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Transparent Aluminum a Reality

TuballoyThunder writes "Many of us remember the scene from Star Trek IV where Scotty barters the formula for transparent aluminum for a small run. It now appears that we can now add transparent aluminum to the science fact column."

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  1. Coming soon to a school court near you! by marsperson · · Score: 4, Funny

    The ability to wrap your mother's sandwiches in transparent aluminum and loose your apetite before you even unwrap it!

  2. A Great Send-Off by jIyajbe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Very appropriate to announce this discovery at the same time James Doohan's remains are being sent into space. One wonders if there is a closet Trekker in the military press office. :-)

    Cheers,

    jIyajbe

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    1. Re:A Great Send-Off by Spock+the+Baptist · · Score: 4, Funny

      What do you want to bet that it was designed on a Macintosh...

      Oh would that ever be sweet! :D

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    2. Re:A Great Send-Off by metricmusic · · Score: 3, Funny

      I KNEW it! Scotty didn't die. He just went back in the Bird of Prey.

      Everyone, check your local marine park for missing Whales now!!

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    3. Re:A Great Send-Off by SteveAyre · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sorry but no, you must be wrong.

      I just checked and I can't find any missing whales anywhere.

    4. Re:A Great Send-Off by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Informative

      This story is starting to become almost a yearly tradition on Slashdot.

      Transparent Aluminum a Reality
      On October 18th, 2005 with 231 comments
      TuballoyThunder writes "Many of us remember the scene from Star Trek IV where Scotty barters the formula for transparent aluminum for a small run. It now...

      Transparent Aluminum Is Here
      On August 23rd, 2004 with 625 comments
      Alien54 writes "Scientists in the US have developed a novel technique to make bulk quantities of glass from alumina for the first time. (link includes a...

      Transparent Aluminium
      On February 20th, 2002 with 368 comments
      Lynx writes "As the german magazine Spiegel reports, scientists at the Fraunhofer Institute for Ceramic Technologies have developed a transparent tile made...

      And that was from the first page of the search screen ordered by rank.

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    5. Re:A Great Send-Off by AndersOSU · · Score: 3, Informative

      To be fair this is a different material than the previous two articles, the first two describe an alumina glass, whereas this article describes an aluminum oxynitride ceramic.

    6. Re:A Great Send-Off by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Informative

      To be even fairer, alumina isn't alumin{i}um and neither is alumin{i}um oxynitride, but all the headlines imply that it is.

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    7. Re:A Great Send-Off by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Funny
      Is that because he tries talking into the mouse on a mac in Star Trek IV, or are you just another idiot mac troll?

      Both.

    8. Re:A Great Send-Off by CaptDeuce · · Score: 4, Funny
      ALONtm is virtually scratch resistant, offers substantial impact resistance, and provides better durability and protection against armor piercing threats, at roughly half the weight and half the thickness of traditional glass transparent armor, said the lieutenant.

      [time warp]

      Tuesday, October 13, 2009

      Cupertino CA -- Apple Computer faces rising complaints of "scratches" that reportedly developed on the cases of their iPod Angstrom virtual reality player. The device, which feeds audio, video, and olfactory images directly to the brain, is implanted under the skin behind the ear, remaining there for up to three days. It is this repeated insertion and extraction of the device which causes scratches on the iPod's case.

      "The scratches are obvious," say disgruntled user Mitch Burnsome, "I can see them clearly under my microscope, at maginications as low as 20 times. Apple's quality control is dreadful."

      Apple responded that the iPod Angstrom case is very durable. "The case is made of ALONtm which is used as armor on tanks and Humvees; it's virtually scratch resistant," said Apple spokesperson Anton Natale. "Steve Jobs has been using a prototype for the past six months and declares that it works so well with his brain that it's 'sanely great'."

      Since the release of the iPod Angstrom four hours ago, Apple has sold 7 million units. The price of Apple stock dropped 7% after analysts complained that sales were projected to be 7.1 million units by this time.

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    9. Re:A Great Send-Off by borg007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      In other news, a man ,Homeland Security believes to be a Chechen rebel, was seen wandering the streets of nearby towns looking for nuclear wessels.Is it a coincidence he has shown up just as transparent aluminum has become a reality? He was accompanied by a dark skinned woman of possible Somalian origin. They are just people of interest at this point.

    10. Re:A Great Send-Off by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I've seen references in manufacturing trade magazines about aluminum oxides used to make transparent aluminum
      Write out 100 times: "X oxide is not X".

      You too, ScuttleMonkey. And TuballoyThunder. That's 100 each, yes.

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  3. hmm by Gronkers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now if we could only arm our military vehicles with convential armor let alone the nifty new stuff..

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    1. Re:hmm by B2382F29 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, that would cost you an arm and a leg ... either way.

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    2. Re:hmm by rtb61 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Interesting idea that one, now if you consider the original humvee as a general transport vehicle admittedly a hugely expensive piece of gas guzzling pork and the armoring it for yet another rather cunning and expensive piece of additional pork. Stop and think about all those existing armored cars which where in fact designed to do that job (still far more effectively armored) and those cheap fuel efficient jeeps that used to used to provide general non-combat transport. Of course soldiers are cheaper and they don't generate a profit, like the continual replacement of a sort of armoured car rather than the survivability an actual armoured car (sarcasm folks, I used to be one).

      Back to the story, will vivendi universal claim the idea of transparent aluminium and sue for patent rights, hmm?

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  4. Hmm by psilonaut · · Score: 5, Funny

    How quaint.

  5. The article is disappointing by kg_o.O · · Score: 5, Funny

    No pics :(

    1. Re:The article is disappointing by GroeFaZ · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nothing for you to see here. Move along.

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    2. Re:The article is disappointing by Erik+Hensema · · Score: 5, Funny

      Using some elite slashdot h4x0ring skillz, I am able to post a picture of transparent aluminum right here for you:








      Nice, eh?

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    3. Re:The article is disappointing by kg_o.O · · Score: 3, Funny

      Think you can fool me by posting a pic of transparent milk chocolate?
      Think again!

  6. transparent oxide-nitride, not a metal by Muhammar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    when you read the article, you find out that the material is not aluminum metal. It is just a transparent corund-like substance. Al203 alone is pretty hard (and easy to make - including gem colored versions) and the mixed oxide-nitride is probably harder.

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    1. Re:transparent oxide-nitride, not a metal by Cave_Monster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I imagine this stuff would be used as a replacement for what is currently used as the windows. I wonder how this would compare to the rest of the armoured vehicle strength wise. Are we going to suddenly see completely transparent vehicles driving around?

    2. Re:transparent oxide-nitride, not a metal by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hope not, then I'd have to start wearing pants!

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    3. Re:transparent oxide-nitride, not a metal by Dolda2000 · · Score: 2, Informative
      That shouldn't be very surprising, though. Admittedly, I'm no material physicist, but AFAIK metals cannot be transparent, since the conduction band simply responds to too many EM frequencies. Conversely, if something is transparent, then it cannot be a metal.

      I would think that some compound containing aluminium is as close to transparent aluminium that we'll ever get.

    4. Re:transparent oxide-nitride, not a metal by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Informative

      Anything is transparent if you make it thin enough. Weren't the early space helmet visors gilded?

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  7. soda by Cave_Monster · · Score: 5, Funny
    Does anyone remember being told when they were a child, not to leave your can of drink open while outside for fear of a wasp/bee getting inside and consequently a painful next sip?

    Perhaps with this technology we can have see-through cans and this will no longer be a problem :)

  8. iPod Nano screen by jabuzz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sound just what Apple need to make some scratch resistant screens for the iPod Nano :)

  9. IPOD nano needs this stuff by blackomegax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    seriously. give the nano a nice coat of this and i think apple's little scratching post will turn into something nice and...well...scratchless

  10. Beanie by svvampy · · Score: 4, Funny
    Does this mean that I can get a new beanie that will protect me from the mind-controlling probes of the government, but not make me look more like a freak?

    I don't think that'll catch on.

    1. Re:Beanie by iamdrscience · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, just do what I do and line your existing hats and headware with aluminum.

  11. Aluminium! by paulhar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Grr...

    1. Re:Aluminium! by HugePedlar · · Score: 3, Informative

      Interestingly (or not, as the case may be) the discoverer of "aluminium" decided to call it "aluminum" but the British Chemical Naming Commission (or whatever they're called) insisted that all metals end in "ium" so they overrode him.

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    2. Re:Aluminium! by johnw · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually he called it "Alumium", in line with the convention of ending metals in "ium". Then he added the extra "n" to make "Aliminum" and then the extra "i" was added to bring it back into line with the convention.

    3. Re:Aluminium! by ricky-road-flats · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Interestingly (or not, as the case may be) the discoverer of "aluminium" decided to call it "aluminum" but the British Chemical Naming Commission (or whatever they're called) insisted that all metals end in "ium" so they overrode him.

      Speaking as an Englishman myself, that makes sense. So what's going on with platinum then, apart from the fact that 'platinium' sounds lame...

    4. Re:Aluminium! by MightyYar · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You know your post on slashdot is uninformative if you can be replaced by a bot:

      psuedocode:

      do while true
      if slashdot post contains "aluminum","color","honor"
      post message subject = "aluminium", "colour", "honour" body = "Grr..."
      endif
      end while
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  12. Finally! by Moe+Napoli · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can now order my Wonder Woman jet! Now's where's my Golden Lasso and Amazon Bangles? Soon I hope. Now, if only surgery took well, I'd be all set...

  13. Humvee Windshields by deathcow · · Score: 4, Insightful


    IIRC the windshield of a Humveee is about 72" x 23"... thats 1656 square inches. The article quotes $10 - $15 a sq. inch, so the windshield would be worth $16,560 to $24,840.... I guess they wont be protecting fleets of vehicles with them?

    1. Re:Humvee Windshields by Eivind · · Score: 2, Informative
      1656 square inches. The article quotes $10 - $15 a sq. inch, so the windshield would be worth $16,560 to $24,840....

      That's DoD prices, they always seem to have a zero more than seems reasonable, sometimes more. (there's been a few $500 toilet-seats and $300 hammers)

      The current prices for similar glass-armor are quite high too, at $3 or so a square inch that Hummer windshield is still going to cost around $5000.

    2. Re:Humvee Windshields by sqeaky · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's not just any windsheild but a windshield that can stand up to repeated .50 caliber rounds. I think $24,000 is fine price to improve our fighting mens chances at coming home safely. That and it will probably get cheaper when they start mass manufacturing it.

    3. Re:Humvee Windshields by hidispenser · · Score: 5, Informative

      Humvees normally cost the military about $125,000 each. Installing Level I (the highest) armor costs an additional $125,000. http://www.reflector.com/news/content/shared/news/ world/stories/08/11TROOPS_ARMOR.html/ The article in the link states that the military's goal is to get every Humvee in the fleet to that state of armor. So $16,560 to $24,840 is therefore reasonable for an entire fleet to have.

    4. Re:Humvee Windshields by Kaenneth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cheaper than training a replacement soldier.

    5. Re:Humvee Windshields by WoodieR · · Score: 2, Funny

      sure, they will, it's only your tax dollars, you gots lots of those ...

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    6. Re:Humvee Windshields by just_another_sean · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well sure it's expensive now. How is the inventor going to get "rich beyond the wildest dreams of avarice" otherwise?

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    7. Re:Humvee Windshields by usrusr · · Score: 2, Informative

      so you are saying it all worked out as planned?

      i don't think they'd need better homvee windshields if it did.

      and why would the corporations bombed into control of the oil fields be that much interested in lower oil prices? besides, the oil business is a very slow one, you don't just drive by with a tank and take away all the oil, even rebuilding previously existing infrastructure takes many years, more if you have to deal with partisan activity.

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  14. no doubt patented already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Air Force Research Laboratory's materials and manufacturing directorate is testing aluminum oxynitride -- ALONtm

    And look.. the trademark is built right in as well!

  15. In a related story: by dummyname12 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The military is planning to test this new material on its nuclear wessels.

    1. Re:In a related story: by coolGuyZak · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hold on, wouldn't this be the first time we can make new clear wessels?

  16. Ooooh. by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What'll be really nice is when prices get down to be viable for use in consumer-grade products. Say goodbye to broken windows from baseballs, cracked screens on dropped iPods, chipped windshields from rocks, and all sorts of other fun uses.

    It should open up some cool architectural possibilities as well.

    1. Re:Ooooh. by MavEtJu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Say goodbye to broken windows from baseballs,

      And say hello to the fire from which you can't escape from because the "glass" is unbreakable.

      Every advantage has its disadvantage!

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    2. Re:Ooooh. by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeuch. You disgust me! How brainwashed and nihilistic does a human have to be, to strap a gun pointing to their head with a dangling tag saying "for police use"? Or, how utterly sick, to insist others do so?

      I do not view the government as a thing with the legitimate right to kill me. If that stymies their plans, fuck 'em. I'll take all the armor I can get!

  17. Re:Super Polish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Polishing (like case hardening) belongs to a normal metallic property called work hardening. You work a metal it will become harder (but normally also more brittle). In fact it is rarer to have a metal that won't work harden than not. Time to go back to metal shop!!

  18. Transparent Alumin(i)um by slittle · · Score: 3, Informative

    See also here for earlier developments in this area.

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  19. Whales by thelonestranger · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmmmm....Has anyone noticed a pair of humpback whales going missing recently?

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  20. Re:Or as the brits say... by mccalli · · Score: 3, Interesting
    transparent aluminium.
    What is with that, anyway?

    Aluminium is the 'correct' and internationally recommended way of writing it, with aluminum being a local variant. Personally, even as a Brit I think the second sounds more correct, but there you go.

    As ever, Wikipedia reveals all.

    Cheers,
    Ian

  21. Note to mods: by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Informative
    The parent isn't offtopic; you just didn't get the Star Trek IV reference:

    [after Scotty tries to talk into the mouse]

    TECHNICIAN: "Just use the keyboard!"

    SCOTTY: "The keyboard? How quaint."
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  22. For people with fear of heights by jurt1235 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Transparant aluminium bottom in an airplane (-; (Only usefull if the airplane travels without cargo)

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  23. Sapphire by obender · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sapphire which is basically a crystal of aluminium oxide has been synthetised almost 100 years ago and is commonly used nowadays. Some non-scratch watches use that instead of glass.

  24. Case mod! by gobbledok · · Score: 3, Funny

    A transparent case made of aluminium...Mmmmm, aluminium..

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  25. Other things realizable by R-ing TFA by Atario · · Score: 4, Informative
    • Either someone doesn't know how to make a proper trademark symbol, or else the Air Force has a wierder marketing department that one would imagine ("'ALONtm'? Alontum? With odd capitalization? Wha? Is this like that whole Sony Wega/Vega nonsense?").
    • Ceramic can be transparent
    • It's possible for something to be "virtually scratch resistant" -- practically, but not technically, offering some resistance to being scratched
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  26. How's it pronounced? by Jaruzel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is aluminium pronounced:

    a) AL-LEW-MIN-NEE-UM

    or

    b) AL-LUMIN-UM

    Personally, I go with 'a' coz I'm a Brit, is it just U.S. peeps who pronounce it 'b' ?

    (I'd submit this as a /. poll, but everything I submit gets rejected... I wish there were _at the very least_, proforma reasons as why things get rejected so you know where you went wrong...)

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    1. Re:How's it pronounced? by Tidal+Flame · · Score: 5, Informative
      Either, really. It can be pronounced and spelled either aluminum or aluminium. Typically, Americans and Canadians pronounce and spell it "aluminum." I can't speak for other countries...

      Here's the history behind the difference (from the Wikipedia article):
      In 1808, Humphry Davy originally proposed the name alumium while trying to isolate the new metal electrolytically from the mineral alumina. In 1812 he changed the name to aluminum to match its Latin root. The same year, an anonymous contributor to the Quarterly Review, a British political-literary journal, objected to aluminum, and proposed the name aluminium.

      "Aluminium, for so we shall take the liberty of writing the word, in preference to aluminum, which has a less classical sound. (Q. Review VIII. 72, 1812. Cited in OED.)"

      This had the advantage of conforming to the -ium suffix precedent set by other newly discovered elements of the period: potassium, sodium, magnesium, calcium, and strontium (all of which Davy had isolated himself). Nevertheless, -um spellings for elements were not unknown at the time: platinum, which had been known to Europeans since the 16th century, molybdenum, which was discovered in 1778, and tantalum, which was discovered in 1802, all have spellings ending in -um. For the thirty years following its discovery, both the -um and -ium endings were used interchangeably in the scientific literature.

      Curiously, the United States adopted the -ium for most of the 19th century with aluminium appearing in Webster's Dictionary of 1828. However Charles Martin Hall selected the -um spelling in an advertising handbill for his new efficient electrolytic method for the production of aluminium, four years after he had patented the process in 1888. Although this spelling may have been an accident, Hall's domination of production of the metal ensured that the spelling aluminum became the standard in North America, even though the Webster Unabridged Dictionary of 1913 continued to use the -ium version.

      In 1926, the American Chemical Society officially decided to use aluminum in its publications, and American dictionaries typically label the spelling aluminium as a British variant.
  27. Hey! by dangitman · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm 40% aluminium! Bender

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  28. Star treck Ipods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Finally, scrach-resistance for my Ipod Nano!

  29. Re:virtually scratch resistant? by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It means it'll resists anything except a bunch of bored teenage
    scratch-taggers armed with screwdrivers at 3am on a sunday morning.

  30. Re:Super Polish by AGMW · · Score: 5, Funny
    Double the strength by polishing?

    This isn't that strange, and certainly here on SlashDot I'd expect the readership to be well aware how things can get harder if they are rubbed the right way.

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  31. Unintended joke? by Rocketship+Underpant · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "...loose your apetite before you even unwrap it!"

    I guess if you loosed your appetite on an unwrapped sandwich, you'd end up eating the whole thing wrapper and all! An amusing picture, even if you meant to type "lose" and suggest the opposite. :)

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    1. Re:Unintended joke? by moro_666 · · Score: 3, Funny

      a) cost of a sandwich :
        about 1$

      b) cost of a research to invent invisible aluminium :
        about 1 zillion $

      c) the face of your boss when he takes a bite of
      his lunch and appears to have mouth full of cutting metal :
        priceless

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      it would be cool to "see" a pc case made out of it thou (obviously you cant see it but you can pretend it's there :p)

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    2. Re:Unintended joke? by somersault · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it's crazy how many people use loose instead of lose though. All those lil kids and wikipedians online these days are so impressionable you know, and the more instances that slide through, the more the problem will propagate. Capital punishment seems to be the way to go.

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    3. Re:Unintended joke? by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Funny

      it would be cool to "see" a pc case made out of it thou (obviously you cant see it but you can pretend it's there :p)

      You mean the way uoi can't see a case made oud of acrylic?

      Damn, I had a drinking glass full of water on the table somewhere, if only it weren't invisible I could find it....oh yeah, clear != invisible.

    4. Re:Unintended joke? by Eq+7-2521 · · Score: 3, Funny

      But that does beg the question, what are we going to do with all those bodies?

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    5. Re:Unintended joke? by indifferent+children · · Score: 4, Funny

      While you're spending your $1z on research, can you find out if transparent aluminum foil protects from government mind control rays as well as regular aluminum foil? Not that I'll believe your government-funded 'research'.

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    6. Re:Unintended joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You guys forgot to mention the morons who mix up "there" and "their"

    7. Re:Unintended joke? by houghi · · Score: 4, Funny

      can you find out if transparent aluminum foil protects from government mind control rays as well as regular aluminum foil?

      Yes, it does. It is even much, much better, so change your regular with the transparent one.

      Not that I'll believe your government-funded 'research'.

      Oh, in that case: The transparent version does NOT protect you. The regular one is much better.

      Now that I wrote that, you rpobably think the regular one is better. See? We are already in your head.

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    8. Re:Unintended joke? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2, Funny

      And "they're".

      All the correct usages put together in a sentence would look like: "There going over their to play with they'reselves."

      Or something.

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    9. Re:Unintended joke? by lowrydr310 · · Score: 3, Funny
      From TFA: "The substance itself is light years ahead of glass"

      So this new transparent aluminum is roughly 9.46 × 10^12 kilometres ahead of glass?

    10. Re:Unintended joke? by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      An unspecified amount of light years.. who knows how many :S maybe as a side effect of the 'transparent aluminum' creation process they discovered the secret to interstellar travel?

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    11. Re:Unintended joke? by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 4, Funny

      it's crazy how many people use loose instead of lose though.

      Yeah, what loosers!

    12. Re:Unintended joke? by Dwonis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Beekuzitt mayckes iht diphihcullttu umderztand ezpechilley for none naytiv riedres.

    13. Re:Unintended joke? by IbeUID0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It may very well beg the question. It is not misusing language. The definition of "begs the question" that you are using is a misuse of language - specifically a mistranslation of Aristotle that dates from the 16th century. So, you are defending a 500 year old mistake.

      Congratulations. You have just won the "ironic idiot" award for this story for decrying something as a mistake using an argument that is, in fact, a mistake.

    14. Re:Unintended joke? by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 2, Funny

      Irregardless of you're misunderstanding me, your making the write decision, as you can loose alot of time caring about opinions on /.

    15. Re:Unintended joke? by steveness · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is Slashdot, man! We get confused just thinking about the existence of women, let alone the correct usage in a sentence.

    16. Re:Unintended joke? by Mage+Inq. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is quite true - try this with pyrex and vegetable oil. The pyrex will "disappear" when submerged into the oil.

  32. Bad Trek Trivia by Archibald+Buttle · · Score: 3, Informative

    Scotty doesn't trade the formula for transparent aluminium for a small run of the stuff. He trades for a quantity of perspex.

    Dr. Nichols says it'll take him "years to even calculate the matrix". Besides that, the stuff they delivered and installed was clearly perspex - it would have been much thinner had it been transparent aluminium.

    1. Re:Bad Trek Trivia by flyingsquid · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Scotty doesn't trade the formula for transparent aluminium for a small run of the stuff. He trades for a quantity of perspex.

      OK, but WHY did they have to get perspex? Why not just get, oh, I don't know, REGULAR ALUMINUM? Or plate steel, which would be even thinner and cheaper than either? They go through this huge effort of screwing around with the space-time continuum and everything to get something transparent, but apparently nobody has even considered the possibility of making the tank, I dunno, NON-TRANSPARENT!? Or maybe with just a couple little viewing windows? If the tank is opaque, are the whales really going to freak out any more than they already do after being transported into the belly of freakin' Klingon attack ship???

      Sorry to go ballistic. I mean, I did enjoy the movie, but that part has always bugged me. Damn it, it's so... well, illogical.

  33. This is cool stuff here by KylePflug · · Score: 3, Interesting
    In a June 2004demonstration, an ALONtm test pieces held up to both a .30 caliber Russian M-44 sniper rifle and a .50 caliber Browning Sniper Rifle with armor piercing bullets. While the bullets pierced the glass samples, the armor withstood the impact with no penetration.
    OK, I'm not exactly a gun nut, but that's damn impressive. .50 cal snipers are designed to take out the engine blocks of vehicles. A window stopping them is just plain cool.

    The uses go way beyond windshields. How about full-length transparent SWAT shields? If it'll take a .50-cal, should be more than safe enough. How about implrementing some of this in monitor screens? Watch faces? Heck, light fixtures in gymnasiums.

    What about airplanes? Make much of the body out of this, making maintenance that much easier.

    ... in retrospect, that last is a horrible idea. But the others remain good ;)
    1. Re:This is cool stuff here by Kredal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My watch face (Tissot T-Touch) already has a sapphire (Aluminium Oxide) face... the steel bezel around it is scratched all to heck, but there is not a single scratch on the face. Pretty cool, IMHO. Oh, and it's a touch screen!

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  34. Transparent Tin Foil Hats by wangotango · · Score: 5, Funny

    How will the rest of the world recognize us if our tinfoils hats are transparent?

  35. God dammit! by PhotoBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Scotty's been messing with the timeline again! What next, Mr. Scott? Warp drive in the Victorian era?

  36. Re:So the questions is, by Chicane-UK · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think he did a little too much LDS.

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  37. Actually this is a ceramic - nothing really new by spineboy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Aluminum has been used in ceramics for many years, and is a very common substance in many transparent products such as gems (rubys, emeralds, etc)! This is really nothing new about aluminum, but news in that this is a really tough!! bullet-proof glass, able to withstand multiple! rounds from 30 cal armor peircing bullets and 50 cal sniper rounds. Typical body armor is good for one! shot from a high power slug because it shatters.

    Expect to see this to enter the consumer market for things like - IPod nano screens, watch faces, scratch reistant coverings on eyeglasses,etc. The expensive weapons grade version is supposedly not much diferent from the much cheaper non-weapons grade version, so expect the $10-$/sq inch!!! price to vastly drop. I give it one year before we start to commonly see this in the high cost items at first (Rolex and Tag watches, etc)

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  38. nearly, but not quite... by williamhb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unfortunately, from the article it seems ALONtm is noted for it's high compressive strength, whereas to build the sides of a whale-sized bath you need high tensile strength. Unless of course it's a particularly aggressive whale and keeps shooting armour-piercing rounds at the side of the bath, but then the bigger question would be "how did it pull the trigger"?

    1. Re:nearly, but not quite... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      IIRC, the whale enclosure was made of plexiglass. They bought it with the formula for transparent Al, but the manufacturer wouldn't have had time to tool up to make the new material.

  39. Aluminium Reality or Aluminum Realty? by kt0157 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Then there's Helum, that noble gas. And Kurchatovum, that incredibly unstable element. And Lithum, of which batteries are made. Not forgetting Valum, for people too depressed to worry about spelling.

    Yes, yes, I know, a whole continent of people can't spell that metal's name. It's just like the English who wrote "cocoa" when they should have written "cacao". Amazing how an illiterate in the wrong place at the wrong time can screw up a dictionary.

    K.

    1. Re:Aluminium Reality or Aluminum Realty? by Chops+II · · Score: 2, Funny

      G'day As being 8th or so generations from a convict on the second fleet, i take offense to that! Shuttup before i steal your bread. And it's spelled colour. COLOUR!!!! not to mention mum etc.... Now, excuse me while i tend to my kangaroos and e-moos.

    2. Re:Aluminium Reality or Aluminum Realty? by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's the funny thing about language - it changes. Sometimes for a good reason, sometimes for a bad reason. Resisting that will doom you to a life of, well, posting frustrated comments on slashdot complaining about how people spell aluminum. In particular, this "mispronunciation" is about 100 years old, and no amount of slashdot posting is going to change that. Move on.

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    3. Re:Aluminium Reality or Aluminum Realty? by Ugmo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I once read a nice article by Isaac Asimov about this spelling thing.I do not remember which of the hundreds of books he wrote the article was in but it is out there somewhere. I am doing this from memory but the story goes like this:
      It seems the roots of most metals are like this:
      magnesia.....so magnesium
      potassia.....so potassium

      But the root of aluminum is alumina, no 'i'. The British stuck one in anyway for consistency because all the other metals have it. The American English version is more correct, according to Asimov but he was an American citizen so he might be biased.

    4. Re:Aluminium Reality or Aluminum Realty? by mysticgoat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When you can work out that a clause containing a transitive verb requires an object...you can criticise other people.

      Sigh.

      For about 250 years now, eddykatid idjits have been trying to convince the world that correct english grammar is the grammar of the dead latin language. They would try to surgically insert a skeleton into an octopus, then when the poor dead thing can't be posed in some natural way, they would assert that such a pose is in poor taste, and simply not done by the better octopusses. Gack.

      English is not latin. True, there are some superficial resemblances, like the indisputable fact that in both, the spoken words are emitted from the caudal orifices of the speakers. But the concepts of "transitive verbs", "objects", "indirect objects", "clauses", and the like are ideas of latin that have been imposed upon english by people with small minds who can't accept that english grammar is a fuzzy thing. When they see other languages that have crystalline grammars with smashing hard facets and oh so sharp edges, they want english to be the same way.

      Ya wanna larn to speke english right? Then realize that the game of english is the Calvin Ball of languages.

      "Don't criticize what you can't understand" --B.D.

    5. Re:Aluminium Reality or Aluminum Realty? by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "Yes, yes, I know, a whole continent of people can't spell that metal's name. It's just like the English who wrote "cocoa" when they should have written "cacao". Amazing how an illiterate in the wrong place at the wrong time can screw up a dictionary."
      Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
      The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
      And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
      Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
      Whan Zephirus eek with his sweete breeth
      Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
      The tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
      Hath in the Ram his halfe cours yronne,
      And smale foweles maken melodye,
      That slepen al the nyght with open eye-
      (So priketh hem Nature in hir corages);
      Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages
      And palmeres for to seken straunge strondes
      To ferne halwes, kowthe in sondry londes;
      And specially from every shires ende
      Of Engelond, to Caunterbury they wende,
      The hooly blisful martir for to seke
      That hem hath holpen, whan that they were seeke.
      --Someone writing in perfect English.
    6. Re:Aluminium Reality or Aluminum Realty? by atomico · · Score: 2, Informative

      Quote: in both [English and Latin], the spoken words are emitted from the caudal orifices of the speakers

      Have you stopped to think what a caudal orifice is, or where is it located?

      Now I understand why I always have this funny accent when speaking English... in my mother language, the spoken words are just emitted from the mouth of the speakers. So many years attending language courses, and nobody ever told me!

  40. Call Apple by beest · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sounds like a hell of a nice screen protector for the nano

  41. No news here by ishmaelflood · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thinnish coating of aluminum oxide on glass/plastic multilayer laminate improves its strength and scratch resistance.

    News for non chemical nerds, maybe. A bit ho hum for anybody familiar with the AMAZING see through properties of things like aluminumium oxide, aka rubies and saphires.

  42. Re:Super Polish by TeknoHog · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Actually, strength from polishing is a pretty basic idea in material science. It comes down to the fact that materials break due to initial cracks that grow bigger under stress. If the cracks are initially larger, the material is more fragile.

    For example, a glass bottle can be broken by putting a little sand into it and shaking vigorously. It's mainly the scraping action, not the weight of the sand, that causes the glass to break.

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  43. Re:Oh, *that*! by williamhb · · Score: 2, Funny
    Nah, it was "nuclear wessels"!!!
    Blast, I thought he said "nuclear whistles" and sent him down to the toy store. Oh well, there goes the earth in the 23rd century. Talk about careless talk costing lives...
  44. Re:Super Polish by tankenator · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is not unusual for metals to be increased in strength after polishing or grinding, as a method of stress relief. Ceramics, while beyond my experience, are likely similiar.

  45. Re:Ooooh. -- wrong by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're at the 58th floor of a building.
    There is a fire. You can't use the stairs or elevators.
    A)You break the glass, jump out and fall to your death.
    B)You don't break the glass and suffocated because of the smoke.

    Either way, you're toast.

    Wrong...
    A) You're jam
    B) You're toast

    The difference isn't subtle.

  46. Re:See-through cans? by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 2, Insightful

    bugger it, i was going to mod in this discussion, but i have to respond...

    3 - How impressive would it really be to crush a see-through ARMOUR PLATED, BULLET PROOF can on your forehead?

    ...pretty impressive i would have to say.

  47. Pictures by pev · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google finds some pics as expected (Sorry, PDF) :
        http://www.surmet.com/docs/Processing_ALON.pdf

    I'm not 100% certain if they're genuine or mock ups though...

    ~Pev

  48. Re:Super Polish by hey! · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It comes down to the fact that materials break due to initial cracks that grow bigger under stress.

    Back in the late 70s early 80s I used to polish my bike components, particuarly brake calipers, for that very reason. It was in that era that there was a massive increase in technical and manufacturing sophistication from the Japanese makers, as a result of which anybody can now get well finished, non-pot-metal bike parts without having to spend a fortune for Campagnolo.

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  49. Corrosion Resistance by N8F8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder thet the corrosion resistance is of this stuff. Most aluminum materials don't do well in the weather and I imagine even minor pitting would impact transparency.

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  50. M-44 sniper rifle? by Yonder+Way · · Score: 4, Informative

    "In a June 2004demonstration, an ALONtm test pieces held up to both a .30 caliber Russian M-44 sniper rifle [...]"

    Never trust a journalist to get gun facts straight.

    The M44 is a carbine version of the Mosin-Nagant, very short, easy to carry, but with nothing better than iron sights. It is about as far from a "sniper rifle" as anything you can see.

    It has the coolest integral bayonet, though.

    On the upside, the M-44 uses the same cartridge as the current Romanian "sniper" rifle, the PSL. The M44 has a short barrel so a steel-cored 7.62x54R projectile won't reach the same sort of velocities as it would out of a PSL rifle but it should be a pretty effective test against the sort of "armor piercing" light arms that any terrorist not carrying an RPG would be likely to have handy.

  51. Computer....computer? by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Scotty: Computer. Computer?

    [Bones hands him a mouse and he speaks into it]

    Scotty: Hello, computer.

    Dr. Nichols: Just use the keyboard.

    Scotty: Keyboard. How quaint.

    I see a multitude of uses for transparent aluminum including semi-transparent road signs, reinforced windows and cool computer cases. Scotty lives!

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    He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
  52. Transparent Silicon?! by TangoCharlie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This stuff is transparent Aluminium, in the same way that "normal" glass is
    transparent Silicon. Indeed, using this criteria, we already had transparent
    Aluminium in the form of Saphire. Saphire is also rather hard and makes a good
    optical material. While the invention of a suitably hard and tough transparent
    material is obviously news-worthy it would be wise to steer clear of the same
    mistakes that sci-fi writers make when they don't understand the "sci" bit.

    However, going back to the Star Trek film in question, I always liked the way
    that Scotty was able to create a new material and presumably the method for making
    it on a tiny Apple Mac Plus! Was he using MacDraw I wonder?

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  53. Not quite correct by ViXX0r · · Score: 3, Informative

    Scotty didn't exchange the formula for a small run of transparent aluminum, it would have taken years for the plant to study the formula and tool up their factory to produce the stuff. He traded the formula for a large, thick sheet of plexiglass or similar that the company would have had on hand or actually be able to manufacture at that time.

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  54. Refractive index? by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder what the refractive index of this material is? For those of us who look through tank windshield all day (figuratively speaking), if this material can be reduced in price and has a refractive index significantly greater than 1.66, then it would make our lenses much thinner, as well as being much more scratch resistant than polycarbonate.

    Given that sapphire has a refractive index over 1.75, this *could* be a great breakthrough - if Big Green starts to consume large quantities of this, then the amortized NRE will be greatly reduced.

  55. In other news, Apple announces new PowerBooks by Dekortage · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not to be outdone by the Air Force, Steve Jobs just announced that the forthcoming PowerBook G5 will feature a bulletproof transparent aluminum case. This follows Apple's longstanding tradition of using expensive metals for G4 laptop cases: first titanium, now airplane aluminum, soon transparent aluminum. Apple designer Jonathan Ives expressed some disappointment that they had not yet been able to create a commercially viable uranium shell, but was optimistic that the transparent aluminum would still be sexy.

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  56. Factual error in story by ari_j · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Scotty didn't exchange the formula for a small run of transparent aluminum. The exchange was the formula for a run of plexiglass panels. You are hereby ordered to watch Star Trek IV three times before Sunday.

  57. Re:Super Polish by iq+in+binary · · Score: 4, Informative

    Polishing (like case hardening) belongs to a normal metallic property called work hardening. You work a metal it will become harder (but normally also more brittle). In fact it is rarer to have a metal that won't work harden than not. Time to go back to metal shop!!

    Go back? Ok, I'm in one every day.

    While you're right about metals work hardening, you're wrong about how often it happens. Quite frankly, it doesn't unless you're either extremely stupid or even more so insane. Even soft magnetics like Cast Iron don't work harden until extremely high temperatures are reached. Something to the tune of 650-1100F, depending on the hardness rating you wish to achieve. If you're reaching temperatures that high before the part is finished, well, you're either cutting it off at the foundry or you're about to be fired. The methods used to actually harden materials in a noticeable fashion are specifically designed to superheat the part. Magnetics such as steel and any iron based material will be heated until red, blue or white hot to achieve hardening. This process is called annealing. Other metals are generally coated with a harder metal, not more than a thousand of an inch or two in thickness; this generally achieves the same affect.

    Polishing however, is not generally meant to harden, and rarely does. When a part or surface is polished, part of that surface is actually worn away while polish is deposited. This is the only way to achieve mirror finish, if the part has been turned or faced the surface will have markings on it from the tools used to cut it. Polishing is the process of actually wearing away material to relieve the markings, and depositing polish to increase shine. People should note that the more reflective a metal surface is, the finer the finish. Mirror finish generally denotes a "256 dp finish", required often by aerospace or military applications. The dumbass of a parent knows nothing of what he's talking about, and needs himself to open up a machinist's handbook.

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  58. Al.u.min.i.um or A.lu.mi.num? by Stunning+Tard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know somebody who has a hard time pronouncing the North American version of this (being from NA). It's always comes out 'A.lu.ni.um' on them. It's a real speech impediment which they don't like showcasing. So I encourage them to say it the British way because it's like saying an entirely different word which gets around the bad wiring that has burned A.lu.ni.um into their head.

    So I don't see a great need to pick one pronunciation. It's not like we need to communicate to get along and not start wars or anything. Sometimes I'll watch Coronation Street just to laugh at the incomprehensible characters. Namely that chubby lady who sold the kid's dog to buy boots. Har! great stuff!

    In the case of transparent alumin[...] I remember Scotty saying it the North American way despite being a Scotsman. So there's your proof right there. In the future the NA version wins out as the new standard. If you think I'm being silly to base knowledge of the future on STAR TREK just where do you think the formula for this stuff came from?

  59. Re:Dude, 'Aluminium' *is* the correct one. by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It IS deviant. But so is every word in the English language - that's how languages form. English is the bastardization of, what, some Germanic language? Throw in some Romance languages for good measure? Should we all be speaking "Grunt", the one true language, spoken properly by our Chimp forefathers?

    Since you mentioned it, I went to the IUPAC website and searched for "Aluminum". You know what came up? Hundreds of IUPAC journals with the word spelled that way. Clearly they don't find it mangled or deviant enough to edit in their publications. Dude.

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  60. Images of armor by rderr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A link to a press report showing an image of ALONtm.

    http://www.surmet.com/docs/ALON%20Press%20Release_ August%202003.pdf

    -Rob

  61. Re:A small run? by irving47 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He did. The big piece of plexi, and the use of the Plexicorp helicopter. Lots of people assumed it was transparent aluminum because they weren't listening to Dr. Nichols when he said, "It'd take years just to figure out the dynamics of these matrices..."

    Ugh. I shouldn't have known that part verbatim.

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  62. English is by Smallest · · Score: 3, Funny

    http://mercury.ccil.org/~cowan/essential.html#Engl ish

    Written English is essentially a variety of Old French invented by somebody who spoke only Saxon and read only Latin.
    --Basilius

    English is essentially an imprecise dialect of Java, without the object orientation.
    --Julian Morrison

    English is essentially bad Dutch with outrageously pronounced French and Latin vocabulary.
    --Eugene Holman

    English is essentially Norse as spoken by a gang of French thugs.
    --Benct Philip Jonsson

    English is essentially a bizarre dialect of Chinese, pronounced entirely in the first tone.
    --John Cowan

    English is essentially Low German plus even lower French minus any sense of culture.
    --Danny Weir

    English is essentially Anglo-Saxon with all the cool bits taken out.
    --Thomas Leigh

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    I have discovered a truly remarkable proof which this margin is too small to contain.
  63. Things It's Good For... by http101 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) http://www.xoxide.com/clearacatxca.html
    2) Eyeglasses.
    3) Pipes.
    4) Soda cans. (Pepsi could have used this during their Crystal Pepsi phase.)
    5) Windshields.
    6) Engines.
    7) Bicycles. (Used with carbon-fiber, Lance Armstrong would be deliriously happy.)
    8) Hurricane windows.
    9) Decorative and durable lawn furniture.
    10) Utensils.

    I have a feeling someone might find a way to swirl dyed mixtures into the clear part to make some sort of swirlie colored "glass" for vases that won't break. Eh... I'm bored...

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  64. Re:Actually this is a ceramic - nothing really new by RevRigel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, no. Current ceramic rifle plate technology for human-worn body armor does not shatter when hit with a single round. See here.

  65. Standards compliance by SkippyTPE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's amazing to me how many in the Slashdot crowd will jump up and down screaming about standards compliance until it comes to written English, whereupon the rules (i.e. - standards) are apparently taken as meaningless.

    1. Re:Standards compliance by NeMon'ess · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What do the Brits call the small lumps of dough or batter that bake up into what USians call biscuits?

  66. Re:You joke, but... by russotto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A transparent ceramic that's lighter and stronger than glass and the various plastics now used, and you think it doesn't have a practical application? It doesn't even take much of an imagination to find tons. Armor, obviously. Better windows on aircraft and spacecraft (where weight matters much more than on a ground vehicle). Child-proof computer monitors (OK, that one's a stretch...)

  67. No, you're wrong by ifwm · · Score: 4, Informative

    "In 1808, Humphry Davy originally proposed the name alumium while trying to isolate the new metal electrolytically from the mineral alumina. In 1812 he changed the name to aluminum to match its Latin root. The same year, an anonymous contributor to the Quarterly Review, a British political-literary journal, objected to aluminum, and proposed the name aluminium."

    So aluminum was the first spelling, which was later change by language nazis because it didn't sound right.

    Don't blame us Americans for trying to be historically accurate.

    1. Re:No, you're wrong by Spock+the+Baptist · · Score: 3, Funny

      "So aluminum was the first spelling, which was later change by language nazis because it didn't sound right."

      If you see someone with an adhesive label on their lapel or shoulder with a upside-down lower case e on it then you'll know that they're a member of the language nazis.

      By their schwas-stickers ye shall know them....

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  68. Re:Dude, 'Aluminium' *is* the correct one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    English doesn't just borrow words from other languages. It sometimes stalks other languages, drags them into a back alley, beats them senseless, and rifles through their pockets for new words. Sometimes, the words get a bit spindled in the process, but English doesn't care, it just likes new words.

  69. Photo available by amros · · Score: 2, Informative

    They have a pic on their photo page at http://www.af.mil/photos/index.asp:
    Low-res and high-res.

    Cutline:
    WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Ohio -- This ground-finish transparent armor test piece withstood the impact of a .30 caliber armor-piercing bullet fired from 25 yards away using a Russian M-44 sniper rifle. Shown is the test piece, which demonstrates the armor's ability to stop penetration from armor-piercing threats. (U.S. Air Force photo)

  70. Re:Super Polish by Shotgun · · Score: 2, Informative

    While you're right about metals work hardening, you're wrong about how often it happens. Quite frankly, it doesn't unless you're either extremely stupid or even more so insane.

    Or you're working a part by hand. Or the part does duty in a high vibration environment (copper fuel line are verboten on small airplanes for just this reason). Or you bend a heat treated nose gear on a hard landing and then try to bend it back into place.

    It doesn't happen often in a machine shop, unless the machinist is explicity trying to do it, but metalsmiths all over the world take advantage/try to avoid work hardening in various situations.

    BTW, a technical definition used in a machine shop may not be the common usage in the rest of the world. To the general world that I've been exposed to, work hardening is any increase in the hardness/brittleness derived from the stretching and shrinking involved in getting the metal to the desired shape. In this aspect, the gp is not necessarily off base. A stainless steel slapper is often used to 'polish' aluminum fairings, and the aluminum is harder after the process.

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  71. Sapphire is transparent Aluminum by Chuck_McDevitt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Transparent Aliminum has been around for all our lifetimes: Sapphire = Aluminum Oxide. My watch has a sapphire crystal... Yours might too.

    1. Re:Sapphire is transparent Aluminum by CapnGib · · Score: 2, Insightful

      sure it is, in the same way water is liquid hydrogen

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  72. Re:You joke, but... by portforward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, according to the article, the aluminum took armor piercing rounds from a 50 cal Browning Sniper rifle without breaking like the glass armor did. Also it weighs less, it doesn't scratch as much, (providing better visibility), it has a longer lifetime so it doesn't have to be replaced as often and therfore may be cheaper in the long run. Read the article next time - it answers a lot of your questions.

  73. Re:Actually this is a ceramic - nothing really new by robertjw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Expect to see this to enter the consumer market for things like - IPod nano screens, watch faces, scratch reistant coverings on eyeglasses,etc.

    If I read TFA correctly, I would expect to see many more applications than this. One application I would expect to see, as soon as the price drops, is automotive glass. Traditional 'bulletproof' glass has little value in a consumer vehicle, but this material is allegedly lighter, stronger and more scratch resistant (and I would assume chip resistant) than glass. Glass makes up a significant portion of the weight in an automobile. A lighter alternative would decrease the weight and potentially increase fuel efficiency. On top of that durability and safety factors would probably also help adoption of this technology into the automotive industry. The only problem I see is that traditional glass manufacturers will cry foul.

  74. Question on clear conductors and photovoltaic cell by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hey all,

    I heard a while back that a thin film of selenium, when exposed to hydrogen gas, would become transparent.

    Would it be possible to make a transparent photovoltaic cell? You know, like a window that could filter out ultraviolet light and turn it into electricity, yet transmit visible light?

    For that matter, would it be possible to add optical brighteners to greenhouse glass to increase the quantity of light that plants can use while reducing the risk of heat damage from noonday sun?

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  75. Why transparent aluminum? by Cunk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why did Scotty even need transparent aluminum? Plate steel makes a fine whale aquarium.

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  76. Wow... by Jambon · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...transparent aluminium actually exists? I won't believe it till I see it!

  77. Re:You joke, but... by LeonGeeste · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay. Step back a second. At the point where you entered the thread, I wasn't denying the existence of applications. I was claiming that the article, which I "didn't read", does not provide enough information to know that the research is cost-justified. This is because there are a number of considerations in determining whether the research was a good use of scarce resources. The article did not answer any of those questions. To determine that the research was cost justified, you have to check off a number of things:

    -Are users willing to pay the amortized cost of the research in its applications? Crude example: if the research has an amortized cost of $10 on each unit, but users are willing to pay only $1 for the feature, the research already didn't pay for itself. This may sound obvious, but keep in mind, inventions can do many "cool" things and still fail this test! Similar example: let's say (for simplicity) that the invention can just be used by the Air Force. Let's say that currently, the Air Force can double its combat effectiveness with $1e9. Then say the invention allows the Air Force to double its combat effectiveness for $2e9. In that case, the research was a waste. If instead, the research can double the combat effectiveness for $5e8, that is a gain of $5e8, which can then apply against the cost of the research to see if it paid for itself.

    -Summing up all those cost savings must then be greater than the research costs, discounting for forgone opportunities, aka interest. If the research cost $1e9 and saves $1e9 20 years later, that's a loss, because you could have just put the $1e9 in a bank and let the interest accrue.

    -That's not all. You have to then divide by the success rate of the research. The research gains must pay for all research costs; you can't just just count the winners and ignore the losers. The winners must also recoup the cost of the losers.

    If it meets all those tests, then the research was justified. AGAIN, I don't deny that there are many uses of the research, but the article I "didn't read" gives no information about whether it met any part of the above. Contrary to what you claim, it would help if there were more people like me giving reality checks: "Can't we use a memory thermometer for the same purpose?" (referring to the memory metal discussed in an earlier article) Too often people count the benefits and ignore the costs. Even if the benefits do ultimately outweight the costs, you should still consider them. Getting it right through luck is a bad policy.

    So, just to clarify, when you count ALL benefits, the research could be justified; the article just doesn't show that, and people rarely make this calculation.

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