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Google Launches SMS Search Service

jSpectre writes "Google's been busy introducing a lot of new things this week. The latest, a SMS search service. SMS a message to 46645 (googl) and find local business listings, product prices, dictionary definitions, and more. Go Google!"

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  1. I was wondering how they'd search my SMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But it's a search VIA SMS, which makes a lot more sense.

    1. Re:I was wondering how they'd search my SMS by zaxios · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was wondering how they'd search my SMS

      In Soviet Russia, Google searches YOUr, um, SMS. D'oh!

    2. Re:I was wondering how they'd search my SMS by aussie_a · · Score: 2

      I was getting ready to say "alright, everyone's right. Google is after people's personal information and this is clearly an invasion of privacy, they ARE evil" and then I realised the heading was misleading :)

    3. Re:I was wondering how they'd search my SMS by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 1

      Would we have access to search image google via SMS??

      Ooooo... The potential washroom quik fixessss..

    4. Re:I was wondering how they'd search my SMS by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      However, I would be surprised if Google didn't keep my mobile phone number on record, which is a privacy issue for me. Yes, I know you can hide it, but I don't want to go down that path...

    5. Re:I was wondering how they'd search my SMS by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Speaking of Soviet Russia, how international is this? I was looking at the business search function and noticed it used a US zipcode. What about us Canuckistanis?

  2. woohoo! by NightDragon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, now i can search for pictures of naked women ANYWHERE!

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    1. Re:woohoo! by stateofmind · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't know.. ASCII porn doesn't do much for me. :)

    2. Re:woohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're obviously not a true geek.

    3. Re:woohoo! by El · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, but viewing pictures of nekid wimmin on your mobile phone with it's postage stamp screen is liable to make you go blind...

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    4. Re:woohoo! by Stevyn · · Score: 5, Funny

      (o)(o) ...Na, it's just not the same.

    5. Re:woohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kids these days...

    6. Re:woohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      (*)(.) - Janet Jackson

    7. Re:woohoo! by HitByASquirrel · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you're viewing pictures of naked women with a postage-stamp screen i doubt its the action of watching thats making you go blind.

    8. Re:woohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Back in my day we had to print our porn on 30x8 punch cards, and we liked it.

    9. Re:woohoo! by toremini · · Score: 1

      Try out this website, Linux chicks: http://hackersplayground.org/humor/linuxchicks/40. html I actually printed out the OpenBSD brunette on 3rd page. Damn she's hot!

  3. Google aren't 1337 any more... by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 5, Funny

    The latest, a SMS search service. SMS a message to 46645 (googl) and find local business listings, product prices, dictionary definitions, and more. Go Google!"

    If google were 1337, their sms number would be 600613.

    1. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by BenVis · · Score: 3, Funny

      As long as I can still use this google will always be 1337.

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    2. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If google were 1337, their sms number would be 600613.

      Give them a year or so of being public and thier number will be 70015.

    3. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by Wakkow · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why would they want their SMS to be "boobie"? I think you're thinking of a different kind of search engine...

    4. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by burns210 · · Score: 1

      Yea, like this one.

    5. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noooooo...
      It would be 867309!

    6. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by ThogScully · · Score: 1

      Nope... this one.
      -N

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    7. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong question: Why would they want their SMS to be "boobie"?

      Right question: Why wouldn't they want their SMS to be "boobie"?

    8. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by the+pickle · · Score: 1

      You mean like Booble?

      (It was a lot funnier when their front page looked *exactly* like Google's, but with boobs, though.)

      p

    9. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looking for this?

    10. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you forgot the 5 cheesedick.

    11. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by Aroma+7herapy · · Score: 4, Funny
      which reminds me of the new nation-wide info phone# for the police in the Netherlands.

      It's 0900-8844, thus 0900-TUIG, which translates in 0900-SCUM..

      Coulnd't help thinking that there is at least _one_ cop in holland who has a sense of humour...

    12. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by r2q2 · · Score: 1

      I think he means <A HREF="http://booble.com"> booble </A>

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    13. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by syukton · · Score: 1

      I believe you mean 900913.

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    14. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or 1337, come to think of it.

    15. Re:Google aren't 1337 any more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      booble:

      "Searched the web for jenna jameson

      Results 1 - 7 of about 7."

      Yep, works real well.

  4. Another pertinent article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can be found here.

  5. Will it be able to understand messages like.. by no+reason+to+be+here · · Score: 4, Funny

    whr can i g3t sum t13 f00d?

    1. Re:Will it be able to understand messages like.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      t13 = tie?

      Who the hell eats ties?!

    2. Re:Will it be able to understand messages like.. by metlin · · Score: 1

      I do not know if you meant to be funny or simply didn't get it, but I think he meant Thai. Consider the phonetics, too.

    3. Re:Will it be able to understand messages like.. by PReDiToR · · Score: 1

      whr can i g3t sum t13 f00d?

      Wouldn't it be nice if Google had a GPS fix on you from your CellPhone, and sent back something like:

      "Turn right at the end of the road, second left and there is a burger joint on the right"

      Mind you, that would probably qualify as an invasion of privacy with most people, no matter how useful the feature was.

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    4. Re:Will it be able to understand messages like.. by Orinthe · · Score: 1

      I don't know, my phone has GPS navigation built in, same as (from what I can tell) most phones here in Japan. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to go to places I haven't been before, mostly because I can't read enough of the Japanese instructions. But I can set GPS markers at places and then I can easily get back to them. What would really be cool is if you could find your friend's cell phone! Perhaps if you and your friend mutually agreed (with a passcode or some kind of buddy-list style database) your phone would be able to locate their phone, and guide you to them.

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    5. Re:Will it be able to understand messages like.. by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      "tnk i nd n ext fst"

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    6. Re:Will it be able to understand messages like.. by gosand · · Score: 1
      whr can i g3t sum t13 f00d?


      Yes, it will return "Stop being an idiot"

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  6. This may be king of mobile service offerings. by Negadin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This (or something like this) may be huge as people become more dependant on their mobile phones.

    No one wants to navigate some funky mobile web page looking for things like numbers, addresses or other things. People want instant information easily.

    SMS is pretty easy to understand - send a message and interpet the results. No clunky (and inconsistant) navigation problems.

    Heck - mobile mfg's (or OS designers) could put a search service into their phone that could utilize google's offerings automatically.

    1. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      When you get the results back, how do you navigate to the web site? Wouldn't it have made more sense to use Google via WAP in the first place, if you're inevitably going to end up there later?

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    2. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by Rorschach1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe so, but every time I use the SMS messaging on my Verizon phone (Motorola T720) I get the feeling that the user interface was designed by a complete moron. Sending to a number requires tapping each number 4 times since it defaults to alphanumeric mode. Just getting to the right screen requires navigating around multiple menus with the stupid circular arrow button.

      Right
      Down
      Select
      44446666666644445555
      OK

      OK
      Done
      Yes

      Deleting a message is similarly a multi-step operation. And God forbid you should get a message while you're trying to read another one.

      Do all phones suck this bad? My old StarTAC had a fairly simple interface, but it didn't have all the features.

    3. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by ewg · · Score: 2, Informative

      I use a nifty Sony Ericsson P800. It has a very usable (for a phone) handwriting recognition system.

      My friends ask why I use mixed case and punctuation in my text messages. The truth is it's just the most natural and easy way to enter them on the P800. You never even use the number keys.

      I sent about two dozen queries to Google SMS today, trying everything out. This is not a chore with such a nice text-entry system.

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    4. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by flink · · Score: 1

      All recent Verizon phones I've seen use some kind of predictive entry system called "T9". It works pretty well. Out of Samsung, Motorola, and Nokia, I've found the Samsung phones to have the most efficient UI (for me anyway), although the voice quality was not as good as on the Motorola.

    5. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1
      I also have a T720, and the experience has been bad enough that I will never consider buying another Motorola phone again. The hardware is crap: the case creaks, the display is poor in daylight, and service agents in Western Australia literally can't be bothered stocking or obtaining parts. (They told me so, in so many words.)

      The UI is sluggish, and Motorola appear to have gone out of their way to make it hard to use templates or drafts for text messages.

    6. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by tsq · · Score: 1

      After living in Japan for two years, I must agree that American cell phones suck. My Japanese cellphone (it was an AU something or other) was much more intuitive than any cellphone I've seen here in the states, despite the fact that all the really cool features (you know, the ones that really matter) were in Japanese only.

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    7. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by gomoX · · Score: 1

      Recently got a Motorola phone after losing my Nokia a month ago, i can say: Motorola sucks. Nokia will kick it's ass in usability and UI desing/concept on every single aspect.

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    8. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by Khazunga · · Score: 1

      On Nokias, if you hold the alphanumeric key, it'll print a number after a while. Sure beats tapping the key four times...

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    9. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by smaug195 · · Score: 1

      Yet for voice quality and reception quality. IE the 2 things I use my phone for mostly, the motorolas kick nokias butt.

    10. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 1

      "Do all phones suck this bad?"

      Motorola are notorious for having difficult-to-use software on their mobile telephones. Try to get something from nokia if you ever change telephones, as it's an 'order of magnitude' better. Feels just like using a PDA or even groupware, and they don't seem to have assumed anything stupid about how you'll use it (when you're looking at a text-message for example, it's only a couple of button-presses to delete, file, reply, send it to someone, save the telephone number it was sent from, add that number to an existing contact, add it to the calendar, etc.)

      I don't know if the user-interface survived the change to full-colour graphical screens though - my phone is easy to use because it's monochrome LCD which makes it very clear and forces the programmers to think, while some new phones seem to be showing-off their graphical backdrops and shaded borders, at the expense of readability.

    11. Re:This may be king of mobile service offerings. by squiggleslash · · Score: 1
      I'd have agreed with you a year or two ago, but Nokia's recent offerings are awful - half of them don't even have proper keypads.

      I have a T720 now, and while it has many faults, I'm happy with it. I wish Nokia would do something like revive the old 21xx series, put a minimum of the new current features on it (eg USB/Bluetooth, GPRS, a STANDARD headset jack, quad-band GSM, etc); I'd buy one in an instant.

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  7. fantastic idea by djxploit · · Score: 1, Insightful

    i just wonder when they will roll it out to all countries as its only a us based thing now.
    same thing also might happen as whats happening now (occasionally) sms googl and get a repsonse from google.com.sg :)

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  8. Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    It told me to send it "help" if I needed, er, help. You might find this information useful.

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    1. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by ornil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One thing that's missing is the ability to find where you are. So you actually have to tell it your address. However, the phone company obviously knows where you are, and I personally wouldn't mind if it communicated this information to Google upon my request.

      For those concerned about privacy, I'd simply make it opt-in, i.e. phone company messages you the first time you do this, and asks to reply if you want to enable Google/some other guy (identified by their phone number) to see this information.
      The phone company then always attaches your address when you message this number.

    2. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In the UK some phone companies already do this as part of their basic service.

      You go to the WAP screen, select 'food','pizza' and you get a list of all the pizza places nearby.

      I've used it for taxis, ATMs, etc. it's really handy.

    3. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by mibus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Without triangulation of the signal (which is alot more manual in real life than TV makes it out to be), you can only get a result from knowing what base you're connected to, which is so inaccurate it's hardly a privacy issue.

      (In most residential areas around where I live, you'd get like 5km accuracy... but I've seen it be about 40km away*!).

      * It was a clear sunny day, the phone managed to get line-of-sight 50km across water to another base which just barely managed to be stronger than one on the other side of the hill we were on).

    4. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by flink · · Score: 1

      Many phones contain a GPS locator device. Unfortunately, I've yet to see one that actually lets you view your GPS coordinates.

    5. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by Upphew · · Score: 0
      About a year ago, my friend's friend showed his mobile, which had some debugging software. We were camping and his phone was connected/could hear 7 (iirc) different bases. And that software also showed signal strength for each base. With so much information one should be able to get better accuracy than 5km.

      I thingk that in urban settings problem would (and is, if I remember right the demo I saw when interviewed to one locating company) be reflections and blocking of signal caused by structures.

    6. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      One thing that's missing is the ability to find where you are. So you actually have to tell it your address. However, the phone company obviously knows where you are, and I personally wouldn't mind if it communicated this information to Google upon my request.

      All modern digital cell phones are required to transmit it's location for 911 services (and 3 letter agencies).

      My current phone has an option drop-down for choosing "transmit my GPS location" or "911 Only". Although I do not know how a consumer can get this information even if I were to uncheck "911 Only". This is probably for future expansion.

    7. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by Khazunga · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can triangulate automatically, based on signal strength of the various bases you're connected to. Vodafone here does that as a GPRS service of vehicle fleets. The accuracy is at least enough to identify the street you're in, so its definitely better than 5km.

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    8. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? you get food.pizza

      i get food.McDonalds
      food.McD's Drive Thru
      food.McCafe
      food.Other

      I guess i know who vodafone has thrown in with around here

    9. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by igrp · · Score: 1
      It really is. People in the industry used to refer to it as LBS (location based services) and it was supposed to be "the next big thing (tm)" two years ago. Sadly, it never really took off since, well, WAP never really took off (which can be attributed mostly to even WAP-over-GPRS being way too expensive and the networks being less than enthusiastic about GPRS in an effort to protect their substantial UMTS investments).

      Triangulation has become pretty good. In most urban areas, you can narrow the user's location down to two to three block radius without much trouble. Manual triangulation allows for even better resolution (but that's usually only used for diagnostic and law enforcement purposes).

    10. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bollocks.

    11. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      In Poland on ERA-GSM simcards, you got menus built into the simcard menu which provide that information.


      Pretty much you can get a list of:

      Resturaunts, Taxis, Hotels, ATM machines, Banks, Bus stops etc.. etc.. near you.

      And this information can be SMS'd to you as street locations or as a picture for the new mobiles that support MMS technology.. and pretty much it's really a cheap service. No wap needed to retreve the information, just a SMS-capable phone (and I know of no phones that aren't SMS-capabile).

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    12. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It's not necessarily just triangulation, although I am not in the cellular industry so I know no specifics but don't cellphones have a pretty reliable clock in them and don't they send timestamps? Just a thought.

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    13. Re:Not knowing what to say, I sent it 'pizza' by mibus · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah triangulation is certainly very possible, but most places haven't automated it (for good reason!). I haven't talked to any mobile techs (I know a few in the largest telco here) in the past year or so about it, but back then it was pencil-and-paper to work out locations. (And they could get it down to a couple of metres, including elevation, depending on the # of bases and stuff).

  9. Slashdotting Google with my cell phone by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm sure Google will be able to handle it. But I wonder what Verizon & co will think about the sudden spike in SMS activity?

    Probably, they'll be thinking about the 12c they're getting from me for each one -- 10 for the outgoing, 2 for the incoming. Crap. Well, it's better than the $1.50 (or so) every time my wife decides to call 411. Drives me nuts when she does that...

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    1. Re:Slashdotting Google with my cell phone by bunyip · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Probably, they'll be thinking about the 12c they're getting from me for each one -- 10 for the outgoing, 2 for the incoming. Crap. Well, it's better than the $1.50 (or so) every time my wife decides to call 411. Drives me nuts when she does that...

      Very interesting. Could Google have partnered with the phone company to get their slice of your 12 cents? Anybody know of other companies that moght have already offered services like this?

      Alan.

    2. Re:Slashdotting Google with my cell phone by tool462 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I have signed up with a website that provides SMS messages with traffic updates. Since I have a long commute, it's handy to get notification that a major accident has occurred on my route home, so I can work around it. However, my (former) wireless provider--the always wonderful AT&T Wireless--decided that these SMS messages were spam, assumably because of the volume. They now block the IP address that the website is sending the messages from, despite the company's repeated attempts to correct the situation and many customer complaints. We'll see how they respond to this new spike in usage.

    3. Re:Slashdotting Google with my cell phone by eae · · Score: 3, Interesting

      SMS:es are sent using signaling, rather than over a dedicated communications channel, like voice and data.
      Thus there is very little overhead and theres no real limit of the number of messages that can be sent simultaneously (like there is for voice/data channels), and thats also why there's a 160 char limit.

    4. Re:Slashdotting Google with my cell phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assuming GSM uses a voice codec that consumes 16Kbps, you could transmit 102 SMS for the same bandwidth of second of voice airtime.

    5. Re:Slashdotting Google with my cell phone by barbazoo · · Score: 1

      They must have partnered up with someone so that their messages get routed correctly from all carriers.

    6. Re:Slashdotting Google with my cell phone by Dusabre · · Score: 1

      Of course they're partnered. In every developed country apart from the USA, there are premium sms services, where the phone company gets a small slice and the service provider a large amount.

      You can get:
      1) pictures
      2) melodies
      3) sex chat
      4) credit for your parking meter
      5) credit for your press/internet ad
      anything you can imagine thats worth less than $5 by sending a sms.

  10. *Sniff* by Sagara+Sozou · · Score: 1

    My little google's finally growing up. Time to take off the training wheels.

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    1. Re:*Sniff* by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I took the training wheels away from my kid when he went made his first billion and went IPO. They grow up so fast.

  11. Great Idea by mpost4 · · Score: 1

    Great idea, I have just sent 2 messages, I have to get anything back, I sent one to see if it could get my address for me, stupid test but hay it is a test, and I did one for the "help" since I read my sms on my palm I can just file it away for later use. If it does what it promises, I think I might use it allot. Now this is the kind of stuff we need.

  12. A natural progression by saddino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google is clearly aiming to be the information center for the connected/wired world, which makes perfect sense: after realizing that Google's value is its sheer amount of content, any service that brings people to that content is going to be pursued.

    I bet, eBay and Amazon, with similar giant demographic and e-commerce content won't be too far behind (e.g. the "price check" feature is tailor made for Amazon).

    1. Re:A natural progression by Fortress · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Google is clearly aiming to be the information center for the connected/wired world

      How long until we all complain about Google's monopoly of the Internet?

      I like Google, but it's now a publicly held company, meaning it's responsibilities are now to the shareholders. I fear that Google will be taken over by suits who want to use all of Google's information and influence for insidious purposes. It may be only a matter of time before the corporate culture changes from "Do no evil" to "Do what's profitable and hide it if it's evil."

    2. Re:A natural progression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a third party service that already implements Amazon price checking via SMS. You can fire off a bar code or ISBN number and get a reply message detailing current new and used prices for Books, CDs, DVDs, etc.

      http://www.azimin.com

      Disclaimer ;) I work there...

    3. Re:A natural progression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long until we all complain about Google's monopoly of the Internet?

      When google starts hosting hardcore porn movies. But then again if I can search for porn without getting annoying ads and redirects, I don't think I would be complaining.

    4. Re:A natural progression by cyfer2000 · · Score: 1

      And they still have a lot more to do with their data, for exmaple, I would like to know who are linking the page I am visiting, this is ideal for google toolbar or who is linking certain website, which is ideal for the search interface. And google could find dead links in a website simply by compare their database. They could replace your 404 pages with their cache, if there were something but don't exist anymore. And google could also easily find secret pages linked from outside but not reachable via index.html, there is always some people use their power illegally, you know, some one may put a film on their company website to increase his or her position in a secret group.

      You can do this when you have a big data base, so I was wondering if yahoo also has such a database, if not, I will feel sorry about yahoo.

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    5. Re:A natural progression by liloconf · · Score: 0, Interesting

      I am more worried about the fact that i can't find a single notice in the google SMS faq about what they are going to do with the list of millions of active cell phone numbers. Anyone else think that after a while they could decern enough info about a number to sell the numbers to select marketers in the geographic location of the cell number? you guys all trust google way to much, I don't trust a company were 60% percent of the employees have more money then i will make in a life time...

    6. Re:A natural progression by Poltras · · Score: 1

      It may be only a matter of time before the corporate culture changes from "Do no evil" to "Do what's profitable and hide it if it's evil."

      Well, actually, it might be already the case. Gmail reading infos, statistics held on what you're searching on their engine, most people have already complained about the possibility that google might use such information. But as long as they have not announced (or one insider hasn't publicly uncovered) something that was kept shut, we won't know if they do.

      You're talking about the corporate culture, but do you have a clear (and certain) idea on what it is? They uncover a new project almost every week since they gone public, that have probably been kept on the table for a while, so it's not too much to assume they still have a lot of paper work done that's waiting to be announced... How long will it takes before one of them is just too much what we do not want?

      Another question in that direction one might ask is what is evil and what is not...

    7. Re:A natural progression by mumblestheclown · · Score: 1
      How long until we all complain about Google's monopoly of the Internet?

      You must be new to the internet. When microsoft bundles a media player, it's monopolistic and evil. When google, a closed-source, for profit, questionable-privacy, utterly nontransparent, fairly monopolistic, multi-billion dollar corporation is involved, it's "Go Google!"

    8. Re:A natural progression by DjMd · · Score: 1

      Mod parent (-1 hidden) up...

      He reminds us that Google is getting a list of cell phone numbers with geographic location. Imagine what that would be worth to SMS spammers...

      (never thought I would see the day that a Big brother style warning on Slashdot would be modded down)

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  13. Outside USA by z3021017 · · Score: 1

    Anyone know how to access this service from outside the US?

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    1. Re:Outside USA by metlin · · Score: 1

      From the website (emphasis mine)-

      Google Local enables you to search the entire web for just the stores and businesses in a specific neighborhood. Get the name, address and phone number of a business near you or in any zip code across the US.

      So, nope. Looks like it's only for the US at the moment.

    2. Re:Outside USA by Xaoswolf · · Score: 1

      well, you could always try moving...

    3. Re:Outside USA by jrumney · · Score: 2, Informative
      Try http://www.google.com/, or if you've only got an older phone: wap.google.com.

      SMS is so 1990s for the rest of the world, I guess that's why this in North America only, where its still a gee-whiz thing. I've been using google from my phone for at least 4 years now. A few kB of GPRS is far cheaper than a couple of SMS messages too.

    4. Re:Outside USA by jrumney · · Score: 1
      in any zip code across the US

      I presume that means you have to type in a zip code. What would be cool is if they did a deal with all the operators to get location info, so you could skip that bit. I know its possible with most European operators, but I guess the US is a bit of a mess with all the incompatible networks and so many local cellular providers to deal with.

    5. Re:Outside USA by metlin · · Score: 1

      True.

      That, and the fact that my operators change based on where I'm, if I've roaming.

      For instance, my cellphone is registered to T-mobile in Atlanta, but when I'm in Los Alamos, it changes to Cingular. So, that would mean that not only should they correlate, they would also have to know which user is using what provider at that moment, and where.

      Given the animosity between these guys, I don't see that happening any time soon :-/

    6. Re:Outside USA by Radius9 · · Score: 1

      That is less the issue than the privacy concerns. I was in negotiations with the different cellular providers, and there is a 3rd party company that has an agreement with most of the different carriers to provide just that information. They have their own API and service that you use to access the information. It has been stuck in a legal limbo for quite a while, as I started looking at it a year and half ago, and the last time I checked, which was about 6 months ago, they still hadn't come up with a solution that the carriers were happy with as far as users opting in to allow other people to retrieve that information. Its unfortunate that the service exists, you can get the information, through a standardized interface at that, but its just not available yet.

    7. Re:Outside USA by DiscoOnTheSide · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately not. 1MB of GPRS is $3 a month with t-mobile. If I'm gonna get GPRS. I want to be on AIM with it and to surf stuff while I can. I think i'd go over that fairly easy. Unlimited data is more than I'm willing to pay, and there's no real "Pay as you go" option, I'm afraid...

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    8. Re:Outside USA by ross.w · · Score: 1

      Since you are in .au, try 1234 I don't think it's quite the same thing, nor is it free but functionally it is similar. (it uses a voice mail type system rather than SMS) You'll never get Google having access to all the Yellow Pages info for free when Telstra is making money out of it.

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    9. Re:Outside USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I'm sure everyone's real keen to move into a Nazi state.

    10. Re:Outside USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, instead SMS, you can always use GPRS and the built in browser in your phone to access google, that's what I've been doing for the last 2 years, works in US too if your operator supports gprs

    11. Re:Outside USA by jrumney · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Unfortunately not. 1MB of GPRS is $3 a month

      So how much are 6500 SMS messages going to cost you?

    12. Re:Outside USA by interlingua.ro · · Score: 1

      It should work just fine across the world - the 'local' search is only one of the features.
      The advertised number is a shortnumber i.e. it gets expanded by your operator to something else. If someone would be so kind as to provide the full number, the whole SMS-enabled world can use the services.

  14. Ubiquitous Google by metlin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Google seems to be entering just about every area.

    Maybe their idea is to make sure that they are well established in several areas in a way that they are indispensable - the best search engine, good e-mail service, business tools and what not.

    That way, even if Google did risk crashing down, or if something did happen, people would like not that happening. That, and the benign image they portray, may work to their favour.

    I'm talking through my hat, ofcourse.

    1. Re:Ubiquitous Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, why not?

      It's important to remember the difference between a company and its products.

      The Google Search Engine is a product and it does something really well.

      The Google Company is an organization with a profitable product, a big stack of IPO capital, enormous brand recognition, and two thousand very smart people.

      It looks like the Google Company plans to leverage its brand recognition and its other assets to get into other fields as well.

      (I'm posting anonymously because ... disclosure ... I'm currently interviewing for a job at Google. And wow, with the rate of product introductions from Google, I hope that I can keep up!)

  15. Sad news ... AC dead at 19 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other news, an Anonymous Coward was found dead in his home this morning. A big slash through his chest and only a dot of the knife remained sticking out of his gut.

    1. Re:Sad news ... AC dead at 19 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him.

    2. Re:Sad news ... AC dead at 19 by Spad · · Score: 1

      It would appear that AC is posting from beyond the grave.

  16. Nice idea by francisew · · Score: 1

    This is a good thing.

    I just wonder how much scatter there is in the returned results.

  17. Google branching off the internet? by Lifix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, google is branching out of the internet and into phones... well this certainly seems like a great idea. No one wants to spend the time to load up a web browser and web pages. This would make it alot easier to get google on phones, and this introduces google onto phones that can't get on the web, but can get sms's.

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    1. Re:Google branching off the internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No one wants to spend the time to load up a web browser and web pages.

      Yeah, I'm exhausted having to make the effort to load all those web pages.

    2. Re:Google branching off the internet? by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Technically, my phone can get SMS, but because it's got a fscked keypad (left softkey dying, 1 and 6 nearly dead).

    3. Re:Google branching off the internet? by majid_aldo · · Score: 1

      in 2004, there is no such thing as 'internet', 'phone'.

      information is more connected than ever.

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  18. More sms goodness by Greg@RageNet · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've been playing around with SMS services for a while, since it's a great way to get information out to folks without them carrying any extra devices (everyone has cellphones now). I created a tool to send traffic reports via SMS for Californians, KnowTraffic and it'll even give you stock quotes if you send a message 'quote TICKER'. SMS is pretty powerful stuff that hasn't really been exploited much in the US yet.

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    1. Re:More sms goodness by swiftstream · · Score: 1

      This is very true... SMS is much more widely used, for many more different things, outside the US. For example, some airlines in SE Asia now let you check-in by sms.

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  19. Re:But the burning question for /.ers remains... by djxploit · · Score: 0

    try the help section

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  20. Text-to-speech by PiGuy · · Score: 1

    I wonder how much more difficult it would be for them to set up a phone bank interfacing with the search engine using a text-to-speech program....

    1. Re:Text-to-speech by burns210 · · Score: 1

      Like THIS? Speak your query into the phone, it spits out a X-digit number. Go to your browser and open the results page, type in your # and bam, your results... sites has a story about Google developing a voice-in -> voice-out search interface... It would take a lot of work, good voice recognition, and a good interface for returning results(clear, understandable list over voice).

    2. Re:Text-to-speech by t_parker16 · · Score: 1

      wow. wasn't that the whole idea behind loudcloud? originally i mean. kind of a loser ...

  21. Free? by Gaima · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With Google becoming a "proper business" now I'm actually quite amazed they're not charging for this. I would.
    I know it doesn't cost them much, you pay for the outgoing and incoming messages after all, but would you miss the cost of one extra message per search? Ignoring special deals, and inter-network rates, that's about 12p in the UK.
    Could probably even generate a higher per search revenue stream than the ads.
    Seems like a natural, and non-evil, way to make some money to me...

    1. Re:Free? by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      They may have cut a deal with the phone company so they do get some money from this.

    2. Re:Free? by grahamsz · · Score: 1

      In the US we generally pay for both outgoing and incoming messages (though my us message rate is less than half my uk rate, even though both are tmobile).

      Google may have been able to cut a deal with the providers since they make money from the subscriber when the messages come each way.

    3. Re:Free? by seizer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not sure how the charging structure works in the USA, but most GSM networks in the world charge a fixed termination fee for an SMS message entering their network (all UK networks have agreed on 3p, which is why you can't get a better rate (or if you can, it'll be a loss leader).

      With high traffic numbers, you can usually arrange a profit sharing deal with the provider of your services, so if Google's smart (and they are) they'll figure out a way to take a cut of the revenue. That's how the UK's "free" ISPs took off - Freeserve and the like simply said "we will generate X million minutes of phone calls a month, who'll give us a cut".

    4. Re:Free? by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Well, they've got a five digit number, which means they're partnered with the providers. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they're getting a cut...

    5. Re:Free? by FroBugg · · Score: 1

      I use AT&T Wireless over here in the States. We pay $.10 per outgoing message (although you can pay a certain amount monthly to get a better deal), but all incoming messages are completely free. You can also send email to @attwireless.com, or something like that, and it goes right through to the person's phone as SMS.

      Now, I tested Google's thing a little bit ago, and the reply message came from 46645, and I'm sure they have to pay a certain amount just to have that short number. Maybe they've got a deal with providers to increase outgoing messages and make them a few more bucks.

    6. Re:Free? by Blue+Mushroom · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One of the reasons google is the internet search god is precisely because they offer so much truely useful functionality for free to the user. If they charged for this, yes, they would make money off of it. Will it ever become a killer cellphone app if they do charge for it? No, I don't believe so. The true value of providing this service is to drive the word google that much deeper into the minds of the users. Providing so many awesome services to people for free also builds customer loyalty, something they will desperately need when microsoft really starts playing dirty (well, more like extra super more than usual dirty) to steal google's market share.

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    7. Re:Free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they charged for it, they'd provide a space for competition. Microsoft would come in and do it for nothing (remember the browser?). So any income they would get from the user would be gone in 6 months to a year anyway. Better to make it ubiquitous before charging.

      Such is the world under Microsoft. Few companies can run with a $0 fee. Google is one of those few. They may be getting provider money, but my guess is that they are breaking even. They want the high-volume market and the tie-ins.

    8. Re:Free? by Kaa · · Score: 1

      With Google becoming a "proper business" now I'm actually quite amazed they're not charging for this. I would.

      I guess that's why Google's founders are billionaires by now and you are posting on Slashdot...

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  22. Google won't be another Netscape by ShatteredDream · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google learned from Netscape's mistakes and instead of going to the government crying about MSN is constantly working on beating Microsoft to new markets in aways that tie the new markets back to Google's old original base. Knowing how competitive Google is, one would think that Microsoft, which talked about buying them out or competing directly against them, would just accept Google's existance and work with them to save money. At the rate Google is going, it'll probably be the one battle that Microsoft can't win.

    1. Re:Google won't be another Netscape by viva_fourier · · Score: 1

      That is a pretty brash statement, given that Google has only been public for a couple months. What happens when all their creative, loyal employees are able to cash out their stock options(500 employees grabbing 5 mil each) -- they could experience the classic brain drain.

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    2. Re:Google won't be another Netscape by dextroz · · Score: 1

      M$ is losing the console war, PDA war (with PDA's now becoming redundant because of hybrid cellphones and BlackBerry), cellphone-pda hybrid war (Motorola), digital content war and most likely will lose the e-mail, mediacenter, portable digital media player and online music markets.

      Admit it - the ONLY three thing that are doing well at is Windoze, office and the browser market.

      There are enough brains coming out of MIT/Stanford to keep Google busy. Besides, there is an amount of prestige (honest/do-good-for-mankind company?) associated with working for google which does NOT exist with ANY corporate entity out there. Hell Google even makes GreenPeace look bad.

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    3. Re:Google won't be another Netscape by t_parker16 · · Score: 1

      "There are enough brains coming out of MIT/Stanford to keep Google busy. Besides, there is an amount of prestige (honest/do-good-for-mankind company?) associated with working for google which does NOT exist with ANY corporate entity out there. Hell Google even makes GreenPeace look bad."

      mit!? mit!?! gak!

      but that point aside: the problem is the valuation of the stock. currently the stock is priced so high that options you'd get now are just not gonna be worth a whole lot in the next few years, unless the 2000 bubble returns. (and in some sense it has, to large internet stocks.)

      so, will these brains from stanford and berkeley follow the money? or go work for greenpeace. um, i mean google?

    4. Re:Google won't be another Netscape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever read the google privacy policy, and had a look at the cookie that expires in 2035?

      Google are not so nice! They have crafted a very warm fuzzy public image and I can't believe that people here are practically bragging about how great Google is and how much cash they stand to make.

      Google does not represent the future of the internet.

      The future of the internet is you and me!

    5. Re:Google won't be another Netscape by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1
      Hell Google even makes GreenPeace look bad.

      umm. GreenPeace makes GreenPeace look bad.

  23. So much for 411. by d3ity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Looks like 411 just got outdated. Now I can get a phone number and address for anyone via SMS. And a text message costs what? less than 5 cents? vs a 2 dollar call to information?

    1. Re:So much for 411. by jrumney · · Score: 1
      And a text message costs what? less than 5 cents? vs a 2 dollar call to information?

      Or less than a cent for the GPRS data to do a proper web search.

    2. Re:So much for 411. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if you are an AIM mobile user (it works from your desktop too but I just don't see the use) I suggest "AOLYellowPages".

      SN (7:57:43 PM): cl 90210
      AOLYellowPages (7:57:43 PM): Your location has been set to Beverly Hills, CA 90210. What are you looking for?

      SN (7:58:18 PM): hotel
      AOLYellowPages (7:58:19 PM): Search for: "hotel" in Beverly Hills, CA 90210. Enter a number to select a listing:
      1. See other categories related to "hotel"
      Featured Listings:
      2. Intercontinental Hotels & Resorts 888-211-7889
      3. Crowne Plaza Hotels & Resorts 800-236-1465
      4. Holiday Inn Hotels 800-236-1465
      5. Holiday Inn Express Hotels 800-236-1465
      Type "m" to see more, "cl" to change location, or enter a new search term.
      Hint: If you can't see everything, scroll up ===>.

      SN (7:59:42 PM): 4
      AOLYellowPages (7:59:42 PM):
      Holiday Inn Hotels
      Holiday Inn Hotels Official Site - Click Here!
      800-236-1465
      * Kids Eat Free Everyday!
      * Book Online and Receive the Lowest Rate Guaranteed
      * To Make A Reservation: 800-236-1465

      Type "b" to go back to the previous menu, "cl" to change location, or enter a new search term.

      Even gives a map if you can follow the links.

    3. Re:So much for 411. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like 411 just got outdated ...perhaps for people with cell phones. Believe it or not, us cell phone free people still exist, and there's a good number of us :D.

    4. Re:So much for 411. by rnelsonee · · Score: 1

      I don't know... I just used this service to get my sister's address and phone number. While the SMS I got back was correct (and actually returned more listings with the same last name), it took about an hour to receive it. Maybe it's under a heavy load due to /., but unless I can get it in 30 secs, I think I'll still pay the $0.99 for a 411 call than the 2x$.05 for the SMS excange. Just my $.02 for now.

  24. Yeah, but it's nothing that new really... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People have been googling from WAP phones for years now.

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    1. Re:Yeah, but it's nothing that new really... by Carthag · · Score: 1

      Also in the more SMS-savvy countries in Europe, there are several services for finding train/bus-times, looking up phone numbers, finding food, taxis, basically everything you can think of. They usually cost a lot, though.

    2. Re:Yeah, but it's nothing that new really... by igrp · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yup, I ditched my cell phone provider's WAP homepage in favor of Google's a year and a half ago (I still have a bunch of portal subcategories bookmarked though).

      I don't really use WAP all that much since I usually have a WiFi-enabled PDA with me and a networked computer within 100 yards (and that's the outside figure). But it's a pretty useful service when you're on the road and don't have luxury of IEEE 802.11 coverage.

      Google's interface works really well on cell phones. They even have a system called "Google Numbers" (IIRC) which is basically a T9 type of system (you don't hit the #2 key twice to get a "b" character -- you just input numbers and let Google figure out what you mean). The interface is pretty slick and it works well even on a small, low-resolution cell phone screen.

      The problem is, most other websites just don't. I realize there's really not a whole lot Google can do about it though. That's why these days, I usually don't even bother using WAP for anything except checking sports scores and headlines. It's just easier to use my cell phone and PDA (the only thing I use Bluetooth for these days -- and it rocks).

    3. Re:Yeah, but it's nothing that new really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WAP is usually pretty expensive. I'm on AT&T, and unless I buy a "package" of transfer for a monthly fee, I have to pay 3 cents per kilobyte. That adds up very quickly, especially since my phone has an XHTML browser and thus mMode serves tables and such to it.

  25. Are they evil yet ? by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 4, Funny
    *eyes on watch*

    "I think it's time for Google to go evil in 3...2...1..."

  26. ... and speech-recognition - try TellMe by SlyDe · · Score: 1

    1-800-555-TELL
    It ain't google, but it gets you lots of useful info without thumb-boarding a bunch of TXT to get it.

  27. Re:But the burning question for /.ers remains... by rts008 · · Score: 1

    sure, just type in "Ho's.x", x= your zip code!

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  28. Einstein would be proud by WilyKit · · Score: 1

    Fr:466-45
    Calculator by Google:
    one kilogram =
    8.98755179e+13
    kiloJoules

  29. New meaning to by cdc179 · · Score: 1

    /. effect. On the count of 1....2....3...commence phone dotting GOOGL!

  30. Doesn't SMS cost money for in/out? by brendanoconnor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do not use my cellphone for much of anything except receiving calls and calling out. Does sending and receiving an sms cost money? If so that could add up. I mean, when I search google, sometimes I do not pick the right wording, and I get bad results, whilst other times I pick the right wording. A bad series of wording could cost me several out goings, and maybe since data has to be transmitted back, some incomings as well.

    Correct me if I am wrong but this sounds like a good way nickel and dime the SMS users. Although they did send it. Oh well.

    Brendan

    1. Re:Doesn't SMS cost money for in/out? by DiscoOnTheSide · · Score: 1

      well, a lot of phone companies allow you to buy blocks of text messages. Right now I buy 300 msgs a month for $2.99. T-Mobile now has a deal of $9.99 a month for unlimited texts, and I'm thinking of upgrading. Also consider that I know a lot of cell companies do this, I dont know the exact prices..., but 411 with T-Mobile costs $.75 a shot. Thats a lot and those people always shoot me to the wrong number. Here I can pay 5 cents if I have to and get a list to pick from. Thats spiffy in my book.

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    2. Re:Doesn't SMS cost money for in/out? by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 2, Informative
      Right now I buy 300 msgs a month for $2.99. T-Mobile now has a deal of $9.99 a month for unlimited texts

      At $3 for each 300 msgs (I'm assuming this isn't only for the first 300), you could buy 900 for $9. So does the fact that you are instead spending $10 for unlimited messages really mean that you're going to use more than 900 a month?! That's 30 a day. There are people who really use that much?
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    3. Re:Doesn't SMS cost money for in/out? by FroBugg · · Score: 1

      Depends on the provider. AT&T Wireless charges $.10 for each outgoing (unless you buy a plan that includes a certain amount), but all incoming are free.

    4. Re:Doesn't SMS cost money for in/out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I use well over 1100 a month. Luckily real wireless plans have unlimited SMS built in.

    5. Re:Doesn't SMS cost money for in/out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Asian schoolgirls.

    6. Re:Doesn't SMS cost money for in/out? by caryw · · Score: 1

      T-Mobile won't let you "piggyback" multiple $2.99/300 SMS packages. And the 300 SMS's is a ripoff. It used to be $2.99 for 500.

      I'm grandfathered in on an old unlimited WAP/unlimitied SMS package for $5/month thank god. Their prices for minutes keep going down but they keep rising on extra features.

  31. Question is... by C_Kode · · Score: 1

    If I use this service will the *collect* my number and start spamming me? If not now when? I really like the idea, but will they use that *you have personal business with me, so I can nag you at dinner* crap that credit card companies use to call you even though you're on the no call list.

    Upset would be an understatement if I started getting spam SMS messages.

    1. Re:Question is... by savagedome · · Score: 1

      Add yourself (if you haven't already) to 'do not call' list. Also, I think telemarketers could not call on mobile phones even before that list anyway.

  32. These guys do it too... by Coming+soon! · · Score: 1

    synfonic.com

    They had a bit of press yesterday as well. They don't have the fancy short code yet though.

    1. Re:These guys do it too... by Coming+soon! · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...the press piece.

  33. Froogle price checks the killer app by ewg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Froogle price checks are the killer app here.

    Standing in the middle of a retail store, you can gauge pricing versus online retailers.

    Somewhere, Alan Greenspan is smiling.

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    1. Re:Froogle price checks the killer app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      somewhere, a corporate suit applauded your use of yet another terrible, overused buzzword.

    2. Re:Froogle price checks the killer app by Sarth · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Froogle price checks the killer app by ewg · · Score: 1

      Didn't know about Froogle via WML, will have to check it out. Thanks for pointing it out.

      Froogle via Google SMS is admittedly a bit limited because it only returns the first search result; WML Froogle looks very interesting.

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  34. Google SMS privacy policy by SlyDe · · Score: 4, Informative
    (Ok, I know, shameless karma whoring....)
    http://www.google.com/sms/privacy.html

    Information that we collect and how we use it

    When you send a message to Google SMS, we log an encrypted version of the incoming phone number, the wireless carrier associated with the number, and the date and time of the transaction. We use this data to analyze the message traffic in order to operate, develop and improve our services. Google will never rent or sell your phone number to any third party, nor will we use your phone number to initiate a call or SMS message to you without your permission. Your wireless carrier and other service providers also collect data about your SMS usage, and their practices are governed by their own privacy policies.

  35. And this is why Google are billionaires by arhar · · Score: 1

    This is awesome. Bravo.

  36. SMS in what countries?? by vitalyb · · Score: 1

    Would be useful to mention that it works only in USA..? It doesn't work from Israel anway ;).

  37. MOD PARENT SIDEWAYS by WillerZ · · Score: 1

    +1 funny, -1 old reference

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  38. Google's doing all kinds of stuff by fawlty154 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Google labs http://labs.google.com/ shows all kinds of interesting stuff Google is cooking up.

  39. Odd Choice of Country by Spad · · Score: 1

    I know Google is US-based, but given the relative popularity of mobile phones (cell phones to you Americans) in Europe - especially the popularity of SMS (Almost 1 billion a month sent in the UK alone) - would it not have made sense to at least include Europe in the initial roll-out, if not focus the service there entirely?

    1. Re:Odd Choice of Country by bogie · · Score: 1

      "popularity of mobile phones (cell phones to you Americans)"

      Yes we call them that here as well.

      "would it not have made sense to at least include Europe in the initial roll-out, if not focus the service there entirely?"

      Not if they are testing out the service first and why would they focus the service for Europe only?

      "4. Does Google SMS work everywhere? Can I find pizza restaurants in Palermo?

      Right now, Google SMS only works in the U.S. We're working hard to make it available when and wherever you're on the go. In the meantime, how about a little slice of heaven in Little Italy? (try 'pizza 10013') "

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    2. Re:Odd Choice of Country by Orinthe · · Score: 1

      I agree entirely--I'm in Japan right now, where EVERYONE has a keitai (mobile phones to you Europeans).

      Then again, I can just go to google.com (or google.co.jp) on my phone's web browser, so I guess it doesn't matter that much. Might be a bit more expensive though, email, messaging, web, GPS navigation, and other services are charged by the packet (at least for AU customers). You can get unlimited plans, but the service, plus the (more expensive) phone to support it, cost a LOT of money.

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  40. SMS slashdotted? by the_pointman · · Score: 1

    My messages are timing out...looks like you can never escape hordes of geeks.

  41. Like many Google technologies by bubba451 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Like many Google technologies, they'll probably put it out there to see if it sticks before thinking about making money from it. That's pretty much what's happened with Google News, Orkut, Gmail, etc.

    And even if they never charge for it, they're reinforcing the notion of Google as the search king, which keeps people coming to google.com.

  42. That short code doesn't work by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

    I tried using that shortcode, but my phone says 'invalid address.' Wazzup?

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  43. Slashdot = Google Press Center by blackhaze · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Is anyone tired of reading slashdot with all the google press-releases? It's been like this for a couple of days now.

    We need focus on another search-company to compete with google; these guys have had to spotlight for far too long!

    Why are all these nerds turned into blind google zombies? ;)

  44. I got some really weird responses by digid · · Score: 2, Funny

    I sent the message "define hello" and got the following response in two seperate messages:

    "(1of2)Glossary * Hello: Help me please Here Holy man Hot Hotel
    How are you? How much is it? Ahlan Aounni affak Hna Shaikh Skhoun Hamy Funak Labass Alek"

    "(2of2)Bshhall Yisswa hada"

    No Joke

    1. Re:I got some really weird responses by rafikki · · Score: 1

      I sent "D dave" and got something back about a hermit who lives in a cave near the keep of the four worlds.

    2. Re:I got some really weird responses by syrinje · · Score: 1
      Feed that back into google and it looks like the English-Maghrebi dictionary is where the responses are from!

      truly weird....why would it do that!?

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    3. Re:I got some really weird responses by netsharc · · Score: 1

      Ha, maybe it guessed digid (my grandparent poster) ended up in a, um, Maghrebi neighborhood, and needed help with the local language.

      Next question Google has to answer for me is, WTF is Maghrebi?!?

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    4. Re:I got some really weird responses by netsharc · · Score: 1

      Oh, re-reading the page, I saw that Maghrebi is Moroccan..

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    5. Re:I got some really weird responses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That appears to be an entry from the Amber Dictionary whatever that is... a dictionary about some fantasy book.

  45. Rest of the world by Old+Wolf · · Score: 1

    Is this accessible outside of the US ?

  46. Re:But the burning question for /.ers remains... by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 2, Funny

    If it's a burning question ... ... well, whomever you last laid wasn't telling you the truth when he/she said "but it's all cleared up now!"

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  47. Revenue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the revenue stream is pretty clear
    It's a "short number", therefore they already have a deal worked out with the telcos. I dunno, maybe their outgoing messages are free, the telco collects the 4.95 cents per message from you with your "10021 Burrito" request, and Google collects 0.05 cents from the telco?

    Obviously this service is driving up SMS usage making all mobile cos very happy, I'm sure happy enough to give Google a cut of each one sent.

  48. outside USA by andufo82 · · Score: 0

    when is it gonna be available outside the states?

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  49. The end of the pub quiz as we know it? by GrahamCox · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...or will they just become fastest googler contests?

  50. Wow. Works well by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Informative
    I have unlimited text messages - so I sent a few. Worked EXACTLY as I would expect.

    Woah. I'll be using this one...

    -Ben

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    1. Re:Wow. Works well by cpfeifer · · Score: 1

      I tried it from my TMobile phone and didn't get an answer, who is your provider?

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    2. Re:Wow. Works well by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      Verizon Wireless

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  51. Macros for cell phones? by rafikki · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What do you think the odds are of some cell phones makers starting to introduce a simplified interface for this? That might be a possibility for Google to make some money, partnering with makers to slap the Goole trademark on their phones. Normally someone might have to pay to put their label or trademark on someone else's product, but with Google's name-brand recognition...

  52. Everything old is new again. by Kent+Brewster · · Score: 1

    AirFlash and Viag Interkom did this in 2001 ... and Orange UK did it in May. Perhaps the technology is finally Ready for Prime Time?

  53. open letter to google by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    google pleeeeeease launch an actual sms sending service! most services out there are absolutely crap, o2's paid service for example (consider that they are a pretty large phone company) is so shockingly bad that i just smashed my house phone to bits in absolute rage after trying to use it - its almost like they designed it just to piss people off! Tiscali has a free service but they can't even manage the most basic interface design. Others are so bloated and adverty that it takes several minutes to send a message that would have taken several seconds on an instant messenger. Google could wipe the market clean all around the world. Text messaging is a really pathetically crap restricted format but sometimes you have to use it and have no choice, google please make my life easier, i'll pay you.

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  54. SMS Spam Filters... by digid · · Score: 1

    If Google makes SMS really popular the SMS specification better have a way to deter spamming. The last thing I want is to have to apply a spam filter to my incoming SMS messages on my cell phone.

  55. Does this spook anyone else? by brianlawson · · Score: 1

    Even just a little? I clicked over to the Google site to read about it, and the samples and screen shots of addresses were troubling. It seems like there would be a lot of opportunity to use this power of instant-knowledge-about-anyone for evil as opposed to good. Granted, I know that you could perform the same query at home. But, I'm more worried about the "heat of the moment" type decisions that would lead someone to want a person's address immediately.

  56. nice if it worked by darkstar2002 · · Score: 0

    This would be nice if my cell phone company let me send the message. Alltel sent me a message back saying i have to use a 10 digit number.

  57. Flight information by DarthBart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can't wait till they get real time flight information into it. Nothing like being able to SMS "COA123" and get the flight's location and ETA based on what's coming in from the FAA data feeds.

  58. Outside US... by bonhomme_de_neige · · Score: 1

    What if I live in Australia - is it possible to message a US short code like an international number? (ie. if I SMS +146645? something tells me that wouldn't work...)

    Admittedly, it would be much less useful without the business and address searches ... but the definitions and calculator would still be handy...it would be nice if they'd provide a way for international users to play too ;p

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    1. Re:Outside US... by Nermal6693 · · Score: 1

      I'm in New Zealand and tried what you're suggesting, and it failed to send.

    2. Re:Outside US... by apesaga · · Score: 2, Informative

      SMS shortcodes are only valid on certain networks - the ones you pay for usually. For example, here in the UK it costs around £150 per month per network for a dedicated shortcode. If you were only interested in targeting customers on one particular network you would only pay for a shortcode on that network. So, outside the US this is unlikely to work as Google won't have activated their code on any networks other than those in the US. It's not like you can +44 (or whatever) a shortcode to access it internationally.

  59. FAQ by Rebel_Princess · · Score: 2, Informative
    From the FAQ


    Does Google SMS work everywhere? Can I find pizza restaurants in Palermo?


    Right now, Google SMS only works in the U.S. We're working hard to make it available when and wherever you're on the go. In the meantime, how about a little slice of heaven in Little Italy? (try 'pizza 10013')

  60. Hooker.64114 - Result... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    University of Kansas.

    LOL.

  61. Does *not* work on Verizon by Dr.+Mortimer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I noticed that I got no result replies on my Verizon phone when I searched for "pizza 60603". I called Verizon and spoke with a lead SMS/data tech to ask why it didn't work. They said that they do not support this and that they would not unless they entered into some sort of formal contract with Google. My big question is: what does it take for Verizon to actually give something useful to its users for no extra charge?!

    1. Re:Does *not* work on Verizon by ShanTheMan · · Score: 1

      Works with Verizon for me, not sure why you are having problems with it.

    2. Re:Does *not* work on Verizon by Dr.+Mortimer · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I just tried it a minute ago and still no reply. The guy at SMS support said there was nothing wrong with my text messaging, and in fact I can still do AIM over it. Weird.

    3. Re:Does *not* work on Verizon by ToolsDrummer83 · · Score: 1

      i have verizon, and my phone is the LG VX6000. i've been trying all night, and i havent gotten any messages back. weird

    4. Re:Does *not* work on Verizon by Dr.+Mortimer · · Score: 1

      Hmm, did you port your number from another carrier? I did, and I suspect that's the problem.

    5. Re:Does *not* work on Verizon by jmcmurry · · Score: 1

      Doesn't work for me either, and my number is the original Verizon number on this Verizon phone. I sent an email to the support address like a good beta tester...

    6. Re:Does *not* work on Verizon by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Same here on Sprint PCS, with an SPH-A660 and a former Nextel number. I'd try on my Nokia 3588i with a native Sprint number, but it costs $0.10, and the 1 and 6 keys are nearly dead on it...

  62. most phones support this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    hold down '4' and it will enter a '4' instead of having to cycle through all of the letters on the 4 key.

  63. Pizza in Canada! by Equis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I typed in "pizza 48201" to find the Domino's around the corner here in Detroit. It gave me three results in WINDSOR, ONTARIO, CANADA.

    I wonder if they deliver...

  64. And while you're at it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Look up some stock quotes. GOOG is up about 40% since it started trading publicly. Professional traders made such a fuss trying to cool down interest in the stock when it appeared.

  65. Precious ... by Xconnect · · Score: 0

    And they'll name it "SMoogleS" ... *evil laughter*

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  66. But ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok its cool but how many people use SMS in US? Come to South East Asia and you would know what SMS is all about. When I am in local train or bus, not a minute goes by without a SMS being sent or received. Google where are thou?

  67. google copied me by eneye.seekay · · Score: 1

    i was working for an sms company this past january-march. it was a pretty bunk company (i.e. i never got paid and am still awaiting a hearing to try to get money from this loser). i setup a couple GSM modems and wrote PHP code to run there SMS Marketing web application. I also wrote some scripts to do Google searches via SMS through the GSM modems. i'm probably the only person ever to use it, but it was very useful...i'm glad to see Google did the same thing, albeit, a little more advanced searching capability. i have a treo 600 so returning links would be nice. also, there are no results for a lot of queries.

  68. GOOGL works fine on my Verizon phone... by tachyonflow · · Score: 1

    I just sent "pizza.80203" to 46645 and I received the google results as two text message replies. I have a Motorola v60 phone with Verizon service. Maybe there's something weird with your phone?

  69. This service rocks by wldkos · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I hope google adds more features to this service.

  70. SMS Alerts by manmanic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seems like an obvious crossover to me... Google could combine this kind of SMS service with the search alerting concept to provide regular alerts of information that would be useful on a cellphone - price reductions, new shops opening - and I'm sure later on there will be traffic, weather, etc...

  71. Tie food? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would you want to feed your tie? :)
    Is it alive now, threatening to strangle you?

  72. Still no dictionary? by BarryNorton · · Score: 1

    This is close, but I think still no one has implemented the service I was proposing a couple of years ago - a SMS dictionary service.

    Imagine: you're sitting reading in a park, want a good definition of a word so you type it into your phone and get back instantly the OED definition.

    Call me a geek, but I'd pay for that...

    1. Re:Still no dictionary? by Nukenin · · Score: 1

      Actually, Google SMS should respond to "D " with the dictionary definiton of .

    2. Re:Still no dictionary? by Nukenin · · Score: 1

      Actually, Google SMS will respond to a "D " message with the definition of .

    3. Re:Still no dictionary? by BarryNorton · · Score: 1
      But does this primarily respond with WordNet definitions, like Googling "define:antidisestablishmentarianism"?

      In case it's not obvious, http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aantidisest ablishmentarianism fails completely,

      unlike http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=antidises tablishmentarianism

      and http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/findword?query_type= word&queryword=antidisestablishmentarianism

      (The latter needing to come from a suitable IP, like a UK uni, or with an account...)

    4. Re:Still no dictionary? by Nukenin · · Score: 1

      I've not had it work for me yet (not sure if it's a failure of Google SMS or just my phone provider's inability or refusal to handle SMS messages to/from Google), but judging from the example displayed on their "How To Use" page, the response(s) received would be the same as if you'd Googled for "define ". So not quite as useful as a pure dictionary lookup.

  73. Wow by moonbender · · Score: 1

    Google really does a lot of things now. And many of them have the chance of becoming as essential as their web searching feature and perhaps their ad business already is.

    Google does web searching, advertising, usenet portal, web boards, webmail, price listings, news aggregation, searching within books, within white pages, within maps, and various other sources, paid web searching, blogging, a dictionary and a calculator and now SMS access to some of their services - I'm sure that if this takes off, access to many more will follow. It also does the whole thing in multiple countries, ie. I just got the mapping service that used to be exclusive to Canada and the US (I think) here in Germany, along with train schedule information.

    And the weird thing is, as far as I can see they are as good or better at every single of those services as any other service provider specialising on it. One of the reasons for that is the fact that they're smart about it: apart from some core services, they don't try to replace existing services but rather sticks to being a portal easing access to the information.
    So when looking for maps of an area, you get multiple links to prominent mapping services showing just that area. And instead of creating a whole new train schedule for Germany, they just translate your query to one for the (very good) official service of the train company. The key difference being that I already have quick access to Google, and that I can use a written query to get the information instead of using a form. In a way, Google is the renaisance of the CLI over GUIs.

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  74. Question by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 2

    Does anyone already do this? It sounds like a winning little service.

  75. SMS: How's it all work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    How do companies bridge the gap between Internet and the SMS network?

    I know conceptually the SMS network is sort of like a little Internet. There are SMSC's that carriers connect to, and all the SMSC's exchange routing information with the carriers about what phone numbers are in what status, and so on.

    But say I wanted to get my own SMS number.. in whatever form, I dont care if it's NPANXX#### or something custom.. but I want to be able to take in and send out messages to the SMS network, and I dont want to do it via stupid SMTP relays and such.

    What sort of companies do things like this?

    This is pretty OT; direct email replies would be great, and I'll provide summaries to anyone requesting such (sun-managers style) :)

    The e-alemay consists of the word (mitigator) (no parenthesis of course) then at-sign followed by the domain gmail and TLD .com.

  76. "Not sent, try again later" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not working for me, sigh /. effect already?

    1. Re:"Not sent, try again later" by stevel · · Score: 1

      That would be your wireless provider, not Google. It worked perfectly for me and I got a response within 30 seconds. This is so cool and useful - well worth the dime I get charged for sending SMS.

  77. I LOVE GOOGLE by martin_b1sh0p · · Score: 1

    Just another reason for me to never use another search engine again (not that I have in over 2 or 3 years anyway). Several times I've been on the road and thought "If I could just get to a local computer a do a quick google search"...and even though I can use my phone to "surf" the web (if you can even call it surfing) it's pricey and the interface sucks. Now I can just SMS it to google!!! Ugh! I love google!!!

  78. They don't have to put Googleads in the SMS by EqualSlash · · Score: 1

    Though it's free now(only normal sms charges) ..google may eventually charge a fee per sms through your cellular provider. Easily, that could bring in a lot more money for them.

  79. Google uses SMS to quitely build cell database? by zaphodb001 · · Score: 1

    For every innovation Google comes up with they must have a core economic reason for doing it. 1.) Do they see the cellular carriers as a big customer for targeted advertising? 2.) Why do they need to build a large database of cellular phone numbers and active customers? Are they seeding the market? 3.) What is the tie in with gmail? Sure, I tried the service and it works, works nicely but after about six tries I realized that I just gave Google my cellular number and a whole bunch of other "information" about me and my habits. Careful what you give away in return for something useful and *free*.

  80. Google not the first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another company called Synfonic launched their SMS search service a day ahead of Google. Website at www.synfonic.com. Heck, it even made SearchEngineWatch and Yahoo Finance:

    http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/041007-24 4
    http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041006/sfw010_1.htm l

    So does it matter that Google was not the first to do this?