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How about displayport WITH Audio
I just want displayport implementations in laptops to transfer audio as well? Even the current Lenovo W500 laptop, which comes with a displayport, does not transfer audio over it. Even if you buy the bluray option for the laptop. It just pisses me off that there's no way to get high quality audio out of this laptop. Even lenovo admits this.
I'm just sick of these ever evolving home theater standards. There was a time when most home receivers didn't support DTS and dolby digital and so if you had a DVD which was only encoded in one, and your receiver didn't support it, you were out of luck.
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Don't like it? iPad Killer for LESS!
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Re:Will the same happen to phones?
Not much on the phone. Windows Mobile is not at all competitive and hasn't been for a long time. In terms of usefefullness and coolness, the Blackberry, iPhone and Android past it like it was standing still.
Im not sure what your point is about the netbook. We certainly havent done anything to inhibit them. We like them quite a bit, most of them ship with Windows. Linux is said to run well on them, but I havent tried it myself. I do know that W7 runs great on them. My friend just bought a Asus for his daughter. Single core Atom, 1GB memory, Intel 945G graphics - runs W7 just fine. I ask his daughter how often she plugs it in. She said "at night, like my phone".
Well there be a market for something less capable that doesnt run Windows? Say something with 512MB of memory, a 16GB SSD and something like the Intel GMA 500 Graphics? I dont know. We shall see.... Consumers want general purpose computing devices - even as phones. Apple has proved that. Palm proved that with their original Pilot device.
On the tablet space, Microsoft has been the leader there for a long, long time. Have you tried W7 on a tablet PC? I have it on a Toshiba M4 and its really good. Despite the crappy hardware (and them M4 is crappy), it works extremely well. Systems like the Lenovo tablet are really, really good.
The Windows handwriting recognition is excellent. No funny virtual keyboard needed. My daughter writes entire papers for school on it with ease and accuracy
The Multi-touch in W7 is pretty good too - especially considering its first generation.
Of course, there is TONs of hype about the new Apple iSlate. Well see how that works. Is it just a big iPhone? Or will it be a general purpose computing device? For example, will it run Windows office for the MAC. Here is my prediction: If it does, then it will be a hit, if not then it will be a niche produce. But if you believe the speculation, then it will be a MAC, but look a lot like the iPhone. The puported specs are very PC like... Apparently well see on Tuesday.
One thing Apple does great is engender customer happiness and loyalty. Heck, my direct family has five iPhones! We love them. (note, iTunes surely truely sucks, the Zune software is light years better....) Wikipeida says that through Q2 of 2009, Apple had sold a total of 21.17 million iPhones. Thats pretty spiffy. To put things in perspective:
Apples iPhone hhas topped Microsofts Windows Mobile in U.S. market share of smartphone operating systems for the first time, putting it in the No. 2 spot, according to a report from ComScore released Thursday. [ cnet december 2009 ]
Its phenomenal that the iPhone went from zero to #2 in three years. But as awesome as it is, it is still just now #2 with Blackberry still being #1 and Windows Mobile a close #2. People tend to forget that its not the dominant smart phone - its one of three.
Im not sure what you mean by diction, but I think you mean voice recognition. That hasnt yet arrived as a technology. But its starting to be pretty useful. Have you tried Bing on the iPhone? Its better than Google on the iPhone and it has server based voice recognition. I think its based on the Tellme technology we acquired in 2007. Microsoft has long invested heavily in speech recognition research. The stuff in Vista was actually pretty good - better than Dragon Naturally speaking. The W7 stuff is better still. But! Its still not ready for prime time like on the Jetsons or Star Trek.
But its getting there: Of course we are running the lat
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Re:His prices are insane
at least not in the US
ThinkPad T/R 14W 9 Cell High Capacity Battery, US: $143.20 (about £88.04)... or £1.05 / watt hour
ThinkPad T/R 14W 9 Cell High Capacity Battery, UK: £110.34... or £1.31 / watt hourThat’s not even a terribly large difference... the digital camera battery I looked up was almost twice as much in the UK (£29.99 vs. $29.95).
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Re:His prices are insane
at least not in the US
ThinkPad T/R 14W 9 Cell High Capacity Battery, US: $143.20 (about £88.04)... or £1.05 / watt hour
ThinkPad T/R 14W 9 Cell High Capacity Battery, UK: £110.34... or £1.31 / watt hourThat’s not even a terribly large difference... the digital camera battery I looked up was almost twice as much in the UK (£29.99 vs. $29.95).
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Re:What's old is new
That would probably work best. Or he could have had half a brain, not bought an overprice piece of aluminum, and picked up something like this with the digitizer built in:
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Lenovo still recommends Windows 7
I just went to IBM's website, which links to Lenovo. Lenovo still recommends Windows 7.
What does this mean?
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Lenovo T400
I am currently using a Lenovo T400 Which has a great deal of the features that you are looking for. It allows for dual monitors (which I use all the time) It has a hot swap drive slot which will accomodate a CD/DVD RW, Hard Drive not sure about an extra battery however I seem to get about 4 hours out of the one battery I have with the IBM battery Miser that is built in. You can get an awesome docking station with pretty much everything you are looking for and I am booting win2000 (I know it's not 98 but I don't have a copy of that to give it a try), winXP, and Suse Linux. It has 2 Gig of Ram a 180 Gig drive and a Intel Centrino Duo core running a 2 GHtz and a Radion HD 3400 Video Card. This machine does great for me and it is in your price range as well (I picked it up for a little over a thousand but it looks like they are going for 749.00 http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087¤t-category-id=19C791A03AF24034A0011B825513BCED/ now.
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Value Line and save.Lenovo has a "Value Line" that has the features that you need. The link has a comparison chart with the "Thinkpad" line.
If you can, why not save a few bucks and get the "Value Line" or be able to spend the extra money on more RAM, peripherals, etc.... or beer? I see a few features with the Thinkpad line that may be unnecessary for a developer.
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I don't think that's entirely true
He said "Aside from enthusiasts who just like following the stuff".
I might have a passing interest in the progress of processor technology but I'm actually specifically interested at the moment because I'm on the look out for a new laptop. For me that means looking at a Toshiba, a Lenovo (and Dell, Fujitsu etc) and trying to make a judgment about what advantages and disadvantages each has and comparing them to see what makes the most sense for me.
I've found Intel's processor designations mind boggling. They do have a pretty good comparison tool though, which can help clear things up once you've narrowed it down to a few options. -
Re:It's Sony
Then start hating on Lenovo as well. They show you the option, but don't let you change it. I think you're just looking for ways to hate on Sony:
http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=ideaPad&thread.id=11293&page=2I'm sure there are other manufacturers doing this as well.
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Re:What? Malicious code??
Sorry for the double post, but here's another one:
http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=ideaPad&thread.id=11293&page=2 -
Re:What? Malicious code??
Two seconds on Google:
http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=X_Series_Thinkpads&thread.id=10864 -
Re:IBM Trackpoint
These thing are amazing, the server room at work has boxes of them I have one for my personal keyboard. You can also get them from Lenovo here (This is the full flavour version you can also get a compact version as well). A bit pricey they are, but when you can kick back, put you hand on the keyboard and never have to have them leave it is just heaven, not to mention that you don't need a flat space or space at all to move your mouse. They do take geting use to but all who I have got to try them have never looked back.
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Shocking
I never thought I would see the day that an iconic US American brand being sold off to a Chinese company.
This is truly unprecedented.
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Re:Not going to buy Lenovo again
As a counter point, I have a Lenovo T60, and over several years, I've only had to deal with technical support once. That once was when the fan suddenly got loud (I cleaned it first -- no joy), I called up Lenovo, told them the problem and they shipped me a replacement (for $0, under standard warranty) in a couple business days. I replaced it myself using the hardware manual and I was back up and running again in less than an hour.
Maybe that's not the usual case, but there was very little I could complain about there.
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Re:Sounds like you've covered it pretty well
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Re:Lithium-ion polymer may be the next advance
Besides, that figure of above 280Wh/kg seems too good to be true. Best available consumer LiOn batteries for laptops (and that is the most used application of these to date) pack about 150Wh/kg give or take, which is about half of what you quoted. And laptop batteries are but at the edge of the development there.
A modern LiOn battery for Thinkpads (link below), rated at 14.4V and 5.2A/h (i.e ~75Wh) weighs 400g (most of it is LiOn cells) which puts it at about 187Wh/kg. Impressive, but still far from those 280Wh/kg you quoted. If laptop batteries were manufactured at that figure today, we would be getting at least 7 hours of battery life on an average plastic-fantastic consumer laptop at full brightness, wifi on and surfing away (consuming 20Wh on average)
That Panasonic battery is most likely experimental/lab product.
Do you have links to some press-release information or something like that?According to Wikipedia, and I for one, although not blindly, come to trust the source for the most part:
Energy per weight figure for LiOn: 100-160Wh/kg
Energy per weight figure for LiPo: 130-200Wh/kgProbably a bit outdated in light of advances, but still.
Also I cant seem to have read anything about optimizing LiPo for high power output. Part of the point with LiPo is replacement of heat-sensitive compount with another not-so heat sensitive compound for better safety, plus the fact that the polymer that is the chemistry can more easily take shape of whatever battery case you need, in contrast to prismatic LiOn cells, which leaves holes in between them, wasting space.
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Re:At the Workstation levelDon't know how you came up with that number?, especially seeing as you provided no links to the manufacturers web sites.
Price is in USD, I got $3,386.00 for the same spec (1 TB HDD, 2.66 CPU, 4 GB RAM). Also HP is not your only choice when it comes to buying a workstation. Were you just piling everything on. Also the Mac Pro and HP XW8600 arent even in the same league, the Mac Pro is a single CPU, Single Graphics card workstation (the mid range of the high end), the HP xw8600 is a Dual CPU, Dual video system (the highest of the high end) of course you are going to be paying through the nose just for the motherboard, its server equipment so its inherently higher quality but works out at roughly the same as the Mac. HP just doesn't have a system that's equivalent to the Mac Pro specified, which is why I suspect you chose it. Also HP need to update their xw line (no nehelem processors), which it looks like they are in the process of doing with the Z line.
As I said, HP is not your only choice, in addition to Dell, Lenovo have a workstations line (Prices in AUD again) The top end S20 goes for A$3,080. All specifications except for the HDD is the same or greater then the Mac Pro, but feel free to chuck on an extra A$400 for a 750 GB HDD.
In my personal opinon, HP's a rip off that relies on its brand name impressing CxO's.I also have to admit that the OS plays a role in my judgement. OSX just works better than Linux + KDE4, especially in portability between networks.
Personal preference aside, OS is determined by the software, very few high end enterprise packages use OS X. ArcGIS is Windows only, several other GIS and renderers are Windows/Linux or Linux only. So if I buy Mac Pro's, I still need to get Windows licenses and test all the Linux drivers myself.
Apple doesn't offer on-site repairs, that's very true, but I haven't worked in a company that took advantage of any of that. My current company has a few hundred Lenovo laptops, we don't get Lenovo to come fix them, we send them back and get a repair. Same thing with the HP workstations at my last company of roughly 1300 users. I don't know why they don't get on-site repairs, but they don't.
I can negotiate with our Levono and Dell suppliers as a company of less then 100 staff. Dell will give me A$200 straight off the top of a A$3000 PC, more if I order in Bulk but the Lenovo reseller requires me to order 5 or more to get any decent discount. If your work hasn't got a support agreement, its the fault of whoever was doing the contract negotiation with the supplier, we get on-site support from Dell and Levono (I'm assuming that you are in or near a major city) support is a big thing when doing bulk supply negotiations as it normally is one of the larger line items.
When working with a company of more then 250 people, live spares are always kept (by the sounds of it you don't work in the support/systems administration area, not an accusation its just an observation). Also a lot of basic repairs are done by local IT staff (this often is part of the support agreement) whilst collect and return agreements are used for critical problems (at this point the machine is basically replaced with a new one). -
Re:It seems ironic...
My 15" Thinkpad W500 has 1920x1200 resolution.
Out of curiosity, I went to lenovo's web site, and found the details page for the Thinkpad W500. According to my browser, neither of the strings "1920" or "1200" occurs in that page. I can't find any other page that tells the resolutions, either.
As a somewhat wary customer, I take this to mean that if I order one, they can ship me one with any resolution they have on hand at the moment, and I have to accept it because it was what I ordered. Laptop vendors are somewhat notorious for doing this, with various components varying from day to day as different suppliers offer the best price each day. This is a serious problem if you're trying to determine whether a machine will run specific software. Mostly you read about it causing problems for things like wifi or bluetooth, where different hardware requires different drivers and often have different incompatibilities with other brands of "the same" hardware. But I've seen a few cases where two machines with the same model number have visibly different screens.
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Re:I want one with a removable key
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Lenovo Ultranav
This one's cool. It's the awesom Thinkpad keyboard without the Thinkpad!
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Re:Forget Apple...Lenovo missed it bigtime
They had a chance at having a netbook so good that nobody would come even close - if only it had X-series-like formfactor (clit!) with option for sensibly shaped, beefy battery. Hell, I'd pay two times the typical asking price for netbook.
What, did they discontinue the X-series Tablet or something?
Granted, it's bigger and more expensive than what you (or I) would like, but it's still been the best small convertible tablet for the past several years now.
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Re:Leave Stallman alone *sobs*
Wait a minute...Dell (and HP, and Lenovo, and Toshiba, ad infinitum) already tell me what software I can run on my new computer. And that's always Windows.
- Dell - Ubuntu and FreeDOS (they also offer Solaris, Red Hat and SUSE on their servers)
- HP - various Linux distributions
- Lenovo said they would offer SUSE preloaded on their Thinkpads, though I can't find one now.
- Toshiba provides support for Linux on their systems.
That's just with ten minutes of googling. I'm sure you could do better with more time.
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Best Buy Blueshirts
Whatever you think of Best Buy, they have a successful internal community in Blueshirtnation.com. A google search turns up quite a lot of industry praise on those guys. It was even written up the Groundswell book by Forrester.
If you want your bosses to buy, make sure you give them plenty of examples of other companies being successful at it.
For me, the biggest business benefit to the call center is knowledge sharing, but you have to be careful because communities need a critical mass in members to be successful (or a highly dedicated internal resource building content and encouraging participation). Only the biggest call centers could make it self-sustaining. However, another idea might be to launch a peer-to-peer support community and invite your customers in. You can have a private area for employees, but have a larger area where customers can ask support questions. And unlike email, once a question is answered, everyone can use it. Dell, Lenovo, Juniper, Linksys, AT&T, Blackberry all have successful support forums.
On IRC, I use it at work but my frustration is that it has no real history - I've seen the same questions come up time and again. On a forum you can search and find past discussions.
Disclosure: I work for Lithium Technologies , an online community provider.
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Re:Wait for Tuesday....
actually, the Lenovo x-series tablets have spill-resistant keyboards that channel spills out the bottom of the system without damaging internal components. having a recessed keyboard or not doesn't make much of a difference when there are open gaps where liquids can seep through between the keys. it's what you do with the liquid that gets under the keys that matters.
i don't know if Macs have this safety feature, but having a raised keyboard won't protect it from spills any more than a recessed keyboard.
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As a ThinkPad owner...
... you could get a slim battery charger from Lenovo for your ThinkPad and buy different tips for each of your gadgets. There are tips for different phones and even the iPod
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As a ThinkPad owner...
... you could get a slim battery charger from Lenovo for your ThinkPad and buy different tips for each of your gadgets. There are tips for different phones and even the iPod
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Re:The end of apple as a name of "quality".
Anyone have suggestions on where to buy quality hardware i can load osx86 on?
Sure. Right here. I've got a T60 that run's Leopard quite happily.
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no word on speeds at this point???
If you had linked to the source, instead of a weak article, you would find all the words you need. 3.0GHz My fantasy machine costs a little more than $5,100 us.
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Re:Discrimination
So where would you put the Wacom on this laptop...
Oh I don't know, on the screen, maybe? You know, like a normal Tablet PC, which is exactly what this is except that Tablet PCs have bigger digitizers and work better because the strokes appear where the user actually drew them.
I mean really, what kind of idiot would want this?! It's like getting a really tiny Intuos when you could have had a nice big Cintiq for less!
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Re:With XP? How about without Windows?
Anyone know if I talk to Lenovo I can get them to sell me the laptop without Windows?
Ask them:
http://www.lenovo.com/contact/us/en/
1-866-96-THINKIf they do, they'll tell you. If they don't, then they need to hear it from us that we want to be able to buy systems without the MS tax. If we don't ask, they will never know that's what we want.
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Re:my personal experience...
Not to drift too far offtopic either, but Apple's machines have been reasonably price-competitive ever since the Intel switch. Price out a machine with similar specs to a Macbook or Mac Pro from Dell.
I'm going to shamelessly reference another post of mine here, one that stood true months ago and still does now.
To be fair, the fact of the matter is that Apple's are more expensive in many cases. I really do get tired of hearing the myth that they are competitively priced. When has Apple ever said this? It is good example of a little too much Kool Aid I think. Here's an example:
I just specced a 2.4GHz, 200GB 7200RPM HDD, 2Gb RAM, 15.4" Thinkpad with an NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M graphics card and 9 Cell (7-8hour) battery on the official Thinkpad site at $1551.42.
The same spec'd machine on the Apple site - the lowest offering in the MacBook Pro range - comes to $1999.00, or $450 more expensive than the ThinkPad and it comes with a poorer graphics card (the NVIDIA Geforce 8600 GT).
When I bought my Thinkpad a few months ago it was the best 14.1" laptop in the market, with spec's that exceeded the top 17" MacBook Pro I configured (out of curiosity) on the Apple site while still being $1000 cheaper. It has excellent build quality, runs Linux very well and has the famously good Thinkpad keyboard: the fact it's less expensive than the MacBook Pro is not reflected in the quality of the hardware.. (another popular myth)
The reality is that Apple computers are made by Quanta computing, a company who manufacture around 60% of the world's portables: Apple hardware is no longer vastly unique. This doesn't at all have to be a bad thing: you're paying for a brand you like with the software you like.
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Re:Should've upgradedJust pay the $1099 and get a new MacBook. You'll get the latest in WiFi and Bluetooth capabilities, a beautiful TFT screen, a fast dual-core processor, plenty of RAM, a battery that's new, battery life that his 5 yr old laptop could only dream about when it was new, a massive hard disk, ... and a DVD/CDRW combo drive. Seriously, what's the deal with Apple not including a DVD burner in their $1100 notebook? Also, "plenty of RAM" and "a massive hard disk" seem like exaggerations to me, since it comes with 1GB of RAM and a 120GB hard disk. Lastly, the MacBook's white color makes it look like a Fisher-Price toy. (The brown Zune looks elegant in comparison.) The black MacBook looks much better, but costs $1500. a multi-touch touchpad (cue nipple-warriors), Since TFAuthor has been using his ThinkPad's nipple for five years, he's less likely to be impressed by the MacBook's touchpad. Also, the MacBook's chicklet keyboard is going to be a huge step down from the ThinkPad's keyboard (especially for a writer). All in all, a pretty good deal.
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Re:EEEPC already does that. M$ is over.Microsoft takes credit for every machine that is sold with Vista, whether or not that machine is sold with an XP install or whether the user subsequently wipes Vista and replaces it with something else. So basically every laptop sold to a business with a site license has counted as a sale of Vista, even though almost every large business replaces it with their own image. I smell bullshit (or incompetence). What "business" laptop maker gives no other options except Vista when they sell their business laptops? Any large business order should have the option of ordering business laptops with Windows XP, no OS, or their own image preinstalled.
Heck, even small businesses can order laptops without Vista. Check Dell's Small & Medium Business laptop store. Or HP's Small & Medium Business laptop store. Or Lenovo's ThinkPad store. At all of these "small business" stores, it's just as easy to order a laptop without Vista as with Vista.
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Re:Ok
Thirdly, Why would you WANT to pay the "Microsoft Tax", or have to deal with fighting with a machine who's hardware might only be partially supported under Linux. Vs. a machine with NO "Microsoft Tax" AND will have all hardware fully supported in Linux? Why make things harder on yourself?
Because they actually have them in stock so you can get it quicker and in more configurations?
I was/am looking at buying laptops and specifically looking at lenovo, take a look at
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087¤t-category-id=F2F5363C71FA4D61B176AD5FB80FA5D8
Hrm.. no bluetooth, no nvidia option for graphics, and it comes with suse which I'd replace with having to install ubuntu? No thanks, rather just grab the windows version, get the laptop sooner, and probably keep windows on there so I don't have to deal with fun things like linux's APM support.
Maybe install CoLinux to run any Linux killer apps if Linux ever gets any that don't run natively on windows. Makes more sense than running Linux and using Wine daily. -
Re:nothing really useful
There's quite obviously no Quadro to Go card, as nobody but Alienware (in one model, iirc) ever cared to implement swappable mobile graphics modules with the intent of actually selling different adapters.
There, however, are several notebooks equipped with mobile quadro chips, most notably Lenovo's ThinkPad Tp Mobile Workstations. There's even some T series ThinkPads (without the p) equipped with QuadroFX chips.
Also, note that the discussed hack identifies a GeForce series card as it's equivalent Quadro version. If there weren't any mobile Quadros, there'd be no PCI-ID to mimick and the driver would consequently not use it as a Quadro. -
What About....So the X61 and "X61 Tablet are not standard 4:3 format?? They may be small (I felt a 14.1" screen was small compared to my old A31 15"), but they are 1024X768 displays. I now have the X61 tablet and it may be small but is by far the best laptop I have used.
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What About....So the X61 and "X61 Tablet are not standard 4:3 format?? They may be small (I felt a 14.1" screen was small compared to my old A31 15"), but they are 1024X768 displays. I now have the X61 tablet and it may be small but is by far the best laptop I have used.
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Link please...
Where does it say they have retired the standard screen version => lenovo shop still has this version on sale
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X Series> Today Lenovo retired the last NON-widescreen laptop they offered
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Re:This shouldn't be a surprise!
What exactly does IBM have to do with Thinkpads now?
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Re:Huh?
Good links. The HP Linux stuff is amazingly hard to find on their site, but it's there:
http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/cache/321152-0-0-0-121.html
Lenovo is easier to find:
www.lenovo.com/think/linux
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Re:ThinkPads still use non-reflective screensMan someone suggests a mac gets modded up and a guy pointing out a flaw gets modded down. Of all the groups in
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Re:Obligatory
Lenovo has some Suse Thinkpads.
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They don't want you to use Vista, anyway
Have you checked Lenovo's site? The X300 comes with XP by default.
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Why would I need to?
LOL, Have you ever used Vista?
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Re:Wow...
Strange how the "Macs are expensive" myth is still out there.
To be fair the Mac range is simply often far more expensive. For those of us that don't care for OS X the MBP just isn't a sane buy while better hardware exists for less cost.
I've always thought Thinkpads were a luxury laptop, however after reading many customer reviews, reading benchmarks, reading about build quality and looking at prices it turned out to be a very sane idea to buy one. I couldn't find a better spec'd, more performant and portable laptop with these features, let alone at the 14.1" footprint. I have around 6 hours battery life at normal use, a better graphics card than the most expensive MBP (the 17" has only the 8600 GT) and with twice the RAM (MBP is just 2G).. for $1000 less. Better still it has a keyboard to which no other laptop can remotely compare.
See for yourself:
The best spec'd MBP is $2799. A better spec'd T61p is $1728.. The T61p$1000 less expensive.. -
Re:Design
Lenovo and Thinkpad are not one and the same. Lenovo now makes Thinkpads, but they also make their own brand as well:
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/na/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:CompareByNeed?current-category-id=653343E0DE54435882FABC3CE1BC569A If consumer reports included the Lenovo laptops as well as Thinkpads (If they included Thinkpads at all), it could and would skew those results. -
Re:ThinkPads have always been expsensive
How do you figure? These prices seem pretty reasonable to me.