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Google Eyes Domain Registration Market
1sockchuck writes "Google is now an ICANN-approved domain name registrar, an intriguing move that could be tied to its blog hosting service, Blogger. Yahoo recently dropped its domain prices to $4.98, as hosting companies use domains as a cheap way to lure customers. Registrar status could allow Google to compete aggressively on price. Bloggers seem to resist paying for hosting, so cheap domains might help Google's plans for world domination."
They may replace [insert favorite registrar here] if they have good pricing!
DAMN YOU OCTODOG! DAMN YOU TO HELL!
They could easily pair this with a free hosting solution, something like Geocities, perhaps - a gig of free website development space, as long as you put the AdWords on it.
can I host my website out of gmail?
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Email, books, images, video, domain name registration and more...When will they run everything ont he internet?
Will domains registered through them rank higher in search results?
I Am My Own Worst Enemy
I love Google...
What else is new?
It seems that Google is now competing for Microsofts held place as world ruler. They are literally getting into every buisness available. So far so good, but what's next? Google-approved real-estate? Google water supply?
I think google is throwing stones at random hoping that atleast one will hit the mark like the search engine thing.
I know the world exists because I exist.
I get mine for $5 at icdsoft. I just had a client go out and pay $140 for two years with NetworkSolutions. There is a big variation. I can bet that when Google starts letting people register, no one will be paying Network Solutions that much anymore.
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This is a much more attractive alternative to Verisign, even over fun names like GoDaddy, and NameBargain.
Having done ISP work back in the day, I have personally submitted registrations on thousands of domains with the venerable Network Solutions. With Verisign and the recent mix, I have lost tons of my own personal domains I have collected over the years -- and registration on these things is quite expensive! Finally there are alternatives, and I think I would trust Google over Microsoft, Verisign, or the US Government. This is my Internet, and I don't want it fucked-up!
Also, I think that Google doing root nameserver fun would be more like a DNS cache for them.
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also known as a Googleplex
Is it only me, or does this particular word usage implies something not quite honest? I don't see anything wrong with having a loss leader - a product you may sell at prices below cost in order to gain customers which then can be upsold with other services - hosting and etc.
Oh praise the Metal Lord! I present the one commandment: God needs domain buyers!
Bite me. Seriously, I enjoy it.
Google has a very kind policy when it comes to third-party GMail hacks: They don't care. That is, they don't care at all. Google is permitted to change its structure and/or features at any time without telling a soul, rendering your application/extension obsolete. Google hasn't got the time to go after people using GMail as a personal server, nor do the staff have time to allow them and accept responsibility for their functioning. It's a fair system, in my mind.
How else do you think this thing innovation happens, solid business plans? Perhaps in market share, and dollars. What about having a good service that is preferable to whatever else is there? I think that taking wild stabs sometimes does pay off, though I bet they are more general pokings than flailing stabbings. Of course -- we'll see, won't we?
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For those of you who missed it... A Googolplex is a 1 with a googol zeros after it.
Great ! Now our domains can get hijacked at newer, bigger registrars! Thank you ICANN !
They probably won't allow hosting out of gmail, but I won't be too surprised when they are offering dirt cheap hosting to go with thier dirt cheap domain names. It's all about market share with Google.
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Holy christ on a bike, what can they do next? Seriously, I can visualize them offering a Geocities-a-like system or something based on this. yourname.gsite.com ?
There are 2 types of people in the world, those who find that stupid binary joke funny, and those who don't.
I like their newsgroup interface. It's convenient and easy to use.
Parent is not a troll. This is a valid question, and I'd sure like to know what the answer is myself.
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I for one, welcome our new www.domain-overlords.net
and now back to the fallout shelter...
Just wait until they land on the dark blue spaces, baby. I built 11 hotels on Boardwalk and 8 of them on Park Place. One of these times around the board, they're gonna desperately need that $200 from passing Go, because rent on my dark blue properties is $11 billion a hit.
I.e., affordable certificates, give verisign more competition - call 'em gcerts or something.
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I mean, .GOO has so many possibilities in pr0n alone. And nanotech.
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Have you ever been to a turkish prison?
Last I checked, they aren't becoming a portal. Google search is still Google search.
However, Google as a company is branching out into related (and sometimes not so related) services. Now that they are publically owned they need to actually make real profits instead of just staying afloat. Becoming a domain registrar seems like a very good way to make money directly instead of relying on advertizing, and at the same time bring in more people to increase the value of their ads and profit that way.
As for Google Groups "sucking", that's an opinion. I can't really agree or disagree since I don't use it though...
I don't think anyone really has a problem with a company doing what it can to make a profit, providing that they aren't stabbing others in the back, hoarding patents or copyrights, subverting other industries with bogus standards, using asinine legal threats or trying to push through oppressive laws to do it. (ala RIAA/MPAA/MS/SCO etc)
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yahoo DOES NOT offer $4.98 per domain --- terms are strictly limited to ONE domain per NEW customer; after that, their $9.95 per domain per year applies:
"Domains price Offer is open to new customers that purchase Domains. Limit one offer per customer, and one use per customer on a single account. Offer expires February 08, 2005 at 11:59 PM PST. Offers may not be combined with any other offers or discounts, separated, redeemed for cash, or transferred. Other terms and conditions apply; see the Yahoo! Small Business Terms of Service when you sign up."
Google is tired of everyone learning what they are up to via domain name registerations.
Now, they will be able to register domain names for secret projects, and keep the domain names secret :)
I've said it before and I'll say it again here. When Google creates its own Linux distro incorporating Google features into the desktop, that's when Microsoft can put up the sign, "Last one out turn off the lights."
I'm really enjoying being able to use the Googlenet.
Google tends to have a good eye for simple interfaces for managing things:
- Search
- Gmail
- Blogger
- Picasa
- Google Desktop
If google carries that tradition forward, I could see myself transfering my domains to them rather them, since they tend to be:
1. Competitive pricing seems crucial at google. Everything is free or low cost.
2. Quality
3. Good support. Google does respond. I had an issue with Google Desktop, and Gmail... both times I got a quick response. Amazingly. I was shocked.
I can't say the above for any of the major registrar's on the market.
So if Google expands beyond bloggers and allows domain (especially bulk) registration/transfer.... I'm in.
Everybody's speculating on how this could let Google charge a fee for Bloggers to have their own domain name. Bloggers already have an FTP to your own server option so this doesn't add much.
Surely much more interesting is the concept of Gmail with your own domain name.
With an administration tool allowing Joe User to setup family and friend create email accounts under your their domain name with Google taking care of all the scanning/filtering/storage.
Such an option would give them something different to Hotmail and YahooMail to the point of being something worth paying for. Sure some ISP's already offer this but none of the web interfaces I've seen touch GMail.
That might even explain why it's still in beta...
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The whole entire Internet will soon be pwn3d by Google. Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
I bought a domain from someone once who originally bought the name from Yahoo domains. When I tried to get it transferred, I ran into a whole host of problems. The official reply from Yahoo when I tried to contact their technical support staff:
"Dear valued Yahoo customer,
We are sorry, but Yahoo is unable to offer technical support for Yahoo domains."
So I tried calling Melbourne IT (Yahoo resells Melbourne registrations), who of course told me to call Yahoo.
I wouldn't worry much about Yahoo having competition, tehy seem to be doing a very good job of shooting themselves in the foot anyway.
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I know that most of us love Google - I'm no exception. But I get worried of any company who starts weilding such power... This is very bad news to all the small hosting companies out there - who are probably worried about what hosting plans Google will be offering next (and it is the next logical step). In a few years, we'll be wiping our ass wiith Google toilet paper! (I wonder if it will have adwords on it?)
i have to admit, I love google, but this is getting sort of ridiculous don't you think?
what's next- Google silverware and Google cereal?
Nah, they'd just stick the word beta in the logo and thats your warning.
We need to force all blogs onto the .blog domain - then we can just filter out all of them at the DNS.
Billions of pictures of peoples cats would no longer terrify the world, woohoo!
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I think of it a bit differently. It's not really about the desktop at all. Microsoft was born in the era when the desktop operating system ruled. But Google was born in the Internet Era, and it shows in their strategy. Their goal seems to be to develop a wide array of applications that live on the Internet, thereby obviating the need for a desktop monopoly. If everything is on the Net, who really cares what OS you're using?
Microsoft comes at it from the opposite direction, attempting to extend their desktop operating system to the Internet. But the Achilles Heel of this strategy is backward compatibility. Microsoft has to support its legacy operating systems, and no matter what they do to attempt to take over the Internet, they can't adequately leverage their desktop OS monopoly because they have to first convince people that it's worth the money to upgrade to gain the benefits of the Microsoft Internet.
Google is constantly improving their applications and they don't have to worry about legacy operating system issues. They can simply piggyback off of Internet standards and when they do push into the OS, they're leveraging Microsoft's immense investment in Windows. It doesn't really matter whether Linux, Windows, or the Mac is dominant, as far as Google is concerned. As long as no one is able to box them out by controlling access to the Web, Google is limited only by their ability to deliver great web apps.
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
all your domain are belong to us
I'm still waiting for them to change the disclaimer for when you search for Jew.
Quote:
Offensive Search Results
www.google.com/explanation We're disturbed about these results as well. Please read our note here.
It use to be that when you searched for Jew you would get anti-semitism. However several people managed to raise their Jewish results making Google's disclaimer obsolete.
I sent a comment to Google's customer service and they responded by telling me that I had the wrong department with no reference to who I should contact.
Go figure.
Assuming the idea is to allow Joe User to setup a home email & website all via google, would it be possible to leverage the infamous google cookie? Since the cookie would already provide information on how said Joe User searches, could tracking him back to his homepage provide solid, real-life demographics (45% of Joe's who like beer have a family page etc...) Could this be where they're going with this?
imagine bloogle
Man, I wonder when googleOS is going to be released. I'm ready for it.
... perhaps a new entry in the hosting market. After all, they do have a deep understanding of distributing content around the world. It also makes it somewhat easier for them to crawl the content of said servers.
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They need to actually have a bar.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
Personally, I think google's controlling all these different things is great. They have delivered on almost every single thing they've attempted. They combine power and simplicity in a way everyone loves, and maybe when most of your services are through google, they can link some things together (with appropiate security though) if google ever becomes corrupt then we can just move on
I often find myself writing the company name in the google search field than trying to find a randomly similar url. I think having specific domain names is loosing its importance these days because the namespace is so highly utilized.
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The parent post sums up Google's strategy for future growth fairly well I think. Mod parent up!
I am defenseless. Use your button. Mod me down with all of your hatred.
I think it was because the parent repeated what was in the actual article summary...
Just a hunch.
Most of the people who could be considered "experienced" moderators have a tendency to disable mod points in their preferences.
So, rather than having a bar for minimum skill level when moderating, slashdot actually seems to have a bar for MAXIMUM skill level.
How the hell can the first post of a topic be...oh wait.
How are they not becoming a portal? They are doing EVERYTHING that other popular portals do/did.
If you want to get into abuse of a system then I think the argument can be made that since the parent post in question added the sig in to the body of the comment it is no longer a sig in the proper sense. A proper sig can be disabled as was noted. Who's abusing what here?
Since there is already a system built to try and prevent moderation abuse, meta-moderation, and none to prevent anyone from posting their sig in the body of a comment I would suggest that the abuse here was made by the sig rather than the moderation.
Really, I know what I'm doing...Ohhhh, look at the shiny buttons!
That's when Microsoft will start using their IP portfolio to sue the crap out of Google for infringement on the OS patents.
Thats kind of what Im doing right now. Ive got an email server at my domain that just forawards evreythign to gmail, and gmail just labels evreything I send out as having been sent from said email address (well the reply to anyways).
It's clear that google will sell domain name powered by gmail accounts. So registering yourfavouritenamehere.com with google you will get @yourfavouritenamehere.com mail addresses trasparently usable through gmail webmail.
One of the most important changes that must take place for the Internet to stay healthy is the decertification of Verisign as the
Google has proven that it knows how to deliver reliable services to the Internet, and has proven that it's a reasonably responsible company. Hopefully, Google's current move can position it to eventually take Verisign's place in the future.
This is a web portal.
This is not a web portal.
Despite the growing collection of features Google offers, they sure do a good job of not becoming a portal.
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How Google is actually starting to miss stuff posted to the web? Is it robots.txt or other mechanisms keeping Google out.
No real statistics just seems like searches that turned up a ton of hits previously now only turn up a few. And no not Pr0n, but techie stuff.
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When the URL namespace gets crowded, a good search engine is the answer. The more people register domain names, the more they need to use a search engine to disambiguate the various URLs that may or may not correspond to what they're looking for. Providing cheap domain registration will lead more people to use Google to search for a particular website rather than attempting to remember a URL.
perhaps in the future google will have explanded their services to encompass most of what users need; and then begin offering affordible high speed internet access to those services...
and perhaps a mystical new internet that google runs themselves which eventually becomes more popular than our current one; I don't suppose I'd mind the change. Either the new one sucks and all the script kiddies go to it - thus speeding up the current internet greatly, or I get cheap, quick internet access.
and perhaps google will become a company that makes only chairs. Or spontaniously explodes sending forth horrible acid.
What distinguished portal from non-portal? Just because Google's website isn't as busy and cluttered as Yahoo's doesn't mean it isn't a portal.
Let's examine. You go to the web. What do you do? You search, read news, read newsgroups, read email. So any portal needs to have these features. Hey! That exactly matches Google's website.
Google is a portal.
I can see very soon they will implement the so called Exploit that is Gmail Drive (use you 1gig free email space , as a shared webhosting service. you may use a portion Max 50% to upload you website to :)
Eventually Google will be the all powerful conglomeration that is taking over the world, and we will soon hate them for their (in the future) e-mail system that can't get out of beta, search results that aren't unique anymore and some other innovation surpassed them, slow updates for the registrar, pressing it's might into all standards and gobbling up patents, etc...
C'mon google... keep it simple. I don't want to have to start hating you...
It looks like the final pieces of google's plans to take over gstring.com and start a google thong website are finally falling into place.
...Bzzzzzt busted. The name of Google's headquarters is NOT GoogolPlex. It is GooglePlex
Enter your domain, hit RETURN
Enter your name and company, hit RETURN
Add pops up, says "Wishing to registar a domain for your new car services, go to cardomains.com...
And *Poof*, there goes Google's market.
heh, this could take away the hype from Go Daddy's superbowl a commercial.
n g. asp
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hillarious, props.
I had this idea a few months ago, but I wasn't expecting Google to become a registrar. For the average user, buying a domain and pointing the MX entries at Google would be a lot of work. It looks even more plausible now, because Google would tie it all together really nicely and make it very simple to sign up. If you don't want @gmail, you type in your own domain, buy it, and Google handles the DNS as well as everything else. It's perfect!
Good point about it being Beta still. It is very stable, so people wonder why that is. Perhaps this is one of the final features before initial release. They might also implement a non-Javascript version.
While most people don't like to hear that, it is true.
World Domain-ation, rather. Peace, joe
There is so much congestion in that market. Although google could easily get a great deal of business through that it would be one of those things that could in the future come and bite them...
but i would buy a domain from google if it was auto submitted into their search engine etc free or for a nominal life time fee..
I'm just being paraniod. I hope. :)
Either way I find it annoying that EVERYTHING new that Google gets involved is considered to be their attempt at World Domination. This is purely a /. reaction to Microsofts business dealings in the IT world. Just because Google are expanding their business model to incorporate other internet related ventures apart from search engines does not necessarily mean they are "doing a Microsoft".
[..] You search, read news, read newsgroups, read email [..]
Last I checked, the Google Homepage did not have a link to Gmail...
...to offer "yourname.gsite.com" - you have full control over your own third-level
names without having to do this. They would have become a registrar so that they can sell "yourname.com" to people.
Reasons why I don't consider it a portal:
No user account. Not that you'ld actually need one, but there isn't even an opportunity to have one. Part of what I consider a "portal" website is the ability to customize to a high degree what I want to show up on the main page when I visit.
Primary use of Google is a search tool. Portals, for me, tend to be more about central content delivery and "oh yeah, we have a search box too!". Even Google News is a search. Yahoo has their own news system, Google gives you news from other sources. About the only services they offer that aren't searches are Alerts, Blogger, Keyhole and the translation page.
No weather reports.
No online shopping. Froogle does not count since you're not buying anything from Google directly, it's a search tool.
No classified ad service.
It's missing a lot of things I normally think of when someone says "web portal". It's a "swiss army knife" of search tools.
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They are just resellers but I think they sell at a loss or at least at cost price to bring in the server clients.
google making computers? or toasters?
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google becoming a registrar doesn't have to mean anything at all, really. There's a trend where big companies become registrars just get more control over their own domains. This let's them have a tighter hold than if they have to rely on a third party to stop hijackings etc.
To a big corporation the cost of becoming a registrar is nothing, at least when you compare it to the cost of having your domain hijacked and off-line (or worse, used for phishing etc) for several days. Just look at the Panix debacle, where a big UK ISP had their domain hi-jacked for more than a weekend.
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if google have gmail for mail then gdomain for domain? well its all been taken up except for .org
anything is made affordable...
In a few years you'll be driving your google to the google to buy some google for your google.
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The above, translated into google:
Google. Google. Google.
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If you register a domain with google, does it automatically give you free advertising through their search pages?
I will ditto that sentiment, strongly! As Google folk will no doubt be reading the feedback.
Since the netnews service revamp a few months back, I keep thinking and cursing: Gad! This is a f_ck_ng improvement?! They are tone deaf on this one. Bring the old iteration back, please. I have fa.linux.kernel and more to read.
why do you think people would disable mod points? Just to avoid losing karma to metamod? That doesn't seem like a big enough justification to avoid moderating. That defeats the whole point of the moderation system.
A CNET article says that Google "has no plans to sell Web addressees for now.
"Google became a domain name registrar to learn more about the Internet's domain name system," a company representative said Tuesday. "We believe this information can help us increase the quality of our search results."
According to the article its just about their search feature so far. More to come?
lol: You see no door there!