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To add onto my previous comment, MSN is the exact same. Compare MSN's home page http://www.msn.com/, with their search page http://search.msn.com/.

Now could someone please tell me how in the hell you make a proper link on Slashdot? Are you able to do the normal HTML way? (blahblah)

To add onto my previous comment, MSN is the exact same. Compare MSN's home page http://www.msn.com/, with their search page http://search.msn.com/.

Now could someone please tell me how in the hell you make a proper link on Slashdot? Are you able to do the normal HTML way? (blahblah)

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Kahuna, the next version of Windows Live Mail (aka Hotmail) should make you pretty happy. It's much-improved over the current version. See the team's blog for more: http://spaces.msn.com/members/mailcall/

Thanks Richard! We'll miss you.

I know this thread is going to turn into a huge gripe on massive corporations and how corrupt and evil and bad they are... but... considering the company is being publicly humilated, it's stock is trading at half the price it was a 2 years ago, and it's hemorrhaging jobs. I think it's fair to say the free market is correctly punishing this big business that is supposedly "running the world". But that's just me.

If you check this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10394551/ you'll see the problem. That guy is clearly playing Solitaire. You never realized how dangerous that was, did you?

Did the editors even RTFA?

In other news, a Slashdot typo blows a sensational story even further out of proportion.

Here's another article with slightly different information. - via Digg

Well based on the photo that MSN decided to run with on its article, apparently people at the Tokyo stock exchange have a special, Solitare-based GUI for doing stock trades:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10394551/

This image:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/ap/tok11012090345.hmed ium.jpg

Well based on the photo that MSN decided to run with on its article, apparently people at the Tokyo stock exchange have a special, Solitare-based GUI for doing stock trades:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10394551/

This image:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/ap/tok11012090345.hmed ium.jpg

Once again Digg beats /. to the punch, and more accurately all the while.

I would not recommend any doing this unless you just want to have some fun. I think this was a 20 or 30 GB drive. The only problems I had was the Lexan would crack once the drive got hot. I made my swap file drive for Windows and Adobe (don't do this, it makes for really cool movements but also when it crashes and it will it really messes up the OS). The pics were a little later in the drives life; the drive crashed a few weeks after they were posted, but ran for a few months before that. I waited until I had though it would "work forever". You can try to build a clean room all you want, it hardly ever works out. I used giant plastic bags and a whole lot of water on the floor and around the work area. I also used RTV sealant to make the gasket for the Lexan to seal to the drive. As far as why would anyone want to make a clear window on a drive? Why would anyone want to make a tub float on the water? Why would anyone want to make combustible fluid drive a buggy? Why would any sane person want to fly? It is a part of the humans evolution, small steps do equal miles in the long run. It might not seem important right now, but who knows maybe at some point it is the foundation of a new architecture.

http://stj.msn.com/br/om/js/s_code.js
thats actually flagged by anti-spyware programs as a threat
you know ?, from the same company that was involved in the verisign wildcard redirect webbug, and you think Doubleclick is bad,

and they want you to bookmark their site ? , iam more likely to add them to the firewall, the thing isnt even finished yet and already Microsoft want to track and bug your everymove as if cross site cookie exploits are not enough.

Trust is a bitch to regain, anything to do with MSN is a privacy and security risk (see where msie goes to first (only once) after a fresh install on windows) and should be treated with same contempt as they have for you

anything MS do on the web is cold, hence they "dont get it"

--$

1. Dragging feels unnatural and gets stuck. I feel like I have to drag a little, let go, and then drag some more. Don't see what's wrong with the way Google and Yahoo do it.
2. While I can understand why you can't just drag around forever since perspective of the adjancent edges are all different, it would be great if they could make dragging between photos easier so I don't have to scroll up to the upper left to move up or down. Any thoughts on how this could be done more smoothly.
3. There address parsing isn't as good as Google Maps.
4. Even if it wouldn't be seamless, it seems they could still offer the option of scrolling around multiple photos in a mosaic format. Maybe they don't want to break the illusion that you are in this space by allowing you to have a mosaic view of all photos available in an area. Maybe someone can create this (though Microsoft will probably shut it down like Google shut down the Google Maps poster maker).
5. And obviously greater coverage would be much appreciated.

LOL

Microsoft technology...
Lets review the acronymn: Asynchronous Javascript And XML
If there are any here who still beleive this is a 'Microsoft technology' I have a great new news site for you to get your geek news:http://www.msn.com/ .
-ME®

On Monday, chipmaker Intel Corp. said it planned to invest more than $1 billion over the next five years to expand its operations in India and invest in local technology companies.

Cisco Systems Inc. said in October that it plans to spend $1.1 billion in India over the next three years.

Such investments are hoped to expand the market these companies and others will be able to access, hopefully generating greater revenue by the emergence.
I'm thinking CSCO..

Here it's not called ad revenue, it's called payola:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8700936/

obviously you have not been to MSN Search. It is as clean and fast as google.

http://search.msn.com/

What I find interesting is the fact that something like this (an attitude) actually has an article in Wikipedia.

What I find interesting is the fact that somebody thinks my comments were worthy of a troll and flamebait mod. Neither my comments nor the Wikipedia article are either. I used "attitude" tongue-in-cheek, but EE is actually a business practice. If you read the Wikipedia article, you'll see that the author was careful to distinguish that "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" is a claim made by Microsoft critics, rather than presenting it as an actual fact, and that furthermore, though the strategy is attributed by said critics to Microsoft, it has actually been used by dominant players in other industries prior to Microsoft. The Wikipedia article also supplies evidence of Microsoft's EEE tactics that anyone (Microsoft included) can attempt to refute if they so desire. Therefore, the Wikipedia article does not present this as fact, but rather as a claim made by critics, and it points out that as a business strategy EEE does indeed exist, and did before Microsoft ever purportedly used it, and it lists some of Microsoft's business tactics that could qualify as EEE. EEE is not just some random Wikipedia flame by a Linux fanboy, it's widely-known and discussed topic, with multiple pages of references even on Microsoft's own search engine. Finally, this Wikipedia entry is a far cry from baselessly insinuating that someone was involved in the Kennedy assassinations. I'm all for healthy skepticism when referencing Wiki articles, but this one has enough corroboration and recent historical significance that modding me (and the other poster who referenced it in this thread) troll and flamebait is overkill. I hope the metamods read and consider this when evaluating this thread.

Well, you never know. If AOL defaults to http://search.msn.com/ instead of http://www.msn.com/, the UI may be similar enough to Google's that people will use it, not knowing any better.

Don't believe me? Well, they ARE using AOL, aren't they?

Well, you never know. If AOL defaults to http://search.msn.com/ instead of http://www.msn.com/, the UI may be similar enough to Google's that people will use it, not knowing any better.

Don't believe me? Well, they ARE using AOL, aren't they?

Not so "proprietary". Here is the license it uses: Creative Commons, Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5.

Also here is a blog post by its creator if you want to read more about and what it is meant to accomplish without digging through the spec.

Not bad!

Mr. T GPS any day!


Of course, I submitted that as a /. article, but it got rejected(different news site than msnbc though, but I can't find the site I used right now)...ah groussing!

I agree 100% about the lawsuit, pretty cheese ball, but didn't they have a similar problem with the power cords on the regular Xbox's earlier this year. AFAIK for 360 now it's the actual power supply, but you would think there would be more vigorous testing considering the recall earlier this year?

Sorry but its not the first time someone has thought of this.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5387135/ http://www.primidi.com/2004/07/09.html

or just google it for many other results

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mars+gps&btnG =Google+Search

From here

VATICAN CITY - The Vatican's chief astronomer said Friday that "intelligent design" isn't science and doesn't belong in science classrooms, the latest high-ranking Roman Catholic official to enter the evolution debate in the United States.

The Rev. George Coyne, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, said placing intelligent design theory alongside that of evolution in school programs was "wrong" and was akin to mixing apples with oranges.

"Intelligent design isn't science even though it pretends to be," the ANSA news agency quoted Coyne as saying on the sidelines of a conference in Florence. "If you want to teach it in schools, intelligent design should be taught when religion or cultural history is taught, not science."

"The governments of India, China and other emerging markets are very interested in this," Fontaine said. "They don't have the legacy of having everything saved in Microsoft Office to transition from...This is an opportunity to start out right."

What does this statement mean? Did China and India use pen and paper when doing their spreadsheets up until this year?
Article on MS in China: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5197528/site/newsweek

There is not too much info on their website: http://vortexdehydration.com

But the following two articles provide a good summary:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4723367/
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file =article&sid=1312

"People who boast about their IQ are losers."
-Stephen Hawking

You mean MySpace isn't just another front for MSN Spaces?

I mean, at a glance they seem so similar.

It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft sued Google (or vice versa) for this. If not, they might start blocking Google's search bar like they blocked msn.com from Opera.

There are plenty of other resources online that are free:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/
http://encarta.msn.com/

Those are just a few.

The point of my original comment is that Wiki entries are "Open Source". I love open source but disseminating information based on rumor and opinion of the writer is not a good use of open source when the actual intent is to give information based on facts. This is much akin to the media world. Many news stories (much like many Wiki entries) are written by individuals that have already formed a bias about the topic and rather than just state the facts, they allow their personal opinions and feelings skew the entry and thus, skew the facts.

The reader is left, as I stated before, with a mishmash of fact and fiction.

Furthermore, if another user disagrees with a Wiki entry, they can pretty much just change it to reflect their views.

As for your comment that this works for the Internet as a whole, you are correct to a certain degree. However, the difference being, many people are misled in regard to Wiki, thinking it is based wholly on fact purely because of the name they use, specifically the "pedia" portion.

Of course, I have heard people say "I saw/read it on the Internet so it must be true".

I would but they'd have to kill me.
Oh what the hell. I am anonymous...

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5131524/

Can you provide a link to prove that they aren't complete morons?

Didn't think so.

"Intellectually consistent"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4816435/

Orlan is an artist who has taken facial reconstruction to the extremes.

I found an interesting article here from 2004 about the future of face transplants. Apparently they take the face off of a cadavre and then surgically put it on a live person, which makes sense, but as another poster referenced, reminds me of something like silence of the lambs. But if I had to make the choice of having no face/seriously f*d up face, or someone else's...I can't even be sure what I would choose :o

chin up.

Some other reading on the matter: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/05/26/face.tr ansplant/

Ooops, clicked submit before I was done. Here's a link to one of the journalistic investigations into the misspending of the levee board.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9342186/

They were spending money on asphalting roadways and cleaning fuel tanks, even after being warned of likely catastrophe.

Frankly, I'm surprised that you're a local and you don't know about something that the rest of the country considers to be a huge scandal. It does answer the oft-asked question of how the hell your politicians stay in office, though; everybody around here has been scratching their heads over it.

Being a programmer, I like participating in my favorite products' forums. Like, I report a bug, and a couple of days later, it's "fixed in CVS". I only have to recompile, and voila.

Anyway, one thing that is very needed, is the frequent release of products (release early, release often), which is why I love looking at the latest beta's of a product.

However, what I wouldn't like, is having to widthstand an awful beta full of bugs, specially if i can't contact the programmer.
And it's even more frustrating if said "beta" is actually a finished product, like this one or this one.

Haven't you guys been frustrated by the stupid MSN window re-scrolling whenever your buddy types something and you haven't finished reading what you missed? It's a nightmare!

This is why I like beta. At least I expect bugs to be present, and I'm ASSURED that, since it's beta, those bugs will be fixed soon.

And beta is also where the newest features are implemented, and I can say "wow! you rock!" I think Beta is the best part of a software development.

So, it depends. Beta, for open source products, is a dream come true. For closed source products, it's a nightmare.

One statistic to shatter your arguement without bothering with your details:

Half of personal bankruptcies are caused by medical bills

Your arguements are therefore rendered moot by reality.

Prior to then, there were Golf Windows, so really, there is nothing new under the sun.

Pat Morita is dead and this is considered news? Oh, the humanity!

>>the patriot act gave the DOJ to ability to monitor anything when they invoke a terrorism charge.

Except it didn't. Most of the PA just codified existing practice as Slate's four part analysis piece explains.

What parts were more radical (215) have been struck down as unconstitutional as can be seen on the EFF's (join EFF now!! the sky is falling!!) Patriot Act webpage.
One might want to notice that the PA renewal substantially weakened govt power while demanding new accountability.

Don't let the facts stop a good bout of paranoia. It is more fun to pretend that life is a black and white cyberpunk airport thriller novel than to recognize shades of gray. It makes us feel more important.

Attention slashbots: your next move is the slippery slope. In which you argue that searches approved by judges aren't bad but searches not approved are and therefore we need to freak out about about warranted searches because they might lead to unwarranted searches.

So if a company starts using RFID tags in their clothing http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4873013/ then it's POSSIBLE that the tivo remote control reads those RFID tags to then provide feedback to the TiVo box which then uplinks to the main network that you are wearing Levi Jeans and a corresponding ad appears on your TV...

Your remote control is now big brother...

Aloha!

The machine was invented by Danny Hillis (of Thinking Machines and Long Now fame) and the other good folks at Applied Minds:
http://www.appliedminds.com/

Good interview that among other things describes the device in question:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9558120/site/newsweek/

Saw it linked on www.venganza.org

I do not know how to have a HTTP page, and a HTTPS Javascript transaction.

This is just a wild, totally unconfirmed guess, but it might be JavaScript security blocking the call because it's going to a different server. I believe http://www.foobar.com/ and https://www.foobar.com/ are as different as http://www.google.com/ and http://www.msn.com/ as far as JavaScript is concerned.

Using Windows under a non-priviledged account other then for office and some well-behaved business apps is completely unpractical. And Microsoft does not even follow their own best practices, either. Check out this gem Microsoft saying you should be admin and lower browser security settings to chat on their stupid site.

Also Windows and Microsoft's programs tend to degrade very badly if they encounter access denied errors. For example I tried to run SQL Server once under a limited account, it was a total nightmare with unclear errors all over the place.

The parent is a typical Slashbot kneejerk post, that adds nothing that we haven't heard for the last decade.

It is especially juvenile considering the original statement from Ozzie specifically called out that a goal was to work with non-Microsoft products.

"We brainstormed about this "meshed world" and how we might best serve it - a world where each of these products and others' products could both manage these objects and synchronize each others' changes"
http://spaces.msn.com/members/rayozzie/Blog/cns!1p yct_cYtbBtOBPDVAumMEdw!175.entry

MS: "I like oranges"
You: "I think what you really mean was.. you don't like oranges!" bwahahaha, high five guys!
Slashdot: Burn! Man, that was insightful! High five!

The odds of you going to jail are inversely proportional to your wealth and directly proportional to the blackness of your skin,

Phew... Cosby must be worried: is he richer than he is black, or blacker than he is rich?!

Justin.