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I find the areas with the strictest gun control have the most asshole, abusive cops.

Y'all are going to have to produce the citations for that, my man. Meanwhile, here's one for you:

https://www.worldatlas.com/art...

The top ten in reverse order are:

10. West Virginia

9. California

8. Alaska

7. Montana

6. Wyoming

5. Nevada

4. Arizona

3. Oklahoma

2. District of Columbia

1. New Mexico

According to your experience, California and DC and New York should be 1 through three, but New York isn't even on the list.

What do you think? Liberal hogwash?

We're number 2 in manufacturing output, with $3.6 trillion in output. That's more than the GDP of all but 4 countries (the US included).

Americans sure love their coal. They use more coal than anyone else in the world.

USA is number 3

Yet more lies from WindBourne. China is not adding more coal than renewables. Show somewhere credible that backs up your lies.

You can't even keep all your lies consistent. Is China slowing like you have been claiming? Or are they growing so fast they need 9% more electricity than last year?

Facts are facts WindBourne, China emits less than half the CO2 per person that America does. Clearly anyone with an ounce of sense can tell who the problem country is. The only reason CO2 need to drop in the first place is because of countries like the US, Canada and Australia. They are just hiding behind the fact they are small countries, and have been highly polluting already for such a long time they are used to it. If they could drop to China's level it would be solved. Can they do it? Drop 1/2 their CO2?
There is zero chance of that happening any time soon. Especially with idiots like you trying to convince people those highly polluting countries are doing the right thing already. American apologists like you are the worst thing ever for the environment. Always trying to focus the blame onto someone else so you don't need to think about your own responsibilities.

China's percentage of renewable electricity is much much higher than America's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
https://www.worldatlas.com/art...

China and a handful of other nations have a near monopoly on the materials needed to make wind and solar power cheap

How do you come to that retarded idea?

https://www.worldatlas.com/art...
https://www.statista.com/stati...

Solar panels are made out of: sand!

No, solar panels are made of silicon and the USA produces very little of it. The kind the USA does produce is predominately low grade used in producing steel and aluminum.
https://minerals.usgs.gov/mine...

Wind turbines from carbon fiber positioned on steel masts.

And with rare earth magnets on top of those steel masts.
https://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/...

Mining rare earth metals means also digging up a lot of other nasty minerals, like thorium and uranium, that unless there is a market for them they can contaminate the environment. What on earth could we possibly do with all this uranium and thorium? I'm just tossing out an idea here, nuclear power?

The USA does not have the capacity to produce solar panels, and has limited capacity to produce windmills, without imported materials. On the other hand the USA already produces several nuclear power plants every year to supply it's nuclear powered navy. Increasing the capacity to produce nuclear power in the USA is near trivial, we need only remove the political barriers to larger production. To produce more wind and solar in the USA would take years and billions of dollars to build the plants that can turn sand into PV panels and ore into rare earth magnets.

The monopoly that China has on silicon and rare earth metals is not in the raw material in the ground, it's in the factories that turn that raw material into something valuable. Overturning that monopoly will take lots of money and time in making factories.

The entire world is relying on China to play nice for it's supply of wind and solar power. By destroying their ability to produce domestic nuclear power these nations place a very vital resource, energy, at the whimsy of China. Much of Europe is now reliant on Chinese solar and Russian natural gas for energy. If there is ever a trade dispute then I can expect to see Europe get real dark and cold.

The US is the second largest manufacturer in the world. I guess we "outsourced" our industry to become number 2? No, service is UP - but we really didn't lose much industry, enough to more than triple that of Germany (the tops in the EU).

This sucks that some country in Africa decides to censor things.

I guess their presidential constitutional republic now has officially jumped the shark into a dictatorship.

/sarcasm Congratulations on regressing from 2018 back into 1918! Thanks for another retarded government making yet-another-place not to live on this planet. You join other retarded countries such as China! Yay, progress!

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Only Cowards Censor

To put it bluntly you are full of shit.

https://www.worldatlas.com/art... https://qz.com/437015/mapped-t...

In order of states with most gun ownership: Wyoming, 40th most violent (admittedly, not bad but by your reasoning should be 50). Montana, 26th most violent. Alaska, MOST VIOLENT (are they giving these people bullets?). South Dakota, 19th most violent. Arkansas, 6th most violent. West Virginia, 27th most violent.

Top five states and your theory already falls apart. These are far from the safest states.

Iceland contains some of the world's healthiest people and the population also drinks ungodly amounts of soft drinks as I understand it.

I tried to Google that. The only source I found was an unsourced and unnumbered statement in some blog.
Here is another list
Also without source but at least it presents numbers so at least it isn't "My uncle once said that this country probably drinks the most soft drinks in the world."

1. Argentina (155 liters per capita)
2. USA (154 liters per capita)
3. Chile (141 liters per capita)
4. Mexico (137 liters per capita)
5. Uruguay (113 liters per capita)
6. Belgium (109 liters per capita)
7. Germany (98 liters per capita)
8. Norway (98 liters per capita)
9. Saudi Arabia (89 liters per capita)
10. Bolivia (89 liters per capita)

So, my take on it is that Icelands drinking problem doesn't disprove that soft drinks tend to be unhealthy.

"Chicago has the ... highest crime."

Citation please? Chicago doesn't even make the top ten.
https://www.worldatlas.com/art...

Perhaps you're thinking of that imaginary place where Trump lives and gets his information.

Germans pay more for power than almost every other Western country. That fact was conveniently left out of the push piece in the submitted story.

Power is still so cheap is not an issue. As long as my power bill is a 1/3rd of yours, you are the one who should think about power costs, not me.

What is the average electricity consumption per person in the USA and Germany?
https://data.worldbank.org/ind...
Germany 7,035 kWh
United States 12,987 kWh

What is the average price paid for the electricity by people in the USA and Germany?
http://www.worldatlas.com/arti...
Germany 19.21 cents/kWh
United States 10.00 cents/kWh

Multiply one by the other....
Germany $1352.42
United States $1298.70

Thats bollocks, google is your friend.

Indeed, Google is my friend. Americans pay less than half the rate for electricity and use nearly double the electricity, resulting in a smaller average electric bill than the average German.

Perhaps I can introduce you to Google? It seems that you've never met before.

"These same changes, to reiterate, have been associated with all previous mass extinctions on Earth"

Really?

Timeline of (major) Mass Extinction Events:
http://www.worldatlas.com/arti...
1 Holocene extinction - Present
2 Cretaceousâ"Paleogene extinction event 65 million years ago
3 Triassicâ"Jurassic extinction event 199 million to 214 million years ago
4 Permianâ"Triassic extinction event 251 million years ago
5 Late Devonian extinction 364 million years ago
6 Ordovicianâ"Silurian extinction events 439 million years ago

So the 'extinction events' are approx 65mya, 200mya, 250 mya, 360mya, and 440 mya?

Then we look in https://wattsupwiththat.com/20... for this: (CO2 vs time chart) https://wattsupwiththat.files.... ...which shows us (purple line)
65 mya- no CO2 spike (it had been falling steadily 60+ million years)
200 mya- yes CO2 spike
250 mya- no CO2 spike (it had been steady for about 60+ million years)
360 mya- no CO2 spike (a spike about 20my before this, though)
440 mya- CO2 rise over previous 20 my ...no clear correlation at all. CERTAINLY not that CO2 changes have been associated with "ALL PREVIOUS MASS EXTINCTIONS". That's bullshit.

In fact, that chart shows that current CO2 levels are much lower than the bulk of the last 500 million years.

Further, this chart would serve as pretty serious disputation of ANY correlation between CO2 and warming, frankly. CO2 spikes seem to result in no impact to temperature or plummeting temperatures.

People who use stimulants are likely to use stimulants.

Where do I apply for money for such studies? I'm asking for a friend...

My thoughts exactly.

What's interesting to me is that in so far as I can tell they did not do any kind of comparison with regular old coffee, you know, the age old stimulant that's even more potent in caffeine than some energy drinks. As a curiosity this sort of panic over 'energy drinks' such as coffee is not new

Coffee first arrived in Sweden around 1674, but was little used until the turn of the 18th century when it became fashionable among the wealthy. In 1746, a royal edict was issued against coffee and tea due to "the misuse and excesses of tea and coffee drinking". Heavy taxes were levied on consumption, and failure to pay the tax on the substance resulted in fines and confiscation of cups and dishes. Later, coffee was banned completely; despite the ban, consumption continued.

Gustav III, who viewed coffee consumption as a threat to the public health and was determined to prove its negative health effects, ordered a scientific experiment to be carried out.

The king ordered the experiment to be conducted using two identical twins. Both of the twins had been tried for the crimes they had committed and condemned to death. Their sentences were commuted to life imprisonment on the condition that one of the twins drank three pots of coffee, and the other drank the same amount of tea, every day for the rest of their lives.

Two physicians were appointed to supervise the experiment and report its finding to the king. Unfortunately, both doctors died, presumably of natural causes, before the experiment was completed. Gustav III, who was assassinated in 1792, also died before seeing the final results. Of the twins, the tea drinker was the first to die, at age 83; the date of death of the surviving coffee drinker is unknown.

In 1794, the government once again tried to impose a ban on coffee. The ban, which was renewed multiple times until the 1820s, was never successful in stamping out coffee-drinking. Once the ban was lifted, coffee became a dominant beverage in Sweden, which since has been one of the countries with the highest coffee consumption per capita in the world.

The experiment has jokingly been called "the first Swedish clinical trial"

The arguments raised then were pretty much exactly the same as they're now with energy drinks, namely that 'oh the youth of today does nothing but sit at cafes sipping this brown liquid, it's going to make them decadent idiots and losers!"

As a Finn I do have to point out as the centuries long neighborhood 'feud' between us and the Old Kingdom necessitates that we've got the nr. 1 place in coffee consumption. Filthy casuals. ;)

I've got to go now, my IV drip of Ecuadorian dark roast is running empty and the typing speed is falling to below 500 words a minute.

GP exaggerates. California produces a lot of almonds, but it's nowhere near 80% of the world total. More like 60%.

Cite.

Most of California is not a desert

Approximately half of California is a desert (an area of 10 inches of precipitation or less per year): map

An additional large portion is arid (~10-20 inches per year) - more specifically "hot mediterranean climate".

The majority of the crops are grown in the central valley

Which as you can see from the above map mostly ranges from desert (Bakersfield) to arid (Fresno, upwards to around Sacramento). The far north end (Sacramento Valley) isn't very arid, but it's also not as major of an agricultural area as the south.

Growing crops in the desert and arid regions gets good yields because of the abundant sunlight and warm days, but it requires water that you have less and less of every year. And you've already destroyed parts of your state (like, for example, the Owens Valley) to get the water that you do have.

likely would be deciduous forest except most of the rain happens in the winter

It would be what it was before irrigation: scrub.

Your own link contradicts what you're claiming. Germany and Denmark have the highest prices (unless you know how to avoid paying VAT and the other taxes) in part because they subsidize their green energy production which drives the overall price up significantly. Plenty of other sources show this as well.

I don't know the specifics of the Australian market, but I would imagine some kind of fuckery is going on, possibly similar to what happened in California where someone in the private sector stumbled on some highly exploitable government policy. If a government tries to regulate a market in a way that makes it possible or easy to exploit, someone's going to do it, especially when the payout looks good. Same holds if the government starts granting private companies monopolies similar to the U.S. cable industry. Of course you're going to get stuck with a single provider, shit service, and a shit price when it's illegal for anyone else to compete.

Also, Australia has loads of the Thorium. Nuclear would be a a great investment for their future. You suggest that the government needs to "fix the market" as if that wouldn't create an equal amount of bureaucracy and regulatory bodies. No matter how much green power you invest in, unless you massively overbuild, you need something to serve as a solid base, unless you want to invest the tends of billions of dollars in a storage solution that'll be just as obsolete in a few decades.

Montreal is not a very large city? Really?. And it also has the largest underground city in the world ... just saying.

Powerful is one thing, and unclear whether it's an important thing.

Wealthiest? Not quite, but it's up there and it beats the US, which is the only country it was being contrasted against:

http://www.worldatlas.com/arti...

Here are the dry lands of Texas:

http://www.worldatlas.com/webi...

Hmm...

880 yards in half a mile,
that's 1760 yards in a full mile
a yard is 3 feet long,
so a mile is 5280 feet.

Why do Americans cling to such an awkward measurement system?

Not sure about the USA, but here in NZ an inch is defined as exactly 25.4 mm.
So since a foot is 12 inches, a foot is 304.8 mm
so a mile is exactly 1,609,344 mm, or 1,609.344 metres, or 1.609344 km

Metric is a lot easier to deal with than the American Imperial System!

What do you actually mean by the width of the USA (see below!)?
I think 2,892 miles is the width most appropriate here, as we want the land to be contiguous (ignoring lakes & rivers!).

2,892 * 1,609,344 mm = 4,654,222,848 mm
4,654,222,848 mm / 78000 = 59,669.53 mm
59,669.53 / 304.8 =195.77

So there would be about 200 feet or about 60 metres person.

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/uslandst.htm
[...]
Horizontal Width: 2,680 miles
[...]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_width_of_the_US_from_coast_to_coast
[...]
        The precise distance depends on the exact latitude where you make the measurement but it is approximately 3,000 miles.

        It is roughly 3,400 miles at its widest point

        From Virgina Beach, Va. to San Jose, Ca. it is about 2,990 miles. From Jacksonville, Fl. to Aberdeen, Wa. it is 3,087 miles. From Augusta, Maine to Los Angeles, Ca it is 3,148 miles. This gives you an average of 3,075 miles.
[...]

http://www.bigsiteofamazingfacts.com/how-wide-is-the-united-states-in-miles-from-point-arena-california-to-west-quoddy-head-maine
[...]
The width of the United States depends on whether Alaska or Hawaii is included.

Measured from the farthest points west and east in the conterminous United States, meaning the 48 states that have a common boundary, which are West Quoddy Head, Maine, and Point Arena, California, the United States is 2,892 miles (4,656 km) wide.

Measured between the farthest points between the eastern United States and Alaska, Soldier Key, Florida, and Cape Wrangell, Alaska, the distance is 5,503 miles (8,860 km).

From Soldier Key, Florida, to Kure Island, Hawaii, the distance is 5,859 miles (9,433 km).
[...]

When the Chinese outnumber the United States, militarily by nearly 2:1 and in terms of raw population, by over 4:1, the only advantage the US has over China is technologically. That said, China easily outperforms the US military-industrial complex in arms production, and with her next door neighbour India (who has the strange habit of aligning with whomever serves her political ambition best - during the Cold War it was the USSR, lately it's been the EU and US) adding another billion or so heads, the US could find herself alone in the World (with the possible exception of her lapdog, the UK) and facing down three billion very angry people.

What the US does have, which should be cause for concern for every single person on the planet, is one-button access to the largest consolidated nuclear arsenal the World has ever seen. They want to talk about terrorism? How about "You're not allowed to develop nuclear for peaceful purposes but we'll just keep these multi-megaton warheads pointed at your Capital cities".

Ok, I had been too lazy to do the math. But I now feel shamed into it.

The Earth's ocean surface area: 335,258,000 sq km (from worldatlas.com)

A conservative estimate of the amount of sea level rise from AGW over the next 75 years, give or take, seems to be around 10 cm.

Volume needed to raise the ocean surface area by 10 cm: 3.35*10^13 cu m

Weight of 1 cubic meter of water: 282.5 lb (Pardon the change from metric to english, but I am more comfortable with the measures I learned as a kid. Especially as I want to talk about weight and not mass.)

Weight of the increased water: 9.5*10^15 lb, or 4.7*10^12 tons.

That seems like an awful lot of weight to take off of Antarctica and Greenland. If the continents are actually floating on the mantle, then these two would become more bouyant as all that ice melts away.

So the question for geologists is to what extent would the rise of Antarctica and Greenland affect the plate tectonics? Bearing in mind that this weight has been transferred to the ocean floors at roughly 14,000 tons per sq km?

(It would not hurt my feelings if someone would check my math.)

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/africa/lyafrica.gif

I'm not a fan of the current government in China but this a rare gold star for them from me.

I'll send it to them, but I don't think they'll be too keen.... they've already got some, you see.

And you can walk across the border from Mexico to the US. Ever wonder how things would going in Australia if you didn't have the Indian Ocean separating you from Indonesia?

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/asia/id.htm

well, hell, if you want to go pedantic, you can head off any number of directions and hit "Asia" eventually, including both east and west and tangents thereof. Go over the polar area, starting from the central US, head mostly north and a scosh west and you'll hit some reasonably populated area in Asia. Go exactly straight north you will eventually hit way the heck out in the boonies Asia, for another example. Got any other points to make? I'll make a note of this and next time instead of using the commonly accepted "east and west" terms referring to global regions, I will use a proper noun instead. Fair enough?

Wherease our least dense rural states are larger than sweden or finland, with a lower density. Taking finland, at 16/km2, which is roughly 41/mi2. Compare it to alaska, 1.2/mi2 according to http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/populations/usadensityh.htm . I was tempted to ignore alaska as an outlier, but it is at roughly the same latitude as finland, but about 5 times as large. Raw countrywide density doesn't really provide a lot of useful information, since how it's distributed matters a lot.

Oh please. Let me guess, you live in a desert area.

The US is in the bottom half by population density. http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/populations/ctydensityh.htm

Most big cities aren't in North America.

In fact, in a list of the 50 biggest cities in the world, the only ones in North America are Mexico City, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and Toronto.

Portland and Seattle are nice places but they don't even rank in the top 100 in terms of population, and certainly not in density.

The American pattern of suburban living and 40-minute freeway commuting is not at all representative of the global market, which is much, much bigger.

I was curious how this compared to various national populations, and this data may be a bit old, but... Countries by Sorted by Population This means that WoW has more players than 112 countries have people. Ten million is of course much larger than the populations of Vatican City, Tuvalu, Monaco, Luxembourg, etc. But also bigger than Uruguay, Costa Rica, Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Israel, Austria, Laos, and many more.

Maybe you should look at the time zones again.

Florida is in 2 time zones and the part in Central is a host to military bases thought to be filled with a large populations of republican voters.

58 sq km

So a bit bigger than Bermuda (zoom out) but a bit smaller than San Marino (zoom out)

58 sq km

So a bit bigger than Bermuda (zoom out) but a bit smaller than San Marino (zoom out)

not as insane as sailing here and landing an invasion force in 'Frisco bay would be.

Please note that "less insane" does not mean "sane" or "feasible".

Remember these are the same people who built the only manmade stucture visible from Earth orbit.

No, they're not.

When the Chinese put their collective wills to doing something it get done, it's just a matter of which millenium, that's all.

Okay, sure. In some millenium where no other world powers have any naval or air power to speak of, no recon satellites, and a century of global warming has made the northernmost latitudes much more temperate (without simultaneously submerging the land bridge and/or melting away the ice bridge), the Chinese could collectively succeed with such an invasion plan. My point wasn't that it couldn't be done, just that even if they did everything right, the operation would be so resource-intensive, and have so many points of catastrophic failure, that it would be doomed anyway (unless no world power opposed it and the arctic was much more hospitable than it currently is, as I mentioned above).

I mean, the majority of their forces would be occupied with logistics--transporting supplies to the invasion force. And the entire force would be strung out across thousands of miles of inhospitable wasteland. And anybody along the way could break the chain just by focusing a small fraction of their forces on it. Have you ever looked at a map of the region? Have you ever noticed how far they'd have to march, just to get out of Russian territory? Have you ever wondered how they'd defend their homeland, after sending all of their fighting people on a death march through Siberia?

I hope the Canadians do get them hooked on beer, it'll make them wish they never came to the United States.

Sadly, I don't think it would work out that way. Last time I checked, both Canada and the U.S. have large Chinese populations, who seem happy to be here in spite of our taste in beer (terrible though it may be).

See also this map and page. Chechnya is part of the green Russian territory that is in Europe. Considered to be part of Russia itself, it is found to the north of the north Georgian border inside the Russia area.

Since when does Austria have a coast?
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe /at.htm

4. Nice choice of map - see the distortion at the top. That's one thing you should be able to avoid online.

like this?

Looks pretty fukin' bit to me, dude.

That shit melts, you gonna be surfin in nebraska bitch!

>Greenland ain't that big.

Land Area 2,166,086 sq km (839,999 sq miles)

http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/g l.htm

Claimed by Denmark in 1380, Greenland is geographically considered part of the North American continent, and is the world's largest (non-continent) island, approximately 85% of it covered with ice.

by comparison, Antarctica is 13,209,000 sq km, 5,100,021 sq miles

>it's not made of floating ice, either

doesn't that make it worse? If floating ice melts, the level of the surrounding water shouldn't go up (water expands when it freezes).

OTOH, when ice that is not floating (ie glacier over land) melts, it would eventually add to the volume of water in the sea (fozen or otherwise).

Not saying that all the ice on greenland melting is going to make the sea level on the earth rise by 100 feet, but still...

not true
texas:695673 km2 (268,601 sq miles)
france:547030 km2
germany: 357 021 km2
Just one way to classify them, by surface area ;-). I know where to find the best cheese, wine, food- where to drive the fastest and where to find ZZ Top

• The epicenter of the quake happens to be where several plates meet, thus the vertical movement and the high scale.
• Indonesia, which the epicenter is located is part of "ring of fire", a line of volcanoes that stretches from Asia, all the way to Mount St. Helens down to the South Americas
• AFAIK, as the tsunami moves into shallow waters, the height increases as the speed decreases.. a recipe for deathly trouble for people living on shores.. Imagine a wall of water 100+ feet high chasing you up inland..

According to these sites:
http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats4.htm
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/eu.htm

The population of Europe + FSU (or Europe, for short)
is ~730 million.

The population of EU + FSU is ~600 million.

Erm. Where did you get that from?

The top 10 largest countries by land mass are:

Russia 17,075,400 sq km, (6,592,846 sq miles)
Canada 9,330,970 sq km, (3,602,707 sq miles)
China 9,326,410 sq km, (3,600,947 sq miles)
United States 9.166,600 sq km, (3,539,242 sq miles)
Brazil 8,456,510 sq km, (3,265,075 sq miles)
Australia 7,617,930 sq km, (2,941,283 sq miles)
India 2,973,190 sq km, (1,147,949 sq miles)
Argentina 2,736,690 sq km, (1,056,636 sq miles)
Kazakhstan 2,717,300 sq km, (1,049,150 sq miles)
Sudan 2,376,000 sq km, (917,374 sq miles)

Of this list, I'd say all but Australia, Canada and the US could arguably be considered "developing" countries.

(Source)

Not even close. At 547,030 square kilometers, France is less than 80% as large as Texas (at 696,241 square kilometers). In the words of the CIA World Factbook, it's "slightly less than twice the size of Colorado".

or that Alaska alone is larger than most of Western Europe.

I'll give you that one. All of Europe covers 3,837,081 square kilometers, while Alaska is roughly half as big at 1,717,854 square kilometers.

Distances here in the US tend to be... large. It's an 1100 mile (~1850km) drive each direction to my in-laws' house. We just got back from a quick weekend trip to a friend's house in an adjacent state which was 450 miles (~750km) each way (but we got to see Mt. Rushmore, The Badlands, The Black Hills, and Wall Drug).

... most foreigners don't underestimate the size of Australia (it's pretty evident by looking at a globe) ...

I woulden't call sweden small.
It covers 158,662 sq. miles
(source = http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/swe_province-county. htm )

And California is 155,973 sq. miles
(source http://worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/usabysiz.htm )

And its larger then most of the USA States. Only Texas and Alaska is bigger.
However I know that its mostly the south part of sweden that is has connections like that, since the northen part has alot less people living there.

The Mediterranean Sea is still a connected sea - the Straits of Gibraltar aren't THAT narrow - so it can hardly fill from the surrounding water sources (sealevel rises aside).

Q.

Examples include the periodic banning of "The Economst", arresting people holding a peaceful demonstration against the government, encouraging eugenics (i. e. breeding "smart" people), etc. The former prime minister, Lee Quan Yew, had implemented a policy of eugenics. These and other shocking examples of civil-rights/human-rights violations are described at "Singaporean-statistics web page" by Freedom House. Singapore has a law called the Internal Security Act. It is the Chinese version of the Patriot Act and is a clear violation of civil liberties. Further, most Chinese support the Singaporean laws. They even support the laws that banned or restricted "Time Magazine", "Far Eastern Economic Review", and "The Economist".

Singapore is an example of what the Chinese have done. It is also an example of what the United States must never become.

We Americans must protest the Patriot Act and its variants. We must support civil liberties and human rights. Otherwise, our society will degenerate into a place like Singapore or, worse, China.

Examples include the periodic banning of "The Economst", arresting people holding a peaceful demonstration against the government, encouraging eugenics (i. e. breeding "smart" people), etc. The former prime minister, Lee Quan Yew, had implemented a policy of eugenics. These and other shocking examples of civil-rights/human-rights violations are described at "Singaporean-statistics web page" by Freedom House. Singapore has a law called the Internal Security Act. It is the Chinese version of the Patriot Act and is a clear violation of civil liberties. Further, most Chinese support the Singaporean laws. They even support the laws that banned or restricted "Time Magazine", "Far Eastern Economic Review", and "The Economist".

Singapore is an example of what the Chinese have done. It is also an example of what the United States must never become.

We Americans must protest the Patriot Act and its variants. We must support civil liberties and human rights. Otherwise, our society will degenerate into a place like Singapore or, worse, China.