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HMS Beagle (Possibly) Found
With the Beagle 2 lander lost on Mars, good Beagle-related news has been lacking, until now. British paper The Observer is reporting that the original HMS Beagle, the ship Darwin travelled on during his famous voyage, may have been found. Marine archeologists believe they have found the ship, which has been resting at the bottom of some Essex marshes for the last century.
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Now we just need to find the other Beagle. Wouldn't it be great if we found that one at the bottom of some ocean?
-twb
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Snoopy was found dead in a Vegas hotel room, at the bottom of the tub. CSI Gil Grissom suspects foul play as several small, yellow feathers were found at the scene.
...and it was on this planet.
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I found the gnaa lodged in my rectum
It's *still* not responding to signals.
THINK
Spirit was obviously the alpha rover, since it survived and Beagle 2 did not. How appropriate!
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Hang on. If European engineering can produce something that will survive 150 years in Essex, landing a buggy on Mars should be peanuts in comparison. What went wrong?
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I wonder what they will find if it really is the ship Darwin travelled on.
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Apparently the ship has undergone some sort of specialization to allow it to be a marsh-submarine instead of its original function of water-floater. This is truly an acomplishment for Darwinian evolution.
Soon, I'm sure examples such as this will crop up all over, as ships start to pass on their abilities to survive under marshes to their offspring.
Other than the historical value and the renewed hope that if we can find one beagle we can find another what will this mean? I have never been a fan of evolution as a Christian but find much of Darwin's work interesting. Are there any new discoveries we might make about him or his work from this (possible) find?
Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree. -Martin Luther
Darwin doing on Mars? Wait a second...did he come back from the Galopagos via the Bermuda Triangle? I think we may have solved the mystery of all the crap that goes missing down there.
People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them
first post!!! you lame assholes... I can post first because my XBox is a american product and my pride in my great country and my great XBox accelerate everything...
If only they would make games for that bitch... IAve played Metroid Prime and it ruled... I hope M$ will buy those japanese bastards and port Metroid to my great american console system!!!
into a higher form of ooze.
"who knows what remnants of Darwin's trip may still lie down there"
I doubt there will be anything of Darwins on board. It did many things after his travels in it and was eventualy stripped down by someone else. It's like getting a used car with several owners before you. Will you really find anything worth wild from the first owner. Maybe an old green fry in the seat. Who wants that.
Evolution or ID?
what does your religion say about boys touching other boys' dongs?
I'm a long time dong toucher, but I dont want to piss off your Jebus character. What should I do?
All i have to say is likely tale! Cause the proof is in the pudding...err marsh.
So, did it evolve into a submarine now?
Maybe it was not a good idea to name it Beagle, they should have named it something associated with success or at least as something tasty: Bagel.
You can't handle the truth.
It (the HMS Beagle) used to have a huge bank of guns, but they were gutted and replaced with diagnostic equipment.
Make science, not war!
the boat didn't sink with Darwin still on board. Then maybe he wouldn't have had the chance to pollute our theology with his outlandish theories.
Is there any evidence of life in Essex?
Any right thinking Christian in this country knows that the whole Beagle voyage was a scam. There was no Beagle, Darwin was a heretic ponce at best, 'evilution' (sick) is self masturbation by atheists.
There can only be one nation under God. And if gays are allowed to marry, we might start a backwards evolution into snails and other amoral beings.
Thank you, amen and God bless America, Christian science and the GOP.
How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
don't let James Cameron get anywhere close to this wreck! Don't give him any ideas!
"What's the Beagle look like?"
"There's a picture of it here."
"What's that coming out of it?"
"Lightning, Wrath of God type stuff."
"Bush is said to be a nut about this stuff. He's got teams out searching for it."
"The army that carries the Beagle in front of it is invincible"
...HMS Beagle finds marine archeologists!
"Truly we can see God's works through this evolution. I feel my work can help all men have a better understanding of the ways of the Lord in Heaven and His divine plan." ... " I hope that these notes don't get separated or there might be quite a bit of a silly misunderstanding, what with the monkeys and all."
--Leo
Ok, so we have a ship that was designed to cross vast stretches sea that's been lost for centuries... so what do they do? Take a probe that is designed to cross vast streches of space and give it the same name!
Good plan. How about naming the probe set to visit the asteroid belt "Titanic"! :)
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"They do not preach that their god will rouse them, a little before the Nuts work loose." Kipling, 'The Sons of Martha'
lol @ christians
that it doesn't take as long to find the other one!
Send one of the American rovers to pull it out of the marsh... unless yoda is hiding around there
~Turd
I hear they parked it in some dock in a marsh, and it slowly sunk into the muck. By the way, what does RTFA stand for?
But there is another kind of evil that we must fear most... and that is the indifference of good men.
I thought they found the Beagle sent to mars had been in esex for 150 years, and started going WTF? THEY SENT A MARS ROVER BACK IN TIME BUT NOT TO MARS?
why is this modded up? its just a lame attempt at injecting religious propaganda into the discussion
This is offtopic, troll, flamebait.
How long before it will be able to walk out of the swamp on it's own?
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it's too bad i don't have mod points today.... that's funny
He was brutaly beaten about the head with a camera tripod. Authorities are searching for an associate known as "Woodstock" who had been drinking with him in the hotel bar until 2 A.M.
Why is everybody going offtopic? Dragging religion and Darwinism into all this ... it's sad. You guys should sit down and properly discuss an old, old ship found in an old, old swamp. Stick to the story, guys!
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AC below you is noting that 'dong toucher' was lifted from parent post that I replied to. And no, I am not better. I am not an adulterer, drunkard and as far as my recollection serves have not been decietful recently, although I can not in good faith say never. I think your knee-jerk reaction to what I posted is a bit zealous in its tone. But back to the initial assertion: I am not better than you, nor did I claim to be. I am forgiven of my sinfulness because of my acceptance of Christ and my continuing desire to be conformed to His likeness. It is not unusual for people to misinterpret what I say though, I usually just get modded down though. The essential difference between a Christian and non is the desire to cast away their sinfulness in favor of the righteousness of Christ. It is not meant to imply that I/we are in any way above reproach or better than non-believers, we are simply different.
Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree. -Martin Luther
That most of those skeletons have been debunked? One was faked and one was shown to have crippling arthritis.
Which is not to say that evolution is wrong. Just that the skeletal evidence doesn't PROVE anything one way or the other.
Really, what do you base your arguments on? The majority opinion of people around you?
... Noah's Ark? Wasn't it supposed to be on some mountain in the Himalayas or some such? Maybe after it was 'decommisioned' it was sold off for scrap. oh, wait, the scrap yard guys drowned. bummer.
if you still dont understand why you were modded down, read this, shiteating christian:
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"Then, in 1870, records show that the Beagle was auctioned for 525 to local scrap merchants Murray and Trainer">
If it holds such important why was it sold for scrap?
Can you believe it? Jesus did all this. He picked me off the street, strapped my arms and legs down to his cross, and just wouldn't stop fondling my cock'n'balls.
They definately were red flag touches. the goddamn referee kept on raising up this red flag every time he touched my junk but did Jesus care? NO WAY! He just kept on doing it. I couldn't believe what the fuck was going on, indeed. I pleaded with Jesus but to no avail. I told him the city would not approve of such a holy man touching an underage kid like me (at the time I was 13) without at least compensating me for the trauma and the use of my body as his own personal plaything.
This got to him, worrying about his image. He continued to fondle me, all the while ignoring the referee's red flags. Then he drove the Jesusmobile to my house and *ejected the seat I was in*! It was amazing. But surprisingly, after I woke up the next morning, my bank account had $150k in it! Can you believe it?
I've always felt that creationism and evolution don't conflict at all.
...their loss.)
After all, if He wanted, to, God could have created the entire universe just a moment after you read this comment. So why couldn't he have created the Earth with skeletons of dinosaurs where they are?
If someone were to tell me this is impossible, I would tell them they're underestimating God. (shrug.
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Why is it that open discussion only really extends so far? We are free to chase rabbits in some areas but not in others? Why is it that when I post anything with a Christian implication or overtone that I get consistently moderated as Flamebait/Offtopic/Overrated. I chase rabbits that are presented by those that post or respond to posts and I get penalized for fostering discussion? What kind of idiots are you? I will seriously reconsider sponsoring Slashdot again when my current subscription is up.
Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree. -Martin Luther
How did thee make this slashdot entry come up in thee Olde English typeface? Come hither and retreat to Essex upon Liverpool, my fellow Knights of her Majesty!
Cheerio,
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...but is there any news on the HMS Pinafore?
Am I the only one who read the headline and knew what it meant? ;)
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This is great! Now all they have to do is wipe its flush memory, and it'll be in tip-top shape.
it had evolved into a yacht
Ah, I love the "____ touched my junk liberally" troll.
Thanks for the laugh!
For the English.
Insert Essex girl's jokes here...
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It's funny. Laugh.
Within your obviously biased post, you have done little to actually argue a point. If you want to convince people, take a side and then try to defend it with objective evidence... just as actual proponants of Science have done.
Now, as far as I see it, your preconceptions may be incorrect. Creationism and Evolution are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Yet while few now would argue against most of the concepts in evolution, many evolutionists (such as yourself) ardently argue against the concepts of creationism. However, answer for me this:
Assuming that the Scientifically-based theory of human history (evolution being recent, the big-bang being the oldest conjectured event), then where did the "Cosmic Egg" that started the whole process come from? Further, and more important, why did it come about? Answer these, and then you'll probably have an arguement against Creationism.
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He had to have been to come up with his looney *theory* of evolution.
People in our time lose sight of how radical a change Darwinism brought to the philisophical outlook of man. It was one of the great sea changes in modern thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism
You do not. Or along the same line "How do you balance Apples and Orange Alien Artefacts?"
I think it was Kant who said something like "Religion is by its nature undefined"
Sounds like the exact opposite of science.
"/Dread"
I just can't wait to see the first post that says
IANAG (I am not a god) but I read something somewhere a long time ago about this topic, and I am determined to demonstrate my sloppy thinking with a long and flawed post.
but I thought it was relevant to the general conversation for you liberal, anti-war zealots out there who actually believe the theory of evolution.
What about conservative American patriots who actually believe the theory of evolution? Not all conversative American patriots are troglodytes, you know.
-kgj
-kgj
When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a boat in a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. And that one sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, and then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one floated. And that's what you're going to get, Son, the strongest boat in all of England
Why is it that the proponents of "one nation under God" are so eager to get rid of "liberty and justice for all"?
These people could have just watched the intro cinematic in this game, they would have known where to look. I'm sure Angeline Jolie wouldn't mind taking them out to the site.
. . to raise the Beagle and turn it into a space-faring vessel to search for the other Beagle on Mars, but instead encountering. . .
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IMHO you are deluded.
Evolution is not a theory. Scientists aren't trying to prove that evolution happened. It is accepted to be a real fact.
The THEORIES of evolution surround what the mechanisms of evolution are, was it genetic mutations, natural disasters, etc. HOW did evolution occur, not DID it occur.
It's a stupid point to argue about. If you need a single holy creator, than you need to work him into the scheme of the big things: millions of galaxies and galaxy clusters, a potentially life rich universe, why is there life at all? Don't argue the small points like the evolving body of genetics found on Earth.
No Shit. A guy told me this once:
Dinosaur bones were put on Earth by Satan to get people to believe in evolution and not in creation.
I was dumbfounded that this guy actually believed that.
Typically, theologians opposed to evolution have anticipated you in this idea, and come up with a rationale that makes it (to their minds) unacceptable. The essential point would be that God wouldn't tell fibs that way, by planting misleading evidence. That's the synopsis of the argument, anyway.
(Meanwhile most of the scientists I've ever met in the US, anyway, were practicing Christians. The basic point that evolution and religion aren't in opposition because they deal with different types of knowledge is just tooooo hard to get ahold of, isn't it? Scientific knowledge is falsifiable by definition, faith is not, and so on? Sound like something we've heard before?)
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
Perhaps HMS Beagle was simply abandoned, due to lack of funding or general carelessness (true to the British way of 'muddling through'.)
A similar fate awaited the steamboat Medway Queen, veteran of the Dunkirk Evacuation in WWII. My uncle-in-law once did maintenance work on her in her heyday, basically by the time a group discovered her and raised enough money to restore her, the hull plates were rusted through. So what did they do? Fit a shiny new funnel (of course! Possibly to attract further investment that didn't care about the sieve underneath.) Then they found they couldn't afford new plates and when a Chatham business withdrew the free electricity it was supplying to run the pumps, the Medway Queen simply sank at her berth and remains there to this day, beyond economic repair but with a nice funnel.
I'm retelling this after a gap of a year. Hope the SS Robin restoration team has learnt the lesson of that fiasco.
The two superpowers had their various deep benthic submersibles that they've used for stuff like tapping each other's deep-sea cables and pulling up each other's dead subs and so on. (You might want to Read "Blind Man's Bluff" for an okay popular history of that stuff.) Now that the cold war's over, there are private markets for the technology, and the navy's happy to lend its stuff to Robert Ballard to poke around the Meditteranean, looking for history.
Underwater archaeology's taking off as a result. We've had an amazing run of shipwreck-finding, haven't we? Heck, let alone shipe -- we get Black Sea villages that've been preserved in anaerobic environments since "THE flood." All sorts of sailing vessels. Nazi subs. It's a great time to be looking for ships down there. Go down off of the canaries, and you almost have too many ships to choose from.
(William Broad's "The Universe Below" is a decent run through the military history of this stuff, and concentrates more on the shipwrecks side than, say, Richard Ellis's "Deep Atlantic." Broad also considers the legal and ethical problems -- who does a shipwreck from 1500 belong to? Ellis is more about the biology, which is cool too.)
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
..the strange things that happen to someone's mind when they get mod points."
Troll? was my post? I'll take the "slightly more refined" part, but this was hardly a "prank comment".
Just so you can clarify:
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I almost didn't post this but became to infatuated with reading my own writing.
Audience members heard stories of silver, gold and jewels salvaged in recent years from wrecks dating to the days of the Spanish galleons. Hess recalled his excitement at seeing real treasure chests bursting with pieces of eight." Story Continues
He said advances in scuba diving technology will make sunken ships around Kodiak more accessible. Hess foresees a time when diving could join fishing and hunting as a local economic asset. "I think you have the beginnings of a new industry," he said.
"Once something is found, the first thing that's asked is, 'Who owns it?'" he said.
Assuming that a ship's owners have abandoned a wreck, the basic principle of salvage law is simple: finders keepers. That still has validity in the maritime context, Hess said.
-cp-
I've seen proof that some translator was a twit, and should have written the 'Reed Sea'. Which makes a lot more sense than the current version...
Israelite What now Moses?
Moses We go home.
IsraeliteWhich way is that?
Moses East.
IsraeliteOh, good. Heads south
God writes note 'next time, choose people with a sense of direction
"great liners such as Mauretania, Queen Elizabeth and Canberra all went to the breakers yards"
In the case of this year's beagle, it seemed the british got ahead of themselves. The sent Beagle ALREADY broken to mars.
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It is a characteristic of zealots that they want to believe that a) everyone is either with them or against them, and b) both sides hold easily categorized sets of beliefs. The idea that there are ideologies orthogonal to their own just doesn't fit into their worldview. Me, I'm a patriotic liberal anti-war pro-gun atheist evolution-believing veteran. The grandparent poster probably has never even imagined that people like me exist. ;)
... surely He can create evolution ....
Well put -- that's what I'm talking about.
Similarly, I've met professors of biology who believe in both Christianity and evolution. And why not? If God can create Everything
-kgj
-kgj
Was Osama Bin Laden inside?
Steve
they can sometimes leave for days while chasing a rabbit. Maybe we just have to wait until the dogs get hungry before we hear from them.
JBS Haldane is a respected biologist.
'Haldanes Dilemma' is creationist nonsense invented by Walter ReMine.
How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
Well you have to realize that a large number of Christians pick and choose ideas from the bible simply to bolster confidence in their own personal beliefs, kinda like why people watch shows like O'Reily.
Picking and choosing makes sense. Taking the entire Bible straight-up at face value is tough: numerous contradictions, a shortage of connections to bind the pieces into a cohesive whole.
-kgj
-kgj
if you wanted to get an accurate interperation of genesis I suggest that you (plural) take a foundation year bible studies class where they get at the hebrew, themes, images, etc... and not from a faith perspective.
when you do this you (plural) pick up on themes that were invisible when you (plural) were reading it as a scientific report.
simon
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[Sarcasm detector explodes.]
In fact, it is in basic maritime law.
If it is within national waters, then there are certain rules that have to be adhered to, but if the wreck is old enough, then it's open: first one to find it gets it.
Did we ever see Spain throwing a big fit about the recovery of the Atocha's treasure in the 70's? Nope.
There are moral issues about the Titanic and similarly not-so-old sunken civilian vessels because there are still people alive who sailed on the doomed voyage or immediate family members, and because it was so tragic.
I wonder what the has ship evolved into by now.
Have you read my journal today?
If you consider a piece of rubber (aka bagel) to be tasty....
I must be having a hard day, I can't help coming back to this thread for a little fish-in-a-barrel action.
I have seen human footprints that date to be 150 million years old, they have been found in Utah, Kentucky, Missouri, and in the country of Tanzania
Give me more details and I can probably show you where these "footprints" have been carefully debunked.
Fossil shoe prints with a crushed Trilobite under the heal were found in Utah by William J. Meister.
Aha! that's enough detail: Its a trilobite, but it's not a shoe print Frankly, your uh, "dedication" is impressive. Most creationists gave up on this one in the 80s. If you do a bit of searching you can find the pictures that made them do so; the ones that show a whole bunch of similar formations all over the area where someone carefully snapped the ones that looked most shoe-like. (And frankly, it's not all that shoe-like in the first place)
I always ask why these are disregarded.
It's disregarded because it's been carefully examined and found wanting.
The best thing I can come up with is a conspiracy
What would be the possible goal of such a conspiracy? Heck, I've looked at the evidence and concluded evolution makes sense, so I would have to be part of the conspiracy. But I have not received a secret decoder ring. You'll have to take my word for it: I won't participate in any conspiracy that can't spring for a secret decoder ring.
Please show me a living trans-species
Find a mirror.
Darwin's theory will be disproved in the next 20 years.