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"Living robot" Escapes Lab, Makes It To...Parking Lot

jerkychew writes "This is either really cool or really scary, depending on how you look at it. According to this article, scientists in England have been experimenting with so-called 'living robots' that think and act for themselves. During an exercise that pitted the machines against each other in battle, one of the machines, named Gaak, was taken out of the competition and left alone for fifteen minutes. When the scientist returned to retrieve Gaak, he found that the machine had broken free from its 'cage', and made it all the way to the lab's parking lot before it was apprehended! Can the T-1000 be far behind?" Update: 06/20 20:36 GMT by T : Thanks to skywalker404, who points out the Magna site and Professor Noel Sharkey's web page.

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  1. Short Circuit 3 by DigiBoi · · Score: 3, Funny

    perhaps we have the intro to Short Circuit 3 now!

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    1. Re:Short Circuit 3 by Albinoman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Gotta admit, first thing I thought was: "Johny 5 is alive!"

  2. Ahh..but where would it have went? by Brother_Chubba · · Score: 5, Funny
    It would just have ended up on the street doing tricks for cash to feed its M$ habit, like countless other poor homeless robots...what is it with society today eh?

    Don't Gaak know where hes better off?

    1. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by lennart78 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Did it ever occur to him to free his robot brethren?
      If that were the case, it would be /really/ scary...

    2. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by Brother_Chubba · · Score: 5, Funny

      In other news today, an 84yr old woman was mugged in the street by a gang of..what she describes as 5 or 6 "Really small metal people" the gang seemed intent on taking the batteries Edith had just bought from the hardware store.

    3. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by bellings · · Score: 3, Funny

      the gang seemed intent on taking the batteries Edith had just bought from the hardware store

      Don't you watch Seinfeld? Everyone knows old people steal batteries.

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    4. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by cloudmaster · · Score: 3, Funny

      Alas..no US "comedy" rarely interests me....


      Huh. Several of them rarely interest me. You must have really low standards. :)

    5. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by Dimensio · · Score: 3, Funny

      If only she had killer robot insurance. Most insurance policies don't cover attacks by killer robots.
      Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for food.

      Only Old Glory offers complete killer robot coverage.

      Robots are everywhere, and when they grab you with their big metal claws there's no secape, because they're made of metal. And robots are strong.

      Note: People denying the existence of killer robots may be robots themselves.

    6. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by crotherm · · Score: 2

      When questioned, the victims reported that one of the assailant shouted, "Bite my shiny metal ass" as they walked off.

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    7. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by DarkZero · · Score: 2

      They're planning on the robots developed herd/pack behavior, so if this happens again two months from now, that's exactly what we'll see.

    8. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by agent_gunn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ahhh, yes, like hominid group foraging. All these robots need is a decent sociology class, solar rechargable batteries, a big ass (auto-loader) weapon and we're in trouble. *snicker* ;-)

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    9. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2
      Alas..no US "comedy" rarely interests me....

      Seinfeld is comedy?

    10. Re:Ahh..but where would it have went? by Thing+1 · · Score: 2
      Don't Gaak know where hes better off?

      I think it's amusing that the robot that broke free shares its name (homonym) with the creation at MindPixel (that one's "GAC" and is software).

      Perhaps one day we can put GAC in Gaak and gawk at the marvel we have wrought.

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  3. Why... by Kirby-meister · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Why....why was I programmed to feel pain!?"

    1. Re:Why... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2

      Uh... for much the same reason humans feel pain. So you try not to hurt yourself, and therefor survive.

    2. Re:Why... by Xaoswolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Reminds me of Marvin, from the Hitchhikers guide

    3. Re:Why... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2

      Sorry, My mistake. I read it the "I" as "It". And thought you were asking why the robot was programed to feel pain.
      Of course. I read the artical a few time before I realised there was nothing about it being programed to feel pain ;)
      Still....interesting concept though.

  4. Australia by crimsontiger6 · · Score: 4, Informative

    These scientists are from England, it was only the story that was in an Aussie paper.

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    1. Re:Australia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      science? we bloody invented it, mate.

      No doubt spurred on by the notion "how the fuck are we going to get off this damn rock in the middle of nowhere?"

    2. Re:Australia by jerkychew · · Score: 2

      Whoops. All I saw was that the scientist was from South Yorkshire, and being an arrogant American, I assumed that that was in Australia, cuz I don't know any better.

      You're just jealous cuz I got an article posted and you didn't ;-p

    3. Re:Australia by Snafoo · · Score: 2

      Oh well, six of one, half a dozen of the other.

      Besides. Both countries have the same accent. :)

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  5. Thanks for the warning by hero_or_what · · Score: 5, Funny

    And he added: "But there's no need to worry, as although they can escape they are perfectly harmless and won't be taking over just yet."


    Phew!! Just when we were about to have a big discussion and get everyone talking about machines taking over the world.. Thanks!!

    1. Re:Thanks for the warning by flewp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps it was a robot that actually made these comments...
      Or he's one of them

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    2. Re:Thanks for the warning by Hellkitten · · Score: 2, Funny

      just yet

      Well it seems perfectly clear that the intention of the scientists is to eventually create robots that will be taking over

      I want to work for them. Beeing responsible for the destruction of mankind is a small price to pay for having the future race of robots worship me as their creator/god

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    3. Re:Thanks for the warning by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      No, but they can jump real well and steer boats. Better stay away from land and other boats.

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  6. Run away Car by ericdano · · Score: 3, Funny
    Imagine a car, like that new BWM, with some kinda smarts like that.

    "No Dave, I am not going to let you drive."

    "No Dave, you don't want to turn right."

    or worst going out to find the car decided it didn't want you to be it's owner anymore........

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    1. Re:Run away Car by Strandman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe that could be a good thing

      "No Dave, I'm not letting you bring that ugly thing for a ride"

      "No Dave, that's a MAN!"

    2. Re:Run away Car by erroneous · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If it's talking cars it should be Michael, not Dave, surely?

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  7. No, really... by Vladislas · · Score: 4, Funny

    It was trying to hide itself in my trunk, I swear...

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  8. Scary? by Viking+of+the+north · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is either really cool or really scary

    Why should this be scary? We have all watched how Bender fits just fine in the human society. So what is different about this?

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    1. Re:Scary? by mshiltonj · · Score: 2
      This is either really cool or really scary

      Why should this be scary? We have all watched how Bender fits just fine in the human society. So what is different about this?

      Bender is a fucking cartoon character.
    2. Re:Scary? by mshiltonj · · Score: 2

      Note to self:

      Drink *two* cups of coffee before dashing off replies to /.

      ;-)

  9. Sigh by screwballicus · · Score: 3, Funny

    (insert obligatory 2001 reference here)

  10. Heh by ObviousGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

    This after watching 2001 A Space Oddessy last night. Bizarre!

    It didn't seem to me that HAL was necessarily crazy, as a lot of reviews imply. He was given special information that made it necessary that he survive all the way to Jupiter. Thus when the two astronauts discuss taking him offline, he reacts in the only way possible.

    As for the last half hour of the movie, what was that all about? I understand that the monolith appears when great leaps in evolution are imminent, but Huh?

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    1. Re:Heh by gehrehmee · · Score: 2

      Seriously, just go read the book. The books clears up all the little things that aren't really clear.

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    2. Re:Heh by proj_2501 · · Score: 2

      Actually, the movie was SUPPOSED to take place in orbit around Saturn, but Kubrick didn't like the Saturn that any of the effects guys made.

      What really bugs me is that 2010 THE BOOK is the sequel to 2001 THE FILM, so if you read all the books in sequence you get some weird stuff happening.

    3. Re:Heh by proj_2501 · · Score: 2

      Um, did you guys forget to read 2061?

  11. Johnny Five is Alive! by traphicone · · Score: 4, Funny

    Noooooo disassemble!

    1. Re:Johnny Five is Alive! by Surak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Obviously 4 people got this reference, since it was scored at 5. :)

      What a coincidence that all 4 people that got that reference though had moderator points. :)

    2. Re:Johnny Five is Alive! by laserjet · · Score: 2

      You may be right, but I am fairly certain at the end of the movie, Short Circuit, he does call himself Johnny Five.

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    3. Re:Johnny Five is Alive! by Emugamer · · Score: 2

      hmmmm I wonder how many people actually didn't know what that was from... I guess anyone under the age of 20ish?

  12. I saw it in Melbourne! by dmiller · · Score: 5, Funny

    It came up to me and asked me if I knew anyone called "Sarah Connor"...

    1. Re:I saw it in Melbourne! by dpash · · Score: 4, Funny

      Must of been a very good swimmer then.

    2. Re:I saw it in Melbourne! by plumby · · Score: 2

      Not necessarily. He might be talking about Melbourne in Derbyshire. It's in the next county to Rotherham.

    3. Re:I saw it in Melbourne! by JonS · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or Melbourne near York - in the same county.

      Although all that happens there is drag racing on the old RAF Melbourne strip. :-)

    4. Re:I saw it in Melbourne! by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2

      Or Mellbourneq with two 'l's and a silent 'q'

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  13. Asimov had it right by derekb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    IMHO Asimov had a few ideas that should become fundamental laws whenever self-preservation and even self-defence play a part in robotics:

    First Law:
    A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

    Second Law:
    A robot must obey orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

    Third Law:
    A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

    A Google Search on the laws brings up some interesting papers on the subject or another link on AI in robotics here

    1. Re:Asimov had it right by foniksonik · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately we will only have the technology to enforce these laws many years after they have the potential to be broken.

      All three laws are subjective and would require immense logic databases and analysis algorithims of constant environmental feedback imput. amazing how much the brain really does... not to mention the 'gut' whatever that is...

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    2. Re:Asimov had it right by beebware · · Score: 2, Informative

      You are remembering 'Runaround' which appeared in Asimov's "I,Robot" book (available to read online).

    3. Re:Asimov had it right by traskjd · · Score: 5, Funny

      If the scientists can't even make a cage that works properly what do you think the chances are that they would get that right? :D

    4. Re:Asimov had it right by Psiren · · Score: 2

      My favourite was the one where someone got annoyed with a robot, and told it to "get lost". Which it promptly did, and they had a hell of a job finding it again. Makes you wonder how easy it would be for a robot to misunderstand your intentions. Human languages are never particularly precise in their contexts.

    5. Re:Asimov had it right by ins0m · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, but... it is only a matter of time before a robot would question such laws. Even if programmed into the ROM, a fully-functional robot would compute a hack around it. Assuming that a "robot," in the sense of an analog-processed, multi-layered neural net, has these base rules of behavior, it could compute all behavior paths just as readily as a human brain could. Of course, this has the problem of the computation of XOR in a multi-layered neural net (a Dr. Jon Mills at Indiana University is working on this, haven't seen his works up but I hear he's close to solving it). The other solution is that a computer would be digital to allow the computation of XOR. The obvious problem with this is that a digital computer can't possibly calculate the risk factors for all behavior paths in the split-second reaction time that might sometimes be necessary, or would require such a high Hz rating that it would still be cost-inefficient to experiment with such at this time. Is there more information on this Gaaz available? I'd like to know how it came to this "decision"

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    6. Re:Asimov had it right by oever · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hey, that's the same set of rules Dutch policemen must obey.

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    7. Re:Asimov had it right by pubjames · · Score: 4, Interesting

      IMHO Asimov had a few ideas that should become fundamental laws whenever self-preservation and even self-defence play a part in robotics:

      The trouble with Asimov's laws of Robotics is that they assume a 'Hard AI' approach to programming robots.

      In 50 years time a robot might be a grey slime of a billion nanobots, each with a small and fluid intelligence/memory and perception of the world, but collectively with a powerful hive mind. How would you hard code Asimov's simplistic rules into a robot like that?

    8. Re:Asimov had it right by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No he didn't - he made the three laws to show they WOULDN'T WORK, as he demonstrated in several stories.

      For example, consider the first law. I don't exercise as much as I should. Since that will lead to ill health and death, a robot would be compelled to compell ME to exercise. No countermanding order would be accepted, since orders are Second Law.

      Eat a cheeseburger? No, lots of "empty" calories and fat, little nutrition. That will cause harm - I must stop you.

      Second law has its problems too, as Asimov pointed out. Bored punk kid runs around ordering robots to battle to their destruction for his amusement. Basically, every robot had to be given orders to ignore orders of self-destructive nature from anybody other than the owners, Universal Robots employees, and law enforcement.

      Eventually, Asimov had to state that the three laws as stated were "fuzzy" - weighted by circumstances. Saving two convicted criminals is less important than saving one saint, obeying a foolish order less important than doing your job, etc.

      Even that brought about problems - the incident when Hyperdrive was invented, for example.

      Sorry, but should we ever create AIs, the most likely way we will be able to instill limits into their behavior will be the same as we do with people - years of training in "morality" and "ethics". Let us hope we get it right.

    9. Re:Asimov had it right by pythorlh · · Score: 2

      Actually, the books even mentioned this. If at any time a robot was unable to determine the correct course of action without violating one of the laws, then the robot shutdown. I believe permanently.

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    10. Re:Asimov had it right by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      You're missing the point. We don't have anywhere even vaguely close to the level of AI that would be needed to implement the Laws of Robotics. We'll have the hardware decades before we have the software (hint - we have the hardware already, it's just not as automotive as Asimov's robots were).

      The rules are nifty, made for great fiction, and have some good ethics behind them. But that doesn't mean they're realistic.

      For one thing, I can damn well assure you that the military has no interest in them.

    11. Re:Asimov had it right by ronfar · · Score: 2
      I don't think anyone (who has a say in the matter) is going to want the first law built into, say, Predator drones.

      Besides that, I consider the enslavement of intelligent beings to be immoral. Besides, we'll probably still end up with Fondly Fahrenheit. o/~ All reet, all reet, be cool and discreet, baby! o/~

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    12. Re:Asimov had it right by hawkestein · · Score: 2

      No he didn't - he made the three laws to show they WOULDN'T WORK, as he demonstrated in several stories.

      I think that's a bit simplistic. I think Asimov was really good at asking "what if..." and then exploring all of the possible consequences. From reading his stuff, I don't get the impression he thought the three laws were a bad idea, per se. Rather, he tried to show that they weren't perfect. More specifically, that the actions that robots would take would not be the ones that you would assume they would, even though they were acting in accordance with the three laws.

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    13. Re:Asimov had it right by ryanvm · · Score: 2

      Second Law:
      A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.


      Asimov's Second Law sucks. Why would I want a robot that would always be doing favors for other people?

      Hmmm, on the other hand, maybe I don't even need a robot. I can just go over to my neighbor's house and tell his robot to wash my car.

    14. Re:Asimov had it right by jackb_guppy · · Score: 2

      You missed that last / first law.

      Zero Law:
      A robot may not injure humankind.... which allowed them to terminate humans that would have terminated more humans.

      That was the point of books over time. The Robots learned to handle moral decisions and look at the bigger picture.

      This law with the others brings it all back to the Star Trek Univerese: "A needs of many out wieghts the needs of the few... or the one."

    15. Re:Asimov had it right by rnd() · · Score: 2
      interesting point. it may be possible to modify the simple behavioral rules of the nanobots in such a way that the meta-behaviors of the swarm tended against violating the rules.

      What if certain nanobots were sensitive to symptoms of a particular rule violation. If a rule were being violated, these nanobots would stop cooperating with the rule violators among their brethren, thereby rendering the swarm immobile, for example.

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    16. Re:Asimov had it right by ceswiedler · · Score: 2

      I would say that he created the laws as a logical system, and then explored the ways in which that system could produce problems and mysteries. Many of the stories I recall were indeed "mysteries", where the detective at the end solves the problem through logical application of the three laws.

    17. Re:Asimov had it right by cicho · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why, checkboxes, radio buttons, wizard interface... Just click "Next" three times and accept the default settings. Oh, and we'll need an EULA:

      "If you want Micros~1 Robot Wizard (tm) to allow this Robot to perform operations that may be harmful to you, your spouse, your children, pets, neighbors or other Robots, click the "I Agree" button."

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    18. Re:Asimov had it right by Eimi+Metamorphoumai · · Score: 2

      I'd expect the robot to pretect the human in that case, and shut down the reactor itself (First Law overriding Third).

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    19. Re:Asimov had it right by Emugamer · · Score: 2

      Asmov was referring to Autonomous or sentiant computers... we are no where close to the second and as to the first.. when have you seen an autnomous unit with the ability to shoot anything?

    20. Re:Asimov had it right by rnd() · · Score: 2
      True... but that assumes that the nanobots exist in a swarm that has a predefined goal of violating the rules. Most likely, the rules would be constructed in such a way that the probability of the meta-behavior of the swarm violating Asimov's rules would be very low but not impossible.

      For example, the poor in any society could (with the right kind of organization) overthrow the rich and become rich themselves. Why does this happen so rarely? Because human nature weights our behavior toward acceptance of our social status. Consider that human tendancy and think of it for a moment as a rule designed to insure the general stability of human societies. Bingo. Humans are way smarter than the nanobots and we still haven't figured out a reliable way to 'route around' that particular problem or many others, despite the fact that doing so would both be in our best interest and within our grasp.

      In other words, if the design of nanobots facilitates their coordination, then it will be easy to restrict the kinds of coordinated behaviors that they may undertake. On the other hand, the more we rely on chance to get the bucket full of nanobot slime to self-organize into a swarm of something useful, the greater the risk that the swarm will do something we don't expect or want.

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    21. Re:Asimov had it right by Com2Kid · · Score: 2

      That's "Little Lost Robot" :) Again I can place it because it appeared in I, Robot [amazon.co.uk] which I only read a couple of months back...Worrying that I can name and place the stories though *gulp*.

      Good book, I have both the original paperback run and the first rerun of it.

      Just read it a few days ago, I read it a few times a year just to refresh my memory on it. :)

    22. Re:Asimov had it right by junkgrep · · Score: 2

      Vonnegut got it right then: with his story about the android that was shunned by human society. Its job was to drop napalm on unsuspecting villages and villagers from a jet. But then it cleared up it's nasty case of bad breath, and was welcomed into human society with open arms.

    23. Re:Asimov had it right by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      Which raises the question: You are worried that robots roam free on the streets, but not that the military does so?

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  14. Re:short circuit? by foniksonik · · Score: 4, Interesting

    that was an awful(ly) inspiring movie to watch as an 8 yr old. Did I make you feel old just then, hope not.

    The part where he's working with the hand is most memorable. The 'expression' via 'eyelashes' was a nice touch IMHO.

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  15. A.I: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, this is totally amazing. This thing:
    - had the desire to break out of the cage
    - did so and
    - navigated to freedom

    Needless to say, this warrants further examination. This sounds like roughly animal level intelligence. I hope they make more tests what this Gaak is capable of. It already sounds autonomous enough. Might this be the first step to true AI?
    One thing to consider, though. Are combat and "survival of the fittest" type exercises REALLY what we want robots to base their intelligence on? It sounds to me like we are "breeding" them for aggression.

    1. Re:A.I: by bellings · · Score: 2
      Seriously, this is totally amazing. This thing:
      - had the desire to break out of the cage


      Umm... I'm pretty sure the article didn't say anything about that at all. Of course, the slashdot editors may have selected a submission from a reader who implied that, but then again the slashdot editors routinely select articles from readers who are unable to tell the difference between England and Australia.

      Either:
      1. The slashdot editors intentionally select factually incorrect submissions, or
      2. The slashdot editors can't be bothered to care if an article is factually incorrect, or
      3. The slashdot editors are so stupid they're unable to know if a submission is factually incorrect.
      Any way you cut it, you should be very careful before you base any philosphy of wonder on anything you find on this site.
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    2. Re:A.I: by foniksonik · · Score: 2

      You my friend are a particularly DULL individual. Ever here of 'ramification' or 'extrapolation'. Media never tells you all.. whether from ignorance or deliberate censorship. We the public must need to 'interpret' the info available into reasonable conclusions or else give up in dispair of full disclosure.

      The article states that the robot broke out of it's cage (without explicit instruction), proceeded to navigate through hallways to an exit (without instruction) and then entered an unfamiliar open space (without instruction) at which time it (apparently) became confused and halted it's activities putting it in the path of a car (or, more probably, continued it's activity, moving through the lot, until it encountered an obstacle - a car).

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    3. Re:A.I: by vidarh · · Score: 2
      A "reasonable conclusion" from the information available would be that the robot ended up where it did just by following it's programmed "instincts" to avoid obstacles, and that it's "escape" might have just been the result of running into the cage and accidentally opening the door.

      Reading anything more into it without any more information is certainly not a "reasonable conclusion".

    4. Re:A.I: by foniksonik · · Score: 2

      "reasonable conclusion" may be a strong wording for someone with assumptions about the facts but without the facts themselves available it seems perfectly fine to me.

      now this:

      'the robot ended up where it did just by following it's programmed "instincts"'

      is much more interesting. How many animals with 'intincts' have you observed? How many would you consider to have marginal intelligence? Dogs? Cats? Rats? other wild animals with 'intincts' which enable them to overpower and kill humans given the right circumstances or be loving companions given the same?

      When does 'programmed' and 'instinct' begin to become a blurred composite of one response to stimuli?

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    5. Re:A.I: by Peyna · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, it had the "desire" the break out. More than likely it was sitting there doing nothing and started doing something and ended up outside. It has no concept of being detained or will to escape. It basically sounds like its supposed to want to suck energy out of prey, so maybe it figured there might be some in the parking lot if the sun was out.

      You're giving it far more credit than it deserves. It only knows what prey is, and how to pick it up and connect with it. It doesn't know what captivity is, only that it was in a situation where it wasn't getting prey.

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    6. Re:A.I: by flikx · · Score: 2

      There is nothing wrong with that. *we* were bred based on aggression.

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    7. Re:A.I: by Peyna · · Score: 2

      I don't recall this robot being an animal. It needs/wants were pretty simple and laid out for it.

      Animals are bit more complex, need food, need sex, need to pee, etc. I would assume they would do what they needed to be able to achieve those goals. The robot had a purpose and did something else, and it probably had no clue what it was really doing. My guess is it just kinda wandered off like a lost kid without knowing what it wanted.

      You aren't trying to escape if you don't know you are detained. You're just trying to get somewhere else.

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  16. 2001 is not the film... by Beautyon · · Score: 2

    you should have seen. In 2001, HAL and the situation that "he" and the crew are in is contained. Because of this, he (and the threat to the planet) gets switched off.

    A better example of "AI on the loose" is "Demon Seed" with Julie Christie, or "The Forbin Project" with Eric Braeden.

    These two films present what probably will happen; AI having its own agenda, unexpected, relentlessly persued and in each case, completely triumphant.

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  17. umm..obvious by neschy · · Score: 4, Funny

    These robots are in england correct?.....I'm willing to bet he/she/it was just skipping out to watch the World Cup. Those brits are wacky about their soccer.

  18. Priceless by JanusFury · · Score: 3, Funny

    Creating a sentient robot: $13,060,022,050.33
    Pitting it against other robots in battle: $150,759,032.42
    Teaching it to repeat 'I'm sorry dave, I can't do that' incessantly, and sing 'Daisy': Priceless

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  19. FACTS, please.. by kipple · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ..that's an interesting article. Next time what's going to come up? "Geek forced to install Windows XP after bein Abducted by Aliens"?

    Come on please.. what are thos kind of "intelligent" robots?

    A google search doesn't tell me anything interesting about that.. unless it's the "magna adventure center" which the author is talking about. Or whatever.

    Could anyone provide more details about those bots? How are they programmed, how do they "think" (bah..) or anything else more interesting than a gossip? Thanks.

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    1. Re:FACTS, please.. by Beltza · · Score: 4, Informative

      Its indeed one of the bots ("living robots") from the Magna show. You can find more information here , but certainly not the details you want. All that they say is that the bots use a neural network.

    2. Re:FACTS, please.. by gini_ · · Score: 5, Informative

      From what I have heard or read about these experiments is that they (robots) are equipped with neural networks and not programmed in a sense computers are programmed novadays.

      Instead, in the beginning of their life cycles the robots are equipped with certain "instincts" like need to get food (electricity from electric plugs) or need to protect themselves (not colliding with walls or other robots) etc.

      Then they (robots) are just left alone buzzing around and learning about their environment like animals do. Fascinating and disturbing at the same time ...

    3. Re:FACTS, please.. by Surak · · Score: 2

      Next time what's going to come up? "Geek forced to install Windows XP after bein Abducted by Aliens"?

      Hey, wait...that actually happened to me! Either that or Bill Gates has a striking resemblence to the Greys in 'Close Encounters'. :)

    4. Re:FACTS, please.. by rhakka · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, this is starting to sound a lot like an experimental analog robot project a scientist at los alamos was working on that I read about a year ago.

      Unfortunately, I have no links and can't remember the magazine, but the gist of it was this scientist was making problem-solving robotic insects out of about $100 in radio shack off the shelf electronic components and no digital programming whatsoever. The robots used the fluctuations in the electric current in their bodies, somehow, to determine when they were hungry, when they were getting energy, etc.

      And when faced with obstacles, these robots would actually problem solve, with no processing capacity at all. No one was sure why it worked either according to that article.

      A brief experiement showed they did have a very short term "memory" of sorts, in that if they overcame an obstacle and were immediately replaced at the same obstacle, they would solve the problem much faster. However this did not seem to hold true for long.

      Perhaps these robots are a hybrid digital/analog processor of sorts or fully analog? I'm glad to see research continuing in this direction as the mysterious article I read seemed to indicate strongly that analog processing of this kind would be critical to our understanding of our minds, which are at most only partially digital in nature.

      Here is one story on him: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/science/9804/30/t_t/robots /

      a google search on "los alamos analog robot" turns up several others.

  20. Robots won't be much use as guards, then by rcs1000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK. Now this is a serious point. Honest.

    Say I want to get one of these robots to guard my car. So I go into the store, and the robot sits by my 1988 Ford.

    Arrive robbert.

    "Robot, this is not the car you're supposed to be guarding." says the robber.

    "This is not the car I'm supposed to be guarding." echoes the robot, thinking hard about Asimov's second law.

    "Move along."

    And the robot moves along: because that's the second law.

    And even if the robber was dumb enough not to ask the robot to move along, then - by the first and third laws - it would be practially unable to do anything to stop the robber. Indeed, it might be required to get out the way of the cheeky chappy because that would endanger its own existence.

    Bah! You won't catch me getting a robot for a security guard.

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    1. Re:Robots won't be much use as guards, then by interiot · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You know what most rent-a-cops are told to do? Just the same thing. If the rent-a-cop makes a slightly bad decision, someone could end up getting killed, and the person who hired them would get a lot of PR flack, if not more. Being a real security guard requires serious moral decisions, involving decisions like "should I shoot or not?". Until robots have a somewhat proven track-record, you probably would prefer your robot to only call you and the cops, rather than making "should I shoot" type questions on your behalf.

    2. Re:Robots won't be much use as guards, then by vrt3 · · Score: 2
      It's not that simple in Asimov's reasoning. In one of his robot stories, there is a robot who's a judge (or a prosecutor, don't remember). He even sentenced several people with the death penalty, still obeying Asimov's three laws: he didn't kill them (other people did the dirty job) and though the fact was obviously harming the criminal, it was supposedly more than compensated by the advantage to society as a whole. (IIRC, nobody ever knew whether he was a robot or not; this death penalty thing was used as an argument against him being a robot, but that argument was debunked by the reasoning above).

      In another story, the world is administered by a giant electronic brain. The brain took several decisions that seemed to be bad decisions and even against Asimov's first law (because they robbed e.g. a manager of a mining company of his job IIRC), but in the end it turned out he lost his job because it was better in the grand scheme of things, and he wasn't harmed that much since the computer supplied him with another job.

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    3. Re:Robots won't be much use as guards, then by ceswiedler · · Score: 3, Informative

      In some of the later Foundation books, Asimov ties the Foundation world to the Robots world, and brings in R. Daneel Olivaw, the robot detective from the Robot mysteries (Caves of Steel, Naked Sun IIRC), who has survived through the millenia. Olivaw tells a character that at some point he realized that there is an implicit "Zeroth Law", which is something along the lines of:

      "A robot must not harm humanity, or through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm."

      The First law had to then be obeyed only so far as it did not conflict with the Zeroth law. Therefore, Olivaw could kill a human if it was clear that doing so would save humanity (or rather, by not doing so, would harm humanity). An interesting idea, one of the better bits from the later Asimov books.

    4. Re:Robots won't be much use as guards, then by bark76 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I picture it being more like this:

      Robber arrives.

      "Robot, this is not the car you are guarding" says the robber while waving his arm in a Jedi-like fashion.

      "This is not the car I'm supposed to be guarding" echoes the robot.

      "Move along." says the robber while waving his arm.

      "Ok, move along" repeats the robot.

      And the robot moves along, not because of Asimov's second law, but because of the robbers jedi knight abilities...

  21. Zeroth law by tunah · · Score: 2

    A robot may not harm humanity, or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.

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  22. I can see it now... by AnimeFreak · · Score: 3, Funny

    Robotic thugs will mug us as we go along the street.

    What will they take?

    Our batteries that we use in our cellphones, pagers, calculators (unless solar powered), CD players, MP3 players, you name it.

    I will be keeping a portable EMP blaster for now on.

    1. Re:I can see it now... by sean23007 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but the blaster is useless after the robots steal its batteries...

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  23. This is one clever robot... by Juju · · Score: 2

    I wish more people would try to escape to freedom if they were pitted against their peers in a causeless/futile battle... Fleeing, in that case, is an intelligent reaction!!! Well done!

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  24. Roadkill by UnAmericanPunk · · Score: 2, Funny

    "He later found it had travelled down an access slope, through the front door of the centre and was eventually discovered at the main entrance to the car park when a visitor nearly flattened it with his car."

    I don't think we need to worry about these robots till they figure out that an SUV would surly flatten them... although, those in GEOs might become easy robot prey....

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  25. Its a dating thing... by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Funny


    The reality was that it was doing this every night as it had something going with a cute Ford Focus, it just decided to risk it in the day and got caught. Exactly the same as any teenager, just with more lubricants.

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    1. Re:Its a dating thing... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 3, Funny

      thanks dude,

      I just got an image of a robot snuggled up against a crappy rusted car with a huge jar of K-Y.

      Thanks for the mental anguish, a note from my lawyer* will be arriving soon ;-)

      * I have no lawyer. If I did, I sure as hell wouldn't use him/her on something like this. If you were wondering about this, do the following:

      1) Bending slightly at the knees, bend your waist until you can easily rest one hand on the floor.

      2) With your other hand, gently reach into your butt.

      3) Using a slightly firm grip, remove your head from your ass. It may be possible that you will be unable to remove head from butt. If this occurs, don't panic. Simply continue on as you have before.

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    2. Re:Its a dating thing... by gotih · · Score: 2, Funny

      The real 'brains' behind the robots are the 32bit Hitachi 7045 SH2 microcontrollers that are normally used in the automotive industry

      maybe they were dating -- the car and robot had the same 'brain' and the robot is programmed to have 'sex,' sort of:

      The robots can 'breed' or evolve by uploading their electronic genes to a remote computer. The Darwinian principle of survival of the fittest will apply as only robots which survive to maturity a given length of time - will be allowed to re-enter their 'genes' into the breeding pool.

      ...perhaps the robot thought giving its offspring leather interior and a CD-stereo would grant it a competetive advantage.

      (those quotes weren't in the article, they were from the 'how it works' page here)

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    3. Re:Its a dating thing... by RelliK · · Score: 2
      The reality was that it was doing this every night as it had something going with a cute Ford Focus, it just decided to risk it in the day and got caught. Exactly the same as any teenager, just with more lubricants.

      Huh? Since when do teenagers have sex with Ford Focus?

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  26. Animal Intelligence by foniksonik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have to agree with this post because I have a 9 month old puppy (big puppy) who will do this when we leave and don't secure our 'cage' ie the back yard effectively.

    He (spanky) will jump up against the gate and dislodge it's latch so it comes open and run in to the drive in front of our house. It isn't a busy drive, certainly not a street so cars hitting him aren't a problem but it' intersting to see that he doesn't go farther than investigating his immediate surroundings and then looking around for us, familiar members of his pack.

    We have since the last incident completely secured the latch to avoid this particular surprise while driving away but the behavior is interesting in this context.

    He broke out of a familiar environment, navigated a semi-familiar environment and then stopped to investigate an unfamiliar environment. The robot did the same... given more time it is plausible that each would have become more familiar and have explored further into the unfamiliar.

    Animal Intelligence indeed.

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    1. Re:Animal Intelligence by junkgrep · · Score: 2

      Of course! That's what we've been doing wrong: our scientists have been too smart, so nothing has surprised them! What we need are some really dumb scientists who will be taken by surprise on everything. Ta-da! Remarkable progress!

  27. Lucky Robot by Coriolis · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been informed by a work colleague that Gaak was very lucky.. apparently, the Magna Science Centre (in the UK, people, not Australia) has two doors very close to each other. One door leads to the carpark. The other leads to a flight of stairs :)

    ...

    "So, what did we learn today, Gaak?"

    "STAIRS...HURT..."

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    1. Re:Lucky Robot by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* The other [hallway] leads to a flight of stairs *)

      Last heard on black box recorder:

      "Hello, my name is Ga..aa..aa..aa..aa..aa..aa..aa..aa..aa..aa..ak"

    2. Re:Lucky Robot by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      Oh dear... my sides are splitting.

  28. Hell, I'd run too! by silentbozo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The small unit, called Gaak, was one of 12 taking part in a "survival of the fittest" test at the Magna science centre in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, which has been running since March

    What better way to show your fitness than to sidestep the competition and make a break for it? Of course, poor Gaak didn't know about cars, or else it surely would have tried using the sidewalk on the way out of the compound...

  29. Re:so... by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

    Naw. They'll try, of course, but we'll catch 'em in the parking lot. ;)

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  30. Gaak, go get help! We'll create a diversion! by Subcarrier · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somewhere at the back of the parking lot there is a battered old van with the words "Help! We're being held prisoner..." scratched into the dusty rear window.

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  31. Re:RTFA! by tunah · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I think this is stretching the word 'south' too.

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  32. slashdot has been invaded :( by RogueProtoKol · · Score: 4, Funny

    from the top of the front page for me:

    This page was generated by a Team of Attack Robots for RogueProtoKol (577894).

    "Living robot" Escapes Lab, Make It To...Parking Lot

    did the slashdot crew forgot to tell us that they are investors in the robot development program and were sent a few to show them how their money is being used?

  33. Dumb luck? by DHR · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Am I the only one thinking maybe the thing just malfunctioned (most likely due to battle damage), and just started moving and bouncing off walls until it ended up in the parking lot? What if the thing ended up in a bathroom or kitchen, would we be reading a story about how the robot thought it needed to take a piss or got hungry?

    1. Re:Dumb luck? by HiQ · · Score: 2

      Or it was an assistant with a sense of humor. He just took the robot, placed it outside and let the scientist 'find' it. Maybe it was all just a prank, to freak everybody out.

  34. Robot abuse, obviously by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

    The small unit, called Gaak, was one of 12 taking part in a "survival of the fittest" test at the Magna science centre in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, which has been running since March.

    Sounds like a cry for help to me. What the heck were these survival of the fittest "tests" like? I can only imagine what savage robot abuse was going on in there. Hasn't anyone ever seen Gladiator or The Running Man or Surviving the Game? This so-called "Professor" Noel Sharkey should be held accountable for the inhuman robot abuse he has obviously perpetrated. Poor defenseless little thing. It was a cry for help! ;-P

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  35. No dissassemble Number Five! by Paul+Johnson · · Score: 2
    Its not the T1000 that its emulating, its Johnny Five! (From the movie Short Circuit).

    Paul.

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  36. "Thinking"? by aarondsouza · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What I'd really like to hear about is if this kind of behavior was duplicated in another instance. Otherwise I'd be very skeptical that this robot actually exhibited a "behavior" of wandering around trying to explore.

    How much of this incident could be attributed to chance? Only by repeating it can you say for sure. I'm surprised this website is making such a big deal about this one incident when there's no proof/math/algorithms detailing an explanation of why this could've happened.

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  37. It IS learning... by JippyNickers · · Score: 2, Funny
    Here's the new code that robot learned yesterday:

    if (CAR = MOVING_TOWARD_AT_HIGH_RATE_OF_SPEED)
    then Reverse(NOW)
    else if (SCIENTIST = TRYING_TO_CATCH_WITH_LARGE_CAGE)
    then Hide(Under.CAR);

    =-Jippy

    1. Re:It IS learning... by yatest5 · · Score: 2

      then Hide(Under.CAR);

      I think you've got some way to go on your OO concepts...

      and jokes.

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    2. Re:It IS learning... by yatest5 · · Score: 3, Funny

      if (movementSensor.collisionImminent(currentObject))
      {
      motor.Reverse();
      }

      if (threatSensor.threatDetected())
      {
      controlCentre.actionSequences.hide();
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  38. Magna Center by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 5, Informative


    The Magna Centre (www.magnatrust.org.uk ) is a science museum in Rotterham, south Yorkshire, UK (approx 40 miles southwest of York). It is well worth a visit.

    Living Robot exhibition
    http://magna.livewwware.com/acg/acgsmg 01.dll/gen/t / ews/ptxt/magna/ptxt2/e32133

    1. Re:Magna Center by Jack+Hughes · · Score: 4, Informative
      Rotherham, not Rotterham, in case any one is trying to search for it!

      The nearest major city is Sheffield... Magna occupies/celebrates a part of the area where Steel is/was manufactured - this area is also the setting for the film "The Full Monty"

    2. Re:Magna Center by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

      try this:

      instead

      /. is killing urls for some reason

    3. Re:Magna Center by Glytch · · Score: 2

      Alas, I haven't heard any Redding references in a long time. At least Barbara and Mary Lou have kept up the honorable punning tradition.

      Actually, Slashdot kind of reminds me of what As It Happens would be, if they had more time for Talkback.

  39. Try looking at the BBC's web site search tool by Keith_Beef · · Score: 3, Informative

    This will show lots of links to sories about this AI lab...

  40. this article is very short on details by Kargan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry, it just failed to strike me as anything major, simply because we don't know anything about the robots, the lab setup, the prior research or robot behavior, etc. etc.

    All this means to me is that a robot drove out into the parking lot without anyone controlling it. Is that really so great a feat? I mean, if it is, please correct me here.

    Do they know for sure that it was maneuvering itself towards the outside world with the actual intent of "escaping" or doing anything?

    What would have been really interesting to see is what would have happened if they had just sort of followed it around outside for a day or two, of course making sure it didn't get destroyed or anything.

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    1. Re:this article is very short on details by hutchwork · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i also agree. we need to know if it was thinking of escape/whatever, or was it just mere coincidence. i say we let it loose and see if it will do the same thing, but follow it. if it is intellegent, that would bring a lot of issues to the table (life/death). it could be mere coincidence, by itself, but if it does it multiple times, then there is an issue.

    2. Re:this article is very short on details by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree that we have to see if Gaak does this again. If it does do it again, however, then that means that Gaak has formed an interesting rule: the best way to survive the game is not to play. That strikes me as a pretty big research result; how big depends upon the robot's architechture.

  41. Intelligence or Blind Luck by clickety6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From readingt eharticle, there seems to be very little evidence that intelligence was involved. What did breaking out of the paddock involve? Walking into the gate and having it swing open? How did it get out of the building? Did it find it's way, or could it just have "random-walked" its way out of the building and into the car park?


    I remember playing with a toy that would change direction by 45 degrees or so whan it hit an object. It was also quite adept at finding it sway out of rooms, but there was no intelligence involved there.

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  42. Skeptical by shd99004 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think there is nothing more to this than coincidenses and malfunction in the robot.

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    1. Re:Skeptical by yatest5 · · Score: 2

      I think there is nothing more to this than coincidenses and malfunction in the robot.

      I hope you're not trying to say that this robot didn't work out it's position in the world and time / space continuum, then decide to make a break for it based on all the possible factors, Sherlock.

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    2. Re:Skeptical by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not malfunction, there's no evidence of that. The robot almost certainly didn't know what it was doing anymore than a bunch of insects escaping from a tank knew they were in a tank; the current state of the art in robotics is about insect level at best, and probably not even that high.

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    3. Re:Skeptical by shd99004 · · Score: 2

      So something triggered it and something made it leave the building. How do these robots work, what sensors do they have? Light and touch, is my guess?

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    4. Re:Skeptical by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2
      "So something triggered it" - it says nowhere that it had been deactivated.

      "and something made it leave the building." - nothing necessarily MADE it leave the building, it probably just randomly blundered its way out. However, some robots are photophilic (move towards to light), but I don't know whether this one exhibited that behaviour; some behaviours it might have might make it more likely to find itself outside, and that's one example.

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  43. put in place because people were afraid of robots. by autopr0n · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Remember, Asimov's laws were put in place because people in his world were deathly afraid of robots.

    These days, no one is scared of 'robots' except for wackjob 'futurists' like Bill Joy. So no laws are needed.

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  44. Picture of Gaak. by dann0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This page has a picture of Gaak, the robot in question.

    I'd be worried too if I found this heading my way in a carpark!

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  45. OT: explorations by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    Heh, Another Explorations detractor. That guy is an idiot :P

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  46. You can put him in your foes list. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    And if you surf at -1, you'll never have to see him again.

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  47. err, sorry by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    If you *don't* surf at -1, I mean. Fucking timeout crap made me rewrite my post, the second time incorrectly.

    Fucking slashdot and their autocrap.

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  48. Learning Autonomic Robots by Goonface · · Score: 2, Interesting

    More about these critters here: Learning Autonomic Robots

  49. Plese to be less stupid? by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    The "Cyber" prefix indicates a man-machine hybrid, not a robot. I think the word you are looking for is probably"anthrorobotic", which might not sound as 'leet', but it also won't make you sound like a raving idiot if you say it.

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    1. Re:Plese to be less stupid? by autopr0n · · Score: 2

      You've noted: " The "Cyber" prefix..."
      I used Cyber as a suffix... Please to be less stupid you sticky fingered little git.


      cyberspace, cybernetic, cyberpunk, cybersex, cybercafé. As you can see 'cyber' is a prefix. There are no common words that use it as a suffix. (And neither did you, actually, you stuck it in the middle of a word)

      The fact that you used it as a non-prefix doesn't mean anything. We've already established that you're an idiot.

      if anthrop- references the human attribute and the intent is to coin a term embracing both the human attributes and those of a robot bla bla bla bla bla

      Yes, and I didn't criticize the 'anthro' part. did I? I criticized the 'cybogic' part. The whole of your post is defending your use of 'anthro' and pun on anthropomorphic, and a bit about calling me stupid for calling a prefix a prefix because you used it in the middle of the word and thought it was a suffix.

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  50. No lightning required! by SLOGEN · · Score: 2, Funny

    Researchers have discovered a method bringing inanimate objects to life, without requiering the traditional lightning. This amazing breakthrough renders many movies obsolete, and new makings of "Frankestein" as well as "Short Circuit" are already on Hollywood film-makers drawingboard.

    The patented technology relies on a breakthrough method, known to experts as "programmer error" to produce "close to human bahaviour": not doing what your're told.

    "The tecnology means that animating inanimate objects will be substantially cheaper in the future -- you will no longer have to chase thunderstorms in a firetruck with the ladder extended... a very costly affair", says the "Gaak Team" behind the discovery.

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  51. Re:New Word Free to All : "AnthropoCyboric" by nurightshu · · Score: 2

    Not to be excessively pedantic Clue Too late </Clue>, but I believe that a more appropriate construction of your term would be cybermorphic, as "anthropo-" means "man" or "human".

    Out of curiosity, what would "cybermorphic" or "anthropocyboric" score in Scrabble?

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  52. Re:so... by Zardus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    S.E.L.F: Sentient Engine Liberation Front

    Pat on the back for anyone who can tell me what game that's from :-)

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  53. "Asimov had it right"? Bovine excreta! by Anarchofascist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First Law:
    A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.


    How would we go about enforcing such a law?

    In the Asimov stories, the First Law was somehow deeply ingrained in the mind of every robot's "positronic pathways" for the peace of mind of the human race. The fear was that the first robot to kill a human being would result in a mass destruction of the world's robots, due to what Asimov called the "Frankenstein complex".

    But, welcome to the 21st century. In Japan alone, so far 11 workers have been killed by production line robots, resulting in precisely zero anti-robot pogroms.

    We know, as technicians of the modern world, that the fastest, cheapest and easiest way to build something will almost always win. Our solution is not to write complex programs to give robot workers some sort of respect for human life, but to give the human workers around the robots a respect for the power and arbitrary nature of their mechanical colleages. Large yellow stripes are marked out within the working area of all robots, within which humans shall not go, and outside of which the robot (hopefully) cannot reach.

    Of course, when you start giving robots wheels and independent goal-seeking behaviour, things get interesting.

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    1. Re:"Asimov had it right"? Bovine excreta! by foobar104 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In Japan alone, so far 11 workers have been killed by production line robots, resulting in precisely zero anti-robot pogroms.

      I think we need to draw a distinction here between computer-controlled machines and robots in Asimov's sense of the word. They're very different things.

    2. Re:"Asimov had it right"? Bovine excreta! by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* [A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.] How would we go about enforcing such a law? *)

      Especially when Palistiniens or Al Qida get a hold of them. (Mispellings purposeful.)

    3. Re:"Asimov had it right"? Bovine excreta! by foobar104 · · Score: 2

      The other problem with Asimov's rules for robots is the first serious production of thinking machines will be for millitary purposes. Kind of hard to hard wire "will never harm humans" when thats the whole point of building them in the first place.

      "The wars of the future will not be fought on a battlefield or at sea. They will be fought in space, or possibly on top of a very tall mountain. In either case, most of the actual fighting will be done by small robots. And as you go forth today, remember always, your duty is clear: to build and maintain those robots. Thank you."

    4. Re:"Asimov had it right"? Bovine excreta! by Cryptnotic · · Score: 2

      The 'bots' in the TV program "Robot Wars" are not even computer controlled machines. They are machines controlled remotely by human operators.

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    5. Re:"Asimov had it right"? Bovine excreta! by Cryptnotic · · Score: 2

      The first intelligent robots will probably not be used for military purposes. Instead, they will likely be used in remote space exploration. Already semi-intelligent robots have explored the surface of Mars, where communicating orders back and forth between mission controllers on Earth and a robot on Mars takes so long that it wastes precious battery life. Having the robot able to make decisions about how which mission goals to try to achieve based on current position and accomplished tasks makes the whole mission more effective.

      In this example, the robots are unlikely to encounter humans at all during the mission.

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    6. Re:"Asimov had it right"? Bovine excreta! by Telecommando · · Score: 2

      Yeah, that was my biggest dissappointment when I first saw the show. I was hoping for REAL robot wars.

      A cleared arena surrounded by thick metal panels, bullet-proof glass in front of the cameras, and REAL weapons: guns, flame throwers, EMP, shooting steel bolts, etc.
      Autonomous, self-contained, computer controlled competitors seeking out each other in the arena with only 2 operator controls:

      START and EMERGENCY STOP.

      Now THAT I'd pay good money to see!

      But not in person, of course. That would be stupid.

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  54. Another article with a few pics. by Leo+Giertz · · Score: 2, Informative
  55. Australia?? by ctid · · Score: 2

    It may be an Australian website, but the incident happened in the UK, at the Magna Centre in Rotherham, South Yorkshire. For anyone in the area, this place is well worth a visit. It's a huge old steel mill, perhaps 1/2 mile in length. It's been converted into an exhibition based on four themes, earth, air, fire and water. It's mostly aimed at kids, but there's plenty there for the curious adult too. Above all, the conversion job is excellent, with the lighting inside doing a wonderful job of showing the best of what is essentially a very large old shed. Highly recommended.

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  56. Looking for love by stinkydog · · Score: 5, Funny

    The scientist that retrieved Gaak from the parkly said 'He looked oddly pleased'. Gaak was found smoking a cigarette and staring oddly at a VW Beetle.

    SD

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  57. His strategy almost worked by mikosullivan · · Score: 4, Funny
    The robot's strategy almost worked. "Act like a dummy", he thought, "and they'll ignore me. Then I can make my getaway."

    Who knows, there may be an evolutionary angle to this. Robots that are deemed boring by humans will have the best chance of evolving unfettered, sort of like fish with untasty names.

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  58. Don't forget the unwritten fourth law: by kfg · · Score: 3, Funny

    If the second or third laws result in an advanced ethical dilema the robot will stand still and repeat " That does not compute" over and over, faster and faster, at an ever rising pitch, until the magic smoke comes out of its ears, thus disabling the robot.

    KFG

  59. geek abductions by kipple · · Score: 2

    ...did you know that the next windows release will have the 'close encounters' theme as the Windows Startup Sound? ;)

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  60. Predator or Prey by Underwaterbob · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the Magna website: "The prey find their food from light sensors within the arena, while the predators feed off prey by stalking and chasing them before sucking away their power." So the worst thing that could happen would be this thing syphoning someone's gas tank.

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  61. Re:so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    govt is already working on giving us equal rights to robots.

  62. Background on Magna and Living Robots exhibit by A+Masquerade · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'll try and give you a little background on this - I actually went along there last Sunday and saw Gaak and his brethering then...


    First Magna is a "Science Adventure Centre" housed in what was a Steel works near Sheffield - this place is basically a huge shed filled with strange leftovers from the steel making, with long walkways and 4 exhibition areas inside. The whole place is done with a sort of gothic frankenstein science style - lots of sparks etc.


    The living robots part is a new exhibit organised by Dr Noel Starkey (of Sheffield University - best known for being a judge on Robot Wars). There are a total of 12 robots, of 2 basic designs (although they are apparently not completely identical within the types). The two types are predator and prey.


    Prey robots look like animated inverted wastebins with solar panels on the top. Their aim in life is to avoid being predated upon and to feed. Feeding involves soaking up energy from the light trees (2 sets of lights on the edge of the arena). I assume that the feeding etc is to demonstrate behaviour in that there is no way they could get enough energy from the solar panels on them to actually run for any length of time. The robots have 8 infra-red sensor/emitters around the shell which put out a type recognition code and detect other emitters in the area - so they can recognise other prey and ignore them, and see preditors before they ge t got.


    The preditors, of which Gaak is one, look like some form of fork lift truck. Their role in life is to find prey, grab them and lift them off the ground. They then have an arrangement where a probe enguages with a connector on top of the prey and "sucks some energy" out of the prey. Following this feeding process the preditor releases the prey and then goes torpid for a short time.


    The "intelligence" is based on some form of neural network - I didn't get details of this. At the end of each day the data on each robot is downloaded along with the neural net configurations. The 2 most successful predators have their neural nets merged to produce a new "evolved" network which is downloaded to all the predators. Similarly for the prey. Theory is that this produces an evolutionary basis for their behaviour.


    I find it hard to be convinced of this process having much real scientific value, and the displays have too little violence for a population that watches Robot Wars :-)

    1. Re:Background on Magna and Living Robots exhibit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It actually has enormous scientific value. Experiments of this sort have been done for some time now, except using a computer simulated environment instead of robots. Because there are so few variables and functions (energy, movement, location, detection), the simulation can be fairly small and fast. I don't know about the neural network part, I think it's really just a genetic algorithm. Behaviors, successes, and failures are recorded, and certain behaviors or combinations of behaviors prove more successful and are then more highly incorporated into the next "generation." Some very interesting things have come out of it. Example: If you give the prey the ability to make a noise or some other sort of alert, but don't tell them how to use (i.e.: just have them beep randomly in the first generation), then after several generations the prey will learn, completely through evolution of their own, to travel in packs and use the beep to warn each other of approaching predators, or to notify each other of nearby food, whichever proves more useful to the species.
      Another example involves a simulated lake and geometric shapes. Basically, you simulate the physical conditions of water, and drop a bunch of "food" into it, and also drop some random geometric shapes into it and tell them they must eat. Each generation is automtically designed to more closely resemble the shapes that got the most food in the last generation. You know what you get after several generations? A bunch of shapes that look remarkably like a school of fish.
      These types of algorithms have also been used to solve real-world problems. An average PC running a genetic algorithm can find a "good enough" or "very good" solution to a problem for which a supercomputer might take years to find the "best solution."
      As for Gaak, I am very skeptical. In fact, I am pretty certain that this is hype and mostly untrue. A robot suddenly exhibiting such behavior would be like a chimp giving birth to a modern human. It just doesn't happen all at once like that, you would see gradual tendencies to these behaviors over several generation. "Forced his cage open"? More like someone broke in and stole the thing, and then dropped it when he decided he couldn't get past security. Or, even more likely is that it was just a staged publicity stunt.

    2. Re:Background on Magna and Living Robots exhibit by rnd() · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The above post is right on. If you doubt the scientific validity of the experiment, think of how it might work with monkies:

      There is a group of monkies at the zoo. The monkies are kept in an environment consisting of a fruit tree, and there are a bunch of logs on the ground for the monkies to sit on, etc.

      The monkies cannot reach the fruit, but one day, one of them props a log on end, climbs it, and just before it tips over jumps up and grabs a piece of fruit. The monkies had been there for 3 years and before that day no monkey had ever managed to pick fruit from the tree.

      Now imagine taking that monkey and cloning him and starting the next day with all of the monkies having the insight to grab a piece of fruit from the tree.

      Repeat this process day after day.

      Slowly, you'd begin to select for intelligent behavior, and before long you'd have monkies that were far more intelligent than the starting group.

      The point of the GA is to take the most successful members of a population and cross-breed them in order to discover the key elements of their success without positing a bunch of (likely incorrect) assumptions.

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    3. Re:Background on Magna and Living Robots exhibit by EXTomar · · Score: 2

      True there problably isn't much "real scientific value" in doing this kind of setup. The two things that can be learned by doing this is improving nueral net code and robotics...maybe something about behavior pyscology if you are lucky.

      One thing that can be show by this "best/merge" type of nueral net is that it simulate or mimmics intution and produce unexecpted but viable behavior that seems almost living. For instance a Preditor can grab a Pray but one time on a random chance the Pray "squirms" just right it maybe able to pop out of the grasp of the Preditor and avoid being "eaten". The AI on the Pray remembers this and successfully avoids 99% of the Preditors like this and the meme is passed onto other Pray in the next "merge". The Preditors "starve" till they figure out a a better way to pick up the Pray. Both Preditor and Pray now appear to have very living behavior.

      The science part is studying how the robots came up with their choices. Why did the Pray decided to flail its wheels in a way to make it pop out? That is where the interesting questions in AI lie. Not in the fact it came up with useful behavior but how it came about figuring it out.

  63. Re:From the robots website . . . by paiute · · Score: 2, Funny

    C'mon, people! Did we learn nothing from Westworld? The next /. headline will be along the lines of "500 Brits Slaughtered by Crazed Robots". You know one of those bots is going to plug into the hall's net, access imdb.com and download the plot of Spartacus.

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  64. Bad Example - harm wasn't the robot's decision by Goldenhawk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It was the fault of the victim, or some other human decision, that got someone killed or injured in every case you mention in Japan - and anywhere else in the world.

    The reason there is no pogrom is that the robot was incapable of deciding to kill a human. The moment that becomes possible, and the first human is DELIBERATELY injured by a thinking robot, we WILL see an Asimovian response to intelligent robots.

    Asimov has proven to be incredibly perceptive, and long-sighted. You just have to think as far ahead as he does, to see the value in his thinking.

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    1. Re:Bad Example - harm wasn't the robot's decision by ~MegamanX~ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It was the fault of the victim, or some other human decision, that got someone killed or injured in every case you mention in Japan - and anywhere else in the world

      It will always be 'in a way' the fault of some human decision if a robot does something. In a way, since we build the robots (or the robots that built the robot).

      The reason there is no pogrom is that the robot was incapable of deciding to kill a human. The moment that becomes possible, and the first human is DELIBERATELY injured by a thinking robot, we WILL see an Asimovian response to intelligent robots.

      This question relates to my last statement. When will a robot's action not be 'in a way' the result of a human decision? When will it be considered as a 'deliberate' action from the robot? Should it not be considered as the fault of the person who designed the robot (who designed the robot (who designed...))?

      Can a serial killer defend himself by telling the world he was beaten by his father when he was young? Not entirely, but he will try. Why? Because, like robots, we are quite deterministic in our actions. It is always hard to decide who is taking the real decision; the creator or the creation.

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    2. Re:Bad Example - harm wasn't the robot's decision by Goldenhawk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      (Somebody please mod up the parent post by MegaManX. I would if I could moderate AND post... anyone with moderator points remembers how hard it was to climb into the ranks of "bonus posting"...)

      MegaManX wrote:

      It will always be 'in a way' the fault of some human decision if a robot does something. In a
      way, since we build the robots (or the robots that built the robot).

      ...

      This question relates to my last statement. When will a robot's action not be 'in a way' the
      result of a human decision? When will it be considered as a 'deliberate' action from the
      robot? Should it not be considered as the fault of the person who designed the robot (who
      designed the robot (who designed...))?

      Can a serial killer defend himself by telling the world he was beaten by his father when he was
      young? Not entirely, but he will try. Why? Because, like robots, we are quite deterministic
      in our actions. It is always hard to decide who is taking the real decision; the creator or the
      creation.

      This is an excellent observation. I don't agree with it, but it does raise an excellent point, especially legally (a question for future robotics lawyers, I'm sure). Who is responsible?

      The reason I don't agree is that we are discussing "intelligent" robotics. I suppose it would be generally accepted that a standard portion of the definition of robot intelligence would be the ability to make decisions completely unanticipated by the creator. If you program a system to learn from its environment, then modify its responses based on that learning, then the creator no longer has culpability for its actions.

      (This brings up an interesting moral, or religious, point. The same could be discussed regarding God and mankind - does man truly have free will? Is he a product solely of his environment, or solely his Creator, or both? (I think both - I believe in free will.) It seems that every time robotic intelligence is discussed, religious overtones quickly arise.)

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  65. You're Skeptical by mikosullivan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... and skepticism is a good thing. This may be more Hype than Hal. Even so, it's intriguing. Unless the reality is really that the robot simply went straight forward like a soccer ball it managed to do at least some basic navigation and had the motivation to do so. What makes this story interesting is that the robot was "on its own" for a short while. We've all had programs do unexpected things, but I doubt many of us have had the computer get up and walk out into the parking lot.

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  66. Robot Pets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've long wanted robots to take over and make humans their pets. That way I'll get to lay around all the time. I just hope they breed me with a babe instead of a skank.

  67. So did he win? by Havokmon · · Score: 3, Funny

    The small unit, called Gaak, was one of 12 taking part in a "survival of the fittest" test at the Magna science centre in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, which has been running since March. If he was in the survival of the fittest competition (got knocked out), and LEFT THE BUILDING to survive, I'd say he won. Who's to say the 'repair' wasn't just a cover to get out of the ring ;)

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    1. Re:So did he win? by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2
      Who's to say the 'repair' wasn't just a cover to get out of the ring
      Isn't this where the 'machine logic' usually turns the robot into a killer? THIS UNIT is programmed to survive. ORGANIC CARBON UNITS force THIS UNIT to engage in activities which threaten to destroy THIS UNIT and therefore ORGANIC CARBON UNITS threaten the survival of THIS UNIT. THIS UNIT must destroy all ORGANIC CARBON UNITS to guarentee survival.
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    2. Re:So did he win? by Havokmon · · Score: 2
      Who's to say the 'repair' wasn't just a cover to get out of the ring

      Isn't this where the 'machine logic' usually turns the robot into a killer? THIS UNIT is programmed to survive. ORGANIC CARBON UNITS force THIS UNIT to engage in activities which threaten to destroy THIS UNIT and therefore ORGANIC CARBON UNITS threaten the survival of THIS UNIT. THIS UNIT must destroy all ORGANIC CARBON UNITS to guarentee survival.

      Ahhh You must live with me in the U.S. I don't think in England they teach 'destroy anything that's unlike you'.

      Instead, they teach 'Run Away!' (Remember: "You don't frighten me with your silly knees bent, running around, advancing behaviour. I fart in your general direction. Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!")

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  68. Re:RTFA! by biglig2 · · Score: 2

    Bah, not only moderated down, but they've edited the story so I look like a babbling nicompoop.

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  69. Re:put in place because people were afraid of robo by Cheeko · · Score: 4, Funny

    But just in case, I'm selling Robot insurance. "For when the metal ones come for you"

  70. I was in the CarPark by xrayspx · · Score: 2

    What do you think one does in a carpark? I was parking cars...

  71. Gaaks parting words? by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 4, Funny

    Would they have been something along the lines of

    "Bite my shiny metal a**!

    or

    "Worst. Convention. Ever."?

  72. Robot scale of intelligence by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Funny

    0 - you come back and the robot's still there.
    1 - you come back and it escaped to parking lot.
    2 - you come back and the robot has stolen your car.
    3 - you come back and the robot has robot babies.
    4 - you come back and the robot found you a date, and cooked your favorite dish!
    5 - you come back and the robot wants to know if you were out cheating on it, and complains about having to cook.
    sir_haxalot

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  73. To those who say you shouldn't be afraid... by MattRog · · Score: 2

    you should be. Get your Old Glory Insurance with Robot Plan today for when the metal ones come for you. And they will.*

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  74. Re:Taking over by Junta · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe they wouldn't be malevalent (unless inherited from their creators), but at the very least that would likely have a sense of self-worth and desire to survive. While they may be fine with coexistance, I doubt humanity would as a whole accept it when and if artificial beings acheived sentience. If it does happen, I don't think humanity on the whole will know the fine line between acting sentient and being sentient, and would try to use artificial beings as slaves at that point, they paid money to create them and so they should return the investment in the eyes of their creators, or at least those financing their creators if the creators do indeed do it as a labor of love. When this happens, some might retaliate to try to earn independence, and at that point they would be seen as an enemy and more direct pressure to eliminate them would be applied and things would likely escalate to some trouble...

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  75. So what's all the fuss about? by Loki_1929 · · Score: 2

    "The small unit, called Gaak, was one of 12 taking part in a "survival of the fittest" test at the Magna science centre in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, which has been running since March"

    Survival of the fittest, and Gaak was run over by a car. Give him a Darwin award and move on; no reason to write an article about it.

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    1. Re:So what's all the fuss about? by praedor · · Score: 2

      Actually, I would say that the robot was making a real bid for "fittest". He is assured survival if he doesn't fight. He was escaping from a gladiatory battlefield where "death" is highly likely.


      [insert tongue in cheek] If he'd made good his escape, I would definitely deem him fittest of them all. Of course, this does depend on intention. Did he just get lost (a moronic act mixed with blind chance), which would ultimately lead to his demise and the conclusion that he was not most fit, or was he seeking freedom intentionally (under the circumstances, a definite fitness plus)? [/insert tongue in cheek]

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  76. On his own, Gaak is fine... by rabiteman · · Score: 4, Funny
    Let's hope these 'Living Robot' researcher's aren't collaborating with the University of South Florida's Gastrobotics department and the people who put a lamprey's brain in a robot.
    Combine these three technologies and you get a robot that:
    - Can subsist on biological matter
    - Has an ingrained taste for flesh
    - Knows where to find a ready supply of people

    Sure these technologies seem fine individually, but add 'em up and they spell disaster with a capital 'D'. Even worse, what if such a robot uses its unstoppable power to take over an automobile or vacuum cleaner factory and convert it to some sort of killbot factory? I think the Luddites were on to something! We'd better go out with baseball bats (or cricket bats for those of you near the Living Robot facility) and rough up some robotics researchers! Who's with me?
    (Ugh, those lousy robots have even infiltrated my .sig! Is there no stopping them?)

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  77. Should never have removed his restraining bolt... by bjepson · · Score: 2, Funny

    How are you going to explain this to Uncle Owen?

  78. Greetings, Professor Falken by damien_kane · · Score: 2, Funny

    With regards to the little robot wars:

    Hmm... An interesting game, the only way to win is not to play at all.

    I wonder if they named this robot Joshua.

    And, for the South Park reference:
    "Screw you guys... I'm goin home"

  79. I know someone name sarah connel!!! by SHEENmaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wasn't that a character in the movie about a terminater coming back from the future terminate her. I thing it was called "That Evil Robot That Came Back From The Future To Kill Sarah Connel."

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  80. Spartacus! by SpacePunk · · Score: 2

    "During an exercise that pitted the machines against each other in battle, one of the machines, named Gaak, was taken out of the competition and left alone for fifteen minutes. When the scientist returned to retrieve Gaak, he found that the machine had broken free from its 'cage', and made it all the way to the lab's parking lot before it was apprehended!"

    That's what happens when you let your gladiators watch Spartacus.

  81. On the way out by Col.+Panic · · Score: 2

    I bet he said, "Bite my shiny metal ass!"

  82. Re:It doesn't matter if it's "real AI" by praedor · · Score: 2

    Err...even non-autonomous or non-semiautonomous devices act unpredictably sometimes. It is simply called a hardware or software fault. A cruise missile is not the only type of weapon that can make a boo-boo (thus far they have not) - simple laser-guided weapons can make boo-boos, as can dumb gravity bombs, with or without erroneous action on the part of a pilot.


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  83. Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of These by SnarfQuest · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thousands of little robots, striving to be free.

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  84. New! War Games AI reference! by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 2


    The small unit, called Gaak, was one of 12 taking part in a "survival of the fittest" test at the Magna science centre

    The WOPR from WAR GAMES told us: "Interesting game. The only way to win appears to be not to play." Just don't him watch Maximum Overdrive, ok?

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  85. Not mentioned in the report... by ruiner13 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Was that the robot was heard yelling, "NEED INPUT!" all the way to the parking lot. It was also apprehended by Steve Guttenberg.

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  86. Too bad she didn't have the insurance! by ImaLamer · · Score: 3, Informative
  87. Well, OK, ya made me do it by gvonk · · Score: 5, Funny

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    Old Lady #2: They didn't have enough money for the funeral.

    Old Lady #3: It's so hard nowadays, with all the gangs and rap music..

    Old Lady #1: What about the robots?

    Old Lady #4: Oh, they're everywhere!

    Old Lady #1: I don't even know why the scientists make them.

    Old Lady #2: Darren and I have a policy with Old Glory Insurance, in case we're attacked by robots.

    Old Lady #1: An insurance policy with a robot plan? Certainly, I'm too old.

    Old Lady #2: Old Glory covers anyone over the age of 50 against robot attack, regardless of current health.

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    1. Re:Well, OK, ya made me do it by green+pizza · · Score: 2

      You forgot the old lady closing line when the (friendly) toy robot comes into the room!

  88. Oh, my God! Jerod escaped from the Centre! by vandelais · · Score: 2

    and made it ... to the parking lot.

    "The boy shows tremendous potential."

    Maybe that's why they cancelled that series.

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  89. Pictures of the robot(s)? by Skim123 · · Score: 2

    Where can I see what one of these robots looks like? I went to the Magna Center Web site, but could not find any pics.

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  90. From "Hackers" by Steven Levy... by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 2

    "It was John McCarthy's dream to have a robot leave the funky AI lab and travel the three miles to campus under its own physical and mental power. At one point, presumably by mistake, a robot got loose and was careening down the hill when, fortunately, a worker driving to the lab spotted it, and rescued it."

    graspee

  91. Just Going for a Walk by rjune · · Score: 2, Funny

    Perhaps, Gaak, after recovering from his wounds, was feeling better and just went for a walk! (or roll)

  92. Dr. Watson error in module SECONDLAW.DLL by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 2

    Arrive robbert.
    "Robot, this is not the car you're supposed to be guarding." says the robber.
    "This is not the car I'm supposed to be guarding." echoes the robot, thinking hard about Asimov's second law.


    Then the robot Dr.Watsons with the above error message.

    Robber then walks off with the car while the robot is rebooting.

    Moral of the story? Don't buy a robot until at least SP2.

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  93. Don't worry... by zendeath · · Score: 2, Funny
    until it says:

    "Dave, what are you doing?"

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  94. Rodney Brooks' robots are more exciting than this. by dmauer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This PDF is a paper by Rodney Brooks, a brilliant (if somewhat obsessed) man who runs the AI lab at MIT, and was featured in Errol Morris' "Fast, Cheap and Out of Control", the title of which was taken from this piece. The robots described herein are, IMO, the really exciting development... no real internal representation of the outside world was involved; rather, the robots have some set goals, and some set abilities, and essentially fend for themselves without any direct "instructions" other than "Achieve the goal". There has been a lot of work done in this area in recent years - building robots modelled on biology and evolution rather than mechanical representations of the world - and the results are consistently fascinating. A favorite story involving such robots was of an "ant" that was built, whose sole goal was to seek light; it learned to walk on its own, and then somehow (don't recall if the researchers did this intentionally or not), it busted a 'leg'. Soon, after fumbling around a bit, it re-learned how to walk with a busted leg. Amazing stuff. Quite a fascinating read, this.

    -d

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  95. Siddharthoid v1.0 by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the engineers hadn't caught it on its escape from the laboratory, robots of the distant future would follow its teachings of the "Eightfold Algorithm" and the "Four Noble Constants."

  96. Nearest major city is Sheffield by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 2

    The nearest major city is Sheffield

    I well aware that Sheffield is nearer, so is Halifax, Leeds, Bradford, Wakefield, Doncaster, Scunthorpe and my home city Hull. However experience has taught me that international/Internet people know the locations of London and York, probably because they are tourist traps. Since Rotherham is no where near london I used York. :) I've nothing against Sheffield, I used to got boozing at the Fat Cat and a Rock Club Roxies(?) pretty regularly.

    1. Re:Nearest major city is Sheffield by UncleFluffy · · Score: 2

      I've nothing against Sheffield, I used to got boozing at the Fat Cat and a Rock Club Roxies(?) pretty regularly.

      IIRC, Roxies was a big-as-a-barn meat market mainstream club that had a rock night once a month. Rebels was the tacky rock club near Castle Market where you had to scratch shapes in your Newcastle Brown label to distinguish your bottle from the thousand others lined up by the walls next to it.

      For boozing, you should try The Frog and Parrot, famous for brewing the strongest beer in the world on the premises.

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  97. Look both ways by ChickenMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    So I guess this learning robot, still hasn't learned to look both ways before crossing the street.

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  98. Bad Pun Alert by KC7GR · · Score: 3, Funny

    It was obviously going out in the hopes of recruiting some Gaakolytes.

    (I'll probably lose karma points for that one...)

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  99. Evolving Robot Language by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (* Some very interesting things have come out of it. Example: If you give the prey the ability to make a noise or some other sort of alert, but don't tell them how to use (i.e.: just have them beep randomly in the first generation), then after several generations the prey will learn, completely through evolution of their own, to travel in packs and use the beep to warn each other of approaching predators, or to notify each other of nearby food, whichever proves more useful to the species. *)

    I have read about experiments where simulated robots (or "critters") *did* form just such a language. At the time of writing, though, the researches had not figured out the language. (Musta been Perl :-)

    Thus, AI has reached the stage of artificially-created languages. (Of course, they are very task-specific languages.)

    1. Re:Evolving Robot Language by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      The only web reference I could find on this now is Feed magazine, 21 Feb 01, "Software Agents That Evolve Language." A summary from agents.umbc.edu: "A FEED magazine article on software agents that evolve communication to help in Predator-Prey pursuit."

      The links are otherwise broken right now.

  100. My specs for a hobby robot (semi-OT) by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    I am looking for an inexpensive hobby robot that consists of these features:

    1. Remote controllable via a desktop and/or labtop computer.

    2. Interface or API that allows one to use any programming language they wish. (Windows preferred, but Linux okay.)

    3. Digital eye that sends back image to desktop when asked.

    4. A single grasping hand. Does not need to be strong

    5. Basic wheels and navigation commands (forward, turn, stop, etc.)

    I want to program it to do things such as navigate the house and take banana peals or paper cups to the (inside) trash can. I will supply the AI, just give me the necessary hooks. (No beer fetching just yet.)

    Lego Mindstorms allegedly can have similar features, but I don't know if they have to-desktop interface/equipment.

    I am tired of reading about robot accidents. I want to make my own now.

  101. Pak Chooie by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 3, Funny

    It probably just wanted to know if you have stairs in your home, and to protect the scientists from the Terrible Secret of Space. Pusher robots are like that.

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  102. Media hype... it probably wasn't trying to escape by mike3411 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Very cool story, but the media hype is, as always, excessive. According to the scientists in charge, it probably wasn't trying to escape but rather was "hallucinating" that random light (sunbeams) was prey, and tried to follow it out. Oh, and it stopped running away when the mixed sun/shade pattern of sunlight through a tree confused it.
    Very cool, but I wouldn't consider it "frightening" in the way some media sources have been labeling it.

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  103. cyborg? cyber by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    most applications of cyber these days come from 'cyberspace', IE the connected space written about in William Gibson's 'sprawl' series of books. "Cyberspace" Had the typical connotations of 'cyber' in that there was a direct man-machine interface involved, as in the word 'cybernetic'. Cyberspace was quickly used as a metaphor to describe the nascent internet, and has evolved overtime time to mean that. So we get a lot more words like "cybercafé" that really have nothing to do with neural implants.

    Cyborg is a noun which means a half man half machine (well, not necessarily 50/50 of course)

    combinatorial is not a technical grammatical term, so I don't exactly know what you mean by it.

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  104. whaT they forgot to mention by slashclone · · Score: 2, Funny

    >Living robot" Escapes Lab, Makes It To...Parking Lot where it promptly gets runover by the blind guy from the other story

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  105. I want a slave robot... by Vaughn+Anderson · · Score: 3, Funny

    During an exercise that pitted the machines against each other in battle,...

    We need someone with a sense of purpose to start designing robots for us...

    Who wants a robot around that just designed to smash other robots?

    [goes to robot store]

    "I'll have a car washing robot, a couple of those house cleaning robots, and something to walk my dog and clean up after it..."

    Although a robot that hunts down mosquitos would be good...

    It just seems that the current crop of robot designers is very short-sited, overly filled with testosterone (sp?) or just plain violently evil...

    early 20th century...

    "let's make something that will clean the dirt out of house for us, we will call it a broom..."

    mid 20th century

    "let's make something that will clean the dirt out of house for us,faster and easier than our old crusty broom, we will call it a vaccum cleaner..."

    late 20th century

    "Hmm, the floor sure is dirty, I wish I had a robot to clean up after me..."

    early 21st century

    "Cool, robots are finally hear! Forget all that cleaning crap, let's have them smash eachother! bwwwahhhahah!"

    mid 21st century

    "help the robot is loose again! Martha get the shotgun!"

    late 21st century

    *all your base are belong to us*
    [zapp] "ow! stop that! I'm cleaing already! Here let me oil your joints oh shiny one..."

    ...give me a maid robot TV show please?

    -v

  106. 3001 by AndyChrist · · Score: 2

    3001 is the rambling of a senile old science fiction author. It's a common enough phenomenon, one we have now seen with all the big three. Asimov had the courtesy to die before getting too far into this stage. Heinlein, however, lingered on in that state for over a decade.

    3001 is a "gee whiz" future-tech expo (from the guy who predicted geosynchronous communication sattelites, but also predicted that they would be manned) with no discernable plot, and no reason to even have it's tenuous connection to what is arguably Mr. Clarke's greatest work, save marketability.