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Toms Hardware Reviews 65 CPU's, Past & Present
An anonymous reader writes "Toms Hardware has an interesting review of 65 processors ranging from 100 MHz to 3066 MHz. They spent more than 300 hours benchmarking and recording the scores. Worth a quick glance, especially for the Unreal Tournament 2003 scores on the 100 MHz pentium!" CT: Yeah yeah. It's a dupe. Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me.
cool ;-)
Denken hilft.
Read Slashdot much?
Wow, a same day dupe! heh
Oh yeah...
Damn! There's been a change in the Matrix!
It's not that good a review.
Everyone repost quick! Lets reduce Slashdot to one story!
Omnis amans amens
All my slashdot articles are appearing doubled, there must be something wrong with my video card.
My rights don't need management.
Lordy lord, *two stories later*, how DO you guys do it???? Enquiring minds want to know!
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -- Goethe
wow, this is the first time I've seen the dupe post on the front page with the original. Nice job.
"Hi, I'm CmdrTaco, I don't read slashdot, I just post new stories. I don't really know why I have other editors, as I usually get around to finding most everything important on my own - though I might be a bit slower."
I don't think I have ever seen a report happen so fast in my slashdot existence!
Just one story seperating them.
All I can say is wow!
so we get more comments on this one than the other one. People get so confused and itll be a lot of fun.
I must have gotten really messed up last night, cuz I'm still seeing double!
Jeremy Baumgartner
you can get more info here
Ok, It's a lame joke... but withing a really short time of the first one PROVES they dont even look at the frontpage.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
A dupe with only one intervening article, this has to be a record? Next will come the side by side dupe, and finally as a crowning achievement /. editors will manage the heretofore deemed impossible, dupe within a dupe where an article will be a duplicate of itself. Beyond that of course will require time travel/visions of the future, the editors will manage to post a dupe for an article has they haven't actually posted yet, but will in the future.
There's this really cool website you should check out for your news, http://slashdot.org/ - It's a great place to point your browser to occasionally to read.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
Fastest duped article ever?
-Thomas
The Slashdot Sandwich
Take a tasty filling of Gameboy Advanced SP information sandwiched between two two layersof duplicated Tom's Hardware links.
Trolling is a art,
Since this article is clearly a dupe, I say we open up the floodgates to whatever we feel like posting!
Anyone who has anything to say about the article should just go post in the original story.
So, without further ado....
TACO!!!!! IT'S A DUPE!!!!
Toms Hardware has an interesting review of 65 processors ranging from 100 MHz to 3066 MHz.
Oh, wait. My bad.
Adequate speed (Score:5, Insightful)
by Harald74 (40901) on Tuesday February 18, @07:27AM (#5324869)
While one person may be perfectly content with an old Pentium 133 system that stores stamp club membership details in a DOS program in "real-time mode",
Use the correct tool for the job; if a pen and notebook or binder will do, use it. No need to use hours and hours to set up a membership database if your club comprises 20 members and have a meeting every first Thursday of the month...
--
--
A)bort, R)etry or S)elf-destruct?
"I only speak the truth"
Karma: null(Mostly affected by an unassigned variable)
I've always thought it would be a funny and easy way to karma whore by taking the top rated posts of the previous duped story and posting them as your own. But in this case the memory of the previous story would just be too fresh in peoples heads.
In Republican America phones tap you.
1) Start geek website
/.
2) Post dupes
3) ????
4) Profit!!
In Soviet Russia the dupes post YOU!
Someone is obviously smoking crack at
I think I know why we see so many dupes these days. What do you do when you're bored at work? Of course, let's check slashdot...
Now, what do you think happens when a /. editor gets bored?
Just repost the content of the article. It's not like people read it anyway :)
Granted it's dead now, but they once stood much like AMD today as a alternative to Intel CPUs. They even started the trend to call CPUs not by its clock (MHz), but by it's "P-rating", roughly how it benchmarked against Intel CPUs.
Will somebody please tell me what the Slashdot 'editors' actually do all day.
I'm sure many Slashdot readers' jobs make us feel time is repeating itself without Slashdot helping.
For a reasonable fee per story, I am offering my services to the editors of /. as a proofreader and duplicate checker. Additionally, I will assist if necessary (at a negotiable hourly rate) in adding code to automatically send the draft article blurbs to my wireless device. I am unable to proofread overnight (I have to sleep sometime), so that will have to be covered by another shift, or written off as "happy slashdot error time."
I cannot guarantee 100% error correction, but I will stake my job on significantly decreased rates of grammar and spelling mistakes, and far fewer duplicate postings.
I would also like a T-shirt that says "I work for slashdot".
Please, for the sake of your readers, hire me. I want to help!
Only 63 more duplicates to go!
Maybe it was an experiment.
To ensure perfect aim, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target
Quite possibly Taco needs to upgrade from the DOS running 486 so that his page loads a little faster next time. Can we suggest this helpful article? http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030217/index.htm l
is the screen on your new laptop?
Disclaimer: I have no knowledge of the editor's daily routines and how busy/not-busy they may be. However, I find it difficult to believe that it is a difficult task to browse through submissions and check for dupes.
This issue is not new. This issue reflects very poorly on the professionalism of the site or lack thereof.
So the message that I'm getting is that they simply don't care about it. To me, that is sad.
Praying for the end of your wide-awake nightmare.
OTOH let's start a discussion about all meta discussions that have occurred. OTOH I could just bitch that stories I submit never get accepted. *grumble grumble*
And the Slashdot editors wonder why they aren't considered "serious" publishers and journalists... ;)
All about me
Does that mean the website gets double /.ed? OMG that would be painful.
Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.
Hoepfully they've got it out of their system already... I'd say that's an improvement.
People will pass up steak once a week, for crap every day.
Now Tom's gonna get double-slashdotted...
If you can't see the value in jet powered ants you should turn in your nerd card. - Dunbal (464142)
Let me guess, you guys are benchmarking the Pentium 100 for quickest repost?
Get paid to code OSS
THG should benchmark how quickly you can dupe a story with those CPUs.
"The Pentium 100 managed a painful 48 hours between dupes. However, the P4 managed it in just 30 minutes. That's nearly 100 times as fast! Don't you wish you had such a powerful system? Our advertisers do."
How about you guys create a discussion group to toss your story ideas around in?
Bill
bamph
Early Tuesday a rather strange duplicate posting was the only outward sign of the rising tensions between Hemos and Taco. The spat began when Hemos polished off the remains of the morning coffee before Taco had had any. When Taco remonstrated with him, Hemos was reported to have said: "serves you right for being late for work Rob." Eyewitnesses report that Taco stormed off and with hands shaking from coffee deprivation proceded to make another pot muttering something about wreaking a terrible revenge...
Is this the fastest dupe ever or what? Maybe Taco has one of those 100mhz PCs :)
I fought the corporate America, and the corporate America bought the law.
Or the 114th time.
Toms doesnt seem to like the double slahsdotting! :o)
This must be the Slashdot version of double buffering... post the same story twice to ensure smooth, flicker free updates!
In Soviet Rush, today's Tom Sawyer gets high on you.
bash$ lynx -dump http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/18/131250 &threshold=5 > original_story; /usr/local/slashbot/bin/extract-posts original_story $i > highly_modded_post; do /usr/local/slashbot/bin/post-comment < highly_modded_post ; $i=$[i+1]; done
;^)
bash$ $i=1; while
Watches karma roll in
... Tom's Hardware found that using an original Pentium I with floating point errors for your web server would cause a mathematical error in common forum code and could lead to duplication of stories ...
Is Anandtech going to do a review of all RAM since 30pin SIMMs? Is HardOCP going to do a review of every Case Mod since the Mid-Tower? I know I am going to do a review on every Hard Drive since the 10Mb I had on my Tandy 1000. My conclusion: they've gotten bigger since then.
I knew that weather could affect people's behavior and perception, but WOW!!!!
:)
I think I want to find out what happened to the Green Card Lawyers after this one.
"...the shortest distance between two points may be straight line, but it is by no means the most interesting."
... who got stuck with the 100 Mhz CPU!
Responsibilities:
- Review content and decide what goes on the front page.
- Check for spelling and grammatical errors.
Indeed, no site can resist a double slashdotting...
I don't get it. Why did they leave out the Pentium Pro?
You are correct. It's a duplicate post to a duplicate story. I will continue to post it in duplicate stories until they hire me.
Wouldn't hiring a competent subeditor pay for itself by making people more likely to subscribe? It's a bit insulting to your subscribers to be running a commercial site with the same editorial standards as alt.spank.tonya.harding, isn't it?
I don't know what issues they may have been having, but last week, refreshes were taking forever. I didn't ever have a link fail on me, but some were taking up to 5 minutes to load.
Anybody else experience that same delays?
For those that would die defending it, Freedom
has a sweet taste that the protected will never know.
It's funny how they can post two stories about a comparison of old processors and yet there's been nothing about IBM's dropping of itanium which hit the press last week.
Stick Men
So, that makes it 130 CPU's reviewed in total, no?
Sig ?
foreach (@current_stories) { /$current_link/ {
if
print "Warning! This story has been posted already!!!!";
}
}
Live web cams
Don't click the 'submit' button twice.
Yeah, no kidding!
I just bought 50 computers like the above, for about $75(for all of them). And you right they would fine win98 machines or older x-boxs. And freebsd/linux servers. Now I just have to figure how wants to buy a couple, before my wife kills me. :-)
Internet Browser Help:
The Refresh Button: This button is used to load a current copy of the web page you have displayed. You may use this button on fast breaking news sites to make sure you have the current copy of the web page and are not missing new stories.
Alternatively, you may use it to avoid Redundant moderations on Slashdot for posting the same story twice in the space of two hours...
SB
It's old. The more humans I meet, the more I like my cats. At least they are honest.
the first place, they would have done something about them by now..ergo they don't care, or they enjoy posting duplicates
------ Work is so much easier when you don't
The test was obviously run on dual-processor systems.
Lisp is the Tengwar of programming languages.
There you go. I've undercut you all. Yay for capitalism.
Use ISO 8601 dates [YYYY-MM-DD]
Assuming that the plural, possessive, and plural possessive forms of acromyms follow the same form as for ordinary nouns, then the use of an apostrophe depends on the usage. For the plural form, of course no apostrophe should be used. There can be an apostrophe in CPUs if you are referring to some property belonging to the CPU, as in "The CPU's instructions are well designed."
If you are describing a property beloning to a group of CPUs then the largely ignored plural possessive form of "CPUs'" should likely be used. Usually reworking the sentence structure can eliminate the need for this form.
Now lets discuss the combined slashdot editors' frightful confusion regarding homonyms, shall we?
Running all these CPU's in Windows XP can hardly be considered a reasonable test. I would be willing to bet that stamp collector with his 133 MHz DOS machine has a faster boot time than the 3.04 GHz machine running Windows XP.
Granted. I don't see how any word processor can justifiably require a 1.6Ghz processor and 512Mb of RAM. In fact, I think Office 97 on a Pentium Pro 200 was perfectly usable in it's day and is just as usable now, but that's not the whole story. There's a whole plethora of applications which are now commonplace, which weren't even considered feasible ten (?) years ago. I can remember a piece of DOS software on my old 286 which displayed JPEG images. That was it. It took noticeable time just to decode the file, and then sample it down to 320x200 to display on a normal VGA monitor. Nowadays, we don't even consider the decoding process when viewing JPGs.
:)
There's other similar applications - DivX movies, strong encryption, even MP3 audio - which we now take for granted 'cos we've got so much horsepower to play with that processing overhead is no longer an issue. Now we're getting into the realm of PVRs, digital camcorders, encoding real-time video straight into DivX - applications which appeal to ordinary home users, and which require some *serious* megahertz. The games industry provides a convenient milestone - anyone can tell that Quake III looks better than the original Wolfenstein 3D, but more importantly, they can see that they're fundamentally the same thing. It's a lot harder to compare modern video editing software with that of ten years ago, because ten years ago the only people editing movies on their home PCs were masochistic millionaires.
Rather than focusing on all those wasted MHz driving more and more bloated word-processors, consider some of the things we just *couldn't* do with slower hardware, and wonder what we're going to be taking for granted ten years from now.
Press release:
Slashdot founder CmdTaco, issued a statement about his er.. frequent use of the slashdot frontpage:
-The last hours I have used zero minutes reading the frontpage.
Melius mori in libertate quam vivere in servitute.
CT: Yeah yeah. It's a dupe. Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me.
Funny that - perhaps people get the idea that you won't look at their mails, seeing as you can't even be bothered to read your own goddamn website...
I can't believe you actually get paid to do this...
Scramble them up, and scribble one down... /.
One hundred and two reposts on
You can't handle the truth.
...... ttuurrnn ooffff llooccaall eecchhoo!!
if Tom's did a comparison of other cpus vs intel x86 cpus for the last 10 or 15 years.
I mean great we have a line up of x86 cpus and what they can and can not do, but it would be interesting to c benchmarks comparing lets say motorola vs intel vs ibm cpus
Yeah, I suggest they could repost the story with correct syntax.
Signatures are for stupids.
They should use all those CPUs and make a render farm... then benchmark it and see how it works...heh.. :P
Rob
-----
Got something on your mind?
Post it.. we want to hear it!
www.bboombotz.com
Yeah yeah. It's a dupe. Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me.
We've come to accept the fact that you're a lost cause. We're reclaiming the resources for project "educate Taco" and using them in project "timothy de-taco-fication".
Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me.
What would be the point of that? He's shown that he doesn't read the site, and doesn't care about the ramifications.
People who disagree with you are not automatically evil, greedy, or stupid.
OK, slashdot has the most sophisticated moderation system I've ever seen with hundreds of users contributing to the moderation of articles every day, just to make sure we only have to read the comments that are worth reading.
:)
Only slashdot admins then go and post the entire article twice within minutes - thus undoing the work of hundreds of moderators.
I wish there was a way to moderate the *parent* article down:
-1 Flamebait
-1 Redundant
etc...
All this moderation, but they can't spare ONE person to say if the article is a dupe or not. Notice how slashdot is the *ONLY* news site that has this dupe problem... This is mainly caused because a lot of the articles aren't news - they're from months ago, so the editors need to have a good memory.
Nick...
"CT: Yeah yeah. It's a dupe. Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me."
Oh, I *see*. It's OUR fault. Gotcha.
Moron.
Hey spacklewit, you can't be bothered to read your own website, why would we think you'd bother to read your email too?
Hokey statistics and ancient misconceptions are no match for a good thought in your head, kid!
Come off it. I don't see where you get off bitching because nobody told you that you posted a dupe of a story two stories down. I mean, had you taken a cursory glance at your own site you probably would have seen this story.
You know, if you didn't want us to pay for this, I wouldn't even care. But I cannot believe that you are bitching at paying customers because of your lack of editing. What gives? As I've said before this site has editorial practices slightly worse than that of your average grade school newspaper. I think it's really insulting that you would expect anyone to pay for this.
Let me up the ante here. You editors are pretty tech-savvy, right? I just used Mozilla's oft-praised tabbed browsing feature to open another tab and look up the post I linked above. Now, when you are approving submissions, how hard would it be to have a second tab open to make sure you aren't posting a dupe. I mean, look, you guys approve at most 20 stories a day. Between the four or five (estimate) active editors, that's.. well.. not a lot. It wouldn't be hard to simply say "when I'm ready to approve a story I'll make sure there aren't any dupes." This kind of work wouldn't take long at all, and combined with a little editing would go a long way towards getting some new subscribers. I, for one, pledge to subscribe when the editorial quality of this site improves. That means, basically, that every other story can't have glaring grammatical or spelling errors, and that dupes are practically nonexistant.
I realize that everybody makes mistakes, myself included, but the number of mistakes from people who are professionals (and you are professionals if you do this for a living -- you do) is just too much to be tolerated -- or at least paid for.
you can take the road that takes you to the stars...
All we need now is two dupes in a row and we'll have a full house ...
Avantslash - View Slashdot cleanly on your mobile phone.
Nor the NexGen Nx586, which had 256K on chip cache two years before the Pentium Pro.
They have the K5 on there, which was AMD's bastardization of the Nx586 after they acquired NexGen.
NexGen was the first company to reverse engineer an Intel processor and produce a compatible version. They had some really fine people at that company, and it was their design work which brough us the AMD K6 and Athlon processors. Its unfortunate they don't get a lot of credit. No one seems to remember how terrible AMD used to be. Their acquisition of NexGen was one last ditch effor to do something other make 386 and 486 processors.
I don't read or respond to AC posts
"CT: Yeah yeah. It's a dupe. Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me."
:)
Why should we email you when we can post in the story thread and gain karma?
(or lose it)
SB
It's old. The more humans I meet, the more I like my cats. At least they are honest.
I built PC's for a company for about 6 months.... I left just as the Pentium launched... (I remember because the first P60 we got had about a 2 inch heatsink glued on straight from the factory)
I am surprised they didn't include the AMD 386-DX40 in the benchmarks. I built a ton of those things..... I remember them being so popular because they were so much cheaper than the Intel.
Anyone else in here own one?
Ever feel like you are driving the getaway car?
so what? who cares what a pentium one is like compared to a p4 3ghz?
>Yeah yeah. It's a dupe. Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me.
I mean, it was that obvious it is nearly funny.
nosig today
Nah. Not really.
+++ They all asked, "Are you then the Son of God?" He (Jesus) replied, "You are right in saying I am." (Luke 22:70)
CT: Yeah yeah. It's a dupe. Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me.
What the hell is wrong with you?
You call yourselves editors, and yet you do not edit the stories.
You call yourselves editors, and apparantly do not even read your own frontpage. If the readers are supposed to check for duplicates, you could be replaced with a very small script.
You do not listen to your readers. (How many have asked for some script that checks if a link has been posted in earlier stories?)
And you expect people to pay a subscription fee? You must have smoked more crack than the average moderator.
It doesn't hold water. They only have to check for dupes just before they would have actually posted a story. There's no need to check for duplicates of a story you're going to reject. So the workload depends on the rate at which stories go up, which has remained fairly constant.
Yeah yeah. It's a dupe. Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me.
Yeah, cause, you know, we're Slashdot editors.
Do people really even subscribe to Slashdot? Doesn't seem worth it.
Not All Who Wander Are Lost
You're right. Tockow whining about no one letting him know is almost as dumb as continuing to read a site with such poor editorial practices. Take your custom elsewhere!
"He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
"Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me. " ...uh, oh yeah, I guess if you read slashdot you wouldn't have posted it in the first play. Way, to make us look dumb.
We all just figured you'd read all our "dupe" replys
Waaaa waaaa, the people who I ignore as much as I can and who pay my salary refuse to do my job for me, waaa, waaa
If I had a breif spell of insanity and thought that Slashdot editors gave a crap about what anyone thought, or even for a moment believed that the editors listen to input, yeah, I might've written a mail. But it seems that everything else that people write Slashdot about, suggestions and complaints alike, is ignored as soon as possible. So why should anyone bother to write you Taco?
I like Slashdot, I like the people on Slashdot, I'm a Slashdot addict, I'll refresh the front page after I'm done writing this. But man, the staff running this place is unbelievable. No spell checking, ever. Dupes, trolls, fakes, bad URLs etc etc all find their way through to the frontpage way too often indicating that half the time the staff don't even read the article, much less check links or such. There is no staging or testing lab, it's quick hacks and patches on the live boxes which every now and then brings the site down or creates some other, ahem, interesting results.
In short, the Slashdot staff isn't even trying anymore. Complete stagnation.
Aaaah it feels good to burn some karma, of course, I'll never get to moderate anything after this rant though.
Wax-Museum Fire Results In Hundreds Of New Danny DeVito Statues
When the dupe story directly follows the original story. We came so close this time!!
It will happen. Its only a matter of time.
// harborpirate
// Slashbots off the starboard bow!
You only tell the admins about unexpected occurences. This is normal operating procedure.
'Sensible' is a curse word.
it appears we have snagged some fairly big game.
Would you give a damn?
Toms Hardware Reviews 65 CPU's, Past & Present
//twitch, twitch
HardwarePosted by CmdrTaco on Tuesday February 18, @08:52AM
and
65 CPUs From 100 MHz to 3066 MHz
HardwarePosted by Hemos on Tuesday February 18, @07:18AM
='s
Slashdot double-take.
Or the majority of us are quoting donkey from Shrek: "When all this is over, I'm going to need some serious therapy...just look at my eye twitch"
Heh, and it is strange nobody pointed out what is at the bottom text of a posting window:
Problems regarding accounts or comment posting should be sent to CowboyNeal.
No wonder the answer to all the polls is Cowboyneal...we need a story that just says "Cowboyneal" and points to the first article, instead of duplicates.
IMO.
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
Let's give Taco what he asked for and all flood his inbox (or the inbox of whoever posts the next dupe) next time this happens--then maybe we'll see a little change. :-)
The two stories were posted 1:34 hours apart...I daresay it's reasonable to expect Taco to check if the story's been posted in a time interval that big. If one were posted almost immediately after the other I'd be more forgiving.
They forgot the Xeon class, as well as ppro.
When I started seeing shadows of letters on freeway signs and couldn't tell if the tail lights of cars in front of me were left, ahead, or right of me.
Now I'm seeing double...
=8-)
did you know that Google published the API to their search engine?
(FYI, if you didn't know, that's the only triplicate story on Slashdot, whre CmdrTaco himself posted two of them)
Sigged!
Oddly enough, penis extensions are the most popular plastic surgery operation in the UK for males.
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
For plagerism
Depending on the authority you go by, the "standard" for writing plurals of acronyms varies.
The (US) Government Printing Office Style Manual states: "an apostrophe is used to indicate...the coined plurals of letters, figures, and symbols." GPO provides examples such as YMCA's and ABC's.
On the other hand, the 14th Edition of the Chicago Manual of Style states: "So far as it can be done without confusion, single or multiple letters, hyphenated coinages, and numbers used as nouns (whether spelled out or in numberals) form the plural by adding s alone." Provided examples include CODs and IOUs. Also according to this source, "Abbreviations having more than one period, such as M.D. and Ph.D., often form their plurals of an apostrophe and an s." Examples given include M.A.'s and Ph.D.'s. I particularly enjoy this excerpt for its anthropomorphism of words, ascribing the action of forming the plural to the words themselves rather than the writer.
Then, of course, there is the real definition of apostrophe, the first listed in Websters Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913):
A figure of speech by which the orator or writer
suddenly breaks off from the previous method of his
discourse, and addresses, in the second person, some
person or thing, absent or present; as, Milton's
apostrophe to Light at the beginning of the third book of
``Paradise Lost.''
Thus, for one who considers processors as narrative, it is indeed likely that there might be an apostrophe in a CPU, for example, in the case of a cache miss....
Nope. AMD delivered the wonder that is the K5 all by itself. ;-) (ex-AMD-er)
Infact, given the kneejerk moderation that goes on around here, you can simply repost good posts from ~50 lines up and get points. :-)
"A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
CT: Yeah yeah. It's a dupe. Funny that not a single reader emailed me in almost 2 hours to tell me.
Don't worry, Taco, I'll send two!
we're giving up... :)
I love that it's implied it is in some way the readers' fault for not telling him "in 2 hours."
There's actually people modding anything redundant in this thread?
I agree, but regarding Athlon some further credit should also go to the ex-Digital Alpha people who joined AMD and helped make the K7 architecture (not just the CPU to NB interface) so good :-)
Now lets discuss the combined slashdot editors' frightful confusion regarding homonyms, shall we?
I think you mean "hahmonims."
So does having the story duped no more than 5 posts apart mean that poor Tom has to do double duty to prevent a heft slashdotting today? The page seems a little sluggish to me today, so I'd vote for yes.
And this time they actually are so close that they appear on the same screen!
hooray for double posting!!!!
-- There is no sig line, only Zuul.
The feedback for dupes is far more entertaining to read than the feedback for ordinary stories!
And now my keychain. FYI, don't even try to drill through the cermic package. Boy will you feel stupid if you do. A 30,000 RPM dremel barely even marred it!
If you wouldn't use a apostrophe for a regular phrase, why should you use it for a acronym? For example, you wouldn't think about saying Cetral Processing Unit's. Besides, by this point CPUs are just as common as CDs, and so we might as well use them the same in acronyms.
"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World"
1 John 4:14
I am possibly one of the few people on earth that ever had a K6-3 450 (K6-III to be polite.) AMD brought out what was at the time their best (and quite possibly, THE best as it killed the P-2) processor without any hype, and then dumped it just as quickly. I use my -450 as my primary linux box (RH8) and it plugs along serving up this and that very merrily.
I wonder if anyone knows for sure why the K6-3 came and went so quickly, and why AMD dropped the -3 in favor of just boosting CPU speed on the -2? The only think I can think of is that what was the K6-3 became the first iteration of the Athlon, since AMD knew it beat the pants off the P2: why not start a new processor line?
The higher, the fewer.
Something like CPU isn't really an acronym but in fact a "spelled" abbreviation (as opposed to a regular abbreviations like dept. or Dr. that is still pronounced as the original word). Prior to the 70's (there's that appostrophe again), spelled abbreviations were almost always delimited by periods (T.V.A., F.D.R., F.B.I.), and pronounced acronyms (NATO, radar) were not.
The idea, as I have always heard & understood it, is that merely putting an "s" on the end of an spelled abbreviation that is pronounced as a series of letters is confusing (do you spell or say the "s" - SEE PEE YOU ESS?), as you may think the "s" is part of the abbreviation. Traditionally, lettered abbreviations were delimited with periods, like M.D.; making them plural by adding a lowercase "s" didn't look right at all (M.D.s).
Soon after that you started seeing the creation of the InterCaps plural form of the spelled abbreviation (CDs). Now that InterCaps and spelled, non-periodified acronyms are relatively common, the traditional style guides are finally officially sanctioning the CPUs form of the plural, but the form CPU's is still correct, but falling out of favor. Back in the 60's it probably would be more correctly spelled C.P.U.'s - hmm.
Most style guides recognize that the ambiguity exists, and that grammar nazis will get their undies in a bundle, so their recommendation is to avoid sentence structures that force you to make a spelled abbreviation plural.
-BbT
1. auto dupe-checking 2. spellcheck
you are fsking off topic. we are ALL talking about the dupe on toms hardware review here.
I'm the one who posted it, and that guy was right about 2 people posting it at the same time, because when I posted it, from what i could tell, it hadn't been posted yet! (latest story was on the 2.2 million credit cards...) AOL IM Screenname PcChip2
I think Kuro5hin allows this - not that it helps you here.
Perhaps Slashdot.org's tech crew could develop a simple system to actively prevent dupes? Like checking to see if the same url was used in a recent article? Might even be helpful with crossreferencing. Or maybe you *want* to put up a dupe because the discussion was so good last time, then you can say it in advance and less email to you. Just a couple cents.
Once I figure out how to prevent dupes, I'll patent it and then collect royalties.
i laughed my ass off and have nothing funny to say...
that sucks
No, it's the K6 that got its roots from Nx586.
Wasn't Cyrix before NexGen? They offered a 386SX-compatible chip. And according to AMD: The AMD-K5 was independently developed and designed by AMD. Although AMD and NexGen have merged, the NX586 was an independent NexGen design effort and was not pin compatible with neither AMD-K5 or the Pentium Processor. Of course software compatibility is a different issue.