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Ask Slashdot: Best Headphones, Earbuds, Earphones?

alexbgreat writes "What do you think is the best set of head-mounted loudspeakers for the money, with a cost of less than $50? Here are some featuresthat would be stupendous to have (in descending order of importance): noise isolation (not cancellation), flat/near flat response (I need to be able to hear bass, but I don't need my eardrums blown out), long-term comfort (earbuds usually hurt for me), and durability. Over-ear is preferred to anything on- or in-ear. Boom mics are permissible, as I may well use it as a broadcast intercom headset." If you have experience using headphones from different price ranges, feel free to share that as well.

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  1. 20 dollar sonies by negRo_slim · · Score: 1, Interesting

    My 20 dollar white sonys from walmart are excellent. Dont know the model # off hand. But like I said 20 bones walmart.

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    1. Re:20 dollar sonies by KingSkippus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know this will sound petty, but I'd rip my intestines out with a fork before buying something branded with Sony, given their recent history of putting out crap hardware, screwing customers over, distributing malware, suing music fans, losing online customer's data, etc.

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. "But that wasn't their headphone division!" Still, I don't want that company seeing one red cent of mine. Sorry headphone division of Sony, but your parent company is scummy, so you have to pay the price of their shenanigans. I'm hopeful that there are plenty of alternatives for 20 bones that are just as good or better.

      To anyone reading this, please remember all the times you've read an article here about Sony and though, "Wow, that's bad." Please don't fall into the "But their [whatever] is pretty good, so I'll make an exception and buy it." It's putting money in their pocket that they use to keep screwing people over so that we can see even more articles here about their spectacular douchebaggery.

    2. Re:20 dollar sonies by issicus · · Score: 1

      they sure do make a lot of different ear buds..(amazon) I got mine from walmart, I think they were philips or rca. those ones with the foam padding (something like Philips SHE8500) sound great, and have never hurt my ears. better then the 80$ sony dj set I had anyway.

    3. Re:20 dollar sonies by negRo_slim · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sony is a large company and they put out many things. If you have a beef against them for whatever reason then more power to you. However the question was posed about sub $50 dollar head phones and I happen to have picked up a pair of Sony's for a road trip and I was very impressed with the quality, fit and portability. If your still upset about the rootkit and the removal of PS3 Linux that's fine. That doesn't apply to me however and I'm just giving advice and the OP can use it or lose as he or she chooses.

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    4. Re:20 dollar sonies by T-Mckenney · · Score: 1

      Dude I use the same pair, and they are indeed one of the best out there.

    5. Re:20 dollar sonies by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Part of the method used to protest bad corporate behaviour is to boycott them. The other part is to spread the word. Only being boycotted by the people you've screwed over probably wouldn't even do much damage to Sony, (although it would be much more than most)

      To stay on-topic, my favourites headphones are these JVCs at about $50, They have a cheaper pair for about half the price (HX-33s?) that are almost as good. They isolate noise enough tthat I wear them while woodworking or mowing the lawn. Great sound, and I can wear them comfortably all day. You can actually get them on sale for about half the price listed on occasion. They seem quite sturdy, but I'm not that rough on headphones despite wearing them so much.

    6. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just out of curiosity, is there a large (Fortune 500) manufacturer of consumer products that you think DESERVES your business and that of others here?

      The point is that lots of people have a beef with practically every consumer-facing company, on the basis of product quality, or service, or policies regarding IP or customer privacy, or how and where they manufacture their goods, or the personality and character of the CEO, etc.

    7. Re:20 dollar sonies by mrchaotica · · Score: 1, Insightful

      At the risk of sounding AOL-ish, I'll throw in a "me too!" (Heck, I quit buying Sony when they were merely annoyingly proprietary -- when they insisted on putting MemorySticks in everything -- before they started being actively malicious to their customers.)

      Besides, even if all you care about is getting a good product, there's probably still one by another brand that's at least equally good, so why not pick that one instead?

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    8. Re:20 dollar sonies by spongman · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't be surprised if the people responsible for the malware/data-loss even know that the company makes headphones.

      seriously. i used to work for them. i can't believe there's a company more incapable of making effective use of its assets & talent.

    9. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, it isn't petty. You, I, and a whole lot of other people are all in this exact boat. It just so happens I needed to replace my busted SONY headphones not long ago. I got a nice pair of (a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sennheiser">Sennheiser HD 280 Pro over-the-ear headphones, they are excellent. Now, I can't tell you whether they contain SONY parts in them. I don't think they do, but if they do, well, SONY only got a little piece of the money that, in the past, I have shoveled *at* them. For me, the SONY brand name is fucked forever, I'll go without before I (consciously) buy another SONY product.
      SONY has earned my disrespect.

    10. Re:20 dollar sonies by Smauler · · Score: 1

      Which alternative do you have?

      Yes, Sony are scummy, so are all the other multinationals. What do you want the consumer to do? What is the alternative?

      I'm serious here, name a "good" company I should purchase from.

    11. Re:20 dollar sonies by DogDude · · Score: 2

      I think the same thing about buying anything at Wal-Mart.

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    12. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've spent the better part of my adult life wearing in ear headphones. It started for me when I went to Germany when I was 16 and got a pair of Sony in ear with a retractable case and some exotic saphire diaghphrams. They lasted me for over 10 years until I accidentally put them in a jacket and zipped up the then thin cord with my zipper.

      Next, were Koss "The Plug" another odd make for me. In ear huge foam tips and very cheap ($14.99) and I think a lifetime warranty, if I hadn't lost my two pairs I bought (one failed and I just grabbed a new one at the store) but we are talking cheap, but very good sound quality.

      After the loss of those I went to Beats Tour that I found on Craigslist for $65 for a pair of them (probably knock offs) and within a week I skimmed over one of them because they fell out, and son of a b*tch. They broke! Great sound, terrible quality, noisy jacket on the cable.

      My favorite pair so far have been another pair of Sony, flat cord, MegaBass features. They were a $25 clearance find at a Walmart in my town. They haven't shorted over long workout sessions from sweat, they get pretty loud to the point where I know I should go back one or two clicks on my iPhone. But these have lasted with the same action of falling to the ground and me skimming over it. These do fit fairly nice, only really fall out if I have tension on them for a few body cycles and eventually they walk out. I will more than likely own another pair of Sony headphones before any other brand.

      I was given a pair of Shure 2xx series headphones from my old boss at an audio distributor, pro headphones. They were pretty flat, not very enjoyable sound wise, and they fit terrible. I gave them to an ex, which she sold for pretty good cash. So there's my take on those, ha ha.

      Look on Sony's site and they have some XBA-1, they are $71.99 but I bet they are probably pretty damn good.

    13. Re:20 dollar sonies by EdIII · · Score: 3, Informative

      There are a ton of companies out there that make headphones.

      How about picking one that is not extremely well known for fucking over consumers, sticking their noses where it does not belong (my home), and sponsoring (read purchasing) legislation that fundamentally violates our rights to Freedom, Privacy, and Anonymity just because they are loathsome greedy pieces of shit?

      Last I heard.. Denon, Coby, Bose, Urbanwear, etc. did not have any financial interests in copyright specific IP law, content creation, and content distribution.

      I understand your point that all companies might be objectionable in some ways, but some companies are clearly and flagrantly, objectionable in so many, many, ways.

    14. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know this will sound petty, but I'd rip my intestines out with a fork before buying something branded with Sony.

      Pics or it didn't happen!

    15. Re:20 dollar sonies by Undead+Waffle · · Score: 2

      Just to chime in here years ago I bought some Sony ear buds. I had to RMA one pair because the cord self destructed. The replacement was an upgraded model that also self destructed, but this time after the warranty expired.

      To be fair I had the same problem with Shure headphones. The rubber couldn't handle the oil from my skin and would eventually crack. But at least the Shures had a 2 year warranty rather than the 1 month BS the Sonys had. I guess it's not as big of a problem if you're not using ear buds you're in contact with all the time but I've sworn off of Sony because of this and other quality issues with their products. I would rather spend $100 more and get something that won't break and sounds much better anyway.

    16. Re:20 dollar sonies by Sorthum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I very much agree with you. The entire *reason* that those companies have so many divisions is that they want goodwill you feel towards one of their products (say, the Discman of old) to transfer over to other lines of products (say, their headphones).

      However, what this means is that when one division (or, in this case, several) radically screw the pooch, a lot of people associate the negative experience with the company as a whole. Ergo, due to the CD / DRM issue almost a decade ago, I won't buy a Playstation, a VAIO, or a $20 pair of headphones that say Sony on them.

      It's not just *GOOD* feelings that transfer over, Sony.

    17. Re:20 dollar sonies by sortadan · · Score: 0

      I understand that Sony as a corporation is not the best, but they don't operate child / forced labor camps or anything like that (to the best of my knowledge) and abide with the law. My position (which I'm sure many disagree with) is that if people want to be conciseness about something they should invest their time on a decent political campaign rather than trying to figure out what fortune 500 company isn't evil... because they all are in one way or another. Just get the best product at the best price so long as nothing egregious is going on with the seller, and invest time in breaking the stranglehold lobby groups have on our political system.

      To stay on-topic, my father was a sound engineer for most of working years, and he insists that these Sony headphones and their studio monitor series are the best ever made. (disclaimer: linked using my associates tag). They are $75, if you want to stick hard on the $50 limit, these or these are very highly rated as well.

    18. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i used to work for them. i can't believe there's a company more incapable of making effective use of its assets & talent.

      Oooh! Pick me!

      Symantec has quite the reputation of being incapable of many things, not the least of which is making effective use of its assets and talent. Its propensity for shipping technology and IP offshore and laying off its US-based engineering groups is widely known. I wouldn't work for them again even if you doubled my salary.

    19. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony is a large company and they put out many things

      ...so they can screw us over in many ways. ;)

    20. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      As far as I'm concerned, Sony is the only company I boycott.

    21. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ORLY? There are plenty of companies less scummy than Sony. You're just too lazy to look and are making lame excuses. Search with Google and Amazon for headphones, then look in wikipedia. Sony has done enough scummy stuff to have it listed on Wikipedia.

      For example, I doubt Sennheiser is as scummy as Sony.

    22. Re:20 dollar sonies by dargaud · · Score: 0

      To stay on-topic, my favourites headphones are these JVCs [HAFX67R]

      Well, I hope they are better than the JVC HA-NCX78 I just got to replace my excellent but broken Sennhauser PCX250. First they don't hold in my ears, having to push them back every 5 seconds. But above all the active noise cancelation is utter rubbish. I can barely tell the difference at some frequencies and none at all at most others. With the Sennhauser the difference was like when you turn off the woodworking machine !!!

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    23. Re:20 dollar sonies by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yes, Sony are scummy, so are all the other multinationals.

      There's an order of magnitude difference between dealing with a big bully who hurt your feelings (other multinationals), and actively financing the anti-christ (Sony).

      If you think that every company is a bad as Sony then you need your head checked.

    24. Re:20 dollar sonies by rvw · · Score: 1

      My 20 dollar white sonys from walmart are excellent. Dont know the model # off hand. But like I said 20 bones walmart.

      I've used AKC 420 headphones, Philips earbuds, Sony, now Sennheiser earbuds. All around €40, the latest Sennheiser €50. I've tried cheaper Panasonic earbuds (€30), but the cables were really bad, inflexible, and the sound quality was bad. I've noticed that you really get value for money. So €40 headphones are better than €30 ones, etc. For earbuds, the cables are important. And not that they should be super expensive oxygen free and stuff, but when you put them away, the cables get messed up, and it should be easy to get them apart. The Sennheiser have rubber cables, and they work great. The Sony had flat cables, which was even better. The Philips had a neck band. This is great for my ipod nano touch, which is small and light. But it's bad for an ipod touch or iphone. The cable is too short then.

      The Sennheiser has less bass than the Philips, but I like them more, because they have much more detail and I hear things I haven't heard before. The AKC was my favorite, because of the most comfort, until I bought a new backpack. I travel a lot and put the headphones in and out my bag, and the ear cushions wear out in this new backpack. I always have two or even three headphones with me. One in my jacket, one or even two (the older ones) in my backpack. If I change jacket and forget to take out my headphones, I still have a backup.

      You can spend up to $200 and even more on a headphone. That's up to you. I think the quality improves, but I don't know if it's worth the money. Not for me at the moment.

    25. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tend to agree. But I still love my old Sony MDR-CD3000 headphones. I bought many others over the years but the CD3K remain pure bliss. I wonder if they are still available for sale..

    26. Re:20 dollar sonies by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

      There's a trick to putting them in, and I prefer the marshmallow adapters rather than the rubber ones (they come with a selection of types and sizes). I find that if you pull your earlobe out and forward while seating the earbud it seals nicely and stays in place. You get they hang of it quite quickly.

    27. Re:20 dollar sonies by rjforster · · Score: 1

      This happened to me too, the cable that passed over my ears cracked. They were replaced twice under Shure's warranty. No quibble whatsoever. I kept the inserts each time so I didn't have to break in new ones.

      When the 3rd set broke in the same way the 2 years were up so I bought the next model up and these haven't had a problem at all. Though they are out of the price range of this ask-slashdot question. The inserts I use now are the same flanged ones on my "musician's ear plugs" I wear to gigs, so my ears are used to the same shaped thing being in them and it is all very comfortable.

    28. Re:20 dollar sonies by cowbutt · · Score: 1

      I got some of those HA-FX67s for about £12 from a supermarket. I wasn't expecting much, but I think they're pretty darned good compared with the Sennheisers at a similar price point I've sworn by in the past. I mostly listen to rock and metal, and with a bit of scooped EQ, they sound pretty good. I suspect they'd work quite well for electronic/dance stuff too.

      I picked up a pair of Goldring DR-150s for a bargain price of just under £30 a few years back; they're pretty good for at-home listening, but being open-backed are too anti-social to use whilst commuting etc.

    29. Re:20 dollar sonies by elashish14 · · Score: 3, Informative

      A million times no! When I got frustrated with the headphones that came with my phone because the buds kept falling out, I replaced them with some earbuds from Sony. The sound quality would basically qualify as what I call Brittney Spears quality. In other words, they have no bass, the treble is hissy, the sound is static-ey and unclear. To me, the represent another low-quality piece of crap from Sony made with the slogan 'rush it out and try to make as much money as possible.' No quality, no value, nothing. I can't imagine a $5 pair sounding worse. I knew it was a mistake to buy from Sony, but I gave them just one more chance. Not doing it again.

      Personally, I got a Sennheiser HD 202 for $20 and they're quite simply the best value you can possibly get for headphones. For the price, the sound is impressively rich, clear and well-rounded.

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    30. Re:20 dollar sonies by nikolardo · · Score: 1

      Same here, only I got mine at the town dump for free.
      They have a nice long cord as well - 10' (about a meter) or so?
      But yeah, they make good sounds.

    31. Re:20 dollar sonies by msobkow · · Score: 1

      Lately Sony has a lot more problems than that:

      • CD/DRM issue
      • PS3 security breach
      • Quality of TVs no longer any better than anyone elses
      • Refusal to allow any more class actions when they do screw up.

      Personally it's that last point that irks me most about Sony. Any company that arbitrarily refuses their customer's right to compensation when they screw up does not deserve my business. No one gets my business by assuming I'm a criminal instead of them.

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    32. Re:20 dollar sonies by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      This is why I'm giving Samsung's mobile division one more chance before switching to Sony.

      Sony's mobile division has been doing GREAT things in terms of cooperating with the open source community and developer relations (they were one of the #1 AOSP contributors last year) - But now that Sony has bought out Ericsson's share of the division, I'm waiting a while longer to see if they devolve back to "more Sony bullshit".

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    33. Re:20 dollar sonies by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      I have the HA-NC250. And I am rather pleased with them. They are comfortable, I get good sound quality, and the noise cancellation while not perfect, is nice to get rid of a lot of background noise... Computer and AC Fans, background conversations, Laser Printers... Oddly enough this white noise when stopped gives your ears a feeling of relief.

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    34. Re:20 dollar sonies by Admiral+Llama · · Score: 1

      As for quality issues, Sony's been outsourcing lots of their lower end products. What people are likely complaining about are the lower end products that aren't really Sony products anyway.

    35. Re:20 dollar sonies by fullymodo · · Score: 1

      The rubber couldn't handle the oil from my skin and would eventually crack

      I suppose an occasional shower is out of the question?

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    36. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The old saw... First they came for... but that wasn't me, then they came for.... but that wasn't me, and then they came for me and there was no one left to defend me applies here bigtime...

    37. Re:20 dollar sonies by gemtech · · Score: 1

      Sony may be evil (some divisions, although I keep buying their Sony Bravia LCD TVs), but Walmart is worse. IMHO.

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    38. Re:20 dollar sonies by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      The ironic thing is that the only reason Sony got into media at all was to quash crap like this. Back in the 80's they were trying hard to introduce digital audio tapes (which *should* have taken over the audio market). However, the media companies hated the idea of perfect copies (sound familar?) and fought them in court for years. Finally, Sony got frustrated and just *bought* the company suing them. Problem solved.

      Well, except for two minor issues. The first was that in the interveneing years CD's were introduced and took over the market rather than Sony's digital audio tapes. The second was that now Sony was also a media company. So the next time a new generation of writable digital technology came down the pike, Sony had completely forgotten how they had got there, and was one of the ones fighting it and working to cripple it.

      I'm not sure what the moral of this story is, other than perhaps copyright holding corrupts.

    39. Re:20 dollar sonies by xpax666 · · Score: 1

      To stay on-topic, my father was a sound engineer for most of working years, and he insists that these Sony headphones and their studio monitor series are the best ever made. (disclaimer: linked using my associates tag). They are $75, if you want to stick hard on the $50 limit, these or these are very highly rated as well.

      Your father was absolutely correct. The Sony MDR-V6 is the best pair of headphones ever made. They have a frequency range that would make even a top-of-the-line current-day Grado cry.

    40. Re:20 dollar sonies by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      Funny, those are the exact same headphones I've been using for about 18 years for recording, the awesome MDR-V6. On my second pair now. Rugged, sound good. Maybe not flat-response but close enough for ears to make the necessary adjustments. Not sure why I picked them in the first place but I found over the years that other producers/sound engineers/musicians also swear by them. I had a pair of expensive AKGs at one point that were awful. I threw them away in frustration.

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    41. Re:20 dollar sonies by hypergreatthing · · Score: 1

      Every single sony earbud headphones i've ever bought died. Each time the wire that leads up to the speaker part has frayed and basically gotten disconnected.

      Ever since i switched to Sennheiser CX series i haven't been disapointed. I still have the original cx-300 i bought several years ago. I had to replace the silicone part of the headphone, but the speaker and wires are rock solid.

      There are all different variants now on amazon. Honestly you can't go wrong for the price.

    42. Re:20 dollar sonies by KingSkippus · · Score: 1

      There's a HUGE difference between, "This company does some stuff I don't agree with," and "This company consistently screws up." In my opinion, Sony clearly falls in the latter.

      For example, I really like Google. Am I 100% on board with everything they do? No; in particular, I think that their tracking and data collection is a bit worrisome. Still, that's about my only beef with the company, and they provide a crap ton of great service and have been an incredible force for innovation.

      On the other hand, every time I turn around, Sony is screwing someone else over. I've had a couple of Sony consumer electronics equipment, including a moderately pricey home theater system, go belly up on me. Their customer service was worse than miserable, and they screwed me out of two months of warranty. They distributed rootkits on music CDs. Their music division has been a very high profile member of the RIAA that has been suing filesharers for exorbitant and unreasonable amounts of money. They marketed the "Other OS" functionality of the PlayStation 3, then when some people bought it for the ability to customize their device, they yanked the functionality. They did things that were downright unethical in the Blu-ray/HD-DVD war. Their online entertainment division was compromised by hackers because of some egregious security lapses. And (other than my crappy electronics) those are just the MAJOR stories that have hit in the past several years; I've also seen a litany of more minor idiocies.

      So to answer your question, I don't have a problem with many Fortune 500 or, for that matter, many mid-sized or smaller companies either. Plenty of them deserve my business. You seem to be under the impression that I'm boycott-happy or something, but I'm not. I don't like, for example, Apple, but I don't sit around wishing they would go out of business, and I don't deny that they have a LOT of talented people there and put out products that are extraordinarily innovative and well-designed. Sony, on the other hand, is pretty much worthless in my opinion, and I'd just as soon the company go out of business. I'm pretty tolerate of a company making minor mistakes, but with Sony, it seems to be more of a culture of greed and incompetence. No thank you.

    43. Re:20 dollar sonies by optimism · · Score: 1

      Part of the method used to protest bad corporate behaviour is to boycott them. The other part is to spread the word.

      If you take issue with a corporation's behavior in general, then by all means, boycott them.

      If the problems are with specific products, then just don't buy those products.

      Many years ago, Sony did make some good electron-gun TVs. They also made a decent ruggedized boombox. You could say they made a good walkman, but Aiwa was much better. Computers? Sony made some of the leading ultraportables in the late 90s and early 00s, though arguably the Fujitsu Lifebooks were even better.

      Currently the only Sony products that I own are a couple sets of their earbuds. Current model is MDR-EX71, $40 on amazon, within the OP's price range. Great sound, decent bass, flexible cord, detachable extension cord, 3 sizes of silicone buds for different ears.

      The ext cord on my first set went bad, but the earbuds are still good.

      The only downside, though this applies to all sealed/silicone earbuds, is that you can't hear much of the environment around you, if that matters. So they're a bad choice for, eg, biking, or jogging in a city. But they're a great choice for, eg, blocking out the engine noise on a flight.

    44. Re:20 dollar sonies by wiedzmin · · Score: 1

      My 20 dollar white sonys from walmart are excellent. Dont know the model # off hand. But like I said 20 bones walmart.

      As much as I loathe Sony, I have to agree - I've had a pair of their earbuds for years, I don't even remember where and when I got them... and they still work like a charm and have great sound.

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    45. Re:20 dollar sonies by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      I agree. I don't buy Sony ANYTHING, not even music put out on one of their labels.

      That said, they have always made good inexpensive headphones, and a solid go-to. The key is to find alternatives.

      1) Sennheiser HD 202
      2) Koss PortaPro
      3) Audio Technica M20 or M30
      4) Superlux HD 681 looks very good too

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    46. Re:20 dollar sonies by cpm99352 · · Score: 1

      "They have a cheaper pair for about half the price (HX-33s?) that are almost as good."

      I think you're referring to HA-FX33: https://www.google.com/search?q=HA-FX33&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1440&bih=746&tbm=shop

    47. Re:20 dollar sonies by Eivind+Eklund · · Score: 1

      Add PS3 Other OS removal. In my opinion, that was effectively theft - they advertised Other OS and then removed it. I'm boycotting Sony on the basis of this; the rest are not really malicious (the CD/DRM issue is bad, butthere was not intentional and deliberate harm, just intentional and deliberate intrusion and risk addition.)

      The PS3 Other OS removal, on the other hand, is clearly, intentionally malicious. I did not get hurt by it - but I still boycott. I refuse to do business with a company that intentionally hurt their customers.

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    48. Re:20 dollar sonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have to agree with you. To stay on topic, Sony hasn't been really that good since the Walkman. I have several sets of their headphones and they sounded horrible. Heck, I can't even get knockoff Sony junk in the Southwest Asian area. I can get "dubai quality" Dr. Dre knockoff stuff on nearly any block.

      You can't get much worse than Sony quality these days, but you can do a lot better.

  2. Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Downside: almost transparent to sound. People can hear what you're listening to and the isolation you get is next to none. Still, audio quality is great for the price, they're light and very comfortable.

    1. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by gstrickler · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'll second that recommendation. I've had several sets of Sennheiser headphones over the years, and they've all had excellent sound quality. They've always been excellent build quality too.

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    2. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sennheiser CX300-II's if you want decent isolation. The sound is fairly good some complain about it being a bit bassy but I'm fine with it, the main thing for me is in ear comfort, they are absolutely superb never had a pair of earphones that you can rest your head on. Great for use on an aeroplane with the isolation.

    3. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Informative

      There are two headphones I'd recommend.

      For around $140 or less, the Grado SR80i's are pretty damn hard to beat. No isolation also (you can't really have good sound with closed headphones - the best ones with flattest response tend to be open). Spending anymore money on headphones is silly. It's strange, as Grado is "audiophile" but $140 makes it amongst the cheapest available. Hell, they're cheaper than the crap called Beats. The only downside is they can be hard to get (only sold at very high end audio stores - and probably the cheapest thing those stores sell).

      Of course, for less money... Koss Porta Pros (not Sporta). Darned thing can be had for under $50 and for a "cheap" brand, surprisingly good. In fact, they've re-released them with slight modifications. Not sure if they're still as good, but I think you can find the old version new still. 80's looks, open design again, but for a set of headphones that are cheap, stunning.

    4. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by bughunter · · Score: 2

      I'll second the Sennheiser PX100's. I've purchased several pair over the past four or five years, and not because they wear out. (I left one pair on a plane, and my wife claimed another pair.)

      These are on-ear headphones rather than over-ear. The audio quality is fantastic for the price, with rich bass and clear but not tweety trebles. They do not isolate much sound, but in some environments that's a benefit. I have not noticed that the audio is audible to other folks, and it's especially less than what I remember from cheap sony walkman headsets, in fact most folks assume that when I'm wearing these I can't hear them, but in fact, external sounds come thru quite clearly.

      Another benefit is that they fold up and fit into a case for travel. It takes a little practice to stow them quickly, but the case certainly makes them far more portable and rugged than they would be without them.

      If theres a real downside to the PX100s it's that they're not really suitable for active use. For that I recommend earbuds. (I have two pair of Lift Audio Icon series earbuds, they sound awesome and will change your mind about earbuds being unwearable for long periods... at Amazon they now sell for half of what I paid for them last year.)

      I also have a pair of Sennheiser PC350 over-ear gaming headphones with Mic. Those have even better sound than the PX100s, far better than Bose headsets imo. They're a little tight but very comfortable for long raiding sessions, and I even use them when not on Vent if I want to block out the sounds of the TV or leafblowers or whatever.

      I spent about 5 years exploring headphones and tried several different makes. Sennheisers won me over. Pick a Sennheiser set that appeals to you and you'll be happy.

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    5. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Tooke · · Score: 1

      Another vote for Sennheiser here. I've bought two different sets of their headphones, and I've been very happy with both of them. Specifically, I bought the HD 212s for $50 (extremely durable, lightweight, good bass, but they squish your ears after an hour or so) and then the HD 555s for $100 (also very durable, you can wear them for hours, even better sound quality than the 212s, but they're open-backed so no noise isolation). Neither of those quite fit the OP's specs, but my point is that Sennheiser is a great brand. Definitely check them out.

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    6. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a pair of Sennheiser HD515's and they are great, most confortable over the ear headphones I have seen, the material is soft and the headphones are built really well. Sound great! They do not keep the sound out all that good I guess compared to others, but man they make up for it in confort!

    7. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      I have an old Sennheiser HD202 and recently added a HD205-II.
      Both have accurate sound reproduction (I remember comparing Bode plots when I bought the HD202) and a good frequency range.
      Sound isolation is good on both. I use the HD202 at work without interfering (both ways) with the radio my coworkers listen to.
      I personally like the fit of the HD202 better than the HD205, even though it's cheaper, but the HD205 does feel more sturdy.
      Sound-quality wise, I don't think the more expensive models are worth the money when connecting to consumer-grade hardware. They may fit better though, or provide better isolation.

      Whichever brand you choose; if you care about sound quality use wired headphones. I've yet to encounter any affordable wireless headphone without audible noise. You're not going to find any good wireless headphone for below $50 (and the $100 set I used to have was pretty crap too).

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    8. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by dargaud · · Score: 1

      almost transparent to sound

      Well, there are open headphones and closed headphones. Open ones allow you to hear your surroundings, which is sometimes a wanted feature, like when you are biking. I use both kinds: open ones on my bike and closed one with active noise cancelation on the bus.

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    9. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make sure you are getting the PX100 version 1, from the reviews I have seen, Sennheiser made the PX100-II to be more mainstream (bass orientated) to the point of muffling the highs and mids.

      The PX200-II seems to get good reviews for balanced sound and isolation, so they might be better for going the cheap portable Sennheiser rout.

      For the cheap end, I would say the Koss Porta Pro, which retails $50 and can be found for around $30 on amazon. Similar sound to the PX100, but with a lifetime warranty. Problem is, their durability is not the best, sitting on them will break the plastic grove and pinon joint. Also the thin wires have a common problem of fraying, especially if wrapping them around the metal headband.

    10. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Third this recommendation. \Sennheiser PX100s and 200s are the headphones that got me hooked on high-end headphones. They're fantastic for the price. Also, consider Koss Portapros ($50, and they look like they're straight out of 1981, because they are) or Koss KSC75 ($25). Both are excellent in their price range.

    11. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by bstrobl · · Score: 1

      I recommend the Sennheiser PX 200-II with iphone controls. Closed compact headphones that are still comfortable and have very clear sound. Only thing missing is strong bass but its great for a large variety of music. The reason for choosing the iphone controls is the shoddy quality of the volume control on the normal version (some kind of cheap variable resistor which produces unequal sounds in the headset).

    12. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by SessionExpired · · Score: 1

      Thanks, just bought these (PX 100-II). They are indeed very impressive for the price, $60 in Denmark, and they can be folded down to something the size of a pair of sunglasses.

      Isolation isn't too bad, based on playing Depeche Mode: Violator at a realistic level (I'm 45) with the headphones placed over my thigh.

      I haven't used a pair of on/over ear headphones since the first iPhone came out. What a mistake...

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    13. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by SenseiLeNoir · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is also other considerations for closed vs open vs active noise cancellation
      Closed (including in ears)
      Pros:
      - reduce background noise by actually blocking the air from the outside reaching into the cup. Ideal for listening to delicate sounds with treble and mid range in relatively noisier environments.
      - Good bass response

      Cons:
      - due to closed nature, strong bass can "reverb" around the cup, as the closed nature does not allow excess pressure to "escape", causing treble to be lost, or the sound becoming distorted. At higher volumes/bass levels, the pressures induced can cause damage to the hearing system, and in some people can affect their ability to balance (they feel dizzy).
      - loss of outside sound

      Open backed:
      Pros:
      - "natural" sound as air is free to escape
      - good dynamic range
      - safer for activities where you need to hear outside sounds.
      - perfect for quiet environments

      Cons
      - poor for loud environments
      - definition is lost in loud environments.

      Active noise cancelling:
      ANC is theoretically the best solution, as it allows an opened headphone to still be able to isolate external sounds.However, this is very much an exact science, where electirics "add" a negative phased waveform of the outside noise at the same time and volume as its passing into the ear.

      Unfortunately this requires:
      - High quality microphones placed as close to the ear as possible to record the outside sounds, as if your ear is picking up the sounds with as little distortion as possible, in order to create an accurate "negative sound". IT is at the moment hard to create such a "perfect" microphone, let alone one small enough to fit on the earbuds as close to the ear.

      - High quality, and fast electronics to process the incoming sound wave, invert it's phase, then mix into the music fast enough for the negative sound to reach the ear drum at the same time as the outside noise. If the sound is not exactly on the same "phase" it can reduce the effectiveness the the noise cancellation, and also induce a high pitched hiss. Its relatively easy to cancel out low pitched (up to 200hz) compared to higher pitched sounds (greater than 10,000 hz), hence why current technology only really manages to filter out low constant rumbles rather than high pitched sounds, and even voices.

      - Volume matching also needs to be as close as possible. Too low, and the external noise is not negated sufficiently. too high and also the noise will not only be canceled, but reinserted in the opposite phase. In addition, if there the sound is delayed, and the volume is high, it creates horrible sounding artifacts.

      - The headphones themselves need to re-produce the negative sounds well enough to cancel the noise.
      - Batteries/power source!

      In the case of ANC, it is a case of the more you pay, usually the better the quality. Those cheap no brand phones are likely to be appalling. Even the best are only good at reducing low rumbling noise (aircraft engines, etc) rather than general noise (traffic, people etc).

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    14. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Monsieur+Canard · · Score: 2

      The PX-100's are excellent, but their strain relief at the plug end sucks sucks SUCKS. I'm on my 5th? 6th? pair of them now and after a year or two of admittedly heavy use I lose one channel.

      But I've tried other on-ear headphones (can't stand earbuds for long periods of time) and none come close to the PX-100s for comfort and sound.

      It stinks having to buy a new pair every 18 months or so, but having phones on and music playing is the only thing that gets me through my work day.

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    15. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by machine321 · · Score: 1

      Hell, they're cheaper than the crap called Beats.

      How can Beats be crap? They're designed by a doctor, and (until recently) made by a Monster!

      I have a pair of older closed, full-ear Sennheiser headphones that are my "best" pair; I got them for under $70, IIRC they were the model under the 555 when they sold those. I didn't know about Grado at the time, that may have been a better choice. I also have a pair of wireless Sennheisers for TV viewing (by far the best wireless headphones I've used, RS120 I think) and an ancient pair of Radio Shack (rebranded Koss) on-ear headphones (from the '80s). They all sound different, and they all sound good to me.

      Note that only the RS120s are current models, and I've even had those for ~10 years. Good headphones will last forever. Try to buy from a brand that sells replacement ear pads.

      Try to get them from somewhere where you can either listen to them with your music or return them easily. Headphone preference is fairly personal, so you might hate the ones I love.

      If you're really serious, you'll also want to build a small headphone amp. You could buy one, but then you'll have to turn in your soldering iron.

    16. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thirding this. Robust enough too, given folding mechanism, and further protected by case. Teamed up with FiiO E7 dac further enhances the listening experience.

    17. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Grado SR80i's are $99 with free shipping at Amazon.

    18. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been using PX100 for several years too - 1 at work and 1 at home. I never get tired of wearing them. I use them to listen to classical, jazz, play diablo, watch anime, play on digital piano or bass guitar on portable amp... I'm happy with the set in any of those activities.

      And I recently replaced the ear foam pads with Sennheiser's own replacement part - it's really nice to have the replacement part available.

    19. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by soupforare · · Score: 1

      Koss Porta Pros

      Yeah these are still great, still lifetime warranty too. Their Pro4AA are one of my favorite 'cheap' closed phones, but they're not especially portable.

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    20. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by gstrickler · · Score: 1

      I have PX100-II, and while I don't have an original PX100 to compare them to, I don't find mid and high to be muffled.

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    21. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Matheus · · Score: 1

      For the OP's $50 I have to say I've always been a fan of my Sony cans. When they originally debuted the MD-600s they were hands-down the best cans for the price, plenty usable in a pro environment. I've since switched to the MD-V700DJ because they have bigger drivers, more sturdy head mount and the form factor is better for how I use them.

      There are more pristine sounding audiophile headphones out there for more money but these are pretty damn good and price point is excellent. Bang-for-buck win. (I just bought a replacement pair for $130 including shipping)

    22. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      Audiophiles hate it when you recommend BOSE or SONY, but I did have a lot of happiness with my Sony MDR-NC200Ds active-noise cancelling earphones. They list for $120 or so but I was able to buy one on sale for $80. I don't know if they are often on sale, but you might be able to get one for $80. If you can, do it. Not only are they great earphones (at least to my ears), they also cancel noise actively, which helps during commutes or airplane flights when you're seated right behind the engines.

      http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/sony-mdr-nc200d-black/4505-7877_7-35020456.html?tag=rb_content;contentBody

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    23. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use some open back headphones for listening at home, and closed backs when I'm recording (guitar) in the studio, noise canceling or buds on airplanes. Consider where you'll use them when making your decision.

    24. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I have hardly done extensive testing of earphones personally, I have used PX100s at work for the past few years and have been very happy with them. I do not, however, work in a particularly noisy environment. They also collapse into a fairly small size.

      For airline travel, I use Sennheiser PXC 300s, which are noise canceling. They also sound very good and come with a very long (arguably too long) cable. the batteries is in a little pod thing that is inline with the cable and often results in the cable getting all tangled up and needing to be untangled in your lap on an airplane before use, but they are fairly comfortable once donned and do a good job of canceling noise. They also fold up small and come with a nice carrying case. Looks like they have been discontinued but there is probably a newer model that is comparable.

      For occasional home use, I have the bottom-of-the-line Sennheiser large muff-style earphones (think I paid around $45) and they also sound pretty darn good, frankly. All three pairs of my Sennheisers are several years old and have been 100% reliable. I cannot say that about most of the headphones that preceded them.

    25. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by RandomMonkey · · Score: 0

      I love my Sennheiser PC300 G4ME Earbuds. They cut out a lot of noise. They also have great bass and the mic (not boom) works great. They are in ear, but they are SOOOO comfortable, even over long periods of time -- > 24 hour gaming sessions and I hardly notice them. And they are around $50.

    26. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfeWfnFCy-Y

    27. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't hate it when people recommend crap.
      We just say "ignorance is bliss".

      Because we know what you're missing.

    28. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by JBHemlock · · Score: 1

      I'll second the Porta Pros. I bought a pair for $45 a few years ago and was amazed at how good they sound. They're also very comfortable (they have an adjustable pad that rests on your temples and takes the pressure off your ears), and have a lifetime warrantee (they replaced the cords on mine after my daughter destroyed them for the cost of shipping).

      I'm personally an in-ear guy - I mainly use a pair of Etymotic Labs MC5 earphones and a headphone amp with my iPod. The MC5s can be found for $50, and they sound awesome. They are not bass-heavy, especially with a portable media player, hence the headphone amp. I use a cmoy amp that JDS labs built for about $60. This will all take you over $50, but you don't have to spend it all at once - I used the Porta Pros for a few years, then switched to the MC5s, then bought the headphone amp a few months later.

      If you do go for the JDS amp, be sure to tell them what you're listening to, and with. They'll tweak the amp to sound best with your gear and your music.

    29. Re:Sennheiser PX100 by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Actually, creating "perfect" microphones is routine. Electret microphones can be tiny, flat from below 1 Hz to far above 20 kHz, and sell for $1 or less.

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  3. Best for the money isn't 50 unless you get used. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So try CL and get a bottle of alcohol to wipe down that stolen pair of Bang and Olfsens.

  4. Monoprice! by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I bought two pairs of Monoprice 8323's and I think they are fantastic. I keep one at home and the other at work.

    I've never been disappointed with anything I've bought from Monoprice.

    These same headphones are available from other people (Kicker and others) for significantly more money.

    1. Re:Monoprice! by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

      You'd better be right. I just bought 3 pairs of different headphones. Great prices. I am hoping the fabric covered wires indicates that they aren't the cheapest crap ever made. I bought some headphones on ebay a while back and it was listening to everything through a wet sock.

    2. Re:Monoprice! by V-similitude · · Score: 1

      I absolutely love Monoprice's earbuds. I often lose or break mine, so I like cheap ones I can easily replace. I'm used to pretty crappy quality, but when I realized Monoprice sold some, I was pleasantly surprised at how nice they were. (Though, they're still $5 earbuds, don't go expecting some crazy sound quality.)

    3. Re:Monoprice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup... you get full stereo performance for a mono price.

    4. Re:Monoprice! by DusterBar · · Score: 1

      I can attest to the quality of the 8323 from Monoprice. They easily match more costly enclosed headphones. Not quite to the level of a top end Sennheiser but the good Sennheisers are all open design. I would take this Monoprice model over any Sony phone, no matter the price. (Oh, and they are also rather comfortable for an enclosed headphone...)

  5. klipsch s4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    these are fantastic for the money (a little above budget at approx. 70$ on ebay in canada). i'd say the bass response is a little underwhelming but i got used to them.

  6. Sony MDR 7506 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Not under $50, but Sony MDR 7506 or the MDR V6

    1. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Uhm, no. I have had a pair of the Sony 7506's for about 10 years now.

      I just replaced them with the Sennheiser 38o pro. There is no contest. The senns sound clear, clean, with an excellent soundstage. The 7506 sound mushy / boomy.

      Go read other people's reviews / rankings at head-fi.org for confirmation.

    2. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by spongman · · Score: 1

      that's hardly a fair comparison... sure the sennheisers sound better, but they cost twice the price - they had better sound better.

      I have two pairs of 7506s, one nearly 20 years old. they still sound great.

    3. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by webdog314 · · Score: 1

      Honestly, I would be quite surprised to find a decent pair of headphones (sound and comfort-wise) for less than $100. For less than $50 you can probably get something light and comfy, but it'll be crap for sound quality and isolation. Or you can find something that isolates well, but squeezes your brains out your nose and sounds like the inside of a garbage can. But once you hit the $100 mark, then you start to have some real choices. I've had three pairs of MDR V6's, and for the money, I have yet to find anything close in terms of sound, isolation, and comfort. BUT - Sony has turned the physical *quality* of these headphones into utter garbage. The first pair I had lasted 10 years with pretty hard abuse. The second pair made it 2 years before literally falling apart. They also changed the material used to make the spiral phono cord into that horrid Sony patented TangleMatic crap that got so bad that I finally chopped the damnable thing off and put on my own shorter straight cord, as any 'studio monitor' should have in the first place. My third pair is already dying (cushions) after less than a year, and the cord is getting snipped this weekend.

      The sound range on the V6's is incredible for the money, but damnitall, Sony has dropped the ball on quality and that alone makes them a poor choice today.

    4. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      I'm not an audiophile but I disagree.

      I have a pair of Koss UR20 headphones that sound great (to me) but isolate very well (sometimes I'll just put them on to drown out the office chatter). They sound decent enough for me listening to techno (which has a rather wide range of frequencies). Now I've never listened to a $1000 pair of headphones before so I can't compare, but they sound a whole lot better than my earbuds (which are great for running, the Koss' not so much).

    5. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by metallurge · · Score: 1

      Agreed on the MDR-V6es. I still have my late-80's pair. Best audio investment I've made.

      FYI, you can get replacement ear foam cushions as a relatively inexpensive Sony spare part. I believe I got my last pair from Sweetwater.

      I'm morally opposed to buying or recommending Sony products, but I have made a solitary exception for the MDR-V6es. They are that good for the price. It's a shame the quality has apparently declined lately.

    6. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by DusterBar · · Score: 2

      I would disagree. You can easily find some nice phones for reasonable price. The Grados were always highly rated (and considered under-priced) with the 60s available for just around the $50 price limit (over $50 but not by much)

      And, if you want an enclosed set, the Monoprice 8323 are hard to beat and would beat most other enclosed phones in the under $200 price range and they are under $25.

      However, if you really want the best, yes, they cost - but "decent" is available, just not from consumer brands like Sony.

    7. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by Zerth · · Score: 1

      Buy the best sound quality headphones, without caring for noise isolation, that you can get for 40 bucks.

      Then buy a pair of hearing protectors at the hardware store and hack the speakers into them.

      If you're feeling a bit more adventurous, buy some good earbuds for the mids/highs and some so-so 1" speakers for the lows and do the same thing.

    8. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by serbanp · · Score: 1

      The V6 quality decline must have been caused by the production moving from Japan to China (somewhere around 2002-2003).

      I have both pre- and post-move V6s and the sound quality of the China-made ones is significantly lower. Yes, they look the same but don't sound as good.

    9. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had my mdr-v6's for years, yes the cord can be a bit frustrating, but that is fixable, and yes the cushions do go, but those go on all headphones, I picked up a (maybe) $10 set of replacement microfiber cushions for mine this year. Wonderful quality, and considering i would buy $30 koss headphones every 6 months or so because the damn things would break in that time ive saved plenty of $ over 5 years, with 100 or so up front, and 10 more recently. you can get good response range cheep headphones, not not durable ones, go find some used mdr-v6's or buy new and splurge on some nice ear cushions they are easy enough to replace.

    10. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by jemenake · · Score: 1

      I've had three pairs of MDR V6's, and for the money, I have yet to find anything close in terms of sound, isolation, and comfort.

      I have to agree. I've still got the MDR V6's that I got for Christmas back in the 80's. I can wear these things for hours on end and I forget that I have them on. Plus, they do a pretty good job at eliminating outside noise and, for the money, the frequency response is great. The V6's have ruined me for so many other headphones, it's not even funny. It still surprises me to be watching TV and they'll show some sound engineer in front of a big mixing board... and the dude has a pair of V6's on. Also, I once did a tour with a semi-famous solo musician, and I noticed that his front-of-house sound guy had his V6's in the little bag that they come with (because, yeah, they fold up for travel, too).

      It *is* unfortunate that the ear-pads deteriorate after a few years, but you can get new ones on ebay for fairly cheap.

    11. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Correcting myself. They're JVC HA-RX900 headphones. I had the Koss's in college.

      I leave them at the office since that's where I like to be 'isolated' the most. Very high reviews and there are some DIY sites on how to add extra noise protection and improve sound quality.

    12. Re:Sony MDR 7506 by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      I got a pair recently and they seem fine. I can't say if they compare directly with my first pair as they finally gave up on me. Still good, even if made in China.

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  7. They cost about $79 by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2

    And they are "Studio standards" - AKG-240M. Big, comfy and accurate. Not as good as $200 Bose or Sennheisers, but a fuckton better than most of the other crap out there.

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    1. Re:They cost about $79 by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 5, Funny

      oh, and 10 shitloads = 1 fuckton, just so's ya know.

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    2. Re:They cost about $79 by Danzigism · · Score: 1, Informative

      I'm very happy with my AKG K240 studio headphones. They are also close to $99 retail. But worth every penny. The audio cable is detachable as well so if years down the road you get a short, you can easily replace the cable for about $15. If I'm just at home, nothing beats a pair of big ass headphones.

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    3. Re:They cost about $79 by macraig · · Score: 1

      The 240Ms looks a lot like the Realistic-branded cans that I bought in the early 90s, with a single active and six passive diaphragms. I loved those cans and still do, but I can't wear them now for any length of time because of physical pain to my ears.

    4. Re:They cost about $79 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the original question mentioned noise isolation I would also like to mention the AKG K271 which is similar to the K240 but closed-back. They are well over the $50 budget mentioned, but they are built like a tank and if they last as long as my old K400 you may be looking at a per-year cost that beats anything you can get for $50.

    5. Re:They cost about $79 by Sideshow+Mark · · Score: 1

      oh, and 10 shitloads = 1 fuckton, just so's ya know.

      I think you meant "metric fuckton".

    6. Re:They cost about $79 by catmistake · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not as good as $200 Bose

      Just something to consider... I know what you're saying, but "good" of course has different meaning for different applications. I've never heard Bose headphones, but I have heard other Bose audio, and while it sounds very nice, for what is popular today in what people want to hear, in my experience, Bose can almost never actually be considered having fidelity, that is, faithful to the actual audio that is being amplified... because I have discovered they are always incredibly bass heavy. In a studio, this might be fine for cans for a drummer... if an expensive option. For purely enjoying music, they are pleasant I have little doubt, Bose does some pretty incredible things. But you're hearing more than the artists intended, FWIW. I'm no Bose expert, haven't listened to any of their headphones, but I would expect if you tried to mix music with them, all your music would end up sounding weak in the low end... because you're mixing with a heavy bass handycap. If the music you listen to is traditionally bass heavy anyway, I wouldn't expect Bose to be considered good for that application, unless you just really love low end and don't mind that you're hearing more of the headphones and less of the music.

      Again, I am no expect, but I would consider the best headphones those that faithfully reproduce music flatly, in all its gory sonic imperfection, and not try to boost any frequencies because the sound of it happens to be popular right now.

      I like Bose radios for their compactness... big sound, small box... but I have no delusion as to whether the audio coming out of it is actually really what I am listening to... if that makes any sense (how much is the artist, how much is Bose?). Most people would hate the way studio monitors sound, but if Bose made such a thing in a compact box that didn't boost frequencies and faithfully reproduced the signal no matter what it was, I'd be all over it.

      ...just my uninformed $.02... YMMV

    7. Re:They cost about $79 by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Funny

      You don't need to state that. Of course it's a metric fuckton, everyone knows an imperial small fuckton = 6.235 imperial large shitloads.

    8. Re:They cost about $79 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that would be a metric fuckton then.

    9. Re:They cost about $79 by machine321 · · Score: 1

      oh, and 10 shitloads = 1 fuckton, just so's ya know.

      And one shitload is "everything you can carry in both arms, plus one". Geez, these kids today don't know Système international d'unités (pardon my French).

    10. Re:They cost about $79 by fullymodo · · Score: 1

      And one shitload is "everything you can carry in both arms, plus one".

      Then what's the conversion rate for people with only 2 arms?

      --
      In the land of the blind, the one eyed man still has no depth perception.
    11. Re:They cost about $79 by MrSenile · · Score: 1

      African or European?

    12. Re:They cost about $79 by fullymodo · · Score: 1

      African or European? I don't give 1.5 shitloa... AAAARRRGH

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      In the land of the blind, the one eyed man still has no depth perception.
    13. Re:They cost about $79 by ubergeek65536 · · Score: 1

      I bought a pair of Superlux HD681 for $25 which are an AKG240 copy. To my ear they sound the same and they sound the same.
      http://www.head-fi.org/t/436092/superlux-hd681-impressions-akg-copy-budget-open-air-headphone

    14. Re:They cost about $79 by Matheus · · Score: 1

      Bose has more problems than just inaccurate sound...

      This guy writes a fun rant :-)

      http://philintheblank.com/philled/Bose.html

      No Highs, No Lows, Must be BOSE!

    15. Re:They cost about $79 by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 1

      I generally agree with you. My advice (as a musician) is to consider visiting a Guitar Center or Sam Ash and checking out the "pro-audio" headphones in their Recording section. The Sam Ash near me probably has around 30 to 40 different headphones that you can try on and listen to (they're all receiving the same music, so you really get to try them out). It's really great for contrasting and comparing. As you can see here , there are plenty to choose from in the $50 range.

      Just to throw in my 2 cents, if you're willing to shell out $50 more these KRK headphones are fantastic. I use them in my home studio all the time. They're very comfortable and I find their response to be pretty impressive. I find them adequate for composing everything from orchestral scores to the craziest dub-step mashups you can find, so I think you'd be pretty happy with them.

    16. Re:They cost about $79 by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Bose has more problems than just inaccurate sound...

      This guy writes a fun rant :-)

      http://philintheblank.com/philled/Bose.html

      No Highs, No Lows, Must be BOSE!

      Love it! (aside from the bizarre and unncessary political cracks about President Clinton and President Kennedy). I've seen the commercials... I think... I can barely remember, don't remember Herbie Hancock in them, and I don't see a problem with someone lying to promote some product (anymore... I am used to it, this is America ffs)... and I think I have seen someone that had 901's, but I never heard them nor was aware that there was an entire theory behind them, had no idea they were anything more than regular speakers of Bose's design. I have never actually purchased speakers for myself! But I when I do, I'll definately take a listen to his suggestion as par for the course, the Cambridge SoundWorks Model Twelve, if I can find them, but I think I can do better than a Panasonic SLSX469V that he recommends. If someone so passionate about fidelity sound is recommending a $500 system, I just can't ignore it. There's nothing wrong with purchasing used speaker systems, IMO, the more they are used (but not abused) the better they sound.

    17. Re:They cost about $79 by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      Not as good as $200 Bose

      Just something to consider... I know what you're saying, but "good" of course has different meaning for different applications. I've never heard Bose headphones, but I have heard other Bose audio, and while it sounds very nice, for what is popular today in what people want to hear, in my experience, Bose can almost never actually be considered having fidelity, that is, faithful to the actual audio that is being amplified... because I have discovered they are always incredibly bass heavy. In a studio, this might be fine for cans for a drummer... if an expensive option. For purely enjoying music, they are pleasant I have little doubt, Bose does some pretty incredible things. But you're hearing more than the artists intended, FWIW. I'm no Bose expert, haven't listened to any of their headphones, but I would expect if you tried to mix music with them, all your music would end up sounding weak in the low end... because you're mixing with a heavy bass handycap. If the music you listen to is traditionally bass heavy anyway, I wouldn't expect Bose to be considered good for that application, unless you just really love low end and don't mind that you're hearing more of the headphones and less of the music.

      Again, I am no expect, but I would consider the best headphones those that faithfully reproduce music flatly, in all its gory sonic imperfection, and not try to boost any frequencies because the sound of it happens to be popular right now.

      I like Bose radios for their compactness... big sound, small box... but I have no delusion as to whether the audio coming out of it is actually really what I am listening to... if that makes any sense (how much is the artist, how much is Bose?). Most people would hate the way studio monitors sound, but if Bose made such a thing in a compact box that didn't boost frequencies and faithfully reproduced the signal no matter what it was, I'd be all over it.

      ...just my uninformed $.02... YMMV

      One think I noticed about earplugs, and probably headphones too, (I have both), is that there is a legal limit to the number of decibels that they are allowed to produce. The vendors tell you to not damage your ears with too much loudness.

      As for radios, I have not found any home radio as good as a modern car radio for reception. Our car radio picks up stations with good stereo clarity which my home system fails to detect. Is it the antenna? Is there an extra RF stage between antenna and tuner, or is the IF strip (digital or analog), better in car radio devices than in home systems.

      For those of you who remember the EICO kit with a tube FM Stereo, I truly miss good reception that these systems provided. And for sound, my stereo system with Klipsh folded horns and with Electrohome speakers still give me that thump thump when listening to drums. And the horn tweaters were great on them too.

      Ah for the good old tube equipement with pairs of 6L6s running class A push-pull amplification.

      --
      Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
  8. STAX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    STAX

    1. Re:STAX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.stax.co.jp/

  9. Noise cancelling! by mdjnewman · · Score: 1

    If you can find some decent noise cancelling buds for that cheap I'd go with them. You're unlikely to get decent on/over ear anythings for that price IMHO.

  10. JVC Marshmallows by dank+zappingly · · Score: 1

    They're about 12 bucks on Amazon (more if you want the iPhone model), but they're cheap, comfortable and pretty durable. Sound is fine, but I'm no audiophile so I can't really tell the difference between earbud sound quality when I'm listening to MP3s.

    1. Re:JVC Marshmallows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second JVC when it comes to earbuds. Personally these are the best earbuds I've ever owned with regards to sound quality _and_ durability. I also have a really old pair of $5 JVC Gumy's that still work fine.

      Stay away from Sony and Skullcandy. Some of them sound decent, but they break very easily and quickly. Less than 6 months, tops.

    2. Re:JVC Marshmallows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I third this. They sound great, the marshmallows block most noise, and they're relatively cheap.

    3. Re:JVC Marshmallows by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      JVC Marshmallows are surprisingly good especially considering their cost.

      The only thing I've found to be a step up from them are higher-end buds upgraded with Comply foam eartips.

      Foam eartips are an absolute must...

      --
      retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
    4. Re:JVC Marshmallows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll second these, especially for the economically minded as general purpose ear buds. They're excellent for the price, and pretty durable. They sometimes tend to be a tad bass heavy I think, but a bit of EQ tweaking on the players can offset that. Mid's and highs are good. I prefer to run my EQ's flat, but when again, for the price, they're great.

    5. Re:JVC Marshmallows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      edit the above: They have that foam insert similar to ear plugs, that help isolate it.

      When I stated "bass heavy" I mean they're perhaps more bass heavy than artists intended, but not to the point of headache inducing.

    6. Re:JVC Marshmallows by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      Are the foam eartips washable or easily/cheaply replaceable? How do they hold up? Curious as I use disposable foam earplugs regularly on my motorbike. Some earbuds would make the longer trips a bit more pleasant, but I only get a few uses out of the disposables before they cease being something I want to shove in my ears...

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      +1 Disagree
  11. Bose by networkBoy · · Score: 1

    I know they get a lot of greif around here, but their earbuds have interchangeable tips to size them for your ear canal (S/M/L included) and they are $100. I use mine at work and for earbuds they are amazing (fidelity wise), and comfort is very good. I have a set of the $300 over ear QC15 (to replace my old QC1's) and I like them fine, but they are not nearly as good a bang for the buck as the earbuds.
    When I am doing actual audio/video work I have an ancient set of JBLs that I wear for the detail work and a pair of nice monitor speakers for actual previews, but I don't think you could find anything close to that for reasonable cost (hence why I still use the ancient ones).
    -nB

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    1. Re:Bose by Prune · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The lower end Etymotic earbuds are also around $100 and much better than the Bose.

      --
      "Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
    2. Re:Bose by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      I have a pair of Skull candy ones that come with that too. They go on sale for ~$10. I got my first pair at goodwill for $5, hands down worth it.

    3. Re:Bose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. The Etymotic Er-6is are decent intro IEMs. Though after trading my 6is for 4ps I would never go back.

      Skip ultimate ears super.fi. They are extremely prone to breakage and not all that comfortable. When I worked next door to their lab in Irvine, I used to have to swap mine out every month or two until the warranty finally expired. Very pissed.

    4. Re:Bose by Dr_Terminus · · Score: 1

      I second this. If in-ear-monitors don't bother you, then the Etymotic ER4Ps are about the best headphones you can get. I've had my pair for going on 7 years and have had no problems what so ever.

    5. Re:Bose by triffid_98 · · Score: 1

      Really? Because that's pretty much what I have had for 2 years now with no issues (Ultimate ears triple fi 10). Ordinarily they're over $100, but they periodically go on sale for less and sound fantastic. I keep them in all day sometimes since I work next to the marketing team and as long as you're using comply foam tips they're quite comfortable.

      If you do experience breakage (I haven't yet) you can get them re-bodied for around $80 USD from these guys...

    6. Re:Bose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lower end Etymotic earbuds are also around $100 and much better than the Bose.

      +1 for Etymotic. Have had several, tried other brands and gone back. Currently have the MC5 (http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/epcomp.html), great outside noise supression, very light and comfortable fit (I know people who thought they hated in-ear finding these comfortable), and a very accurate neutral sound (especially for the price) - but this last part is also the issue many will have with them. If you ask people if they want accurate neutral sound, many will say yes, but when they get it (and are used to more loudness oriented sound) they will often think the sound lack bass, "power", etc So if not familiar with this, try before buying.

    7. Re:Bose by Whuffo · · Score: 1

      I'll third that. I've had my Ety 4ps for about four years now and they're great. Those folks who are happy with their $20 Walmart junk don't know what they're missing

      Heck, speaker designers use the Ety 4 as their reference monitor. Yes, they're that good - better, in fact. Yes, the price is higher than what you'd get from the big box store - but once you've heard what good sound is really like you'll never go back

    8. Re:Bose by spatterson · · Score: 0

      I fourth that. Best headphones hands down, ever. I will never buy anything else. Ety MC5s are $58 and are ALMOST as good as ER4Ps. If they hurt your ears, they can form custom inserts that'll last you a lifetime.

    9. Re:Bose by Bob+C.+Cock · · Score: 1

      Etymotic make some excellent ear buds. I bought a pair for around $300 about 7-8 years ago and they still work great today. I originally got them for noise cancellation on air flights and I didn't want the big BOSE over the ear headphones. With the foam tip inserts they block nearly all outside noise. The only drawback to them is they get a little uncomfortable if you haven't broken in the inserts already.

    10. Re:Bose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I completely agree with Etymotic being far better. I had a pair of the Sony earbuds (on the upper end) and they sounded pretty good, but utimately with after a few times sliding my chair to view another computer and yanking them out of my ears, the shorted out like all the others. My Etymotic ER*6 earbuds sound amazing, and I have to say are near indestructable. I've sent them through the washer and dryer twice, snowboarding with cold/hot and snow on and in them, and abuse them daily at work.

      Ultimately you get what you pay for. In the $60 - $80 range, you'll get nice earbuds that have a limited lifespan before you need to buy another set. Pay more and you get higher quality. The ER*6 are around $150, but have lasted me longer than 3 pair of the lower cost models, and I've enjoyed far superior sound the entire time. You'll pay the same in the long run either way, so why not enjoy the best? At least that's how I view it.

      -Davey

    11. Re:Bose by tcr · · Score: 1

      Thanks.... interesting link. I had a few pairs of ER4P's. Fantastic sound, but I found the build quality was no match for my daily use (wire would eventually fracture - mono no fun). I got sick of replacing them at such high cost, and found that Klipsch X1's gave me 60-70% of the fidelity at a fraction of the cost... so no biggie getting replacements from Amazon if something broke.

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      Information wants to be beer.
    12. Re:Bose by virtualXTC · · Score: 1

      I have some Etymotic ER6I buds and they are great (only $60 at wall mart), and they are very level. Nevertheless, I'll probably switch to Product Westone T1s after these dye as they seem to preform similarly, if not better, but have a more durable cord with a better coating that reduces noise due to ftiction (wich is a big problem with the Etys)

  12. HD650's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've got a pair of Senheiser HD650's so old the foam padding needs to be replaced and they are frickin' awesome.

    I can wear them for 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week, in absolute comfort. They don't touch my ears at all, just the top of my head and the side of my head.

    And they sound magic.

    They're a full order of magnitude more than your price range, but worth every cent, and you can find them secondhand.

    1. Re:HD650's by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 1

      Is that a wired set? I've been wearing the wireless TR136 headphones for probably 5 years now.... I can wear these 15 hours/day (and I do because of my job) The soft foam around the ears is a huge improvement over the plasticy ones that sit right on the ear

    2. Re:HD650's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The HD650s really are as good as he says, and they're in fact a complete budget buster for the original question.

      and you really should count in the cost of a decent amp (one in the same price range as the 650s themselves), because the 650s are not anywhere near their potential without a good amp.

      you might be able to find used HD580s a good bit cheaper than used HD650s, but that's still pretty pricey if you're looking for $50 headphones.

      really the answer for "what is a good pair of $50 headphones" is "there isn't one, your budget is too low".
      I know people want to dispute this, but it's the same as "what is a quality reliable effecient used car for $1000?", the answer is "there isn't one."

  13. Monoprice by hawguy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Monoprice's $23 headphones have gotten some pretty good reviews:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-57337747-47/how-good-can-$21.59-headphones-be/?tag=mncol;txt)
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/608453/monoprice-dj-headphones-8323-review

    They sound good to me, but I'm not a serious audiophile, I just use them to cover up background office noise. I think the sound is comparable to the $80 Sennheiser's I use at home. (which, a friend tells me are completely unbearable compared to his $500 Sennheiser HD650's, so I refuse to listen to music through his headphones, 'lest some of his "golden ears" rub off and I find myself needing more expensive gear)

    1. Re:Monoprice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the sound is comparable to the $80 Sennheiser's I use at home. (which, a friend tells me are completely unbearable compared to his $500 Sennheiser HD650's, so I refuse to listen to music through his headphones, 'lest some of his "golden ears" rub off and I find myself needing more expensive gear

      The HD650's are arguably the best sounding headphones that have ever been made. At the very least, they're good enough to be within the realm of personal taste dictating whether or not some other company's model sounds better.

      You shouldn't worry too much about getting 'golden ears'. I wear HD650's all day long at work, and into the night for gaming and watching TV (on my PC), but when i leave the room I grab a pair of stock iPhone earbuds, because the inline play/pause/volume/mic are more important to me than having good quality sound.

      You can enjoy pristine sound without ruining your taste for mediocre sound.

    2. Re:Monoprice by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Interesting

      so I refuse to listen to music through his headphones, 'lest some of his "golden ears" rub off and I find myself needing more expensive gear)

      I made the mistake of shelling out a hundred bucks for a new pair of Shure headphones recently and now half my music is unlistenable.
      And I've also discovered that my laptop's headphone jack produces a steady hiss when it's powered on.

      Good headphones are a blessing and a curse.

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      o0t!
  14. Go to AVS forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    or Head-Fi. They aren't audiophile dumbasses but also they aren't the broke neckbeard losers that inhabit slashdot listening to their $5 Jensen headphones.

    1. Re:Go to AVS forum by Iskender · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually we use much more expensive headphones so that we can have noise-cancellation for the rustling of the beard. Do not under-estimate us.

    2. Re:Go to AVS forum by amcdiarmid · · Score: 1

      On that note: What are good, inexpensive, headphones with active noise cancellation?

    3. Re:Go to AVS forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      under-estimate us.

      that should be "misunder-estimate" us, just so you know

    4. Re:Go to AVS forum by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      I'd be a bit more interested in active beard cancellation...

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  15. AKG K44 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AKG K44: $20, sound pretty decent, isolation is good, reported to be comfy by a trusted friend.

    http://amzn.com/B001K3ENEA

    My recommendation is to spend a little more to get a whole lot more with the Sony MDR-V6's, at $75 on Amazon.

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00001WRSJ/

    Had these for years, they travel with me everywhere in their bag, I beat the hell out of them. Reponse is fairly level, bass has some punch and highs are a little pronounced, but they're the best sounding headphones under $100. They're great for EDM (Electronic Dance Music). I can wear them for many hours a day.

  16. You sound like you want some cheap DJ headphones. by nzac · · Score: 1

    You should be able to get a pair of sennheisers that fit around your ear.
    It's could be worth paying extra at that price range and what ever is on special that closed and around the ear would work.
    I have the 280s and they are pretty good for isolation.

  17. Sennheiser Over the Ears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My pick would be: Sennheiser PMX 60.

    Comfortable, good sound quality, reasonably priced.

  18. Who are you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hearing experience differs significantly between people as well as their tastes, so your only real option is to try everything out you can and make up your mind afterwards. I have no good offers for under $50 models, but you're looking at low end senns and other major brands like Sony and Philips and etc. At least they'll be cheap to try new models. I also suggest you look through head-fi's trade section. People often buy headphones to demo and sell if it doesn't suit them, as ultimately pays only postage as they sell it back for near same price.

  19. that's not a lot of money by milkmage · · Score: 1

    but check headphone solutions or earphone solutions dot com

    they have a $60 dollar section, and a 15% coupon right now for Father's Day. code = DAD15 until 6/17.

    I don't think many audiophile sites will even review pairs in that price range, so I'm afraid you're going to end up with Sony, Sennheiser, etc.. (mass market brands)

    buy a couple different pairs from amazon and just see which sound best to you. return the rest (read the small print for canal buds or in ear type - returns might not be allowed because of hygiene issues).

    i tried about 6 to 8 different pairs of over the ear cans... returned all but the Beyer Dynamics for the house and for my commute Westone 3s. Both well out of your price range though. Until I discovered "good" headphones and a DAC to go with.. I used Sony MDR71's and Grado SR81s (sony $40, Grado $100) music only, no mic.

  20. HeadRoom by juventasone · · Score: 4, Informative

    HeadRoom tests more headphones than probably anyone. They're unbiased enough to say when a $40 pair is better than $100 pair that they sell.

    1. Re:HeadRoom by TheInternetGuy · · Score: 4, Informative

      They're unbiased enough to say when a $40 pair is better than $100 pair that they sell.

      I have no experience from HeadRoom ( I am sure they are good if you recommend them).
      But I did use to work in an electronics store as a teenager, and I just want to say that it is quite possible for the reseller to have better margins on a $40 pair than the $100. Especially when the cheaper product isn't all that well known and the more expensive one is. So that is not really a foolproof sign that they are unbiased.

      --
      If my comment didn't sound as good in your head as it did in mine, then I guess we all know who's to blame
    2. Re:HeadRoom by Prune · · Score: 1

      I have multiple experience with them and back up GP's post.

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      "Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
    3. Re:HeadRoom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't even know what the hell we're talking about, but I know all three of you guys are wrong. Except the second guy, who makes all kinds of sense.

    4. Re:HeadRoom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I worked for HeadRoom for a year or so in manufacturing and at the time they had a big wall full of the headphones they sold that the employees could use to listen to while they worked. I spent a lot of time with basically all of them and I purchased three pairs while I was there to take advantage of my employee discount: Grado portables, Grado SR-60 and AKG-701s - this was in 2007 so it's probably a little dated. You may be able to find some SR-60s for $50. The Sennheisers, while not my personal favorites were always solid pretty much all the way up the line but I'm not sure if they have a $50 pair. Stay away from Bose and Sony. Honestly, at $50, you're probably not going to see a huge difference among the major names (Grado, Sennheiser, Beyerdynamics, AKG, Shure, etc).

    5. Re:HeadRoom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had Grado/Shure/Sennheiser and I totally agree with the post above. I never could really tell much of a difference until I got past 300$ or so.

    6. Re:HeadRoom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shame about the $45 international shipping fee, for a pair of in ear headphones, ouch!

    7. Re:HeadRoom by tomlouie · · Score: 1

      HeadRoom has informative reviews. I read multiple reviews (from them and other sources) and bought the following:

      Sennheiser HD202 for $25

  21. DIY Custom Molded on the cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you want comfort and ultimate noise blocking you can do a DIY version. I made a pair and they were fantastic and comfortable.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmk-y_9exJ8&feature=player_embedded

    Just pick up a set of decent earbuds, I used skullcandy ones when I did mine, and a radians custom earplug kit ($11).

    http://www.amazon.com/Radians-Custom-Molded-Earplugs-Red/dp/B002XULPSQ

    1. Re:DIY Custom Molded on the cheap by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Funny, along the same path, I ripped a pair sennheisers apart and installed them in a headpiece to practice shooting firearms or operating heavy and and noisy machinery. They are basically the same. Perfect noise isolation. I use them to record drums so I can't hear the drums directly, only the feedback from the headphones...

      Sorry, no video available.

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    2. Re:DIY Custom Molded on the cheap by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      If you don't want to do custom molded - Comply memory foam tips are GREAT. To the original poster - seriously reconsider in-ear headphones with proper tips for comfort.

      http://www.complyfoam.com/

      The stock rubber tips of every in-ear bud I've ever tried were highly uncomfortable and provided poor isolation.

      Skullcandy Titans with Complys have proven to be some of the best bang-for-the-buck I've encountered so far. The Complys are a MAJOR (but inexpensive) upgrade in comfort, isolation, and sound quality for any in-ear bud with rubber tips.

      Obviously many of the audiophiles will bash Skullcandy - I agree, they aren't the best quality (especially stock) - but they provide what I consider to be very good quality-for-the-dollar especially with one cheap upgrade. Considering your stated requirements of under $50, you don't have many choices.

      However, in one place you mentioned a microphone - if you want a microphone, that complicates things. I've had major problems finding any truly comfortable over-the-ear headset with a mic. You definitely won't find it in the under $50 range, except maybe the Logitech folding headphones - but these offer virtually no isolation whatsoever as they're on-ear not over-the-ear.

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    3. Re:DIY Custom Molded on the cheap by MrSpeakers · · Score: 1

      The DIY approach can yield really amazing results much higher quality than commercial phones in this price range. I discovered the Fostex T50Rp ($80) was a modder's paradise, and cut my teeth on it on head-fi here (I have a business doing Fostex mods, but it is unrelated to this thread): http://www.head-fi.org/t/452404/just-listened-to-some-fostex-t50rps-today-wow Another option is to forgo headphones and use in-ear monitors (IEMs). IEMs under $100 can sound way better than comparably priced headphones. Check out products from Shure, Velodyne, etc.

  22. Andrea by BaverBud · · Score: 1

    I have an Andrea headset I find fairly comfortable (http://www.andreaelectronics.com/Buy/headsets.htm). The only thing I dislike is that the mic seems to require a battery power pre-amp that has no on-off switch, so the battery dies often. Otherwise, I like the sound, and the mic quality is pretty good. I wouldn't consider it an audiophile headset though.

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  23. http://www.head-fi.org/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Please mod parent up +5 !

      Why? Because you can sort by -user- reviews, you know people who actually _have_ the cans you are interested in. :)

      It is not an accident that Sennheiser is consistently ranked best overall compared to other brands. Great German design.

    2. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by MogNuts · · Score: 1

      I thought the common thread on head-fi is that sennheiser isn't all that amazing. That there are a lot of other options that are cheaper AND sound better.

      Wasn't there an article a few months ago reccomending their favs, and sennheiser only had 1 out of like 10 in that list, and they weren't even that enthralled with it?

      I'm not an audiophile, but I've spent a year testing just about every config you can think of and a ton of headphones. It seems that, no offense, the groupthink on the net is to choose sennheisers or people repeat it. But the most important thing is to try the headset on, and listen to it and see if the sound is pleasing to you. And apparently, there are a ton that sound amazing (again not for audiophiles tho) but are dirt cheap--like $40-60.

      So no, even the above-average person doesn't need $200 sennheisers. Spend between $50 and 80 and call it a day. Tho my Sennheiser $35 earbuds are pretty damn good for earbuds

    3. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by Prune · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I know Jude personally (the guy that runs the site), and I can tell you that threads get deleted if they criticize any of the products of companies sponsoring the site. And there's quite a few of those. It's a very biased site as a result of persistent and biased moderation (not the users themselves). The old headwize used to be much better; at this point, one is best to refer to diyaudio.com (no commercial conflict of interest) and also the measurements and recommendations at headphone.com (commercial, but have managed to be very objective from what I can tell; plus I tend to look at the measurements more anyway).

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    4. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by Prune · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Unless you poorly review the product of one of the site's many sponsors, and then when a critical mass of this has accrued, posts, entire threads, and/or users are "disappeared", which Jude (site owner) freely admitted in the sponsors-only forum.

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    5. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by Prune · · Score: 2

      Etymotic ER-4S remain the best earbuds. I've tried the similarly priced ($300+) Shure and Weston stuff and they just add more bass and give up low distortion.

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      "Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
    6. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by MogNuts · · Score: 1

      Ouch that sucks. Guess I won't be going by their reccomendations then. Forget that Grado SR60. Though that JVC Harx 9000 or whatever it's called I see a lot of people love and it's $30. But anyway, thanks for the heads up.

      I guess it gives even more credence to my advice of simply actually trying on a pair to see if it's comfy and produces the sound you like. Too bad I can't seem to find a lot of places like that. Shame also that there is no equivalent of like an Anandtech which really reviews headsets and attempts to be objective.

      Where do you recommend finding places that have headsets to try? The only thing I can manage to find around here is a music store than has like only a selection of like 4.

    7. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by Prune · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, high end audio stores tend to be mostly in big cities. The other downside is that you end up trying a pair of $5000 Stax Omega 3's and then you feel inadequate in anything you actually do purchase lol. PS. Grados are colored as their frequency response is anything but flat. I've heard many Grado headphones, and they all have that signature sound. Some like it, but I prefer minimized distortion. If the source audio is bad, so be it, but I sure don't want the headphones to try to compensate for it anymore than I'd spray on more cologne to hide BO instead of taking a shower. For dynamic headphones, Sennheiser is my recommendation for anything in the $200 to $1000 price range. Below that I'm not sure. Koss Porta Pros are probably remain best in the sub-$50 range. Above $1K, AKG for dynamic headphones, otherwise Stax but for Stax also figure in the high voltage amplifier cost if you don't want to build one yourself which is an extra couple grand.

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    8. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by Prune · · Score: 2

      I can also recommend earbuds for portable use. Etymotic ER-4s. On the lower price point, their ER-6, which I used to have until psycho ex ran them over with the car. I compared them to some Shure and Westone stuff and the latter have more bass and more distortion...

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    9. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by Undead+Waffle · · Score: 1

      That's a shame. I've always gone there when I need a new pair of ear buds. That's how I found out about the Fischer Audio DBA-02s I bought over a year ago and couldn't be happier with. diyaudio looks like it's oriented more towards large sound systems and headroom desn't seem to cover the obscure brands.

    10. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by adolf · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised just how much "high-end" you can find in small towns, if you bother to go looking.

      I do some work for a local audio shop (population ~40k). They've got things from cheap ($20 ear buds for a kid's iPod) to excellent (Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser).

      They sell a lot more of the cheap products because everyone seems to assume that if you want to pay real money for better gear, you have to drive at least an hour to find it (to find a "big city").

      Meanwhile, alongside the mass-market Onkyo and Teac components are the likes of Parasound, Lexicon, and Krell.

      So, my advice (to anyone, not just Prune) is as such: If you're convinced you need to get in the car and drive over to $bigcity in order to spend money on gear, then do so. But at least do yourself the favor and stop at the local audio shop on your way out of town -- you might be surprised at the gems you'll find, and the local service is likely unbeatable.

    11. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by grawk · · Score: 1

      Scenario: Jackass gets post deleted because he's a jackass. Bitches. Continues to act like a jackass. Gets banned. Claims it's because he pissed off a sponsor.

    12. Re:http://www.head-fi.org/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regardless of what site is biased or whatever, don't stop considering the SR60. I have a pair, dead because of cable damage (run over with an office chair too many times), sitting in my closet. They are ugly as all sin, plasticky with a nasty vinyl headband and ear pads that fade almost to white in the sun. The on-ear design weighs on you after a couple hours and makes your ears sore. The whole room knows exactly what you are listening to. They are also, by far, the most 'fun' listening that I have had and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another pair.

      -- A slightly tipsy anon since 1998 who has been too lazy and antisocial to ever make an account.

  24. Cheap ones: Sony MDR-W08L by lemur3 · · Score: 0

    Ive been using some of these since the late 90s.. They are great.. sort of a combination of 'good' earbuds that will never fall out and over the ear headphones..

    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Lightweight-MDR-W08L-In-The-Ear-Headphones/dp/B00005N6KG

    $8.13 on amazon.com

    http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&partNumber=MDRW08L

    Sony calls them "Vertical In-The-Ear Headphones"

    worth a try

  25. Re:You sound like you want some cheap DJ headphone by naroom · · Score: 1

    Wearing a pair of Sennheiser 280's right now. I've had them for a few years, best money I've ever spent. They're durable and block out a fair bit of office noise. They sound great, too, they're a nice upgrade from the crappy $20 pairs you can find everywhere else. Perfect office headphone, also use them as monitors for my synthesizer.

  26. I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 0

    If you want to have a full blown no holds barred freaking audiophile experience worthy of a 10,000 home set up, walking down the street here's how you do it:

    1) Never listen to any music you buy from Apple or same. They compress the music until it's shit and no, their ALAC isn't worth a damn:

    http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#Comparison_Table

    No really, you don't have to have golden ears to hear the difference. Either take the time to burn tracks from CDs into a totally loss-less format like FLAC or do what I do and screw digital music for now, it's not ready for prime time- buy used CDs they're literally sonically perfect, (even too perfect for some vinyl lovers).

    Get yourself a portable, skipless CD player (which are sadly getting hard to get in decent quality anymore) and pair it with the most expensive version of this headphone you can afford, new or used,

    http://www.gradolabs.com/page_headphones.php

    disregarding entirely the in-ear variety because you said you want something *really* good.

    I own the SR325is and it blows everything else away including the highest end Bose (junk) Sennheisers etc etc etc.

    The separation of the sound and incredible detail is nothing you're going to experience this side of $6,000-a -pair home speakers. If you've been listening to digital audio, you've never even HEARD whole parts of the recording.. literally you'll hear things in the music, like, percussion parts, you didn't even know were there

    . Not to mention the actual quality and timbre of the vocalist's voice.

    This is the way to roll.

    1. Re:I know the answer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ... except Grados all commonly have the mid-range boosted, with only some noticeable bass (not the reproduction of it, but rather impact of the bass), and weird treble characteristics. It's highly coloured, and it's not detailed. Bowl models, depending on your ears, are still superaural rather than more comfortable circumaural. It's good for rocking out without being fatigued for long wearing due to its light weight and easy potential for modding, but it's no replacement for a good home speaker setup.

      Guy wanted flat response. Your response is entirely wrong from get-go.

    2. Re:I know the answer! by dcl · · Score: 4

      I was under the impression hardly anyone could tell the difference between lossless and a v0 mp3 on even pretty decent gear....

    3. Re:I know the answer! by rot26 · · Score: 1

      I had to decide: mod you up or respond with agreement. Pretty much anything Grado makes is an incredible value, but their "lower-end" headphones are a BARGAIN. The consumer brands otherwise mentioned here are toys in comparison. (Except maybe the upper tier Sennheisers.)

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    4. Re:I know the answer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Never listen to any music you buy from Apple or same. They compress the music until it's shit and no, their ALAC isn't worth a damn:

      http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#Comparison_Table

        No really, you don't have to have golden ears to hear the difference. Either take the time to burn tracks from CDs into a totally loss-less format like FLAC or do what I do and screw digital music for now, it's not ready for prime time- buy used CDs they're literally sonically perfect, (even too perfect for some vinyl lovers).

      Bullshit. ALAC and FLAC are both exactly the same. *Exactly* the same. There is no difference between one format and another except for what devices/software is capable of decoding it. Most modern hardware audio decoders can decode ALAC, while most cannot decode FLAC, which gives ALAC a slight edge in practicality.

      Audio CD is not "sonically perfect". Actually they sound pretty shit compared to what ALAC and FLAC are capable of.

      And if you want to compare quality between an Audio CD and a "mastered for iTunes" track, then you will only notice the difference with a really good "DAC". Because it doesn't matter how good your digital source is, unless you have good hardware to convert a digital signal into analogue sound waves, there really is no point wasting your time trying to get a good digital version of the song.

      If you are going to discuss high quality audio and %6,000 speakers, first take the effort to actually *learn how the fucking things work*.

      My home stereo is worth many tens of thousands of dollars, but I still buy MP3's online - because most of the time I'm not listening to music in my lounge room.

    5. Re:I know the answer! by Skapare · · Score: 1

      No really, you don't have to have golden ears to hear the difference. Either take the time to burn tracks from CDs into a totally loss-less format like FLAC or do what I do and screw digital music for now, it's not ready for prime time- buy used CDs they're literally sonically perfect, (even too perfect for some vinyl lovers).

      Agreed! Perfection is overrated!

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    6. Re:I know the answer! by Prune · · Score: 1

      I've heard essentially every Grado headphone that has been available at headphone.com over the years. And they are all--without exception--colored. They are for people that like that particular sound. For an all-around great headphone at mid-price level, Sennheisers can't be beat. The HD-580 were my mainstay for years, until I recently went all in and got Stax Omega 3s.

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    7. Re:I know the answer! by matthelm007 · · Score: 1

      I LOVE my SR-530's I had been using the ones that came with my iPod, and it was like AM vs. FM radio. You get what you pay for. And yes, FLAC all the way, off my own CD's. If you are listening to MP3's, use a tin can and a string, you won't know the difference!

    8. Re:I know the answer! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      screw digital music for now, it's not ready for prime time- buy used CDs

      Troll detected. Too close for missiles, switching to guns...

      This is the way to roll.

      Genetically different, baby.

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    9. Re:I know the answer! by johnny+cashed · · Score: 1

      Screw digital music? Then you recommend a used CD? Are there analog CDs?

    10. Re:I know the answer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Guy wanted flat response. Your response is entirely wrong from get-go.

      Yeah, what a douchebag, he should have posted in the OTHER front page story about headphones...

      jackass.

    11. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1
      Ahh ...my old nemisis, AC, so... you're interested in headphones TOO???

      Yeah you're right, they're really widely considered to be just so-so...

      "The SR325s are easily the flattest, most accurate sounding phones tested, for critical monitoring, the Grados are hard to beat. Of all the phones tested, the SR325s were the only headphones I felt trustworthy enough for mixing."

      --Pro Audio Review / Vol. 4, No. 6 / Loren Alldrin

      "Winner of Audio Video's "GRAND PRIX AWARD"

      -- Audio magazine / Vol. 82, No. 6 / John Gatski

      "...the engineer I assisted preferred the Grado's diamond-like 'clarity and cut' to the sound of the Sennheiser HD-650s."

      -- John Marks / stereophile, vol.28 no 6

      "...speakers of similar sonic ability as the 325i would set you back at least three grand"

      --What Hi-fi

      "...the degree of insight these headphones offer into sounds is really very impressive. This is high quality music reproduction, thoroughly deserving of serious attention."

      --Richard Black / Hi-FiChoice magazine

      "This headphone has something magic: a rare musicality that preserves the natural elegance of the music. The medium is refreshing, natural and sensual. The richness of the harmonics in the medium pulls you in. The instruments have a credible texture. The spectral balance is good. The timbres are rich and at time exceptional. The definition is flawless; the music keeps its nuances and richness of expression."

      --Diapason magazine / France

    12. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 2
      This is an old debate between digital and analog. The truth is, digital bits being put together are beyond the ability of the human ear to discern. What people like about analog, it's warmth, is a reaction to the imperfections that analog introduces, even though, yes, it's a continuous waveform and therefore potentially "more perfect:" than digital.

      It's an old old argument form , like the 80s and I am not going to go carry it forward beyond explaining the basics of it to people who have never heard it which is what I just did.

      Good day to you sir.

    13. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1
      And you're over here AC! My god , he's everywhere! He's everywhere!

      Audio CD is not "sonically perfect". Actually they sound pretty shit compared to what ALAC and FLAC are capable of.

      Except there is no recording available to the questioner of the original 24 studio recording for most music and "mastered for iTunes is lossy and yes, you can hear it (well, maybe not YOU)

      From http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2012/02/24/147379760/what-mastered-for-itunes-really-means

      If the implication there, that we haven't been treating our portable, compressed audio files with proper care, makes you think that Apple is finally moving toward a hi-def format, you'd be wrong. Instead, the company is asking bands and their labels to submit songs to the store that are encoded as AAC files directly from the original, 24-bit studio recordings.

      In Apple's calculation, mastering a song or album "for iTunes" means that it'll sound better while remaining just as portable as the encoded files we're accustomed to packing by the thousands onto our phones and mobile devices.

      The piece then goes on to say that "mastered for iTunes just means "given tools to make the 24 bit studio recording sound better when it's compressed into the standard apple ACC format . So it sounds "better" the way the Dolby button makes things "sound better", which is to say with a lot of artifacts added that some people find compelling . I leave that button "off" myself.

      So until studios start saving the recordings to Apple's lossless format - which is NOT what "Mastered for iTunes" means -, the poster is going to have to be comparing 16 bit CDs to lossy formats.

      I have sat in the studio while professional music was being performed and and recorded. Something is lost from the performance even in 24 bit. 24 bit does sound better than CDs but unless you have the master tapes to burn to FLAC, it's a moot point. Some bands are releasing true 24 bit recordings on their own. Most music is not available in the original 24 bit and re-recording it INTO 24 bit is not going to improve it.

      ALAC is as good as FLAC sonically. I meant to say ACC and typed the wrong thing. My bad and I stand corrected.

      I hope this thread helps the OP. To the many faces of AC who just can't resist being freaking nassssty over trifling things , well the cure for you is structural and in place already; that's what the 0 by your comment is there for...

    14. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      How do you elect to mod a comment up? I just occasionally see invitations to rate a selection of randomly chosen comments which I can mod up or down (on threads I have not participated in) ...

    15. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      I've heard the Senns and I thought they were colored so there ya go !

      Staxs also make good headphones, you're right.

    16. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      No troll. This is what I have concluded based on what has been available and Neil Young agrees with me about lossy formats.

      http://www.tomsguide.com/us/neil-young-mp3-dsd-digital-music-audio,news-14088.html

      So there!

    17. Re:I know the answer! by Mike610544 · · Score: 1

      It's hard to accept, but digital now means "on a hard drive" or something. CDs and DVDs aren't considered digital. I bought a blu-ray a while ago and it actually said on the box "Includes bonus digital copy!"

      It's maddening, but sometimes I find it best to just accept these things. It's not as bad as the whole hacker == criminal thing.

      --
      ... also, I can kill you with my brain.
    18. Re:I know the answer! by catmistake · · Score: 1

      They compress the music until it's shit

      I have to agree... very few lossy options do not... I am unaware of any.

      and no, their ALAC isn't worth a damn:

      http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#Comparison_Table

      No really, you don't have to have golden ears to hear the difference.

      Well, apparently, you do. While the ALAC format may have technical characteristics that aren't as desirable compared to other lossless formats, the audio itself isn't one of them. In case you missed it, lossless means "lossless," and the information you linked to says nothing about how any of those formats sound... because its a comparison of lossless formats, thus, by definition, they sound exactly the same as the original uncompressed digital commercial format. If they didn't they couldn't be lossless. Not only can't I hear the difference between one lossless format and another, no one can.

      Beyond that, I appreciate your post... but saying that you can hear that ALAC is inferior to other lossless formats is pure fantasy.

    19. Re:I know the answer! by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Get yourself a portable, skipless CD player

      What? 16-bit / 44.1 kHz? Screw that. DVDs and DVD players have been forever standardized on 24-bit / 48 kHz audio, superior to CDs cruddy bit rate and depth. While I'm unaware of any artists that are releasing entire albums on DVDs, i.e. not a mixed format but purely intended for audio, I'm hanging on to my trusty old DVD player with optical outputs just in case labels get wise to this and the desireability of this kind of reproduction and start re-releasing records in 24-bit / 48 kHz on... you guessed it, the venerable DVD.

      This is a good idea... someone mod me up!

    20. Re:I know the answer! by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Great advertisement copy & paste!

      Do you have any unbiased reviews as well?

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    21. Re:I know the answer! by deimtee · · Score: 1

      You don't elect. If you have good karma you occasionally get allocated mod points. If you post in a thread you can't moderate it. If you post in a thread you have already moderated, all your allocated mod points are removed.
      If you use your points wisely (mod up good comments, down bad) you will usually get allocated more fairly quickly. If you mod badly, (good down, bad up) you will get killed in meta-mod, and usually won''t get points again for a long time.
      What you are talking about seems more like meta-moderation, where you judge how fairly other comments have been moderated. Participating in that gets you credit towards being allocated mod points.

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    22. Re:I know the answer! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      No troll. This is what I have concluded based on what has been available and Neil Young agrees with me about lossy formats.

      CDs are 44KHz and 16 bit digital audio. Further, they are usually mastered like canned crap. I really don't give a tenth of a fuck what Neil Young thinks, he whines when he sings let alone when he talks. Double blind testing has proven that the average listener cannot tell the difference between a CD and an mp3 made from that CD. If you can tell the difference, bully for you, but I suspect that if you had just used top quality VBR that you wouldn't be able to any more.

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    23. Re:I know the answer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is an old debate between digital and analog.

      The OP was simply meaning that CDs ARE a digital format and what you said was contradictory in a literal sense. The OP did not imply that they thought analog was better.

      The truth is, digital bits being put together are beyond the ability of the human ear to discern.

      Technically that isn't true. Some effects are describable beyond 44.1 kHz. Just like how the wagon wheel effect still works (but at a different speed) in 60 fps video. I don't know of anything in popular music would stand out, but I can tell the difference between static recorded at 176.4 and 44.1 kHz.

    24. Re:I know the answer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think his point was that you said screw digital music and then go on to recommend digital music.

      He was not debating the quality of a CD vs. analog or even discussing the issue.

    25. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      I corrected myself later in response to another poster.. I meant to have typed ACC

    26. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      Yeah but you get what I am referring to, because earlier I myself explained to another poster that digital was, well digital and analog was analog. "Digital music" in the sense I meant it and in the sense it's being used commonly nowadays really means "downloaded digital music" in distinction to CDs.

      So you have a point, but it displays an Asperger's-like obsession with the exact meaning of words while disregarding words as they're actually used and meant within the cultural context of the speakers and listeners. So it doesn't count.

    27. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      Come on read the thread. Grado is being praised by people here too. It's highly cynical to think that all stereophile magazine reviews are just pro-forma, praise-buckets bought and paid for by the industry

    28. Re:I know the answer! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      "Digital music" in the sense I meant it and in the sense it's being used commonly nowadays really means "downloaded digital music" in distinction to CDs.

      Why not just say what you mean, then, instead of saying something else that doesn't mean what you want it to? This isn't a Lewis Carroll poem.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    29. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      Because people use type 1 thinking to express themselves in daily intercourse

      http://www.unc.edu/courses/2010spring/psyc/433/001/tutorials/leonard.html

      and I am no different. I speak to people rapidly and fluidly, as we all do, and use words with meanings which are in turn largely derived from the common useage of people around me.

      It has to be this way or you'll end up talking about the meaning of words instead of communicating what you meant to communicate.

      Technically, what I said was wrong (but I knew the technical difference myself) , but conversationally, most people understood me as I intended to be understood and that's the whole point of communication.

      In this particular context, maybe I should have broken it out because slashdotters are more technically literate (a good thing) and sometimes more literal (a BAD thing) than the average person.

      *shurgs*.

    30. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      Err bad link to you earlier, here's another one that is much more on topic.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_process_theory

    31. Re:I know the answer! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Because people use type 1 thinking to express themselves in daily intercourse

      If I'm pissed off and know exactly what I want to say, sure. Otherwise I take a second to read and, if necessary, edit my comment. You can do that. There's even a preview function...

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    32. Re:I know the answer! by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      Ahh read the other (wiki) page I supplied for what dual theory is. IT's not about how we talk when we're pissed off or emotional.

      Most people know digital music as shorthand for downloadable digital music and use "non-digital" to refer to CDs to. That's just how it is now , as another poster pointed on in this thread.

      All done now, but it was nice discussing shit with you. Cheers!

    33. Re:I know the answer! by rot26 · · Score: 1

      What deimtee said.

      I think I get mod points depending on how busy I am at work and at home. If I have a ton to do, I will invariably get mod points on Friday afternoon, ensuring that they're wasted while I'm mowing the grass or getting dog stains out of the carpet.

      I've been on here a LONG LONG time, which probably counts for something too.

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    34. Re:I know the answer! by catmistake · · Score: 1

      I corrected myself later in response to another poster.. I meant to have typed ACC

      Excellent!

      But I had an anacdotal story in case you intended to argue... which I'm going to share with you anyway. The main point being that we don't know, necessarily, what audio source Apple is using for their iTunes ALAC selections. So it goes like this:

      There was an audio cassette duplicating company in the 1990's that claimed their audio cassettes sounded as good as CD's, and would send out samples to prove it. If you received a sample, and listened carefully, invariably you would certainly have to agree that the cassette sample did indeed sound as good as and exactly like the CD sample they sent with it. Interestingly, the CD also suffered from wow and flutter audio artifacts, so what they obviously did was make a CD from their cassette sample, ensuring that their cassette sounded just as good as the CD.

      Always, always... consider the source. This applies to information as well as audio.

      :D

  27. Sennheiser HD203 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty fond of my cheap Sennheisers. Less than $40 on Amazon, but they sound great and they're reasonably comfortable. Koss Portapros are pretty nice, too, and around the same price.

  28. Misc Findings by MogNuts · · Score: 2

    You actually are in luck. I spent like a year playing around and tinkering with all sorts of configs. What I found is that there is not a lot of information or data on this. So here is what I did find, and I welcome any different perspectives because quite frankly I can't find anything else:

    Ignore gaming headsets or anything with a mic integrated. They are universally terrible. I've tested the Creative $60 one (only good for bass--mids and highs are distorted and sound very fuzzy), the Cooler Master Storm Sirus (sounded weak, volume was waaaaay too low even at highest settings & then at the highest the sound gets distorted, and only good bass comes from the left ear but not both), the supposed well-reccomended Corsair one (which was absolutely pathetic--no bass and all sounds sounded flat and no vibrancy). So the solution is to get a good pair of true stereo headphones, which are cheap $40-80, and if you must have surround sound, pair it with a sound card that does 3D upmixing. I have an old an old Creative X-Fi (ExtremeMusic I think--drivers don't recognize it properly--I think I have a XtremeGamer but it will only install extrememusic). It's pretty bad that I use a $35 pair of Sennheiser earbuds and overall it sounds better than any of those $100+ headsets. Yes, with earbuds it lacks significant bass and it's clear but not crisp clear, but I bet you a good set of stereo cans with a dedi sound card will be phenomenal. Those earbuds I mentioned are pretty damn good for earbuds, and pretty cheap. 300% better than earbuds thrown in electronics. But then again you don't want earbuds and I agree with you. I freaking hate them. It's just that I havent' gotten around to trying the JVC Harx something or the Grado SR60. I can't think of their exact names, but supposedly they deliver clear at all levels and hearty bass. But then again that's what I read. And astroturfing is so prevalent.

    Best advice though is go to a place where you can TRY IT ON and listen to it. Seriously. Even if something is settled on, try it on before you buy it! An uncomfy headset is the absolute worst. I couldn't bare wearing that damn Creative headset because the small tight leather cups drove me mad. And an uncomfy headset will.

    1. Re:Misc Findings by MogNuts · · Score: 1

      Forgot to mention that I also say use a dedi sound card because it seems that USB just can't handle the load, at least for games and 3D upmixing. But apparently creative makes upmixing software for $20. Check it out. I don't know the quality, and it still may sound like shit, but it might be better than investing $180 in a Creative Titanium X-Fi or whatever it's called, when it sounds good enough with integrated audio.

      Also, get a dedicated USB mic. Gaming headsets are ALWAYS the worst pieces of shit ever. Yet a $20 stand-alone always sound amazing. Go figure.

      And FYI I'm sorry but I can't remember the model of those Sennheiser ear buds I have. They're only $35 on amazon but I bought them in 2009. You could search on Tomshardware for the earbud roundup back then. That's where I found out about them

    2. Re:Misc Findings by Cederic · · Score: 1

      erm. Sennheiser PC163D. Gaming headsets that remain comfortable ten hours into a session, beautiful sound quality and top notch microphones.

      I own two predecessors in the same line and a PC163D and the only reason I'm considering a new headset is to replace a standard stereo headset for a second PC163D. The two old ones have lasted me several years and still work well; it's only the 7.1 support that's had me upgrading.

      Admittedly we're not talking $50 headsets here..

  29. Klipsch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Earbuds; got a pair of Klipsch S4's for about $50AUD (~50% off), heavenly, over ear; Marshall Major for about $100, good trade off between size and sound.

  30. love $20 sonies also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i have about 10 pairs of earbuds, and if i cant find my $20 sony earbuds i got from best buy, i just wont even bother. its really more of a comfort thing with me, earbuds have been known to easily hurts my ear lobes, as quickly as 30 seconds in, but with these i can wear them all day without a problem, hope that helps ;)

  31. What electronics can you buy new 28 years later? by juventasone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Koss Porta Pro don't just look retro, they're the real deal. They've been mostly unchanged since 1984, and Amazon has sold them since 1990 (up to 1,200 reviews now). It's nice to see a company stand behind a product instead of cycling them every 6 months.

  32. Superlux HD668b by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 1

    From an audiophile with stupidly expensive headphones, DACs, and amps to power them, and no $50 cables:

    The Superlux HD668b have the most impressive bang for your buck I've ever seen. At $50 ($30-40 if you look around), they easily match other cans $200-300 in quality. They are super analytical monitors—you won't get that V-shaped response that most people find pleasing. If it happens you like that type of response (many people requesting a flat response don't actually realize how accustomed they've become to non-flat), they'll still keep up with an EQ-ed source like a champ.

    1. Re:Superlux HD668b by Prune · · Score: 2

      For that price point ($40), the Koss Porta Pro remain the kings, as another poster pointed out. I'm saying this as someone that's auditioned everything from the shittiest do-it-yourself headphones I made to $5K electrostatic headphones.

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  33. Asymmetric cord by MicroSlut · · Score: 1

    Every time I go to get a pair of headphones they that damn asymmetric cord as if everyone has their mp3 player in the left back pocket and needs the left side of the cord shorter. Sorry but this really bothers me and no one is mentioning it.

    1. Re:Asymmetric cord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love asymmetric cords. Phone goes in front pockets, the longer right side is so it can go around the back of your neck.
      That way, when I'm not listening, I can just drop them out of my ears and they just hang there.

  34. Sennheisers rock. by Anaerin · · Score: 1

    If it's audio quality you want, grab the HD650's. But they are open-back, so no isolation whatsoever. If you want/need isolation, go for the HD280 Pros. They're comfortable enough to wear all day and have massive amounts of noise cancelling without any electronics whatsoever.

    1. Re:Sennheisers rock. by Prune · · Score: 1

      Yes, Sennheiser are the best in the mid-price range (sub-$1K), but the OP was asking about $50 headphones, not $500.

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    2. Re:Sennheisers rock. by aclarke · · Score: 1

      You can get a set of Sennheiser HD280 Pros on Amazon for about $100. Granted, that's twice what the submitter wants to pay, but in every other way they're exactly what he's looking for. He wants noise-isolating headphones with a flat, linear response, long-term comfort and durability. That pretty much defines the Sennheiser HD280 Pros.

      I've had a set of HD280s for 8 years now. Granted, they're falling apart, but they still sound as good as they did when they were new, and they've been with me over several trans- and cross-continental trips. I'm not really aware of what's on the market now, but the HD280s have proven themselves over the years to be a very smart buy. I'm not sure a cheaper pair would have held up as well, which in the long term brings down the Sennheisers' effective cost.

    3. Re:Sennheisers rock. by Sxooter · · Score: 1

      Actually HD280s go on sale for $65 or so all the time on NewEgg and go for $100 almost everywhere, like Amazon etc.

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  35. You get what you pay for. by IcerLeaf · · Score: 1

    I am a happy owner of Sennheiser's PX 200 IIi. There is a less expensive version which doesn't have the microphone and iPod/iPhone controls in the cord. They are over the ear, not around, but the seal is still good enough that ambient noise is at least subdued. I can use them on flights without going up to full volume. I had to go this direction because every headphone with noise cancellation gave me motion sickness. You'll probably pay more than $50, but you get what you pay for.

  36. I'm using them right now by Skapare · · Score: 1

    I'm streaming from Magnatune to my Bose QC 15 right now.

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  37. In-the-ear sucks (for people with hyperacusis)! by macraig · · Score: 1

    I bought a nice pair of AKG earbuds a couple years ago. AKG has a reputation for quality, and many years before I'd bought a Realistic-branded set of AKG circumaural headphones that were awesome. Alas I couldn't enjoy them any more because they caused me physical pain, from pressure and bruising of cartilage, because my ears had grown too large (ears keep growing)... or something. I'd bought several other circumaural brands, thinking I could find one that didn't hurt, but they ALL caused pain after perhaps a half hour. So in desperation I bought the earbuds.

    They had really great sound, excellent response, but I couldn't use them: any jaw or body movement, or vibration or movement of the attached cords, was strongly audible. This vibrational noise(?) was so strong it made enjoyment of the intended audio impossible. I seem to have the symptoms of what is called hyperacusis, so perhaps that extra sensitivity is the cause for me. Do earbuds cause the same problem for most other people? I haven't seen widespread complaints, and their wild popularity seems to suggest otherwise.

    My last sonic line of defense has been the discovery of a Philips-branded earphone that isn't an earbud but rather hooks loosely over the outside of the ear and rests just "at" the ear canal, rather than inside it. They're not the greatest audio quality, BUT they cause me no physical pain at all and so can be worn for extended periods without the conscious distraction of pain. I have two sets now, and will probably wind up buying more as backups just in case Philips decides to stop production.

    Anyone need a barely used set of AKG earbuds...?

    1. Re:In-the-ear sucks (for people with hyperacusis)! by darkfeline · · Score: 1

      Amplification of vibrations is common to IEMs. You can prevent/reduce it either by not listening to music while walking/moving, or "grounding" it by clipping the wire to your shirt, gripping between your fingers, or wrapping over/behind your ears.

    2. Re:In-the-ear sucks (for people with hyperacusis)! by Change · · Score: 1

      I have a pair of Koss headphones that are just like you describe, I'm a big fan of them. They are quite comfortable and sound pretty good too. http://www.headphone.com/headphones/koss-ksc-75.php

    3. Re:In-the-ear sucks (for people with hyperacusis)! by macraig · · Score: 1

      Those Koss are actually quite different: diaphragm size. The Philips ones - okay, looking for a model number finally - model SHS3200 have a much smaller earbud-class diaphragm. I might find a larger "earhook" style like yours comfortable, but I'm very wary they'd hurt as much as regular cans.

    4. Re:In-the-ear sucks (for people with hyperacusis)! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you can save the money look at the AKG headphones that actually go completely over the ear, they dont press on the ear at all and dont cause the pain you describe due to distortion and pressure on the cartilage of the ear.

      i had some AKG-401 that were heaven. they are basically a AKG-601 or 701 that has failed the very highest quality tests and is sold as a lower tolerance product.

      they no longer make them, and instead only sell the 701, the newer 702 remake, or 601 's i believe. these are not cheap but you will be very happy.

    5. Re:In-the-ear sucks (for people with hyperacusis)! by macraig · · Score: 1

      I did some rummaging and refreshed my memory: the Realistics I have are AKG K250 cans. Perhaps I can refurb the cushions. They didn't cause trouble when I first bought them, so the pain is caused now by (a) dilapidated cushions and/or (b) my ears continuing to grow and just getting too Dumbo-like to fit. It's probably (b), because all the other circumaural set I've bought were painful right from the start. *sigh* I guess I need to train myself to be able to flap these suckers so I can get some practical benefit from them.

    6. Re:In-the-ear sucks (for people with hyperacusis)! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my ears continuing to grow and just getting too Dumbo-like to fit... I guess I need to train myself to be able to flap these suckers so I can get some practical benefit from them.

      I have a magic feather that I'm willing to sell for less than the price of a high end set of headphones.

  38. Re:What electronics can you buy new 28 years later by juventasone · · Score: 1

    Since Amazon was established in 1994, the 1990 date obviously means something else...

  39. UrbanEars Medis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amazing and just a bit above the price point, $42. They sound fantastic and have a built-in mic in the cable for smart phones.

    http://www.amazon.com/UrbanEars-Medis-Headphones-Black-Size/dp/B00359FQLG/

  40. Sennheiser has some great budget headphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have use a pair of Sennheiser HD 202's for the past 3 or 4 years and they have been totally worth the $40 I paid for them. The response is relatively flat, it blocks out a good amount of noise, sounds sharp, even at high volumes, are comfortable, and apparently last forever. These have a super long (10 feet i think) cord which I usually keep wrapped up, but occasionally it comes in handy. Here is the Newegg page for it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106455

    But really any of the sub $100 Sennheiser's will fit your request.

    1. Re:Sennheiser has some great budget headphones by WillKemp · · Score: 1

      Yeah, i reckon go for Sennheiser. I've got a pair of HD215s which are great. They have good sound and good isolation and parts are easily replaceable (i.e., pads, cable). You won't get them for $50 i don't think, but it may be worth saving up a bit and spending more than $50 if you can.

  41. VMODA ear buds take the most ABUSE by batray · · Score: 1

    I am hard on gear. I use an Otterbox case for my iPhone, if I did not I would have destoyed it long ago.

    VMODA headphones are great sounding, but not the absolute best. What makes them the best ear buds is the quality of the wiring and the offset plug on the cable that makes them last far longer than other brands.

    I have had other high end earphones that died within a few weeks to months becasue the wire broke internally. The offset plug on the vmoda headphones prevents the majority of severe strains on the wire when you bump the phone with the headphones plugged into an object. The wire breaking internally at the plug is where all of my non VMODA headphones have died. My VMODA ear buds far outlast any other brand I have tried including Sennheiser, Bose, and Shure.

    1. Re:VMODA ear buds take the most ABUSE by treeves · · Score: 1

      I got a pair of those at Costco and haven't used them a lot, and the plug end is already suffering from a bad connection in the wiring, exactly opposing your anecdote...

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  42. read my comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    below $50 some $5 panasonics would be nice.

    above $50 ... grado hp2 are the most amazing pair i've ever listened to. smoothest sound ever.

    it's not the headphones entirely, consider what you are driving them with too!

  43. Kicker HP541 ($50) by DarkLegacy · · Score: 1

    I've wasted something like $300, testing out sub-$60 headphones, and I have found absolutely nothing matching the quality of the Kicker HP541s. I'm not a fancy audiophile, I won't draw line graphs for you with frequency response, because that's all tripe anyway (most adult humans can't hear over 18 KHz), but I will tell you that they are the best pair of cans you can get for anything less than $100.

    The bass is phenomenal at high volumes (Kicker, heh), the sound is very crisp and flat, the earcups are made of genuine leather, they also spin 180 degrees to sit outwards, so if you have a portable amplifier like the Fiio, and I think this is the best test - you can raise the volume enough that they become actual speakers sitting on your neck, and they DON'T DISTORT or crack! Also, make sure your media library is FLAC, or at least 256 kbps MP3. You will hear the artifacts in your music with any bit-rate anything less than that.

    For a cheaper alternative, without the $400-pair-of-headphones feel like the Kickers have, I'd recommend the Sennheiser 202's, which are in the $20-$30 range.

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    1. Re:Kicker HP541 ($50) by macraig · · Score: 1

      The Kicker HP541 seems to be identical to the $23 Monoprice 8323. It looks to be a re-brand, but that's a huge price drop.

    2. Re:Kicker HP541 ($50) by DarkLegacy · · Score: 1

      Oh holy hell. I didn't even know!!

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    3. Re:Kicker HP541 ($50) by macraig · · Score: 1

      I have some Realistic branded cans from the early 90s that were (are) actually a fairly legendary AKG model rebranded. It must be pretty common. Maybe in some instances there's differences in materials used, but in the Realistic case AFAIK they're identical aside from the aluminum badge on the cups.

  44. Grado Labs SR60i by caljorden · · Score: 1

    I have the Grado Labs SR60i, and they cost about $79, but they sure sound great. Check them out at http://www.gradolabs.com/page_headphones.php?item=f4ba8830232696b5f580bd531134b668

    I purchased them online from http://goodcans.com/HeadphoneStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=83&zenid=16a9581e498c2dc5bd2481384bd45a74

    They are especially known for their flat frequency response, and allowing you to hear what other headphones can not reproduce. In my experience, this has been the case. They are incredibly well-built, for the price. The cable for them is very flexible, but also rather thick. I am very happy with them.

    1. Re:Grado Labs SR60i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alessandro Series are nice too. Basically slightly modified Grado for much cheaper.

    2. Re:Grado Labs SR60i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i own sr325i. they make great headphones but they are for silent listening environments due to their open air nature. the best grados ive ever experienced were hp2 driven by an apogee duet. amazing sound!

    3. Re:Grado Labs SR60i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as in the OP wants noise isolation - unless the room is near totally silent you will be adjusting volume on grados to very dangerous levels. grados are known for being fatiguing to some ppl at even safe volumes.

    4. Re:Grado Labs SR60i by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      I used to have a pair of Grado SR60 and Grado SR80 headphones and I loved them both, especially the SR80. But after about 15 years of heavy use, both of them finally wore out, so I was forced to buy a new pair. I was disappointed to find the SR60 and SR80 are no longer available having been replaced by the newer SR60i and SR80i. So I bought a pair of the SR80i, hoping they would be as good as the old SR80.

      Never in my life have I been more disappointed by a purchase. Not only do they not sound as good as the SR80, but they are some of the worst sounding headphones I have ever tried. Gone are the rich midrange and awesome bass, and there is a really nasty resonance at the high end, which gives the music an unpleasant "snarly" quality. (This was especially disappointing as the SR60/80 were known for their remarkably flat frequency response.) These headphones quite literally give me a headache every time I try to use them: I just can't seem to get the volume right. When the volume is too low, the music sounds lifeless and hollow, when the volume higher, the treble screams in my ear, quite literally giving me a pounding headache that lasts well into the next day. This is really sad, as the Grado SR80 used to be by far my favorite headphones. I'm now looking for new headphones, and I'll never buy anything from Grado ever again.

      So, are there any recommendations for headphones that sound like the old Grado SR80's?

      To be fair, I've not heard the SR60i, but if it's anything like the SR80i, avoid it like the plague.

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    5. Re:Grado Labs SR60i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can still find original sr80 new on ebay for under $100. if you like older grado consider finding stuff made my joe grado - but these are rare and expensive. what are you driving your headphones with anyway?

    6. Re:Grado Labs SR60i by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      what are you driving your headphones with anyway?

      A variety of things. I have a HeadRoom headphone amp that I typically use with portable devices. My SR80 headphones sounded great with all of them (obviously better with better equipment, but still beat any other headphones I tried), and my SR80i's sound terrible with anything I've plugged them into.

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  45. Skullcandy by Empiric · · Score: 1

    I have several... many... sets of Skullcandy earbuds. Though I've experienced uncomfortable earbuds before, that isn't the case at all for me with these. The only contact with your ear is a very soft, squishy "mushroom" of silicone/rubber. I can't imagine any over-ear headphones that would be more comfortable, personally.

    And, the bass and noise isolation is excellent. Their "base models" are cheap, with little discernable quality compromise from their higher-end. At the price, I'd suggest trying one--they may challenge your preconceptions of what you are looking for.

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    1. Re:Skullcandy by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If they actually use silicone then that's a very good reason to buy them. I have some antique Sennheisers (HD420s) and I had to find some almost-compatible foams and cut them down. If I should ever need a cord or a driver, I'll probably have to buy a whole set off eBay. Hmm, here's some in romania ending in about a day going for $15. They're open though, so if someone wants isolation they're not the thing. In fact, they're very open, which is something I like about them. Looks like someone in minnesota has a cord for thirty bucks, gonna have to let that go. I already replaced the miniplug...

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  46. $9.99 sony @ target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've spent a good deal of money on headphones. I've been using noise cancelling earbuds since probably 1996 (Koss plugs were really the only thing back then). I used them at the time as ear plugs and to listen to NPR while commuting on my motorcycle. Now I use them for NPR podcasts and audiobooks while on any variety of two wheeled transports..bicycle more these days. I've bought the high end variety (bose, koss, etc upward of $100 or more per) as well as the low end variety ( $10). They all fail at about the same rate and my ears aren't sensitive enough to tell any "significant" difference (they higher end ones certainly sound better, but the failure rate is just as bad..and it's not THAT much better).

    I've found I get the most mileage out of Sony earbuds which are $9.99 @ target (that's the only place I can find them consistently). The ones with the 90 degree 1/8th inch plug. The straight plugs fail in less than a week for me. The 90 degree plugs last at least a month and sometimes up to 6 months (though that's rare). It matters not how much I pay for them, that's the consistent failure rate, so why would I pay more that 10 bucks?

  47. Sennheiser HD 280 PROs by MarkRose · · Score: 1

    While the Sennheiser HD 280 PROs are about double the asked for price range, I think they're worth every penny. They're good for about 30 db of noise cancellation, have an excellent and balanced response across the audio spectrum, and stellar audio reproduction. I've had mine nearly three years now, and I use them about 20 hours per week (about 3000 hours of usage so far). I still absolutely love them, and if I ever needed to replace them, I would get the same model in a heartbeat.

    Considering my cost per hour usage is about $0.04 and dropping, and the headphone will easily last 10,000 hours, spending a little extra money is absolutely worth it in my opinion to get some totally amazing ear cans. I've heard several people say they like them better than the $500 headphones they've tried, so they're also a bargain in any sense. You would not be disappointed!

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    1. Re:Sennheiser HD 280 PROs by Tobenisstinky · · Score: 1

      Another vote for the Sennheiser HD280's. Best headphones I've ever owned.

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    2. Re:Sennheiser HD 280 PROs by countach74 · · Score: 1

      I third this. They aren't extremely clear in the high mids (I think they are actually scooped a bit), but the 32 dB isolation is fantastic. Yes, they're double the price, but they're worth every penny.

    3. Re:Sennheiser HD 280 PROs by praedictus · · Score: 1

      I too will vouch for the Senneiser HD280Pro. I bought these to replace a pair of Sony Studio Reference phones my kids got a hold of and destroyed. Isolation is good, Ive used them with my cellphone on many flights (where permitted) and long bus rides, and they block a good portion of the turbines/road noise/screaming babies while delivering pretty decent sound quality.

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    4. Re:Sennheiser HD 280 PROs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same; I love them. But, I've somehow managed to destroy a driver on /two/ of them(and yes, I'm sure it's the driver - I tried to repair it myself) in as many years.
      Microphone wise, well, I'm a machinist, so I just built a little boom/hinge, JBKwik'd it to the back side of the left ear(a 1" square fits quite nicely against it), and mounted a cheap $0.99 Ebay microphone on that with a second cable back to my computer. It works extremely well, for some odd reason; those $0.99 microphones are the best microphone I've come across; far better than all the headsets I've tried... Though some of it could be the noise-removing capabilities of my Audigy 2 ZS...

    5. Re:Sennheiser HD 280 PROs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had my HD 280 PROs for 10 years now, use them for at least 2 hours per day at work (for noise insulation), and 4 hours/week for audiophile listening, and they are still the best closed cans I've heard, as far as price/performance ratio, which is stellar. I would not trade them for those marketing-driven consumer brands like Bose or beats even if I got those for free. (Their dynamic depth, or resolution, or whatever you want to call it are severely lacking!) If you look out for sales you may occasionally get a set of HD 280s around $80 or even less (newegg.com). I paid close to $200 for them 10 years ago and would likely spend the same again. In fact, I'm planning to buy another pair for home office use. Unlike most electronics companies these days Sennheiser actually carries spare parts, and they're selling those online and direct at incredibly reasonable prices. (Pads, cables, etc.) Note: Like any good speaker they need at least 30 hours to break in.

  48. Re:You sound like you want some cheap DJ headphone by Prune · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I used primarily the HD-580 for about seven years, until I switched to Stax electrostatic headphones (Omega 3, that cost about $5000). The 580 were around $250 when I bought them new on eBay and one could probably find them now for $200. Over this time period I auditioned several dozen headphones (I don't have speakers as I move frequently) and in the under $250 range there's nothing that compares. It's a sort of a sweet spot. Anything above that price point is an incremental improvement; most things below are a significant degradation. Even the $5K Stax are not that greatly better (but hey, felt good to buy myself a little present, and it was an excuse to build a high voltage hybrid solid state/tube headphone amp instead of plunking another $5K after one... http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/bluehawaii_moda1.png )

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  49. I got a logitech with a boom mic by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 1

    I went to target, 20$, it is great for playing video games with friends and chatting on Team Speak.

    My previous headset was the overly hardware laden Microsoft Sidewinder from late 90s or early 2000s, and I had it to play Warcraft3 with friends. Voice chat is invaluable for RTS. Our team was the best in the world at the time 200wins 1loss(from my teammates screwing around).

  50. Zune HD earbuds by kriston · · Score: 1

    The earbuds that came with the Zune HD were and still are the best padded earbuds I've ever owned. The second best were the earbuds that came with XM MyFi portable satellite radio.

    Despite searching for years I have never found the OEM for these two models of earbuds. I recently found a few new/old stock Zune HD earbuds to replace my old pair and to keep me going until I find something comparable.

    I don't prefer the sound isolation "ear canal" headphones because it messes with the pressure in my ears and the cables cause noise when brushing against anything.

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    Kriston

  51. I'll take the Sony ones by andyring · · Score: 1

    http://tinyurl.com/6ujmge3

    I have one of these which I bought about 10 years ago. Back then I think I paid $150, but anyway, they are comfortable, do a very good job of cutting out external sound, and the frequency response is wonderful. Deep but not overpowering bass, all the way up to clear, crisp highs.

    I bought them as I was the sound technician for my large church's praise band. Even worshipping in a large, acoustically horrible gym, with these headphones on it was wonderful to hear just the band (or individual instruments depending on how I configured our sound board) regardless of other noise, kids crying, etc.

    And oh, can they handle it. 3 watts of power, which is insane for headphones. Playing around with them and our sound board, I could get them past 120dB according to my sound meter, and they just refused to distort at all.

  52. Koss by Nugoo · · Score: 1

    I don't actually know much about headphones, but Koss has a fairly wide variety of them at different price points, and, most importantly, all of them have a lifetime warranty.

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  53. JVC HA-RX700 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A few months ago, at the recommendation of some of the Head-Fi guys, I got a ~$30 pair of over-the-ear JVC HA-RX700's from Amazon, and they have been fantastic. Very comfortable, decent noise isolation, and they sound fantastic. A bit heavy on the bass to some (although not to me) -- if you think so, you could correct it quickly via equalizer. They have stood up to being stuffed in a backpack and biked all over town almost every day so far, without any sign of wear. They look stupid (because they are huge), but who cares?

    1. Re:JVC HA-RX700 by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      Much agreed. Those are huge, but great sounding and comfortable to boot. The $30 price tag is a steal; they are comparable to headsets costing 5 times that much.

  54. The ultimate review spreadsheet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Head-fi.org is the ultimate resource for this.

    Here is the super awesome mega thread that reviewed 240+ IEM's by various qualities:

    http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-242-iems-compared-vsonic-gr99-gr02-bass-edition-added-06-11-12

    The spreadsheet link is a bit buried, but can be found here:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?fdf0dse1tgqyetb

    A few good low-priced ones I've owned:
    JVC Marshmallow - $12 - pretty decent for a cheap earbud. I just picked up a spare pair for $6 off cowboom.com
    MeElectronics M9 - $10-$18 depending on sale - great seal and bass. Mids are a bit weak and they are a little fatiguing though.

    1. Re:The ultimate review spreadsheet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just noticed that you're also possibly looking for headphones.

      Here are the headphones I've listened to:

      Grado SR60: ~ $60-$70 - great for acoustic and highs. open design. limited bass, some find them harsh. If you like acoustic guitar or piano, you'll like these headphones.
      (SR80, 125, 225, 325 are similar - just more refined. I loved the sound of the 325's, but not sure I'd pay for the difference)

      Audiotechnica ATH-M50 ~ $120 - closed design, very bass heavy and boomy. lots of people love these, but I find the closed design sounds too stuffy. Very sharp highs. These are best for electronics music, IMO.

      Koss KCS75 ~ $15 - very weird looking, but pretty nice sounding headphone style clips.

      Sennheiser PX-100 ~ $40 - amazing comfy little headphones for the money with lots of punch. Highly recommend.
      Sennheiser 201 - $20 - total garbage IMO
      Sennheiser HD448 ~ $100 - actually really liked these, but they weren't very comfortable to me.
      Sennheiser HD555 ~ $100 - very comfortable, clean sound. quite neutral. boring like most sennheisers imo
      Sennheiser HD595, HD600, etc.... same comments as above - comfy and clean, but just kinda boring

      AKG K 701 (or 702) - my favorite headphones that I've listened to (and I listend to the $1500 sennheiser 800's). Great soundstage, clean sound. You might not love them if you want monster bass though.
      AKG K 601 - the cheaper version of the 701. Was hoping these would be a nice value headphone, but they sounded SO tinny that I could never buy them after hearing how much better the 701/702 was.

      If your budget is only $50, and I was forced to pick a pair, I'd say to try either the Sennheiser PX-100's for $40ish (or cheaper on sale), or up your budget just a little and go with the newer Grado SR60i.

      You'll also want to consider if you need noise isolation (are you going to use these on a metro/plane/train? If so, earbuds would probably be best). Doe you care if others hear what you're listening to? Then open headphones won't fly (grado, most good sennheisers, etc)

  55. Engadget... by xded · · Score: 1, Informative

    Seriously? Is this the kind of deeply technical questions that the diversified and experienced /. community is supposed to answer? Is this becoming Yahoo Answers?

    And to the poster (because the first paragraph was to the editors), just take some time to type something into google and head over to:

    • ilounge
    • engadget:
      http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/26/ask-engadget-best-over-the-ear-headphones/
      http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/04/ask-engadget-best-passive-noise-cancelling-headphones/
      http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/31/ask-engadget-best-usb-headset-for-skype-calls-and-podcasting/
      http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/11/ask-engadget-best-non-gaming-wireless-headphones/
      http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/ask-engadget-best-non-ugly-noise-cancelling-bluetooth-headset/
      http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/01/ask-engadget-best-earbuds-for-outdoor-fitness-use/
    • any audio forum

    At least you will get more detailed answers and consistent comparisons. And I won't have to do the google typing for you.

    1. Re:Engadget... by Prune · · Score: 0

      Troll much? I've been here a good deal longer than you, and this type of question is nothing new to slashdot.

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    2. Re:Engadget... by alexbgreat · · Score: 0
      The explanation you seek was in the my original submission:

      Given that the users of Slashdot are by far some of the best-qualified most discerning opinion-givers I've ever seen, what do YOU think is the best set of head-mounted loudspeakers for the money, with a cost of less than $50?

      I asked Slashdot, because Slashdot is one of the few places I've found that has an active community that obviously understands my particular...eccentricities. I don't want consistent comparisons, nor do I need a forum full of buzzwords and fanboys to sort through. I wanted the opinions of THIS diversified and experienced community, and that's precisely what I got.

      At risk of my tiny bit of karma, thank you for completely avoiding my original question. /Sarcasm

    3. Re:Engadget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So wait a minute, you Googled 'something' and you came up with 10 links to the same site? Are you sure you know how to use it?

    4. Re:Engadget... by needsomemoola · · Score: 1

      "And I won't have to do the google typing for you."

      That's what http://lmgtfy.com/ is for. :)

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  56. you better stop watching movies & music too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cuz sony has it's hands in lots of movie studios
    and productions of other movies not directly associated.

    and music, they own many major labels.

    in fact, you better stop watching football or hockey or soccer too, cuz a lot of those franchises use sony equipment
    or have sony tie-ins in some way or another.

    in fact, the only way to avoid it totally is to sit at home, tv and computer unplugged, no radio, and just sit there and rot. til you die.

    1. Re:you better stop watching movies & music too by Nursie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So we shouldn't even try, right?

      Just sit back, drop another Xanax and keep blindly handing money to the people that are actively trying to screw us because, hey, it's unavaoidable, right?

      You can take it that I disagree with your view of things.

    2. Re:you better stop watching movies & music too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know that even their AA/AAA battery rechargers are DRM'd right? You can only use Sony batteries on them.

  57. Get to your local close-out store. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big Lot's, Ross, Marshall's, Ollie's.

    Buy something from them. Seriously, I've gotten 80-120 dollar headphones for 20 bucks.

  58. Shure SRH 440 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got mine for $78.00 from Amazon.

  59. From experience by assemblerex · · Score: 1

    Under 60, Sennheiser px100-ii.

  60. The best ones by stanlyb · · Score: 0

    http://www.amazon.com/3M-Peltor-Optime-H10A-Earmuff/dp/B00009LI4K/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339556671&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=sound+muffle+head+phones
    It cancel all the sounds, it makes you feel GOOOD. It lets you work without any distraction....Simply the best.
    LOL, if have not yet catch my joke, let me give you one free advice. Only "idiots" would wear such a nasty brain killing machine as a Head-phones, it is not only the sound (do you really know what sound is???), but also the specific and nasty field spread out of this head phones is good enough to fry anything and everything in a mother of just two three years constant use. Or five years accidentally use. Take my advice, by a decent HiFi system, and live happy.

    1. Re:The best ones by Prune · · Score: 2

      Are you on drugs? Audio frequency EM waves have zero biological effect. Zero. Not to mention the power lines in your house emit a shitload more of audio frequency (60 Hz) EM waves due to the far larger current that runs through them vs headphone coils and more than makes up for the increased distance between you and a wall.

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      "Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
  61. Look at the frequency response by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    if its not listed move on, cause its crap

    generally I like it when its low end is below 20Hz and its high end is above 20Khz, I have a pair of sony's that my wife bought me, maybe 20 bucks thats 18Hz and 21Hz and they still sound a bit muddy (yes I am a bit of a snob), but they are well balanced over the frequency range and for 20 dollar or so headphones are quite adequate for my snotty taste, probably sounding pretty good to your average person.

    The above opinion has also been echoed by quite a few studio musicians, pretty darn good, and when they break them shuffling gear from studio to stage no big whoop, though they dont have a mic (sony MDR-V150). But the point remains, look at the driver specs, go low, go high, something like 50,15K is going to sound like a brass horn and nothing else. If they do not list frequency response then just move on, they will be nothing but ear damaging crap.

    2 cents

    1. Re:Look at the frequency response by Prune · · Score: 1

      Frequency response is a graph, not a pair of numbers. The numbers tell you absolutely nothing about how flat or distorted it is, and that's critical. A good retailer of headphones such as headphone.com will have both frequency response graphs and harmonic distortion graphs, which you can use to directly compare different brands/models. Summary statistics are not useful given that the ear is highly nonlinear and masks some distortions while it is much more sensitive to others.

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    2. Re:Look at the frequency response by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      ya but if you go to best buy or some crap the best you hope to see is EXTRA BASS BOOST (60Hz Response)

  62. Sennheiser/Soundmagic by tanveer1979 · · Score: 1

    Whats the driver?
    If its your PC/Laptop. over the ear "HEADPHONES" will do.
    Sennhieser RS110 or similar(HD series) all have excellent quality. Truly amazing.

    However, if its your tiny mp3 player, in ear is the only way to go
    I use a Soundmagic PL-21 which cost 20$, and are excellent. With your budget, you can get sennhieser or Klipsch image S4 etc.,
    Again, I have listened, and they sound better than the soundmagic.

    That said, my budget was $25(for creative nano), and PL-21 came out to be the best

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    1. Re:Sennheiser/Soundmagic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seconded, I just bought a pair of refurbished Klipsch image S4 's on amazon for $30 They are hands down the best headphones I've ever owned or listened to. It took a couple days to figure out the fit, and I had to break them in first but the sound is AMAZING.

  63. Cheap headphones are good enough for me... by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

    In general, I've never really found that expensive headphones are worth it due to their tendency to break. Myself I'm using a cheap pair of Phillips in-ear headphones, I don't think they cost more than $15, fit pretty comfortable for long terms and have decent enough sound quality, at least for me. Of course, I'm not much of an audiophile and mostly use my headphones for listening to music in bed, throwing them in my pocket and using them with my laptop/phone while in a car (passenger of course), listening to music at a coffee shop and occasionally when walking.

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    1. Re:Cheap headphones are good enough for me... by Prune · · Score: 1

      I used and abused a pair of Sennheiser HD-580 for seven or eight years before I upgraded to electrostatics and they were $250 when new. They were certainly more sturdy than most of the previous sub-$100 headphones I had.

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      "Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
  64. Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Open-air by csumpi · · Score: 1

    These are out of your price range (~$100), but these are the most comfortable headphones. No torture of the ears, no sweating, and awesome sound.

    Oh, and they are purple.

    1. Re:Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Open-air by Drgnlncr · · Score: 1

      There's also the AD300, which is just as comfortable and just in the price range. I have no idea about how good they sound though, and they aren't purple.

    2. Re:Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Open-air by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. Not only do they have no low end to speak of, they are approximately the size and comfort of two VW Microbuses strapped to the sides of your head, and have about as much social appeal. It has been theorized that the mere act of plugging them in creates a distortion in space-time resulting in one of your far future relatives receiving a swirly in whatever passes for a toilet in that day and age.

      (TL;DR: I did not care for them.)

    3. Re:Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Open-air by Khith · · Score: 1

      I've had these headphones for about a year and a half now.

      They're extremely comfortable and I can wear them for hours without trouble. They've got little 'wing' flaps that rest on your head which sounds odd but makes them fit very well. (If they still seem a bit loose if you have a smaller head, use a rubber band to help push the wings down against your head.)

      They have almost no sound isolation, though. They're open-air, which means you can still hear everything around you, and people near you can hear what you're listening to. What's good about open-air is that it brings a huge soundstage, and this model has one of the biggest and best I've heard.

      These headphones are excellent if you're a gamer, since you can hear things like gunshots, footsteps, etc and can easily tell where someone is by sound alone. The 3D positional audio with these is just amazing.

      Bass is a little weak, but this can always be corrected with an equalizer if you really want. I find that they have enough bass to keep me happy, as I'm not one of those people who wants to be thumped by the music I'm listening to.

      These headphones are LARGE. Don't expect to run or travel with these. You WILL look silly wearing them. There's a metal mesh on the outside of each ear that's purple, but it's not a strong horrid color. The wings rest on your head, and instead of a traditional headband there are two stiff rubber-coated metal(?) tubes that arc over the head. These will be sticking up about an inch or two from your head. Despite all this, I still love them.

      Sadly I think that they would be inappropriate for the thread author because of the lack of noise isolation. That, and they can be bought for around $100. (at least I got mine for that much) which is double the price that was being requested.

      I didn't mean to turn this into a headphone review, but do check out reviews especially if you are into gaming (my primary purpose for them, though they sound great with music and movies as well) and want some quality headphones with a large, expansive space to the sound. You'll find tons of reviews for them on Amazon, various audio sites, and even some gaming sites.

  65. Etymotic HF series by futuresheep · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Get Ety HF series that work with phone OS you use. I bought a set of the HF2's for my Droid and love them. They're crisp and clear, without the artificial overpowering bass that most earbuds on the market have. The sound seperation is excellent as well. I have a set of Audio Technica NC cans, which are nice headphones, but I highly prefer the sound of the Ety's over those.

    On top of that, the sound isolation is excellent and I find them to be some of the most comfortable in canal phones I've used. Plus, for and additional $100.00 you can get fitted for custom buds that are molded for your ear canal.

    Amazon carries them for $120.00 or so. Well worth it.

    1. Re:Etymotic HF series by Prune · · Score: 1

      The HF are OK, but their original quality earbuds, the ER-4s, remain their best product with the lowest distortion. I think Etymotic just wanted to add new products for the sake of adding new products while riding the expanding mobile audio bandwagon.

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    2. Re:Etymotic HF series by russ.anderson · · Score: 1

      I emphatically vouch for the Custom Fit service that goes with the Etymotics - http://www.etymotic.com/customfit/index.html - The comfort is staggeringly good and the sound isolation is great. You can happily go running without ever worrying about them getting sweaty and falling out. I've had two sets of HF3s and you just re-use the custom molds. The only criticism I could level at them is that after 2 years of heavy use they tend to pick up a slightly yellow hue from earwax that I just can't seem to shift no matter how hard I try to clean them.

    3. Re:Etymotic HF series by futuresheep · · Score: 1

      Yes, the ER-4's are better, but they're also $300.00.

      Mobile is nice for those of us that use our cells to listen to music. I take calls using my headphones, the Etymotic HF headphones do a great job with this.

  66. Monster Turbines - Refurb to 100% factory for $49 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know Monster gets a bad wrap for being overpriced regarding their cables and often other products, BUT, if you buy through their outlet store via their main website you can land a wicked deal. I bought Monster Turbines for $49.95 and they came 100% perfect with a genuine leather pouch and 6 different sets of ear tips. There will be no fancy package - just a box. Once properly burned in (for a few days straight, music looped) you will hear the most amazing in-ear speakers you have ever heard. The triple flange eartips block out outside sound almost to a dangerous level. Seriously, if you're not paying attention, you will walk into a car or a c-train (light rail transit). Right now, they are sold out of the Turbines (which sucks at the moment), but they have Jamz for $39.95 and Lil' Jamz for $29.95. I am not kidding, try these earphones. For the refurb price, they are a deal. I would not pay $179.95 for them retail, but I would (and have) bought several pairs for gifts.

    http://www.monstercable.com/outletstore/linelist.asp
    Or if you want to do it manually: http://www.monstercable.com/ and then browse to WHERE TO BUY > click on 60% off banner at the bottom of the page > browse away...buy, profit!!!

  67. JVC HA RX300 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.amazon.com/JVC-HARX300-Full-Size-Headphones-Black/dp/B000NUYW92

    I've been using these for the last few years now and love them. Good all around sound (better than my Bose 2 speaker desk set) and great range. It also has a fairly lengthy cord, so it can be used with TV's if you need.

    Keep in mind that I'm not an audiophile or anything.

    Best thing about them is you can usually find them for around 20 bucks.

  68. Low Cost Sennheisers by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 1

    http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-202-Professional-Headphones/dp/B003LPTAYI/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1339557323&sr=1-2

    These are the ones I bought a while back because I heard good things about the company itself (and my hearing is so shot, I don't think a pair of $500 headphones will do me much good.) Someone also gave me some Skullcandy G.I. over the ear headphones (they look horrid, but they are comfortable and sound great, with the "one cord", it doesn't tangle quite as much...) I did notice the mix of the latest Candlemass CD sounded a bit better to me on the Skullcandy phones, but that's personal preference (and you can gather from my taste in music why my hearing's shot to hell.)

    http://www.amazon.com/Skullcandy-G-I-Micd-11-Headphones/dp/B0044U5FHK/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1339557489&sr=1-7&keywords=skullcandy+g.i.+over+ear+headphones

    I didn't pay for these, so I figure they're great because well, they were free. :) But they sound pretty good. Both headsets are comfortable for long listening sessions. I'd give the edge to the Sennheiser ones.

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  69. DBI Pro-700 by tramusen · · Score: 1

    You can find them used on eBay. They sound good, they can be had for well under $50, and they are built to take some serious abuse - these are made for music listening kiosks. If you need a good set of beater headphones, or even just a cheap set of cans, look no further.

  70. Over price point but... Turtle Beach PX5. A++ Cans by CaptnCrud · · Score: 0

    Love these headphones, wirless, bluetooth, great sound depth, comfortable, batteries last about 8 hours. These headphones replaced my pc speakers, my tv speakers and my phone buds all in one nice package. I think they where about $200 bucks but well worth it. Great support from turtle beach as well. You can buy all head phone components...like, er, If your dog eats the microphone sock. Ordered replacement for 2 bucks, recieved in 2 days. Never going to another brand till I have a reason. I think the sound is comperarable to my friends bows, but his are much better for noise cancelling.

  71. Altec Lansing by trum4n · · Score: 1

    Muzx XY earbuds are absolutely the best i've heard for the price. (under 20$) I am currently sitting in front of 20k$ in sound gear at my personal desk, if your wondering about my credentials. http://www.alteclansing.com/ae/us/headphones/muzx+reg-xy-mzx126w/invt/mzx126w/

  72. Sennheiser HD 428 Closed Circumaural Headphones by MyraJune · · Score: 1

    Relatively neutral sound, comfy around-the-ear fit, available in two cord lengths for portable or studio use, list at $99, available on web 'refurbished' (yeah... sure..) for as little as $40.
    Okay at noise blocking.
    Surprisingly good sound.
    They've been pretty durable over 1 year of constant portable use.

  73. Philips SHS8100 Earhooks by WD · · Score: 1

    Ear buds never stay in my ears. These are hooks, so they stay put. They stay comfortable in my ears even after extended listening. They isolate noise well, and they have a great sound. For the price, they can't be beat!

    http://www.usa.philips.com/c/headphones/shs8100_28/prd/

  74. Panasonic.... by Jager+Dave · · Score: 1

    I used to travel a LOT, on business - I bought these over-the-ear earphones for about $10 at Hel*Mart - they had about 40% better frequency response than the Sony ones that cost twice as much... Unfortunately, lost the last pair, and haven't been able to find the exact same ones again - but check out Panasonic headphones, definitely.

  75. Great Topic. by chasisaac · · Score: 1
    I used the old version of these from Wal-Mart or Best Buy. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sony-DR-EX12IP-Headphones-for-iPod-and-iPhone-Black/17480439. These are my long time favorites. Fit nice in my big honking ear hole with the white buds. Can by replaceable soft rubber for the ear in various sizes.

    I can keep them in for hours. Blocks out the whole world while I am out doing needed evils (like shopping). I cannot really hear people who may want to talk with me as I do not want to talk with them. Very little noise out for other people to hear. I LOVE THESE HEADPHONES.

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  76. Yep, cheap Grados rule. by gumpish · · Score: 3

    A big +1 on the cheaper Grados.

    As a non-audiophile I was blown away when a friend lent me his backup pair of SR-80s. I didn't know music could sound like that...

    If only they didn't leak sound... but the open design is exactly what makes them sound as clear as they are.

    Best sub $100 purchase I've ever made.

  77. Earbuds: try Skullcandy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For years I'd get mediocre earbuds... Essentially, I'd buy anything under $25.

    Instead of the cheapos, I got a pair of Skullcandy earbuds that sit in your canal, and the frequency response is downright impressive. It takes a little to get used to them sitting in the canal, however they sound great, and don't move while running or exercising. They will block out the outside world if you want them to...

    Bonus: they also have an answer button and built-in mic, so they can also be used with my iPhone for phone calls.

  78. Best for me by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    I'm going to answer the headline as it applies to me, rather than trying to match the details specified in the body. When i'm at work or at home i prefer regular headphones with flat foam coverings. Not the kind that go around your hear, but the kind that rest on top. A couple caveats, the foam has to be soft, not scratchy, and the band can't be too tight or it will pinch my ears. I bought a disastrous pair a while back that have a "cup" design like it's mean to go around your ear, but are actually designed to go on top of it, so the edge of the cup presses down all long the rim of your ear. This was combined with a very stiff headband that made them incredibly annoying to wear. I actually broke the headband by accident trying to stretch it out, but that did result in making them loose enough to tolerate.

    When i'm out, usually exercising, going for a walk somewhere, or just out doing some shopping or whatever, i prefer the earbud style headphones that actually have a plastic loop attached that goes over your ear to old them on. Regular earbuds just fall out when i try to use them, or i shove them in so hard they hurt, and then after a few minutes they fall out anyways. The plastic loop keeps them in place without applying significant pressure. And since there's no headband you can still easily fit them in your pocket when you're not using them.

    I don't really have a favorite brand or model number for either of those types, usually i just pick up whatever looks decent and is moderately priced at Radio Shack or Amazon. Apparently i'm not much of an audiophile.

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  79. Wireless? by Luckyo · · Score: 1

    If you're looking for headphones for your mobile, I would recommend ditching the wires and going bluetooth. For example: http://www.nokia.com/global/products/accessory/bh-505/

    There are cheaper and worse model, and these are probably slightly over your budget (they're around 50 EUR), but you get excellent noise isolation and good sound quality alongside great battery life.

  80. Recommendations for Mac? by El+Royo · · Score: 1

    I've wanted to get a good set of headphones with mic for use with the Mac... which means it must be USB capable. Everything I've tried so far is crap. The Creative USB connector has fallen apart on three of them so far. I don't want to have to get a separate mic because I use it with a laptop and it's just annoying to have that many cables. Anyone have any recommendations?

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    1. Re:Recommendations for Mac? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a computer that uses standard ports, and for fucks sake why doesnt a multi thousand dollar computer in this day and age have a god damed mic in the screen

    2. Re:Recommendations for Mac? by bughunter · · Score: 1

      I have a set of Sennheiser PC350 Gaming headphones. They're not cheap, but when I was wearing them 20 or 30 hours a week, it was worth every cent. The sound quality is excellent, and they're supremely comfortable.

      If you use headphones like this with a Mac, you will need an external audio adapter. Good ones are inexpensive... but so are bad ones, so shop carefully.

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    3. Re:Recommendations for Mac? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your mac has bluetooth get yourself a samsung HS3000. (30 bucks shipped amazon) You can plug any headphones you want into it, pair it with your phone at the same time as your computer, and plug it into your usb port to keep it charged. It has a mic, volume control, next/prev/play/pause/call controls.

      Instead of more cables get less cables. The sound quality is great under lion. I had to pair it a couple times before the apt-x(hi quality) audio and itunes control worked but its been problem free since.

    4. Re:Recommendations for Mac? by El+Royo · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out!

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  81. My experiences... by Polo · · Score: 1

    I've tried a lot of headphones and earbuds, and these are my recommendations:

    earbuds:
    klipsch s2m - $50 - great isolating earbuds with decent sound, easy to insert and cheap. (I got them for about $30)
    klipsch s4i - $99 - great sound and isolation, but a bit harder to put in (wrap around back of ears)

    headphones:
    sennheiser hd201 - less than $20 -- great isolating, over the ear sound for cheap.
    sennheiser hd5xx - $$ - I've owned the HD580 (wore them out!) and HD595 models and love them. Comfortable for hours and hours. Only quibble is they use 1/4" jacks which nothing uses nowadays. You might want to check the PC3xx series for headphones with mic.

    also the guys at http://www.heaphone.com/ give great advice (not affiliated with them in any way)

    1. Re:My experiences... by stajp · · Score: 1

      I agree for Sennheiser HD201, there's nothing near it for that price. Sure, OP's price range is double the price of HD201, but it easily overruns anything that cost 10-20$ more, and with the difference OP can buy a decent mic :D

  82. The cheap Turtle Beach by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 1

    Since you said a Mic boom wasn't a deal breaker grab up a pair of the cheap Turtle Beach ones from wallmart. I think they cost about $40 or so.

    They are a bit bassy but not horribly so and the noise isolation is pretty much on par with strong earplugs when you put them on. I had to bend the top arc out a bit on mine because they pinched a bit too hard ( I wear glasses ) but now I can wear them for hours without even noticing them.

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  83. Sony MDR-V6 by luncheon · · Score: 1

    I'd stretch to 70ish bucks and grab a pair of these - pro quality and sound in an affordable price (at $75 right now in Amazon). Paraphrasing Commodore: "You can't buy a better headphone set at twice the price."

    1. Re:Sony MDR-V6 by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      Sony sucks but I still use these MDR-V6 headphones. As I mentioned elsewhere, I've been using them for about 18 years.

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    2. Re:Sony MDR-V6 by luncheon · · Score: 1

      I have a set of MDR-7506s (same as the V6). They are great, and there are no better set of cans for twice the price. They still use them in EVERY SINGLE sound recording studio around the world, so that may be for a reason...

  84. AKG Acoustics K-240 Semi Open Studio Headphones by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

    AKG Acoustics K-240 Semi Open Studio Headphones

    Can't beat them at $80.00 USD. Very detailed sound.

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    1. Re:AKG Acoustics K-240 Semi Open Studio Headphones by oldmac31310 · · Score: 0

      I had a pair of these or similar. I hated them. Useless. Threw them away in frustration.

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  85. Audio Technica is the way to go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AT equipment is going to be your best studio-quality equipment you can find for the price. Sweetwater has a bunch of their stuff on sale at the moment. These are only $59 with free shipping. Can't beat that! http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ATHD40/

  86. Sony Sports head phones by jader3rd · · Score: 1

    I don't know if these are the $20 Sony's posted about earlier, but I love my pair. They can usually be found for around $25 and they're great. Because they have the loop that goes around your ear they rest on the outside of your ear, never fall off accidentally, are ear buds, and don't go deep into your ear canal (that really bothers me). Possibly an audiophile might find issue with them, but I have yet to think that anything I was hearing with those earbuds was worse because of them.

  87. You don't want them too good. by utkonos · · Score: 2

    Being a DJ and a gear head, I've spent lots of time and thought on what to buy and I've made quite a few trials. In my experience you need to look at exactly what you are going to be doing with the headphones (or speakers for that matter). If you are going to be doing recording, you want to get a very good set, and by very good, I mean very unforgiving. They need to reproduce the sound as accurately as possible. The problem with these is that they are too good to listen to most MP3 recordings. They are so good that they expose lower quality recordings to the point that they sound bad. Those same MP3s will sound much better on cheaper, more forgiving speakers and headphones. Since you mentioned $50 as your budget, you won't have a problem.

  88. Philips Virtual Surround Sound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These are probably the BEST in-ear's I've EVER had. Unfortunately, they don't manufacture them anymore, good thing i have 3 sets.

  89. Broadcast intercom? by darkjedi521 · · Score: 1

    If you're looking to do broadcast quality, you're not going to find anything acceptable anywhere near your price point. And headsets intended for intercom usage tend to be mono. I've worn many a pair of Telex, Clearcom, and Production Intercom headsets. Their fairly decent at killing external noise, but for a decent double ear pair (mono) with a quality mic, you're looking at $200 - $300 for a pair. Of course, we might have two different definitions of broadcast quality. Mine is "needs to be intelligible to stage crew regardless of what other ambient noise is going on/plays nice with professional PA systems".

  90. KOSS UR-40 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The cheapest of the high-end (or the best of the low-end depending on how you look at it). Very crisp highs, substantial (but not overbearing) bass, clear mids. Comfortable, insulating circumaural earpads provide big-headphone quality while still being lightweight. Also, the Koss warranty (no questions asked, no documentation needed) is pretty nice. They're collapsible enough to be slightly portable, and they can take a beating, although they won't fit in your pocket (unless you wear cargo pants, anyhow).

  91. Koss Porta-Pro by Chirs · · Score: 3, Informative

    In that price range you'd be hard pressed to beat the Koss Porta Pro. Very old-school styling, on-ear, and no isolation, but the sound is really good for the price.

    My upscale headphones are AKG 501s, driven with a homemade PPA amplifier with a custom bass-boost filter designed to compensate for the bass rolloff in the headphones themselves.

    If you want isolation, you're either looking at DJ-style headphones or else isolating earbuds. I can't help you there.

    1. Re:Koss Porta-Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can second this. The Koss Porta Pro's are ugly as sin itself but they are pure gold for their price. Likewise the KSC-55 and KSC-35 or KSC-25 are absolutely amazing if you can find a pair. Those all three share the same 'bits' but they come in different packaging. The 55's wrap behind your head (my favorite, I wouldn't mind owning them again), and the 35's and 25's sit on your ears. For a while they also had 55's that had a mic attached. I think they still sell headphones using these drivers but I'm pretty far removed from the loop nowadays.

      None of these will do squat for isolation. Good luck there.

    2. Re:Koss Porta-Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because they are/were a meme on 4chan doesn't make them good.

  92. ATH-M40fs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good ear seal, but heavier than K240's
    $56 bucks right now on Amazon.

  93. Koss PortaPro by smprather · · Score: 1

    There's only one answer to this question: Koss PortaPro. I have owned many different over the ear headphones (I have hearing aids). I have $200 Beyerdynaics, I have $80 Grados, I have $90 Sennsheisers (two different kinds), I've had some crappy Pioneers. And more not worth mentioning. The PortaPro's are absolutely incredible for the size and price. And they're highly sensitive so you can get good volume on an airplane from a low powered portable device. The only problem is *zero* noise isolation. But that's good for me since I run 40 miles per week with them. They also have a lifetime warranty. My sweat blows out a phone about every 2 months. I send them, and $9 back to Koss and get a new pair. I have two pair so I can have one working while waiting for the other. I'm a lifetimer for PortaPros. Just get them.

    1. Re:Koss PortaPro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pro tip: get a watertight cover for your phone. They're not expensive.

  94. Buyer's guides by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hi. I cover in-ear headphones for Macworld. I've got a reasonable amount of experience with other styles as well. Long-time /. reader.

    First of all, Tyll Hertsens, founder of online headphone merchant HeadRoom, has a relatively new site focusing on headphone reviews, news, etc. He's got his buyer's guide, the "Wall of Fame". All of his recommendations are quite good:

    http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame

    We've also got our own buyer's guide at Macworld, but it's updated right before the holiday buying season, so it's missing some newer models:

    http://www.macworld.com/article/1144708/headphones_buying_guide_2010.html

    Good $50 on-ears are hard to find, particularly with a microphone. The Monoprice model mentioned in other posts is a great deal. If you could go up to $100 you could get some really great stuff—though I'm not sure about finding something with a microphone.

    1. Re:Buyer's guides by mattwardfh · · Score: 1

      Crap, forgot to log in. Oh well.

      I did write the parent comment. Hopefully it's helpful.

  95. plantronics / thermal take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are willing to spend more than $50 I would recommend the Plantronics Bluetooth range, I have the 905+ and will never look back.
    If price is an issue have a look at thermal take, their earbuds are surprisingly good.

  96. AudioTechnica ATH M30 are $50 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The AudioTechnica ATH M30s are ~$50, good response, and excellent isolation.
    I recommend em.
    http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATHM30-ATH-M30-Professional-Headphones/dp/B00007E7C8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339562984&sr=8-1

  97. Grado Labs iGrado by relaxinparadise · · Score: 1

    Some posts have already mentioned the more expensive Grado headphones, but I had not seen any mention the iGrado. The iGrado is priced right at the $50 mark the OP asked for and use the drivers from the slightly more expensive SR60i model. I personally own an SR80, before they came out with the i designation, and still think they sound better than anything else I have tried, as I prefer the greater bass they put out than the SR60 and iGrado models. The OP did want a flat sound level, and I think the iGrado model seems to hit the mark.

  98. Head-Fi website by Tacoboy · · Score: 0

    Go to the website Head-Fi, get answers to headphone questions there.

  99. Score Sennheiser HD238's for $25 ($140 list) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recently got $140 Sennheiser HD238's for $25 on Amazon. "refurbished", but completely as new, 90-day warranty. I love them. Google it, you'll see numerous very positive reviews. Best I've ever owned.

  100. Sennheiser cx200 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    these earphones, currently $40 from newegg, work and sound great.

  101. Not $50 or less... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love my http://www.etymotic.com/ best sounding earphones I've ever owned... but, they haven't been very durable for me in my use...

    Been looking seriously at http://www.heilsound.com/pro/products/ps3/#1 as a set of over-the-ear headphones..

  102. Koss Plug by neonleonb · · Score: 1

    I really like the Koss Plug series (e.g. http://www.amazon.com/Koss-Plug-In-Ear-Headphones-Black/dp/B00001P4XA). I'm not sure they meet your stringent audio requirements, but I think they sound fine, they're cheap, they fit in your ear comfortably, and they provide a good amount of sound isolation--enough that I feel I can safely listen when riding the train.

    Their biggest issue is that because they're really *in* your ear, you can hear when the cord bangs against things. I don't mind, but you may. But for $12, you can pick up a pair and decide what you think.

    1. Re:Koss Plug by Dwedit · · Score: 1

      I bought those once, and thought they were absolutely horrible. If you want to hear super-loud booming bass and literally nothing else, get those headphones.

    2. Re:Koss Plug by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      koss plugs or koss porta pros. easy choice. both cheap, both good.

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  103. 15-20$ is not cheap by tanveer1979 · · Score: 1

    Cheap headphones cost around 5-10$(tops).
    The quality ones (Creative EP-630, Soundmagic etc.,) start from $15, and offer brilliant sound quality for use with entry level mp3 players.
    However, if you have a cutting edge high end system, or a very high end sound card, and listen to flac or other uncompressed formats, a 30-50$ in ear will make quite a difference.
    If you travel the subway, spend $50 to buy a noise cancellation (active), it will be worth it.

    That said, from 50$ onwards, sound quality increase is incremental. A 80$ headphone will have the sound quality of 250$ headphones for 99.9% of the listeners.
    However, most people, even ones with ruined years from years of high volume listening, can easily tell between a 10$ and a 30$ in-ear headphone.

    Then a lot depends on music too. If you are a metal/rock kind of "bright" music guy, you will find quality from 15$ onwards. If you are a opera kind of guy, come to $30. If you have sensitive ears, $50, if you have the hearing of superman, spend $80.
    "Audiophiles, even hardcore ones" tell me that above $80 its one in a million who will get the difference in case of in ear. In case of over the ear headphones, the peak happens around 120$. However, for me, the peak happens in the $50-60 range. Anything above that sounds the same to me no matter what the music, but then I do not have a very high end system, just a decent quality sound card, and listen to mp3 at 320kbps

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    1. Re:15-20$ is not cheap by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      You wrote my post for me.

      Creative EP-630 subjectively gets me about 80% of the way to perfection, which is more than good enough for my purposes. They're also cheap enough that I would just shrug it off if I broke them. They've survived a year of beating and ripping at the cords, but it would't have been be a disaster if they had broken after six months.

      For big home cinema headphones you might want to add an extra $50 to the advice given by the parent post. The sub $50 ones tend to be either uncomfortable or sound like crap, but there is always good stuff in the $50 to $100 range.

  104. Review them yourself by dwater · · Score: 1

    I've tested so many headphones/etc and have come to prefer the Senn HD25 on-ear. i also don't care too much that they're on-ear, but the sound quality is amazing.

    However, if there is one thing that I've found, it is that everyone has their own hearing 'profile' and which is 'best' is very, very subjective.
    If you don't want to waste a lot on money trying different ones out (like I did, actually), go to some store that has a wide range and try them out with your own music. IMO, there really isn't any other way.

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    1. Re:Review them yourself by nicovl · · Score: 1

      Finally someone mentions the only real headphones out there... The HD25s are the definitive headphones. If you pay attention you will notice that at least 50% of all people who work with Audio professionally use the HD25s. From studios to soundmen to Deejays.. HD25 is the way to go. I wouldn't spend my money on anything else. And if you think you can get a good set of headphones for 50 bucks... think again!

  105. Sennheiser by Evtim · · Score: 1

    Haven't heard anything bad about them so far. One of the few companies where, to quote T.P. "You can go inside and talk with the person whose name is above the door. It usually means it is not run by crooks" [from "Going postal"]

    And their products are excellent! I know there was a price tag mentioned in the question, but if you want to have superb quality in-ear headphones, get Sennheiser IE 7 model. I have had the pleasure of winning every argument "why do you need anything above MP3 192 kbit quality if you cannot hear the difference" with those headphones and good MP3 player that can play FLAC files [I buy Creative or Cowon]. People invariably find their jaws at knee level after sampling my personal audio combos...

    1. Re:Sennheiser by kermidge · · Score: 1

      I've been using a set of Sennheiser TR130's (over-ear, decent isolation) for three years now, they're pretty good - but also more than twice the OP's budget. They're also not the lightest, but comfortable enough. Listening to tunes now, (FLAC, stereo, 96kHz, ~2400kbps), sounds good.

    2. Re:Sennheiser by Admiral+Llama · · Score: 1

      I'm in here just to put in props for Sennheiser. Keep in mind that you can replace parts like earcups and cords on anything but the very bottom tier Sennheisers so picking up a used pair is certainly not out of the question. $50 of used Sennheiser will likely beat $50 of new anything that's suggested here today.

  106. Brookstone Earpods by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

    I also hate earbuds, I find them uncomfortable and they never seem to stay put in my ears.

    BUT, I also want something really portable... I picked up these Brookstone Earpods a couple years back and they're great... very good sound quality and very comfortable... I can even wear them lying down with my ear against a pillow, they're so flat. $59.99, hopefully close enough to your price range.

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  107. AKG K271 by Mike610544 · · Score: 1
    AKG K271s are quite good. More expensive than $50, but OP did ask for opinions on other price points.

    noise isolation (not cancellation)

    Excellent. Wear them for an extended period and when you take them off it's shocking how noisy the world is.

    flat/near flat response (I need to be able to hear bass, but I don't need my eardrums blown out)

    Not flat, but very pleasant sounding. Bass isn't hyped, and highs get a subtle emphasis.

    long-term comfort (earbuds usually hurt for me) and durability.

    They're comfortable to wear for hours, and the cable's detachable/replaceable, so the vast majority of failures can be remedied.

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  108. JVC Flats by thatDBA · · Score: 1

    JVC Flats sound wonderful and can be found for $20-25, maybe less at some retailers. The bass response is impressive. The drivers rotate and fold flat for easy packing/storage.

  109. Koss PortaPro by k31bang · · Score: 2

    Koss PortaPro. Good since 1980's, and still good. Of course probably not what you need( not noise canceling). My favorite Koss product.

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  110. replacements by englishstudent · · Score: 0

    I know you don't like earbuds, but just in case you get a pair, make sure you can get rubber replacements for them. I paid about $90 for a set of Denon headphones, lost the rubber on one of the ear pieces and am now stuck unless I wanna fork out another $90.

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  111. Klipsch by epp_b · · Score: 1

    I have a pair of Klipsch in-ear phones. They're reasonably comfortable (and I *hate* earbuds), have decent sound quality with adequate bass response and isolate very well.

    They include three sizes of ear pieces if you're still worried about comfort. The set also comes with a handy little pouch. They're so portable, I have them in a pocket at all times.

    They cost me $25 on Amazon and the set closer to your $50 budget probably sounds even better. That said, I'm no hardcore audiophile, but actually *like* music... ;)

  112. Gee, it sure is 4chan /g/ in here... by KrazyDave · · Score: 1

    I didn't get enough of the 40 or 50 mindless, daily threads asking for earphone recommendations on /g/ on any given day. Now it's here on /. Awesome.

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    1. Re:Gee, it sure is 4chan /g/ in here... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      it's a good way to shill affiliate links I suppose.

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  113. I'll second grados. by spektre1 · · Score: 2

    I know everyone else has answered this already. I'm a fan of the Grado SR60is. As a game design hobbyist, I have spent a little time messing around with wave forms, so I have a little experience. I don't care for most of the audiophile nonsense I've seen around, and I have not performed any form of tests, so this is of course only my non-professional opinion. They still sound great to me, better than any of the others I've tried. The open cups do reduce the bass some, but the drivers are big enough that it still works well. I've heard the wood ones have slightly better resonance and have considered upgrading them to see if it's true, but probably don't care enough to invest. They have physically fallen apart on me slowly, frankly, and the build quality is significantly cheaper than their hundreds of dollar sets, but it's nothing a little tape hasn't fixed. And I only really care about how they sound, not how they look. I got my pair for $70, which is 20 more than your price range, but it's the best i found for the money at the time. Feel free to take it or leave it, I hope one more opinion in the mix is useful.

  114. Durability by Sigg3.net · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or do the earbuds last maximum a year, regardless of price? After about one year, I always lose sound in either left or right..

    And I have a different cheap pair for the gym.

    Anyone?

  115. As far as comfort... by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

    Consider getting earbuds with adjustable padding/size because everyone's ear canals are different.

  116. Good companies in the F500 by KMSelf · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Off the top of my head and the F100: Ford, Apple, Intel, and 3M come to mind as not markedly evil.

    There's Kroger, Macy's, Kohl, Gap, and Land o'Lakes.

    Lear, for certain values of consumer product (like a G6 ... but that's another company).

    Whole Foods. McGraw-Hill, Levi Straus, and of course, Harley-Davidson.

    I'm sure there are complaints against some of these. But I don't see these companies as taking direct and blatantly aggressive anti-consumer actions as Sony and others have. Looking up the holdings of ethical / socially conscious investment funds might also prove interesting.

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    1. Re:Good companies in the F500 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The mods are really off today. This is a direct response to the question posed above. It is part of the natural thread of the conversation.

  117. Sennheiser HD 448 if you can find them by cbope · · Score: 1

    Fits all the requirements mentioned except a boom mic, although they were a tad over $50 new. It's a non-current model but you may be able to find them online. Very flat, full frequency response, no boosted bass. Definitely the best ~$50 headphones I've ever owned, and I have some other fairly expensive open-back headphones as well. These are definitely one of the best under $150 closed-back headphones. For those that don't know, designing a good sounding closed-back (isolating) headphone is really hard, which is why most cheap headphones are open-backed (non isolating). It's far easier to design good sounding headphones when you don't care about sound isolation.

    As some others have recommended the Sennheiser PX100's are also great, but they bleed a lot of sound to the environment and have zero isolation. They are not as long-term comfortable as the HD 448's either, since the 448 is circumaural (around the ear, not on the ear like PX100's). The HD 448's are good for portable use since they have a 3.5mm (1/8") jack and not a full sized 6.3mm (1/4") jack like many higher end headphones.

    In any case, it's really hard to go wrong with anything in the Sennheiser range, although some of their cheaper models have boosted bass so you need to carefully check the description when selecting a model. I can't stand headphones with boosted bass, they are very fatiguing to listen to after a while and I prefer a flat frequency response anyway.

    1. Re:Sennheiser HD 448 if you can find them by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      I absolutely love my Sennheiser PX100s. They're inexpensive, durable and sound better than anything else in their size or price range, better than phones costing more than twice as much. I'm never going back to earbuds for my MP3 player.

      In a completely different price range ($250+), I love my AIAIAI TMA-1s (and have preordered the updated "studio" over-the-ear version). They're closed-back phones, but with none of the tubbiness that haunt cheap closed-back phones, like you mentioned. The guys behind them really did their homework, the sound is great and the bass is utterly amazing. It's not huge or in your face, but it's deep, solid and clean, perfect for DJing (which is what the non-studio version was made for). They'll also play loud enough to rattle your skull without even breaking a sweat or distorting.

      Cheap headphones have their place, but gimme a nice set of Sennheisers, Beyerdynamics, AIAIAIs etc. any day for listening at home or in a studio.

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  118. garden tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  119. Senheiser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Senheiser HD 201 or HD 202
    Noise isolation + incredible sound for a mere $25

  120. Fake specs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a shame you can't go by the specs on the products. Apparently they can put whatever they want. So I just got a pair of $9 Sony headphones. That way if they get broken or lost it's no biggie.

  121. Bose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bose. Simple. I have 3 pairs, in-ear, on-ear and over-ear headphones, and so far, i've not heard any other manufacturer who can produce similar audio quality.

  122. Ask Slashdot: How lame is this poll? by dontmakemethink · · Score: 1

    Seriously, let's bicker about even more trivial shit than what we're paid for, in our spare time. What the fuck do you people come here for if not the opposite of that. If you're trying to prove that /.'ers have no lives, spouses, or kids, mission accomplished.

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    1. Re:Ask Slashdot: How lame is this poll? by tensigh · · Score: 1

      Double that! I can't believe this got on the main page.

  123. Two options that are above your price threshold by ratbag · · Score: 1

    For sound quality, I use Etymotic Research ER-4P. Very clean sound, not overly bassy, good isolation. Comfort - not so good, but YMMV and they come with a selection of bud designs and sizes.

    For comfort, please don't laugh, but I use some Beats by Dre Studio HD. The sound is in no way neutral, but there's plenty of detail and like I say the comfort is sky-high. They support my iPad/iPhone (although I don't think I've used that functionality yet). The cancelling is reasonably good, though the ER-4Ps isolation is more effective. Battery life is not so great and you can't use them at all when the batteries are dead.

  124. This is a question? by tensigh · · Score: 1

    Seriously -- headphones??? This is a \. question? My, how the mighty have fallen!

  125. Glasses by Kdansky · · Score: 1

    I am also looking for headphones, but with one primary caveat: I wear glasses. If I use on-ear, that gets painful after a while because on-ear-phones press my ear against the handles. If I wear around-ear, the earphones dislodge my glasses frequently, or push them slightly away from where they are supposed to be. Both issues are no problem for an hour, and a major annoyance for prolonged use. Are there any ear-phones which alleviate these problems, or should I just stick with in-ear phones instead?

  126. Quick note about the PortaPro by fa2k · · Score: 1

    Koss PortaPro is quite cheap, and something you can use when travelling. The fidelity is not great, though. I have some Sennheisers at 5x the price, and the difference is obvious -- anyone can hear that (and I couldn't even hear the difference when I re-encoded a WAV file with 4 bits per sample). There is no obvious distrortion in the PortaPro though, and I sill keep mine around and prefer them to a Koss headset and a Plantronics headset (+all cheap earbuds that I use for running).

    1. Re:Quick note about the PortaPro by fa2k · · Score: 1

      btw, the PortaPro is very popular in some countries (Norway) for some weird reason. Or it was like that 4 years ago, anyway.

  127. Klipsch s3 In-Ear. $39 or less. by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

    I bought a pair of Klipsch s3 In-ear headphones about a year ago for $35. These are, hands down, the best canalphones you are going to get for that money anywhere. Full stop. J&R might still have an open-box pair for $15.

    If you're into cans on your head, the Sennheiser HD201S is $30 or so. These sound just as good and don't leak too much.

    I've bought really expensive headphones over the years (not worth it if you abuse them like I do); these are my new go-tos. Good luck!

  128. 50$ too cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly, get some high-end Sennheiser or Bose earphones for 10x the price. They will last 10x longer and sound 100x better.

    I've got some Sonny digital noise reduction earphones that were insanely expensive, but apart from the fact that I bought them from Sony many years ago before I knew better -- don't buy anything from them! -- they have served me well over the years and are virtually undestructable. Active noise cancellation isn't worth the money for indoor use, though, so I'd recommend normal high-end headphones.

    Don't buy Logitech or any other PC-oriented brand and don't buy Sony, because these suck in one way or another.

  129. Doesn't quite fit your criteria, but... by sscroggins · · Score: 1

    I have a pair of LG Tones that I absolutely love. I listen to music and audiobooks a lot when I'm doing things around the house or out jogging and I've screw up several sets of wired headphones. The Tone runs a bit over $50 and it's in-ear, but it's an awesome set of bluetooth headphones. Nice bass, but not crazy. Long battery life. There are a couple minor quirks to get used to (I've bumped the forward button occasionally), but it's worth it. I've listened from techno to thrash metal and they've all sounded good with these headphones. Currently alternating between Five Finger Death Punch, and The Coldfire Trilogy

  130. SOL Republic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read about how the SOL Republic "shouldn't sound this god" for their $99 over-ear headphones (named "Tracks"), so I bought a pair and WOW I really REALLY like them. They're the cheaper version, with a $129 pair having a bit more kick in them. But then, the over-ear wasn't so great for yard work and exercise, so I got a set of the SOL in-ear "Amps" and I think I like them even more, at $59. I alternate between them depending on what's going on but I spend nearly all day in one pair or the other. Check them out at solrepublic.com and at http://amzn.to/NxLPh2

    Note, these aren't Soul by Ludacris, which are just branded and expensive. I don't recommend Soul by Ludacris, nor do I recommend Beats by Dre, nor the 50 Cent brand either. These all play on big names and are overpriced and not well balanced in their audio.

  131. Klipsch S-2, Shure SE-215 by marynya · · Score: 1

    The Klipsch S-2 ($50 list, $25 - $40 street) are in-the-ear phones with good sound isolation and very good audio quality for the price. Like most of the less expensive phones, they are somewhat bass-heavy but not too bad in this regard and the actual bass extention is impressive. Midrange and treble are uneven but better than you usually get in this price range. They are sensitive enough to use with portable equipment. Wiring is kind of flimsy. If used in an active fashion, they are not likely to go much beyond the one-year waranty. You really have to go to the Shure SE-215 ($150 list, $90 - $99 street) to get professional stage monitors with very flat frequency response, superb sound isolation, secure and comfortable fit, low listening fatigue and user-replaceable wires. These less expensive models do not reproduce extreme bass or extreme treble but they are very smooth within their range, say from 50 Hz to 12 KHz. They are sensitive enough to use with portable equipment. Mike

  132. Re:What electronics can you buy new 28 years later by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, they don't seem very reliable.

  133. Steelseries Siberia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just bought this http://steelseries.com/us/products/audio/steelseries-siberia-v2-usb to use at work and it's almost perfect:
    - you can still hear people talking around you but it muffles a lot of it allowing you to keep it on low volumes,
    - people absolutelly cannot hear what you're playing (while they are on your head),
    - you can totally hear bass,

    I bought it here in Brazil at R$ 375,00 (something like 250 USD I think) but they're totally worth it, and they are probably much cheaper on countries the company actually acknowledge. It has a microfone.

  134. Avoid ear canal sealing buds by bjb · · Score: 1
    Though I think the sound quality tends to be awesome, I would suggest avoiding buds that seal your ear canal with a gasket of some sort. For an example, see this picture of what I mean.

    Why? Because if you put on your headphones after taking a shower these headphones will seal the moisture in your ear and if you don't keep both your ears AND headphones clean (I mean wiping with alcohol or something), it will create a perfect environment for an ear infection to form. I had two painful ones before I realized it was the headphones and switched to a different design.

    It is a shame since you can hear everything beautifully with these kinds of headphones. I've realized it is either buy some cans (read: large whole ear covering kind) or "fits in your ear" type buds (like what comes with an iPod) for the best and least infection prone experience.

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    1. Re:Avoid ear canal sealing buds by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      I found that folding up once (not twisting) the corner of a bit of tissue or toilet paper and gently inserting it in the ear canal for a second works very well. You don't want to hear the tissue; that's too far. You just let it come into contact with the moisture and wick most of it away (thus only folding once; you don't want the tissue to have much in the way of structural integrits). That plus a few minutes of time before putting in the IEMs works well to keep the ears reasonably dry and the monitors reasonably clean.

      Then again, using the monitors "wet" never gave me an infection, just messy monitors. I may simply be more resistant to ear infections than you are.

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    2. Re:Avoid ear canal sealing buds by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      It might be just you, too. I use earbuds like that all the time and never get ear infections. I never put them in after a shower, though, not because I'm worried about infection. I'm worried about ruining expensive earbuds.

  135. headphone analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    our friends over at 4chan have already done this analysis
    http://i48.tinypic.com/t011sg.jpg

  136. Re:You sound like you want some cheap DJ headphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Stax Omega 3: 5000 USD
    High-end tube headphone amp: 5000 USD
    Sound isolation for the room: 2500 USD
    Listening to audio files compressed with lossy compression, played through a crappy DAC on your laptop: priceless

    Just wanted to be funny, nothing personal Prune!

  137. How to make money in a recession using Headphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check this out!!! Remember that one australian dollar is equal to one US dollar.

    http://i.imgur.com/QH5JJ.png

    want to make money? Sell those headphones to Australians for less than $250 us dollars.....

  138. Koss Porta-Pro or Sennheiser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I second this. For his budget the Koss Porta Pro is really hard to beat. I use those with my phone when listening to music on the go.

    Other than that I use Sennheiser HD595 when at the computers, those headphones a're great for my music tastes and not too expensive. The more expensive Sennheiser version sounded lifeless when I tried. Also an even more expensive studio reference level AKG sounded lifeless too, sound was dull to the point of hollowness, no bass whatsoever with sane listening volumes.

    Your best bet is to go to a hi-fi shop and say "this is my budget, give me the options". If they're any good they won't try to hard sell you the most expensive gear. Try out each one. Do some ABX (kind of hard with headphones but you can ask them to help). Check also how it feels worn on the head. If it feels like your pillow when you go to sleep, it's decent enough.

    Good luck!

  139. Bose noise cancelling by careysb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know what you mean about the exaggerated bass, that's is exactly what I experienced with their speakers in their show room. However, I purchased their original noise cancelling head phones ($300) when they first came out because my cubical was immediately below the heating and air conditioning system. The head phones DID NOT exhibit the same bass boost that their speakers did and the noise cancelling ability was outstanding. I've tried other noise cancelling head phones just as a point of comparison and none did as good a job. The tonal range seemed to be evenly distributed and the ability to reproduce sounds accurately was good as near as I can tell. Also, Bose will (or at least did) give you a $100 credit if you brought in an old pair for replacement. Seems like an absolute necessity if you work in a cubical environment.

    1. Re:Bose noise cancelling by catmistake · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean about the exaggerated bass, that's is exactly what I experienced with their speakers in their show room. However, I purchased their original noise cancelling head phones ($300) when they first came out because my cubical was immediately below the heating and air conditioning system. The head phones DID NOT exhibit the same bass boost that their speakers did and the noise cancelling ability was outstanding. I've tried other noise cancelling head phones just as a point of comparison and none did as good a job. The tonal range seemed to be evenly distributed and the ability to reproduce sounds accurately was good as near as I can tell. Also, Bose will (or at least did) give you a $100 credit if you brought in an old pair for replacement. Seems like an absolute necessity if you work in a cubical environment.

      As I admit freely, the Bose engineers are out of this world and do seemingly miraculous things with audio reproduction. I wish all pro audio engineers had their talent. My point was merely about fidelity. Bose speakers, in my experience, make the music sound nicer than it really is, and typical to Bose is the low end boost, thus it is not exactly fidelity by the definition of the word... Bose speakers lie to you. I think most people wouldn't mind this in most applications, but it doesn't hurt to be aware of it.

  140. Need some proper studies. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    Audiophile stuff is notoriously overpriced for quality and subject to the placebo effect. Expensive things are rated better, but when offered in a blind test often are no better, or worse, than cheaper stuff.

    "Gold plated contacts" are one such proven utterly worthless thing.

    So what we need are not a thousand testimonials, but rather some double-blind studies rating ear buds.

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  141. AIAIAI TMA-1 Studio by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

    There can only be one set of headphones that satisfy your needs:

    http://www.aiaiai.dk/tma-1-studio

    I have the non-studio version and while they are amazing headphones, after one test listen of the Studio version, I had to preorder immediately.

    They satisfy every one of your requirements: They have great noise isolation, even frequency response (they're studio 'phones made for mixing/mastering), ridiculously comfortable and extremely durable. Even if the frequency response is not 100% perfect to your taste, they take to EQing really well and will literally vibrate your skull before they distort. They're extremely efficient (good for mobile devices) and can play ridiculously loud without even breaking a sweat.

    The only downside is the cost: $269 with a mic ($249 without). But they're seriously the last set of headphones you'll ever have to buy. They're that good.

    And they look cool as fuck.

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  142. Senn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For under $100, The Grado SR-60s and Senn HD280s are pretty much it. Those are close to $100 though.

    You get what you pay for. With the exception of Bose. So for $50, you will get a noticeably better experiene than what you get for $20.

    Things that also matter are music genre you prefer. If you like classical, you're preferrred headphoens won't be that of a rap music fan. Rap needs bass. Classical needs better mids and upper frequencies.

    From what hte post says, you definietly want over the ear headphones. Still though, flat response is not a good way to ask for headphones. You can get headphoens that are studio monitors that are a flat response and hey sound like crap. I upgraded my Senn HD280s for a $150 pair of Aristocraft over ear headphones (more of a flat response) and regret it till this day. The Senns sounded better.

    I'll be frank. Get the Senn HD201 or HD419 headphones. If you can up your budget get the Senn HD280.

  143. Xone XD-40 $30 at Amazon by residents_parking · · Score: 1

    I was recently looking for something with about the same requirements. The XD-40 cost me GBP 70 but as luck would have it you can get them for $30 at Amazon which is a fantastic price.

    They are DJ / Studio headphones so good isolation, robust, and will go LOUD. Great sound quality as far as I can tell; no obvious colouration and good bass extension. Good staging, too.

    Xone are by Allen and Heath and have a great rep in the DJ market.

    Unlike a lot of supra-aurals they are not a tight fit, but will not fall off. Circum-aurals offer better comfort but these are good enough for me.

    Also they fold, which together with the isolation makes them great for travel.

  144. I have spent a loooong time trying to answer this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I think I have...

    I have tried almost every brand of in ears out there and a few over ears (though not for a while)

    Best In-Ears bar none are the Shure 535's. Quite pricey but my god its the best sound you will get from anything you stick in or on your ears bar none

    Best value for money in ears are the Sennheiser CX300 family. Cost about £20 and are very very good. Cheap enough that you dont fear losing them, durable and good enough all round in most cases. I find they get a bit bassey as they get older though.

    I have a pair of Bose Noise cancelling on ears that I use for Air Travel. I dont find them great for general use though.

    The best over ears I have had were a Sennheiser model but I can't remember the model. At the time I tried almost all the over ears out there and the Sennheisers were by far the best. That may be different today, but I'd bet they are still top...

    Thanks,
    James

  145. Another vote for Monoprice by P-niiice · · Score: 1

    In your price range, just go to monoproce.com and grab one of their better pairs. You won't regret it. My $6 earbuds are the best I've ever heard, and the ratings on over-the-ears sets are great too.

  146. Koss Porta Pros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have to agree with others that have suggested the Koss Porta Pros. For the price, you just can't beat them. I've owned a pair for over 15 years with nearly daily use. Not designed to cancel noise, but they have great sound, and have ear pressure adjustment pads so you can wear them for long periods of time without your ears getting sore.

  147. Some Straight Dope on Headphones by sorokahdeen · · Score: 1

    I'm going to ignore the Sony hate and the price range. First: ignore sony-hate. Sony is a big company with lots of tentacles in a lot of pies and it is obvious that some parts of the company don't talk to one another. One thing Sony does well are consumer-level headphones which they make with an attention to reproducing consumer-level sound from buds and other things. The new XBA-1 series are not bad. With their balanced armature drivers, they provide a good, nuanced, balanced sound and they can go far enough in your ear behind silicone and foam earpieces to provide good sound coupled with good isolation. Sony offers other things in other price ranges. Much of it is good. Second: Up your price-range go up to the $80/$100+ range. Spend a little more and your'e in business at the low-end of the high end. This means award-winning Grado SR-60s, the Grado iGi high-end earbuds (they do Yo-Yo Ma's cello justice) for $130, you can get Sony MDR XB700s with fifty millimeter drivers in casques that look like princes Leia's buns that look stupid as all get out and sound *great*. Upping your price to here takes you out of sucker territory where headphone manufacturers sell all the things they drag out of their big box of "ghetto." Third: Avoid the low end of big name brands without serious consideration. Most super-big name headphone makers have a low-end product line that is wet, smelly garbage. Denon AHK 751s are sublime (so sublime they no longer make them) everything below them in the Denon line is landfill in the making. Sennheiser makes stunning, award-winning, mind-blowing, whole-notion-of-sound-redefining headphones: the price-range for them *starts* at several hundred dollars and the best part of the engineering that goes into everything else they made is the silk-screening that put their logo on them. Fourth: Read reviews and read them with a boulder of salt. If you need reviews, try Amazon. They crowd-source their reviews *and* have a program where their best writers get free items for reviewing. Amazon reviews can offer you a good spread of opinions--some of them honest: I've written several of them. Last: Be careful about Shure and Etymotic research. Shure is definitely not as good as they think they are for the prices they charge. Etymotic research is good even at the relatively low end (they require an hour or so of burn-in before they really do their thing) but they have filters which require changing and they're delicate with the low-enders breaking at the joint (glue doesn't work, sugrue does) or, better still, permanently dropping a channel about six seconds after they leave warranty.

  148. Best Circumaural for $100 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sony MDR-V6, plus will last for ever.

  149. Easy answer: spend $100 on MDR7506 by jjohn · · Score: 1

    I have been using these for over 10 years:

    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR7506-Professional-Diaphragm-Headphone/dp/B000AJIF4E

    These have fantastic fidelity, are lightweight and all around groovy.

    Every other headphone I've used under $100 has some level of fail (yes, I am looking at you apple
    earbuds) that makes me feel like I have just burned money.

  150. Grado SR 60i by fak3r · · Score: 1

    These are the best bang for the buck, slightly above OP's price, but worth it. Read some reviews online, there's not many bad things to say about these cans. http://www.headphone.com/headphones/grado-sr-60i.php

  151. Sony PIIQ circumaural headphones, great for ~$35 by fruitbane · · Score: 1

    I have a pair of Sony PIIQ headphones. They are circumaural, superaural if you have large ears, and they are quite comfortable. The color scheme is a bit garish, but some are more acceptable than others. The bonus is that they sound great for their price. They are a Consumer Reports best buy from last year's Christmas gift season and now that I own a pair I know why. They have held up OK since Christmas for me. I don't have longer-term experience with them for that.

  152. JVC HARX700 by Lisandro · · Score: 1

    These headphones can be had for 30 bucks and are incredibly good sounding.

    They're also big and bulky, but hey, that's the way they should be.

  153. Try ViSang by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

    Try the ViSang VS-R02/R03. They're pretty much identical except that the R03 hat nicer-looking buds, although I think that the R02 hat the better sound - they're both above what you'd expect for the price but the R02 is slightly clearer in my opinion. Then again the R03 is a bit more forgiving of badly-mixed music. It's not exactly night and day, though.

    Generally-speaking the R02/R03 are solid (semi-)budget IEMs with a fairly flat, rather analytical sound; you get good separation and while their bass isn't quite on par with more "fun-oriented" IEMs they're quite good with mids, which puts most singers front and center. Plus, you're not looking for bass monsters anyway. I recommend them for classical/orchestral music, a cappella and similarly intricate (and well-mixed) stuff and don't recommend them for punk rock and anything else where the mixing quality is secondary to being loud. Electronic music works very well, metal heavily depends on how well it's mixed. Oh, and you will hear badly-encoded MP3s.
    Do the ViSangs measure up against bigger players like Phonak? No, but then again they only cost half as much and sound more than half as good. (Plus, unlike Phonak's weird IEMs they actually fit into my ears.)

    The wires are somewhat stiff and have a memory effect; on the other hand they're robust and not very prone to telephony (that is, you hear the music and not the cable rubbing against your clothes). Both come with a shirt clip, a carrying box and an assortment of silicone and foam rubber caps with the R02's assortment being slightly larger (it comes with an additional pair of biflanges). Both are very comfortable to wear, even for long periods of time. As for sturdiness, it took me almost two years to break my R02s, which is okay for a 30 EUR investment in my book.

    If you're in the states you might know the R02 as the Brainwavz ProAlpha and the R03 as the Brainwavz m2. They're pretty much straight-up rebrands.

    I bought my R02 and R03 as imports from HK and UK, respectively. The prices including postage were 30 and 50 EUR, which is very cheap compared to what these things deliver. Between the two I'd recommend the R02. The R03 might be built slightly better and might look nicer but the R02 delivers virtually the same sound for less money.


    tl;dr:
    Pros: Cheap for what they do; flat sound profile; good separation; quiet wires
    Cons: Very sensitive to badly-mixed music and compression artifacts; you might need to import them (try eBay, though; the import costs might be low)

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  154. SKULL CANDY FTW by KushInMyJ · · Score: 1

    Any SKULL CANDY headphones are awesome exspecialy for their price

  155. Shure SE-215 earbuds by Kazin · · Score: 1

    They're $99 on Amazon, and pretty great. I had some SE-110s before, but on those the cable doesn't go over your ear, so it's pretty prone to being tugged on, and eventually one side failed. The 215s don't have that problem, sound great, and come with a variety of rubber or foam earplug things.

  156. CD3K are legend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CD3K are's legend, and worth every penny. They're hard to find, I believe they stopped production.

    As for Sony, the 7506's are reference for many studios and field recordists. No mention for them yet? And they're around $79. VERY analytical, but with lots of bass.

  157. Aviation headset! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK, granted, they're not cheap, and you need a .250-to-.125 adapter for the headset side, and the microphone side needs a .206-to-.125 adapter that can supply bias voltage (I use 5V from the closest USB port), BUT...

    I have a pair of Lightspeed Aviation 25XLs, and I have to say that it's best and most comfortable headset for any purpose. Gigantic squishy earpads, and severely good ANR. If you rock out in them, you do so in total oblivion of the outside world. If you play Doom in them, about 20 minutes is all you'll be able to take without stopping to pray. And they're two generations old, the new stuff is supposed to be way better.

    Also, you can go flying with them.

  158. Re:Sennheiser HD 202 for $20 by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

    I also have the Sennheiser HD 202 and they are great sounding headphones if a little bit bulky. If you want earbuds, I've been happy with Klipsch's offerings though they sound a bit tinny.

  159. Apple in-ear (not the stock ones) by needsomemoola · · Score: 1

    The best in-ear headphone I've had are Apple's. Not the crap stock ones that come with their devices though. Those leave bruises in my hear-holes (that's the technical term). I get the feeling from reading the rest of this thread that most probably won't agree with me.

    http://store.apple.com/us/product/MA850G/B

    I bought some Beats Tour in-ear headphones (the ridiculously overpriced things you see at Best Buy) thinking something that pricey and with the specs that good on the box, it has to be amazing. The quality of them turned out to be crap though. Nice cable (Monster), but the ear-pieces were strangely shaped. The worse part was the ear-tips were a smooth rubber that didn't breathe, so when you put them in your ear, it sealed it and caused suction in your ear-hole (still technical term). Maybe my anatomy is different from people who like these headphones, but this causes the same affect as when I change elevations quickly (I jump really high) and you have to yawn to fix it. I was "yawning" a lot. These things cost (at the time) $200 after taxes and I couldn't stand them. Don't get me wrong, the sound was decent, with a full frequency response range.

    For my next pair I picked up Apple's nice in-ear set for $80. I was a bit skeptical because it was Apple, which wasn't exactly known for making headphones. The range was fantastic ( 5 Hz to 21 KHz ) and the rubber tips are great. They are a soft rubber material that doesn't cause the suction problem I experienced with the beats headphones.

    On top of solving the suction problem had having amazing range for in-ear, it was also less than half the price of the Beats. It also has a microphone, volume control, and a play/pause button (works with Siri too if you're one of THOSE people (I am)). I use it for both my music and my phone calls. They don't fatigue my ear-holes (technical term) when I'm on a 2-hour conference call, and they are great for air travel too.

    The next best ones I would suggest (if you want in-ear) are the $20 JVC Marshmallow headphones at Walmart. Those are a close second (no mic/volume control).

    Again, this is for in-ear. I know you specifically mentioned they hurt your ears, which is why I generally avoided them. But these were an exception and are now my favorite. :)

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  160. Sennheiser PC 31 at ~$40 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-31-Stereo-Head

  161. SOny MDR-V300 inexpensive and sound fantastic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am on my second pair...these are my all-day at work headphones....closed back, leather ear cup pads breask in nicely. Heavy cord is very durable. My last pair lasted almost a decade. The headphones are very balanced with excellent bass response and are non-tiring. They respond well to custom EQ settings on what ever you listen to. They are billed as Studio Monitor Headphones and work well in that avenue. I have yet to hear any headphone in the $100 class that sound as comfrotable and balanced as these.

  162. Return policy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy them, try them. If you don't like them, you should return them. Most stores have return policies. Even on used audio equipment. Look, even with the 200 products Slashdot users helped you to narrow down onto your shopping list, you're still flying in the dark, so to speak, when you go to try any one of them. My approach? Go into the store, buy any two of the $49. The one I like least, I exchange for a different pair, and so on, until eventually I have two headphones one of which is guaranteed always to be better than any of the others I've tried. I return the other one for a full refund. Took me about 3 months to find out the $20 pair of headphones I have now are about the best I've ever had.

  163. Nuforce earbuds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I own previous generation Nuforce NE-6 earbuds and they sound really great. I got mine for $25. The newer ones rate just as well, the NE600x are the same price and the higher end model NE700x is $65.

    http://www.nuforce.com/hp/reviews-headphones.php

    The only downside seems to be reliability; some report cabling is a little fragile, so don't yank them around a lot. I've had no problems with mine, although I don't use headphones much.

  164. Depends on your usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my case, I was looking for headphones that are good for gaming. With gaming you want a wide soundstage and something that isn't too bass heavy. A wide soundstage lets you to pinpoint where the sound is coming from and you don't want the bass to drown out gunfire.

    I went with the Incipio f38's, which go for about $30 on Amazon. They have the same exact drivers as the more expensive Brainwaz HM3 and the even more expensive Fischer FA-004. All 3 headphones are well regarded over at headfi, especially the Incipio's whose price is very hard to beat. I also attached a Modmic to my Incipio's for voip.

    Here are the two product links:
    http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-NX-100-Hi-Fi-Stereo-Headphones/dp/B005Q311QI
    http://www.amazon.com/AntLion-ModMic-Attachable-Boom-Microphone/dp/B005IT9P3G

  165. JBuds J2 Premium Hi-Fi Noise-Isolating Earbuds -On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hands down the best bang for the buck - you can order over-ear attachments for an extra couple of bucks. The greatest part about these are, when (if) they break - you don't have to be upset over losing an arm and a leg.

  166. Yuin G-Series (G2A matches price limit) by walter_f · · Score: 1

    On-ear (left and right parts have their separate ear-clip), pretty linear characteristics (no particular "bass boosting"), with an analytical, somehow "cool" (as opposed to "warm") output.

    In my opinion, the Yuin G1A and G2A are excellent for classical and voice music, including solo instruments and quartets.
    Enthusiasts of Hard Rock and Heavy Metal would be disappointed, though. They'd rather look elsewhere.

    If your mobile audio device will not drive high impedance earphones, the G2A (low ohm) will do fine.
    Last time I checked, the G2A was $49 in the U.S., around £45 in the U.K.
    One can get Yuins from Hong Kong as well, see the offerings of your preferred auction house on the internet.

    (Most portable devices will need a portable amp to drive the G1A, due to its high impedance. And it is way above the price limit)

    Note: Both the G1A and G2A do *not* isolate the user acoustically, they let pass a good portion of environmental sound (and noise).

  167. What about wireless headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been considering getting wireless headphones so that I can watch TV/play games late at night. I've been considering the Sennheiser RS120. Can anybody recommend anything better or have anything to say about the RS120?

  168. Dare I ask... by Dareth · · Score: 1

    Dare I ask how you really feel about Microsoft mice?

    --

    I only look human.
    My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
  169. AKG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For my money the AKG K272 or others in the AKG line-up.

    I had AKG headphones 40 years ago, and never forgot them. Saw them at a music store and picked them up again. Super comfortable, fantastic sound.

  170. Community headphone reviews website by javaguy · · Score: 1

    http://www.headphonereviews.org/ is non commercial headphone reviews website. There are some editors reviews, but most of the reviews are by users, with reviews by experienced headphone users given more weight than reviews by new members. The site is moderated to keep the review quality high.

    Disclaimer: I own and run the website, and the website covers its costs by getting affiliate revenue from amazon.

  171. sonys and sennys by jamezor · · Score: 1

    1. Sony MDR-V6! 2. Sennheiser HD202 And runner up is Sennheiser HD 25s but they get a bit uncomfortable after more than an 1hr of wearing

  172. Head Mounted Speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have had many headphones and earbuds over the years including several Sennheisers, Etymotic etc. Both of those brands simply fell apart after a few years. The Sennies still sound okay but the cheap crap covering the padding devolves into black dandruff. The Etymotics just fell apart, it is a bit much to call what they use cable or even wire, it's more like thread. For both build quality and sound quality it is definitely Grado and the SR 80's are as good as my Bowers & Wilkins bookshelf speakers - there's a lot more music in the middle range than you will find on most anything else. I suggest you find a good stereo store and try on a pair before you buy anything else.

  173. Grado by cundare · · Score: 1

    You won't quite get in under $50, but Grado has long (like since the 1990s) been known for outstanding quality of its sub-$100 open-air phones. Surprisingdetail, fairly free from colorations and f.r. anomalies, unfatiguing high-end. Not a lot of extension at either end of the response curve, of course, but the bass that is there is tight and detailed (kick drums tend to be percussive, not boomy) and transients have a lot of "snap." The $69 & $79 models are IMO no-brainers in a world where people gladly pay multiples of those figures for horrible, overhyped, bass-heavy products like Dr. Dre's. All the Grado's also boast decent form factors -- light and sturdy, although they're not a foldable, back-pocket type of product. If you can live with going $10 or $20 over your budget, it may not be hard to find more detailed reviews in reputable audio-gear journals. Despite the low price, products in this line havefor decades been considered entry-level audiophile products. IMO, Grado should be the starting point for anyone looking for headphones in this price range. As for me, I purchased a $330 pair of Etymotic canalphones 15 years ago, spent another $100 for custom-molded eartips and will never go back. Nothing short of $4000 Stax electrostatics clearly surpasses them. If you're serious about music, consider saving up some money and picking up a pair. But if you want best bang for your buck, knowledgable audiophiles will all put the Grado SR60 & SR80 near the top of their short lists.

  174. Re:What electronics can you buy new 28 years later by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow it's amazing to see the Porta Pro's still around after all this time! I had a pair in the late 80's and they sounded great! I've had several models of Koss headphones/earbuds and they all sound very good for the price.

  175. Retractable earbuds by virginiajim · · Score: 1

    I only listen to podcasts and prefer retractable earbuds which don't get tangled up in storage. The only place I've found them is China via eBay at a cost $2 or $3 each, incl s/h. Cheap cost is important because I've not had any earbuds that didn't fail from separated wiring within a few months.

  176. OR Hydrogen audio by 0ld_d0g · · Score: 1
  177. Plantronics on the ear by batlbot · · Score: 1

    I've been using these for several years (on my 2nd pair). http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plantronics-Audio-645-USB-Gaming-Headset-Chat-PC-MAC-/370527962583?pt=US_Computer_Headsets&hash=item56453005d7#ht_2020wt_1265 They are cheap, real comfortable on the ears, have a good mic, USB or Stereo jacks, volume and mute on the cord. I have a spare in my cabinet for when this pair breaks (which they all do based on how I use them). By the way, great job to all the knuckleheads who immediately derailed a simple question into politics. ugh.

  178. Grados and Sennheiser HD202s by sprintqv · · Score: 1

    I can vouch for both the Grado's (SR60's in my case) and the Sennheiser HD 202s. I bough both on the recommendations of others and have found the Grado's to be the purest sounding (with no isolation) and reasonably flat with enough isolation to keep out the constant discussions going on around me in my workplace.
    Both are IMHO great value for money.

    The Grados sound best on my diy-upgraded iRiver H320 (CF drive, new battery, Rockbox) - the quality is noticeably better than when I used them on my iPhone 4. Alas, same can be said for my old iMac G5 (smooth Burr-brown audio) vs. my new Macbook Air.

    In the end, buy to your budget - there's some great headphones out there for a reasonable price.