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Key times like being flown into a building and shattered into a zillion pieces before experiencing a building collapse, or high-angle impacts with the ground? Sure, they're meant to survive alot, but plenty of black boxes suffer damage and either fail entirely or have intermittent recordings for *ordinary* air crashes. The FAA requires two "black boxes" -- the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder. It isn't unusual for one to survive while the other does not. For example, at a recent cargo 747 crash in Halifax, Nova Scotia the flight data recorder survived, while the cockpit voice recorder did not have any retrievable data -- and that was a much lower-speed crash occurring at takeoff. Another example is Swissair flight 111, which crashed off the coast of Nova Scotia -- though both recorders survived, they didn't record anything in the last 6 minutes before the crash. Some types of recorders have a continuous loop and record only 30 minutes -- important data leading up to the crash can be overwritten subsequently.

While getting data off recorders depends upon the exact circumstances of the crash and the type of recorder, they clearly aren't indestructable or without data loss incidents. Furthermore, when damaged, intermittent information recording is not unusual, again depending upon the design and crash circumstances.

You need to use a thicker brand of tin foil. Alternatively, you could read a little more widely than the nonsense that is written at conspiracy sites, unless you are suggesting transportation safety institutions around the world have been conspiring for years about the survivability of flight recorders.

...does not qualify as censorship by the government of Canada.

Especially since Volpe is not a member of the governing party. The Liberals are currently in opposition. Volpe is a candidate for the leadership of the Liberal party--or perhaps was, after the donations-from-kids scandal.

However, this sort of qualifies as abuse of power to censor legitimate political satire--but not quite, because the chicken-shit Tory smear campaign artist who put the site up didn't have the guts to say who he was. There is no reason any ordinary citizen would feel the need to hide his identity when publishing legitimate satire.

A sampling of real headlines courtesy of Google News:

Gr-ape lengths made in human DNA study
Men mated with chimps for 1m years (now that's endurance!)
A chimp off the ol' block
Chimps & Early Man couldn't stop lovin'
Grandma Manimal

And they keep going and going...

Ah, gotta love google :) 176 MRI machines here as of Jan 2005 (Siemens is here installing a new 3T at our facility so add at least 1 to that)

One example of manufacturing harmless Canadian pop stars was many years ago. I was watching TV expecting [whatever show, probably a cartoon] on a Saturday morning. It was pre-empted by a "live" performance by Edward Bear obviously directed towards younger kids (I was a younger kid in the early 70s).

I don't remember April Wine, BTO or Rush needing to pimp their stuff in such a manner. These days the manufacturing of talent is the main goal, it seems. Then again, my memories may be faulty.

Oh, the memories: Zon, Streetheart, Max Webster, Teaze, Chilliwack, Hellfield, Wireless...

Please don't forget that he had them and used them. It's what's unknown is whether he still had some prior to the invasion.
Since there is now evidence that he had detailed intel about the invasion - it lies easily within the realm of possiblity that he arranged to have his remaining stockpiles moved out of the country. There is now some indication that Russian troops were involved in moving weapons to Syria (though only conventional weapons are mentioned).

I don't know what the big deal is, the Missing Link has been up in Canada all this time...

Some of them make a lot more money than most Slashdot readers.

I've talked to panhandlers that take in over $60 an hour tax free every day.

The homeless you see sleeping on the street are typically the mentally ill. They have options available to them for shelter but due to their mental condition they end up leaving for one reason or another.

I bet within 5 years of the wireless system being implemented you'll hear someone in office suggest that we should tag the mentally ill homeless so they can be located and retrieved when they wander from shelters.

Ah, but no. Danish (umm... is that the plural form?) are no longer allowed in Iran. The correct term is "a smiley with a Rose of the Prophet Mohammed on his head", thank you very much. Just like this is a smiley with a quartet of Freedom Fries atop the dome: #:-)

A more interesting question for me is, why would someone make up such an obvious pack of lies and for what reason?

I am not sure, maybe you can ask the guys who wrote such glowing reviews of 'Doom'

Ironically, on the 'Microsoft, Apple sign five-year pact story,' there is a flash ad at the top that reads:

"Microsoft Office has evolved.
Have you?"

Frequence of Google usage = Fg
Average wealth of user = Wu

Which is the independent variable and which is the independent variable? In this case, does use of Google cause wealth for the user? Does my use of Google make me more "internet savvy" and richer (bring it on!), or do I use Google because I'm smart and socially secure.... no, wait. That can't be the case. Well, anyway, we already know Google usage creates wealth for Sergey Brin and Larry Page, the founders of Google. Even after sales of 5.3 million shares of Google stock, they retain 33 million more, currently worth over $13 billion (story). Which begs the question: are these two fish (and the other Google execs) big enough to overwhelm the "average wealth" pool of all internet users? If Bill Gates uses Google (and I'll bet he does), does that leave no room in the aquarium for the rest of us? Do we become noise in the equation?

P.S. Of course I used Google to research this post...

There's already a small, portable, cheap HIV test: http://www.canoe.ca/Health0003/24_aids.html

I repeat simple common sense - drink water most of the time. It seems nothing else is safe these days.

I don't know where you get the idea that water is "safe". Hell, here in Ontario, Canada, we had the Walkerton debacle in 2000 wherein people died from E.coli that was circulated through "clean" tap water. And this is in an industrialized nation where we're not supposed to have problems with this kind of crap anymore. God forbid you visit/live in Mexico or Africa or some such where the water quality is worse.

- water can carry harmful bacteria
- artificially created/modified products (such as soda and juice from concentrate) contain chemicals that may kill you
- butter is too high in fat, but margarine contains too many artificial products and can even lead to anal leakage
- sugar is bad for you, but so are artificial sweeteners
- grains are treated with pesticides and other chemicals, and, once processed, are often so robbed of nutrients as to be totally unhealthy
- vegetables are treated with pesticides and other chemicals, and are coated with wax to look pretty on the shelf
- beef can be unsafe due to mad cow disease, and it's also much too fatty
- poultry can be unsafe due to salmonella, and force-fed poultry is often, once again, much too high in fat
- pork is just too high in fat to be healthy, and it also can carry its own share of harmful bacteria

Shall I go on?

I could find links that lead to studies that support all of the previous claims, but anyone who really cares enough can just Google it. What I'm getting at is that nothing is safe. That's why we have an immune system, but it's also why we get sick and die. That's why I've given up on eating "healthy", because nobody can agree on what "healthy" is!

I repeat simple common sense - drink water most of the time. It seems nothing else is safe these days.

I don't know where you get the idea that water is "safe". Hell, here in Ontario, Canada, we had the Walkerton debacle in 2000 wherein people died from E.coli that was circulated through "clean" tap water. And this is in an industrialized nation where we're not supposed to have problems with this kind of crap anymore. God forbid you visit/live in Mexico or Africa or some such where the water quality is worse.

- water can carry harmful bacteria
- artificially created/modified products (such as soda and juice from concentrate) contain chemicals that may kill you
- butter is too high in fat, but margarine contains too many artificial products and can even lead to anal leakage
- sugar is bad for you, but so are artificial sweeteners
- grains are treated with pesticides and other chemicals, and, once processed, are often so robbed of nutrients as to be totally unhealthy
- vegetables are treated with pesticides and other chemicals, and are coated with wax to look pretty on the shelf
- beef can be unsafe due to mad cow disease, and it's also much too fatty
- poultry can be unsafe due to salmonella, and force-fed poultry is often, once again, much too high in fat
- pork is just too high in fat to be healthy, and it also can carry its own share of harmful bacteria

Shall I go on?

I could find links that lead to studies that support all of the previous claims, but anyone who really cares enough can just Google it. What I'm getting at is that nothing is safe. That's why we have an immune system, but it's also why we get sick and die. That's why I've given up on eating "healthy", because nobody can agree on what "healthy" is!

Remember when the cargo ship crashed into Mir, causing partial depressurization they even considered fixing? Michael Foale certainly remembers. Any mold still growing in the Spektr module would have been exposed to vacuum and maybe even some UV if the ruptures were large enough.

Anyway it's a strange view that, if it's in the genes, it's OK, but if it's caused by the environment, it's somehow less real. Would we convert left-handers to right-handers if we found out it's an enviromental factor that determined their chiral preference?

I'd worry; lefties will be a convenient target for genetic screening ... all in the name of better public health, of course.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd= Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8216870&dopt=Abstract

Quite the contrary, 36.7% of children of LHI were left-handed, while 7.3% children of RHI happen to be left-handed (P < 0.00025).

Being a lefty is an inherited trait.

http://www.canoe.ca/Health0007/06_hands.html

Study finds gays more likely to be left-handed than straights

...

But exposure to sex hormones and environmental factors such as pollutants and stress during pregnancy can alter the genetic blueprint, contributing to left-handedness.

"There's something that happens early in development that can shift development towards a left-side bias," says Lalumiere.

In turn, those blips may also be a factor in determining homosexuality.

"This study is one more piece of evidence that suggests sexual orientation is at least partly determined in-utero," says Blanchard.

So, whether you're a lefty or gay or both, you can say you were born that way.

Other risk factors of being left-handed include being more likely to suffer post-traumatic stress disorder http://www.acpmh.unimelb.edu.au/research/summary20 03.html

n a provocative preliminary study, Chemtob et al. hypothesized that deviations from normal hemispheric dominance may increase risk (Chemtob & Taylor, 2003). They examined hand preference in 118 right-handed male veterans. PTSD prevalence was lowest for respondents reporting a consistent hand preference and right handed parents (44%) and highest for those reporting both mixed laterality and a left handed parent (100%). Moderately high PTSD rates were observed in veterans reporting either a mixed lateral preference or left handed parent (70%). These findings suggest that an imbalance in hemispheric dominance for processing threatening and/or emotional information may increase vulnerability to PTSD following trauma.

- Chemtob, C. M., & Taylor, K. B. (2003). Mixed lateral preference and parental left-handedness possible markers of risk for PTSD. Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 191(5), 332-338.

Higher risk of schizophrenia if you're a leftie ...http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/archives/00 2346.html

When this was noted in the data, it was found that they had higher STA scores than those who had not been forced to switch. Also it was found that "males who were non-right handers, and who presumably had mixed-handedness, having significantly higher STA scores than full right-handers" (PsychiatryMatters.MD).

These results support the claim that left-handedness and being ambidextrous was a risk factor for schizophrenia symtoms.

Diabetes: http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read,1009,2592.html

Our results: people with diabetes are three times more likely to be left-handed than the general population.

Other connections:

Myth 1: Global temperatures are rising at a rapid, unprecedented rate.
Fact: Accurate satellite, balloon and mountain top observations made over the last three decades have not shown any significant change in the long term rate of increase in global temperatures.

Average ground station readings do show a mild warming over the last 100 years, but well within the natural variations recorded in the last millenium. The ground station network suffers from an uneven distribution across the globe; the stations are preferentially located in growing urban and industrial areas ("heat islands") which show substantially higher readings than adjacent rural areas ("land use effects").

Myth 3: Human produced carbon dioxide has increased over the last 100 years, adding to the Greenhouse effect, thus warming the earth.

Fact: Carbon dioxide levels have indeed changed for various reasons, human and otherwise, just as they have throughout geologic time. The CO2 increase was only 0.4% over the last 50 years, rather than the 5% per 100 years quoted by Kyoto. However, as measured in ice cores dated over many thousands of years, CO2 levels move up and down AFTER the temperature has done so, and thus are the RESULT OF, NOT THE CAUSE of warming. Geological field work in recent sediments confirms this. There is solid evidence that as temperatures rise naturally and cyclically, the earth's oceans expel more CO2 as a result.

Myth 4: CO2 is the most common greenhouse gas.

Fact: Water vapour or clouds, which makes up on average about 3 % of the atmosphere by volume, and - according to several researchers - about 60% by effect, is the major greenhouse gas. 97% of greenhouse gases are water vapour by volume. Moreover, because of its molecular weight and absorptive capacity, water vapour is 3000 times more effective than CO2 as a greenhouse gas. Those attributing climate change to CO2 rarely mention this important fact.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/News /2004/05/28/476115.html

and

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/3 1/131716.shtml

Asking for British, Canadian, and Mexican forces to lend a hand is a good idea as well.

Canada is ready to help, and the offer has been officially made. The Prime Minister was on the phone with Bush, and offered "whatever you need".
Now we're waiting to be asked to help out.
And we're trying to help minimise the side effects on the rest of us, as well.

First arresting Ernst Zundel for denying the Holocaust, then persecuting a forum poster for ethnic slander, and now this. O Canada! I guess history does repeat itself, and the most Marxist nation in the West will be the first to go Stalinesque. If nothing else, it will be a good excuse to finally invade.

No hearing, no trial, no independent psychiatric evaluation, no appeal, nada.

I wonder how much one has to criticize the government(s) before the Provincial Psychiatrist serves your bank with an order to turn over your money.

If it's a laptop, you don't have to sit on the edge of the couch, you can pick it up and put it in your lap!

That does work. Unfortunately my sperm are not enjoying being cooked by the heat.

This post can be found at http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=1984

No longer will Dick Cheney have to pay visits to Langley, Virginia and lean on CIA analysts to produce the kind of intelligence a Veep might need; not now that the President has his man, Republican loyalist Porter J. Goss, heading up the Agency, and a second term in hand. Of course, the CIA was already highly politicized in the first Bush term. Run by George Tenet (accurately dubbed "a political apparatchik" by Toronto Sun columnist Eric Margolis), throughout most of the last four years, it proved a servile agency despite possessing perfectly clear-eyed analysts who knew the truth about Iraq and wanted to pass it on.

But not, it seemed, servile enough. Unhappy with the intelligence pickings from the CIA, the Bush administration turned to its loveably, unreliable then-"friend," Iraqi exile Ahmed Chalabi, for the sort of intelligence that could actually be used to terrify a nation into war -- you know, all those weapons of mass destruction in Saddam's hands, all those ties between Saddam and al-Qaeda -- and then Douglas Feith, the number three man in the Pentagon, created the Office of Special Plans to "search for information on Iraq's hostile intentions or links to terrorists." It cherry-picked intelligence from Chalabi and others and passed it up the line to those eager to speak of mushroom clouds going off over American cities.

Such a complicated process, though. Now, former Republican congressman as well as ex-CIA agent and spy-recruiter Goss will bring no less loyal political aides from the House and elsewhere into the Agency's leadership and so simplify matters in a second Bush term. Already, before November 2, Goss's CIA was working hard to suppress crucial 9/11 information, as Los Angeles Times columnist Robert Scheer reported. The CIA will now be but another, ever expanding militarized arm of an administration that will already control Congress (hence no possibility of serious oversight over the Agency), significant parts of our courts and justice system, a media machine, a political machine, a religious machine, a majority of the state governments in our federalist system, and sizeable hunks of the government bureaucracy. The President, in other words, will have his own intelligence arm and secret army at his beck and interventionist call for the next four years, and no one around to take a peek. The ultimate check on the administration was the electorate and it just failed. (Oh, let's not forget that there will at least be angry CIA agents and others still stuck in this highly politicized system, feeling betrayed, and as things begin to go truly off the tracks, leaking like mad.)

Of course, this administration has long been intent on putting much of what it does not only beyond all oversight, but utterly out of sight. After September 11, they put extraordinary effort and legal thought into creating an offshore mini-gulag, beyond the courts, beyond prying eyes, a torture-system beholden only to the President of the United States in his role as commander-in-chief. The CIA was put in charge of the most secret aspects of this system and, as the part of the government best tooled in the arts of offshore interrogation, from Abu Ghraib to a

bit trollish phrasing, but here's a news article of the
real event
    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/08/02/1156 734-cp.html

yes, a jet crashed at Toronto (Pearson) airport today.

    -k

Are you kidding?

Is it still free speech when you have to go to a "free speech zone" to do it? That is absolutely restricting people's freedom of speech and freedom to peaceably assemble. "Provably". Admit it.

The only difference between the current US administration and Mubarak is that Mubarak hasn't yet figured out what's tasteful and what's not. Arresting Immortal Technique for making a cartoon of GW with a bullet in his head wouldn't look very good. You stop the demonstrators before they get to the demonstration. You don't arrest your political oponents, you just make sure the contested election is decided by a political body that swings your way. And no, I'm not trying to say that the Democrats are above this.

P.S. In order to trample free speech, it has to be the government. Your link is partisan PR.

The link to the original article seems to have changed. The new link is here

I do hope this wasn't a sick dig at the memory of Andrew Frow.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/07/11/1126 938-cp.html

Driving over the speed limit is against the road laws

Yes, and we pay taxes because NOT paying taxes is against tax laws. We call that revenue generation.

Now, interchange taxes with speeding and what do you get?

Revenue generation.

In my country a Premier even admitted it during a government speech, denouncing that they even have any other purpose (like safety) -- their absolute purpose is to make money. He very succinctly put it like this "It's a revenue generator, absolutely.". We even voted in a new government that promised to make photo radar [speed cameras] illegal (they did) [that was years ago, seems we need another wakeup call, as always].

First order of business, Anonymous idiot Coward, is for me to read the PNAC document for you. I'd staple it to your draft card, but you're going to have to wait a few more months for those to bet to the printer.

"Indeed, the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

Just one example demonstrating the usefulness of Saddam Hussein in justifying the invasion to provide a greater, permanent US military base in Iraq. The rest of the document, if you can read it without my babysitting, details that base. This particular bogeyman is not fictional, shamelessly publishes its plans while lying to America about WMD, Saddam/Osama collaboration, and any other "immediate justification" for their wars and other tyrannies. You fall right in line with them: posting insults anonymously, attacking the messenger rather than the facts, creating strawman lies like "my good guys, the Taliban" - when it's your guys, the Republicans, who created the Taliban Afghanistan, and allow them to revive after the photo op, while we're bogged down in Iraq. It's your boys in DC busy kissing Saudi ass while they jack up oil prices together.

Who voted for Bush because "they wanted a democratic and free Afghanistan"? Practically no Americans ever thought once about Afghanistan when voting in 2000, and we were already committed 3 years after our invasion when voting in 2004. At least as many people voting for Kerry in 2004 want a democratic and free Afghanistan as those who voted for Bush - and all we know for sure is that Afghanistan today, after 3 years of American occupation, is hardly democratic or free, even free from the Taliban - except in the bubble around the capital, where the American cameras are installed. You're insane to hand the Taliban to me, when it's your Afghanistan, the "free and democratic" one, where the stoning is going on. Even if you're not going to read the PNAC documents which define your world, or my posts that upset your denial so badly, try to read your own posts before sliming them at me, Anonymous self-parody Coward.

Not as current as I hoped to find, but as of April, 2003, AOL had 26.2 million subscribers. Reference

Note that this is down from 32 million in 2001, but I'm still guessing they have a fair chunk of warm bodies. Reference

Ahh, here we go. 22.7 million Sept. 2004. Wish I had that many clients :) Reference

>> What, you don't think criminals are represented in government?

Here in Canada they're in the government it seems...

>> What, you don't think criminals are represented in government?

Here in Canada they're in the government it seems...

May be offtopic
The United States is willing to review a British Columbia report that concludes the U.S. Patriot Act has the power to eyeball private information about Canadians,
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/10/29/6923 05-cp.html

Not true.

http://skepdic.com/shark.html
http://www.canoe.ca/Health0004/06_cancer.html

"It's true that some sharks get cancer. I said this in my book," said William Lane, author of the 1992 book Sharks Don't Get Cancer. "My publisher thought it would be bad to call it, Almost No Sharks Get Cancer."

"This is good science that shows us that sharks can get cancer," said biologist John Coffey of Johns Hopkins University. "I don't think there is any benefit to buying shark cartilage and eating it, any more than I think that eating a rabbit will make me run faster."

This is a claim made by people trying to peddle products to desperately sick people. It has no basis in fact, and the FTC took action in 2000 to prevent companies from making this claim.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/06/lanelabs.htm
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/nws/content/nws_1_1x _ftc_stops_claims_made_by_makers_of_shark_cartilag e_products.asp

You have no right to subvert the law in this case, and I sincerely hope you get charged for subverting a Justice's edict.

federal lawyers could charge Canadian bloggers and website owners with contempt of court or suggest AdScam Justice John Gomery issue warning letters.

You can also point them to my journal.
It's got links.
You know.
To in-for-ma-tion.
Sec-ret in-for-ma-tion.
Em-bar-rass-ing to the gov-ern-ment.
Just don't tell any-one else
... it's a sec-ret ... NOT!

Ask and you shall receive: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/04/05/9834 73-cp.html

The land of freedom fries??? The home of FOX??

Fox News Channel: popular in the US, banned in Canada

If it's not that big a deal, and everybody knows what's going on anyway, why is the Gomery commission getting so upset about it?

And trying to punish Canadian news outlets who merely publish a link to the American website? I'm sorry, but that's wrong, and should be wrong by anybody's definition. Do you support China's filtering of internet access for all its citizens?

If you don't like the way the US is run, why don't you move along with all the other liberals who promised to move to Canada if Bush got elected the first time around?

The liberal ideology is flawed in that it is touted as progressive and liberating, but only hurts and destroys a society in the end. 40,000,000 abortions since 1973. Here is the abortion deaths to war deaths comparison.(These are innocent deaths, folks.) But the libs want to ban cigarette smoking? C'mon. And all this rhetoric about celebrating diversity only applies if you are not a Christian or a Jew. It's OK to be gay? Not if you want to see a substantial increase in STDs among gay and bi-sexuals.

So the liberal ideology has killed more people that wars dating back to the Civil War? At least the people going into war knew what they were getting in to.

But in the last days evil will be called good and good will be called evil.

"While some companies permit Quebec entrants, many are scared away by unique rules that are mandated by the province's gaming agency.

Quebec is the lone Canadian jurisdiction that requires security deposits, charges fees and enforces strict rules about draws valued at more than $100. Some American states also enforce rules that prevent their residents from participating in contests.

In addition to requiring that all documents be written in French, Quebec's agency charges three per cent of the value of all national prizes, even if a Quebecer doesn't claim a prize, or 10 per cent of the value of a contest run exclusively in the province. The agency collected nearly $1.7 million in fees last year.

In the rest of Canada, large contests are governed only by the federal Competition Act, a broad framework for promotional contests.

"People often exclude Quebec just because they're afraid of these rules and don't really understand them," said Sharon Groom, a Toronto lawyer who represents many advertisers that run contests as a marketing tool.

"They're not actually that bad but a lot of our clients will say we don't want to be bothered with doing this, so they exclude Quebec."

I have a rock here that wards off Tigers. People say it doesn't work ... but I don't see any tigers!

With all due respect .. what a load of cr*p.

Ever heard of Bill 101? It's a Quebec signage law "restricting access to English schools and prohibiting the use of English on commercial signs predominate on all signage" It's been ruled by the Supreme court to be a direct violation of the Charter of Rights & Freedom but guess what? The law has stood for over 20 years, despite the Supreme Court of Canada declaring it to be in violation of the Charter (Source: http://www.law.ualberta.ca/ccskeywords/bill_101.ht ml)

But wait .. it gets worse in the sacred Canadian legislation department - the Canadian Health Act whose second tenant proudly claims "all medically necessary services provided by hospitals and doctors must be insured". Again, completely violated by private for-profit MRI clinics in Montreal. (Source: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/04/23/4339 05-cp.html)

If this comes off as Quebec bashing it wasn't intended as such. It was to point out that in Canada, the Charter can, is, and will be violated subject to the discretion of the ruling class.

What about a gold plated toilet?

Last summer, up close to where I live, they had one fatality in a solar car crash on the highway.

His publisher made him do it.

A power outage has taken down wikipedia! as a community we must carry the torch!

There are strong rumors that the PS3 will be unveiled in late March, to beat MS and Nintendo to the next-gen punch. If true, Sony is doing the exact thing MS is being accused of. Who knows when manufacturing and distribution would start, but it looks like MS is really just trying to keep up, rather than any sort of preemptive action.

Iran is slowly becoming more moderate.

Oh yeah, they're more moderate alright. Why it was months ago that the Iranian parliament chanted Death to America. Heck, months in Internet time is eons. Never mind that a majority (180/290) of the Iranian member of parliament are hard liners. No, Iran isn't a threat - no siree.