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Despite Outrage From Users, Microsoft Continues To Install Bloatware Applications Onto Every Windows 10 PC (windowscentral.com)
Before Windows 10, a clean install of Windows only included the bare essentials a user would need to get started using their PC. With Windows 10, a clean install stays that way for about two minutes, because the second you hit the desktop, the Microsoft Store immediately starts trying to download third-party apps and games. Users have long complained about it, but it turns out Microsoft never put paid to it. Windows Central writes: And these apps keep trying to install themselves even after you cancel the downloads. There are six such apps, which is six too many. These apps are often random, but right now they include things like Candy Crush, Spotify, and Disney Magic Kingdoms. You should not see any of these apps on a fresh install of Windows 10, yet they are there every single time. There are policies you can set that disable these apps from automatically installing, but that's not the point. On a fresh, untouched, clean install of Windows 10, these apps will download themselves onto your PC. Even if you cancel the installation of these apps before they manage to complete the download, they will retry at a later date, without you even noticing. The only way I've found that gets rid of them permanently is to let them install initially, without canceling the download, and then uninstall the apps from the Start menu. If you cancel the initial download of the bloatware apps before they complete their first install, the Microsoft Store will just attempt to redownload them later and will keep doing so until that initial install is complete. This is not a good user experience, Microsoft.
I don't understand tech people that still uses crap like Windoze...
You will be assimilated.
Sorry, couldn't get past the blatant lie in the first sentence. Windows installs have included bloatware since at least Win95 OSR2.
There's no real outrage - people still keep buying the accursed thing in massive numbers. If anyone was really outraged, they would get something else.
This is a frustrating aspect of win10: lack of control over what programs are installed on your machine. I don't primarily use win10, but for machines I have set up I think I solved the problem by disabling automatic updates in the Windows Store. Of course, this means updates are..disabled. Perhaps others have a better way to handle this?
In any case, disrespectful behavior by Microsoft.
No, step away from the mirror.
They probably paid Microsoft more for access than you did for your operating system. Enjoy being captive to this new customer experience!
Probably not, but we are investing heavily in creating custom scripts to remove all of this crap which we'll have to re-run after every feature update.
"Enterprise" edition my ass.
The difference is that Microsoft actually installs some of these applications, like Candy Crush.
MacBook "Pro", iPad "Pro", Windows 10 "Pro".
All have nothing to do with professionals.
You didn't ask for them, they take up bandwidth (Though presumably the windows store won't download or update apps without asking if you're on a meterd connection - But good luck trying to tell windows you're metered before the first login lol), they take up storage space, they put their dumb icons right on your start menu..
You could call them bloatware, but they're not quite as bad as the old pre-load bloatware of the XP and Vista bad-old-days.
They're windows store apps, so they live in that safe little user mode jail. No crap left around in your system folders, half-registered DLLS or shell extensions dangling int the breeze filling event logs with errors every few seconds. They're not even as bad as phone bloat, which can make unwanted apps part of the system image and non-removable.
It is pretty dumb that they auto-download without asking. Microsoft has a lot of other problems to fix with their really bad store first. (Pretty much any non-trival large application is a nightmare to deal with because installs and updates can fail silently.)
Water still wet, fire still bad, small green creatures from Alpha Centauri still small green creatures from Alpha Centauri.
they also mess-up sysprep as well.
Windows 10 and other Microsoft products forcibly spying on you is not enough for the company.
Oh, forcing you to give your identity to use a freaking Office/Word Processor? WTF?
Google, Apple, heck even Roomba are all in the evil territory now.
I have been using the PowerScript decrapifier by csand on new installs, and it is amazing.
A word of caution: Run the script while the computer is unplugged from the Internet. Otherwise, Store tries to install while the script tries to uninstall and may miss something.
I just finished setting up a nice i7 32gig ram nvidia 1050ti gaming rig under Linux Mint 19. Steam downloaded all the games and with the new Proton thing I'm getting Windows titles as well for some things. Keep on truck'n Microsoft... I'm not impacted by the downloads and if other people want your OS that's their problem.
I feel bad for all the "lusers" (M$ term). I feel bad for me because I continue to support their networks for the time being. It will be a very happy day when I can rid myself of the Micro$oft support guy and go full on Linux + F/OSS for my endeavors.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Only LUDDITES would be mad that Appsoft apps apps while apping other apps, including Appy App Saga!
Apps!
"it turns out Microsoft never put paid to it"
Am I having a stroke, or does this make no sense?
I moved to Xubuntu.
Before Windows 10, a clean install of Windows only included the bare essentials a user would need to get started using their PC.
Like a media player with a music video.
And solitaire.
And come together to force Microsoft to release a non shit version of Windows 10. We know we can't fight Microsoft in court (we tried before). We need drastic action. I say we release a virus that mass installs Linux on computers and tell them that Microsoft upgraded them to Linux because Windows is shit.
You could give the app 0 stars, flag it as auto-installing cramware or play some Candy Crush and share your experiences with your friends and family on Facebook. Really it is great once you try it, your family will feel connected with you knowing that you care enough about them to let them know the status of your gaming.
Switch to Linux? Ha-ha.
Microsoft doesn't care what users think. Anyone who is surprised at this is just being silly. Microsoft has shown no desire to actually cater to users. Edge is quite possibly the most horrible web browser ever produced and they force it upon users. Windows 8 interface was a total failure, yet they still crammed it into the Windows 10 menu. These are only some examples. Microsoft has no motivation to actually make positive changes for end users.
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What the article fails to properly address is the massive outrage that Solitaire now *REQUIRES* internet access. No more plinking away at quick hands when the network is recycling, or a PC is being scanned. Ugh.
While this would be absolutely inexcusable behaviour for an OS, it doesn't match my experience with Windows 10. I haven't seen any unusual apps show up. My system looks remarkably clean. Almost suspiciously so...
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The only usable build of Windows 10 is the Windows 10 LTSB edition.
You get fucked with the bullshit consumer editions, get used to "windows as a service" garbage, and this includes the all the fun apps that your kids will run because it looks cool.
Staying Windows 7 until 2021, or until DOJ breaks them up.
There is no real way to stop this. Sadly regulators in DC decided that Microshit wasn't worth breaking up.
Easy fix for this. Windows 10 LTSB/LTSC.
No.
Substantially normal people do not, in fact, see 'Trump' in everything.
Just the trolls, the disaffected Leftists, and of course you, who clearly forgot to post Anonymous.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
I honestly don't understand the issue at all. While the automatic Windows updates were a big problem for me, a problem which resurfaced a few times, I have never had an issue with the app store. I do not even have a Microsoft app store login. My Windows 10 has never tried to automatically install any apps.
Since buying this laptop a year and a half ago, I've done two Windows upgrades on it. Both times Cortana, Edge, and a few other built-in bits that are hard to remove showed back up, requiring install_wim_tweak to remove. But no app store programs have ever appeared.
Windows Update, though, was a huge problem for me. Microsoft doesn't get free reign to put updates on my computer, I vet each one and apply them. Microsoft has been pushing hard, especially with its last two "upgrades" to prevent people from disabling automatic updates. And I mean they have gone to heroics. Two "protected" windows services which have no other real duty except to look out for if the Windows Update service is disabled and undisable it. Also a whole host of task scheduler settings are doing the same thing. For those wanting control of Windows Update back, I highly recommend Windows Update Blocker in concert with Windows Update Mini Tool. There are several forum threads that speak toward how to do this relatively easily.
Quick, Quick! Spam some content-less anti-Microsoft stories!
Why do people complain?
There are so many great apps that would never get any attention without this.
I'm not a power-user and I depend on Microsoft's help and guidance.
If this pesters some people, maybe they should use a different computer.
I hear good things about Apple.
It's annoying but it's been a growing trend for a long time. Android phone makers are far worse in shipping unremovable random software. I remember years ago being infuriated that Linux distributions started shipping huge amounts of software as compulsory installed components (and even more as default options), while OSes like Solaris would still default to a minimal base install.
Having a system assume you want Python installed is less annoying than one assuming you want Candy Crush installed, but only marginally.
Anyway, it's an unstoppable trend.
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Before Windows 10, a clean install of Windows only included the bare essentials a user would need to get started using their PC
Really? There wasn't a huge lawsuit about this?
Secession is the right of all sentient beings.
The installation is probably a part of Microsoft field measurement package.
Fuck you, Microsoft.
As of late, there have been alternatives for users to move to another operating system within the past 2 years now. The concern is this could potentially force consumers hands into make a decision sooner rather than later.
I play solitaire on my Windows laptop. No internet required.
A 17” laptop makes a nice card table once you close the lid, but you need to use small cards.
The even more ridiculous thing is that this happens even on the Pro version. The one that's supposed to be for doing work. And those "policies you can set that disable these apps from automatically installing"? Yeah, they don't work anymore. As a result every employee gets Candy Crush and the like installed on every machine. Absolutely insane.
Yes, Windows 10 is a [...redacted...].
The document you're looking for is here, if you're stuck with it:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-...
I don't understand tech people that still uses crap like Windoze...
Then study up on network effects.
I'm running win 10. I don't see any such thing.
Millions of people enjoyed playing the default solitaire under Windows 3.1, why would you complain about games in the default install?
"this is a product that exists, if you take action you can choose to install it"
vs.
"a product has been installed without your knowledge, if you remove it it's going to come back"
If anyone was really outraged, they would get something else.
That implies that there is something else for them to get. There really isn't. Microsoft was convicted in court of having a monopoly. Do you know what that word means? It means there aren't other options on the PC. The only other options are linux which perpetually lags Windows on the PC desktop in application options and the OS X which is both pricey and ties you to Apple. Both linux and OS X are fine options for some but as much as it irritates me to say it, Windows is the best offering available for a lot of people and companies. A lot of software people want is only available on Windows. If the people around you use Windows chances are high you will too. If you play games on your PC it's a virtual certainty are you are running Windows to do it.
"Grooming" will not recover the $10 per GB that your satellite or fixed-wireless ISP bills you for having downloaded the apps in the first place.
...I recommend Windows for gaming, and only for gaming. You really don't need it for any other purpose.
Finding God in a Dog
It happens when a new user account is created too, after already removing it from the primary user account.
Don't worry, RBG, who says the age of consent should be lowered to 12, will "age out" soon.
Dear Microsoft User,
Understand one thing.
You are the consumer, NOT the customer.
In short, Fuck You Very Much, and Have a Nice Day.
- Microsoft
1. A program tries to install or update even when you select no.
Windows 10 did this on upgrades from 7. Even when user selected the red X button.
2. You notice bloatware/unwanted programs.
Windows 10 does this. See this article.
3. You notice unwanted search suggestions/your default search engine is changed.
Windows 10 Bing will try everything in its power to fool you into using it.
4. You notice large amounts of external connections sending personal data not required for any sort of normal function.
Yes Windows 10 does this too.
5. You lose control of your security/admin rights on your PC.
Windows 10 home pushes updates to core code without your control.
Its not just Windows 10. Check out other lovely MS products like Office 365. Try to install it without Skype or One drive.Care to wonder why you can't install just the regular Office apps without going through a lengthy process to disable Skype and OneDrive? Review your terms for Office. They legally own the right to view/modify/access any content created or used by MS Office apps. Skype let's them have access to all of your conversations and video. They arnt simply satisfied with viewing your Excel and Word files anymore.
This is not some rant to say Linux/OS X/Android is better. I'm just saying by law you lose all rights to your personal data and privacy when you install Windows 10. If you think they arnt interested in YOU because you are a nobody than why do they go through so much trouble to collect it all? If companies pay software engineers to design functionality you better believe they intend to use it.
No, "clean install" means installing the OS from scratch. It does not imply "random hardware" nor does it exclude buying hardware. If you do not already have a computer, your "fresh install" of Linux also requires you to buy the computer.
No, it's Microsoft. Install a fresh copy of Windows 10 Home or Pro with an ISO file downloaded directly from Microsoft, and you still get 3rd party Windows 10 apps from the Windows store downloaded by default. Even of self built, generic hardware.
Once you install Windows 10, you no longer own your computer. Microsoft can install what ever they want on it, and reboot it when ever they want. That also gives them the ability to remove anything they want from your computer.
there are 3 kinds of people:
* those who can count
* those who can't
Meanwhile, in a saner world, I'm getting the kinks worked out of using Ubuntu 18.04 with a Virtualbox install of Windows 8 (to support the whole TWO Windows-only apps I need to keep using), and IDGAF about Windows 10 -- and never will. Why aren't you doing the same?
Not being a flock member, & all... Baaaaa.
Nonsense, either get an Enterprise license
How many PCs does a company need before it qualifies to buy Windows 10 Enterprise licenses? And how much does it cost per seat? In my experience, "Request a Quote" as stated in Microsoft's comparison page means "if you have to ask, you can't afford it." The "Learn More & Try" link ultimately links to an ROI calculator, but I could not try the ROI calculator because it was blurred out by a modal dialog that requires the user to submit personal and company information and authorize a Microsoft salesperson to contact the user.
or just uninstall the apps
Just uninstalling the apps doesn't undo the fact that having downloaded them in the first place counts against the monthly data transfer allowance that your ISP imposes.
Funny, I thought it was Santa Yoda
Don't logon to Windows with a MS account and you won't install that crap... Use local user logon or whatever the fuck mickeysoft calls it. Better yet install Linux.
I confirm that even Enterprise Win 10 does this by default and you have to create policy to stop this from happening.
There is an easy fix for this that does not require anything too difficult. Use gpedit,msc and turn off all cloud content settings, then force a gpupdate. Remediate the crap that is there and you are done. Also, there are several good powershell scripts on spiceworks that will remove just about everything. Combine the two and things are good again. Also, when I set up new Windows 10 machines, I do not connect to a network until the above steps are completed.
Conservative, mod down for violating
Microsoft's shittyness reached intolerable levels (for me) during the Vista fiasco about 12 years ago, and I've stopped purchasing Windows. Instead I download and use pirated versions of Windows that have the phone-home "features" disabled and the worst of the bloat removed. The pirate groups that I recognize do an excellent job and also are quite trustworthy (that is, they don't put virus or trojans on it and is safe to use if you get it from their site).
Like many, I have a number of applications that are essential for some of my activities that run only in a windows environment. I would love to have VMS as my OS but... and yes, I have used and loved Unix and its children and even some traditional IBM systems. Reliability is a big factor in my book and the current Win10 is a descent into Hell.
In addition to the persistent bloatware that keeps coming back (I refuse to authorize access and then uninstall) there is another cute feature:
In tracing down errors in my errorlog, I discovered that there is a thing called the beta app flag -- if it is set to some value, apparently, new features are quietly being tested. The details were where ESENT was failing hundreds of times an hour -- running because the beta flag was x8000 or somesuch. Found a bunch of stuff on the MS site but no response to the question.. what is this flag and why is it there.
"LTSB is a licensing option for Windows 10 Enterprise and is available only for customers with a Volume License agreement."
Not such an easy fix.
Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
>> " This is not a good user experience, Microsoft."
Yep.
Microsoft never gives a good user experience.
Did you expect something else ? why ?
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If you read the EULA, you will clearly see that you authorize Microsoft to perform unattended software installation. If you don't want this to happen, don't buy Windows.
Kinda like Republicans still see Obama everywhere.
I watched this video immediately before opening slashdot and seeing this story. By coincidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I actually already knew something about this. Just happen to see Linus' rendition. Not Torvalds. The other one.
Seems like Valve really has had it out for MS going to back windows 8. Now there's really no reason to run Win 10 any more. Unless you want to manage hyper-v.
"UNIX is very simple, it just needs a genius to understand its simplicity." -Dennis Ritchie
I mean, people keep getting Windows despite all the abuse they are subjected to.
As a vendor who sells Windows pre-installed on my machines, I am outraged by this! Microsoft should be pre-installing MY bloatware, not someone else's bloatware! I demand that Microsoft automatically install 3 firewalls, 4 backup utilities, 2 CD burners, 30-day trials of all Intuit software, plus a free office suite that can't open any formats you've ever heard of.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is real!
And you can buy them as a small business/home user how? These are Enterprise-Agreement/Licensing only.
I was going to joke about how Candy Crush is so 2012, and then I saw they're still pulling in hundreds of millions of dollars per year with around 300 million active users a month (at least at the end of 2017). So uh... I guess for a large part of the population, it's still a key application that should be standard...?
Your computer belongs to M$.
Will, I did see 'trump' in the post...
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Keep calm and buy a Macbook.
The thing is, you simply can NOT buy Win 10 Enterprise unless you are a large company. They sell licenses starting with 50 users.
Did no one else notice this is from February? How is this "news"? I know it's still happening, but come on, did someone just feel like digging up anti-M$ dirt?.
No, a clean install is taking a system and wiping the drive and installing a brand new install without addons that you do not pick yourself.
you can actually boot from the internet and do a clean install of mac os. been that was since at least 2013... I had a mac pro back then i did this with. I cannot remember the key boot sequence, but you hold down i think 4 keys and power on and it would ask to connect to wireless and then boot from internet image at apple.
"Before Windows 10, a clean install of Windows only included the bare essentials a user would need to get started using their PC. With Windows 10,"
False. Even Windows 95 came pre-loaded with AT&T WorldNet, AOL, MSN and games. The Disney Channel bar got added in Windows 98. This isn't all that new.
And Microsoft wonders why so many companies are still using Windows 7! Here's a hint: I don't need Candy Crush on my work computer!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
> Candy Crush, Spotify, and Disney Magic Kingdoms
I see those all the time on machines friends/relatives have purchased from OEMs.
I can't say the same for any of my own machines, which are all running from the Windows 10 ISOs I get from MSDN, or those I've purchased retail.
You get what you pay for. OEMs get extra money by pushing third-party titles. If these bother you so much, then sometimes that "tax" is worth paying. Not seeing anything from McAfee after a clean install is bliss.
This is not a good user experience, Microsoft.
You're assuming that Microsoft wants to give you a good user experience. They do not. They want to make money. And since Candy Crush is paying them more than you are, this is the result.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
Thanks for giving me the push to finally move my computing infrastructure to Linux/BSD.
So there is this handy little utility called the MSMG Toolkit. You'll have to make a junk login for the forum but it's well worth it. https://forums.mydigitallife.n... Basically, you can modify your ISO so annoying things like Windows Store, Cortana, Edge, every single app, all kinds of things just aren't there when you do your clean install or upgrade from DVD. Not "disabled"...I mean not there at all. It's not the most user friendly thing in the world but there is a handy youtube video where the dude walks you through it. It's like of like that old utility nLite for windows XP except without a pretty GUI. Makes the new Windows 10 experience a lot more tolerable.
Same bloat?
WINE 3.16 (and Lutris) on LinuxMint Cinnamon? All my games work. I've tried over 2 dozen games and most of them are in the most played titles. I am running a dualboot setup for now until I get all my data off the Windows, but gaming on Linux late 2018 is now viable. That was my ONE blocker to going all in. And that barrier has been crushed with DXVK and soon vkd3d (which wraps vulcan around DX12 calls). For any novices set it up install Lutris and get your game on.
If you are installing Windows with an ethernet cable plugged in then you are doing it wrong. You always install without a network connection. Then you install all policies. Then you reboot. Then you plug the cable in.
pls open bobs and vagene
pls open candy crush and spotify
Hey, this is annoying. It sucks to have bloatware installed automagically. But what is much worse? The fact that I can't organize the Start Menu anymore. All of the bloatware Windows Store Apps such as "Mixed Reality Portal" are at the top level of an alphabetical list. I can't put them in a subfolder labeled "Crap" ... or, as I label it in the Apple domain, "iCrap"
If there's software to connect to the Internet, your drive isn't wiped.
I don't respond to AC's.
Obama generate syndrome is like that.
Still waiting for a birth cert.
At least most in question can be easily removed, its the apps that cannot be removed that trouble me the most. I don't think the user should be locked out of removing Mail, Edge, Cortana function or other Microsoft apps that in many Win 10 issues cannot be removed.
You are the resource.
There isn't money in selling operating systems anymore (or really for the last 20 years). It's all about the bundling deals with partners.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
You can get a 90 day free trial of LTSB never tried using it past the 90 day limit. Does it work past the 90 day limit?
Easy solution: Uninstall the Windows Store completely (along with anything else you want gone listed in this link):
https://www.laptopmag.com/arti...
Store: Get-AppxPackage *windowsstore* | Remove-AppxPackage
You have the same relationship with almost any of the auto-updates sources you likely have enabled, regardless of OS.
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This post is very confusing to me. EVERY Windows 10 PC? I've been using Windows 10 for years and NOTHING from a third party has EVER been installed automatically onto my machine. And by "machine," I mean a half-dozen different machines. I'm on a Windows 10 machine right now and none of the listed applications is installed on it. I last bought a brand-new Windows 10 machine in June and none of these apps is installed on it, either. So where is this idea coming from? I'd really like to know.
Breakfast served all day!
Switch to GNU plus Linux! A winning combination
I really doubt that Microsoft is doing this.
I don't. I found Candy Crush on my Win 10 system after the last (and I mean last) forced update when I was looking in Defender for a way to open a hole in the firewall. There was a hole for Candy Crush there. Huh?
You can't buy a "mac OS" DVD and install it on some random hardware, which is what a "clean install" means in common parlance.
"Clean install" means installing onto an empty hard drive, not "random hardware". Windows doesn't run on "random hardware", either. Yes, you can do a clean install on MacOS. I've done it when I had to replace a failed hard drive on a Macbook.
Running OpenSUSE and loving it. Buh bye Windows.
If technology is your true obsession in traditional Slashdot sense
Many people for whom technology is their true obsession have friends or relatives for whom technology is not their true obsession.
then you could really care less about people running Windows because it's not you.
I regularly use Xubuntu but must support friends and relatives using Windows. Some use Windows because all applications or peripherals in a particular category are incompatible with X11/Linux.
You're already running Linux and think the rest of the world should just give up, and you're paying for gigabit fiber because #fiber.
If fiber costs 6 figures where you live,[1][2][3] you're probably not going to get fiber even if you are technically inclined.
You'll not even be aware that the ISP's covering the majority of the population
Several of my friends are or were among the minority who use satellite or fixed cellular because they live in an area not covered by fiber or cable.
or you'll be thankful that in Windows you can set a connection as Metered to limit background downloads.
Does "Metered" stop these particular applications from being downloaded? Last time I used Windows 10, I seem to remember that the UI of Windows Update stated that some updates (to the effect) "necessary to keep Windows running" would still be downloaded over metered connections. In addition, the UI allows marking only Wi-Fi, not an Ethernet connection to a satellite or cellular modem, as metered. It's possible to mark Ethernet as metered but only with registry tweaks.
[1] "Want fiber Internet? That’ll be $383,500, ISP tells farm owner" by Jon Brodkin
[2] "Man builds house, then finds out cable Internet will cost $117,000" by Jon Brodkin
[3] "Victorian couple quoted up to $1.2m to connect to NBN Co's fibre service" by Jessica Longbottom and Ben Knight
MSDN subscription at the 500$ level gets you said LTSB license.
If there's software to connect to the Internet, your drive isn't wiped.
Welcome to Pixie, my friend.
Fuck Micro$oft!
Seriously, unless you are a gamer, why use Windows? A Linux install will get you access to Chrome or Firefox just like Windows will. Go buy a Mac if you want. Just stop using Microsoft products and they'll take notice.
You had a sublime experience installing software? Next thing you'll tell me is that you orgasmed when it hit 100% finished..
You seriously need to get out more. Seriously, get some help.
The CRTC has fined companies, for example A $250,000 Reminder that "CASL" is Not Just an Anti-Spam Law
, In that case, the action was taken under Canada’s Anti-Spam Law using section 8 of the Act, which prohibits the installation of software without consent, including malware.
There are at least two class actions waiting for the proclamation of a section which allows American-style suits in additional to prosecution. Guess who they target?
See also https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/interne...
davecb@spamcop.net
> This is not a good user experience, Microsoft.
Well, not for *us*. It's great for Microsoft.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Who gives a shit. Unless youâ(TM)re buying a new pc everyday who cares. Everything comes with bloatware. Have you seen blenders from the 80s with a button for every food type when a speed dial would do? Have you seen the stuff that comes with cars these days. Have you bought an iPhone, Apple, android, device. Or installed Ubuntu with their amazon store. Get over it
OK, so what makes you run to Microsoft's defense in this case but not defend others' behavior?
Some of these apps shared something, likely the microsoft installer service, with Windows Update so if you manually started running updates too soon it'd crash the install of the apps and hang windows updates and upon reboot you wouldn't be able to open the start menu. You'd click it and nothing would happen. They allegedly fixed this but all they really did was make it less prevalent.
Your mother is a C- and she stays D+ all the time!
Another baseless age restriction that goes against nature.
Yeah I agree. ...
And I'm European.
We've got a lot of work to do
You Americans are free to help us out. Well the white part that is. Come any time.
Last time I played with it, it doesn't disable completely but basically acts like a copy that Microsoft has decided has been pirated. Since you don't actually have a license at that point I guess to Microsoft it's basically one and the same.
Also, even if you do get a license, you couldn't just reactivate your old trial install - you have to a fresh reinstall. Don't know if that's the same either.
But... He's black!
This is just one of the reasons why I still exclusively use Slackware 95.
Found the cheap-ass criminal.
Every time there's some post about the crap of Windows 10 I will definitely read the article and try to find the crap described. however 9 out of 10 times I'll fail. And more importantly, I'll then see recommendations of Windows 10 enterprise in the next five minutes. That's when I realized I am running a copy of pirated Enterprise.
So the solution is clear.
and because of these types of nonsense i don't want anything to do with windows. it's just one more item to add to an already long list of things that windows does.
you don't need windows, or at least 95% (if not more) of _home_ users are perfectly fine on another (linux based) OS.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Maybe YOU should learn what it means. You aren't "convicted" of having a monopoly.
Thank you Captian Pedantic. You saved the day again!
Here's a little clue for you. For a company to be convicted of abusing a monopoly (which Microsoft was) it has to first be established in a court of law that they actually ARE a monopoly. You are correct that it is not illegal to be a monopoly and that convict is technically the wrong word. The purpose of my statementi s that Microsoft's monopoly status was established beyond any doubt in a court room for anyone who foolishly doubted it prior to that. The point is that there isn't much in the way of other options for PC operating systems because Microsoft has a de-facto monopoly on PC operating systems. Monopoly status = minimal alternative options. Got it?
And from Kenya, and he got his fake birth certificate from Ben Ghazi, and he i still trying to take their guns, and he took forever to respond to Katrina, and he caused the war in Iraq by doing nothing about 9/11.
Linux: No forced updates, ever. No forced reboots, ever. No forced removals, ever. You could hardly be more wrong.
Found the MS bootlicker.
Too many people excused the anti-customer spyware/malware behavior of Microsoft and Windows 10 because "it is free". But, it is NOT FREE NOW. There is absolutely no excuse for a paid product to behave this way. I guess Microsoft will keep on until another Federal investigation occurs. Since they are charging for Windows 10 licenses now, I asked Microsoft if that version would be devoid of the spyware. They never responded, so that must mean, "no".
We have been using Debian Linux at home for many years now and have not missed Windows. I run Windows 7 in a VM so I can run Quickbooks. That's all I need it for. I am getting more and more friends and family on Linux all the time, and it is working for them too. My uncle is an old Microsoft guy (former contractor) and now runs Linux Mint at home and at work and loves it. I got my teenage niece on Linux and she *never* calls me with problems. She called me once about how to hook up her printer. I told her to plug it in-she said "Oh, it says 'configuring printer'. Oh, hey! It's printing!" - and this was a random Canon inkjet printer. Just worked. I have my sister-in-law on Linux Mint now too.. She paid $45 for a perpetual license of Moneydance software and switched from abusive Quicken and she is off and running, downloading from her bank, etc. No issues. She's a professor in a community college in L.A. and runs Mint on her personal laptop. I got my cousin's wife on Linux Mint as well. She's been running it for a year now and I haven't had a *single* phone call for support. My mom's computer is next! I love instlalling Linux for people because *they don't call me for support ever*. :)
The Windows 8/10 network GUI shows "Metered" only for Wi-Fi, not for wired Ethernet. Instead, the user has to edit the registry to change the default media cost of all Ethernet connections. If a less-technical user's desktop PC has an Ethernet connection to the satellite or fixed-cellular modem, the user is unlikely to know that it's even possible to mark Ethernet as metered.
What if I told you that software can be run from computers that don't even have drives hooked up?
ROM is a thing.
Have to run it each time after update but much easier to remove than manually doing each one. http://github.com/arcadesdude/...
--arcades
"We are not anti-union, but we are not neutral either" says the narrator in the video. So they're pro-union? Logically that's the only position remaining. They seem to be really bad at helping people unionize.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Microsoft does not give s#!t about your user experience.