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Nokia 7600 looks good but I am getting this one:
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Nokia 7600 looks good but I am getting this one:
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You forgot to mention #4:

4. It's fugly!

While this won't even get consideration, I'm holding off on the Treo, Kyocera, Blackberra combos for now... Why? The Samsung SPH-i500 Smartphone w/Palm OS 5.x is why.

Samsung SPH-i500 Features

Samsung Palm OS 5 Smartphone Announcement

Unfortunately service is only offered from Sprint right now, but that should change soon.

-r

I've heard that you can use Graffiti with the Treo 270, 300, and 600. Also, the a technique that allows you to...
Replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti

Even though this Nokia phone looks good but I would spend my $$ on this one:

Handspring Treo 600 Getting Closer

The story behind it's design

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More info on how it will look like

Treo 600 in Europe next week?

Future Phones/PDA's

Even though this Nokia phone looks good but I would spend my $$ on this one:

Handspring Treo 600 Getting Closer

The story behind it's design

More images

Another image

More info on how it will look like

Treo 600 in Europe next week?

Future Phones/PDA's

Even though this Nokia phone looks good but I would spend my $$ on this one:

Handspring Treo 600 Getting Closer

The story behind it's design

More images

Another image

More info on how it will look like

Treo 600 in Europe next week?

Future Phones/PDA's

Somtimes I wonder if Sony annonced the chipset development just to prevent anyone else from trying...

Think about the implications for wearable computing.

PDA+Linux+2_gig_cf_card+UHF_reciever_card+tiny_pin _UHF_transimit_camera

=real_life_video_log_for less_than_$2000

The new name is characterized in two colors - deep red for the word "palm" and vibrant orange for "One," reflecting the subbrand colors for the company's Tungsten line of solutions for mobile professionals and business and its Zire line of solutions for consumers and multimedia enthusiasts, respectively. The lower-case treatment of the company name gives the word "palm" visual emphasis.
If you visit Palm's (whoops, palmOne's) product page you'll notice that they this is actually true, Zire is orange and Tungsten is red. It's too bad they look sorta garish when juxtaposed next to each other.

Zire 21, Tungsten E, and Tungsten T3 (that might be a spring release) are all lined up for release soon! At least palmone seems to be back on track.

I disagree... there are no serifs on any of the other letters in their logo. Someone was trying to go for the numeral reference.

Plus, the "p" is lowercase, which is somewhat odd. (Of course, whether they were purposely going for leetspeak or not is unknown, of course.)

more information from including the logo....my favorite quote

"The new name is characterized in two colors - deep red for the word 'palm' and vibrant orange for 'One,' reflecting the subbrand colors for the company's Tungsten line of solutions for mobile professionals and business and its Zire line of solutions for consumers and multimedia enthusiasts, respectively."

Come on, from Pro/Personal, III, V, Zire, Tungston, m, these guys have changed branding more often than their underwear. This is what they want to bank on?

No explanation given for the lame l->1 conversion.

The landscape form factor makes it look bigger than it really is. Check these stats out:

• Sony UX50: 103.0 x 86.5 x 17.9 mm
• Sony NX80V: 131.5 x 71.9 x 21.8 mm
• Palm Tungsten T: 101.6 x 75.0 x 15.2 mm (closed)

It's a little "wider" than most PDAs, but it's only marginally larger in the other dimensions than a T|T, which is pretty darned small. palminfocenter.com has a picture of a Sony executive holding up a UX50 "prototype". In context, it looks rather normal-sized.

Clamshell Clie

http://www.palminfocenter.com/ss.asp?f=img_treo600 _large.jpg

Palm certainly doesn't want Handspring for their Visor line. There isn't much value to that. I don't believe there is anything on the Handspring Visor line has that Palm doesn't already have or couldn't add on their own.

In fact, Handspring announced in January 2002 that they would discontinue the Visor line when they were coming out with their Treo Communicator (cell phone) line. My guess is that Palm wants to get into the cell phone business. What else does Handspring have to offer? Would you want a Palm branded reconditioned Handspring Visor?

mystery investor loans palm $50 million:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=27 29

sony invests $20 million in palmsource:
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Sony_Invests_in_ PalmSource

now, palm is going to buy handspring for $169 million:
http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/230-1.h tm

wild.

another fun fact, more people own sony aibo robot dogs than handspring treos.

cheers,
pt

I disagree on *better screens*. At my local linux group I remember looking at another blokes *handspring* and the screen just looked crappy compared to my old PIII. Placing them side by side I could not adjust to the Handspring screen refresh. The text looked real blurry.

The Tungsten T was just dropped to $350, plus you can return your Palm Vx for a $50 rebate. Some places like Best Buy and Amazon are offering the unit for less than retail.

More info at Palm Infocenter.

Also, you can get the bluetooth adaptor from expansys and get your TCP/IP on (OSX Win32)

strange, the OSX solution is free. hmm.

If you want to do business stuff (such as Internet, in this case), get a Palm Pilot or something.

Apparently Palm Pilot (well, Palm OS) is for games too. See This story on a forthcoming PalmOS-based gaming device from Tapwave. It's also expected to have all of Palm OS' usual PIM applications. But it's not due for at least another six months, and the fact that its specifications are better than most high-end Palm OS devices out now gives a suggestion of vapourware.

Soon there'll be another way to fake a hard day at the office.

I disagree. They deserve to buy a load of shares in Palm, or maybe NTL.

• Analog controller, integrated triggers and a full complement of action buttons
  
• High-resolution 480 x 320 pixel screen, with portrait or landscape-mode display
  
• All-inclusive gaming environment with the Fathammer X-Forge 3D Game Engine
  
• Rumble effects
  

This was just a mock up prototype shown at CeBit and not an actual working device. It is also shown in the MS Duo format, but sony has been showing off these kind of memory stick mock ups for years. While it was a non working model, sony has developed the chips in a size that would make this feasible, only problem is battery draw. There arw more specs on the device here.

Here is the original leak, and here is one for sale on Ebay. The thing is supposed to retail for $499 on the 25th, but some dumbass is willing to pay an extra $300 to get it a couple days earlier. Anyway, Quill Corp, Amazon, and Staples all jumped the gun with listings for the product but have since removed them.

I for one am going to snap one up on Wednesday. It's got a hi-res color display, 64MB of RAM, a thumbboard (which I like), a 400MHz Intel XScale chip, no exterior antenna, and best of all... 802.11b. (No, damn it, I don't want to pay a stupid monthly bill for your wireless service when I can get it just about anywhere I work away from the office.)

This is probably used for the new Tungsten C (to be released at the end of this month, so they say). In addition to integrated WiFi (w00t!) and a 400 MHz processor, it's also said to include at least 32 MB RAM.

SanDisk has also apparently announced 512MB and 1GB SD cards at CeBIT, which you can read about here, and PDA France has some coverage of it, too, but... it's all in french, heh.

wrong. When no one has any mp3's to save, there is no need for huge amounts of memory. Music playback will be limited to Sony's DRM, dog-robot music. All your mp3 are belong to us.

The RIAA has announced that it demands that Sony change this screen image to more accurately reflect what MP3s represent to the music industry. That REP OFF must be changed to RIP OFF.

The newest version of the PalmOS, version 5, allows PalmOS devices to have more than 16MB of RAM. But so far only the Garmin iQue 3600 has added more RAM. As drool-worthy as all of the NZ90's stats are, the measely 16MB (only 11MB of which are available to the user) feel like a deal breaker. Granted the Memory Stick slot makes the extra RAM less necessary but still....

The GPS PDA is one of the first devices to contain the new DragonBall MXL (MC9328MXL), according to this.

Its ARM9-based, is 150mhz and does 150mips. Doesn't sound like much, but its only US$10.30 in "low volumes". It has an MMU so it would run linux. I'd like a cheap, small, LART style computer with some useful IO (ethernet, serial ports etc) I can run linux on and generally hack about with. This seems like an ideal CPU (shame it doesn't have integrated ethernet though).

Infosync has a pretty picture of this phone.

The small size is very tempting but I'm afraid that this is a case where small is too small. There is no physical keyboard or keypad -- one or the other is necessary for a real phone. The phone is also running Windows CE with a proprietary shell which means that it won't run PocketPC applications. In fact, little or no third-party applications are likely to be available unless it becomes very popular. It's storage (16MB with an SD slot) and battery life are nice.

I think I'll keep my Treo for now. But the Kyocera 7135 is a very nice alternative with a more traditional form factor.

2002-12-04 16:18:01 Ogg Player for Palm Tungsten T (articles,pilot) (rejected)

As reported by Palm InfoCenter, "A group calling themselves Aerodrome Software have released a public beta of an Ogg/Vorbis media player for the Palm Tunsgten T handheld. The player inititally supports only ogg/vorbis encoded files, a new open source audio format, but promises to have mp3 support in the near future."

I'm curious as to whether they used the integer-based "Tremor" code to achieve this.

No, in fact, check out this detail from Palm Infocenter's Review of the Tungsten T:

"Palm realizes that this design decision is a potential source of failure (and therefore costly warranty issues) and has taken pains to ensure that it will be very reliable. Part of their design criteria included passing a 100,000 open/close test cycle. (To put that in practical terms, even if you open and close the device 3 times an hour, 16 hours a day, the slider should provide at least 6 years of faithful service.)"

I'm not sure about the Sharp Zaurus but I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar. I think some people like to think they are smarter than the engineers who design this hardware, but it is baffling to me to think that you would really believe that the people at Palm would design that sliding mechanism on the Tungsten T without even thinking about the issue of how much stress it would handle.

-Tom

I sent my old Palm IIIe to pasture, and stepped up to a hot young Sony Clié SJ30. 8 times the memory, quadruple the resolution, 65,000 available colors, MemoryStick slot, Jog Wheel.. $250 bucks without cradle.

And I don't feel one bit guilty about it.

The official press release,/a> can also be found at Palm Info Center.

Maybe you need to look at the upcoming Tungsten line, which will include wireless services built-in. The Tungsten T is rumored to come with built-in Bluetooth, while the Tungsten W is a smartphone which uses GPRS/GSM networks; it is primarily data-centric (internet/email), but can function as a phone. The Tungsten models will be available on October 28th.

Nanoox

Maybe you need to look at the upcoming Tungsten line, which will include wireless services built-in. The Tungsten T is rumored to come with built-in Bluetooth, while the Tungsten W is a smartphone which uses GPRS/GSM networks; it is primarily data-centric (internet/email), but can function as a phone. The Tungsten models will be available on October 28th.

Nanoox

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My m500 will email, lightweight browse, play games, help me remember stuff and run a multitude of small, useful apps. Frankly, I don't consider MS Word or MS Excel to be something I want on my PDA. I want those on a laptop. A PDA to me is a personal digital assistant. All the WinCE (or XP Embedded or whatever) thingies do what I need and more, but with shorter battery life and added weight. For me, the m500 is great.

Oh. By the way. Product development since then? Zero, zip, niente, nada de nada.. You are wrong. As simple as that.

I see they`ve taken alot from the Sony Clie`s design.
If I may quote the linked article: Yesterday's ZDnet article on this model mentioned that Palm had hired some designers from Sony to help design this model. Some people have misinterpreted this to mean that Sony officially helped Palm design the Tungsten T, which is not the case. A Sony spokesperson confirmed that his company had nothing to do with the design. Palm did hire some designers away from it but Sony wasn't cooperating in any way.
I guess, with yesterday's ZDnet article they meant this one.
On the linked page, there is one discussion around display (excellent on Sony models) vs battery life (where Palm is outstanding). My current Palm V gives me approximately 3 weeks. If I'd get one with crisp color display that has a battery life of at least 2 weeks at normal use, I'd be convinced and rush out to buy one...

HARDBALL!! and its only $100

compare to this, that smartphone looks like an old nanny.

Palm is deciding on how to copenstate m130 owners.. also they give a technical explaination of how the screen works... all avalible at the PalmInfoCenter.com

Apparently this debate has been going on a long time... Palm info center has a good article about it... And the PIC forum where the debate first broke.

Apparently this debate has been going on a long time... Palm info center has a good article about it... And the PIC forum where the debate first broke.

WTF is with all the uninformed FUD flying around here?

They did not ship the wrong cradle. The original cradle had a defect, and was replaced by the E cradle. The defect is called SUDS (Suddenly USB Doesn't Sync), read about it here. It is caused by static electricity, and has a workaround (full battery drain, then recharge, the unit will then be able to sync).

The hardware put out by palm has a history of problems. The 505 sync problem is the latest in a long history (the 515 was released just to fix this.) You can read about the 505 problem at this site.

Their customer service is also famous for losing returned palms, dropping orders off the face of the earth, and just generally makin unhappy customers even more unhappy. Just check out google groups on this, and you'll find tons of legit complaints against this company.

This OS is ok, however. The hardware just plain sucks.

Go to Palm Info Center, They have the story.

PDA live is run by an unscrupolis [sp] editor who likes to plagerize Ed from PIC. Patronize the real Palm OS news site!

Nice pic here

• PalmOS5 will be out soon and that's the only truth this guy included in his post. However, this fact is pretty overrated. PDA's are not bought for their upgradability (or if they are, they are by stupid people); in fact, although most PDA's are upgradable today very few people actually upgrade them. The only PDA so far that has had a major upgrade released for it is the Compaq Ipaq, and there have been many problems with it. When you buy your PDA, buy it for what it can do out of the box, not what it can do in the future.
• ALL apps support Sony's 320x320 resolution. If there's some bad programming in the app you can reset the Clie to work as if it were 160x160 resolution. If you mean few apps are built especially for Sony's 320x320 resolution, you're wrong again. It took a few months, but most popular apps are made especially for Sony's hi-res, including even many games. Even though the NR-series has only been out in the US for days, there are already programs popping up for the 480x320 resolution (which can still run any program ever fine).
• It has approximately the same battery life as PPC devices. If you're waiting for PalmOS5 devices, you'll see around the same battery life, if not less.
• The Memory Stick is the smallest flash media device available except for the extremely expensive Secure Digital format. Memory Sticks used to be expensive, but they're now about the same as Compact Flash. Note that Palm and PPC devices use the much more expensive SD (Secure Digital) format. Memory Stick and Secure Digital both have 128mb limits at the moment, so you're "does not hold too much data" argument is moot. Memory Stick is also not any more proprietary than the main competitor, Secure Digital. Sony was the developer of Memory Stick and pushes it, just like Panasonic (along with Toshiba) developed Secure Digital and pushes that. Both formats charge fairly large license fees. Non-Sony products are popping up all over that use Memory Sticks (especially in Japan). Portable and set-top DVD players, car stereos, and even Sony's next-gen WEGA Tv's have memory stick slots.
• Sony has pretty much dropped MagicGate and ATRAC3 outside of asia. You don't need to touch either of these to get everything out of a clie.
• Um, yes there are Stowaway keyboards for your Sony, and GPS devices for your clie, including one made by Sony themselves. There are plenty of accessories for Clies, which is the third biggest seller of PDA's in the United States. Handspring is dropping market share fast, so it won't be long until Sony is #2.
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  Sony makes the best Palm-based PDA's. The only downside to the NR-series, in my opinion, is the size (which isn't as big as Pocket PC's or even some PalmOS units, but is bigger than, say, Sony's T-series).