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Re:Talking about Serenity/Firefly and Windows... by Anonymous Coward · 2005-12-28 16:47 · Score: 0 · on Slashback: Little Red Hoax, Firefly, Google

It's true. I was watching that episode today, in fact, and I had to pause the thing because it shocked me so.

Why, have a screenshot...http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?im age=snapshot200512282338348tq.jpg

Hey, fucktard. by Virak · 2005-12-24 05:36 · Score: 1, Interesting · on 2005 Scientific Highlights

Did you bother to even check the links? Seriously, *flamebait*? Anyways, I took a couple of screen shots to make this easier for you.
This is the version originally linked to.
This is the 'printer friendly' version he linked to.
If you're noticing a certain similarity right about now, that's because they're the exact same fucking page.

Hey, fucktard. by Virak · 2005-12-24 05:36 · Score: 1, Interesting · on 2005 Scientific Highlights

Did you bother to even check the links? Seriously, *flamebait*? Anyways, I took a couple of screen shots to make this easier for you.
This is the version originally linked to.
This is the 'printer friendly' version he linked to.
If you're noticing a certain similarity right about now, that's because they're the exact same fucking page.

Re:horrible by Anonymous Coward · 2005-12-23 15:53 · Score: 0 · on Opera Purchase Rumour Control

You also seem to have the pretty theme disabled. Shots of that can be found here: http://opera.com/docs/screenshots/

And just to show how customizable the UI is, here's how I like my Opera:
http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=operascre en5co.png

And yes, there are skins to make it look like FireFox or Safari, but some people will complain no matter what because they are afraid to give Opera a chance.

Re:horrible by Txiasaeia · 2005-12-23 04:45 · Score: 1 · on Opera Purchase Rumour Control

Bloated? As another poster mentioned, the download is a little under 4 MB. As for ugly, methinks you haven't taken a look at it lately:

Opera 8.51 (with navigation buttons moved, otherwise everyhing else default).

Re:Attention Whore by MasamuneXGP · 2005-12-22 13:27 · Score: 5, Funny · on Jack Thompson Buys Stock in GTA Parent Company

Ask, and you shall receive.
http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=attention whore27tz.gif

Re:Attention Whore by mkw87 · 2005-12-22 11:47 · Score: 2, Funny · on Jack Thompson Buys Stock in GTA Parent Company

Is this what you wanted?

Re:At the risk of being flamed mightily.. by AA1 · 2005-12-22 08:44 · Score: 1 · on Dvorak Says MS Should Buy Opera

This 'IE' sounds great... does it run on Linux? Do you have the link to the project page?

Run on Linux? yes.

Project page? right here.

Gmail skins by Anonymous Coward · 2005-12-21 10:46 · Score: 1, Interesting · on 3 Email Chiefs Come to Dinner

Hmm, I am working on a firefox extension,
Screenshot:
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/9559/gms7rf.jpg

Does anyone know if gmail is planning something like this themselves (skins)?

Re:Excellent by Gleng · 2005-12-19 04:51 · Score: 0, Flamebait · on MSIE To Adopt Firefox Feed Icon

How about this?

My Solution... by Anonymous Coward · 2005-12-18 07:16 · Score: 0 · on Superman 'Too Big' for the Big Screen

Fig leafs have always been used for this sort of thing. ;-)

Re:Torvalds is right. Avoid GNOME use KDE! by jc42 · 2005-12-13 03:54 · Score: 1 · on Torvalds Says 'Use KDE'

When looking at this legendary example picture:

http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screensho t34ji.jpg [imageshack.us]

You see a bunch of GNOME applications showing different types of Toolbars. I don't want to speak about the images inside the Toolbars but rather how they look. They all look differently, behave differently, react differently, some toolbars are higher than others (a few pixel) others have a drag handle, others show icons only, then others again show text below icons. There is no common approach of doing this correctly.

What I especially notice is something they all have in common: They waste a huge amount of screen real estate with spaces and overly-large icons. If you look at the actual information content of that example, it's about on a par with an 80x24 dumb terminal.

One lesson I've learned over and over is that when I'm working on something, a major constraint on my "productivity" is now much information I can get on the screen at once. Debugging software or web pages or whatever takes multiple windows and somehow getting the stuff you need to work on all displayed. A GUI that wastes screen space like this is a major impediment to getting the job done.

When using a new system, I tend to start off with things like eliminating the title bar on xterms (they take two lines of text and contain no useful information at all - especially since the title text is usually incorrect). I try to find ways to reduce things like menu and function bars to a single bar, to make more space for the actual data. I try to trick the software into using the smallest icons available. I make the borders as small as I can while still being able to grab them with the pointer. And so on. They're all ways to eliminate the pretty GUI stuff and replace it with the actual information that I'm working on.

My main experience with gnome is that I can't eliminate this space waste very well. With KDE, I can do a lot better, so I use that. Sometimes I find fvwm or twm on a machine, and I immediately switch to them because they're very parsimonious of screen pixels.

Pretty GUIs have their place. But so do GUIs that let me display actual information, making maximum use of what pixels are available.

(I use Macs a lot, too. They're really frustrating this way, because you just can't eliminate most of the space-wasting pretty GUI stuff. Effectively, a Mac reduces a screen to about half as many pixels as are really there. ;-)

Re:Torvalds is right. Avoid GNOME use KDE! by Anonymous Coward · 2005-12-13 02:54 · Score: 0 · on Torvalds Says 'Use KDE'

There is no Mozilla and no OpenOffice on the screenshot.

List of applications on that screenshot that don't belong to the Gnome Desktop, although they seem to make use of GTK:

* Easytag
* Unknown web browser that isn't mozilla, epiphany or firefox (no bookmarks menu or mozilla/Firefox window icon). Considering the source, it's probably Atlantis, a personal project that isn't even free software.
* OpenOffice Writer.

Remove all those and you're left with evolution and gedit as part of the gnome desktop, and they use the same toolbar configuration.

It looks just like another pathetic FUD propaganda by Ali Akcaagac, long time anti-gnome troll.

Re:Stupid name change and they broke support by rale,+the · 2005-12-13 02:31 · Score: 1 · on Yahoo Updates Konfabulator

I guess thats nice for you, but trying to install it for the first time, I'm greeted with the following broken installer message.

Considering I've written an app that uses winhttp on this computer, I'm going to have to lean towards blaming Yahoo!'s installer for the problem.

Torvalds is right. Avoid GNOME use KDE! by Anonymous Coward · 2005-12-13 02:22 · Score: 0, Troll · on Torvalds Says 'Use KDE'

As a former contributor and developer on the GNOME architecture for many years I can say that GNOME is in no way ready to serve as the corporate desktop. There are simply to many issues inside and around the entire GNOME movement that should be mentioned here.

First of all GNOME has a very broken development framework with a lot of fragmentation. A lot of libraries are not working properly enough even in stable releases to give users a full working desktop environment. A lot of stuff are simply not working properly and a lot of stuff simply look too far disharmonic to be usefull. Not to speak about the poorly written third party applications that exists that don't serve any corporate needs.

From a developers view I believe that GNOME has reached a dead end where scalability isn't possible anymore. People have realized that with the C languge there is no progress and thus decided to code under Python, C++, Java, Ruby or MONO. But personally I believe that having a mature GNOME desktop these days require you to have Python, MONO, Java running next to your regular application, which makes it hard to have all of them incooperate correctly (to work correctly). This is not the problem of having different languages laying around or running in the background but more architectual nature as soon as it comes to bugtracking, feedback, expandability etc. Many bindings are not well implemented and have a lot of attributes not correctly defined which makes applications look and behave differently.

As example I always get back to the legendary Toolbar issues that I like to explain. I do explain it because it's the by far easiest thing people can test on their own system.

When looking at this legendary example picture:

http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screensho t34ji.jpg

You see a bunch of GNOME applications showing different types of Toolbars. I don't want to speak about the images inside the Toolbars but rather how they look. They all look differently, behave differently, react differently, some toolbars are higher than others (a few pixel) others have a drag handle, others show icons only, then others again show text below icons. There is no common approach of doing this correctly. Sure some people say these things are not important. But from a developers point of view - they are. It only shows in what bad shape GNOME really is even today with latest CVS you see the same issues still present. It should give the beginner and advanced users an impression what's wrong. A Desktop Environment should provide a consistent API and framework to do these things correctly. Please load up GNUMERIC, Abiword, Evolution, Evince and a few others and go through your "Menus & Toolbars" capplet (control center) and change around the values and you see that the majority of applications bundled in the corporate GNOME desktop do not react on these changes. Personally I consider these things to be a bug. I already reported many of these issues and recently my toolbar bugreport to gnumeric got closed as NOT A BUG with some random intransparent excuses why the HIG cant be applied to gnumeric. This is quite frustrating since the applications look bad that way (only the aesthetic view that GNOME always wanted to lay big values on). There are so many other areas like button padding, button padding between other buttons and and and.

It's a never ending story. Also I ask myself why tools like Evince or Epiphany (both part of the GNOME desktop) come with an own Toolbar editor while other applications don't support that. From a developers point of view this should be part of the GTK+ Toolkit and made available default to all apps or everything that uses the Toolbar.

Thats the big disadvantage of writing apps in C without proper object orientation (yes I know GNOME has some sort of object orientation). If we look over to KDE for example then we see that every application that uses a Toolbar (not all apps need

BADSENSE by ebooborg · 2005-12-11 08:44 · Score: 0 · on Webhost Sues Google

heres a reason you shouldnt advertise with google :)
GOOGLE BADSENSE
in case that site goes down heres a scrennshot screenshot

its really funny (or not funny if you are a google adwords advertiser)

Re:How does this look? by atari2600 · 2005-12-08 10:44 · Score: 1 · on How Long is Too Long to Update?

In fact here it is: http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2118/windowsupt ime9tu.jpg The username and organisation details have been blacked out for obvious reasons and yes i do use the system fairly well (coding, doubling up as a stress client, email, browsing and other general usage).

Picture Mirror (Karma Whoring) by Vicsun · 2005-12-08 07:43 · Score: 1 · on Get RSS Feeds on Your Toilet Paper

Maybe it's because I'm torreting Linux ISOs, but both the picture and the article seem to be displaying at atrocious speeds. Here is a mirror of the picture. I guess you can use Mirrordot or something for the article, but honestly, who reads the article?

Re:amaroK by morbuz · 2005-12-07 13:54 · Score: 3, Funny · on Music Should Be Heard But Not Understood

Yeah, and the lyrics database it uses has everything:
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=macgyver6 ld.png