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Morality Reflects Power
the reason Christians weren't allowed to lend for interest had nothing to do with fear of economic activity, and plenty to do with legislating morality. It was considered wrong to practice usury, and it was thus made illegal. Yet another example that legislating morals is dumb.
Morality derives from the State, and yet also from the people, as a way of reproducing and constraining power relations. That's why "acceptable" morals were transformed during the century-long conversion of the Roman Empire from Pagan to Christian. It's a complex feedback mechanism.
Don't kid yourself about the position of Jews in European society of that time -- they were seen as a necessary, expendable evil. Xenophobia in general was rampant when Venice, following on from its seclusion of Germans under house arrest in apartment blocks, figured out it could move all its Jews into a single area, the Ghetto, where they could be controlled and, if necessary, eliminated more easily.
And as for the "why" of usury prohibiton, I am definitely viewing it from a structuralist viewpoint. What end did it serve? Why did it persist? Who gained advantage from it, and how was this advantage leveraged?
People have on occasion engaged in wholescale social engineering efforts through legislating morality. The Roman Church's redefiniton of 13 degrees of consanguinity as "incest" in the 1200s comes to mind, as do more recent and unsuccessful attempts at social engineering in the US, such as the failed Alchohol Prohibition and the failing Drugs Prohibition. Anyway, the link between post-medieval non-conformity, Protestantism, and Capitalsm is well-established and pervasive. I note that the massively expanded incest prohibition was originally designed to limit the growing power of self-sufficient kinship collectives within medium-sized towns. But by scattering marriageable brides far and wide, it had the unintended consequence of creating a more dynamic capital market and, by lessening the self-sufficiency, it made it possible for the merchant classes to profitably exchange more goods and services over greater distances. It was a key enabler for the rebirth of urbanism. -
How to disable
This link tells how to disable the service on various Windows platforms.
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Re:No kidding
I said: "I have no doubt the "review" was written with a sense of humour, but it wasn't just a joke." PhoenixFlare responded: "Then he failed, miserably. The "joke" isn't funny at all, and frankly, makes him look like a complete idiot."
Note that I actually said it wasn't just a joke. As to whether it was funny or not, well, different people find humour in all sorts of different things. You might (or might not) have found parts of it funny if you hadn't misunderstood it on your first reading. Now, of course, it's very unlikely you'll find it at all funny because it'll be tainted by the memory of the irritation and/or annoyance you felt on reading it the first time.
PhoenixFlare: "If that really was his intention, which I doubt....Then why the hell try to pass it off as a "real" article?" Well, one might as well ask why people participate in April Fools stunts. And by the way, remember that this is Slashdot, the land where no errors of spelling or grammar - let alone complete misrepresentation of a story - are sufficient to keep an article from the front page *wry grin*.
But sometimes it's necessary to present something as the "real thing" in order to make the point you're trying to make. Have a look at the very ingenious essay A Person Paper on Purity in Language for one very good example of this sort of thing. And yes, there were apparently a lot of people that misunderstood (and continue to misunderstand) that essay... but if you don't misunderstand it, it makes the point very effectively.
:)Pete.
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Blame the 3/5 compromise.If you want to keep it to US history, you'll have to blame the 3/5 compromise. Go back in your history books, and look up when they were arguing out the US Constitution, and decided that black slaves would equal 3/5 of a person.
From this, came (1) an acceptance of slavery, thus justifying the New England abuses of the Industrialization. That, in turn, drove a desire of the New England Industrialists to seize the South for their benefit, as well as providing a pretext for the ci vil war.
The ongoing abuses of the industrialists, meanwhile, drove the westward expansion and the policy of manifest destiny. The civil war, then, centralized power in the hands of the federal government, thus providing power to the policies of manifest destiny, and driving an imperial attitude among our leaders.
With the imperial attitude came the need in our leaders' hearts to be the ruler of the world, from Roosevelt's "Great White Fleet", to our presence in WWI and WWII.
Now, our sending our boys off to WWII proved to be a different kind of downfall. With all the young men and women in love, probably going to get married in 5 years anyhow, the news of going off to war resulted in the baby boom, and a lot of premarital sex, or shotgun-fast weddings. Now, in general their intentions were right, and even where girls did get pregnant out of marriage, they still did get married. But then when it came time to teach their kids morality, they couldn't do it. They couldn't bring themselves to say "what we did was wrong" to themselves -- and therefore, they by and large taught their kids "just don't do it. People don't do that kind of thing."
The kids grew up hearing this, and immediately deduced "what kind of hypocrisy is this?!?" So we had the sexual revolution, and alongside that an explosion in psychoactive drugs.
The sexual revolution is something we never really go over. It resulted dually in a general loss of faith in God and libertine attitudes, which brought a host of problems: extreme wrongful profiteering became normal; legalized theft reached new highs with lawsuits becoming an accepted way to become rich. Our television started deifying consumerism and sexuality; and we as we started importing the products of theft, we had to export corruption and death in unimaginably large numbers of ways.
That, since then, has driven a great hatred of the ugly American. (But not to be Eurocentric, France and Germany, even Italy and Spain, all have engendered similar hatred, but not to the extremes that America has.)
But the lack of faith in God also drives fear. So you have 300 million (or more) fear-driven, consumerist, theft-friendly Americans.
What, exactly, could be more natural than the music piracy, the RIAA/MPAA tactics, DRM, and the Patriot act?
Yeah, you can take it back to the 3/5 compromise.
But that's the short sighted answer. The long-sighted answer would take it back to the first humans.
Or maybe, the longest-sighted answer of all would be to say "since we played our own role in this, we have earned what we got."
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More interesting Technology
what is so great about this? these guys -
MARC make sensors in your bed that measure your pulse and breathing rythm and these are completlely invisible.. Whats the big deal with the sofa? And why is this simple thing on cnn? -
Re:FINALLY!
Other people "get it". If you go to UVA, you might want to talk with Dr. McCalpin, and take a look at the stream memory benchmark.
Memory bandwidth is a bottleneck, not the biggest. It depends on the application. Sometimes an app is CPU bound, disk bound, network bound, or memory bound (or graphics card bound if 130FPS is too slow for your eyes). Also, chip-to-chip interconnects will not change the memory bandidth issue, because if the data does not fit on the chips or thier cache, then its going in memory.
Also, this is for scaling. Think beowulf. For those machines, the data must go from the cpu -> memory -> network interface -> switch -> network interface -> memory -> cpu. Yes, bandiwidth is an issue, but there is also latency, which would be very low with these kinds of chips.
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Re:Windy
Wrong again. The Windy City is called such because of the 1893 World's Fair. Chicago had to do quite a bit of bragging to bring the fair to their city.
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Bragging rights...
As long as they put it on Legion, U.Va. will get to maintain state bragging rights. I don't keep up with the football rivalry, but this is much cooler anyway.
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Re:I'm so pissed off with MSIf the add is a plain text "Messenger Service" pop-up, you have a network service enabled that was intended to push out urgent messages from system administrators. It has legitimate purposes, so ask first before acting.
To disable Messenger in XP Pro:
Click Start->Settings ->Control Panel
Click Administrative Tools
Click Services
Double click Services
Scroll down and highlight "Messenger"
Right-click the highlighted line and choose Properties.
Click the STOP button.
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Re:Pretty obviousI do work for the Defense Department, and we won't consider using Microsoft code for anything that's important.
How typical of someone who works in defense- you haven't the slightest idea what goes on anywhere except in your little world.
Remember the destroyer that had to be towed into port because its Windows network crashed and it was dead in the water, because someone entered a 'zero' into a database field, and windows shit the bed? Yeah, the mission-critical functions of a nuclear powered destroyer aren't very important.
Register article about land-attack destroyer
Carrier with windows network(including a joke prediction about how the USS Ronald Regan be running SP2).
Report about the USS YorktownThey insist Windows NT wasn't the cause of the problems, but the funny thing is, no non-Windows-NT/2k powered 'smart' ship has these problems. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and crashes like a duck...:-)
While NT may not have been the direct cause, the problem propagated(which is typical of windows systems), and never should have happened in the first place- even on crappy programming by an application developer, the DB and OS should not shit the bed because you have a zero in a field.
According to the register articles, Microsoft Federal Systems is now actively engaged in weapons systems integration, not just propulsion and shipboard operations. That is truly frightening...
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While we're on the subject...
... here's a litt bit about making those crazy lightshows from the sixties.
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Re:Patent scope
f the patent covers "mechanisms for embedding objects within distributed hypermedia documents, where at least some of the object's data is located external to the document, and there is a control path to the object's implementation to support user interaction with the object" then does OLE also infringe?
Is there really no prior art?It's a long time since I used it, and in a LISP environment, of course, there's really nos such concept as a plugin, but there was analogous functionality in NoteCards.
"There are a number of different node types (over forty), supporting various media. Authors may use LISP commands to customize or create entirely new node types."
I would have thought a NoteCards node type was highly analogous to a mime type, and the 'LISP command' was highly analogous to a plugin.
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Re:Huh? Air traffic controllers!?
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Re:What was the polling METHOD?
Yes, the actual question is key!
So's the method. I love it how the media expects the public to swallow data as fact without even pretending to tell us where it came from. The poll was taken by the Entertainment Software Association using an unnamed method. I have to wonder if it was taken over the Web.
It'd sure be to the pollsters' advantage to have a data set showing that lots of women play computer games. That's been one of their most challenging markets to penetrate. They may be using the 'social proof' method of persuasion here. The more your target audience believes that they'd be part of a trend by doing something, the more they're likely to try it. Sure, I can see them picking an unreliable polling method and hoping for lots of guys to say they're women just for fun.
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Speaking of efficiency...
I say it's about time and what about hydrogen powered vehicles? Two things that annoy me are filling the gas tank and changing light bulbs. It's time we did alot less of both."
Now if I could just code a portable networkable class library to RTFA-ing robot on my behalf, that would be a triple crown.
Yeah. And let's automate interactivity too. And impressing the neighbors. We could make a waste-o-mataton to make this obsolete. Yeah. Start with a stoker furnace, and put piles of cash on the feed conveyer with a web cam catching it all, and subvert google with an army of hired bloggers to link to it. Sound like a winner?
Hmm. That's too labor intensive. I think I have a better idea: Create a virus that uses a DDoT (distributed denial of thriftiness) strategy. Anyway, whatever you do, just make sure to consider if Homer Simpson could afford to do it and if so, then never do it where people can see you.
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Re:We shouldn't underestimate this...Civilized debate would be good for the industry. The outlook is not brilliant. Here's a little chunk of Hamilton from the Federalist Papers:
Men often oppose a thing, merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike. But if they have been consulted, and have happened to disapprove, opposition then becomes, in their estimation, an indispensable duty of self-love. They seem to think themselves bound in honor, and by all the motives of personal infallibility, to defeat the success of what has been resolved upon contrary to their sentiments. Men of upright, benevolent tempers have too many opportunities of remarking, with horror, to what desperate lengths this disposition is sometimes carried, and how often the great interests of society are sacrificed to the vanity, to the conceit, and to the obstinacy of individuals, who have credit enough to make their passions and their caprices interesting to mankind. Perhaps the question now before the public may, in its consequences, afford melancholy proofs of the effects of this despicable frailty, or rather detestable vice, in the human character.
It is not obvious how the interests of Microsoft's stakeholders (employees, shareholders, taxing authorities, office supply vendors, etc) can be reconciled with the interests of, loosely speaking, "Open Source." Closed source & copyright permit Microsoft to collect monopoly rent. Open source & copyleft eliminates that rent. Failure by Microsoft management to take all lawful actions to prevent such a revenue reduction would (arguably) be a breach of fiduciary responsibility, limited only by the economic principle that the cost of said actions should be less than the expected loss the of monopoly rent. -
But did they catch Shakespear's Signature?
It's perhaps an old urban legend that William Shakespear (spelled here without the terminal 'e', both spellings seem to be around) was consulted on the poetry of the Psalms. Presented as evidence:
KJV Psalm 46Note that 4+6 = 10, the number of letters in Shakespear. Count to the 46th word from the beginning, you see "shake" and the 46th word from the end (excluding the "Selah", a musician notation, IIRC) you have "spear"...
I'd love to find out if the Bard really did have a hand in it... which one might hope this book would...
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why use vc++ in the first place?
to be honest, i don't understand the motivation for using vc++ in a non-professional (read: outside of work) capacity in the first place. i realize the $99-$129 "professional version" price tag that i've seen, and the even cheaper academic pricing, are not too shabby compared with "enterprise" pricing... but they're still more expensive than $0! there are more than several freely available alternative compilers for win32 machines - cygwin gcc, borland (debugger also), djgpp, open watcom, lcc, MinGW, and Digital Mars (nb: haven't examined the license in detail) to name a few. can anyone else shed some light on why a developer might prefer vc++, or under which circumstances vc++ might be considered a clear-cut better choice than one of the alternatives listed above?
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Re:Why Python is good at our university
Dijkstra was half joking, trolling even, in that remark about Basic. In the same piece are other hyperbolic comments such as "The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence." Have you really read any Dijkstra? He always seems level headed to me. Your rant seems to be about a different kind of person entirely. Are you seriously suggesting he should have been defending the status quo of Basic (and Fortran and Cobol)? That Basic is effective? If someone tells you goto is harmful, by all means try it out yourself, but also go and read the careful reasoning behind that little quote.
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Telemarketers destroyed by cruise missile attack!"We felt a lesson had to be taught," said newly appointed White House spokesdroid Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf after a volley of 753 cruise missiles were launched against the central assets of the nation's telemarketers. "Those phone calling, ass sucking bastards may feel safe hiding behind their lawyers, but they have been taught the shame that they shall now feel. We expect them to commit suicide at any moment."
Early reports indicate that every cruise missile hit its intended targets except for one that leveled a Stuckey's in deepest, darkest New Jersey.
"It was something else," said Garden State resident Bibby O'Leary. "There were nutty cheese balls everywhere. May the gracious Lord grant me my wish to never look upon such a sight again."
"We gave the stinking pig-dogs a chance with the National Do Not Fucking Bother Me Resolution," said al-Sahaf. "We gave them every chance, but their black little souls were full of evil, and they had to be taught a lesson.
"Gurgle! Argh!" shouted American Teleservices Association executive director Tim Searcy from his hospital bed where he was being treated for extensive limb loss. "Millions of grandmothers will die for lack of employment, and rats will devour the children of the land! Telemarketing is the only thing keeping the cloven hooved man-goat at bay in his underworld!"
"There is ample legal precedent for governmental interest in protecting residential privacy," said FCC spokesbabe Bubbles McConnifer. "If those cock-gobbling leeches at the ATA don't like it, we can add them to the list of known terrorist organizations, and tip off the MPAA that the ATA is involved in heavy file sharing. Let's see how those weasels like that."
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Much of what we're doing in Open Source...Is based on ideas which are thirty years and more old. Back in the early eighties I was working on Xerox workstations with ethernet networking, distributed hypertext, large bitmapped screens with WIMP user interface, WYSIWYG printing, embeddable components...
Of course part of the reason for this is that the seventies and early-eighties were an incredibly creative and productive period for software ideas. But... why has it stopped? The successful open source operating systems - the BSDs, Linux, the Hurd - are all based on UN*X, based on paradigms about how people use and share information which are rigid and hierarchical.
Of course there are open source operating systems based on other ideas, but so far none of them is making any break through. Is there a radically different Open Source operating system that you, personally, are excited by? If not, why not? Have we learned nothing in the last thirty years?
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Re:a MUSICAL exercise and a question about ADHD
AD/HD is in the DSM IV. I can't speak of anywhere else, but in Michigan no treatment can begin without: 1) An exam from a doctor (a general practitioner) 2) An exam from a psychologist. 3) An exam from an educational specialist. Good news is ritilan is no longer the drug of choice for treatment. The bad news is if the parent of the child is rich, steps 1, 2, and 3 are meaningless and the child probably will still be put on unnecessary treatment.
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Same weight, better spec...I am so tired of people claiming Sony as the only innovator on the market. Sharp has been making small systems for some time, I have had an older one, works fine with windows and linux, all-metal cases on some models, and the screens are orders of magnitude better than anything I have ever seen on a Sony. No, they don't do big volumes in the States. Did I mention they are substantially cheaper?
Try these, just to compare:
Sharp UM Series
(runs Linux, http://www.people.virginia.edu/~hz5p/laptop.html)
- Entry level models are sub-$1000
- 3.07 lbs
- Bigger disk in the higher-end models
- No integrated cdrw - buy an aftermarket one if you need one for the road
- Yeah, outdated Pentium 3 technology. Read the reviews - it beats some of the castrated P4 notebooks you see (ok but not the P4M a.k.a. Centrino minus the wifi)
- Bad-ass extended battery for 7 hours claimed life
- Compact-flash slot integrated
... kinda neat
If you need lighter, try the MM10
- 1 Ghz Transmeta chip (go rooting for the underdog)
- Nifty sync-up thingy for another pc if this is not your main one
- All the wifi goodies
- $1500 or so
- Probably runs Linux too
No, I don't work for sharp, and at times I think their service sucks (mainly the beef is with aftermarket parts for an older model), but at least I have confirmed that there is existent service, both warranty and non-warranty.
Bah, Sony. - Entry level models are sub-$1000
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Re:Your forget one thing though
Sorry for another reply to my own post, but here's a great resource for seeing how the language has changed over time. It has
.wav readings of beowulf. The reason I keep citing beowulf (no, I don't have some computer-cluster fetish) is that it is basically the only surviving example of old-english, or so I was taught. If you listen to it, you can really see how in just 1200 years, the language has totally changed. -
Yeah, like cigarettes...
Some people will happily ignore reasonable explanations and cling desperately to their paranoid delusion. These people cannot be convinced otherwise. Rather they need to be brain-washed to get that stupid idea out of their head.
That's why I fully place my trust in governments and corporations to tell me what's healthy and what's not.
After all, everyone knows that smoking is good for you. And there's no danger in mining uranium or genetically modified food or syphillis treatments or the drinking water, etc.
Yep, if a big organization says it's safe, that's good enough for me.
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What do reasoning do?
So basically they offer a service like lclint only many times more advanced ? What is to say they haven't missed anything?
This is probably a publicity stunt for them although a good one. I think it would be a good idea for them to sell software suites of their product if they don't already. -
Re:More targets....Your bowels start to resonate and you lose all control.
The technical term is "the brown noise".
:-)I think what you meant was brownian motion.
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Re:nitpicking point in the articleLight is red-shifted climbing out of the gravity well.
Can you expand on this? I've never heard of this, and I can't think of anything in my 40+ years of layman's reading on physics that could be expressed this way.
It's a well-known effect in General Relativity (well, to General Relativists!) and it is called the gravitational redshift effect. In fact, GPS software has to take in effect the gravitational time dilation of radio photons 'falling' from the satellites to the receivers, amongst some other relativistic corrections, in order to get a triangulation down to a few meters.
Sorry if I've borked up the details, haven't had coffee yet!
Dr. Fish
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Comics on the web just aren't the same thing
how to migrate comic books from print to web and make it work
I used to read comic books. I still do on occasion, as well as comics on the web. I notice one thing : comics that work well on the web are shorter, simpler in drawing and text and quicker-paced than paper comics. In short, web comics have their own style, quite distinguishable from paper comics. I reckon that's merely due to current screen resolutions : 75dpi, even 100 dpi isn't much to display nice graphics, complex actions or texts, while paper can bear (near-)infinitely complex details.
Once, I started to scan my old paper copy of Art Spiegelman's Maus, which is my all-time favorite comic, because the poor book was getting worn out and I wanted to preserve it. Well, after 2 or 3 pages, the digital result turned out to be awful and I reckon took away much of the atmosphere of the book, so I gave up and ended up buying another, recent hardback.
So is it such a good idea to migrate printed comics to the web ? I'm not that sure. It would certainly give an idea of what the original work is, but I think many comics deserve to be read on the media they were designed for originally. Maybe web comics could be considered as a wholly separate subform of comics in general, with its own style and talented authors ?
Finally, as a side note, there's another reason to prefer printed comics over web ones : have you noticed, on cheap comics, that sometimes you can see through the paper and have a look at what's on the next page, in reverse ? if that next page is colorful, or packed in action, you can see something's going to happen in the story and it makes you anticipate the rest with great pleasure. Web-based comics don't do that, and in a way that can take some of the reading experience away. -
Re:What is Art?
...another medium (comic books) that is often dismissed by the "Fine Art" community.
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CORRECTIONThere has been some confusion on my part and the part of others. Akamai may have updated its image before I got to it (what I get for trusting write-ups).
Here are the two images side-by-side, Akamai's and Thinksecret's.
The images have quite different "feels". I'll leave speculation about the provenance of Thinksecret's image to the experts.
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Proof and mirror
Apparently, some enterprising young soul traced down the Akamai image and as of 20 June 2003, 9:00 am EST, that image is still up. Basically, this means the image is real enough to have Akamai's machines serve it up. (Akamai provides content delivery services to Apple)
And in case someone at Apple and Akamai wake up enough to pull the Akamai content, here's my mirror. Think of it as education free use.
(Dear, Mr. Jobs. Please don't sic your lawyers on me. You'll find I'm very amenable were I to receive "assistance" with my imminent alBook purchase.)
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Re:New GuidelinesAccording to US Census data for 1960, the total US population was ~178,554,900 people.
Using this data, calculating the cost per day at $0.50 per person arrives at the amount of ~$89,277,450.00. The Apollo program ended in 1972 and began officially (I believe) in 1961, making it eleven years long.
365 days x 11 years = 4015 days.
4015 days x $89,277,450 = $358,448,961,750 (1960 value).This is about as far as I can take the calculation, considering that I am not an economics major. Can anyone calculate the cost of the Apollo project in terms of y2000 value?
I'd be interested to see how much it cost in today's terms.
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Re:Here's a nice quote from a /real/ programming b
Google came up with
this page at.
It has a broken link to a longer article maybe? But still, I'd like to see some decent argument to support this rather bold claim. BASIC didn't have decent subroutines or objects, but it could get you down the road of starting to think about wehat you wanted to get done in a step by step fashion, and I think a lot of current great programmers cut their teeth on various versions of the language.
I've certainly seen more crap in "good" languages-- from folks who started in those languages! - then from people who have a long career that started in BASIC. -
Re:more Yves
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lactose intolerance
Lactose intolerance is the norm in many parts of the world.
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Re:patheticYou're very funny. Let me directly quote the great-grandparent which you wrote:
Peta should be advocating the fact that animals are sentient beings, not a renewable resource. And for those pathetic scientists who even created such a device should deserve death at the least, using their own stupid machines.
Where did you use the "=" sign there? You said scientists who create a technology should be put to death "at the least" (I'm wondering what your "most" would be...). You did not say the users of the machines should be put to death, you said the creators. That's like suing Ford for a drunk driver killing your relative. (Pssst... it's not equal.)
I didn't insult your education, call you a fool, or discuss your drug use or lack thereof. I merely said you were being hypocritical, and you didn't answer my question: do you eat vegetables for which you must kill the organism in order to produce the food? (Carrots, potatoes, beets?)
Unlike animals, if an apple is broken off the tree, first, it doesn't feel pain (no nervous system) and second, it can REGROW the apple i.e. regenerate.
But carrots, potatoes and beets cannot regenerate; you kill them by harvesting them.
And just because a plant doesn't have a nervous system doesn't mean that you're not removing a life force from the Earth when you kill plants. They have a Kirlian aura which you're snuffing out. And check out PEVA, who argue that plants and even single-celled organisms can feel pain ("Some single cell organisms are known to react and withdraw (run!) from heat. Is this not a single-cell pain reaction without a complex human-like nervous system? How can a single cell make this determination without having a 'brain'?")
Oh, and as for religious references? Let's take Genesis:
"26": And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Now, from Dictionary.com, dominion is:
1. Sovereign or supreme authority; the power of governing and controlling; independent right of possession, use, and control; sovereignty; supremacy.
Combining the two: God gave us supremacy over the animals. The power to govern, control, possess, and use them for our purposes.
And if you follow a more scientific track, we evolved as omnivores and the few people who I have seen attempt a vegan lifestyle ended up emaciated, weak, pale, and short. (Yes, this is anecdotal evidence.)
I'm not trying to pick a fight -- but you obviously are, given the wording in the great-grandparent post:
Go ahead, FLAME ME. But it's the truth.
Calling something the truth without providing references is a Fallacious Argument. There's lots on that page; take your pick. ;-) (My vote is for Burden of Proof, but several others fit.) Now, if you're willing to provide references, as I have above, and not resort to name-calling (that's an Ad Hominem attack, by the way) then we can have a discussion. -
Re:Anyhow...
>On another topic, throwing around derogatory comments like "desert cult" do nothing to pursuade us, only to get brownie points for yourself with like minded slashdotters.
I agree. There's no excuse for BS like that...
>And the atheist says "what's not good about me? I'm good enough that I don't need God".
Some may say that. Some have simply decided that they feel the bible is far too inconsistent to base one's most important life decisions on. Just because you've rejected religion _doesn't_ automatically mean you've rejected the possibility of doing wrong.
IMHO, bad choices are made by a lack of intelligence on the matter at hand, and since nobody knows everything, and nobody ever will (unless someone builds a time machine + transporter), no atheist should ever think themselves perfect.
>I'd be curious to see just exactly what it is an atheist could possibly believe they are "good enough" at so that they don't need God.
Simple -- I feel I'm "good enough" at making decisions that affect others positively, while also ensuring the effect on myself is either neutral, or positive.
Sure, I make mistakes, but up to now, none serious enough to alienate family, friends I wanted to keep, or neighbours. I think that's a good enough track record, IMHO, without asking "God" to tell me what I should(n't) do.
>After all, without God there is no right or wrong - there is only "something that helps me pass on my seed" and "something that stops me passing on my seed".
Of _course_ there's right and wrong. What's right is what causes humanity to progress in a positive manner, so that any children you have might prosper, and so that your name will be remembered in a good light. Generally, this happns by improving humanity as a whole, which means not doing things to harm it (ie: Hurting other people).
I'd rather that if someone hundreds of years from now crosses my obit. they weren't saying "Look, it's shepd the Tryrant!".
>The fact that atheists come by a set of moral laws independently of religion is a testimony to God's existence and a mockery of what the atheist believes.
Say what? That doesn't compute. If group a produces set b independently of group c, which produces the same set b, it is automatically group c that produced set b?
Which brings me to what I said earlier, and why I don't believe in the bible. Inconsistencies in logic abound.
As an interesting test, you'll find that many animals, despite the fact that such lower life forms cannot understand the mere conception of a "God", do have feelings, many of which seem quite human. Harm an animal and it'll either get enraged or cower. Befriend it and it won't harm you (usually). It may even help you.
The fact that animals can have these simple feelings says something about the fact that humans could be pre-programmed with a set of moral rules from birth. And the fact that the human brain is so large and so much more complex than that of any other species would clearly point to a much more developed and complex rule system. One that helps govern an orderly society, perhaps?
>If natural selection sets any precedence, then almost every atheist I view is not living the way they should.
As an appeal to the bible reader in you, Matthew 7:1 suggests that you might want to avoid this...
>They should all be living in ways that helps them get more children - what path they choose is irrelevant (being nice, deceptive, violent, etc). What is important is producing as many children as possible.
Tell that to the gay atheists, would you?
Then again, by this "Atheism's goal is reproduction" logic, that can't happen, can it? There can be no gay Atheists in in a Fox's Hole. Then again, the -
Why?
When did the word Christian become a bad word? If you want to belittle Christianity you should at least read the Gospel, and if you read just the book of John (which you could read in 15 minutes), I think you would not think of Christianity in the same light.
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Re:90 Percent?Nothing that major has been observed since. There was a spectacular near miss, though. This object skipped off the atmosphere in Aug., 1972, starting over Utah and leaving the atmosphere over Alberta. I was a fetus when it passed over my parents' house.
But if I were you, I'd be more worried about the small stuff.
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Re:Here it is
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No no no no!
History . Learn it or repeat it.
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Re:Subjunctive Correction
I think he was referring to the subjunctive mood. You know, if I were someone with a life, I wouldn't be on
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Re:I thought this was interesting
hum, are you serious or not? the hubble sphere depends on us being in the centre of a sphere, but it doesn't really mean anythinng really, if You went to mars your hubble sphere's centre would be on mars, etc, etc. It's all about that after a certain distance you cannot see any further and that is true in all directions, hence a sphere. Heck, each one of us little critters on this planet got our own hubble sphere!
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MIRRORS
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Re:The Hon. Member is *not* a yappy cocker spaniel
The incident before the civil war was famous because it showed the tension between the north and south. Senator Charles Sumner, Republican of Massachusetts, was caned by representative Preston Brooks, Democrat of South Carolina, in 1856 for insulting Senator Andrew Butler's stance on Kansas (and making light of his medical condition). Brooks was Butler's nephew and caned Sumner at his desk in a nearly empty Senate chamber. So, as legislation it didn't really work because they were from different chambers. As propaganda it worked pretty well, but for Sumner and the abolitionists.
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Re:VB is just Very BadAre these poor habits encouraged by VB? (Enquiring minds want to know...)
Yes. BASIC is the language which inspired this famous quote:
It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.
Visual BASIC just takes all that mind-mutilating badness and wraps it in a GUI package. VB is actually not so bad if you treat it as a scripting language for Windows forms, but it shouldn't be confused with real programming languages.-- Edsger Dijkstra, " How do we tell truths that might hurt?"
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Check out computational neurobiology
Actually, they have made significant strides already in figuring out how the brain works. Check out the Levy Lab at the University of Virginia. They've trained a computer model of a rat's hippocampus to do all sorts of intelligent things, such as transitive inference, sequence completion/combination/disambiguatuion, goal finding, etc. While these are not difficult problems for humans to solve or hardcode into a program, the fact that a single network can do these different and sometimes contradictory things represents something that I would call intelligence. As far as I know, they don't plan on having a model of a human brain very soon, since U.Va. lacks NSA-scale compute servers, but even rat-level learning is pretty cool.
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Well, you did ask...
It is pretty dark and wet in the small intestine as well and these seem to work there. Perhaps it would help you out if you flushed one of these down the toilet and picked it up at the waste treament plan several hours later where you can get pictures of it's journey.
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Re:possible reason for Gandma's porn
Of course it is possible that the account name was stolen or sold; I get a lot of MSN messenger spam on the new XP Machine, mostly from blockmessenger.com
Dude, you do know you can just disable the messenger service, right?