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using it didn't feel like torture.

Such precise language. You wouldn't be a member of a cult of some sort, would you?

Did you try the browser? The screen was small, the pages not tailored to mobile (unless you were using WAP). The browser was just showing a tiny bit of a very poorly rendered page at a time, you had to scroll sideways as well as up and down to read. Remember, the screen was small and had a resolution one quarter of VGA. No proper keyboard for input.

That said, the camera was good for the time and it had GPS. Not very common back then, and a major reason why I upgraded from my Sony Ericsson W810i. But while it was a little bit step up, the iPhone was a giant leap when I tried it. Phones back then weren't pretty comparable to the iPhone, like Android flagship phones and iPhones are today. They were a giant leap.

batteries expire and many 'common' (ie iPhone) phones batteries and also many uncommon (eg Nokia Windows Phones) aren't easily replaced - having said that, Steve managed to do it, so I guess I could :

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/14377_Sealed_vs_user-replaceable_bat.php
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CD4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstevesrantsnraves.blogspot.com%2F&ei=J4vXUtnEAave7AaZsoDQBQ&usg=AFQjCNGCaxTH0h7jTf_VYeudTXpOmvPEIA&sig2=JVa_3FpkZfUqnzKj-aPYMg&bvm=bv.59568121,d.ZGU&cad=rja

I recall him saying he is 'coming around' to the mindset of sealed batteries in a recent Phones Show too :

http://www.youtube.com/user/stevelitchfield

It's been considered a fairly useful capability since it was on Symbian...how long ago was it on that platform?? Too long ago to remember. This is nothing new apart from it's Google and Android, and perhaps the pervasiveness of the platform.

Ah, I see it was 2005 and Google discontinued it for Symbian :

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/flow/item/18412_Quickoffice_officially_discont.php

I find this sentence in Wikipedia interesting/disappointing :

"The programs are compatible with Microsoft Office file format, but not the OpenDocument standard."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quickoffice

I have no mod points today else I would've liked to mod your post up. I have the Nokia 808 Pureview incidentally and whenever anyone sees that it has a 41Mpx camera, they literally gasp and then laugh a bit in disbelief. I doff my hat at Nokia - it made me feel too, just for a moment, that this is the stuff of dreams. Symbian is great so far for me and I found that my simple greed for just the 41Mpx actually made me end up with the best phone on the market.

I've not seen how well/differently this camera tech would work out on the Windows OS, but I am waiting till I get a chance to get my hands on the 1020.
Out of curiosity, I check /. and I see people saying, "41Mpx but runs on Windows OS? Shit phone."
Out of curiosity, I check some more forums and I see people saying "41Mpx but doesn't run insert_whatever_inane_mobile_game_you_play_here? Shit phone."

I only shrug at the hate and prejudice.
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"Pragmatism. Is that all you have to offer?!" [Guildenstern]

You only need to look at one; the LG Prada to look at the difference between that and phones before it, and the iPhone and that. The amount the iPhone copied from LG is huge. Their differences are basically just taking LG's ideas even further by reducing the number of buttons and amount of decoration even more than LG did. If you add in the comparison between the Nokia N95 unboxing experience and the original iPhone unboxing experience and you will be able to see that Apple has nothing to stand on.

If you include 'feature phones' then Nokia still sold more than World+dog. 76 million I think was the number.

So, Samsung is out of the world+dog? Notice that they sold 105 million phones total, compared to 85 million for Nokia.

Navigation was built in and came free with the phone. Then a firmware update removed the navigation feature unless you paid for it.

Not least because the software and maps are basically completely free, for as many devices as you care to load it up on. The idea is that detailed street maps of virtually the entire world are made available for free, along with route calculation and display of your GPS position

Failure of n95? What the hell are you smoking?

You work for or previously worked for Nokia; right? The biggest failure of the N95 was that almost nobody from Nokia ever realised that it was a failure. Most outside people could see that. The N95 was not some minor side phone. The N95 was the flagship. It showed everything that Nokia was capable of at the moment that Apple was trying to show they had become irrelevant. It aimed to represent how Nokia was cool whilst everyone. In doing that the N95 showed everything that was wrong with Nokia's phones; for example:

• Required special software to synchronize / load files on & off and do connectivity (PC suite).
• Was not a fully independent first class citizen; e.g. you needed to have a computer to download maps
• Had a design which, whilst good at launch, looked archaic immediately anyone saw an iPhone.
• Was unable to run older Symbian applications causing effective market fragmentation
• was the peak of market segmentation - funny how people used to think this was a good thing :-)
• Did not have a touch screen interface

In the end the biggest failing was that the owner of an N95 would do endless feature comparisons showing that his device was better, but in the end the Apple people would swype accross their screen and just know they were better off. There just wasn't a single, obvious, visible cool thing about the N95 that was able to raise it above the iPhone. At the time the N95 was launched, Nokia was already two years into touch screen internet oriented devices such as the Nokia 770. The N95, or whatever Nokia's flagship phone at the time was to be called, should have been the Nokia's melding of the 770 with a phone and would have been ready to take on the iPhone.

The N95 was not a failure; it was a disaster. By allowing Apple to change the debate from hardware and features, where Nokia was strong, to software and user interface, where Apple was strong, It set up Nokia for every change and failure that was to come.

Actually, Android recently surpassed iOS as the primary(most popular) cell phone platform(I had no idea Symbian was on top prior to this)..

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/14693_Q1_2012_Android_OS_installed_b.php

So technically, it's the Android phone which is really popular. I suppose it doesn't hurt that there are a bazillion different staged versions of Android out there on all sorts of devices, versus ~5 versions of iOS on a very limited range of products.

Also, as MacOS is still ~27% behind Windows as the most popular OS, and only 7% above Linux OS popularity, they really aren't as ubiquitous as people make them seem. There is a lot of hype, but significantly less actual progress for the OS/equipment beyond standard-use consumers.

• a rectangular box - match
• with minimal metalic silver lettering - match
• and a large front view picture of the product prominently on the top surface of the box - no match, but compare Nokia E90 communicator launched in February
• a two piece box wherein the bottom piece is nested completely within the top piece - match
• use of a tray which cradles the products to make them completely visible on opening the box - match

The match between Apple and Nokia is much better than the match between Samsung and Apple. Who is ripping off who? Basically this kind of "copying" is nothing more than a type of fashion and Apple is outrageous to try to get competitor's products banned for things that they do themselves many times over.

This tired old rounded corners whine again?

It's about much, much more than that: http://peanutbuttereggdirt.com/e/custom/Apple-vs-Samsung-1-Hardware-Design.html

It's an interesting link; I've seen similar before but not thought about it much. When you look at it it really looks like Samsung is copying Apple. Very interesting is the change in the unboxing experience. It looks completely convincing.

Then you remember your first Nokia N95; a product released before the iPhone was available. Look at the Nokia unboxing experience which happens to be captured on the internet. Suddenly the audacity of Apple in claiming this as their own takes your breath.

Nothing under the sun is original; this is outrageous.

Moron, the E55 is Symbian S60: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S60_(software_platform)
It is outdated recycled crap for cheap phones.

I'm talking about the Symbian^3 platform: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/14093_Reasons_NOT_to_want_Symbian_Be.php
Kinda different?

Care to share some examples?

I dunno, any touchscreen UIQ device?

ok,

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/12533_Q4_2010_overall_phone_sales_wo.php

Nokia is still 10x iOS and you are trying to tell me it's below Android with those numbers. Here's a clue, not every phone not from Nokia is running Android.

The parent was talking about reasonable choices of non-Nokia companies...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOAP
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/12268_11_Symbian_phones_announced_by.php (also those are S^2, not MOAP, S60 lineage after all)

Light from the case leaks into pictures taken by the back and front camera on the White iPhone 4 causing distorted pictures.

Um, more like overexposed to hell. The camera basically can't regulate exposure if that's the case.

I don't think anyone picking up iPhone 4 instead of devices like Nokia N8 does really care about exposure issues.

By N8, I don't really say/buy "omg 12mpixels", I speak about these
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/11458_Nokia_N8_image_and_video_sampl.php

For all the bullshit in this article, he never even talks about Nokia's Q3 financial performance. They've sold 26.5 million smartphones, with an operating profit of €529 million, and net sales of €10.3 billion. Today in India, you can buy a Symbian based Nokia C5 for about INR 7000 unsubsidized (about $160). Just a couple of years ago that was unthinkable for a Symbian phone, they typically cost double or more. Nokia's pushing smartphones lower into the mass market with Symbian - they're able to standardize the hardware (600 MHz ARM CPUs as of now) and because of Symbian's scalability it can power these low end handsets. Meego will wind up for the successors to the N900 and probably be a netbook/smartphone hybrid OS, with appropriately beefy hardware and targeted at the high end market. And both Meego and Symbian will be bound by Qt for application development, so that there's no fragmentation going forward for developers. Qt is a proven toolkit, in use by Skype, Google Maps and VLC, and can be used to make desktop apps for Windows/Linux/Mac as well. And naturally everything here is true honest open source, not locked down or restricted like the 2 competing phone OSes(Android the OS being restricted by its device manufacturers even if it itself is open source). I see this as quite good - an incentive for developers to write apps that will reach the entire world, not just the US (there's 10 million downloads a day on Ovi Store as of now, it seems), while using standard development tools that can be used outside of mobile phones as well.

So the Symbian UI is 'dated' and 'old'. Well, guess what,pick up a Palm PDA from 1995, any Symbian handset and the American darlings, iOS/Android - and look at the way the UI is presented. What pray is so sexy or innovative about a gazillion icons presented in a scrolling view, as on the iPhone? Android does the same. So did Palm and so does Symbian/Nokia. Or is it the pretty transitions when you tilt the screen? Or the beveled edge buttons? GUIs have been about rows of icons to click on for ages. On a non touch mobile device, you use buttons to scroll/select while on a touchscreen you tap and slide your finger to scroll the display.
How many different ways is one to implement menus, checkboxes and radio buttons? Those are not going away any time soon. In 2006, Nokia introduced an optional new home screen that showed shortcuts to apps and alerts for new email/calendar appointments/nearby wifi networks. This is now far more customizable as in the upcoming Symbian^3, where you can have upto 3 homescreens with customizable widgets. Android also has something similar, but iOS as far as I've seen has no such native capability. That's not innovative?
Symbian has been designed from the ground up as an OS optimized for low CPU/memory usage, so it scales well from low to high end devices. It also has true preemptive multitasking since its 2002 debut- for example if there's too many apps open and there's an incoming call, the call takes priority over everything else and the OS will close a couple of background apps to free memory. Compare that with the hottest new Samsung Galaxy S which sometimes fails at receiving a basic phone call.. You can't control when the phone syncs data, or using what type of connection- you need an APNDroid hack to stop it syncing permanently in the background!! People rave about Snapdragon and gigahertz class CPUs for the newer Android devices, but the OS doesn't scale to lower specs at all. It practically requires a high powered CPU to power all that eyecandy.
Let's not even get started on the iPhone 4 antenna fiasco. Symbian has matured over 8 years and got the basics right - power management, multitasking, making calls,managing data connections over GPRS/3G/wifi/Bluetooth etc. It has also supported themes since its inception -there's hundreds of custom themes with different icons and colors available since then on various sites, so it's not like you're stuck with the look and feel that it ships with out of the box either. But well, superficial looks are all that matter in the end, apparently.

Symbian bloated, based on what? It has evolved over 10 years scaling up from devices with very low processing power and memory to what's available today. Android on the other hand doesn't scale backwards as much - it's one thing to crow about Snapdragon based CPUs until you realize that you need that kind of hardware to get a responsible UI on an Android. Take a look at this review of 2 low end phones - Symbian vs. Android. Android simply requires high spec'ed hardware to run. By contrast I've seen my nokia 6630 circa 2005 have the same decently fast UI and memory management as anything current.

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/11613_First_Symbian2_phones_ship_in_.php

Among first links on google. Really, this is slashdot, you can at least try google search before posting a question with obvious answer.

You know the real interesting thing which is fortunate for some companies is: People ignoring numbers like 24 million, in first 6 months of 2010. That is Symbian, supposed to be "fragmented" while single sisx file installs to almost anything.

You know what could drive all of them to real panic? If Nokia gets the neat idea of shipping a fully supported (and of course, working) Qt SDK for Android.

While on it, a device very similar to Android sold 19 million too... Blackberry... If you add them, it makes 43 million devices. That is the market a developer misses when he/she listens to these idiot blogs.

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/11548_More_stats_in_Symbian_sales_wa.php

Strictly speaking AMOLED...is TFT; "TFT LCD" in the latter case would be more precise. ;)

People forget that such choice is (or was...(*)) mostly about answering the question "do I want a screan looking great inside but weak in sunlight (OLED) or do I want a high chance of a screen which is merely good inside and...good in sunlight? (if that's transfelctive LCD)".

(*) Admittedly, in recent times various types of touchscreens, often put on top, and neglecting transflective LCDs make it even more murky

Strictly speaking AMOLED...is TFT; "TFT LCD" in the latter case would be more precise. ;)

People forget that such choice is (or was...(*)) mostly about answering the question "do I want a screan looking great inside but weak in sunlight (OLED) or do I want a high chance of a screen which is merely good inside and...good in sunlight? (if that's transfelctive LCD)".

(*) Admittedly, in recent times various types of touchscreens, often put on top, and neglecting transflective LCDs make it even more murky

http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/10/why-the-ovi-store-is-still-total-bollocks.html

http://dailymobile.se/2009/05/26/ovi-store-a-complete-disaster/

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90439

Nokia just isn't innovating anymore. What's Meego got in terms of user experience that iPhone OS doesn't? "Freedom" is a joke. Freedom is why my Windows mobile devices sucked balls("If you see a task manager, they did it wrong"). Losing freedom in a mobile handset isn't like being put into martial law. It's just a damned phone.

Nokia was late to the game with multitouch and centralized app sales. They may be selling more units than Apple, but, for how long?

Yes, and here's proof.

Nokia which is generally ignored by American public/tech community is testing such "inventions" for years in a real beta form. This far, and let me remind you, Nokia doesn't really make anyone paranoid as Google, nothing they tried has taken off although they have very clever touches for privacy and human emotions.

For example, their IM app (beta, real beta!) has ability to show generic names for your position only to your friends. Even that thing (like @cafe) bothered people. http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/7637_Nokia_Chat-IM_with_location_fe.php

I have installed Google Maps V4 for Symbian S60V3 having "buzz", all the feedback I checked was people who got seriously alerted about their privacy after they posted "buzz" for testing. People having facebook accounts, tweets everything they do got alerted. Not really tin foil heads like Google CEO suggested.

i'm a bit bipolar about integrated webcams. On one hand they are very nice to have, on the other, they seem like a very big security risk as they cant be physically unplugged when not in use...

That's easy to fix. Just make it like the N95 camera.

do you really expect any cellphone to have a very good camera? N86 even has a shitty camera. This was the first google result for N86 camera.

N86 is not a good camera, it just adds some megapixels. More megapixels doesn't mean a better camera, it just means a bigger picture. Most android phones are 3-7 megapixels.

Better software, better telephoto capability, these things will add some better quality. Meanwhile, the flash will still be limited, and the fact that you can't have a telescopic zoom like a normal camera (barring a couple phones), means that basically, your phone's pictures are not likely to compare to even an inexpensive camera's photos.

You were talking like marketing.

And why are you so fixed on OLED? In itself it blows for legibility in sunlight (compare for yourself http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/Sun_sun_sun_And_I_cant_see_a_thing_on_my_phone.php ), which is a large part of equation if we're discussing something really portable. You need transflective/etc.; generally something that works not by emitting light (which gets drown by any sufficienty strong external source), but by reflecting it.

The Symbian software marketplace dwarfs the Maemo marketplace, which to date seems to be mostly open source apps (in line with the audience of the N770/800/810, which was mostly Linux geeks). And new versions of the firmware are still being released - with more major releases due in Sep/Oct.

Is it really fair to say it has no future?

The problem with Nokia is that they suck week old witches piss up a straw when it comes to software[1] but they don't realise it. S60 on the phone I have (E71) isn't brilliant (poor interface, random lockups) but for real craptitude try any of the accessory programs such as Nokia PC suite. The word "flaky" was made for it. Then there's Maps Loader which gave me lots of fun recently. Out of Beta my ass.

[1] At least on the visible features - apps, GUI. Low level stuff like firmware and drivers I'm not so sure. Things do tend to work, more or less, if you can find where to configure them.

All Nokia S60/Symbian phones come with s/w to read MS Office format files. The E series also come with s/w to edit them. It's called QuickOffice. Here, read up on it :

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/10289_Quickoffice_responds_to_Nokia_.php

"One of the interesting side stories is that Nokia's Symbian phones already have an outstanding Office compatible software suite, in the form of Quickoffice, which ships with every current Nokia Symbian phone. Quickoffice have released their own statement today noting that its Symbian business represents only a portion of its overall business and that it will ship on 200 million Nokia Symbian phones before Microsoft's product is even released. See below for comment and their statement in full."

My Fuze is a media player, my phone is everything else. I can download apps for it from many Symbian freeware repositories and all I lose is touchscreen and motion sensing.

It was for the convenience of one device, and because it would allow me to drop a mobile tariff for a VoIP application, which I was going to get an iPod Touch, but I disagree with paying for security updates on a fundamental level.

Look into the nokia 5800, or the n97 if you can wait a month. The 5800 won the best multimedia smartphone award in the UK magazine Smartphone & PDA Essentials http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/9510_Nokia_5800_wins_as_Best_multim.php Slickdeals just showed a deal for 220$ to get a NAM version, unlocked, too, just a few days ago. Symbian is epic.

Yeah, and it is a steaming pile of sh*t. Not enabling multitasking is just another stupid "Apple knows best" ploy. Don't buy the company line. Read this. Look, everyone, Multitasking does work after all! And has been doing so for a decade and a half!

See here for evidence of binary compatibility across S60 3rd edition releases. Specifically, post number 9 confirms what I say.

Heck, on AllAboutSymbian they claim you can even install S60 3rd edition binaries on devices running S60 5th edition (only the Nokia 5800 at the moment, IINM) - here's one such quote, which is in a discussion about freeware for the Nokia 5800 :

"
Use this install file, the version for S60 3rd Edition FP1 phones, until such time as Nokia get round to doing a formal S60 5th Edition release.
"

See here for evidence of binary compatibility across S60 3rd edition releases. Specifically, post number 9 confirms what I say.

Heck, on AllAboutSymbian they claim you can even install S60 3rd edition binaries on devices running S60 5th edition (only the Nokia 5800 at the moment, IINM) - here's one such quote, which is in a discussion about freeware for the Nokia 5800 :

"
Use this install file, the version for S60 3rd Edition FP1 phones, until such time as Nokia get round to doing a formal S60 5th Edition release.
"

You can use Advanced Call Manager to do this and more. I've been using it on my E71 ever since I started getting the damn car warranty calls, and haven't had to deal with the damn calls for the past few months.

...or any Nokia S60 3rd edition phone? Ref : http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/7998_Microsoft_Exchange_Now_Support.php

Nokia started a weird campaign promoting its "Download!" making even die-hard Symbian blogs mad. Why? Because it is not really timely co-ordinated campaign and we (Nokia users) still see 10-15 never updated, never changed stuff in "Download!" menu in our phones.

Check news about it: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/7743_Secret_really_is_a_secret.php

Nokia sits there, look for some great open source/free applications shipped for Symbian, doesn't freely sign them or cover their signing costs, donate to authors, help them, at least put the s60.com apps to the menu.

All they do is some good graphics wallpaper and application. Yea, race with Apple this way... They don't even put "Opera" and "Fring" to "Internet" category, 2 apps which will never ship for Apple iPhone (with this SDK/EULA) for God's sake.

> 4. There are questions over how open is this environment? If a $1500 dollar license is required to get the source, is this open? Doesn't quite sound like it.

I think you'll find that this is only while they go through the opening procedure/etc.

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/7528_Symbian_Foundation_Says_Open_S.php

> Who is there first is interesting, but who is at least moderately successful first is what is important - and Palm was both that company, and the first company to be wildly successful in that space.

i'd still say that psion were moderately successful. maybe not in the states but every where else they did ok.

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/7100_Nokia_in_Quarter_1_2008.php

14.6 million smartphone sales in the first quarter of this year for symbian the successor to epoc isn't too shabby. its only the strange us phone market that seems immune to their charm.

> Too bad about that whole lead-squandering thing.

as a small british company they never had the pockets to fight microsoft who began targetting them around the time of the psion 5 by hiring key staff and buying out software they relied on. ultimately they created symbian to give their technology a push and since nokia took it over it has done quite well.

i like palm os. had a iiix, iiic, m125 and palm e. also had a visor neo which i thought was the best of them all. the treo is nice but is really showing it's age. i was one of the very few people i think who last year was looking forward to the foleo. if it had of been released i would have bought it over the eee pc. 10 hour battery life would have been the decider even if it were twice the price.

one thing the palm has and no other device has even been close to emulating is its syncing ability. the palm sync just worked. the nokia syncs fine with macos but is a bit of a resource hog on windows. the pocketpc platform is a disaster at syncing. every week at work i have to coax some device into talking with its desktop again.

i think one thing that is interesting is that both of these companies nokia (770 and 810) and palm (foleo was to run linux) are looking at linux for the future. just hope they keep the good parts of their current os/ui if/when they do make that move.

I can't seem to find this famous list of things an unsigned app can't do.

1.5 Why can I not get a certificate to sign Freeware, there is no other way to install Freeware? Contact your freeware developer and request him/her to re-release the application such that Developer Certificates are not required. a) Approx 60% of APIs do not require any Capabilities and applications using only those APIs do not need to use Symbian Signed services. b) The Capabilities; LocalServices, Location*, NetworkServices,ReadUserData ,UserEnvironment, WriteUserData: are user-grantable on the device. Applications using these Capabilities are not required to be Symbian Signed; an end-user can grant the permissions on their device. This allows people to do application development with a large amount of functionality for interesting apps. At least 25% of commercial apps are released without needing to use any Symbian Signed services. c) The Capabilities; PowerMgmt, Location*, ProtServ, ReadDeviceData, SurroundingsDD, SwEvent, TrustedUI, WriteDeviceData: are grantable by Open Signed Online, as well as all the user grantable permissions described in (2) .There is a requirement (as requested by the developer community) that you must own the applications UID, or you may use a test UID (i.e. in the range 0xE0000000 to 0xEFFFFFFF). This protects the integrity of UID allocation process and prevents developers signing applications with UIDs which have been reserved by other developers. Note: Location* depends on device type

Symbian Signed allows access to all but the seven most resticted capabilities on the phone (these capabilities can only be accessed with an extra level of manufacturer approval). Self-signing allows application access to a more limited set of capabilities than Symbian Signed. General capabilities that are not considered a major security risk can be access via self signed applications. Where there is a small security risk (such as the use of Bluetooth or use of the Network to retrieve data) self signed application must gain user permission to access these capabilities (in the form of a dialog that asks user the grant these capabilities to an application).

Sounds like it's not the 'Los Angeles' fantasy land...it isn't the only place in the world.

I've yet to see a McDonald's with free wifi, but I read on AllAboutSymbian that they have it in the UK. I wouldn't be surprised if it were in other countries too.

The Qt toolkit allows rapid development of nice mobile and desktop application. A Nokia slide on the role of Qt in the company seems to suggest they want to use Qt to write applications that work and look the same on their mobile phones and on the desktop the user might have (be it Windows, Mac or Linux).

source

From http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/Semi-Convergence_Can_you_have_your_cake_and_eat_it_with_the_Nokia_N800.php

The N800 can access the Internet through (in theory) any Bluetooth mobile phone, which makes life a lot easier when you're trying to buy a new phone.

Except for a few compatibility issues with particular models, you can pretty much get whichever phone you want. Because the N800 can handle all the expensive and demanding Internet and multimedia functions, the only minimum requirement is that the phone can work as a Bluetooth modem. It doesn't even have to be a Nokia, and the N800 can work with GSM, CDMA and 3G phones.