anyway, a local price compare site shows me slightly over 100 different Android 4 models (Android 4 kind of equals to reasonably new), even if divide it by three to account for different colors/different storage sizes, you end up to over 3 dozen different Androids versus one iPhone.
Basically, Apple's setup of tiny number of devices, hand crafted displays, runs against an eco system that can deliver atypical devices, e.g. Dual-SIM support.
Apple wants to pay the same licensing fees all other mobile companies pay - no more, no less.
How is that not fair?
In fact ALL they want to do is play by the same rules as everyone else and not be treated specially.
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Some people like it. It is a personal thing. Normally you would try it with contacts before committing to that arrangement with laser therapy.
Yeah, I'll be losing major sleep over these issues.
Meanwhile I bought a spare iPad cable a few months back on Amazon for $3.
MiniUSB is the hammer of the geekverse- except that everything isn't a nail.
But, there are FIVE rows of apps. That's the point isn't it? It doesn't matter that there are borders when using apps does it? FIVE rows.. count 'em.
I didn't bother to mention pixel doubling because it doesn't work "just fine." Yes, it's better than trying to scale by a non-integer factor, but it still looks pretty chunky, and was only a stopgap when Retina Displays were introduced. iOS Apps that do not include RD resolution icons are no longer considered acceptable by Apple.
And automatic scaling of non-bitmapped "object graphics" does not work "just fine," either. That's why fonts use "hinting" to optimize display on raster displays. The problem is less on very high resolution displays, so automated scaling may be acceptable on a RD display, but not at anything less than that.
In any case, all of this is quite irrelevant to the iPhone 5, since none of the screen elements need to be scaled, as the resolution is identical to the iPhone 4. The issue is that the additional screen area means that display layout should be adjusted to make optimum use of the additional area--for example, the icon screen now shows an additional row of icons. The best way to do this is very dependent upon the nature of an app's display, so it doesn't make sense to try to do it in an general, automated way. And for almost all apps, it would a trivial job for a human to include a layout for one additional screen size--far less work (and likely a better outcome) than trying a general algorithm to "fit" that app to any conceivable screen shape.
So letterboxing as an interim solution for the few weeks until app developers can post an updated version makes a great deal of sense.
"just with borders on the top and bottom." - The fact that this is at +5 PROVES COOL-AID drinking. Borders are what happens when a resolution doesn't make sense, it's the worst/universal solution for this kind of idiocy, the only alternative is stretching but that looks strange, especially where the colours need to blend.
I can only assume from this that you are one of those guys who zooms letterbox dvds to fill the entire screen and don't care about losing information in the process? I prefer to have the black bars and view the content as originally intended.
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You think post-modernism only came along after there wasn't any modernism any more?
You'll give a shit, when you go spend $50 for your replacement proprietary connector. While everyone else is only spending $6.
Why say something that is so easily falsified? Even from Apple the cable is $19.
Third party, it's less than $1.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=iphone+cable
Not every display is a list. Apple's solution gives you a pixel-perfect display for older apps, insuring that no apps "break" on the iPhone 5. There is no automated routine that could promise that. And if you've ever looked at Apple's development environment, you know that telling an app to include a longer list on the iPhone 5 will be literally a few minutes worth of work. The only ones where it will take any appreciable effort on the part of developers are the very ones for which an automated routine wouldn't work.
The iPhone 4 does not introduce a new screen resolution--it's exactly the same as the iPhone 4. So a "universal" app (that runs on all iOS devices) needs to accommodate 4 resolutions (same as before) and 3 screen layouts (one more than before). Wow, what terrible fragmentation!
It looks ok, but it's nothing special. Apple will keep their loyal followers, but don't expect the market share to grow.
1) iPhone 4 users 2) China 3) Brazil I FULLY expect the market share to grow. Furthermore: 1) iPad mini 2) iTV I fully expect the earnings to continue to grow.
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How about just paying more attention to the battery, and charging it when it needs it?
Not good enough. I have an android phone, bought 2 extra batteries on Amazon for 15bucks, delivered. So now I don't have to sweat running out of battery if I'm not able to get to a plug. You ever see people freak out when their phone dies on them again before the end of the day. Nope, not me. If it doesn't have a removable battery, I ain't buying it.
For me one of the big upgrades with this phone is the Maps application. Getting turn by turn directions is one of the main reasons that I switched to an Android phone. Google maps is fantastic for that and I wasn't about to pay Apple or AT&T a fee every month for something that comes free with the Android phone. Now that the new iPhone comes with this feature all that remains to be seen is how well it works. Being able to do Facetime over 4G is nice but it only works with other iPhones...well, that and I can see that eating up a lot of your monthly data stipend. Faster processor (A6) should make it a bit snappier. There appear to be some improvements with the camera optics so that might translate into better photos although, honestly, the photos I have seen from the 4S phone are really good already. Apparently the new headphones are a nice improvement over the old ones.
Now for the bad part....
1) You still can't add storage via MicroSD. This has been discussed on other threads here and it's still one of my pet peeves with the iPhone.
2) You still have to use iTunes to get anything on or off the phone.
3) It appears that the battery is still not user serviceable. That means another trip to the Genius Bar for something as simple as replacing a battery.
4) I'm not sure I like the idea of the new connector. Ok, it's got the reversible (idiot proof) hook up but now all of your previous ones are obsolete. If you want a second cable be prepared to pay through the iNose for it. Apparently they needed the space so the connector is smaller now. I wonder if it charges any faster or is it just newer and smaller?
I know why Apple is doing this I'm just not good with it. I like having more control of my phone. Having said all that, it looks like a nice upgrade for the iFans out there.
Until Jobs is dead, need to wait a while til they show us the body so we can confirm he isn't living in some tropical paradise with 2-Pac and Aaliyah
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Yes because the Post-PC would is inhabited only by developers. Yeesh.
as i recall, my post-graduate studies began only after my graduation had been completed. yet I don't believe it would have been accurate for me to declare that "we now live in a post-graduate world" in my commencement speech. for apple to claim we are in a "post-pc" world is similarly ridiculous. they might call their gadgets "post-pc" gadgets, and they might even be right, but the world in general is decidedly not post PC.
-Lod
the world in general is decidedly not post PC.
Not yet, but it's certainly heading that way.
the world in general is decidedly not post PC.
Not yet, but it's certainly heading that way.
I see little evidence of that. Something may replace PCs someday, but it certainly won't be any of the gadgets we have today and it probably won't be a tablet at all. Current tablets are good for very simple tasks and/or very simple users. Mostly home users that don't have need to do any business tasks. That is a space that PCs never served well in the first place. Tablets are horrible for anything more than a very lightweight business use, and this is a massive arena the PC dominates. As long as business is based on PCs, it's a PC world no matter what you play with at home.
-Lod
I see little evidence of that.
How about: Apple sold more units of it's tablet than ANY PC manufacturer sold of all their PCs lines added together last quarter.
...and yet ~90 million PCs are sold every quarter, compared to 25 million tablets in Apple's best quarter. Picking a single manufacture of tablets that enjoys a massive majority market share and comparing it to individual competitors in the PC market makes little sense (unless, of course, you're looking for flawed statistics that at surface level seem to support some argument).
Despite the fact that PCs have a longer lifetime, higher cost, and a marketplace that is very much saturated (it's a wee bit harder to sell something when all of your potential customers already have one), PCs still move nearly 4x as many units every quarter.
Sorry, not buying the hype.
-Lod
PCs still move nearly 4x as many units every quarter.
Now consider that sales of Apple's tablets are a fraction of their sales of smartphones. And Apple aren't even the largest smartphone manufacturer. Smartphones vastly outsell PCs, and have done for some time.
i.e. Non-PC general purpose computers already vastly outsell PC computers.
so now "post-pc" also refers to smartphones? Thats odd, since smartphones have existed for 15 years (yes, long before Apple invented them) and the term "post-pc" didn't show up until the recent tablet fad. Never heard anyone theorize that smartphones will replace the PC.
I don't doubt that someday something will do what PCs do better than PCs do it, and at that point we will see a post-pc world. That isn't going to be tablets and its not going to be smartphones. It would take something significantly better at doing the things business does than either of those are. Right now we are in a "PC plus" world. There are other computing devices that do new things, or some things in new ways, and they are very good for that. However, the PC's role as a primary business tool used by people in almost every position of almost every company in the world is not going to change simply because we've invented some new gadgets.
-Lod
Now? They always were. If you didn't know that then that's your problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-PC_era
I don't doubt that someday something will do what PCs do better than PCs do it, and at that point we will see a post-pc world.
You're missing the point. It's not about replacing the PC with a single device. It's that the PC will (and in a way already has become) a minority device, vastly outweighed numbers and in time spent using them by ubiquitous computing in many other sorts of device. And whilst the term post-pc wasn't coined until recently, that concept was the topic of Donald Norman's book "The Invisible Computer" published back in 1999.