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I'm using data from Yahoo, and using operating income/loss, especially since Tesla loves to talk about non-GAAP and operating income/losses only. Or are these different numbers?

From Jul 2012: "To be honest, Apple is more than fairly valued... assuming high margins hold up and revenue continues to increase at least 10% per year. Problem is, both those assumptions are looking doubtful from where we stand today.

Good one.

Thanks for pointing that one out. (BTW, I don't go back digging through my old posts, you must be really triggered.) Look at APPL from Aug/12 to Jun/13... straight down from $95 to $65. You would have made a mint by acting on my opinion. AAPL didn't get back to where it was until 2014.

You couldn't have done a better job of establishing my power of clairvoyance if you had tried. Now I am not predicting that AAPL is headed straight down, but that the downside risk is significant. Honestly, don't put your retirement funds there. But if you think I'm full of shit, then go ahead and load up. Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

You made the assertion, burden of proof is on you.

Poll shows that 40% of republicans believe that Russians helping republicans keep control of Congress is either appropriate or not a big deal.
For the 2016 presidential election the figure is 33%.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news...

Too bad paywall... But some form of criminal conspiracy? Like conspiring with a presidential candidate to win a debate? So far, what we have are people being indicted for actions taken prior to the Trump campaign (and, in fact, often whilst working with strong Democrat lobbyist groups), or for "lying" about something that wasn't criminal, prohibited, or illegal in any way, shape or form (basically a process crime).

Now, there ARE several indictments of Russians, but given that the previous Administration told the cyber security chief to stand down about investigating any issues, well - it seems that the previous Administration should be held complicit to any Russian wrongdoing.

Nope they are ranked dead last in customer satisfaction.

It's actually worse than that now. Yahoo finance is showing an 18.23% drop right now

Don't get me wrong. I think Google should fry if they're blocking competing search engines from their browser. But:

Google also owns duck.com and points it directly at Google search, which consistently confuses DuckDuckGo users.

They wouldn't be so easily confused if the DuckDuckGo landing page didn't look nearly identical to Google's landing page. Contrast to Bing, Yahoo, Ask, Startpage, Qwant, Yandex (#1 in Russia), Naver (#1 in South Korea). The only other major search engine which makes the same mistake of copying Google too closely is Baidu (#1 in China).

Because there's just so many ways to visually format a search website.

Google also owns duck.com and points it directly at Google search, which consistently confuses DuckDuckGo users.

They wouldn't be so easily confused if the DuckDuckGo landing page didn't look nearly identical to Google's landing page. Contrast to Bing, Yahoo, Ask, Startpage, Qwant, Yandex (#1 in Russia), Naver (#1 in South Korea). The only other major search engine which makes the same mistake of copying Google too closely is Baidu (#1 in China).

Especially when you consider the "boogeyman" that the Democrats now attack, was dismissed by the same Democrats as "irrelevant" in the 2012 election. And that all these supposed attacks/hacks/collusion happened with 100% knowledge - and effectively explicit blessing (via commands to "stand down" and not attempt to stop) - of the Obama Administration.

Democrats ridiculed Romney over his concerns about Russia. And President Obama told the cyber chief to stand down with regards to Russian interference in the 2016 election. And now suddenly it's all bad Russia and it's all President Trump's fault?

You are wrong. SG&A is actually increasing as a percent of gross margin. And subtracting SG&A from gross margin leaves Tesla losing money. This is before R&D or interest expenses, even. It's right in their published quarterly financials which I linked to.

They just paid $287MM in taxes for Q1 2018, and over the last two years paid a little more than $2B in income taxes alone. They also paid about $250MM in State taxes (Washington does not have a business or individual income tax). Or do you mean they should pay a tax on their value, not their income?

Nope. Look at the financial report. It's a separate line item. Just check the financials. Gross profit of $456MM. Subtract out the R&D ($367MM) and SG&A ($686MM), and you end up with the operating loss (-$597MM).

Per their financials, the cost of product and SG&A (Selling, General and Administrative - costs required to have a business and sell product) already puts them negative. So yes, they lose money on every vehicle they sell - before R&D and capital expenditures and debt servicing.

Check Tesla's financials. They lose money before you include R&D or capital expenditures - startup costs. Basically, the cost of the product (cost of revenue) and the administration/sales support for that product (SG&A) already put them negative.

Last quarter they had $3.4B in revenue, and the cost of that revenue was $2.95B, leaving them with $450MM in gross profit. SG&A was $686MM - meaning that just the cost of the product and the sales/administrative overhead to sell that vehicle results in a $236MM loss.

R&D, Interest Expenses, capital expenditures - those aren't even discussed at this point, we're already at a loss. It's not startup costs that are killing Tesla - it's too little gross margin on their product for their current SG&A level. Either they have to massively (and I mean by 50% or more) slash their sales and administrative costs, or they need to increase the price of their product. If Tesla completely SG&A (an impossibility, but we'll say they can for now), they still lose money based on R&D and interest. And we haven't even discussed capital expenditures.

Fundamentally, their financials simply don't work. They need to either dramatically change everything about everything they do, or they have to increase the revenue (price) of each product by 40% or more. It doesn't work out any other way.

One thing they could do is eliminate their own dealerships and let others run them. If you look at Ford, GM, BMW, etc. you'll see their SG&A is less than half that of Tesla's, per car. And it's predominantly because a huge chunk of the cost of sales, administration, support is covered by the dealers, who get a 10% margin on the vehicles sold. So the normal car companies "give" 10% of their margin to dealers, in exchange for taking on more than 60% of the SG&A costs. Tesla is trying to do it, so it's "saving" 10% of revenue and eating 230% of the SG&A than a normal car company should. Company car stores don't make sense - they are a financial death-blow, but Tesla won't change that, it's too much of their "mystique". But that one change there could well put them close to profitability...

A Massive Cache of Law Enforcement Personnel Data Has Leaked

SJW donut shop revenues hardest hit.

You see, because SJW owners of donut shops will know who they are and feel obligated to refuse service to them and ... oh forget it ;)

It was funny inside my head ...

See, the fact that I had to explain the humor means that I was myself acknowledging how weak it was ... which is funny in a meta kind of ironic way ...

(It's humorsplaining Friday, apparently)

A Massive Cache of Law Enforcement Personnel Data Has Leaked

SJW donut shop revenues hardest hit.

You see, because SJW owners of donut shops will know who they are and feel obligated to refuse service to them and ... oh forget it ;)

It was funny inside my head ...

A Massive Cache of Law Enforcement Personnel Data Has Leaked

SJW donut shop revenues hardest hit.

It is the end of a business if you lose money on each item you sell trying to meet all that demand. More sales means more losses... And before the Tesla fans come in and say I'm wrong - check the Tesla financials. You'll see they lose money before you even bring in things like R&D and interest payments. Just sales of items and Selling, General and Administration puts them into the red.

I usually ignore ACs, but you're special...:)

Here are Tesla's financials. Check the Quarterly link. You'll see they had a gross profit of $456MM. Now, let's look at expenditure. SG&A is $686MM itself. So even before R&D or capex, we're already negative. R&D is another $367MM. Interest is $150MM. Heck, R&D and interest alone wipe out all (and then some!) of their gross margin. They lose money on each car they make, just with the cost of the vehicle and SG&A (which is kind of required to sell cars - you need a sales system, administration, and transportation to actually, you know, SELL vehicles).

Here are the facts. Gross profit of $456MM. Selling General Admin costs are $686MM. That puts you negative right there. R&D is another $367MM. Interest is another $150MM. That's how Tesla keeps losing $700MM per quarter. And again - looking at the financial statement, it's losing money before R&D and interest costs.

Here you go. Gross profit is COMPLETELY eliminated by just Selling General and Admin costs. That's not including interest expenses, R&D, etc. Gross profit in Q1 2018 was $456MM, and Selling General Admin costs were $686MM. That's a quarter of a billion loss BEFORE we even include R&D, interest on debt, capex, etc. Oh, and that's from Tesla's financials.

Facts are facts - cheerleaders need to realize that...

Check the financials. Tesla loses money on every car it sells. Look at gross profit and subtract sales, administration, and general. You're already at a loss. BEFORE R&D, capex, interest, etc. Tesla isn't eating anyone's lunch, it is eating its own tail. Ford, GM, VW, Toyota - they make profit on every vehicle, enough that they also pay dividends. There is no worry there...

https://finance.yahoo.com/quot...

That is who 'owns' amazon. Rando group that owns 500 shares does not 'own' amazon any more than my 300 shares of intel give me any influence on them.

I bought TSLA, 2/3rds of it at $264. And was widely ridiculed on Slashdot for doing so because, dontchaknow, Tesla can't make cars and they're going bankrupt any day now.

Check the stock price now.

A big shoutout to all of you shorts who handed me your money. I'll use it to pay for my Model 3. ;)

But please, don't give up on your short thesis. I and other longs look forward to your next surge in short interest, because this next time, THIS NEXT TIME, the bankwuptcy is for REALZ, right? The past 4 short squeezes were just fluke events, rather than a sign that your thesis is fundamentally flawed ;)

Amazon made $3 billion in profit last year, so $250 million would be about 8%. That's not much of a round-off error, is it? For what it's worth, Seattle's annual budget is about $5.6 billion - almost twice the profit that Amazon makes.

You do realize that Tesla loses money on each unit they make, don't you? The cost of the product minus the cost of administration and sales ends up as a loss. This is BEFORE any R&D spending or capital expenditures. Tesla could completely eliminate 100% of all engineering, and completely halt all spending on capital equipment and they still lose money on each car. It's why they are losing over $4500 per MINUTE, 60 minutes an hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Tesla's stock is down 12% in the last 12 months in a strongly up market.

confirmed

Seems like a clear case of cherry picking.

Plus, Musk is a whiny little snowflake. He can't get enough of uncritical media praise, of which there is has been tons, but anything remotely critical and he shits the floor. Its nice he's doing the electric car thing, but lets not buy into a cult of personality here because there is tons of evidence he's got a shit personality (he fired his 12 year PA when she asked for a raise he used underpaid illegal foreign labor to build his factory he uses illegal union-busting tactics and he was emotionally abusive to his first wife, treating her like an employee.

Billionaires have their place, but they aren't special geniuses, they are just 99.9% lottery winner and 0.1% skill. If there was no Elon Musk, there would just be some other billionaire doing the same work. Do not put your faith in princes.

In case it wasn't clear to any Facebook employees reading, see this story from earlier in the week, and some of your predecessors that have gone this route before. You are living in a bubble - please raise the alarm to the others in there with you before it pops.

You are out of touch with reality. The Dow shot up from 19,827.3 to 25,075.1 -- an increase of *26 percent* the day of (or day after) Trump's inauguration.

It is you who is out of touch with reality. When reality set in after one year of the the Trump presidency, the Dow promptly fell by 9%. The 2017 runnup was the holdover from the golden years of Obama's 2nd term (which did not include any global financial crisis caused by Republicans dismantling regulations). Then the reality of the Trump presidency set in, did I mention that?

The most VALUABLE company in the world: Berkshire Hathaway. After all, their stock price is a huge $290,975 per share! They have to be the most highest valued company according to your logic, right?

So true, the stock has gone from $38.00 to $0.40 per share. Apparently they are losing $22 million a month, and down to $43 million in the bank.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quot...

Let's just go to the bottom of your comment first, so we can see just how nuts you are:

We're currently enjoying peace and prosperity, for the first time in decades.
Is there any point or purpose in making shit up about the administration?

No. So why are you doing it? This is not a moment of peace (In fact, America has been involved in military action continuously since WWII) and it is also not a moment of prosperity (see PR's sibling comment, also, the unemployment rates are a disgusting lie as always.)

I realize being a liberal comes with a big dose of cognitive dissonance, but the "he's literally Hitler" thing was dropped months ago.

It really wasn't, since he keeps saying things that hitler literally would have said.

Anyway, back to the top of your comment, now...

the current administration's descent into kleptocracy

WTF?

Trump is in debt, which is why he won't show his tax returns, and is staying at Mar-a-Lago every weekend. He charges us (The People) for this privilege, so that's one way he's stealing our money directly. No big surprise: All Trump profits are based on theft, and of course, impersonated a person who does not exist in order to create his initial reputation. Many of his various appointees are in trouble for various types of misuse or misappropriation of funds. So yes, theft.

we can literally shoot them in the middle of the street and face no legal consequences as there's absolutely zero authority of law and justice anymore.

WTF?

I'm with you on this one, anyway. That's not how force works.

Remember, Trump himself has personally declared that government by brute force is his preferred means of action, that he endorses terrorism and coercion,

WTF?

Trump has repeatedly encouraged and condoned violence. His picks for secretary of state and head of the CIA support the rest of the statement perfectly.

TL;DR: When you cry about other people's logic while you abandon it entirely, HAHAHAHAHAHA

If I read correctly that do not actually have the *cash* to pay for this takeover, but will finance the operation. Given how recently ToysRUs had a very slow and painful death due to a similar leveraged buyout, I do not expect this one to go well either.

According to their financials, Fox made ~3bn last year in profits:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quot...

This means it will take 20 years for them to pay off the 60bn debt. This assumes no investment in R&D, staff, or paying dividends. (That is why ToysRUs become unable to compete, they had no profit margin left after payments).

Comcast is in a better position with 20bn in profits:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quot...

However will they skim from shareholder dividends to pay for Fox operations? It looks like they are already down by about 2%, meaning the idea is not liked on the market.

And this is before anything about the customers. They would want to milk every *value* out of current customers, meaning worse service and/or higher prices across the board.

I do not have any shares in any of these companies, however if I had one, I would have voted against such a merger. (for clarification, I'm no financial expert, this is my personal opinion, don't act on it)

If I read correctly that do not actually have the *cash* to pay for this takeover, but will finance the operation. Given how recently ToysRUs had a very slow and painful death due to a similar leveraged buyout, I do not expect this one to go well either.

According to their financials, Fox made ~3bn last year in profits:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quot...

This means it will take 20 years for them to pay off the 60bn debt. This assumes no investment in R&D, staff, or paying dividends. (That is why ToysRUs become unable to compete, they had no profit margin left after payments).

Comcast is in a better position with 20bn in profits:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quot...

However will they skim from shareholder dividends to pay for Fox operations? It looks like they are already down by about 2%, meaning the idea is not liked on the market.

And this is before anything about the customers. They would want to milk every *value* out of current customers, meaning worse service and/or higher prices across the board.

I do not have any shares in any of these companies, however if I had one, I would have voted against such a merger. (for clarification, I'm no financial expert, this is my personal opinion, don't act on it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... for its video.

Also, Rick voice acted in last week's Goldbergs S5E21: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyl... ...

Drinkypoo is correct at least as far as the current round of fracking goes. They are injecting absolute crap in the ground, industrial waste and chemicals that they have laying around and can dispose of. If they were in fact using water, even grey water it would be a different story.
Not to mention the link between fracking and earthquakes, which may or may not be true.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fra...
https://amp.livescience.com/62...
https://www.abqjournal.com/151...

Due to the Trump tax breaks and repeal of net neutrality, the communications cabal is racking in record profits:

Comcast Q1 2018 profit beats expectation:

  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/2...

Verizon : Q1 2018 MASSIVE profit boost of 32%

https://www.highgeekly.com/bus...

These companies are carving up the internet (Comcast is "bundling Netflix", oh, and if you don't pay the higher Comcast rate, your traffic 'flix gets punished aka: deprioritized) and monetizing user data just EXACTLY as the NN supporters claimed would happen. The result is massive profits... which drive stock prices, higher consumer costs, and poorer user experience...

They got the bump from the tax cut in December when it passed, any NN stock bump would already be priced in as well.

But now the market is responding to the fact that people are dropping their cable subscriptions faster than expected.

There was a pretty significant spike that started after November 4th, 2016. The DJIA had been pretty darn flat for 2 years until the election - then it took off. Coincidence? Or was it investor confidence that caused the run-up since then?

Windows ME, Vista, Version 8 - Microsoft has been having problems here and there with Windows for some time. In 2015, Nadella combined their hardware efforts with the Windows Universal Platform, allowing for cross platform applications [1]. Things didn't go as hoped. While Windows 10 is popular, overtaking Win 7 by February 2018, overall PC sales has been declining. In fact, they have been losing ground for the last 6 years, with a 2.8% drop in 2017 [2].

Consumer Reports stopped recommending the entire line of Surface PCs in 2017 due to hardware concerns. These days CR rates the Surface Pro 4 positively, but they still claim Microsoft is less reliable than most brands, and Apple is the most reliable laptop brand [3]. BTW, if you're interested, Windows can be installed on a Mac with OS X's dual booting Boot Camp. Best of both worlds.

Now, Terry Myerson, the leader of the Windows and Devices Group, is leaving Microsoft. With his departure, Microsoft is creating 2 new teams that will prioritize Microsoft's cloud and artificial intelligence products. Perhaps this is an effort to appease investors [4]. With Myerson's departure and this re-prioritization, it's no surprise Windows applications like Mail are having problems. I expect more trouble across the Windows spectrum. Microsoft's head is in the clouds, and their application platform is in the sunset, rear window.

[1] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-182823659.html

[2] https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-vs-windows-7-has-microsofts-newest-os-just-reached-a-turning-point/

https://www.arnnet.com.au/article/632157/2017-saw-pc-shipments-decline-six-years-straight/

[3] {May be Paywalled} https://www.consumerreports.org/products/laptop/microsoft-surface-pro-4-384902/overview/

[4] http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/29/news/companies/microsoft-restructuring-windows/index.html

What does CA have that no other part of the USA has?

since you asked: https://answers.yahoo.com/ques...

Okay, you can snow ski and water ski in the same day, Earthquakes, Death Valley; with the lowest, hottest and driest place in North America. It's 282 feet below sea level, is only 2 degrees below the worlds record of the hottest day ever recorded at 134 F and the average rain fall is about one and a half inches. We have more people in prison than any other state at more than 170,000. We have more cars than any one else. California is the biggest melting pot in the world. Every fourth person was born in a different country. Mount Whitney, 14,505 feet tall and is the highest place in the 48 states. And only 85 miles from Death Valley. Silicon Valley, home to Google, Yahoo, E-Bay, Apple.......too many to list computer company's. Oh the most cell phones, the most area codes. The Biggest and oldest living things on the planet. The Giant Sequoia Red Wood trees. This could go on forever. I hope I helped out.

Facebook had 100MM users in 2008 and about 1 billion in 2012. Considering that there were about 130MM votes cast in 2008 and 125MM in 2012, I'd say that 100MM to 1 billion users is quite a large number to scrape. It was 10 to 200 times the margin of victory in each election.

Original post by Puffin Fitness: https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/85p30j/deletefacebook_movement_gains_steam_after_50/dvz4y6o/

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In 2009, Russian social-media mogul Yuri Milner invested $200 million into Facebook at a valuation of $10 billion dollars without voting rights or a seat on the board. To understand this investment, at the time the world was going through a global recession and Facebook's general valuation had dropped from the $15 billion from the year prior to $4-$6 billion in 2009.

https://www.cnet.com/news/facebooks-valuation-the-cheat-sheet/

One company did offer a valuation of $8 billion, but with a seat on the board, which Zuckerberg was strongly against. In other words, Yuri Milner invested in Facebook when they were strapped for cash and at an inflated price without voting rights or a seat on the board. That's an amazing deal for Zuckerberg!

Here's Yuri Milner and Mark Zuckerberg hanging out for an interview: https://techcrunch.com/2009/05/26/mark-zuckerberg-and-yuri-milner-talk-about-facebooks-new-investment-video/

The deal was coordinated by Alisher B. Usmanov, a Russian oligarch that earned his fortune managing steel mill subsidiaries for Gazprom.

Usmanov spent six years in prison for fraud and embezzlement in the 80's.

In 2008, Usmanov fired a publisher and editor at one of Russia's most respected news paper after it published detailed accounts of Russian election fraud.

It is said, "His ties to the Kremlin and Facebook have stirred concerns that he might influence the companyâ(TM)s policies in subtle ways to appease governments in markets where Facebook is also an important tool of political dissent, such as Russia." This was in 2009.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/16/technology/a-russian-facebook-bet-pays-off-big.html

Usmanov is close friends with Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alisher_Usmanov

Ivanka Trump and Wendi Deng are good friends with Abramovich's then wife, Dasha Zhoukova. Here they are watching a tennis match.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3784716/Ivanka-Trump-Karlie-Kloss-Wendi-Deng-Murdoch-watch-Open.html

The leak of the Paradise Papers revealed the money Yuri Milner used to invest into Facebook came from Gazprom, a US sanctioned Russian oil and gas company, at one point owning 9% of the company.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/what-is-the-paradise-papers-leak-facebook-yuri-milner-facebook-twitter-russia

Soon after, Zuckerberg and Milner became friends, meeting monthly:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zuckerberg-got-early-business-advice-194957335.html

And even spoke together in November 2015 at the 2016 Breakthrough Prize Ceremony.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/what-is-the-paradise-papers-leak-facebook-yuri-milner-facebook-twitter-russia

In May 2012, Milner attended Zuckerberg's wedding. In 2014, Milner moved to California home he paid 100% above value on.

http://time.com/5011000/paradise-papers-tax-ha

Identity politics is a tool (one of many) to keep the proles divided and distracted and bickering amongst themselves. When the entire world is partitioned into a giant Venn diagram of competing "identities" - each obsessed over which group among them is the most oppressed - there's zero chance of mustering up the will or numbers to tackle any problems that actually matter, and the 'elites' are free to plunder the world at their pleasure.

Just imagine a left wing group trying to get something like OWS going in 2018. Even their one day Vagina Cosplay March nearly collapsed under the weight of unchecked white privilege and cultural appropriation.

'Stand down': How the Obama team blew the response to Russian meddling

This is the second of two excerpts adapted from Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin’s War on America and the Election of Donald Trump (Twelve Books) by Michael Isikoff, Chief Investigative Correspondent for Yahoo News, and David Corn, Washington bureau chief of Mother Jones. It will be released on March 13.

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Then Brennan turned to an even more sensitive issue: Russia’s interference in the American election. Brennan was now aware that at least a year earlier Russian hackers had begun their cyberattack on the Democratic National Committee. ...

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This was the first of several warnings that the Obama administration would send to Moscow. But the question of how forcefully to respond would soon divide the White House staff, pitting the National Security Council’s top analysts for Russia and cyber issues against senior policymakers within the administration. It was a debate that would culminate that summer with a dramatic directive from Obama’s national security adviser to the NSC staffers developing aggressive proposals to strike back against the Russians: “Stand down.”

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It's not like David Corn has a goal of protecting Donald Trump...

I was hoping to see inside Uranus.
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OKAY! It's been posted. Sorry folks, you're too late to make the joke now.

I don't know why you think that is a joke. It's called the
Advanced NASA Atmospheric Lithographic Lidar Probe and it was designed to update us about the aerosols in Uranus.

Last I heard they were figuring out just how many instruments they can include to explore Uranus and the rings around it. First the rings and then and deep as they can go for as long as there is battery power remaining to keep all of the instruments going before it is crushed by the pressure of the most concentrated source of methane in the solar system. That's right, there is a lot of methane in Uranus.

If you're laughing now, you can just stop it - you're being juvenile. Exploring Uranus is a serious undertaking that many people are committed to and clever jokes about "hoping to see inside Uranus" are just unsophisticated. We're better than that here.

Would those be non-inert hydrocarbon aerosols?

I was hoping to see inside Uranus. . . . . . . OKAY! It's been posted. Sorry folks, you're too late to make the joke now.

I don't know why you think that is a joke. It's called the Advanced NASA Atmospheric Lithographic Lidar Probe and it was designed to update us about the aerosols in Uranus.

Last I heard they were figuring out just how many instruments they can include to explore Uranus and the rings around it. First the rings and then and deep as they can go for as long as there is battery power remaining to keep all of the instruments going before it is crushed by the pressure of the most concentrated source of methane in the solar system. That's right, there is a lot of methane in Uranus.

If you're laughing now, you can just stop it - you're being juvenile. Exploring Uranus is a serious undertaking that many people are committed to and clever jokes about "hoping to see inside Uranus" are just unsophisticated. We're better than that here.

So you are citing a fictional character for what is normal, typical office behavior.

Here are some real-world examples:

(1) A post written last month states that, "I work in a workplace where ... dirty talking, sexual innuendo, double entendres and joking sexual invites are part of the every day occurrences."

(2) A post written in 2003 that states that, "The relationship between colleagues is great, not only professional but personal, too. When we talk, we can say dirty words ..., tell naughty jokes, and sometimes even flirt. Both sexes enjoy them"

(3) A page with some people trading "dirty jokes" to tell at work.

(4) A poll conducted last year which states that 44% of adults feel that "dirty jokes weren’t a form of sexual harassment" in the workplace.

Where I live, parents use to say that it would make you deaf, not blind.

https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/q...

Actually the answer is all Facebook IP addresses will be censored out of existence across the entire EU. They could even demand the set up EU only servers and all data stored in the respective countries only, which pretty much seems on the cards. Once you charge for advertising in a country and target it's citizens with advertisements, you are pretty much stitched up or you accept ceasing operations in those locations. The hate for Facebook seems to be growing in countries, likely just the initial push for a requirement for localised social media web sites to dominate.

Notice how pissed off Soros https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/38... when he realised he was being scammed by internet advertising (they were not winning people over, they were simply collating existing converts, fooled by the numbers on purpose).

The dumbest thing about it is that the EU cheered on Erdogan's attempt to curtail the power of the military because of 'freedom and democracy'.

http://www.washingtoninstitute...

On August 8, 2003, the seventh European Union (EU) reform package went into effect in Turkey, significantly curbing the role of the military in politics. This legislation, passed by the Justice and Development Party (AKP) government on August 4, follows six previous packages adopted since February 2002. Collectively, these reform measures have vastly liberalized the country's political system, facilitating Kurdish broadcasting and education, abolishing the death penalty, and subjecting Turkish courts to the European Court of Human Rights. Turkey now has laws guaranteeing freedom of speech, and the military is no longer the kingmaker in Ankara. As a result, AKP -- a self-styled "conservative democratic" party with an identifiable "Islamist pedigree" -- anticipates that Turkey will pass muster when Brussels reviews its candidacy for EU membership in June 2004. Ankara hopes that the EU will establish an accession calendar, opening the way for Turkey's eventual entry into the union, perhaps within the next decade. These developments are crucial to Turkey's future. Which path will the country take now that the military is stripped of its role as a decision making body? Will the EU open its doors to Turkey?

Of course the EU turned down Turkey's membership.

Then the coup happened and the EU condemned it

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-...

Erdogan used the excuse of the coup for a full on crackdown of critics of his regime, and even convinced EU countries to arrest EU citizens

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ger...

And then threatened to unleash a wave of refugees on the EU unless Turks get free movement

http://nationalpost.com/news/w...

And big pile of cash.

https://www.independent.co.uk/...

The basic problem is that the EU and the West push freedom and democracy and do things like push Turkey to curb the power of the military. But the government curbing the military in Turkey won't lead to a democratic government in charge because Turkey is fundamentally different from EU countries. Traditionally the main counter balance to Islamism has been the military having a coup every few years.

The EU have removed what was essentially an authoritarian check on the political aspirations of the Islamists and not replaced it with a more democratically correct one.

And of course the EU screwed Turkey - it forced a bunch of reforms on Turkey as part of the price of EU membership. Turkey made the reforms and then the EU welched on the membership. And Turkey knows the EU is dependent on it to stop another wave of refugees