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Top Ten Most Collectible Video Games

Obiwan Kenobi writes "Gamespy has a new article up on the Top Ten All Time Rarest Video Games. This wacky list includes such gems as Chase the Chuck Wagon and Bubble Bath Babes, the only NES game with nudity (square nipples, anyone?). Makes me wonder what the top ten rarest PC games are..."

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  1. Original Castle Wolfenstein by Kymermosst · · Score: 4, Redundant

    The original 2-D Castle Wolfenstein, and others from the 8-bit famed Apple/Commodore/Atari machines.

    The Zork series on 5 1/4 disks.

    Original Ultima series games.

    Those are the true collectables.

    (first post?)

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    1. Re:Original Castle Wolfenstein by TopShelf · · Score: 2

      Or what about the old Adventure series on cassette tape? You'd start the tape, then go have dinner waiting for the game to load!

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    2. Re:Original Castle Wolfenstein by nogoodmonkey · · Score: 2

      i had/have castle wolfenstein on my atari 5400.

      never really got into the whole ultima series. i liked the sierra SGI (kings quest, heros quest, space quest, etc) games a little more.

    3. Re:Original Castle Wolfenstein by nogoodmonkey · · Score: 2

      i found out that if you hit play and hold down fast forward a little, you would almost double the loading time. ;-)

      i had the first "Adventure" game on my atari and also on my XT. only on the XT the name was changed to "adventur" (8 character filenames, heh).

    4. Re:Original Castle Wolfenstein by bogie · · Score: 2

      Yep I'm positive I still have the orginal Wolfenstein(with manual!), Karateka, Zork, Dr. J vs Larry Bird, and of course the greatest game ever Wizardy I. All for the IBM PCjr. Last time I checked years ago I needed a new floppy drive.

      Two questions:

      1) Think I'll be able to find another floppy drive for the PCjr?

      2) Think if I buy an 5 1/4 drive I'll be able to run any of these games on a DOS emulator? I still have DOS 2.0 in boxes, but I'm counting on that PCjr not working forever. I also have an old 486 I could throw an old version of DOS on.

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    5. Re:Original Castle Wolfenstein by Kymermosst · · Score: 2

      1) Think I'll be able to find another floppy drive for the PCjr?

      Yeah, check the local thrift stores like Goodwill and St. Vincent de Paul's. I find all kinds of stuff at the one here.

      2) Think if I buy an 5 1/4 drive I'll be able to run any of these games on a DOS emulator? I still have DOS 2.0 in boxes, but I'm counting on that PCjr not working forever. I also have an old 486 I could throw an old version of DOS on.

      You might be able to use dosemu... and if you've got VMware, probably for sure... unless they use any PCjr specific features, of which I am not sure how many such features existed.

      You plan on doing this with Linux or that other OS?

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    6. Re:Original Castle Wolfenstein by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

      And not to forget the classics like "The twelve tasks of Hercules" (first rpg I played, I think...and it beat the shit out of most rpg's nowadays for addiction factor...or that's just because I was young then :) ) or "Conan the barbarian (one fiendish platformer where I could never get past the 6th (or was that 8th?) stage, with the shandelier...those were the days :)

      Damn, now I need a good enough emulator for my Palm to play these things on the go :(

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    7. Re:Original Castle Wolfenstein by pyman · · Score: 2
      They've got it all wrong!

      The #1 Collectable is surely...

      Duke Nukem Forever!

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    8. Re:Original Castle Wolfenstein by JimPooley · · Score: 2

      16 colours? Luxury. When I were a lad we just had black and white, unless we stuck coloured cellophane over t'telly, and we were lucky if we had so much as a beep...

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  2. Sierra games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Police Quest I, Kings Quest I, Space Quest I, and Leisure Suit Larry!

    Original EGA versions, not that mouse-controlled VGA shit! I'm talking about typing commands at the ] prompt.

    1. Re:Sierra games! by nogoodmonkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      i'll never forget how long it took me to figure out the command at the end of heros quest:

      ] use candelabra

      i was only 9, i had no idea what a "candelabra" was. ;-) but i agree that these games shouldnt be overlooked. <flamebait>they were much more entertaining than the flashy fps-type games of the current generation. i guess the industry is just trying to cater to the short attention span of the current gamers.</flamebait>

    2. Re:Sierra games! by NineNine · · Score: 2

      Do you have it in the clear plastic box that came from IBM?!?!

    3. Re:Sierra games! by Monkelectric · · Score: 3, Informative

      You forgot "heros Quest I" later renamed to "Quest for Glory" due to a lawsuit by hasbro (which had a board game called heros quest). Rare item :)

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    4. Re:Sierra games! by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would have read your flame, but I got tired of reading.

    5. Re:Sierra games! by Dirtside · · Score: 2
      <flamebait>they were much more entertaining than the flashy fps-type games of the current generation. i guess the industry is just trying to cater to the short attention span of the current gamers.</flamebait>
      I'll bite.

      <flameresponse>

      You're a fucking idiot. You were nine years old then, and you're just looking at the past through convenient rose-colored glasses. The first games you play are always the best, in your memory, because they are the most mysterious, unknown, freshest, etc. Once you've played 500 other games, you stop seeing major surprises, and from then on, nothing seems to quite meet up to your standard from when you first got into it.

      </flameresponse>

      Glad to oblige :)

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    6. Re:Sierra games! by nogoodmonkey · · Score: 2

      no, its just that all FPS games are the same. there are always 9 weapons because *gasp* that is how many number keys you have. there is always a idiotic storyline that nobody follows, they just run around and perfect their deathmatch skill. i have played many games, and i wouldnt say that the first ones i played were the best.

    7. Re:Sierra games! by Dirtside · · Score: 2

      Yeah, they're all the same. Except for the ones with really well-done plot and story (Half-Life), or the ones with way the hell more than 9 weapons, not to mention an incredibly elaborate plot and highly detailed back story (Deus Ex), or the ones that aren't revolutionary but do a very good job with good level design, graphics, and excellent gameplay (Jedi Outcast).

      Every game in a given genre is exactly the same... except for the exceptions, of course.

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    8. Re:Sierra games! by dvk · · Score: 2

      Amen! Great games all-around, especially SQ1.
      Although I have to agree with one of the flamers in that a large portion of goodness of the games is nostalgic value (more so for me than probably most of the posters[1]), it still doesn't detract from the quality of the games and the fact that they were developing verbal skills as opposed to twitching.

      [1] SQ1 was:
      1) The first graphics-based computer game I ever played on IBM PC.
      2) Incredibly difficult for me (and thus very gratifying to play and win) due to the fact that at the time I lived in fUSSR and spoke very poor English. Had to fiddle a lot with the dictionary in a distributed effort with 2 friends to figure a lot of it out.
      3) Due to where/when I played it, associated with one of the 6 high points of my life[2].

      [2] That was a 1-month international computer camp near Moscow. The other high points (just to compare) were, in no particular order:
      * Winning Russian National math competition (yep, I still have the diploma on the wall to prove it).
      * Reciting an oath when i earned my US citizenship.
      * The look on my wife's face after her first orgasm (coupled with the fact that it was my first orgasm not involving myself ;-> - as well as the first sex either of us ever had - yeah, we are The Last Two People In America Who Married While Still Virgins :))))
      * The day my Dad brought home my first PC (self-soldered Sinclair Z80, back in USSR)
      * The day my first full-time paycheck arrived.

      -DVK

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  3. The games that shipped with Windows 1.0 by JJAnon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh wait, they haven't changed since then, so I guess they don't qualify as rare. Unless you are talking about the number of people who play them. :)

    1. Re:The games that shipped with Windows 1.0 by singularity · · Score: 2

      I actually happen to have a boxed copy of Windows 1.0 (opened, but...) and, after a quick glance, the only game it seems to include is Reversi, which is not included with Windows these days.

      It also included Windows Paint and Windows Write.

      (Oh, and I keep the box right next to my MacOS X 10.2 "Jaguar" box on my bookshelf. Also beside it is my Apple //gs manual).

      ObTopic: I think that one of the most collectable games was Pitfall II for the Atari 2600. It apparently had a custom sound chip, making it difficult to emulate. Other versions, such as for the Commedore and for the arcade, were not as fun.

      It was probably one of the most complex games for the 2600.

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    2. Re:The games that shipped with Windows 1.0 by DavidLeblond · · Score: 2

      I believe freecell was first made available in the Win32 redistribution for Windows 3.x.

      And don't forget Pinball that was first released for Plus!

  4. Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy... by docbrown42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...on cassette tape, for a TI 994a!

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    1. Re:Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy... by finkployd · · Score: 2

      Boy was that a cool system, it was also my first computer. Tunnels of Doom and Parsec were my favorites.

      Finkployd

    2. Re:Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy... by boinger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I still have a few working TI-99/4a decks with Parsec.

      And Hunt the Wumpus, and TI-Invaders, and bunch of other games.

      I should hook one up to the big-screen TV. hehe.

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    3. Re:Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy... by finkployd · · Score: 2

      Unfortunatly mine broke, but there are some good emulators out there.

      Finkployd

    4. Re:Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy... by mgs1000 · · Score: 2
      Alpiner!!!!

      Ahhh, the TI-99/4A, not my first computer (I had a couple of Sinclair ZX-81s before), but it holds a special place in my heart because I did my first programming on it. (Saving programs on an audio tape was a real bitch, tho)

    5. Re:Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy... by British · · Score: 2

      You sure about that? Infocom faithfully released their text adventures on the TI, but never in cassette form.

      I DO want to see a version of Choplifter for the TI though. According to some sources, it was made.

    6. Re:Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy... by mgs1000 · · Score: 2

      You can also play a java/web-based version here

    7. Re:Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy... by sjudd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I remember choplifter for the TI-99/4a - trust me, you dont wanna know. I was a Parsec legend

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    8. Re:Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy... by docbrown42 · · Score: 2

      My brothers and friends spent many an hour playing Tunnels of Doom. Once, because of a glitch in the program, my character had a " " that did 30pts of damage (the glitch caused the item to have no name). It was more than the best normal weapon (warball and chain, iirc), and could be used over and over. Ah, great memories!

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  5. Top 10 Collectible Games? by TimeReliesOnLadyLuck · · Score: 3

    I'll just stick to ones I know. First, Space War on the old Fairchild Channel 1 (remember that one?). Second, maybe Battle Tank??? Third, that one game where you play the colonizers, trade, and profit!

    No, not Colonization, the Civ-related game, the Commodore 64 game.

    1. Re:Top 10 Collectible Games? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2
      Uhhh.. Audio-format casettes of "Bombardier" for the Comodore PET, 4Kb?

      "You may fire when ready, Gridley."

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    2. Re:Top 10 Collectible Games? by eggstasy · · Score: 2

      MAKE MONEY FAST!!!!
      With this new program seen on National Television!
      Step 1: Play the colonizers
      Step 2: Trade
      Step 3: Profit!!!

      Yes this article is offtopic. Sue me, I am bored to death. Mod me to whatever you want, I have plenty of karma and consider it meaningless enough.
      Have fun.

  6. Great read by Mupp252 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can see collecting vintage video games becoming a hobby much the same as people who collect vinyl and record players.

    Sure, you can always get the emulated version of the game or the mp3 version of the album.. but it's just not the same.

    1. Re:Great read by btellier · · Score: 2

      Zelda 1 for the NES: still the Best Game Ever

      And I defy you to say that all the fancy graphics in the world make any game more fun to play with a couple friends than Baseball for the NES.

    2. Re:Great read by wheany · · Score: 2

      No no no. Most old games are crap. But then again, so is 90% of everything.

    3. Re:Great read by nogoodmonkey · · Score: 2

      most new games are crap then too. Or should we just say most games? or most software in general?

    4. Re:Great read by wheany · · Score: 2

      90% of everything is crap.

  7. My favorite rare game... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My favorite rare game was written by a now dead transsexual for the Apple ][. And I am not trolling, Cytron Masters rocked and transsexuals wrote a lot of games during the 80s! Weird but true...

  8. WARNING: Noisy flash ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those of you who, like me, are stupid enough to have flash enabled. I got a nice noisy flash advert popping up and screaming sound when I loaded the page. Those of you at work be warned.

    1. Re:WARNING: Noisy flash ad by Megane · · Score: 2

      Ha, three strikes and you're out! I have flash disabled by default (just move the damn plug-in until you need it), I run Mozilla with popup blocking, and I use headphones.

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    2. Re:WARNING: Noisy flash ad by radish · · Score: 2

      For those of you who, like me, are stupid enough to have your speakers switched on. I got a nice noisy flash advert popping up and screaming sound when I loaded the page. Those of you at work be warned.

      headphones are your friend :)

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  9. OMG!!! by Exmet+Paff+Daxx · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A gold NWC cartridge recently sold for $6,500! Will their value increase in the future? It seems a safe bet.
    Holy Crap!!! My brother won this in 1990 and has one of these, I just called him! He's freaking out, he always thought it was garbage (though he apparently still plays it). Does anyone have any suggestions on how to sell this thing?
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    1. Re:OMG!!! by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 5, Funny
      Does anyone have any suggestions on how to sell this thing?

      Send it over to me. I'll take care of it for you. (does evil pinky finger thing).

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    2. Re:OMG!!! by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 5, Funny

      If only there were some sort of Internet auction site... :)

    3. Re:OMG!!! by jlower · · Score: 5, Informative

      Find a completed auction on eBay that did very well for the same or a similar item and emulate that auction as closely as possible.

    4. Re:OMG!!! by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      better yet contact the next highest losing bidder and offer it to him for $5500.00..

      screw ebay, they just want their cut.

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    5. Re:OMG!!! by NeMon'ess · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The value will not increase indefinitely. Like many SNES games, as the system dies their price declines. As it becomes difficult to locate new copies the price goes up again. In time most every collector who wants a copy will acquire one and the price will decline again. Everything pre-NES was before I could ride a bike (age 5) and I don't remember them nor care about the games. The same will happen with the SNES in time. Do you think kids born in 1990 will be ebaying Contra III for a hundred dollars in ten years? I highly doubt it. Every gamer from that era probably has their copy already so there won't be much demand anymore. My personal target is a copy of Snatcher for the Sega CD for $40 or less. HEY how about that, ebay's got it for $33 and 18 hours left. I doubt it'll stay that low as most auctions end at about 55.

    6. Re:OMG!!! by ksw2 · · Score: 2

      Hmm, wonder if I could get a hold of the ROM image of this and sell that on ebay... mwuhaha

    7. Re:OMG!!! by Mitreya · · Score: 2
      Holy Crap!!! My brother won this in 1990 and has one of these, I just called him! He's freaking out,

      This is hardly a reason to freak out :). After reading that only 26 of these were ever made, I expected to see something on order of 100K or 1M rather than 6K :).

      At any rate, he should probalby hold on to it, since in another decade it would probably grow in price exponentially

    8. Re:OMG!!! by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 2

      Except that I have seen some places that are making Famicom (and NES) knockoffs - fully compatible with both Japanese and US games. I expect that some other company will make a Super Famicom/Super NES machine shortly. I'm thinking about picking up one of these for my old Final Fantasy/Metal Gear NES cartridges to work in.

    9. Re:OMG!!! by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

      I can't seem to find it anywhere. Are you sure?

    10. Re:OMG!!! by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      You could call it "iBuy" or "eBuy"!

    11. Re:OMG!!! by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

      Actually, more than likely the price will contnue to rise. Remember this well: there were many more nes' made than that cartridge. The number of carts in a series of 115 will decline, but more than likely there will still be NES' to play on a hundred years from now. And considering that rare will always be rare, that cart is only going to go up in price. Especially as there are more and more gamers, of who a percentage will always be 'Collecters'.

      As for games like Super Mario World and Contra III...same thing, to a much lesser degree. But considering gameplay is god to any gamer (and if it's not, you're not a gamer), there will always be a market for these things. I can already notice it for my original gameboy carts.

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    12. Re:OMG!!! by n3m6 · · Score: 2

      infact u can easily buy a nintendo clone in thailand. the short cartridge version.(whatever the name is)

    13. Re:OMG!!! by PyroMosh · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've seen the ROM. Unfortunatly, the actual cart had a set of dip switches on it (here's a better pic, too) which were used for setting the time limit on the game.

      If you're interested perhaps you might find it online somewhere. Though don't ask me where. ( :

      If you do find it, be sure to read the documentation in the zip file explaining the dip switch hack. You'll need a good emulator too. NESticle, while good in it's day, won't cut it with this.

  10. Rare.. but bad? by RealBeanDip · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I read over the list at Gamespy (I know, this is slashdot, but I wanted to see the list).

    Quite frankly I didn't see a game there that looked worth playing. Is that why they're rare?

    As far as the 2600 goes, I'd have to say Pitfall and Dragster where the best there.

    Rare games for the PC: I have, in my posession, the full boxed version [with manual] of "Solo Flight" on 5 1/4" disk written by none other than Sid Meier! ... sad, I know, but true.

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  11. Chuckwagon is not all that rare by freeweed · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This is sort of an urban legend type thing amongst game collectors, but the cart itself isn't all that rare. Thankfully, the article even points this out:

    It is neither the rarest nor the most enjoyable Atari 2600 game


    The article isn't so much about the 10 rarest games, as it is the 10 most collectible/sought after games. And considering "Prototypes" is #2, it's not even much of a top 10 list at that :)

    Oh, and for anyone interested in that Gold NES cart - yes, it's been dumped. I know I won't be shelling out $6k+ anytime soon to play the real thing.
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    1. Re:Chuckwagon is not all that rare by richlb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Chase The Chuckwagon is not only synonymous with hunting for rare games, it's synonymous with the Great Video Game Crash of the early 80's.

      Part of what led to the video game crash was the proliferation of poor quality, quickly produced games that were flooding the market. Chase The Chuckwagon came to typify exactly the type of game that was being rushed out to "cash in" on the video game craze. Owning it is like owning a piece of Enron stock. Not exactly "rare", but it has a story all its own.

    2. Re:Chuckwagon is not all that rare by Schnapple · · Score: 5, Informative
      Part of what led to the video game crash was the proliferation of poor quality, quickly produced games that were flooding the market. Chase The Chuckwagon came to typify exactly the type of game that was being rushed out to "cash in" on the video game craze.
      You're right about the reasons for why the video game industry crashed. However, this particular game, due to its distribution method, low number of produced cartridges, and known ending (that many of them were destroyed) does make it rare.

      What did more to crash the industry circa 1982 was the horrible port of Pac-Man for the 2600 and of course E.T. for the 2600. In 1982 only 10 million of the 20 million 2600 systems were in active use, but Atari made 12 million Pac-Man carts, meaning they expected every single active 2600 user to buy the game, plus 2 million more (either new users or old users with new interest). It didn't work. And as for E.T., they spent $25 million to get the rights to E.T. and paid some programmer to get the game done in six weeks so they could shove it out the door. The game is literally impossible to finish and only sold 1 million of the 5 million cartridges made - most of the rest made it into a landfill in New Mexico.

      This is what killed the game industry in the early 1980's.

    3. Re:Chuckwagon is not all that rare by Megane · · Score: 2
      Mine cost 50 cents, so I'm not complaining. (Actually it was in the bag with some other random cart for a dollar). I have two items on that list (I still have my original Bounty Bob with gold label, plus I found one a couple of years back). Other holy grails I have are 5200 Asteroids ($1, same thrift store as Chuckwagon, plus a complete one I traded for before that) and 2600 Crazy Climber (I hounded a load of carts for two weeks until they were up for sale).

      Bounty Bob was a good game; it was just the 5200 controllers that sucked. Another good rare game is 5200 Gremlins, which is sort of like Robotron 2084 on downers.

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    4. Re:Chuckwagon is not all that rare by irix · · Score: 2

      Man, I can still remember how much I hated E.T. on the 2600 as a little kid. Some Atari 2600 E.T. karma whoring:

      More about the game.

      The author discusses coding it up in 5 weeks.

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    5. Re:Chuckwagon is not all that rare by bm_luethke · · Score: 2

      Amusingly enough if anyone here gets G4TV (A channel only about video games) one of thier current sopts they run during commercial breaks has some older game deseigners talking and doing stupid dances. Probably the funnies (IMO) is some guy with a large beard (similar to a well know linux geek) and say basically (i'm paraphrasing) "I created yar's revenge, one of the most popular video games in history (with large smile and enthusiastic, then change to downcast look and low voice) and E.T., the worst game in video game history". The scene changes and has him doing some really hokey dances, it is quite amusing. (plus interesting the same guy did both those games)

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  12. Alkabeth by nightsweat · · Score: 3

    Loved it on the old Apple ][+

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    1. Re:Alkabeth by Pope · · Score: 2

      I'll see you that and raise you "Karateka"

      Just don't "accidentally" step off the cliff right at the start :)

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  13. darn it... by greechneb · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. 1990 Nintendo World Championship Cartridge (Nintendo Entertainment System)

    I just sold my copy last week for $.25 at a yard sale... I thought it was funny the guy took off laughing after I took his money. ;)

    1. Re:darn it... by Megane · · Score: 2
      Did he say his name was "Sum Guy"?

      (Sum Guy is an old joke among the rec.games.video.classic crowd.)

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  14. A wise investment? by Bigboote66 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A gold NWC cartridge recently sold for $6,500! Will their value increase in the future? It seems a safe bet.
    I doubt it. For technology items like this, the value of the collectable is function of the earning potential of buyer and the nostalgia value of the item. For example, classic cars slowly go up in value as the demographic that remembers them from their teenage years reaches the age of massive disposable income, then drop in value as the same group slowly dies off.

    With geek items like this, the half-life is even shorter. Magic The Gathering cards are already past their prime in terms of collectable value; once the people who played the NES in their youth are past the age of buying this stuff, watch the prices plummet.

    -BbT
    1. Re:A wise investment? by len_harms · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you collect JUST because it MIGHT be worth something, find a different hobbie like stamps, coins, or gold.

      You need to go into collecting because you like it. I have a fairly meager collection of about 1000 games. Thats not even close to being hard core. I am mearly casual about it. I snag things only I like. I could care less about what its worth. That is secondary to why I buy the games. I buy them because I like them.

      With DVD's I am the same way. I buy movies I like. Even got a copy of 'They Live'. I had NO idea it was a 'rare' dvd. I bought it when it came out and gladly paid my 20 bucks for it. Because its a fun movie.

      The example you gave of Magic the gathering is one of the pitfalls of collecting things I dont really care for, some collecting is a fad. You have to watch out for it. Also collecting takes time and sometimes lots of money. I had the same thing happen to me with baseball cards. I got into it because I thought it MIGHT be worth something. Not because I like baseball, and find the cards cool.

      Forget 'collectors editions'. Those are usually HUGE runs with a sticker slapped on em. RARE things are almost always things that were never 'popular'. Junk people never wanted. For example Star Wars toys. Most of the toys are worth about what they originaly came out for. However RARE, and thefore valuable, are the toys that never got opened. Still has the box is rare, but not as rare as unopened. Mail ins are usually rare also. Not a lot of people do it, and they are usually small runs of things.

      Another thing to keep in mind is things do not become valuable overnight. Sometimes it takes YEARS. Think of the fun quote from Raiders. "take this watch, 10 dollars from a street vendor. I bury it in the sand for a thousand years. Priceless"

      My rarest PC game? Wing Commander Kilrathi Saga. I didnt buy it to 'collect' it. I bought it to blow some Kilrathi scum from the sky!

  15. you have to be a freak by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    if you would pay $6500.00 for that #1 on their list.. I actually played that game it sucked, and just to get your hands on one of the gold-plated ones someone paid more than the cost of a Kia Rio!
    Holy cow, I though I was wacked for wanting my home computer automated... I dont feel bad now for spending 1/2 that and actually having something I can use!

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  16. Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Good'. by Bonker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'Chase the Chuckwagon?' WTF I would have thrown that game away with other favorites like 'Avoid the Noid' and '7-up Spot'. Seriously...

    Top Ten Games that Don't Suck and I'd still willingly pay money for:

    Doom - PC - FPS Grandaddy.
    Battlezone - 2600 or any other platform since.
    Super Mario Bros. 3 - NES, SNES - Miyamoto's best work, IMHO.
    Metroid - NES. I once saw a prototype/display cartridge at Sears Roebuck in which Samus had a heart meter instead of a power meter.
    Burgertime - Colecovision? Arcade classic, at any rate. I can still play Burgertime for hours at a time on Mame.
    Galaga - Ditto.
    Legend of Zelda - NES - Excellent game design by Miyamoto before there really was such a thing.
    ChronoTrigger - SNes - All kinds of RPG Goodness from Square.
    Sonic the Hedgehog - Genesis. The first 'Twitch' game I ever played. Sonic rocked my world.
    Excitebike - NES - One of the first games you could truly edit. My friends and I would spend hours making nasty, yet well designed tracks to race through. We went so far as to write the letter/number track parts down because the save feature never worked quite right. I always assumed it was for the floppy-endabled Famicom.

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  17. What about rare PC games? by Toasty16 · · Score: 3, Informative
    I have a retail, boxed copy of Out of This World, released by Interplay in 1991. It's in mint condition, complete with 5.25" and 3.5" diskettes and the bizarre security wheel used to enter the correct images on the installation screen. Any takers? ;-)

    But the real find would be the European version, called Another World.

  18. Top 10 MOST collectible? by medscaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would want to collect these :
    - Unreal Tournament 2044
    - Doom CXVII
    - Ultima Online '72
    - Grand Theft Aircar 16
    - Age of Empires 13 - the 20th Century
    - Quake IIIIIIIIII
    - LOTR 12 - The return of the grandson of the guy who heard about the king (Live 5-d action)
    - Wolfenstein 16-d (Now with time-travel gameplay)
    - Medal of Honor 9 : Assault the Allies

    Oh...and Starcraft 2, for crying out loud.

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    1. Re:Top 10 MOST collectible? by slaker · · Score: 2

      Cripes I'm a nerd.

      sol.exe for Windows 2000 is a 32-bit .exe unlike previous versions (I don't have an NT4 machine handy to check that far back).

      If you play solitaire on Win95 or 98 long (hours!) enough, you probably WILL crash the machine.

      Also, the Win2000 version has an autoplay feature (right-click) that isn't present in earlier versions.

      Oddly, the 2000 version of Sol.exe does not work on previous versions of Windows.

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  19. Re:Doom Anyone? by Kenshin · · Score: 2

    That's because they distributed something like 50 million of them.

    I had a box FULL of those.

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  20. Re:X Com by doormat · · Score: 2

    If it is, I've got the original XCOM and well as TFTD. Maybe its time to hit up ebay.

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  21. DO you need the box and manuals for the zork games by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 2

    I think ive go those!!

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  22. NWC by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 3, Informative

    More info on the Nintendo World Championship ROM available here.

    Anyone got a copy of the ROM?

    1. Re:NWC by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

      Yeah, i got it, and i was trying to find a good emulator. FCEU came closest, but in order to start the game, it appears you need to hit start on controller 2. And try for the life of me, i can't figure out how to do that with FCEU. I even downloaded the source and poked around for a few.

  23. Re:Never Grew up! by NineNine · · Score: 3, Informative

    NES and SNES before PC gaming? Are you crazy? The NES came around about, oh, I don't know, about 10-15 years after games first appeared on PC's.

  24. All your base... by uncoveror · · Score: 2

    Does anyone actually have a copy of Zero Wing? THat would be quite a holy grail of gaming. How about the E.T. Game that they buried thousands of in the desert? Does anybody have that one?

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    1. Re:All your base... by Fjord · · Score: 2

      I too have E.T. and it's available at our local flea market. With 1 million copies sold and no body really wanting it, it's not really rare.

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  25. Chase the Chuckwagon is crap! by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It has always been crap, and even it's creator has stated that it's not a good game. Just because something is rare doesn't mean it's worth collecting.

    1. Re:Chase the Chuckwagon is crap! by sporty · · Score: 2

      Define worth. Worth money? Worth joy of having? Worth of rarity?

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    2. Re:Chase the Chuckwagon is crap! by Jonboy+X · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but don't rule out campiness. The Atari 2600 in and of itself has that special naive charm about it, and, well, a promotional game about dog food? Camp score 9.9.

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    3. Re:Chase the Chuckwagon is crap! by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2

      This reminds me of Miner 2049'er, which seemed to be on almost every platform, but totally sucked.

      Funnily enough, I was addicted to that game for a number of months. The Atari 800 version was great. It's generally remembered as a classic.

      Chase the Chuckwagon, though, didn't have anything going for it except the dog food tie-in.

  26. Quake III Arena by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a metal-boxed copy of Quake III for Linux! I guess it can't be that rare, about 2 months ago i actually (i'm 100% serious about this) bought it at the Dollar Store, for a dollar!!! They had all the usual crappy $1 Store games there, and a stack of Q3A for Linux sitting on the bottom shelf. I should have bought 5 and kept them shrink wrapped!

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    1. Re:Quake III Arena by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 2

      At dollar stores throughout western Canada a few years ago (or maybe last year) you could get as many boxed copies of Shogo you could carry for a buck each.

      What's funny is all the local pawn shops had 5 or 6 copies of Shogo, obviously brought in as "trade-ins" - given that a few were still sealed, I would wager people bought copies and brought them to the pawn shops for credit against other games :)

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    2. Re:Quake III Arena by 512k · · Score: 3, Funny

      Microcenter in Cambridge was selling QIII for linux for $3-5 (can't remember)..there was a sticker slapped to each one explaining what you needed to download to run it under Windows

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    3. Re:Quake III Arena by dmaxwell · · Score: 2

      My wife bought me one of those a couple of years ago. Isn't she a sweetie?!

  27. Rarities Reprinted by robbway · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Activision recently released Activision Anthology for PS2. In addition to almost all the Activision line, some Imagic, and an Atari game or two, it has a couple games called Kabobber and Thwacker that were either not USA releases, as they don't sound American, or they were prototypes.

    This shows that: 1) there is a market for crappy old games, 2) there is a way to get crappy old unreleased games, 3) the rarest games are still out there, and 4) I'm dumb enough to buy it.

    I can't say I'm not enjoying the old stuff, but Laser Blast is way too boring to go for the !!!!!!! score. I can't believe I ever did that.

  28. Had then all, played then all! by Pac · · Score: 2

    I guess I am getting old.

  29. KQ, anyone? by NineNine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone know where I can get a copy of King's Quest? This was one of the first EGA colored games I ever played, and one of the very early adventure games. You had free reign to do anything you wanted (to a certain extent), so this one felt really ground breaking to me. Anyone have a copy of this sucker? I've long since lost the box (actually, this one was distributed in a plastic case for the IBM PCjr by IBM themselves).

    1. Re:KQ, anyone? by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      Don't know about the original, but these guys have done a remake of both KQ1 and KQ2.

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    2. Re:KQ, anyone? by LordHunter317 · · Score: 2

      My grandfather may still have a copy of this, for the IBM PCjr, but not the plastic case. I was still playing that game well until the 1990's, until the PCjr failed to POST anymore.

    3. Re:KQ, anyone? by CoughDropAddict · · Score: 2

      Ironically enough, "Kings Quest: Collection 2" is no longer made and has itself become rare. On Amazon they are offered second-hand starting at $199!

  30. Re:few rare games i own by schnell · · Score: 3, Informative

    anyone remeber a series of games for the 2600 all with world at the end of the title ? 'waterworld, fireworld, earthworld' etc? i had these as a kid and loved them.. i remeber them as being mostly puzzles of some kind.. can someone help me out with the name of these?

    They were part of Atari's "SwordQuest" challenge. The idea was to hide Easter Eggs in the four games that gave you hints towards winning a $25k "treasure." It was (at least initially) a great marketing gimmick, and each game came with a mini DC comic furthering the plot. Alas, despite all the excitement, the games sucked rather hard, as they were purposely inscrutable (like the Atari 2600 "Raiders of the Lost Ark" game) and sales of the last couple games in the series were dismal.

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  31. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by DdJ · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Doom - PC - FPS Grandaddy.
    Actually, the FPS grandaddy would have to be Wolfenstein 3D. That was a hell of a game when it came out, and created the hype for Doom. The day Doom first came out for download, network traffic all over the internet ground to a halt, and the experience people had playing Wolf3D was one of the reasons.
  32. Rarest Video Game by miracle69 · · Score: 2

    Blackjack for Linux.

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  33. Underdogs website. by nlinecomputers · · Score: 2, Informative

    This site here has a lot of links to old games that aren't published anymore. Not the same as owning the orginal but if your dying to play an old game of Jumpman this is a place you can find it and a lot of other old games.

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  34. Re:Only NES game with nudity? by outsider007 · · Score: 2

    not to mention all the hacks.
    my favorite: nude super mario brothers

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  35. Re: MULE by bracher · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm pretty sure you mean M.U.L.E.

    http://www.eidolons-inn.de/mule/
    http://weber.u csd.edu/~amany/mule.html

    I wasted _many_ an hour playing this game as a kid...

  36. Re:few rare games i own by NineNine · · Score: 2

    Anyone remeber the porn games vivid made for the 3do back in the day

    No, but I *DO* remember ascii porn that you could print on daisywheel or dot-matrix printers.

    type hotblond.txt > prn

  37. Me too!! by Pac · · Score: 2

    I still have Wolf3D installed and I play it now and then. The graphics are obviously lousy compared to newer games, but it still feels good. "I am Death Incarnate" using just a gun in any night mission is still a hell of a good game. :)

  38. Apple II by Deanasc · · Score: 2

    A text based game called 'Kabul Spy' for the Apple II. Suddenly it seems amazingly ahead of it's time. I don't remember much from it except that you spent a lot of time in a jeep up in the mountains looking for caves.

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  39. Texas Chainsaw Massacre for ATARI 2600 by tezzery · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about The Texas chainsaw massacre game for Atari 2600. Apparently this game was banned from a lot of retailers for violence (pixelated blood!) I've seen it go for well over $100 on ebay. Not sure if its worthy of making that top-10 list, but certainly a worthy mention.

  40. Does anyone remember an old PC 2D space shooter? by cdipierr · · Score: 2

    There was a game out around 1993/4-ish that was one of the best of its time. It was a top-down scrolling space shooter where you'd compete in various levels.

    Each level began by a big set of "doors" opening across the screen and they'd close again at the end of the level. It was highly addictive and had a great SoundBlaster (and Gravis) soundtrack of techno music.

    Anyone remember the name?

  41. Re:X Com by aborchers · · Score: 2

    X-Com UFO Defense for the Playstation is worth good money, in the range of $30-$50 US last time I sold one on ebay. Target unloaded a ton of the PC version a year or so ago and I bought multiple copies to share with my friends for $5 each, which seems to be about the current market value as well...

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  42. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by Osty · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, the FPS grandaddy would have to be Wolfenstein 3D.

    Actually, you're not quite right, either. The real FPS grandaddy is actually Hovertank, with Catacomb 3D coming shortly after that. Catacomb 3D evolved from Hovertank's engine, and Wolf3D evolved from Catacomb's.


    Now, I'm sure you can find some other first-person shooting game prior to 1991 if you really dig (Battlezone, perhaps?), but that's the history of the FPS and id.

  43. rare systems by paradesign · · Score: 2
    even more rare than the rare games are rare systems, especially all the ones made grey market in Korea. For someone who,is looking to collext every system, it makes things a pain.

    also what about Dev kits, im supriseed theyre not rare. id love a xbox dev kit or a ps2 dev kit. rare in 20, hell yeah.

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  44. Rarest PC game by QuantumRiff · · Score: 3, Funny

    Duke Nukem Forever...
    That was relased what, 3 years ago, or, wait, its still "When its done!"

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  45. Re:few rare games i own by CSG_SurferDude · · Score: 2

    Geezzz, what a pervert.... Is that all you ever think about?

    Oh wait a minute....

    This is NineNine that made that comment.


    Never mind.....

  46. Police Quest by kingkade · · Score: 2

    Police Quest was so cool. Even though the story line was linear, the text command interface and real-life duties and police situations made it feel like you were in a living world.

    Also, walking in on someone in the shower in the locker room and listening to them complain was my first experience of virtual sexual harassment.

  47. Re:Rarest PC games by PurpleFloyd · · Score: 2

    I would imagine that the original disks and packaging would be worth something. Just because you can get ROMs for old Atari games doesn't mean that the games themselves are worthless; I would imagine that things are similar with classic PC games.

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  48. NES game with nudity by Ryne · · Score: 2, Funny

    And they say Nintendo doesn't aim for the adult crowd...

  49. Re:Huh? by joshsisk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Um, sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. The first Castle Wolfenstein game was made by id Software and was called "Wolfenstein-3D."

    Don't shoot your mouth off if you don't know what you are talking about.

    Wolfenstein 3D (1992) was the THIRD Wolfenstein game, following Castle Wolfenstein (1983) and and Beyond Castle Wolfenstein (1984). Those games were indeed 2D.

  50. Re:masterblaster! by Pope · · Score: 2

    Who runs Bartertown!?

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  51. Uhh.. by Viewsonic · · Score: 2

    GenX falls into the category of Colecovision AND Nintendo .. GenY is after Nintendo...

  52. Re:Huh? by RobL3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Um, sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. The first Castle Wolfenstein game was made by id Software and was called "Wolfenstein-3D."
    Um, sorry, but maybe you're just not as old as the rest of us. There was a 2-d Wolfenstien, It shipped in a clear plastic bag, and featured German soldiers shouting at you in German. In fact, the instruction manual even had a translation guide (like you could understand what was coming out of the Apple ]['s crappy little speaker.) This was the real precursor to W3D, and allowed you to pick up bulletproof vests, shoot nazi's, and steal gold. The objective was to find the secret war plans and escape from the castle.

  53. What about Battle Cruiser 3000? by El_Smack · · Score: 2

    The best thing about that game was the flame wars on usenet between the creator and all the suckers that shelled out for it. Ah, Derek Smart, where art thou?

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    1. Re:What about Battle Cruiser 3000? by RollingThunder · · Score: 2

      Rumor has it he can be found here - opinionated as ever.

  54. At the risk of being redundant... by Xenographic · · Score: 2

    These are, of course, the rarest/most "collectable" games, rather than the best. Despite being the only porno NES game, Bubble Bath Babes is CRAP. It's just another derivative 'line up the colored ___s' game with pr0n in the background. Of the lot, Phantasy Star was one of the few that stood out as actually being a GOOD game.

    If you don't mind, I'll go back to playing all the FUN classics now (all the Marios, Zeldas, Guardian Legend & the good RPGs) somewhere that supports our right to fair use (consoleclassix.com) ...

  55. the dollar store by asv108 · · Score: 2

    This is true! My goofy neighbor bought Quake III for Linux at the dollar store only to discover that the game did not run on windows. When he asked me why laptop looked all funny, I said it ran Linux. Subsequently, he gave me the game, but he lost the tin. I was amazed that any retail outlet carried Linux games, let alone the dollar store.

  56. find who purchased it by Brigadier · · Score: 2



    my suggestion is find who purchased it. These will have teh most value to someone who has a set or best yet all of these cartagies. e-mail the person who wrote the article, and follow the lead to who purchased it. more than likely they have teh same cash to pay for yours. Having two of a set of collector item definately raises the individual value of each.

  57. Lease valuable cartridge? by ShieldWolf · · Score: 2

    If you ask me there is no competition:

    E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial for the 2600

    A local electronics shop is selling them for PENNIES ($CDN! ;) ) and they have BOXES of 'em.

    Anyone else remember how unfun, and unlike the movie that game was? You would fall down a hole and just get stuck with that stupid flower - god I hated that game!!!

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  58. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by Schnapple · · Score: 2
    I'd still willingly pay money for...Excitebike
    You're in luck - there's an adapter for the GBA called the e-Card reader. You swipe special cards in it that have data along their edges. The decks are NES games - one of them is Excitebike. Once you get past the $70 GBA investment and the ~$40 for the card reader, the decks are $5 each. There's also some more NES titles. This, coupled with the ulockable Metroid in Metroid Prime is proof to me that Nintendo hasn't forgotten their roots.
  59. New verb? by sczimme · · Score: 2

    I would ebay it if someone wants to make an offer.

    Apparently 'ebay' is now a verb. (The infinitive form must be 'to ebay'.) I guess enough precedent was set with 'leverage', 'antique'*, and 'blog', and I know all nouns can be verbed, but still... Oh, well.

    ('To antique' means to go looking/shopping for antiques.)

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    1. Re:New verb? by susano_otter · · Score: 2

      Technically, "to blog" isn't all that much of a neologism: "to log" (as in "to make an entry in a logbook') is a venerable verb that has long been accepted.

      Also, you forgot "to google".

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    2. Re:New verb? by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

      And of course there's /.-ing, google-ing and of course verbing :)

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  60. *Who* doesn't know what they're talking about? by kiwimate · · Score: 2

    You wouldn't care to put money on that, would you? I can remember the surreptitious Wolfenstein games being played on the Apple ][ machines in my high school's computer lab back in 1983. I never could understand what the horrible noise emanating from the little speaker was saying.

  61. Strike Commander? by Pope · · Score: 2

    Did that ever come out? Back in university I had a friend who would play Wing Commander incessantly. We kept seeing the ads for Strike Commander in magazines, but I wasn't a big gamer so I never went looking for it (not that it would have run on my 386SX at the time anyway ;)

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    1. Re:Strike Commander? by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      Yup, it did, and it wasn't a bad little game, either.

      I think I actually got it in a bundle with Privateer/Privateer: Righteous Fire.

      Home of the Underdogs has it here: http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?name=Strike+ Commander

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    2. Re:Strike Commander? by ictatha · · Score: 2

      Speaking of Wing Commander, did anyone else buy the Wing Commander III special pre-order deal? With the round movie tin, t-shirt, book, etc. (and, of course, the game)? I was shocked to find that I couldn't one on ebay. I still have most of that stuff... I remember begging my parents for that.

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  62. Re:masterblaster! by Schnapple · · Score: 2

    There's a new Master Blaster game, Master Blaster: Blasting Again for the PSX. It's cheap and worth a look.

  63. Please be kind to their website by SScorpio · · Score: 2, Informative
    Tierra http://www.tierraentertainment.com/

    Has recreated the VGA version of KQ1. They also had the person who voice acted Graham in KQ5 & 6 do the voice for him.

    Overall it's a great free game. It's not a nostalgic as playing the 16 color AGI version; however, it's the same game in a prettier package.

    As for an original copy of King's Quest, your going to need to use eBay. Sierra has unfortantely stopped selling the Collector's Editions that included all these classics. You should be able to get just KQ1 for a few buck; however, a Collector's Edition can easily hit $50 or more.

  64. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by Kymermosst · · Score: 2

    Yeah, it was good for single player.

    Playing online sucked, though. Gotta be the only game in the world where high ping/packet loss increased your chances of winning.

    When someone's connection started to go sour, everyone else saw their tank jittering and disappearing, and it was impossible to hit.

    Then, the rampant cheating began...

    I quit playing after that.

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  65. Starflight for the PC by Ryu2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That has got to be one of the rarities out there, at least in terms of finding an original boxed version. I remember being absolutely engrossed by that game back in 1986 when it firsrt game out. Even though it had to run on primitive hardware of the time (CGA graphics, PC speaker sound), it was still a both a design and a technical masterpiece (they fit a whole universe of 300+ star systems, 20 sentinent alien races, 1000+ planets, each individually mapped, with unique terrain, artifacts, economies, etc.) on two 360K floppy discs. It was amazingly open ended and non linear, and yet had a completely fleshed out history, storyline, and universe.

    I remember many happy hours spent mining, trying to get the most money, upgrade my ship, find out all the secrets, make alliances with alien races, etc. Very fun, and almost impossible to find now (not counting downloading it from a abandonwarez site, of course.)

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    1. Re:Starflight for the PC by crystall · · Score: 2

      I remember playing with on a copied version with a copied code wheel.

      Yep, we were thinkin' ahead. Pried that baby apart and copied both layers, then a little crafty-type work at Kinkos with the laminator, exacto knife, a hole punch and a paper brad and ... voila, more code wheels.

      Of course, we were just callow middle-schoolers then ...

  66. Re:Never Grew up! by Quill_28 · · Score: 2

    Terminals is what he's talking about.

    Think "Hunt the wumpus"

  67. Re:Does anyone remember an old PC 2D space shooter by prockcore · · Score: 2

    Silpheed?

  68. Re:Never Grew up! by Kymermosst · · Score: 2

    I believe I still *have* my Colecovision. If I do, I have a bunch of games for it, and the expansion box that lets you play Atari 2600 games on it.

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    "Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
  69. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by DdJ · · Score: 2

    Knew about Catacomb 3D, didn't know about Hovertank. But, at least around CMU campus back then, nobody really knew about any of these until Wolf3D. That was the one that popularized the genre, at least here.

  70. Re:few rare games i own by Fjord · · Score: 2

    What an aptly named device to send it to.

    I too remember the ASCII porn. Then I remember the programs that came later that coverted GIFs into ASCII. Then I remember the programs that converted ASCII pictures into greyscale pics.

    That's when I felt it got rediculous.

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  71. from the article by nege · · Score: 3, Funny

    ""Chasing the Chuck Wagon" has become a synonym for hunting for rare games in thrift stores, pawn shops and other such locations."

    oh...i had ANOTHER meaning for that...

  72. Can still buy these by moc.tfosorcimgllib · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is a store in Nebraska that still has old games like this on the shelf for $10 a pop. Instruction manual and everything. They are classics, but rare, lord no.

    1. Re:Can still buy these by moc.tfosorcimgllib · · Score: 2

      > Where in Nebraska? Store name?

      Infolinc Computers in Lincoln, NE. About 30 minutes after I posted that, I realized that I haven't been in Lincoln since 1998, and I the last time I visited that store was 1996 to buy a computer (A very solid system). Then I pretty much realized I'm old.

      It's worth a look though, who knows, they might still have some of those games.

  73. Rarest in terms of numbers by Schnapple · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Quick story:

    There was this company called Active Enterprises. It basically amounted to a guy in his garage making games. They had a cart called Action 52 for the NES which had 52 games on it. Of course to call these things "games" was a stretch - most were like quick coding excercises. The idea was that they would make up for in quantity what they lacked in quantity. At an asking price of $199.99 its unclear if his target audience was Blockbuster (which is used to getting hosed with rental pricing) or parents who figured that 52 games at the price of four was a deal.

    One of the games on Action 52 was The Cheetahmen. Apparently Active Enterprises also wrote a game called Cheetahmen II . I say apparently because Active never released it. It appears that what happened was Active ordered 1,000 copies of Cheetahmen II and then couldn't pay the manufacturer for the carts, so after a year or two the manufacturer just sold them to people (which is legal).

    So, Cheetahmen II is probably one of the rarest cartridges ever made.

  74. n00diez by fo0bar · · Score: 2

    More screen shots and badly translated text (although not AYB-style bad) here.

  75. Re:masterblaster! by Glytch · · Score: 2

    If you mean Blaster Master, I agree. My god, the music in that game was actually enjoyable! And it was for the NES!

    Not to mention the pure evil thrill of getting your gun up to level 8 and mowing down anything that moved. Oh god, I want to play it again now. Good thing there's that nice NES emulator for the Dreamcast.

  76. Final Fantasy Tactics by brood · · Score: 2

    Until they reissued it, Final Fantasy Tactics for the Playstation was quite the collectors item too. I remember I bought it used twice for about $10 at my local blockbuster, and both times sold it for $40-50 on eBay. I remember seeing auctions for new versions of it go as high as $120. And of course now you can buy it at pretty much any Wal-Mart for about $14.99.

  77. Sarien is your friend.... by dmaxwell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://sarien.sourceforge.net/

    This is not an emulator. Those old Sierra games were developed with a system called AGI. Pretty much the same data files were used on all supported systems with an AGI interpreter tweaked to run the data files. Sarien is a GENERAL AGI interpreter and works quite well. As a matter of fact, I finished Leisure Suit Larry on my Debian box last week. I also tried out but haven't seriously played Kings Quest I and Space Quest with it as well. If you still have some old IBM PC versions of these games laying around (or aren't above some abandonware digging...) then Sarien will take care of you.

    One pisser is that it only has one save game slot but there is a workaround. The saved games can be copied and renamed elsewhere allowing arbitrarily many games to be saved albeit in a PITA fashion.

    Oh yeah, If you try this be sure to get the ID database file. It is a separate download for some reason and Sarien won't correctly run most games without it.

    Cheers!

  78. Re:Another rare game for NES... by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2

    I had a copy of Tengen's port of Gauntlet for the NES. It's probably worth even more than the Tetris game now.

  79. TRS-80 games... by wowbagger · · Score: 2

    Defense command - it actually played sounds out the cassette port ("PREPARE TO DIE, HUMAN").

    SpaceWar - ran in 4K total memory.

    Paddle Pinball - Not only was this a fairly cool little game, but I have a fond memory of playing it with a couple of friends. Bit was ahead, Darren was behind, but catching up. In the heat of the game, Darren says:

    I'm coming up on your ass.

    Bit, for once not being a bastard, decides to let him have a second chance

    Excuse me?

    Darren repeats his mistake:

    I'm coming up on your ass!

    Bit reverted to normal form:

    I know, and it's getting sticky

    By some strange co-incidence, Darren lost the ball shortly thereafter....

    1. Re:TRS-80 games... by wass · · Score: 2
      Defense Command, I loved that game. Well, actually no, it was okay. I liked Eliminator and Sea Dragon (I think those were the names) more. But Defense Command was pretty cool.

      Yeah, I had the speaker hack attached to my computer, so I definitely got to hear them say the "Prepare to die, human!" part. Didn't it only do that when you shoot that giant spider-looking mother ship that drops those little people that you protect off?

      It's amazing, when you think about it. That sound is entirely 1-bit. Who the hell would think that a single-bit DAC could make any sounds remotly resembling speech?

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    2. Re:TRS-80 games... by wowbagger · · Score: 2

      Remember - most modern CD players use a 1 bit DAC to play the sound - the trick is to get the sample rate up high enough that the quantization noise can be filtered out (i.e. a 1 bit DAC running at 2.048 Megasamples/sec with proper filtering is equal to or better than a 16 bit DAC running at 44.1 kilosamples/sec).

      But to think that a 1 MHz Z80 could drive it well enough....

  80. games with built-in editors by lightspawn · · Score: 2

    Excitebike was one of my favorite NES games, I wasted many an hour designing tracks and then slaghtering the computer players

    I remember spending a couple of hours with a friend on Mr. Robot (Atari 8-bit computers) to design a level that would use conveyer belts, magnets and trampolines to move Mr. Robot automatically around the screen collecting everything without human intervernsion.

    What other games had great editing abilities? I remember the pinball construction set (Remember the BBS area full of CGA pinball games, all alike?)

  81. Solomon's Key by Quill_28 · · Score: 2

    OK there was a NES game that I played called Solomon's Key or something like that.
    Did anyone else play this game, it turned out to be one of my favorites.

    Ever even hear of it?

    1. Re:Solomon's Key by EllF · · Score: 2

      I played the game, was never a big fan. You can find information on it here.

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  82. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Doom made two huge improvements that created the FPS genre we know now, non-grid based maps, and the DeathMatch (and put that term into our vocabularies). Those two things really paved the way for the mainstream popularity of the hundreds of FPS games released since.

    -B

  83. Re:Huh? by Kymermosst · · Score: 4, Informative

    Um, sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. The first Castle Wolfenstein game was made by id Software and was called "Wolfenstein-3D."

    Man! You had me laughing so hard I spit out of my nose. (Ewww!) I've got a copy of the original "Castle Wolfensten", written by Silas S. Warner, and published by MUSE. Your statement quoted above was a joke, right, or are you really that ignorant?

    I just booted it on my IIgs (it still works) and it says Copyright 1981. This is interesting, because all the screenshots and docs I find say Copyright 1983.

    Come a little closer so that I can smack you around with a clue-by-four.

    Oh, and look here if you want to see it for the Commodore 64: http://www.desktopgames.co.uk/wolf/castlewolfenste in.html

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  84. Re:Does anyone remember an old PC 2D space shooter by cdipierr · · Score: 2

    Silpheed did indeed rock. But it was produced by Sierra and only had Adlib & Roland MT-32 support (albeit beautiful sound...used on the MT-32 demo tape even), but no...

    The game I'm remembering came out a while later and had better graphics and I *think* was a shareware game by one of the bigger players at the time.

  85. M.U.L.E. by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I've probably got the first Zork game for Apple][ computers, back before they called it Zork I. It was simply Zork.

    I've tried a couple times to buy M.U.L.E. with the original packaging, manual, disk, etc. on eBay and see it regularly surpass $35. When accounting for inflation it's still lost some value, but I can't imagine an E.T. VCS cartridge doing better, what with 10 million or so of them disposed of. ("Just when did Earth get that second moon?")

    I've still got a stack of Apple magazines from 80-81 and a couple promotional posters, one for Sneakers and the other, IIRC, for Beer Run. Rest assured, they're safely stowed.

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  86. Re:Huh? by Gudlyf · · Score: 2
    The first Castle Wolfenstein game was made by id Software and was called "Wolfenstein-3D."

    Egads, I remember long nights in front of my Apple //e playing the original Castle Wolfenstein on my green monitor. *sigh*...the memories. I recall having to take out Nazi soldiers with your pistol (only weapon, IIRC) and steal their pass ("ANCE PASS!") to get around. If you weren't careful, they'd sound the alarm and all hell would break lose. I remember one night finally reaching Hitler and his crew sitting at a banquet table where I had to place a load of dynamite. I remember how triumphant I felt finally getting there.

    Incidently, a few years ago one of the more popular gaming web pages had a sound-byte trivia contest, and the sound byte of "HAIL!" from this very game was amoungst them.

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  87. Try These by TTMuskrat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Quite frankly I didn't see a game there that looked worth playing.

    Phantasy Star is a great rpg series by Sega. Phantasy Star 2, 3, and 4 were made for the Genesis (PS3 had you play characters and their children over three generations; PS4 was the largest game cartridge (96megs?) of its time and quite expensive when it came out - $99.99 anyone?). Phantasy Star Online was made for the Dreamcast. Phantasy Star Online 2 is out now for the Gamecube, and I think its also coming for the PS2 and Xbox as well. It was Sega's "answer" to the Final Fantasy Series and I always found it to be more entralling than the FFs.

    I have also heard nothing but great things about Radiant Silvergun. Never got the chance to try it out myself since I didn't have "connections" in Japan like many of those people on a BBS I frequented.

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  88. Teddy Boy? by docbrown42 · · Score: 2

    My mother is still addicted to Teddy Boy on the Sega Genesis. One of the only card-cartridge games I ever saw...

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  89. Heck I have an original Atari 2600 by Gudlyf · · Score: 2

    I was cleaning up my folks' basement earlier this year and found my Atari 2600, complete with joysticks and tons of carts. I have to wonder if this thing's worth anything out there.

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    1. Re:Heck I have an original Atari 2600 by phillymjs · · Score: 2

      Depends... if everything is in good shape you might be able to get a fair price on eBay for the whole thing, for someone who is just starting out collecting and wants the (presumably) large amount of commons you (likely) have.

      You might want to jot down the game titles and do a little Googling (be sure to check rec.games.video.classic) and see if you've got any hidden gems that are actually worth something by themselves.

      ~Philly

  90. Heh by wantedman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I own a copy of "Street Cop" an A+ rare Nintendo game, that people don't believe existed. Its not listed at Funco Land, its rarely listed anywhere. Here's why, its a powerpad game, you're a fat cop, and you have to chase the bad guys, with Uban Champ graphics...

    Only like a few hundred were made, and my mother drove 3 hours to get it...

    I still love that game...

  91. Arguments for opensource by AxelTorvalds · · Score: 2
    I don't know how many countless hours I lost to some games in the mid 1980s. I had these disks of shareware and freeware games, maybe 10 disks with about 20 games a piece on them. Willy the Worm, Janitor Joe, and several others. It would be awesome to see those games alive and well on Linux. I wouldn't be surprised if the source code was inaccessable anymore on some 5.25" disk that won't play on anything anymore, lost forever.

    Same thing with some of the early games. Star Con 2 went opensource recently and the original PC source is gone. Fortunately there is a workable base to use but I'm not sure that's the case with the early Sierra games and the early Epix games. Sierra is out of business, they aren't doing games any more. The legend will live on for ages. Too bad the games won't. There was some real craft to games back in the day, in retrospect I'm amazed that TestDrive one fit on a floppy disk.

    Look at what Doom and Quake did. The availability of that code changed the gaming world, the benchmark got raised alot and you can get Doom or quake on just about any platform around.

    It's not just games either. There have been times when I'd kill to have Bank Street Writer or Dr. Halo on Linux. I know there are better things today but damn if it wasn't simple and fast. Maybe I'm just rememeber the past in too good of terms but BSW fit on 2 disks (you only needed the first, it had a 60,000 word dictionary and all the basic editing and word processing you could use. Or 1-2-3...

  92. Re:Huh? by mgs1000 · · Score: 2

    Actually, your are describing "Return to Castle Wolfenstein", the second one in the series. Although both were awesome games. BTW, the original wolfenstein game had grenades, which were the only defense against the SS guards that wore bulletproof vests. (And the SS guys also chased you, while the regular Nazis just stayed in their room.

  93. Re:along the same lines by rogueuk · · Score: 2

    i remember that. played it at woolworth's (must have been about 3 or 4 years before they went out of business). was it really the top 10 of each store that got t-shirts? me and two of my brothers each got shirts..damn that was a good game

  94. Re:Does anyone remember an old PC 2D space shooter by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2

    Raptor. It was huge in the BBS world.

    http://www.3drealms.com/raptor/index.html

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  96. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by nojomofo · · Score: 2

    Does "Stellar 7" qualify as a FPS? Methinks it must, and was certainly around before 1991.

  97. Nude Super Mario Brothers???!!!??? by burgburgburg · · Score: 2
    I'm not going to be able to sleep for a week just on the mental image of that and that's your favorite?

    It doesn't help that I'm commingling the video characters and Bob Hoskins and John Leguizamo. Oh, that's bad.

  98. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by kwashiorkor · · Score: 2

    Hmm... I'm pretty sure that Midimaze for the Atari ST preceded Hovertank and Catacomb 3d. If not the first FPS it was probably the first networked multiplayer FPS (using the built in MIDI ports on the ST (hence the name)).

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  99. Herzog Zwei by Xandar01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Herzog Zwei is one of my favorite games of old times. I believe the real time strategy aspect of the game was the first of it's genre.

    One time (no not in band camp) I played a game head to head with a friend for four hours with neither of us doing much damage to each other's main base. Had to quit the game.

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  100. Re:Does anyone remember an old PC 2D space shooter by cdipierr · · Score: 2

    Raptor was nice, but that's a scroller (and it came out later I think)

    In this game, your ship was on the bottom of the screen and big gray "blast doors" would open to reveal the enemies upcoming. It was also purely set in space, no ground scenery.

  101. Re:Does anyone remember an old PC 2D space shooter by cdipierr · · Score: 2

    Nope, but looks interesting. Same idea, but there were no ground targets, etc.

  102. Bubble Bath Babes, the only NES game with nudity? by sludg-o · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, so it was only briefly, but if you finished Metroid quickly enough, the dude would strip and turn into a chick. I'm pretty sure I saw some nipples in the process too.

    Want to see it yourself? Enter "justin bailey" in passcode area (use 12 spaces to fill in the last 12 spaces) and you will start in very good shape. Just get the freeze gun, the power tank (the one closest to the start of the game) and go kill Mother Brain.

  103. I think that was my favorite game ever by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    I loved a lot of things about that game, how you'd have to randomly discover what controls would do for you in certain situations - like kicking a gaurd in "a most effective spot" to put it politley, or even better when you are trapped inside of the vehicle in the arena! Few moments in gaming have brought me such glee as that, though Half-Life came pretty close. I also loved the ending, possibly the best ending I've ever experienced in a game.

    I played it on an Atari ST though, not a PC... and it was still called "Another World" at that point as I remember.

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  104. Re:Never Grew up! by Megane · · Score: 2
    I set up mine again just last night. With the ultimate expansion box. A Z-80 in-circuit emulator with overlay RAM. Who needs multi-carts?

    Damn, Tomarc The Barbarian is one hell of a sucky game! Those stupid controllers just make it so much worse. Give me a Wico with leaf switches any day.

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  105. NES games with nudity by An+Ominous+Cow+Erred · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There were actually a fair number of games for the Famicom (the real name of the NES before the name was changed for the American market) in Japan that had nudity -- and even sex. The trick was that they were all for the Famicom Disk System, the floppy disk add-on, that wasn't released in the States.

    These games were sold without Nintendo's approval, but they are full, original games, not simple ROM hacks with changed graphics.

    If you do some searching (searching in Japanese helps :-) you can find quite a few adult games for the FDS for download.

    Anyway the article's list seems kind of U.S.-centric... It does list a couple of Japanese games, but there are in fact much harder games to find (that constitute a much greater prize) than those. ^_^ Well, aside from Phantasy Star for the Megadrive, which really IS rather hard to find.

    Quite a few ArcadeCD (as opposed to SuperCD) PCEngine games are rather rare. The Arcade Card games were among the best ports of many arcade games, (very notably among them, the best version of Strider).

    No matter what the origin though, rare games are expensive. ^_^ It's fun to find all the great hard-to-find classics (like Suchie Pai Remix for the Saturn, which undid the censorship of the original Suchie Pai port -- Suchie Pai Special, but was produced in far smaller numbers).

    1. Re:NES games with nudity by An+Ominous+Cow+Erred · · Score: 2
      Well, my response here is a bit late, but perhaps you'll see it if you check your posts on your info page like I do. ^^;;


      Anyway, yes, there is a Phantasy Star for the Megadrive -- it's even mentioned in the article this story links to. It's hard to find, and it was only released in Japanese. It's currently the best version of Phantasy Star available. However there are remakes of the original Phantasy Star games under development now for the PS1/PS2, and they are looking much nicer! (Not to be confused with the recent GBA versions, which are straight ports).


      Don't complain to me about not knowing Japanese. :-) I consider learning Japanese to be a requirement for all fans of console games, especially RPGs. Japan is the holy land for console RPGs and you need to learn it just like Jewish people should learn Hebrew. :-)

  106. Re:Bubble Bath Babes, the only NES game with nudit by JimRay · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought the "dude" in Metroid was always assumed to be a woman?

    Besides, most guys I know have nipples, too.

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  107. Re:few rare games i own by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 2

    Right, but beating the game wasn't all there was to it.

    There was the search for the secret message, the Yar, and of course the desire to get your "Adventure Points" as high as possible.

    As it turns out, the Yar is in fact in the game, and uncovering it gives you a higher rating. But I think I read one time that the secret signature was removed from production cartridges, so some parts of the game were cut out to prevent the player from ever being able to reach the score needed to unlock the "message".

    Still, there is a lot of little hidden crap in that game that most people don't know about since none of it is required to beat the game.

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  108. Attack Of The Mutant Zombie Flesh Eating Chickens by meehawl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the coolest, rarest game I ever saw an advert for was Attack Of The Mutant Zombie Flesh Eating Chickens From Mars (starring Zippo the Dog) for the old Spectrum (Timex-Sinclair 1000). The vapourware advert cassette cover art was amazing -- anyone who somehow still has a copy please scan it!

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  109. I have #2! Prototype of Poerlords... by TheGreenGoogler · · Score: 2

    My uncle used to work for Magnovox, and somehow got a prototype of this game for me... wonder what it is worth/how much it would fetch on the open market... this article can't hurt the situation! hehe

  110. Re:Bubble Bath Babes, the only NES game with nudit by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 5, Informative

    Samus Aran is a chick.

    There were no nipples.

    JUSTIN BAILEY
    ------ ------

    Is the code you are refering to. Caps are required, as are the dashes.

    Alternatively, this code can be used.

    y19ZVz YMRU83
    WB--00 0000Zg

    It starts one off in BRINSTAR with Ice Beam and leaves the Energy Tank three sections to the right and hidden in the ceiling just before the large wall that can only be passed using Maru Mari. Getting this tank will refill Samus's energy allowing the player go to straight up in Brinstar to Tourin and defeat Mother Brain. (The Zeebetites are already destroyed).

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  111. Re:Bubble Bath Babes, the only NES game with nudit by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 2

    I hate to reply to myself -- but I should clear one bit up...

    Samus Aran --IS-- a Chick, as I said.

    Defeating the game once in a set amount of time will have her remove her power suit.
    Defeating it again without the power suit will end the game with her in a Bikini.

    Using the codes provided will allow one to play her without the Power Suit and start the game with enough time remaining for the player to get the final energy tank, trek up to mother-brain, and still see the Bikini ending.

    There are no nipples.

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  112. Vectrex by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 2

    They didn't even mention the vectrex - best console of all time! I have one and almost all the carts, and the light pen and 3d imager. Them puppies bring in decent $$ if you sell them.

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  113. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by phillymjs · · Score: 2

    There was nothing more fun than smacking the computer players into an oil patch or off the track.

    Spoken like someone who's never played the later games in the Road Rash series (on Genesis, or even better, 3DO). Don't get me wrong, I liked Excitebike a lot at one time-- but taking a pipe, chain, or nunchucks to the head of one of your fellow riders, or kicking him/her into the path of an oncoming car, is much more enjoyable. :-)

    ~Philly

  114. Jumpman by JMZero · · Score: 2

    I surely hope you played the original Jumpman (try it on a C64 emulator for best experience), to which Jumpman Jr. was sort of a less-inspired sequel. Amazing game.

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  115. Demon's Forge! by BTWR · · Score: 2

    Anyone remember this game??? I think it was on the Apple ][e, and it rocked! I used to love playing it, esp the part where if you cursed it brought you to a mirrored-room that said "You shouldn't've said that - there are mirrors all around!"

  116. Re:Cannot remember the company, but the game ... by phillymjs · · Score: 2

    This was available for the Atari 2600, and called "Circus Atari." The Sears-branded version was called simply "Circus." It was a paddle game, kind of fun.

    I'm sure there's a 2600 emulator floating around the net somewhere, and a ROM dump of every cart ever made for the Atari wouldn't make a dent in a Zip disk's capacity.

    ~Philly

  117. Out of this World by BTWR · · Score: 2

    Holy crap that game ruled! It had a sequel - didn't it?

    1. Re:Out of this World by BTWR · · Score: 2

      Flashback

      Yup. That was it. It was out for the genesis. And OOTW was on the SNES...

    2. Re:Out of this World by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

      And they both started life on the old pc :) God, great games those; excelent graphics, mocap better than Prince of Persia, and (still somewhat a rarity for games) a great, compelling story...for both games.

      Damn, I'm getting misty eyed now :)

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  118. Zero Wing! by moosesocks · · Score: 2

    All your collectibles are belong to zero wing!

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  119. For what it's worth, I own Nekketsu Street Basket. by Rahga · · Score: 2

    And there's the auction I won it in. I'm not sure where it ranks with some of those, but this is "rarest" games in the article, not "most valuable"... This one is a mix... one of the most valuable famicom games, one of the rarest official famicom games, and definitely one of the best. It had a production run that was cut short by the death of the 8 bit systems and possibly money trouble at technos. Cost me a bit over $100 (cart only) to get it in, and even more to ship, but it was definitely worth it.

    As far as value goes, in the Famicom department, it is beat out by the gold Punch-Out cart, a few RPGs, Metal Slader Glory, handful of others.

    As far as some of those "rare" non-Nintendo-authorized games... my opinion is that all of them sucked, and I don't care how rare they are, I wouldn't want to play or own them.

    BTW, the Nekketsu games are the same line that "River City Ransom" and "Super Dodge Ball" came from. This was the last NES Nekketsu game.

    Here's a javascript thingy I made for the passwords in the game. Also, check my site for Nekketsu Kakutou Densetsu info, and stuff you can use to rewire your Four Score to make it Famicom compatible ;) ...

  120. Thor Aackerlund!!! by BTWR · · Score: 2

    I remember that guy! Wow! I even remember him advertising those non-NES-sanctioned games! I remember wondering why the hell he'd endorse those crappy games. Oh well...

  121. Whee.... I gotta reply.... by Rahga · · Score: 2

    First of all, "Spot" was quite a nice version of Attaxx for the NES. If you are talking about the other 7-up games, though, I'm with ya! :)

    On Excitebike, though... we got hosed. I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be a battery feature save, because the Famicom Disk System version is almost completely different. "Vs. Excitebike" (the name is only an homage to Vs. unisystem, I'm not talking about an arcade rom) featured a 2 player mode and the ability to save up to, if I recall, 10 tracks, each one with thier own spot on the disk.

  122. Why Collectible? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Games are software.
    Software is bits.
    Bits are infinitely copyable.

    Why is any game rare? If it is rare, it must mean few people are copying it. If few people are copying it, it must mean it's not popular. If it's not popular, chances are better than fair that it sucks.

    I could give a ratfuck about the original packaging.

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    1. Re:Why Collectible? by oGMo · · Score: 3
      Why is any game rare? If it is rare, it must mean few people are copying it. If few people are copying it, it must mean it's not popular. If it's not popular, chances are better than fair that it sucks.

      This isn't necessarily the case. While (as your next statement attests to) you may not care about original packaging, some do.

      There are games that are quite good that are quite difficult to find even copies of. Some of these are due to the fact there is a small release, and a great game goes unnoticed, whether it's from a small no-name publisher and it's not hyped by the media, or what. It happens.

      Also, there is bit decay. The attitude that digital media and information does not die is a wrong one. The copy on that floppy disk you made 5 years ago you just haven't played in awhile may now be corrupt. That dye on that CDR you burned may have faded. You might have forgotten about when your hard disk crashed. (And worse, you might have lost access keys or the original hardware to play it.)

      All in all, this makes actually collecting games pretty fun. It's mostly affordable (their top game listed is $6500, which compared to collecting antiques or something is nothing), and finding an original copy of a game, with manuals and packaging, can provide quite a challenge.

      Heck, there are games I have a hard time finding that are only a few years old: Dragon Warrior VII (PSX) and Suikoden 2 (PSX) you have to hunt for. Stores don't have them new or used.

      Which brings us to the third possibility: games made in limited run that people like and aren't willing to get rid of.

      You might be able to find copies of these someplace, but that's not exactly legal nor is it as much fun. Although, at some point it becomes more important to preserve the game than worrying about legality or packaging.

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    2. Re:Why Collectible? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2
      There are games that are quite good that are quite difficult to find even copies of. Some of these are due to the fact there is a small release, and a great game goes unnoticed, whether it's from a small no-name publisher and it's not hyped by the media, or what. It happens.


      I know this very well; some of my favorite games are ones that never seemed to be very popular. That's why I said "chances are better than fair" -- that wasn't sarcasm, I really do think that there are a decent number of good games that never got a chance in the market due to bad positioning, bad timing, or fickle audiences who only eat what they've gotten used to being spoon fed.

      As for bit rot, there's good backup schemes and hardware emulation. There's some specialty hardware you can't duplicate easily, but most games don't require it. Even if your backups fail, the bits very likely still exist somewhere on the internet where you can download them for free, if illegally.
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  123. Re:Huh? by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

    So which one was Escape from Castle Wolfenstein, for the apple? I can still hear the digitised speech, crackling away :)

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  124. Re: JEEZ (admit you're wrong already) by pjrc · · Score: 2
    Okay, god, jeez, stop jumping all over me. SORRRRRRRY.

    Ok, you're "sorrrrrrry" (but in all caps). Doesn't sound so apologetic, does it? You've got lots of reasons why you're not actually wrong, despite clearly being wrong factually.

    I had no idea that this many Slashdot readers were so old. :P

    Reason #1: Those who pointed out your mistake are "old".

    After looking at some of those links though, it looks like those first two games were not id Software games? So why should they be considered "official" Wolfenstein games then?

    Reason #2: The original game was made by Br0derbund, and since you don't really believe you're wrong (despite clear factual evidence), you'll now attempt to substitute the word "official" for "original". Yes, it's a desparate attempt, as the parent posts spoke of "original", but maybe, just maybe you can avoid being wrong.

    I guess I'll always consider the first one to be Wolf 3D, since it's from id Software and is the one I played as a little kid.

    Reason #3: It doesn't matter what the facts really are. It doesn't matter that the plain, undeniable truth might be. Because you played id's 3D version as a "little kid", you'll always consider it the first one. Truth and undisputable facts be damned.

    But there are apparently two that are older, whether they are "real" Wolfenstein games depends on your point of view I guess!

    Reason #4: If all else failes, as in reason #2, attempt to re-write history, this time subsitution the word "real" for "original".

    As you said in the beginning "stop jumping all over me"... perhaps you should step back and look at yourself. I'm "jumping all over" you, not because you were wrong, but because even after being proven wrong, you post this crap claiming that even though you are factually wrong, it's somehow not so wrong, and you're "sorrrrrrry", yet not actually in the least bit sorry.

    Since you're too young to remember 8-bit computers, you're probably also too young to have watched the old television sitcom "Happy Days". Briefly, "Fonzie" was one of the main characters who was ultra "cool". He road a bike, had girls hanging all over him, etc. In one famous episode, Fonzie was wrong about something, and he couldn't admit it. Every time he tried to, he'd say "I was wr, wr, wrrr" and couldn't say the word "wrong". It was quite humorous. Here's a page with a brief summary in the first paragraph, and then transitions onto a very christian-oriented sermon, which could do you some good.

    Next time, when you respond, rather than telling people to get off your back, and then make a feable attempt to deny that you could have been wrong, try something like this:

    What you SHOULD have posted

    It looks like I spoke too soon. Kymermosst was right that there was a 2-D Wolfenstein game in the 80's, long before I played when I played id's 3D game, thinking it was the original.

    I didn't realize people would react so strongly. I'm sorry I provoked such a reaction with the words "Um, sorry but you don't know what you're talking about", when in fact I was the one who didn't know what he was talking about.

    This probably won't be the last time I'm wrong about something, but I'll try to make it the last time I fly off the handle like that without even investigating the facts first.

    Had you posted something along those line, many people including me would not be "jumping all over" you. I hope you can learn to understand this... if not today, perhaps when you grow older and have an opportunity to mature a bit.

  125. Tengen's Tetris for NES by Vegan+Pagan · · Score: 2

    I'm surprised this article doesn't mention Tengen's Tetris.

    This game represents the legal battles Nintendo fought with Atari, and it's better than Nintendo's version. "Game Over" by David Scheff explains it in depth, but basically, Atari thought they got the rights to make Tetris for the NES, but Nintendo actually got it, so although Atari's version (published under the Tengen label) was superior (various two player modes, better difficulty curve), Nintendo's version was legal. Before the court decision, Atari managed to sell about 100,000 copies. Afterwards, they had to recall the other several hundred thousand and destroy them.

    About the same time, Nintendo and Atari were also fighting over the legality of the NES's "lockout chip", which let Nintendo create artificial regions, fee and censor 3rd parties. Atari stole Nintendo's "10NES" (lockout chip) patent from the patent office and made their own unlicensed NES games that circumvented it. Nintendo sued and I believe won, not because Atari was making unlicensed games but because they stole a patent to do it. Other companies, such as Camerica and Color Dreams made games with reverse engineered lockout disablers.

  126. Sorry... by shepd · · Score: 2

    There's far more Nintendo games with nudity than that. First thing that comes to mind is a nudity hack for SMB.

    I haven't even gotten started, though. Here's more.

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  127. SMAX by xX_sticky_Xx · · Score: 2

    Alpha Centauri: Alien Crossfire, the Alpha Centauri expansion pack is exceedingly rare and it's only 3 or so years old. I have never played it but only because I can't get my hands on a copy of it. Ebay always comes up dry and local video game stores never have used copies of it. I don't know why there were so few copies made, but demand for the game still far outstrips supply.

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  128. Re:Does anyone remember an old PC 2D space shooter by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

    You have to be talking about Xenon...and probably Xenon 2, at that. It scrolled vertically, and had a shop where you could buy upgrades. A truly great shmup :)

    Bitmap brothers, I beleive. They also did the great Speedball 2 (they seem to be good at sequals) and are working on Speedball Arena...which I'm really looking forward to, but there hasn't been any news on it for a year or so.

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  129. Re:Extension by Mupp252 · · Score: 2, Informative

    There was this special promotion. I believe it was called "The Star Fox Weekend" where Nintendo set up booths all over the US to see if gamers could beat Star Fox in 15 minutes. After this contest was over the game carts, with the special timers, were available to Nintendo Power subscribers for purchase. I, sadly, was unable to get my hands on one.

    Same concept as the number 1 cart in this article, just different platform and a little more recent.

  130. E.T. is not impossible to finish by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2

    I beat E.T. plenty of times. It's not impossible.

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  131. Re:Favorite BBS Text Games! by benzapp · · Score: 2

    Barney Splat! all the way. That was the only door game I had on my system. That game fucking ruled.

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  132. Re:Sierra games! - Arthur C. Clarke's RAMA by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2
    Hard game - Still haven't finished it. It makes you learn Binary and Octal!! (For a musician who's only messed with Basic, that's pretty rough.) I got through that part and was hollering...w000t!

    Got the save games around somewhere...

  133. Ultima: Escape from Mt. Drash Vic20 game by dayeight · · Score: 2

    http://home.hiwaay.net/~rgregg/ultima/collectibles /Title_Other.html#MtDrash

    http://members.aol.com/barbgame/Drash/drash.html

    May not be a good game, but it took years for the fairly massive ultima community to find one, and Sierra even released it!

  134. Informative? by TheFrood · · Score: 2

    No, this post is (+5, Funny)

    TheFrood

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  135. MOD PARENT UP by TheFrood · · Score: 2

    The Underdogs is an indispensible resource for those who enjoy retro PC gaming. Highly recommended.

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  136. Re:Note that 'Collectable' don't exactly mean 'Goo by subsolar2 · · Score: 2

    'Chase the Chuckwagon?' WTF I would have thrown that game away with other favorites like 'Avoid the Noid' and '7-up Spot'. Seriously...

    I actually liked the 7-up Spot game, but I'm a bit weird, and wish they would make a 3D version.
  137. The Material World by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    You're right, the data itself can be copied indefinitely, but that has no bearing on its rarity, since most of these games have distinct physical aspects that can't be duplicated, or at least not quite so easily. Sure, you can MAME Pitfall all day long, but you'll never have the physical cartrige, box or manual that came with it. You got that CD-R of Metal Gear Orta, but you don't have the gold etched art CDROM it was original pressed to. It's not the data itself that determines rarity or how much/little it's played. It's the stuff you can't duplicate. You could give a ratfuck about the original packaging, but that's what makes it unique from the thousands of ROMs being played. For everybody else, it's just nostalgia.

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  138. Re:OT but... by freeweed · · Score: 2

    he was made to drink hemlock tea. Hemlock, when ingested, causes the body to go into spasms so violent that eventually the spine snaps, killing the victim

    I can't think of a more thorough way of banishing an individual from society. Look it up, it's effectively what they considered it.

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  139. Re:Another rare game for NES... by funkhauser · · Score: 2

    Tengen Tetris isn't nearly as rare as some other NES games. While it's a cornerstone for a good NES collection, it really isn't that rare, but does sell well because everyone thinks it's really rare and it really is the best version of Tetris for the NES. The Panesian games mentioned in the article are significantly harder to find.

  140. Re:Another rare game for NES... by funkhauser · · Score: 2

    Tengen Gauntlet is pretty common, both licensed and unlicensed versions. To find out just how rare the games in your collection are, check the NES Rarity List.

  141. Re:Galactix. by cdipierr · · Score: 2

    You, sir, rock my world. That is indeed the game I was referring to, and trust me the music/effects rocked (for the time) if you had the right card. Thanks for all the help.

  142. Re:KYRANDIA! by NeuroKoan · · Score: 2

    Aaaahhhhhhh.... I still have 1 and 3 (I never got 2, I just never had money at the right time).

    I should go find them and play them again. Damn they were fun. And no, I won't sell either of them to you : )

    I think they are right next to my old "Sam & Max Hit the Road" disks...

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  143. Re:Huh? by bryan1945 · · Score: 2

    I think that was the first one. And how scary was it when the SS guy would storm on screen and scream at you to stop?! Much more fun than Wolf 3D.

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  144. Alice for Mac by johnrpenner · · Score: 2


    written by Steve Capps - a nice 3D figure of alice moves around on a chessboard being chased by chess pieces. make a wrong move, and she falls through a hole in the board. the 'menubar' is a 'cheshire cat'.

    came out in 1983 for the original macintosh, in a nice little 'book volume' which contained the floppy disk.

    cheers
    john

  145. NWC by Cire · · Score: 2

    I know... there's already 600 comments on here, and no one is going to read this. BUT. I have spent a better part of the workday trying to play this game. I'm sure I'm not the only one who was a 13 year old kid at the time and has wanted to play it ever since. Hopefully someone will come back and read this and it will help them play the game.

    The rom is available online. I'm not going to help you. Use google, you'll find it.

    Once you do, use FCE Ultra, it seems to be the only emulator that is capable of dealing with this ROM.

    Cire