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Just wait till Sony releases another Holiday Demo Disk that erases all your PS2 memory cards. That should take care of all your worries of getting PS2 saves onto the PS3.

Sure, because code taken straight out of linux and dumped into win32 land works just peachy. (Once you spend thousands of hours hacking away at it.)

Maybe the developers grandparent mentions were uninformed about what Linux is, remember most people think that Red Hat is Linux. I do not believe I am reaching here, but perhaps the Microsoft developers he was referring to meant open source code, not Linux.

Microsoft uses open source packages commonly found on Linux distributions. For example zlib is one, when a zlib vulnerability is discovered you will always find Microsoft's name as one of the vendors contacted.

http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/Microsofts+borrowed+ code+may+pose+risk/2100-1001_3-860328.html

The zlib is licensed in a BSD-esque license. It's fine for Microsoft to use it legally. My question was strictly with regards to the GPL licensed software.

Microsoft using open source is not an isolated incident as shown below with a quick Google.

http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngapbr.html
Internet Explorer [Microsoft] (Mac PPC, Mac OS X) - version 5.0 and later; read-only; full alpha support (screenshots), though broken for tiled page- and table-background images smaller than 64x64 (switches to binary transparency for performance reasons [should be fixed in one of next two versions]; can work around bug by manually tiling image to be larger than 64 pixels in at least one dimension); full gamma support; full sRGB and ICC profile support; progressive display of interlaced images (replicating method); broken default handling on OS X for standalone PNGs (versions 5.1 and 5.2 save to disk rather than view due to QuickTime bogosity; see Matthew Rothenberg's Mac OS X Hint for simple fix); uses libpng and zlib; freeware. (Note that AOL 5.0 is apparently built on MSIE 4.5 or earlier, so it has no PNG support at all. No word on later versions.)

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,119666,0 0.asp
Microsoft also criticized Core Security Technologies of Boston for publishing a proof of concept for a hole in an MSN Messenger component called "libpng," which is used to display PNG (Portable Network Graphics) files

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi? id=159304
iDEFENSE has confirmed the existance of the vulnerability in version 5.1.2600.2180 of the Microsoft Telnet Client, the telnet client included in the Kerberos V5 Release 1.3.6 package and the client included in the SUNWtnetc package of Solaris 5.9.

FIOS:

http://news.com.com/2300-1034_3-5810578-3.html

30mbps for 199/month, 15mbps for 49/month.

http://news.com.com/2300-1034_3-5810578-2.html

I love such insightful and well researched comments, and the beautiful job of filtering the editors do. :P

FIOS:

http://news.com.com/2300-1034_3-5810578-3.html

30mbps for 199/month, 15mbps for 49/month.

http://news.com.com/2300-1034_3-5810578-2.html

I love such insightful and well researched comments, and the beautiful job of filtering the editors do. :P

At current prices (TowerStream charges $600 a month for a 1.5Mbps connection), I don't see how this becomes a challenge to DSL, WiFi, etc. It doesn't even challenge cellphones (EVDO for the laptop and a high level of "anytime" minutes on a separate phone are cheaper than TowerStream's WiMax and have a greater range). It just sounds like TowerStream is bundling it as an added value feature of its existing service.

TFA is chock-full of inaccurate marketing hyperbole, like claiming that 75Mbps is more than 20x faster than "the fastest wired broadband available commercially." Really? Comcast is at 4Mbps and heading up. I've got 6Mbps through Speakeasy. This chart shows multiple cable companies offering 8Mbps with 20 on the way (and that's not counting Verizon's FIOS).

Laughably, News.com just uses the hyperbole in their "news" story a couple of days after publishing that chart. I sent an e-mail to the "reporter" and asked him if he was using the "Parroting A Press Release Without Checking My Facts" mathematical theorem to come to the conclusion that 75 is more than 20 times faster than 8.

Anyhoo, unless there's something I'm missing, this is non-news. It's just an ISP that is bundling Vonage. BFHD.

CAFTA's first export: the DMCA

On Cnet, Declan reports that while the media was focused on sugar prices and sweatshops, an important part of the newly-passed Central American Free Trade Agreement went by unnoticed: member nations must adopt an anti-circumvention clause matching the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

You're right, but firefox is working on it, Microsoft announced that they won't even try to pass the Acid Test. Neither one may be able to meet the standards yet, but at least the Mozilla group is working on it. Which would you rather use, the group that tries, or the group that knowingly blows it off.

Apple says that safari has already passed in their test builds, and Opera is said to be "very close". Rather than the market telling the users what they want, perhaps by boycotting IE the users can tell the market what they want.

Even if you could get the incomplete source to compile without the important missing bits, it would soon become obsolete as it won't have any kind of support for new hardware.

This reminds me of a news broadcast in Sweden a year ago or so about - you guessed it - child pornography. They interviewed a guy at a children's rights organization and he particularly mentioned Freenet, he called it "an open door for pedophiles" and continued with some inane ramblings about how ISP's must monitor all traffic for greater good (tm). This also reminds me of http://news.com.com/Congress+threatens+P2P+network s+on+porn/2100-1028_3-5809223.html?tag=nefd.top When will these people realize guns don't kill people, you can actually use a road for speeding, a scissor is a pontetial murder weapon and (gasp) in real life, in cities, people kill, murder and rape. Lets ban outdoors - think of the children!

More specifically, it includes "a TCPA/Palladium implementation that uses a Infineon 1.1 chip which will prevent certain parts of the OS from working unless authorized."

Or, to quote Apple's VP of Marketing from a CNet article, "We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac." (Scroll to the end of the article text.)

Anybody in the audience to whom this comes as a Sudden Surprise, only now provoking them to be pissed off at Apple, apparently missed that article (or anything quoting it).

And when, pray tell, has Opera Software "whined"?

And that's just the company itself. Don't even get me started on how Opera's users whine (Hey, Opera had that feature first! They stole it from us!). Damn, I already got started.

> IBM is to a great extent a research company;

IBM makes $2 billion/year from patent licenses. With that amount of money and over 10000 patents in diverse areas, they make MS look like a grade-school bully.
From: http://www.forbes.com/asap/2002/0624/044.html

After IBM's presentation, our turn came. As the Big Blue crew looked on (without a flicker of emotion), my colleagues--all of whom had both engineering and law degrees--took to the whiteboard with markers, methodically illustrating, dissecting, and demolishing IBM's claims. We used phrases like: "You must be kidding," and "You ought to be ashamed." But the IBM team showed no emotion, save outright indifference. Confidently, we proclaimed our conclusion: Only one of the seven IBM patents would be deemed valid by a court, and no rational court would find that Sun's technology infringed even that one.

An awkward silence ensued. The blue suits did not even confer among themselves. They just sat there, stonelike. Finally, the chief suit responded. "OK," he said, "maybe you don't infringe these seven patents. But we have 10,000 U.S. patents. Do you really want us to go back to Armonk [IBM headquarters in New York] and find seven patents you do infringe? Or do you want to make this easy and just pay us $20 million?"

>Thus they come up with large numbers of what most Slashdotters see as legitimate inventions.

Legitimate?;
http://news.com.com/2100-1017-961803.html
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/10/17/005232.shtml

You'll enjoy this excerpt from the 1994 winner's entry (CNET):

As the fading light of a dying day filtered through the window blinds, Roger stood over his victim with a smoking .45, surprised at the serenity that filled him after pumping six slugs into the bloodless tyrant that mocked him day after day, and then he shuffled out of the office with one last look back at the shattered computer terminal lying there like a silicon armadillo left to rot on the information superhighway.

Google tries to patent Web syndication ads

Google is claiming that it has invented a unique way to distribute online advertising via syndicated news feeds--and it wants a patent for the technology.

If granted, the patent would presumably give Google the exclusive rights for "incorporating targeted ads into information in a syndicated, e.g., RSS, presentation format in an automated manner," according to its patent application titled, "Embedding advertisements in syndicated content." ...

Google, Yahoo and a number of start-ups are eyeing syndication as a new outlet for delivering online ads. If Google is granted the patent, it could be a big blow to its rivals in the field, said Forrester Research analyst Charlene Li.

"It would really stifle competition," Li said. "It would be a pretty powerful patent to have."

(read more on CNET)

More evil from Google:
Google sued for firing executive pregnant with quadruplets

News.com is running the story Google hit with job discrimination lawsuit, which describes how

"Christina Elwell, who was promoted to national sales director in late 2003, alleges her supervisor began discriminating against her in May 2004, a month after informing him of her pregnancy and the medical complications she was encountering, according to the lawsuit filed July 17 in a U.S. District Court in New York."

In May 2004, after she became pregnant with quadruplets and during the same month that she lost two of the unborn children, her superior told her that her job as VP of national sales had been eliminated and requested that she take a job in Google's operations division, a position for which she had no experience. Google refused to allow her to take the lower position of East Coast regional sales director, instead firing her and hiring someone with no Internet sales experience.

In mid-June, another Google executive offered to place Christina in the operations job she had already rejected, while in the same email accused Christina's husband of "acting under false pretenses by telling Google that Elwell was having a health crisis".

After Google's director of HR confirmed that Christina had been terminated improperly, she accepted the lower ranking position offered, but then lost a third unborn child and within two days of returning to work on July 19, her doctors ordered her to cease her work because the stress that Google and her supervisor were putting her under created an even higher risk of losing her remaining unborn child.

After she returned from disability leave, rather than allow her to work in sales, Google fired her.

Googles tries to patent syndication ads

Here they are.

According to The Inquirer, they aren't:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24894

http://news.com.com/Intel+to+build+next+plant+in+A rizona/2100-1006_3-5802816.html?tag=nefd.top

Me:
IIRC Microsoft had distributed a warez version of Visual Basic 6.0 with a warez group nfo file due to the wrong cd going to the presses.

You:
Do you have any proof of this?

Well, I can't seem to find the information regarding the incident that I was referring to. Mostly because I don't remember the exact product.

I thought it was Visual Studio 6, but I did put IIRC because I didn't know for sure. However I can find proof of a similar incident, in which Microsoft distributed a virus (too easy guys, let it go. . .) in it's software.

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-935994.html

but not on the Canadian store, which I am required to use because I live in Canada (global market my ass).

Heh! Exactly.

Looky:

RTFA'd (Among the key features of Vista as it currently stands are:security enhancements:)

Don't make me laugh!!! Still broadcasting on netbios. Still using ActiveX! Still running Internet Explorer. Still using that ridiculous firewall that Nessus plugins can easily bypass.




RTFA'd( a new searching mechanism )
Big deal. Linux has had that for a while now:

https://infserver.unibz.it/kat/


RTFA's( parental controls and better home networking )

squid proxy caching and good old ifconfig guis: all on Linux/FreeBSD/Whatever


RTFA"d(
here will also be visual changes, thanks to Avalon, ranging from shiny translucent windows to icons that are tiny representations of a document itself.
)


shiny transluscent windows. Like this (Composite Extension in xorg + KDE 3.4)??? Hah!
icons that are tiny representations of a document itself. Like this (any recent KDE or GNOME version) ??



RTFA'd (

...Promises also said the idea of giving laptops the ability to turn on quickly is something customers want and a quality that is arguably better delivered today by the rival Linux operating system.
)

Hate to say I told you so, but...



RTFA'd(
The company is also considering setting up a "mobility center" within the Longhorn software that would be a centralized place to adjust settings, such as power management, display and networking.
)


And this is new???

(repost from http://news.com.com/5208-1030-0.html?forumID=1&thr eadID=2246&messageID=11929&start=-184
  thanks to "Alex Vandeputte" )

You are grossly misinformed, and it's a shame that you decided to spread the wrong information (but somehow I have the feeling that was the purpose of your post: FUD).

- You do not have to release under any open source license anything compiled with GCC.

- You do not have to release under any open source license anything that uses Linux various libraries (unless statically linked, which you shouldn't do anyway) - there is a "Lesser" GPL (LGPL) that provide such exceptions.

- It's only if you took existing GPL code and modified it that you'd have to release it BUT only if you distributed such code (for money or for free.) You can use it internally without ever showing your modifications to anyone in the outside world.

There are a bunch of vendors that produce Linux products (compile with GCC, and linking to LGPL-ed Linux libraries) such as IBM and Oracle. Their products are not open source, nor do they break any licenses or laws by not open sourcing their product.

You need better lawyers. If they had as much as read the FAQs on the GPL website, they'd have this figured out. But again, I smell an ulterior motive in this post...

Already trolled Slashdot.
Nice creative writing, smartass..

Could you stop fucking trolling?

If I am not mistaken, I think .NET 2.0 was pulled (or at least significantly scaled back)and would be included as a later stand alone addition/download (a la WinFS).

XAML, if you want to do a little reading for fun, there is a good review of it that concludes:

Examined superficially, XAML tags have many of the features of traditional Web standards like HTML, as well as those of newer Web approaches like Mozilla's XUL. Alas, it lacks proper CSS stylesheet support. Examined more deeply, however, XAML tags reuse, reinvent, and renew many standard idioms from the software development world in a highly integrated way.

There are also people out there who see XAML as just a proprietary XML and MS will try to do to XML what they did with JScript/JavaScript

That doesn't count loads of other features, like the explorer, IE 7, a ton of security features, better search, better web services through Indigo (try doing web services with PHP now - I've done it, and it's such a pain that it's not really worth it. Microsoft nailed web services in 2002, and the new stuff is even better!).

I have alway been happy with SOAP/XML and it seems like they are doing pretty well Also, it seems like Indigo isn't what it used to be, or at least not yet. We also do not know how these new services will affect other internet users, presumably they will be a Vista only feature and in that case, how many developers will fully embrace them with MS's current adoption rate for XP. Will the Vista adoption rate be better or worse? One could argue not as good due to the increased system requirements for the "full" Vista experience, compared to the 98/2000 upgrade path. We went from 66MHz/16MB/225MB to 133MHz/64MB/2GB to "current processor, current computer". From that I guess 2GHz/512MB-1GB/64MB-128MB-256 VRAM, (hard drive space is not an issue anymore) That is quite an increase in specs, though I admit that is extrapolation from this:

Will my PC run Vista? That depends on how recently you bought it. Microsoft Allchin said in an April interview that he expects Vista will need about 512MB of memory and "today's level" of processor. The ability to display all the fancy new graphics will depend on what type of graphics card one has. On some older machines, the graphics may look similar to today's Windows.

Apple is doing the slapdash hacks, and Microsoft leads the way in beautifully architected software.

Now you are just tossing out some flamebait. "Slapdash hacks" is a disservice to the wonderful integretion of OOS into OS X. Also OS X has been lauded by many (I hate to do this, but this was the best all-in-one collection I could find without searching/cutting/pasting all night. This is only slightly bigger than the attention Apple was given for Panther.

Also, MS has been accused of many, many things, but has never been accused of creating "beautifully architected software". Seriously, XP SP2 took some important steps, but I am not going to say any such words until I see a final p

If I am not mistaken, I think .NET 2.0 was pulled (or at least significantly scaled back)and would be included as a later stand alone addition/download (a la WinFS).

XAML, if you want to do a little reading for fun, there is a good review of it that concludes:

Examined superficially, XAML tags have many of the features of traditional Web standards like HTML, as well as those of newer Web approaches like Mozilla's XUL. Alas, it lacks proper CSS stylesheet support. Examined more deeply, however, XAML tags reuse, reinvent, and renew many standard idioms from the software development world in a highly integrated way.

There are also people out there who see XAML as just a proprietary XML and MS will try to do to XML what they did with JScript/JavaScript

That doesn't count loads of other features, like the explorer, IE 7, a ton of security features, better search, better web services through Indigo (try doing web services with PHP now - I've done it, and it's such a pain that it's not really worth it. Microsoft nailed web services in 2002, and the new stuff is even better!).

I have alway been happy with SOAP/XML and it seems like they are doing pretty well Also, it seems like Indigo isn't what it used to be, or at least not yet. We also do not know how these new services will affect other internet users, presumably they will be a Vista only feature and in that case, how many developers will fully embrace them with MS's current adoption rate for XP. Will the Vista adoption rate be better or worse? One could argue not as good due to the increased system requirements for the "full" Vista experience, compared to the 98/2000 upgrade path. We went from 66MHz/16MB/225MB to 133MHz/64MB/2GB to "current processor, current computer". From that I guess 2GHz/512MB-1GB/64MB-128MB-256 VRAM, (hard drive space is not an issue anymore) That is quite an increase in specs, though I admit that is extrapolation from this:

Will my PC run Vista? That depends on how recently you bought it. Microsoft Allchin said in an April interview that he expects Vista will need about 512MB of memory and "today's level" of processor. The ability to display all the fancy new graphics will depend on what type of graphics card one has. On some older machines, the graphics may look similar to today's Windows.

Apple is doing the slapdash hacks, and Microsoft leads the way in beautifully architected software.

Now you are just tossing out some flamebait. "Slapdash hacks" is a disservice to the wonderful integretion of OOS into OS X. Also OS X has been lauded by many (I hate to do this, but this was the best all-in-one collection I could find without searching/cutting/pasting all night. This is only slightly bigger than the attention Apple was given for Panther.

Also, MS has been accused of many, many things, but has never been accused of creating "beautifully architected software". Seriously, XP SP2 took some important steps, but I am not going to say any such words until I see a final p

Ah yes, yet another pretender to the iPod Flea throne. :-)

(Note: embedded WMV. For stills, go here or Google 'ipod flea'.)

Too bad both links point to the same site, so no CNET news.

Here it is.

First post?

Why can't my tax dollars go to these projects instead of the military?

Because hammers are expensive.

It's obvious Microsoft is going to buy them.

Companies with the string "Vista" in their company name are prime targets for lucrative acquisition based on trademark overlap.

Anyone remember the company Alta Vista getting bought for 3.3 million by compaq just so they could have a better URL for their search engine?

... earnings were 34 cents per share... boosted by a tax benefit that amounted to nine cents per share...

http://news.com.com/Tax+break+boosts+Microsoft+ear nings/2100-1014_3-5798650.html?tag=nl

It looks like from that tagline (revealed here: http://news.com.com/Longhorns+new+name+Windows+Vis ta/2100-1016_3-5799734.html?tag=nefd.lede)

and of course the name "vista" they are really going to promote the translucent features and the eyecandy.

Oops, forgot to prove what I said. I've been watching too much FOX News!

"OS X is the most advanced operating system on the planet and it has set Apple up for the next 20 years." - Steve Jobs, WWDC 2005

Yes, but where did Agilent come from?

http://news.com.com/HP+names+spinoff+Agilent/2100- 1001_3-229128.html

There was an article posted yesterday on cnet on a medical records system for the Veterans Affairs (VA) hospital system called Vista. It is free for distribution and installation may be payed for by Medicare to help small practices start up. Whether Microsoft intended or not, there will probably be a linkage between their OS and this software.

http://news.com.com/U.S.+to+offer+doctors+free+ele ctronic+records+system/2100-1022_3-5797866.html

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Yesterday there was an article on cnet on a medical records system called Vista that was created for the VA hospital system. It may be supported by Medicare for free distribution to small practices. Whether Microsoft itended or not, there will probably be a linkage between their OS and this medical software. http://news.com.com/U.S.+to+offer+doctors+free+ele ctronic+records+system/2100-1022_3-5797866.html t

Slashdotter observes that ComScore Networks gets a lot of its data from a piece of software called "Marketscore", which sure sounds like a form of spyware.

Slashdotter hypothesizes that the people who prefer Google (over MSN, Yahoo, AOL, and the various "search engines" that are installed by spyware companies) are less likely to tolerate the presence of crap like "Marketscore" on their boxen.

Slashdotter suggests that analyst from Bear Stearns ought to look closely at the source of his data and ask pointed questions as to whether or not there are variables that cannot be measured by ComScore Networks, and whether or not these variables are skewing the data he's paying for.

I've seen other studies where people revealed their passwords for a candy bar or the price of a latte.

Scary.

on other news..

A Pakistani girl has qualified as a Microsoft Certified Professional at the age of 9.

She is working in the new Windows' security layer and create anti-linux FUD on her spare time.

Their interim solution of just using your address to determine your local emergency number probably would have been fine and could have been mentioned to the customer during signup in a disclosure. At least had they set things up like that it might have prevented the FCC from going into regulation mode which they did so quite soon after two parents of a 17-year old girl were shot and the girl couldn't reach 911. Basically, if you're going to take the step to allow Vonage customers to register their phone to use 911 to dial a local emergency number via a web form based on your address (like they had done prior to the FCC ruling), you've already done 90% of the work and you probably should just set this up for all of your subscribers.

Moreover, I don't have to give the litigious bastards (Apple, of course) any of my dough!

If they were sensible they'd trademark "Litigious Bastard" and clean up. I can't count the number of times I've heard people call them that.

I got the crazy idea from Google Chief Executive Eric Schmidt...
Link here.... http://news.com.com/Quote+of+the+day+Cant+see+your +swing+set/2110-1029_3-5713885.html
Text: Quote of the day: 'Can't see your swing set' Published: May 19, 2005, 12:00 PM PDT By CNET News.com Staff
Google Chief Executive Eric Schmidt, in defending his company's privacy policies at a symposium Thursday, said the detail on the new map-linked satellite imagery is deliberately limited. "We cannot see your swing set, and we're not trying to," he said, adding that Google has complied with government agency requests to blank out areas of its satellite maps. "The value of more information so overwhelms its misuse that we've not had material problems there."

MS also hired a lot of Borland's developers and even sent some of them on paid leave for an extended period. Presumably this was to take out or weaken competition from Borland's C compiler which was the main option for MS-Windows users at the time.

The non-compete is generally intended to keep you from taking knowledge derived from Employer A's research and development dollars over to Employer B. Poaching employees is a sort of wink-wink-nudge-nudge form of corporate espionage that such non-competes are intended to prevent.

As long as the non-compete is properly scoped and is null and void if you're fired, there shouldn't be a problem. If it's overly broad and applies even if you're fired, then you should refuse to sign it. If you're the type of employee who would be valuable enough to poach, you're also one who is valuable enough to negotiate his/her employment contract rather than accept the first draft.

The last place I worked, I usually had a higher salary and more stock options than my direct manager because the exec who recruited me wanted me badly enough to go to bat for me in the contract negotiations.

- Greg

For the past five years, all we've heard about is the threat of 'offshoring' IT work - and I'm convinced a big reason for this was as a 'bargaining' tool for HR depts. to use to drive down IT salaries.

IMO, the 'threat' was much less then we've been lead to believe, and recent articles such as this Tech skills pulling in more pay seem to support that. (After all, the IT industry has been through this before in the late-80's and early-90's. Back then the 'enabler' was supposed to be cheap international phone rates and trans-oceanic data lines, now it's supposed to be the cheap and ubiquitous internet. It failed back then because, as now, developing software or complex IT infrastructure is not like putting together brake assemblies.).

Funny thing about that is, if offshoring by-and-large fails (which I'm convinced it will for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that wages are skyrocketing for IT workers in most other countries), the management geniouses in the U.S. are actually exacerbating the situation by trumpeting 'offshoring', driving skilled labor from the industry and convincing young minds-full-of-mush that there is no future in IT.

Mental Note: Be wary of management pissed off because some 'geek' is taking home more then them (while they conveniently forget that most of those geeks work twice the hours mgmt. does).

PS: I originally saw the link about on the MSN.com website. Most stories from CNET stay linked for at least a day on that site. This one was linked for 4 hours at the most.. Hmmm, odd how the (very) occasional contra-offshoring story get almost little or no exposure..

Coding misstep forces new Firefox release

http://news.com.com/Coding+misstep+forces+new+Fire fox+release/2100-1002_3-5792635.html?tag=nefd.top


well....at least we have extensions.... here's my list:

TextZoom - because I'm blind as a bat
Adblock - use with Filterset.G from http://www.pierceive.com
Session Saver - saves tab sessions _when_ firefox crashes
Web Developer - lot of web dev options
IE View - click to view in IE
Target Alert - let's me know what I'm clicking on
ForecastFox - show forecast
FindBar Switch - makes the find bar toogle hide/un-hide with CTRL+F
Download Statusbar - much better than the download window/popup
SpellBound - because my spelling sux

an article to go nicely with the story http://netscape.com.com/Opera,+Firefox+squabble+ov er+best-browser+claim/2100-1032_3-5740879.html shows another side to the whole FF thing.

Hello, CNN.

And yes, this /. story is a dupe.

Hello, CNN.

I'd love to have an external LCD display showing the time, even when the machine's not on. hell, that'd even be useful on a desktop machine

It's coming

Or google for "Microsoft auxilliary display"

According to this article, voters approved a 125 million dollar bond for the project. Since the population is only 116,000, that's over $1000 per resident.