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The device as a layer of physical hardware in a USB device has been posted as a pic as part of the COTTONMOUTH I and II effort.
http://www.dailytech.com/Tax+and+Spy+How+the+NSA+Can+Hack+Any+American+Stores+Data+15+Years/article34010.htm (scroll down for the slide)
What it sends out to?
The usual new spy "rocks" or some other "network"
http://rt.com/usa/spy-rocks-lockheed-usa-771/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jan/19/fake-rock-plot-spy-russians

Netflix, in its old life as a small Blockbuster-fighting DVD-maiing rebel is already dead, after a bout of insanity in apparent pursuit of dark knowledge and money. Its current form, ostensibly an independent being but truly a zombie* raised by the vile magicks of Big Media, aims for exclusive deals with cable providers (who just happen to be ISPs) and to make its own content** as an excuse to lobby for tougher copyright. I would avoid touching the shambling corpse, lest you come down with something and be damned to eternal unrest, availability excuses that involve repeated chants of "distributors", "market segmentation", and "contracts", and high fees.

*It didn't quite manage lichform, but almost certainly tried.

**Which would lead to the whole "doing DRM'd streaming video by breaking HTML5 with DRM-friendly extensions" thing, if HTML5 was a stable or good standard in any sense but name.

A somewhat minor nitpick, but...

It is generally thought that Paranthropus bosei is an /offshoot/ of the line that ultimately led to modern man, not a direct ancestor. We share ancestors, but do not descend from his line. The two lines diverged about 3 million years ago to follow their own evolutionary paths - homo towards an omnivorous diet and world domination, panthropus to munching on nuts and extinction.

He was a relative, not an ancestor.

Plus it is pretty iffy to base too many conclusions on a handful of skeletons (or in the case of such old homonids it's usually skeletal fragments). If archaeologists of the future only had five 20th century human skeletons available that were all found in the general area that used to be New York they might conclude that most humans of the 20th century were over weight and lived off a meat rich diet. If those five skeletons came from the horn of Africa they would conclude that during the 20th century the human race suffered from frequent famines. If the five skeletons came from the graveyard of a vegan colony they'd conclude humans of the 20th century were predominantly vegan. If the discoveries in Dmanisi, Georgia have taught us anything it is that one should not base too many sweeping conclusions on a handful of samples.
http://rt.com/news/skull-homo-georgia-species-373/

A somewhat minor nitpick, but...

It is generally thought that Paranthropus bosei is an /offshoot/ of the line that ultimately led to modern man, not a direct ancestor. We share ancestors, but do not descend from his line. The two lines diverged about 3 million years ago to follow their own evolutionary paths - homo towards an omnivorous diet and world domination, panthropus to munching on nuts and extinction.

He was a relative, not an ancestor.

Plus it is pretty iffy to base too many conclusions on a handful of skeletons (or in the case of such old homonids it's usually skeletal fragments). If archaeologists of the future only had five 20th century human skeletons available that were all found in the general area that used to be New York they might conclude that most humans of the 20th century were over weight and lived off a meat rich diet. If those five skeletons came from the horn of Africa they would conclude that during the 20th century the human race suffered from frequent famines. If the five skeletons came from the graveyard of a vegan colony they'd conclude humans of the 20th century were predominantly vegan. If the discoveries in Dmanisi, Georgia have taught us anything it is that one should not base too many sweeping conclusions on a handful of samples.
http://rt.com/news/skull-homo-georgia-species-373/

We're not dumb. At least provide a link that has a description or diagram of how they're planning to do this.

http://rt.com/news/winter-snow-russia-weather-275/

Not near as bad as the pics from a couple years ago, tho. (Which I couldn't find offhand, but...)

And those doors on the 2nd floor of older buildings in West Yellowstone are not for decoration, either.

It's about time the US police exerts their power to search every laptop within 100 miles of the border to include every member of congress.
And the president.

If you want to argue about the safety of oil transport then I'll have that argument. I'd then demonstrate the statistical safety, low cost, and minimal carbon output of nuclear power.

Nuclear power has an intrinsic government subsidy that you (and all nuclear advocates) ignore: disaster insurance

Insurance available to the operators of nuclear power plants varies by nation. The worst case nuclear accident costs are so large that it would be difficult for the private insurance industry to carry the size of the risk, and the premium cost of full insurance would make nuclear energy uneconomic.

The next paragraph says the same about installations like dams, but you made a blanket statement about nuclear power, and I'm addressing that topic.

For a real world example, what is the cost of the Fukushima disaster? I suspect that this question literally has no answer, since there are so many unknowns in dealing with the aftermath. One figure is $58 billion. I suspect this is wildly optimistic, since every evaluation to come out of official channels in Japan has been that way since the earthquake hit. Other values are $100 billion and $250 billion. Some of this variation may be due to what is considered a direct cost vs. what is being ignored.

To give some perspective of how things are being managed, consider this recent report on labor used for the cleanup

In January, October and November, Japanese gangsters were arrested on charges of infiltrating construction giant Obayashi Corp's network of decontamination subcontractors and illegally sending workers to the government-funded project.

In the October case, homeless men were rounded up at Sendai's train station by Sasa, then put to work clearing radioactive soil and debris in Fukushima City for less than minimum wage, according to police and accounts of those involved. The men reported up through a chain of three other companies to Obayashi, Japan's second-largest construction company.

Do you expect that homeless exploited workers who suffer from exposure to radiation and other environmental toxins will be accurately accounted for in the cost of the cleanup? Does this give you any confidence that the cleanup process itself is going to be done correctly, even with a multibillion dollar price tag?

And remember, the disaster isn't over yet. Of the four units that had explosions, two of them have not had a survey of reactor damage because no technology exists that can stand up to the radiation. They could be going through a process that could release more radiation and the only way we would find is is when it happens. Speaking of which: steam of unknown origin is coming out of Unit 3.

Fresh plumes of most probably radioactive steam have been detected rising from the reactor 3 building at the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant, said the facility’s operator company.

The steam has been detected by surveillance cameras and appeared to be coming from the fifth floor of the mostly-destroyed building housing crippled reactor 3, according to Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO), the plant’s operator.

This started on Dec 24, i.e. last week, and is continuing intermittently. It could be rain water contacting surfaces heated by radioactive decay, or an early warning of the damaged core or fuel pool becoming critical.

from right here in our shirtsleeves sitting at a computer desk. I wonder why going up 0.1 Earth radii to stay within the Earth's atmosphere is "exploring space"...

... Earth is 500,000 year over-due for a magnetic pole flip.

...

Overdue?

Sorry, happened today: http://rt.com/news/sun-upside-down-flip-990/

And look, we are still here. My internet still works.

Oh, happy new years

Are you sure that there aren't prisoners for political "offenses"? And that not counting other ways of get rid of people making trouble

Metadata provided color of law cover in the USA for the NSA to try and offer parallel construction under a vast domestic surveillance.
Once before an open US court, ideas like collection of phone metadata become legally difficult.
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/federal-judge-rules-against-nsa
http://rt.com/usa/at&t-phone-surveillance-dea-325/ Hemisphere was also interesting reading :)

I'd like to see a plan to reduce these threats forever . . . so we can go back to our normal ways, before the war. Now, it seems that we are preparing for an endless war on terrorism.

What if I told you the threat of terrorism was so low even lightning strikes or falling down in the bathtub are more serious threats to American lives?

9/11 killed one sixth the number of people who die from the flu every year! That means since 9/11 the flu has proven 60 times more dangerous than terrorists. Accidents and heart disease kill 400 times more people every year than a 9/11 scale attack. We need proportional protection from threats. 1/6th or 1/60th of what we spend on anti-flu vaccines should be spent on anti-terrorism. The threat is just a fear narrative to get the people to do whatever the government wants. You accept that life is dangerous when you drive to a fast food restaurant, and face a far greater risk than terrorism yet we demand no War on Cheeseburgers and Cars. The war on terror will end when the people stop being afraid of pathetic threats. Accept the risk of being free. It is minimal compared to every other threat you face.

We don't need the wiretapping spying at all. Omnivore, Carnivore, ECHELON, and PRISM's Room 641A existed BEFORE 9/11. The NSA's spying apparatus has failed to prevent every terrorist attack since the 60's, including 9/11. We gave them more powers and they failed to prevent the Boston Marathon Bombing.

The spying programs are expensive and useless for the protection of American lives. It's too easy to track the tax funds so the CIA gets a large portion of its black-ops money through investments. The cold war machine lost its raison d'etre, and like any business or other cybernetic being it didn't want to die. So in order to keep itself fed with massive funds the spying apparatus must manufacture threats to deceive the public with. There was never a suspicion of WMD's there was only the need for a threat narrative to fuel a war machine. Just like Vietnam, Just like McCarthyism, The Red Scare, etc. There is no threat to us anymore from countries defined by borders since we have mutually assured nuclear destruction.

The National Reconnaissance Office gifted NASA two Hubble Sized spy satellites because they're launching far more impressive spy satellites with the biggest rockets in the world. Hubbles aimed at Earth! That's PLENTY of spying capability to be content with. No force on Earth can move against us without us knowing instantly, the wiretap spying isn't needed at all. If the flu, cars, and cheeseburgers are a more serious threat than terrorism, but domestic spying can yield information that can be used for insider trading, and that's how black-ops are funded...

Occam's Razor says Snowden is right: "These programs were never about terrorism: they’re about economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation. They’re about power."

Citizens have changed from collateral damage into the prime targets themselves in the new age cold war. Borders are largely safe now. The developing world is used as the outlet to expend the war machines output. Great stockpiles of the machines of war are burned to make room for new spending. Black-ops instigates new proxy wars. The CIA carries out economic warfare at the behest of Corpora

This president will give him 3 hots and a cot.

Rosa Parks didn't flee from the bus when the police came for her; She sat right there and waited.

She didn't have to worry about extraordinary rendition to an extraterritorial prison like Gitmo, where case law has indicated that constitutional guarantees don't apply. He would potentially have to also worry about being killed by the U.S. government outright, as other U.S. citizens have been, for example, in Afghanistan without due process of law: http://rt.com/usa/us-government-drone-killing-660/

When Alabama told Martin Luther King they would arrest him if he marched, he marched anyway, and then got arrested.

And then was assassinated as soon as it was convenient, afterwards.

Or did you miss the story about the NHS killing off 130,000 elderly patients a year?

In fact, UK doctors get a £50 bonus for putting patients on the "Liverpool care Pathway," i.e. pain medication, but no attempt to prolong the patient's life.

The same is true in many other EU countries,

None of the google results for me were anything that a standard food service permit wouldn't cover. You may not have noticed but most Starbucks stores aren't only open a maximum of twice a year because those permits aren't in fact restricted to a maximum of twice a year.

So what's the reference for your case and the paranoid rantings that followed?

The part about the "twice a year" restriction is referring to the permit needed to do this outdoors at a public location like a park, which is separate from a food service (restaurant) permit.

The government is insisting that those trying to feed the homeless secure a building for food preparation and service and otherwise invest the same large amounts of money and pay the same costs and obey all the same rules that a commercial "for-profit" sit-down restaurant would, without the ability to earn money from the free food to ameliorate costs, making it so extremely costly that it's impractical to do.

It's a practical proscription-in-all-but-name by thousands of regulations, codes, fees, permits, inspections, ordnances, and laws enforced to the letter.

Here's a few links to related information.

http://rt.com/usa/north-carolina-police-arrest-homeless-019/

http://www.foodnotbombs.net/fnb_resists.html

http://www.npr.org/2013/09/05/218891324/more-cities-sweeping-homeless-into-less-prominent-areas

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/19/bloomberg-strikes-again-nyc-bans-food-donations-to-the-homeless/

If you can't see any problems with government behavior and laws/regs/ordnances/policies here, then there's really nothing I or anyone else can say to you.

Strat

Very little was actually built; just enough to make the thing seem legit.

See here:

http://rt.com/politics/russian-chief-star-wars-762/

The government on the other hand can imprison me, force me to implicate friends, blackmail me, or even torture and kill me.

I thought they contracted out a lot of that to private companies. Sort of like how Snowden didn't work for the NSA. Who else do these companies work for?

How funny, yesterday I posted that link on usenet, in response to somebody posting http://on.rt.com/4h0u9g

> What percentage of police do you suppose are criminals?

Let's not fool ourselves. About the same percentage as the population. Plus a smaller percentage who are attracted to the power, because of what they can do with that power. So on the average, probably a higher percentage than the proles.

We need to understand. Cops are just people. Government officials are just people. Congresspeople are just people. They have no better moral compass than the population, and on average may have worse, because the attraction of naked power tends to filter out the wheat and keep the chaff. (And this goes for both parties, if you live in the US.) Please remember that the next time you vote to have a government official manage some new part of your life.

Oh, and before anyone asks about the mobile phone paranoia, I should also add that some companies are already monetising your use of mobile phones and your movements. Expect this to become far more commonplace in the next few years.

Slippery slope fallacy. The government has the ability to execute, but it doesn't execute everyone.

The current Administration has argued that it can kill anyone on US soil for any reason it deems to be "vital to national security". That includes execution of US citizens, on US soil, without a trial or even grand jury convened. And the current Administration has admitted to at least 4 US citizens without a trial or grand jury convened.

Slippery slope? We've fallen nearly to the bottom of the slope already.

" And so far, we've seen no evidence whatsoever there's any contrition or accepting that what they did was going to piss off everyone else."

Stratfor hacker Jeremy Hammond sentenced to ten years in jail

I'd say sneering contempt rather than contrition.

Yes you can see the sock puppets all over slashdot still trying the same old tricks to shift the truth.
Its legal, think of the hardware needed for storage, others do it... you still have most of your rights most of the time...
The next step with be many more http://rt.com/usa/smith-mundt-domestic-propaganda-121/ type news options with in the USA.
From a domestic spy network to domestic lies on all networks :)

Wikileaks has leaked the secret text TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership). It reveals the TPP creates patents on surgery, limits access to medine, makes patents broader and tougher, extends copyright even longer, restricts fair use, makes damages even larger makes circumventing DRM illegal (but with exemptions for government spying) and creates a parallel judicial system for prosecuting IP infringement.

Wikileaks has leaked the secret text TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership). It reveals the TPP creates patents on surgery, limits access to medine, makes patents broader and tougher, extends copyright even longer, restricts fair use, makes damages even larger makes circumventing DRM illegal (but with exemptions for government spying) and creates a parallel judicial system for prosecuting IP infringement.

Hell, when I think about it, using P = 0.05 goes back to my Dad's time, when he was using a slide rule while designing engine parts for the SR-71 Blackbird. That was back in the 1950s and '60s. We should have come a long way since then. But have we?

In engineering? Yes. Science? Well...

It seems strange that this kind of data isn't already publicly available. Putting it on a website is certainly more efficient... wait, HealthCare.gov.. well, maybe it'll be more efficient, it's a different department. But what bothers me is the illness portion of it, are they talking flu or incidents of cancer? If it's the latter then they need to first publish the information about the TSA employees in Boston and possible radiation exposure due to nudeo scanners. Of course the TSA says "uh huh" and says there's no correlation. Having the raw data of TSA employees and incidents of cancers or other diseases in comparison to the general population
would help in either affirming or putting to rest that what these folks are doing is not harming their health or the health of the traveling public. I would also carry it into the various branches of the Military as well and not just look towards the private sector as being the worst offenders when in fact some of our weapon systems have been know to kill our own members of the military. So, if they're going to do it, do it across the board and don't just single out private industry..

No the problem is US populations cowardice, where it has allowed itself to be terrorised that allowed this to happen, quite ironic even with all those guns.

No, the problem is not one of cowardice. Remember "Let's roll"? The many stories of bravery by 9/11 emergency responders? All the stunning examples of bravery and sacrifice by our young soldiers?

The problem is the results of a longterm program of propaganda and subversion, destruction of the family unit, destruction of pillars of common moral underpinnings, indoctrination-instead-of-education systems, and other attacks designed to divide, destabilize, encourage illiteracy & ignorance of history, and disenfranchise the population from within, which started at least 60+ years ago.

Actually, it's roots go back to Woodrow Wilson and Edward Bernays.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

The US recently officially ended a longstanding ban against domestic use of the US government's foreign propaganda apparatus against US citizens.

http://rt.com/usa/smith-mundt-domestic-propaganda-121/

The government has been carefully and scientifically managing the emotional state of the population for decades, allowing them to gradually "boil the frogs" without a revolt until they are no longer capable of being any serious threat to their grab for ultimate power and control.

When the impending US economic/monetary collapse and accompanying food and other shortages occurs and causes chaos, I fully expect to see the government launch an attempt to forcibly complete the transformation to a full police state.

Strat

Put up or shut up. Show me something he blew the whistle on that wasn't wrong.

He told China about how we were spying on them. According to the interviews, he revealed targets and methods. That's harmful to the US government, US citizens, the US economy, and US interests in general.
If you don't think the US and China are hostile powers, you are an idiot.

Pentagon's DARPA works on reading brains in real time

http://rt.com/usa/darpa-pentagon-reading-brain-860/

And you call people paranoid who claim others can read your mind.

Chemical imbalance? Or do we have gov 'monitors' everywhere testing this tech as it develops on a scale similar to or more than COINTELPRO?

Why, too lazy to look it up yourself?

Here's one: NSA whistleblowers: Government spying on every single American

A full year before Edward Snowden.

I remember showing that article to some friends of mine, people who were deeply involved with government work. They laughed at me and called me paranoid and gullible. Sure sucks when the tinfoil-hat crowd is right.

I remember reading about these NSA revelations years before Edward Snowden disclosed them...on the Russian Times web site.

Guess we'll have to go back to relying on the Russian press to defend freedom and print the truth.

Ugh...I think I just threw up in my mouth.

Whats a matter Onyxruby, cat got your tongue after the AC posted the link?
Awfully quiet from you. (not that we are complaining when a shill shuts up).

http://rt.com/usa/microsoft-nsa-snowden-leak-971/

Funny you should mention Edward Snowden revealing information about Microsoft and the NSA

I wonder, if the NSA (with their own bugs) has anonymously helped FTC prosecute this case the way they help ATF, DEA, and even local police prosecute theirs.

It is interesting times. You have the two reports from the US nuclear side too:
http://rt.com/usa/us-nuclear-general-suspended-495/
and then:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/11/air-force-general-in-charge-nuclear-missiles-to-be-fired-officials-say/
Was an item transferred from a US base without the correct paperwork?
Was an item not transferred from a US base without the correct paperwork?
Now 2 top people from the NSA too (civilian deputy will step down too).
Someone is replacing staff around the nuke command and the domestic surveillance system. What does history tell about the politics of such changes?

> Nixon was pardoned for any crimes he "might" have committed, so I don't think it requires
> admission of guilt. (Though there might be a perception of guilt and political fallout from that.)

so did you catch the more recent news? Nixon was KNOWN to have committed treason before he was elected. LBJ's spies had a senior person in his campaign, on a recorded phone call to South Viet Nam, urging the South Vietnamese to pull out of peace talks, promising a better deal under a Nixon administration.

Clear collusion with a foriegn party to affect US elections, not just in a trivial way, but but pulling out of peace talks against US foriegn policy interests. This information was not made public until sometime in the past year or two.

> Even if it did, Obama could just pardon him on his (Obama's) last day of office. If they delay the
> trial with pre-trial motions for a couple of years, the pardon would come through before anyone does
> any time.

However, why would they allow that to even happen? http://www.atra.org/legislation/federal/federal-employees-liability-reform-and-tort-compensation-aAct

...Act to provide for the substitution of the United States as a defendant in any action where one of its employees is sued for damages as a result of an alleged common law tort committed by the employee within the scope of his or her employment. Congress enacted the Westfall Act to respond to the United States Supreme Court's decision in Westfall v. Erwin, 484 U.S. 292 (1988), which limited a federal official's absolute immunity from tort claims to situations where the official's actions were "within the outer perimeter of an official's duties and . . . discretionary in nature."

Or this article on how it is being used to shield the members of the Bush Cabal: http://rt.com/usa/bush-amnesty-iraq-war-847/

And nothing of value was lost. Or gained.

Approximately $24 billion was lost.

AC the next step is the 'locked box' and a vision of using data in open US courts. No more having to hide Hemisphere like efforts.
http://rt.com/usa/at&t-phone-surveillance-dea-325/
The complexity of parallel construction, underfunded legal teams and courts that convict at lot would get around most of the in public court 'dragged off' comments.
If not a NSL solves your "show me one example" sock puppet question.
Thanks to Snowden the world can see the project names, term, software and hardware to enable a domestic surveillance state.
Where the US legal profession stands or can comment could be based on chilling NSL efforts.
You also have a layer of security cleared lawyers who guide US whistleblowers to US politicians and closed security cleared courts.
The soothing trap of been told to stay in the USA, you will be protected - the cases just vanish into the bureaucracy.

The leadership of NATO will never let their governments escape the NSA. The best that will happen is a very public telco rebuild. From one hub 'known' (Frankfurt) to link to the NSA, new domestic only hubs will open as national 'data' protecting loops. The contractors will have any new systems wired back to the NSA from day one.
"Comms giant pushes anti-spy network"
http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20131014-52385.html
http://www.dw.de/telekom-hopes-to-stave-off-nsa-snoops-by-keeping-internet-traffic-in-germany/a-17154274
http://rt.com/news/deutsche-telekom-internet-spies-176/

Re 'will do for much of the conflict"
Did you miss the optics of "California governor signs law defying cooperation with NDAA indefinite detention" and AB351?
http://rt.com/usa/california-ndaa-ban-law-612/
http://tracking.tenthamendmentcenter.com/issues/ndaa/ seems a few States are considering aspects of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and the 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF).

I used to wear a nice wide-brimmed fedora. (I left it on a plane and haven't bought another.) It may be time to start wearing one again.

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This is what will happen to you if you don't cooperate: http://rt.com/usa/qwest-ceo-nsa-jail-604/

Now that the government is shut down, does that mean the domestic spying program is also?

And while I'm at it, would it be unpatriotic of me to suggest that the government shutdown may be a tactful diversion from the domestic spying program? Snowden's Sunday leak was largely ignored Sunday by the major news networks in favor of the impeding shutdown.

AC did you miss the news:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data
http://rt.com/usa/microsoft-nsa-snowden-leak-971/

You haven't read the latest news reports:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9819096/Two-million-quit-Britain-in-talent-drain.html
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/1000-knife-crime-victims-in-london-each-month-shocking-new-figures-show-8681511.html
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/jun/12/workers-deepest-cuts-real-wages-ifs
http://rt.com/op-edge/osborne-scheme-property-market-crash-434/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2438168/Half-maternity-wards-turn-away-women-labour-Report-says-lives-risk-units-bursting-seams.html

The UK is going the same way as the USA. Everyone is fighting and clawing each other to get that "home in the catchment area of the good school" unless they can afford a private school. Which by the way is only affordable to company directors and senior government employees. Anyone who can't achieve that goal has no option but emigration.

Just a room in the edgier parts of London rents for £200/week.

If by evolution you mean the addition of information via useful mutations in the human genome, it is yet to be observed. What *has* been observed instead is functional deterioration of the genome - see http://rt.com/usa/intelligence-stanford-years-fragile-531/ .

(For a more - vigorous - view, see http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/are-humans-getting-better-what-is.html )

So crystallisation via cooling is a "spectacular decrease in entropy", capable of disproving the papers referenced earlier. How did you assess this? By seeing regularity in simple repeating crystal structures versus the liquid blob? By this logic, the regularity of molecules in a solid is evidence of the same thing. But no one calls cooling of a liquid to a solid a "spectacular decrease in entropy".

So the similar size of the earth and the moon are a coincidence...

> There are only a handful of trees left of that age. No way an exponential curve would be smooth with that little data.

You must be very familiar with the details. Anyway, the point is not that there is a smooth curve. The point is that there is a curve which stops abruptly at a time which matching the date of the Genesis flood. There are no trees with more rings. But the oldest trees are *still* growing. So there is no reason that there should not be trees with more rings.

If the ages of the oldest trees is another coincidence, it roughly coincides also with the the span of recorded history and the time since the ancestors of the Danes separated from the ancestors of the Turks.

There are other coincidences.

who knows why or who it benefits, but it certainly isn't the people of the UK.

Is that your evaluation based on many years of experience with the intelligence agencies? Or is it the snark of a passing minute on the internet?

NSA helped foil terror plot in Belgium, documents, officials say
Police arrest 10 over Belgian 'Islamist terror plot'
Belgian police raid homes in connection with Syrian terror groups recruits
Two Belgian "terrorism" suspects detained in Yemen
Fearing terror attack, Belgium arrests 14

I know, in the U.S.A healthcare is just another business. No profit, no care.

New Jersey hospital deports unconscious stroke victim
http://rt.com/usa/jersey-hospital-deport-stroke-282/

Report: U.S. hospitals deported hundreds of immigrants
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57580905/report-u.s-hospitals-deported-hundreds-of-immigrants/

Ugh.

So people have bought then, hook, line, etc., the total lie that Assad used gas on his own people. He didn't.

http://thiscantbehappening.net/node/1958

http://rt.com/news/turkey-syria-chemical-weapons-850/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2418378/Syrian-hostage-Domenico-Quirico-overheard-rebels-blame-Damascus-chemical-attacks.html

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/504735/20130909/syria-chemical-attack-assad-rebels-blame-hostage.htm

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/08/syria-chemical-weapons-not-assad-bild

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/06/syri-j13.html

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

http://consortiumnews.com/2013/09/06/obama-warned-on-syrian-intel/

http://www.voltairenet.org/article180149.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-military-and-intelligence-officials-to-obama-assad-not-responsible-for-chemical-attack/5348576

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/29/verify-chemical-weapons-use-before-unleashing-the-dogs-of-war/