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You've got to admit it's getting better all the time. Gentu writes: "In parallel to the KDE 3.1-alpha release today, OSNews published an interesting article discussing a number of User Interface issues found on KDE 3. The article suggests a number of changes, some small, some pretty drastic. Towards the end of the two-part article, the author discusses the 'integration' problem found in today's X11 desktop environments, and how fixing this issue would bring Unix closer to average Joe's desktop."
Yes, you're allowed to have more than one friend. A NuKeFaN writes: "Following the article titled Are you a Friend of GNOME I wanted to point you out that the most used GPL'd software for the Web, PHP-Nuke, also has a similar page/system for their friends. It's a Club (MandrakeClub like) where you can be a member for a little monthly fee and you can get some extra benefits. You can access the Club area to know more about it. This can be, maybe, another example of how to get some money to fund a free software project, the matter is if we, as users, will support those project's developers this way? I think we can."
Wait, the scam was to take just a few pennies from everyone! MrBlue VT writes "In reference to the previous Slashdot article about the red Swingline Staplers, I click on the add to cart button on the Swingline website, and it pops open an ordering window with a 4 staplers added to the shopping cart. Ok, I think it's a little strange, but change the quantity back to 1, and hit continue to checkout. Next thing I know, I'm looking at an order form with all the text boxes filled out with somebody else's personal information. He's from Bellvue, WA apparently (I'm in Virginia). It also has his credit card number and expiration date!
This has to be the worst security I've ever seen in an online shopping site. The company who apparently provides the online shopping service for Swingline appears to be an outfit called SureSource.
I just wanted to let anyone who happened to order from them know about this. Your credit card info could very well be compromised."
Please fasten your belts. hondo77 submitted this follow-up to this article about next-generation aircraft, writing "Boeing says that their blended-wing aircraft will be ready for test flights in 2006. The article also has a picture of a 3% scale model. See, it doesn't look like the B-2 at all."
But thanks anyhow. flonker writes "Smartfilter no longer lists sourceforge.net! Link for those who want to see for themselves."
Great at stealing them, too. MrDingusMcGee writes "After the recent posting about a study suggesting that video games decrease brain activity, I thought it would be interesting to read the results of another study which has shown that video game players score better on a range of attention tasks (mirror here)done by Shawn Green at the University of Rochester Brain and Cognitive Sciences Department, and that this could possibly rate video game players as better drivers. Worth seeing the other side of the argument and having some validation for those hours of gaming."
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frist psot, yo.
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Fantastic article on the KDE interface!!
I hope the KDE developers will listen!
My dick is ENORMOUS.
Thank you.
You did order the man 4 staplers, right? And then another 4? And then 4 more, just to be nice?
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the buy link is gone, it could be my crap-a-rific ie6 browser though thats making a mistake. i know its bad, no need to tell me.
"Humanize war? You might as talk about humanizing hell!" -- British Admiral Jacky Fisher
it would appear that they took out the online purchase option, opting instead for phone orders through SureSource. Oh well, I really had no need for a fire-engine red stapler anyway :)
you are not the first, check posts below your threshhold dork!
To place an order for the Rio Red Stapler (SKU#: S7074740), Please call SureSource at: 1-800-544-3243.
"They do not preach that their god will rouse them, a little before the Nuts work loose." Kipling, 'The Sons of Martha'
It frightens me that we allow these sort of games to be played by our youth, one of the things that the show focused on. With all of the hate and violence we already have in our society, games like this, Postal, and Doom may be all it takes to trigger a mass murderer. One fellow had a great point: why take the chance when there are already so many great games out there that don't involve going on a killing spree?
I'm not normally one to advocate the government intervening in our lives, but the fact that there were four thirteen year olds on the show playing the game and describing how fun it was to kill the prostitute after her 'sex act' to regain their money frightened me, and makes me think that even though we live in a free society sometimes we need to curb our liberties to guard our safety.
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
-- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822-3.
Can someone explain where the fax-something-unique-to-8889771577 bit comes in? I can't see any connection to any of the stories.
Tarsnap: Online backups for the truly paranoid
These kind of errors are usually caused by the shopping cart using your IP address to identify your session. If you and someone else are both shopping on the site and are going through the same proxy, you will see each others cart.
My guess is that the person who experienced this bug was on a corporate lan with a single gateway IP, maybe cookies were also disabled or screwed up, and SureSource's session tracking code freaked and a session was hijacked.
Slashdot: rejecting tech news in favor of rubber band guns since 1997.
GTA3 is such a GREAT game. I should go play...hmmm...
I ran into this problem a lot when I first started using both GNOME and KDE. I had no idea what half the programs did and there was no clue within the program itself. After a while it became too much of a drag to go find the docs just to read a one paragraph summary of what a given program was. I would hope that in the future developers would start putting a small description of their program within the About menu item.
Prevent email address forgery. Publish SPF records for y
Click here and change the category from "none" to "criminal skills". Don't let your children (or cow-orkers) visit a criminal orgainization!
Whoever stated that signature sizes should be limited to one hundred and twenty characters can just go ahead and kiss my
For every study, there is an equal and opposite study.
"It frightens me that we allow these sort of games to be played by our youth"
So don't allow your kids to play these kinds of games. Duh. The answer to mature subject matter is attentive parenting, not government curbs on basic rights.
This point is so basic... I don't even know why I'm letting you jerk my chain. You can't be serious. I should just mod "-1 troll" and move on.
In the KDE UI article, he suggests only letting root browse the / directory, and everyone else only their home directory. Why? Normal users need to browse the main directory tree, and can be limited from areas they shouldn't be with the mode bits. Dropping that ability would just be plain annoying.
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It's true!
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Although the club is a good idea, I prefer the donation method... or maybe Mr. Burzi could create some PHP-Nuke merchandise such as mugs, t-shirts or caps and sell them on the site. It's nice to have material things to cherish as mementos for the support you gave.
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This article is so true! Even though I don't have my license yet, all that time playing Crazy Taxi will finally pay off!
Truly.
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PS - Can you mod the appearance of replies to articles, or only journal entries?
Proof of the gay-linux conspiracy!
people like you should be permanently banned from the internet. what a jerk. you think you're so clever, but all you are is a stupid little child, crying out for attention, because you are scared, alone, and have a tiny penis.
you know, some of us in the real world have to work. we don't have time to deal with little children playing clever tricks. why don't you just fscking grow up and contribute to society instead of being a childish little moron. that, or jump off a fscking bridge. you are a pollutant in the gene pool.
when i kill you, it will be ruled a justifiable homicide.
-ac
Paying too much attention to what anyone at OSNews says is really bad for your health.
What KDE needs is some funding for UI designers/researchers, not the stupid whining of Eugeina about things she does not understand.
Yes, the article may make some valid points, but they're fucking obvious. Maybe Eugeina can write the code required to make KDE do what she liked...
Hmmmm, what was that old saying: "Actions speak louder than words." Right.
The google search
The top google link
Jeffrey's notes on spammers that he has toll-free numbers listed for.
You're right, I still don't see the connection. Maybe timothy is trying for a fax slashdotting.
I would hope that in the future developers would start putting a small description of their program within the About menu item.
Ummm, have you actually used KDE or are you simply pontificating pointlessly?
Open Konqueror. Go to Help->About Konqueror. In the about box that pops up, on the default 'About' tab, it says: 'Web browser, file manager, ...' which sums up pretty well what Konq does.
Similarly, in the same place in KMail: 'The KDE Email client'.
Or in Kate: 'Kate - KDE Advanced Text Editor'.
Or in KSirc: 'KDE Irc Client'.
Or in Konsole: 'X terminal for use with KDE.'
Pretty much every KDE program has exactly this. You get the about dialog for free when you use the KDE framework, and all the developer has to do is fill in a few blanks.
Not to mention, of course, that the app gets a description in the K Menu as well - for instance, KMail's entry looks like:
KMail (Mail Client)
Perhaps GNOME doesn't do these things, I can't tell you (I haven't had GNOME 1.4 installed for about a year and GNOME 2.0 was installed for a total of about an hour whilst I checked it out and decided I didn't like it) but as far as KDE is concerned, you're dead wrong.
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You win, dude. Keep posting Mr. Goaty, and enjoy this special tribute to Big Ass Spork!!!
I DO IT WRONG!, adapted for the stage by YourMissionForToday. Originally written by Big Ass Spork.
INT. COFFEE HOUSE-NIGHT.
A BEATNIK stands pensively on stage in a smoky coffee house. A WHALIN' SAX and COO-COO BONGOS begin to play, followed by some WAY-HIP VIBES (xylophone).
The Beatnik flicks his cigarette as the sax and vibes trail off, leaving only the bongos.
The Beatnik pauses to light another cigarette.
A DANCER dressed as Queen Amidala approaches the stage. She carries a bucket of hot grits in one hand, and huge rubber penis in the other. Beatnik takes the penis, bends her over and pantomimes rough anal sex.
YODA appears from offstage, carrying a huge green rubber penis. After a brief fight, Yoda impales the Beatnik with his penis, and he dies a messy death covered in blood, spunk, and hot grits.
Afterwards, the cast gets up and takes a bow.
Proof of the gay-linux conspiracy!
Can you please donate to my charity.
I wish we could go back to era before Pong came out. No one ever murdered anyone. Drugs, crime, nothing like that ever existed. It was Utopia. Then that dreaded Pong arrived. Damn you, Nolan Bushnell!
Uhm... NO categories for most of the web sites I visit. Nothing about technology sites, hardware reviews, computer programming...
I half expected to see Tom's Hardware listed as a porn site.
"Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
It's not like your consciousness is involved in doing integral calculus just to drive a car...
It's interesting that the mainstream TV review was all about hysteria.
I heard a reviewer on NPR talk about the game and he was talking about how immersive and fun it was.
Just remember, with Network TV, the Product is YOU.
Anon
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It's a group effort.
Liberate your mind in two clicks or less.
Seriously..not worth explaining...everyone here lately seems so mac-hostile..but it's definitely more logical in OXS....functions are grouped logically w/most often used (generally) on the left, proceeding to the least often used on the right
Umm...not that it is actually important to your point, but unless you are foolish or unlucky, you very rarely get caught by the police in GTA3. You can jack a car right in front of a cop, and he will chase you for about 30 seconds, but then stop if you don't commit any more crimes (like running over pedestrians) along the way. But run over a cop or shoot one, and you better make a quick run to the pay'n'spray to get your car repainted so they cops won't recognize you. The cops seem to get pretty upset about any grenade use too, though molotov cocktails are fine. When you get arrested, you lose some money, your weapons, and your car to bribe your way out. On one mission, a bad cop pays you to kill a stoolie in the witness protection program. All of which I use to illustrate that there are no good guys in GTA3. Its just a game.
So I agree with you, games don't cause social ills. If a parent doesn't want their 13 old playing GTA3, and I wouldn't, then don't let them play. Parents are legally responsible for their 13 year olds.
Don't moderate flamebait as Troll. Know the difference or you will be Meta-moderated.
his could possibly rate video game players as better drivers.
Then I can say for a fact that hardly ANYONE in Memphis plays video games!
Don't mod me, bro'!!!!
about these silly studies is that, they generally don't go into much detail about what type of video games that the people in the study tend to play. Are you telling me that 3 years of playing sports games for 6 hours a day is the same as 3 years of playing 6 hours of actions games a day is the same as 3 years of playing 6 hours of rpgs a day? As a gamer, I somehow think it's rather insulting that it gets overgeneralized as such, into simply, 'video games kill kids brains' and not, boring, repetative tasks that require no brain power turns kids brains into putty. On the other hand, I'd argue that, stratagy (both kinds, tbs and rts), rpg, and puzzle games all help to stimulate problem solving skills in various ways. Ah well, just my 2p
it's not very easy to access the php-nuke site when it' s down: [Mozilla]: The connection was refused when attempting to contact phpnuke.org. Or maybe it's MoThugz's link?
There once was a little man named Frank who needed to get past the lameness filter so that he could post his little one-liner message. And so he told a little story about a man named Frank, to fill the time and space.
$28? No way!
I'll stay with my burgundy Swingline stapler, thank you very much.
Besides, the damn thing does NOT look like the one in "Office Space." It's just...wrong.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
1) Evacuation - people are on average much further from the edge of the plane. This probably isn't too big an issue - people already often have to go quite a way along the airplane to get to the closest exit.
2) Cargo - the constant cross-section of cylindrical planes means you can have standard size cargo pallets that fit anywhere in the plane. This plane has a much less regular shape. Perhaps they have sufficient volume they can afford to waste some.
3) Engine maintenance. The engines on this plane are very high and hard to access from the ground. This is already the case for the number 2 engines of DC-10, MD-11 and L1011's, so there is prior experience in handling this, but it will add to maintenence cost.
4) Manufacturing cost. In a constant cross-section fusilage, many panels, ribs etc. can be used many times over.
5) Difficulty in adjusting size. You can stretch or (rarely) shrink the length of a cylindrical fusilage fairly easily.
Of course, you can accept quite a few negatives in return for a 30% gain in economy.
Finally, there is the risk of the unexpected - revolutionary designs frequently stumble over unexpected problems that take a while to iron out - e.g. Comet (metal fatigue in presurized airframe), high tail planes like the DC 9 ('deep stall'), A320 (human/computer interface problems).
Quattuor res in hoc mundo sanctae sunt: libri, liberi, libertas et liberalitas.
Have some respect, now, and don't be a pirate for the mighty security firm might come get you. Tee-heee! Oh wait, I'm not a news organization and I don't have their permision to download, or did I because they sent it to me when I requested without asking who I was? Did I violate their silly text telling me that the pictures are " for exclusive use by members of the news media. These items may not be downloaded or reproduced by other individuals or organizations without the express permission of SureSource."? Or did they realy mean that I should, "Please click on the desired image to enlarge & download." Don't forget to check out the purple warehouse here, a DEEEEEEEEEEEP DEVILISH LINK. Please click to enlarge! Please click to Download! Wheeee! Wizards of Web! Untitled Document Creators? What awsome d000ds they are! Function MM_JumpMenu seems to come from Dreamweaver, but I doubt that firm wants to take credit. Note, when making simple static pages use a text editor or something simple like Bluefish. When you want to make complicated Flash stuff, please don't. When you use a big giant flash making editor to design simple static pages, sigh, I give up. It was funny at first but the more I look into it the dumber it gets. I'm embarased for them.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
Thanks you mister smartsy pants. Now us s00per h4x0rs will 0wns your site! Please to tell us where you keep your spare house key! Thanxors!
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
Timothy writes of KDE: "You've got to admit it's getting better all the time."
It sure sounds like a compliment, unless you know the next line of the song he's quoting: "It can't get no worse."
So what seems an effusive compliment is actually quite the snide remark!
While reading the KDE article, I did not necessarily agree with every suggestion that the author made, but felt that they were all well supported right up until the end. She was even careful in parts to point out that some flaws were the fault of QT and not KDE, but then she decided to pontificate on the readiness of things like kernel drivers, plug n' play and compilation issues.
I wish I could see one review/reccomendation that did not feel the need to either start off with a complaint about the difficulty of compiling from scratch/downloading sooo many RPM's or trail off in a rant about kernel development and such nonsense.
Oh well, other than that though, an interesting piece.
I just got done looking at the screenshots of KDE 3.0 for the first time (don't know why I didn't look when they first came out, lazyness I guess). Wow! KDE has improved in looks a lot! It looked great before, but know it looks even smoother!
I really do feel sorry for the guy who recently decited to switch back to windows. I mean really, what an exciting time to be involved in Linux! Two years ago when I first got involved in Linux, KDE and GNOME were fairly simple to use, although not as simple as windows. They booth looked ok as well. Boy things have improved a lot! At this rate, Linux could easily surpas windows in ease of use and asthetics.
...interesting if true.
can be a bit thick..
I usually just run a few pages out of the photocopier with the lid open.
>Timothy writes of KDE: "You've got to admit it's getting better all the time."
Microsoft wrote of XP: "It's the best windows yet!"
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
I just wanted to let anyone who happened to order from them know about this. Your credit card info could very well be compromised."
And with Microsoft's history of security, the whole tying of Visa to Passport will be just as secure.
"...Your credit card info could very well be compromised."
Shouldn't that be "I just wanted to let anyone in Bellvue, WA know your credit card information HAS been compromised..."?
Wow so much for Object Oriented Programming!
/b2c/ourproducts/OurProductsStaples.jsp:
S ervice(jrun__ourproducts__OurProductsStaples2ejsp2 3.java:1978)
Excuse me, I... I believe you have my design patterns book... i'll burn down the website.
500 Internal Server Error
null java.lang.NullPointerException at jrun__ourproducts__OurProductsStaples2ejsp23._jsp
at yada yada yada....
You are checking your backups, aren't you?
to the question in your sig: Yes
Must... Increase... Number... In... Sig... To... 1250. Must... post... more... often! :-)
Why not support PostNuke, a fork of PHPNuke that has a much better attitude toward open source development and security.
Bleh!
From reading the site, now that the link to actually purchase online is gone, it does not seem as if this is Swingline's fault as the poster states:
"The company who apparently provides the online shopping service for Swingline appears to be an outfit called SureSource."
Whereas the site clearly states:
" * Please note that you will be purchasing from SureSource, a distributor of Swingline products.
To place an order for the Rio Red Stapler (SKU#: S7074740), Please call SureSource at: 1-800-544-3243."
SureSource is simply a distributor, and as such, Swingline would have about as much control over their e-commerce site as I do over the weather.
One of the comments to the KDE3 article (on the article's page) said this:
/.ers have been raving about. Opinion: Yes, it's very nice. The nicest OS I've ever seen. But then I saw one of THESE and decided that when it comes to lugging a laptop around all day, weight is primary and OS choice is secondary. I'll be ordering one in a month. You have to see the little thing to believe it. It's unbelievably cute!]
"Would it be too much to ask for a Linux distro made specifically for KDE so that it may be optimized for KDE and really integrate KDE into the underlying system?"
Wow! Is this an original thought? I can't believe I never thought of that myself. I'd sure as heck give a such a distro a try on *my* desktop. I know so many folks prefer other desktops, and for good reasons, but if a standardized desktop (forced on the community because the KDE distribution overwhelmingly becomes *the* distro that all non-sysadmins use) that most apps were (in the long run) coded towards; that finally allowed me to cut and paste between apps (like the mac has been able to do for 18 years) would finally enable me to dump windows forever.
[Aside: I finally tracked down an OSX machine to check out the OS that so many
Heh, it has 2600.net listed (crim.skills), but not 2600.com. (they both go to the same place)
At a former employer the firewall blocked 2600.net, but allowed me to browse 2600.com. I wonder if there is a connection?
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unless it bothers to explain the study in detail.
You remember that survey that said 90% of Americans flush the toilet before they stand up, right?
Be sure that anyone spouting knows to check the survey as well as the results.
-- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
I have to check what exactly was tested.
But if the brain is very active, it only
shows that the person is thinking very
hard.
In other words the easier it is for you
to complete a task, the less active is
your brain.
We're sick, you realize. Oh, and anonymous posts aren't counted, so, who knows what the real number is...
In Mac OS X, the quit command is on a separate menu, which has the title of the program being used. For example, Internet Explorer v5.2 has a menu titled Explorer adn the menu items are: About IE, License Agreement, Preferences, Services (accesses OS-level functions like screen shots, etc.), Hide Explorer, Hide Others, Show All, and Quit Explorer. In general, I like the idea of having a separate menu that issues commands to the OS and controls the behavior of the program in relation to other programs and the OS, rather than subsuming these behivors into other menus that are used to issue commands to the program.
I had the same problem with CDNOW. Luckily it was my boss who caught it. I told CDNOW, but never heard back from them.
I used to have a cool sig but people replied to it more than they did my comments.
Can I have your old .sig please?
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I've just read the OSNews article on KDE3.1. The article isn't too bad, though much of the criticisms the author levels are things that I would classify as personal preference and not really fundamental design issues.
/. comment seem well balanced and informed by comparison.
What really surprised me about that article was the user comments afterwards! The level of ignorance and arrogance shown by some of the users of the OSNews site is staggering and makes an average
They seem to have definitely had more than their quota of do-what-*I*-like users.. you know the kind; they never actually contribute to any project, not even so much as a bug report, yet they demand that all the developers should drop what they're doing and make the 'improvements' they suggest, which normally boil down to 'make it like whatever I'm already using, because I'm too lazy to learn something new!'.
I especially like this comment. It's another one of those X-is-crap(for reasons I'm not too sure about)-and-someone-should -do-something-better(though not me, obviously, because I know fuck all about what I'm talking about) comments. I'm not saying that X shouldn't be superceeded some day, but people that keep repeating this should really take the time to find out just how big and powerful(thus complex) X is, and maybe ask themselves why a community of so many good programmers has not replaced it, if it's such a simple and desirable thing to do?
Here's to Linux forging it's own path, and not trying to emulate everything that's already out there.
Incidentally, I'm a FVWM2 user, so I don't support either KDE or Gnome more than the other.
This is not limited to KDE of course, but why must all KDE apps have a name starting with a K? It isn't 'kool', or 'klever', or even 'kuseful'.
Do you ever see Windows applications that are called 'W-whatever'? Why, then, should all X-applications be called 'X-something', or KDE-applications 'K-something'?
Just to be sure, this is not a call for even worse fantasy names than we already have. I am perfectly satisfied with application names that describe the function of the application; for example, 'E-mail' is, as far as I care, the ultimate name for an e-mail application.
"this could possibly rate video game players as better drivers"
Highly dubious. I play video games all the time (and I'm pretty damn good at it too) and I've gotten in 3 accidents and gotten 2 speeding tickets. I'm 17. One of my accidents was running into a bus full of cheerleaders, btw.
I belong to the ______ generation.
They know it isn't simple to replace X, they just think it should be done. And it should be. I agree with what alot of that comment you linked said, but it is alot of repitition of what ALWAYS comes up in such debates. Hell, I switched back to windows too (win98) recently, and I'm really not bothered by it (I used freebsd for two years). It actually doesn't crash as often as I remember it.
Running from the police isn't fun unless:
1) You have the helicopter (three stars).
2) You don't pick up the bribes or go to the paint n' spray.
What's really good is when you get 5 stars and the FBI appears. Those guys are absolutely insane.
>However, the only long term solution is to follow the more enlightened policies of some European countries and ban this sort of trash outright.
Um, isn't that a limit on freedom of speech? The same freedom of speech that you wish to use to express your "alternative" view?
I hate censorship via banning. It's really stupid in my opinion. Rating systems that can be bypassed via parental permission I think are good. The movie rating system I think works alright. I think video game ratings should work in a similar way and the industry should voluntarily self regulate.
Do you ever see Windows applications that are called 'W-whatever'?
No, but there's plenty of Windows software that has a name containing 'Win'.
For example:
WinZip
Winamp
WinAce
WinRAR
WinDVD
CDRWin
WinDoctor
WinDAC
WinPopUp
WinRoute
WinMX
CygWin
These are just a few off the top of my head, there's plenty more. The Mac has (or had, at least) its fair share too, e.g. MacPaint, MacDraw, MacWrite, MacAMP/Macast.
You see, it's just a way of associating the program with the environment where it runs. The fact that KDE app developers love to associate their apps with KDE via the name suggests to me that they generally think very highly of KDE. Call it 'platform patriotism', if you will. End-users like it because it sounds like the app is specifically designed for the environment and follows the same style guidelines and conventions. Never underestimate the power of a name.
Why do you think WinZip became the dominant zip archiver on Windows? I'm pretty sure it wasn't the first, it doesn't come from the people who invented the zip format, it isn't free like some Windows zip archivers (nasty nagware) and I don't think it has the best user interface either (although that's arguable).
In short, it's just good marketing for an app, and that matters as much to free software authors as it does to commercial developers.
You can even order negative amounts of staplers. link
This wouldn't work. I remember these at Trader Joes (what a kick ass store) in Brookline, MA (see also Stah Mah-ket and Stop & Shop). You have to close the door in order to activate the scanner. It spins the can (or bottle) around until it's able to read the UPC. So, stick no workie because you have to shut the door. And even if you got the door shut with your stick in there, you'd be screwed and stickless.
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Umm, Yeah SureSource? We're gonna need you to go ahead and come in on Saturday, m-kay?
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Wow! Running into a bus full of cheerleaders is good for a thousand points!
I do everything the voices in my head tell me to...
Not to mention how most MS apps earn an MS prefix when you talk about them.
How funny! To be fair, they probably didn't build their own site. They probably had someone who specializes in that sort of thing do it for them. I know, I used to work for a consulting company that built sites for Red Hat and ISS (not their current sites, this was a few years ago). Internet consulting co.'s (i.e. web design people) don't always apply the same standards to their own code that their clients do. Personally, I like to make sites I build valid and simple, but not every designer shares those values and some scoff at those who do.
Your fantasies contain the seeds of important concepts.
At the Hy-Vee here in Ames, IA there are no doors, you just slide the can/bottle into a hole in the front of the machine.
Jesus saves and takes half damage.
"the *civillians* in that game don't take sh*t lying down"
Yeah, I think the detail of the NPC behaviors, and its variety, is one of the high points of the game. If a car blows up, some pedestrians will run away screaming, some will run over to inspect the wreckage (and get taken out by secondary explosions.) Attack a gang member, and all the other gang members who witness it will come after you. Try carjacking a mafia member some time if you want some excitement. The funniest suprise to me was when I mugged a pedstrian and then was hanging around in the area looking for something. An ambulance came and the EMTs revived the guy on the ground. Then he got up and came after me, caught me totally off guard. I guess I didnt' expect an NPC to have a memory like that.
Don't moderate flamebait as Troll. Know the difference or you will be Meta-moderated.
> This wouldn't work. I remember these at Trader Joes [traderjoes.com] (what a kick ass store) in Brookline, MA (see also Stah Mah-ket and Stop & Shop). You have to close the door in order to activate the scanner. It spins the can (or bottle) around until it's able to read the UPC. So, stick no workie because you have to shut the door. And even if you got the door shut with your stick in there, you'd be screwed and stickless.
We don't have doors on ours here in Michigan, but they probably use some sort of sensor to detect the can. Not sure what type (if any) since aluminum cans are not magnetic.