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MTV Movie Awards Webpage Pull a Lone Gunman
abouttime writes "What happens when your webmasters and the show scheduling people don't communicate? This page on the mtv site is where the winners of the awards are known before the show even airs tonight... Way to go MTV....." I wonder if it will be pulled by the time the story goes up....oh and in case you can't figure it out, spoiler alert...
They filmed it Saturday, most local news agencies/radio stations have ALREADY told the award results.... LOTR took best movie. American Pie 2 best kiss. blah blah :)
www.nationalgeographic.com is often out of sync with show times, etc. It happens at my school as well. The website is both ahead of the daily announcements, and just plane WRONG a lot of the time. Perhaps a thread: Anyone know how to prevent these mis-communications, so mtv doesn't screw up again?
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These awards aren't live. I read the winners the other day. At least, I'm pretty sure I did on MSNBC's Scoop section.
I'm certain millions of other /. readers are having the same reaction I am: I was planning on watching the award show, but now, because of this gaffe, I'll have to find some other form of entertainment tonight. Shucks, and I was so anticipating the suspense of seeing who would win these coveted awards. Maybe next year!
I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.
the awards show was sunday, it is taped. the winners have been on various websites since then
Can someone explain the Lone Gunman reference?
Huh. George Lucas really is Satan.
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Were the results really supposed to be secret until the broadcast?
If so, then how would one explain this story, from June 2
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Yeah real good... so much for watching that.
Am I lying when I tell you that im telling the truth? Or am I telling the truth when I say that Im lying?
Oh well, guess there's no point in watching it tonight..
I thought it was well established that 'lone gunmen' was now a verb; thus, the title should read, 'MTV Lone Gunman's Movie Awards'.
The winners appeared in The Hollywood Reporter (and presumably Variety) on Monday, so this is hardly a big deal...
All those award shows suck. People only watch them to see who won, not for the entertainment value. Thank you MTV for not wasting my hours in suspense.
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usually (atleast in thought) a lot of webmasters do the data ahead of time, but it auto-posts after everythings played (this is what MTV did for their last Video music awards, or so I read)
I think after they noticed the amount of hits from slashdot, they prolly just gave up and left it there! ;)
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The Fast and the Furious was nominated for best movie? This shit was spoiled before it started.
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That the awards ceremony was held last weekend and everyone knows who the winners are already? Heck, even CNN has the winners.
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Actually, the award results were widely reported several days ago, for example see SFGate.com which mirrored the Associated Press feed.
MTV themselves provided the information to the AP, so this is hardly a slip up. They clearly want the results known several days ahead of the air date. My guess is they figure this is good publicity to draw people in to watch the show.
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how are they doing the best movies of 2002 if we're still in 2002? if it's just the best movies of the last year then why the hell isn't amelie there? legally blonde? how did that get nominated? where do they get these retards to nominate movies from?
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Everyone else announced the award winners already. Read 'em on CNN a couple days ago.
Just in case the webpage gets pulled.
Best Male Performance Video
Will Smith
Ali
Best Female Performance Video
Nicole Kidman
Moulin Rouge!
Best On-Screen Team Video
The Fast and the Furious
Vin Diesel, Paul Walker
Best Villain Video
Denzel Washington
Training Day
Best Comedic Performance Video
Reese Witherspoon
Legally Blonde
Best Musical Sequence Video
Moulin Rouge!
Ewan McGregor and Nicole Kidman
Best Kiss Video
American Pie 2
Jason Biggs and Seann William Scott
Best Action Sequence Video
Pearl Harbor
The Attack Scene
Best Fight Video
Rush Hour 2
Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan versus The Hong Kong Gang
Best Breakthrough Male Video
Orlando Bloom
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Best Breakthrough Female Video
Mandy Moore
A Walk to Remember
Best Movie Video
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Well, we know for sure MTV has no taste now (in case there was any doubt).
The only saving grace is that Brittney did not win.
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The MTV 2002 Movie Awards isn't live and was filmed this past weekend. After the filming, the winners were never a secret. I read the winners earlier this week on Yahoo. Here's a June 3 article on E!Online.
Remember when they found that pic on the survivor show website that had the "winner" circled in red? How do we know this isn't the same kind of hoax?
Wow, this sure is great news! And it relates to all of us, because we all love mtv! Right guys?
chrisd - you think anyone here gives a FUCK about the mtv movie awards? come on, mang.
Joseph?
Best Male PerformanceWill Smith Ali
Best Female PerformanceNicole Kidman Moulin Rouge!
Best On-Screen Team The Fast and the Furious Vin Diesel, Paul Walker
Best Villain Denzel Washington Training Day
Best Comedic Performance Reese Witherspoon Legally Blonde
Best Musical Sequence Moulin Rouge! Ewan McGregor and Nicole Kidman
Best Kiss American Pie 2 Jason Biggs and Seann William Scott
Best Action SequencePearl Harbor The Attack Scene
Best Fight Rush Hour 2 Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan versus The Hong Kong Gang
Breakthrough Male Orlando Bloom The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Breakthrough Female Mandy Moore A Walk to Remember
Best Movie The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Best Cameo Snoop Dogg Training Day
Best Line Legally Blonde "Oh, I like your outfit too, except when I dress up as a frigid bitch, I try not to look so constipated."
--Reese Witherspoon
Best Dressed Reese Witherspoon Legally Blonde
to those that allow MTV to tell them what to like. Now they don't get the full experience of being brainwashed by the crappy music, moronic presenters, and brain-dead audience.
I cry for them.
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Don't worry - now it's posted here the website won't be up long enough for too many non-slashdotters to read the results.
Is this what "normal" people really like? Legaly Blonde? Give me a friggen break!! And people think Hollywood is hurting from the internet. They are just producing crap!!!!
if common sense was common, wouldn't everyone have it?
What channel is that on?
here are the winners
Best Male Performance: Will Smith: Ali
Best Femaile Performance: Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge
Best Onscreen Team: Vin Diesel and Paul Walker, the fast and the furious
Best Villain: Denzel Washington, Training day
Best Comedic Performance: Reese Witherspoon, legally blonde
Best Musical Sequence: Ewan MacGregor and Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge
Best Kiss: Jason Biggs and Sean William Scott, american pie 2
Best Action Sequence: Perl Harbor, the attack scene
Best Fight: Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan versus The Hong Kong Gang, Rush hour 2
Breakthrough Male: Orlando Bloom, LOTR
Breakthrough Female: Mandy Moore, a walk to remember
Best Movie: LOTR
Photos.
The awards show was held last Saturday. The winners can be found on any news site. No new news is being given away on the MTV site.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/760552.asp
Actually, it looks to me (judging by the color scheme on the site) that the winner listed on those pages is the winner of the MTV opinion polls. Is that the same thing as the winner of the actual award?
If they're different then this might just be a case of lousy web design rather than a case of bad management (of course, those two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive either... hm.)
This would make a wonderful example for a usability test.
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I hope I'm not alone in really hating awards shows. Do celebrities really need another reason to get full of themselves and pat themselves on the back? I used to work in an area where I'd meet various celebrities all the time and the only one I have ever met that isn't a jerk/bitch is Martin Short, who is actually quite funny in real life.
I'll still watch the movies that look good, but I say "screw 'em" to celebrities. They should be embarrased about who they are.
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... the night it was aired.. I believe it was Sunday.
Big deal.
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Crap, sorry. When I made the comment, it said ZERO posts on this on the front page... or else I wouldn't have put it again...
who cares. (sorry, i had to post _something_ it was so barren up here.)
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Now if they would just publish the results of the 2004 elections, they'd really have a scoop.
Hell, they could probably publish it 3 days after the election and beat the Supreme Court.
I think I know what I will be doing tonight...
"Hey, I'll bet you five bucks that Will Smith is gonna get it for Ali..."
"Your on!"
DANG! i didn't win... maybe next year.
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considering MTV is just a puppet of the RIAA and the MPAA, and we *all* know about the geniuses that work for them. sheesh. let me guess, "crossroads" (britney spears) won for best film?
Satanists get good grades too...suspiciously good grades
Oh how dare you spoil the movie awads that I would never watch anyways...
What happens when your webmasters and the editing people don't communicate?
JonKatz.
What, MTV gives out awards during the annual MTV movie awards? I'm trying to imagine why -- I suppose they need an excuse to show the studio sponsored DVD advertisements, and giving out meaningless awards was as good an excuse as anything else.
The real dissappointment for me this year is that MTV hasn't released a lot of publicity photos of scantily clad women at this year's event. Without the promise nearly-naked hollywood chicks, I really can't find any reason to watch the show anyhow.
I'm sure as hell not going to watch another two hour long advertisement for "The Fast and the Furious" and "Moulin Rouge" without getting something from it.
Slashdot is jumping the shark. I'm just driving the boat.
Some of their choices, and nominations for that matter sucked. Even NOMINATING Britney Spears, come on!
Maybe the web guys were sick of a bunch of slickster suits not inviting them to any of the good post-awards parties.
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Like, really.
The fools who are going to watch MTV are probably snuggled down on the couch, scarfing pop Korn and geting (going?) down in front of the tube (of KY-Jelly?) waiting for the next spring break T&A fest.
Big , uh, deal.
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Who voted for crap like Pearl Harbor and Brittney Spears in Crossroads? OH God how did I know it was her movie?
The biggest sellout of them all wins top prize!
Does anyone still had any doubts about the relevance of these bullshit awards?
Stop Watching eMpTV
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Umm...the page shows best male performer... If you go to the best movie page, LOTR did win.
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...I should care?
MTV stopped being relevant to people with any kind of good taste 10-15 years ago. You could also call MTV's Movie Awards a "Who's Cutest Contest" and still be pretty accurate.
This really isn't a troll--it's a true statement.
Who did what now?
Wouldn't the phrase be more meaningfully called 'pull a chrisd,' if what you're trying to say is 'foolishly spoil a surprise for millions of people?'
oh my gosh. this post has multiple purposes. 1) i don't care about mtv. i only watch it to see what artists i can rip off by downloading music. 2) yes, i was one of the people who were saying, "oh boy! lookee here! mtv fouled up and posted results online!" but then fellow slashdotters have opened my eyes to see that they were already online to begin with! 3) i saw like 40 "first posts". how many first posts can there be?! i thought there was only supposed to be one first post! and i saw like 10 different versions of the results. as if cnn and mtv didn't have the results already, /. has to carry them too.
anyway, in closing, we all need to post faster to see who can get first post, we all need to stop watching mtv and turn on a friggin' radio, and we all need to be more conscious of the results for stuff.....
If we give our two cents, but it's a penny for our thoughts, do we get change back?
now I don't have to find out who won. Not that it matters in any sense other than pure silly stupid entertainment.
Judging by the comments about the results being released by many news outlets, I think its fair to say that /. go trolled with this one, even if it was inadvertent.
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That's why MTV stands for Money Television.
..but chrisd makes it work. Turn a mistake into a legend, a legend into opportunity. And it got me to use up a few more clicks.
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The show has already aired in some timezones, and the winners were announced in a press release.
It must be a very slow news day.
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that should be "pulled a slashdot"
hehe..if you go to the Lord of the Rings website, it says right on the first page: "LOTR wins MTV movie award for best movie"
Oh come on. Don't you watch TV? The "winners" have been published on TV, newspapers, whereever you want to look all week! It's not a live show! Here's an LA Times article that says better than I can. Suspense isn't the point of these awards. It's entertainment...
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Hey folks,
MTV does not do the Movie Awards live and I believe it was even filmed days ago and most of the mainstream media was issued releases of who won what a few days ago. There is no suprises with the Movie Awards since it is taped. People only really watch it for the skits and shit.
Come to think of it I saw all the winners on one of those entertainment tonight shows or something the other day.
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I wonder if it will ever be as commonly used as "pulling a 'Homer'"?
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Angelina Jolie (Toom Raider) nominated for Best Actress? Fast and the Furious as the "Big Winner"? A Knight's Tale should not be nominated for anything! "Better a silly girl with a flower, than a silly boy with a stick!" WHAT?!
Good thing the opinions of my teen peers aren't the only ones.
i was gonna just watch em fFor jack black. who cares who wins? they're all just MPAA puppets....
With a tongue like that, Jar Jar can only be a male or a lesbian.
Since Binks was wearing pants, I'm going to assume he was a male. Let's play the game!
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The only reasons to justify watching was having Jack Black as a co-host and a performance by the White Stripes... even that wasn't enough to get me to tune in. I guess this could be considered one more reason not to! :)
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Actually, it's not. It's that old woman that was a friend of Anakin in Episode I (the one that warned about the storm). That's supposed to be the big "Vader is Luke's father"-type shock for the prequel trilogy...
that Legally Blonde was nominated for almost every category, you have to ask yourself...
Do I really care???
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Oh my God! The Load Gunmen had a show??
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
MTV pulling a Lone Gunmen is a Cowboy Neal of a story, meaning nobody gives a ****.
Who in their right minds would watch MTV Movie awards when Stanley Cup Finals is on anyways??
GO WINGS!!!
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Okay, everyone else already knows the results of the awards. However, there is one serious error on the MTV web site...
Vin Diesel was nominated for Best Male Performance
It is ludicrous that MTV would screw this up! I know it was prerecorded and the results had been announced elsewhere but jeesus!
I don't mean to demean the mentally challenged people of the world, but is it just me or do you get the feeling Vin Diesel arrived at the awards in a short, yellow limo?
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This isn't the first time that MTV's Web stuff has been poorly implemented. Around January of 2001 my friends and I began to watch MTV2 pretty regularly.
Lo and behold we found the wonders of MTV's Control Freak show. While a video was playing on the show, you could visit their web site and vote for the next video to air. All this was implement ed with a simple "click on this video to vote for it" page that was simply replaced/edited then refreshed each time the new video began to air.
Well we had already implemeted a web interfaced, Linux based, MP3 jukebox hooked directly to our stereo and also to an FM-stereo transmitter for longer range listening. Now we had the opportunity to have our very own Video Jukebox (granted with a somewhat limited selection).
So we wrote a program to parse the page for the voting URL's, display them for selection, and then create http connections submitting the appropriate vote. On the normal interface this would send you to a new page asking you to "Click here to vote again" and the whole process would repeat itself.
Now normally you would wait for a response that the vote submission went through. We didn't really care if it did or not since we were submitting votes as fast as we could open the connections successfully.
This seemed to work fine, however we were still unable to watch anything we wanted since the rest of the world was voting as well. On the videos that were evenly split, we would supply the (many) deciding votes, but for the runaway hits we didn't have a fast enough connection with our piddly 768 u/d DSL modem (~1000 votes/min)
That prompted a redesign of the program. Version 2 allowed for distributed vote submission. With the resources that we had (root on a few high performance computers connected to a burstable T3) the distributed program soon allowed us to submit ~15000 votes/min.
This solution worked like a charm. Start the threads and the percentage on our video would start to climb like a mountain goat. Switch the video we were voting for and that one would climb. Nothing like seeing a piece of crap (Busta Rhyme's YoYoYo) go from 1% to 97% in less than 2 minutes.
Well that next week or the week after that, Control Freak was not being aired. "No worries, we'll hit 'em next week."
The next week, the show came on. We started voting for our favorite video. The percentages went up. And up. And, wait a minute the percentages just dropped 25%!
Seems that MTV had caught on to our scheme and was culling our votes from the pool. Bastards!
Well, we kept at it to see if we could find the cutoff limit for votes from a single IP address (that was the only way we could think of for them to remove just our votes). That way we could run the client for x amount of time/votes and then shut it off for maximum effectiveness.
That worked for a week. The next week we had upgraded the client to "spoof" random IP's with each vote it sent out to bypass the culling machine.
It bypassed the culling machine alright. That week the percentages would climb, then something broke. The percentages went to 20K+% on each video. Then our video went to 0%. So we chose a new video. It went to 0%.
Right then we shut down the operation. Up till that point, we had been doing nothing wrong (well cept maybe the IP spoofing of votes) since they had encouraged users to vote multiple times. We had simply removed the human factor of the voting process. But finally we had broken THEIR program.
We surmised that the program held the vote tallys in an int and when we started submitting votes, the ints overflowed and caused a serious problem with negative numbers being used to calculate the percentages. If we had continued to vote in that manner MTV could have sued us for breaking their computers. Very bad scene for 3 college students with no money. Not to mention the fact that the computers connected to that T3 were not ours, and we probably would have lost those jobs and been sued for misuse of company resources.
But, I'll tell you that was probably the most fun I have ever had hacking any type of program/protocol/interface/hardware. This produced immediate results that you could not only see, but your friends on the other side of town could see as well.
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Here is the reference you are looking for. Read the first few responses.... the other 600 all say the same thing.
"It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance." - Thomas Sowell
And the worst part about it, is that for the 5 mins I turned it on to see the white stripes, I was incredibly disappointed. They totally made them into pop shite, I think it's the dancers that did it. Why does MTV think everything is better with dancers?
Wankers.
To the /. editors... Rather than get /. readers whipped into a 'this is news' frenzy, please consider doing some basic research on your stories before publishing them. Four days ago, CNN published those winners, as simple news (not even a 'leak') back then.
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Maybe chrisd was just hoping other people make mistakes similar to his original Lone Gunman fiasco.
doubtful. nothing in soap operas or x-files is ever really dead.
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I always thought that the purpose of awards ceremony was to honor those who did a good job, not to pretend to be a suspense movie. Publicizing the awards does not ruin the awards show -- unless the awards show is incredibly badly done. The awards show has its own benefits -- you typically get to see the work up for consideration, you get to see the artist him/herself, you get to hear their gratitude. Some people also like to see how the stars dress up. All of these things are completely separate from whether a list of winners are available.
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in case you can't figure it out, spoiler alert...
Hmm. That would imply that I was biting my nails on the edge of my seat, just dying to find out who won the Blandest Small-Chested Actress award.
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And the nominees for most hated "journalist" on slashdot are:
Jon Katz.
And the winner (loser) is...
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...or is Vin Diesel possibly the stupidest human being on earth? :]
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Who picked the winners? 13-year olds?
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To the /. editors... please consider doing some basic research on your stories before publishing them.
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irony : The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See Synonyms at wit. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: "Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" (Richard Kain). An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity.
Duh, I think "lone gunmen" fits this definition pretty well as an "ironic" statement. I'm well aware it's a play on words referencing JFK - the LG origins ep from X-Files explains it quite clearly with Deep Throat II's parting exchange on the loading dock. And although you couldn't know that I remember very well The Day Kennedy Got Shot (impossible to forget the adrenaline rush, the world was different then, lots of people actually believed we would get nuked from the Russians by sunset), lots of people weren't even born at that time (or failed to become X-Files fans since) and might very well not get the "lone gunmen" reference. That doesn't make them a "jackass", and I for one would never "hate having to explain" a significant historical reference so that we all have a cultural identity to share regardless of our age or experience. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it....