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Comments · 52
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Re:They don't know what "hard" is.
Hmm.. systemd in ruby on rails.. Interesting concept but I don't think to many people will like it. Instead, they should just try the windows really good version. there is an online demo here but it relies on flash.
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Re:Windows NG was a better name
No no no, you want Windows RG (Really Good) edition.
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Re:Microsoft wants more money again
You mean install the really good edition?
There is even a flash demo if you want to check it out. Just don't use that combo they made a few years ago which took what they thought was the best parts of Windows CE, Windows ME and Windows NT and created Windows CEMeNT (as hard as a rock and dumber than a brick).
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Re:Classic Desktop
win9x?
You should check out the RG version. RG stands for really good. It was only released in limited quantities but there are working demos all over the place.
http://www.deanliou.com/winrg/
Just select the flash demo and take the tour.. Can't get much more classic then that.
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Re:But will Microsoft sue?
That didn't ever stop Apple from suing either. Even though Windows originally clearly was an OS 9 parody. Really Good Edition.
And since MS nowadays is hell-bent on becoming a bad Apple clone. (Not that Apple itself isn't the biggest danger to actual computer usage, average intelligence and human information processing power in the history of computing. MS Clippy and even MS Bob got *nothing* on iOS with autocorrect and a clickwheel.)
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Re:So what comes next?
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Re:Window RT
I remember Windows RG being, Really Good.
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Re:They will have to invest in carriers
Wasn't there a joke about windows CE and the desktop?
Oh yeah, Microsoft took the best of windows CE and ME on the consumer desktop and combined it with windows NT to come up with Windows CEMENT- hard as a brick and dumb as a rock.
Anyways, you shouldn't be worrying about all these windows versions and just use the Windows RG, the Really Good version.
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Re:crash faster
Windows 8 should scare you a little. If you look at Microsoft's history, they have a pattern of in-between favorite releases being more of a testbed then a release.
If we start with windows 95, we get windows 98 which they fixed half way through with windows 98 second edition which was pretty stable by the time windows ME came out. Windows Me either rocked for you or it sucked donkey balls. If it worked, it worked well, if it didn't, it hardly ever did. Then came XP which by all accounts was a world of improvement over windows ME and stability once again resumed. We then got the testbed for windows7 which was windows vista. Vista is comparable to windows ME in that it seemed to try but wasn't the little engine that could. Now we have windows 7 which once you get used to the UI differences from XP, is once again the solid result of the previous operating system or beta version.
It actually goes back a little further then win9x. As a user who has had experience with working on and fixing MS based systems since DOS 4.01(a), and later windows, I will gladly wait for windows 9 or at least a service pack or two for windows 8 before trying to be productive with it. windows 8 should be the testing platform if MS maintains its trend.
Of course you could always go here and play with the windows really good edition.
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Re:Can't we all stop bickering?
Plus Windows RG was already taken.
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Windows RG?
Am I the only one who thought of Windows RG upon seeing the headline?
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Window Really Terrible ?
Wow, I LMAO when I heard this being a real name for Windows. Did nobody at Microsoft remember the Internet Meme Windows RG (Really Good)? http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/ So, instantly I thought "Windows Really Terrible"?
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Re:Objective-C growth
WinRT? I prefer WinRG
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Re:It's change for the sake of change
I have to disagree. This change is not undirected. It seems you're missing the key point:
If you look at the stated goals, the main theme is always "simplicity". But those UIs don't feel easy to use. Let alone efficient or useful. They feel limiting and slowing down.Now I've said for years, that our second* error in UI design, was to oversimplify the goal of highest efficiency to highest simplicity. And that they key thing that got lost because of this, was that we stopped caring about achieving "more with that less". If it made it simpler, then suddenly "just less" was OK.
It is quite obvious that that results in a useless, limiting UI over time.But why did we oversimplify it? Well, I blame the Dunning-Kruger effect, natural selection's pressure to be efficient with resources, and developers generally being rather socially insecure geeks (included me
;).
I watched the whole process for at least 15 years, and it basically always goes like this:
10 People complain about problems they have with the UI.
But the Dunning-Kruger effect results in louder complaints from the lower part of the Gaussian distribution curve of intelligence than from the higher part.
20 The developers listen to their users, and logically hear mostly complaints of it being "too hard". But instead of trusting their own knowledge of how to make something better, and only using the user input for correction and inspiration, they bow to users in fear of not being loved anymore (sorry for being so harsh, but it's true) and adapt the software by making it simpler, at the cost of it becoming less efficient. (Which ironically results in them not being loved anymore in the long run.)
30 Humans, being life-forms in a world of limited resources (time/energy/etc), adapt to this simpler UI by saving those mental resources.
40 BUT: Since this now lower level of brain use is not a single number but again a Gaussian distribution curve, we again have a lower area that again thinks this is too hard. (One of Murphy's laws: Nature just invents a better idiot. ;)
50 GOTO 10Repeat this often enough, and you end up with
- Clippy / MS Bob
- The iPad / ClickWheel laptop ;)
- Ubuntu Unity / Gnome 3
- Basically any piece of GUI software designed since the Xerox Alto. (Or: Anything UI-like that's not like VIM/Emacs. ;)* The first error, as seen in all CLI shells, VIM/Emacs, etc, was to not know / ignore the fact that "The user does not know what he wants, until he knows what he can get.". Example making it obvious: Add a Sidebar to VIM showing the currently available actions (where ": -> Command" is e.g. a state-changing action and in its state, "% -> For the whole text..." is a action.), and suddenly, your grandma can use it after understanding the basic principle.
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Windows RG (Really Good)
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Heh, if you liked that
If you liked that experience, you should check out the windows really good version
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sure, why not
people have been able to run windows in a browser for a long time now, its about time Linux got this feature too...
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Re:Secretly...
I miss Windows ME.
I missed Windows ME...
I went from 98se to 2K. Personally my favorite was Windows RG(Really good Edition)
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Re:Surprise!
Windows 2000 was never intended to be a "general user" or "home user" platform and it's original launch date was intended to be in 97 or 98. When the NT 5 beta 2 was released, Microsoft was finally hammering home the notion that Windows NT 5.0 was being designed solely for businesses, not for individual users at home. Microsoft's Jim Allchin spoke of releases that would follow NT 5.0, such as NT 5.1 "Asteroid" and NT 6.0 "Neptune," which would feature a consumer edition. Post-NT 5.0, Windows would receive a maintenance-free user interface and a unified Web/Win32 API. "NT everywhere" was the theme of the show. (of course NT 5 is windows 2000)
In line with the Asteroid release containing a consumer edition, it was something like service pack one or two in windows 2000 before some of the more major problems with consumer level access was addressed.
Windows ME however was the original 98 to NT transition plan that Gates was talking of back in 1998. It's release was behind then rushed too. XP was the first planned and first implemented consumer lever transition to the NT style Kernel. The NT numerical names would have been windows 2000 as NT 5.0, Windows XP as 5.1, and Vista or the 2008 server as NT 6.0.
There was a rumor that MS was going to combine the best of windows CE with ME to create a consumer level NT platform but it was scrapped as marketing feared the slogan would become windows "CE ME NT": hard as a rock and dumb as a brick. Anyways, in the middle there, MS did come out with the windows "really good edition". This version was one of my favorites and you can even run a demo of it on that site.
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Re:How inconsiderate!
If you have Flash running you should be able to get the full Windows experience from here: http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/
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heres a demo
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Re:WAT
Windows RG will do it for you.
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They had this project years ago...
It was flash-based OS. It is still available here: http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/27549_winrg.swf
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Re:for a quick fix fine
I remember when they released Windows RG. Ahhhh, good times...
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Re:Out of curiosity...
You forgot to mention the popular windows really good edition.
Go ahead and check out the link. Run the demo. It demonstrates all the goodness of windows. -
Re:And inside..
You do realize that MS took all the good things in windows ME and CE and NT and made a kick ass operating system.
You can find more about it here. http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/
I didn't paste a link because I don't want to slashdot this guys site. I didn't ask if I could post a link here and I'm sure a lot of people won't copy and past. But load the test program and check it out. -
Hot off the *cough* newswire...
"This just in: Online Co-op play WILL be available on the PC version released in 2 years. The graphics will be the same, but it'll have, uh, a few new maps!"
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Re:Correlation to pre-installed Windows?
Windows RG: The successor to Vista.
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Web based OS already available
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But is it as good as ....
WindowsRG ? (ReallyGood Edition)
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MS has tried this before...
It was pretty good! http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/WinRG.htm
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Windows RG
Allmost as annoying as Windows Really Good Edition...
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Sneak Preview...
Here's a sneak preview of the OS... Windows RG (Warning - requires flash)
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Re:Oh stop trolling
Do you know why this isn't funny anymore? Because this is the joke most people make who have not tried Windows beyond the 95 and 98SE1 days.
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Re:LinuxME?
Nah, the development linux kernels are more stable than the "stable" ms win9x kernels. Well at from what I http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/remembered.
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Re:This is hardly anything special
Yes I found it the other day, it's lovely. As a matter of fact I'm now using it as my WinME replacement. And it's free! You can download it here! I can't seem to get FireFox installed tho...
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Pfft..
There's been a windows version of this for years!
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Re:WTF?!?!
In this new version of windows, you would be able to order food online. Here is the demo
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Re:Just wondering
yeah, but they have to compete with that hilarious paperclip though...
lets start with the word milk. and sponge, i like sponges.
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Re:Next version of Windows...
Here is the demo of the next version of windows
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new version of windows ...
Here is the new version of windows with updated versions of OpenSSL
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Re:The *REAL* XP Reloaded
Another One you missed.
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Oh how I long for Windows Really Good Edition
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Re:It's a TRAP!!! /Adm. Ackbar
Found it. I have already seen it but I forgot about it.
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Re:You mean you can cripple it more?
Indeed they can, as this Demo of new version of Windows shows..
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Today's technologies on an 80's console?Well, I guess they've done a good job.
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Re:Huh?
I thought they were calling it Windows RG?
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Re:Clippy in the kitchen
Here. Knock yourself out. (Ok, it shoots it for you, but hey, at least it's dead again and again, and again, and again, and....
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Windows RG kills Clippy
WindowsRG
Experience the fun of killing Clippy in Word. -
Re:If Microsoft makes Flash proprietary...
Flash has its uses:
Windows RG
Monkey lander