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UK Government to Tax Linux?

An anonymous reader writes "The UK government is looking at introducing a tax aimed at software published under GNU GPL. It claims that because programmers do it for free, it is losing out on income tax and that commercial software companies (read Microsoft) are at a disadvantage. Some pressure group has already put up a website with more details and news site Techworld have got a quote from a Treasury spokesman saying that they're only considering it."

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  1. OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Worst April Fool's article ever

    1. Re:OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Wonder if they'll tax me when I pick up trash on public property. No good deed should go unpunished! ;)

    2. Re:OMG by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Funny

      So, are all of the articles today April Fools jokes or are some of them real?

      I'm just picturing an out-of-work programer named B0b getting taxed for developing open source missles and then needing to get free food to survive and keep programing. B0b's a tough, dedicated bastard.

      TW

    3. Re:OMG by SoTuA · · Score: 1
      Nah, I think this tops easily all the crap posted by michael earlier.

      But, even though it does top that crap, it still sucks.

    4. Re:OMG by mentokthemindtaker · · Score: 2, Funny

      What? Real articles? On Slashdot?

    5. Re:OMG by SphericalCrusher · · Score: 1

      How in the hell would they tax something that doesn't generate profit? April Fools joke... uh huh.

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    6. Re:OMG by Kick+the+Donkey · · Score: 1
      Er... I think you mean 285...

      What self-respecting ST fan doesn't know the ROA?

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    7. Re:OMG by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 1

      Too damn right. This gave me a sense of humour failure.

      You guys across the pond think its funny to laugh at the eccentricity of our way of life and the crap we have to put up with.

      What you don't realise is that your polititians get ideas from watching what goes on over here. So I hope you are still laughing when they decide to copy
      the new taxes that are rumoured to be coming:

      Breath tax,
      Beard Tax,
      Baseball cap tax,
      T-shirt tax,
      skateboard tax,
      belch tax

      and wait for it... ...Fart tax

      My dog has three heads and my neighbour is a car eating spider.

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    8. Re:OMG by Le+Marteau · · Score: 1

      Bah, April fools should NOT be done on a sodding news website period, even slashdot.

      Really! Humbug! It throws their whole credibility in the crapper! If they keep it up, fine journalists like Cmdr. Taco, Katz, and Pudge will go to work for less prestigious news sources, like the Washington Post.

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    9. Re:OMG by aled · · Score: 1

      What the f#$@ do you mean Real? Do you mean that sometimes slashdot articles are not jokes? Oh my God! My entire perception of reality is shifting...

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    10. Re:OMG by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 1

      He gets arrested for not paying his taxes. This solves his room and board problem, at any rate.

    11. Re:OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      But if he doesnt get free food, etc. maybe he'll get RFID tagged :)

    12. Re:OMG by mpe · · Score: 1

      What you don't realise is that your polititians get ideas from watching what goes on over here. So I hope you are still laughing when they decide to copy the new taxes that are rumoured to be coming:

      In which case what is needed is a lawyer tax (especially in the USA), politican tax, corporate "fat cat" tax and so on...

  2. Even a 100% tax is ok by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is 100% of "free"?

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    1. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by TyrelHaveman · · Score: 1

      Good point.

    2. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by bheer · · Score: 4, Informative

      I know this is a joke, but in a way the UK (any .gov, really) bills open source already. Folk who install/deploy/sell Linux solutions pay Value Added Tax on the services they render. The only reason open source volunteers are -- and will remain -- exempt is that they don't enter into transactions with the organizations they're volunteering code to. You can't tax volunteer activity.

    3. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, the reason they can't use the VAT on open source work is that usually, there is no value-added.

      Yeah, I got karma to burn.

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    4. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah, but it's not 100% of free

    5. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by Gadzinka · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, it isn't.

      There was an attempt in Poland to tax linux this way. The thinking behind it was that if it is a gift for a commercial entity, than said entity has to pay Donation and Inheritance tax for it. And the base for this tax wouldn't be the price paid (zero). As it is with all donations, the base for the purpose of taxation is normal market price. Polish Revenue Service wanted it to be price of MS Office for OOo and price of Win NT/2k for Linux system.

      Now, this news we are writing about is April 1st, but the history with trying to tax Linux, Open Office etc in Poland was true. Luckily it failed, although Finance Ministry didn't issue official statement or act about it in order to not tie hands of some enterprising clerks in revenue service.

      Unfortunatelly I cannot find anything about it in English. If you know Polish google for site:linuxnews.pl podatek

      Robert

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    6. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by ajs318 · · Score: 3, Informative

      VAT is sales tax and is chargeable on anything not considered "essential". The definition is somewhat subjective. VAT is not, for instance, charged on children's clothes {though it is charged on adults' clothes} nor on basic foodstuffs for preparation at home {but it is charged on take-away food}. Newspapers, magazines and books are not subject to VAT either.

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    7. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by Shakrai · · Score: 1, Funny
      Actually, the reason they can't use the VAT on open source work is that usually, there is no value-added.

      Ouch! We need a "+1, Great Big Brass Ones" mod. Just to mod-up ballsy posts without giving any karma. Are you listening CmdrTaco?

      Yeah, I got karma to burn.

      Yeah but do you have a shotgun and home security system to defend yourself with when they come after you?

      Disclaimer (I do have karma to burn but I don't have a shotgun): I completely disagree with what the parent says but I still wanted to get in my point about the "Great Big Brass Ones" upmod ;)

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    8. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by ballpoint · · Score: 2, Informative
      You can't tax volunteer activity

      Oh yes, my government can.

      If you build a house in my country, and get help from a volunteering friend, you have to be extremely careful to avoid paying VAT on his/her services. The government will assess the house, and calculate a higher VAT amount if they think that you haven't payed enough.

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    9. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by Dravik · · Score: 1

      VAT? What is this VAT you speak of? Here is USA you put things in VATs, not give them to government. You Europeans have strange ways. I would not want to put a volunteer in a VAT and give him to the government. It would seem that you would run out of volunteers pretty quickly. Only thing I give to the government is taxes. We keep those low in my state by rejecting them then voteing out fools who want more of my money. Hail great state of Alabama where Gov Riley will lose next election and we don't put friendly people in VATs.

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    10. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by ballpoint · · Score: 1
      Hint: the last T in VAT stands for TAX. The VA stands for - meaninglessly - Value Added. It's just a kind of hefty (+/-20%, depending on the country) sales tax.

      As to keeping the taxes low in AL: Good For You !
      By the way: are the jokes about the trailer parks true ?

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    11. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by HFKIRSpyderMonkey · · Score: 1

      Best excerpt from this link?

      SCO spokesman Blake Stowell was among the first to speak out against Linus' move. "How can Mr. Torvalds claim to license our intellectual property?" he asked pointedly. "We are examining his right to do this and we may sue him or a member of his family."

    12. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by Dravik · · Score: 1

      Which jokes? Trailer parks do exist about as much as in the rest of the country. They do tend to attract tornados. The only this that pulls them more is strip malls. But then again, due to a very low cost of living I was able to buy a decent house 60,000. Thats with a half acre of land. Actually had a guy from Philly ask me if it was a double or a triple. Took me four day to find out what a double and triple were in that context. We generally call those things apartments down here.

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    13. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by TykeClone · · Score: 1

      Isn't the VAT more insidious than sales tax is in the states? Sales tax is only placed on the end use, but isn't the VAT applied at each stage of production?

      Raw materials - taxed

      Manufactured parts - taxed

      Assembled thing - taxed

      Wholesale things - taxed

      Retailed things - taxed (and this is the only place in the states where the sales tax is charged).

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    14. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by jackbox · · Score: 1

      >> "This stereo record can not be played on old tin boxes no matter what they are fitted with."

      Hey! This sounds familiar. I've seen this on the back of one of the old LPs in my collection. Now which one is it??? TIA!

    15. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by ishmaelflood · · Score: 1

      Yes, tax is payable at each stage, but you reclaim the tax on inputs.

      So for instance, if I buy a PC for $1000+$100VAT, and then sell it for $3000+$300 VAT, I end up paying the gummint $200.

      It works better than you might think, in that the end user is the one who actually pays the tax, everybody else in the supply chain just passes it on.

    16. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by mpe · · Score: 1

      They could simply tax what it's worth, instead of what you paid for it.

      If this was done efficently some software, including a number of proprietary offerings, would require the government to pay money to people :)

    17. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by tiger99 · · Score: 1
      Gordon Brown can tax volunteer activity. It is of course immoral to do so, but he has managed to tax almost everything else that used to be free. He has few choices left now, maybe the air which we breathe?

      I was hoping at one stage for a return of the Window Tax, with one modification consisting of a letter "s", but since it was Brown who proposed a Criminal Monopolist for a knighthood, I don't hold out much hope for that. In fact it gives considereble credence to this alleged April Fool, as Brown obviously favours M$,

    18. Re:Even a 100% tax is ok by TykeClone · · Score: 1

      I realiaze that, but it still an extra item to be tracked, and it also inflates the cost of the final product.

      I don't have a problem with it, but it seems more morally wrong than a sales tax on the final item.

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  3. That sucks by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least with the Microsoft tax, I get a neat holographic coaster.

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  4. tax it all you want... by Hooya · · Score: 3, Funny

    a 100% sales tax on $0 = $0. sheesh.

    1. Re:tax it all you want... by Sesostris+III · · Score: 3, Funny

      Er, no. It is 100% tax on $699 surely?

      I make that ... $699!

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    2. Re:tax it all you want... by spoonboy42 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's totally irrelevant, my friend, as a 100% tax on zero pounds sterling = 0 pounds.

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    3. Re:tax it all you want... by ronchie02 · · Score: 1

      Unless they didn't tax it by a percent of the amount it costs, but rather a flat rate.

    4. Re:tax it all you want... by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Interesting

      a 100% sales tax on $0 = $0. sheesh.

      I wanted to give my niece my old car. The car was a piece of junk, but it was a running piece of junk. If I were to "give" her the car, then the state would charge her tax on what it estimates it's value to be, which I'm told was between $750-$1500... basicly base price for a running car. Tax in her region would have been 8.5% if i'm not mistaken... plus misc fees and such. Fair and reasonable, but still a $63.75 fee + misc other fees involved in the transfer of a car and yearly taxes.

      Even selling it to her for $1.00 the state would be skeptical as to whether this was an honest deal, or a trick to avoid paying sales tax. I had to sign an statement of the car's value. Which was fine by me.. I signed a statement saying "it's had accidents, it has over 350,000 miles on it, family $1.00, non family $100.00".

      The point is you can tax things with no value, or little value. It could be a flat non percent tax, or a tax of what the goverment believes the value should be.

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  5. Thank God! by Knight+Thrasher · · Score: 4, Funny

    Real news on April 1st! Thank you! And please dear LORD no Open Source Tax!

    1. Re:Thank God! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Real news on April 1st! ...to make up for the bullshit we get on the other 364 days.

    2. Re:Thank God! by haus · · Score: 1

      Remeber, it is leap year, we have 365 other days this year...

  6. OK, I'm bored by bigHairyDog · · Score: 1, Redundant

    of the April fools jokes... 5 in one day is excessive.

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    1. Re:OK, I'm bored by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "OK, I'm bored of the April fools jokes... 5 in one day is excessive."

      Every single April 1st, there's always some git who gets modded up for saying the exact same thing. Slashdot's been running 365/24/7, you can can take a day off for silliness.

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    2. Re:OK, I'm bored by q-the-impaler · · Score: 1

      Last year, or maybe the year before (they all run together), /. posted multiple duplicate stories on April 1st. Even more than normal! Anything is possible.
      Luckily it only lasts 24 hours.

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    3. Re:OK, I'm bored by chef_raekwon · · Score: 4, Funny

      of the April fools jokes... 5 in one day is excessive.

      you think that is excessive - maybe you should try working instead of trolling on slashdot. now that, is excessive, my friend.

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    4. Re:OK, I'm bored by Monkelectric · · Score: 1

      Taking a day off to be silly is fine, but nobodys even trying here. These stories don't even pass the laugh test. The only thing that has me mildly curious is the google mail story which, has both elements of the real and unreal. I remember a joke last year getting me really riled up and then I realized ...

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    5. Re:OK, I'm bored by mcc · · Score: 1

      And every year, said git is right.

      The problem isn't that they take a day off for silliness. the problem is that the april fools jokes are consistently unbelievably lame. Humor with the element of surprise removed is...?

    6. Re:OK, I'm bored by dolphinling · · Score: 1

      The other thing about GMail is that yesterday, gmail.google.com was a working address. It's been taken down, but I thought it was for real at first.

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    7. Re:OK, I'm bored by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, dammit... April First should be a friccin' holiday!! It'd give us all time to actually execute all the Evil Jokes (TM) that we've thought of over the months previous...

      Oh, and WTF? Five AF posts? Methinks the grandparent poster is behind :)

      SB
      (who thru pure happenstance has this day off - only one for the next two weeks *weep*) but who has been *very* busy today *Evil Cackle*

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    8. Re:OK, I'm bored by Joe+U · · Score: 1

      As you can see, this ties in nicely with the recent Ask Slashdot item The Worst Development Job You've Ever Had?

      Worst job ever: Slashcode developer.

    9. Re:OK, I'm bored by pyros · · Score: 1
  7. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    So, a tax on my free time is it?

    What next? Sexual Enjoyment Tax??

    1. Re:Great by bigHairyDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      What next? Sexual Enjoyment Tax??

      No, I think most /.ers would be immune from that one...

      Bernie :o)

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    2. Re:Great by ookabooka · · Score: 1

      Of course, and following that is a charity tax (after eliminating deduction of course) and a general waste of time tax, if you arent producing anything, the government looses money, so its in their best interest to charge you a tax for doing nothing.

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    3. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's called a wife.

      Posted anon because she reads ;-)

    4. Re:Great by Phekko · · Score: 4, Funny

      What, in Britain? Don't be daft, nobody enjoys it there ;)

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    5. Re:Great by stephenisu · · Score: 4, Funny

      actually they call it a repetitive stress injury.. or carpal tunnel.

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    6. Re:Great by gellenburg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes.

      It would be called the Sexual Enjoyment Tax Initiative.

      We will be releasing a distributed client to assist in this endeavour called "SETI@Home".

      Have a good day.

    7. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      its in their best interest to charge you a tax for doing nothing.

      Well, this certainly is an issue to be evaluated. Consider the following activities:

      - volunteer work: This deprives the government of rightful tax funds as individuals and organizations conspire to provided services often in competition with the government. Better to have you work an extra 20 hours weekly at your job, apply a tax and then have the government provide those charitable services. Not only is volunteerism cheating the government from rightful funds, but it's depriving them of applying all those helpful "strings" and conditions to the money and resources provided to the needy.

      - unemployment: What are you unemployed bums doing? Not paying taxes, for certain, if you've had your unemployment benefits lapse. This is shameful citizenship and it needs to be dealt with per firm, forceful action. Unemployed individuals should be taxed $10/hour for every hour under 40 they do not work. This would affect the underemployed as well and motivate them to take that extra gas station or telemarketing job.

      You people need to understand that your government has costs. Paying large Senate salaries to Senators who are too busy to show up for work, sending billions of pork to wealthy incumbant telephone companies under the guise of "providing broadband" (new broadband providers meeting the challenge need not apply per the rules - you don't return enough funds to your Congresspersons wallet), etc. all take lots of cash, and if you fools wanna prevent further increases in the deficit, you're gonna have to pay for that free time.

    8. Re:Great by nate1138 · · Score: 1

      What next? Sexual Enjoyment Tax??

      They'll rethink that one when they get a dripping manilla envelope filled with used condoms and one bloody clown suit.

      Now's one of those time you wish they had a mod for -1 Fucking Nasty, isn't it?

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    9. Re:Great by Mateito · · Score: 5, Funny

      > What next? Sexual Enjoyment Tax??

      You're not married, are you?
      Some of us already pay that.

      (You insensitive clod!)

    10. Re:Great by lwd0000 · · Score: 1
    11. Re:Great by rsmeds · · Score: 1

      Well, following the same logic as free-software-tax, a free-sex-tax should obviously be paid by anyone giving sex for free, since it puts hookers at a disadvantage.

      At least that way there'd by a really good alternative to "Not tonight honey, I've got a headache" : "Not tonight honey, we can't afford the tax!"

    12. Re:Great by javatips · · Score: 1

      What about Sexual Self-Enjoyment Tax... all /.ers will be left with nothing!

    13. Re:Great by nate1138 · · Score: 1

      the government looses money

      I wish they would "loose" some money on me.

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    14. Re:Great by w42w42 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Already done. It's called child.

    15. Re:Great by linoleo · · Score: 1

      or lower back pain :-)

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    16. Re:Great by Bigman · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a 'settee at home'.. and it has contributed to my sexual enjoyment at times...

      lol

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    17. Re:Great by BlueLightning · · Score: 1

      Yes, and it will make sure you're at your computer 24/7. That way you'll never have to pay any of the new tax.

      Then again, some of us here won't even need the client :)

    18. Re:Great by Mr_Dyqik · · Score: 1

      Shirley you mean -1 Nasty Fucking?

  8. Very cute. by Jaywalk · · Score: 4, Interesting
    And the "what you can do" plea to get readers to get major news organizations to pick up the story is a nice touch. Nice example of viral marketing. It would be a bit more convincing -- but less funny -- if they got people to write Parliament instead.

    I'd dearly love to see Forbes get suckered by this one. They've been such dorks about anything to do with Linux, it would be par for the course. It looks like they bought the Google mail story hook, line and sinker.

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    1. Re:Very cute. by baudilus · · Score: 1

      Forbes isn't the only one - check out CNN.

      gg Google!

    2. Re:Very cute. by Thanatopsis · · Score: 1

      Cause it's true, they are launching a mail service. The April Fools joke from Google is about a job on their new moon base. Here's Google's April Fools Joke

    3. Re:Very cute. by Draoi · · Score: 4, Informative
      It looks like they bought the Google mail story hook, line and sinker.

      Actually, it's true

      And hey look, Slashdot got a mention;

      "It's going to go down in history as one of the biggest pranks ever pulled," wrote one message poster at Slashdot.org, which bills itself as a news provider for nerds.
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    4. Re:Very cute. by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1
      Also you have to love how Slashdot posters get quoted in all sorts of articles these days, and they always cite a single highly rated post and make it sound like it represents the voice of geekdom on the Internet. Usually there's enough diversity in even the highly modded posts on Slashdot to show that there is no one opinion out there (well, perhaps we all agree that SCO are a bunch of scumbags...).


      Early adopters, loud opinions, and lazy journalists. Great combo.

    5. Re:Very cute. by Jaywalk · · Score: 1
      Call me a cynic, but I'm still not buying it. A free email account that allows 10meg attachments and has a 1gig limit? And they plan to pay for it with spam they target by scanning your private correspondence? I can't believe that's a workable business plan. And I don't believe Google does either.

      If they ever offered such a service, I'd sign up for an account (maybe several) right away. And I'd never use it for correspondence. I'd use it for high volume data transfers, using those 10gig attachments. Pirates could use it to store encrypted zip files of their MP3 collections. What would you store (encrypted, of course) if you had 10gig online for free?

      And ask yourself, would you store "every email" you ever wrote in an account that periodically scanned your personal mail and used that data to spam you? I think they're stringing along Forbes, and anyone else who will listen, and won't say "April Fool" until tomorrow.

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    6. Re:Very cute. by Bombcar · · Score: 1
      What happens to PageRank in the proximity of a black hole? Is there distortion that might result in link relevancy reduction or popularity warping? Could this somehow be harnessed to generate more dates for engineers?


      From the Google Lunar Job Page. :)
    7. Re:Very cute. by Gabriele+Capone · · Score: 1

      It isn't spam, it's text ads that you agree to by using their service. You open an e-mail and it looks at the contents for keywords. Yahoo or Hotmail could read all your e-emails if they wanted, too. All the messages are already on their servers. 10GB attachments? Maybe you mean 10MB, but since you said gigabytes twice I'm not too sure. There will probably be a data transfer limit per month with a small attachment limit or something.

    8. Re:Very cute. by Jaywalk · · Score: 1
      10GB attachments? Maybe you mean 10MB, but since you said gigabytes twice I'm not too sure.
      Mea culpa.
      I meant 10meg.
      Gotta learn to preview more carefully.
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    9. Re:Very cute. by Digz · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about??? I LOVE SCO!!! Especially today!!!! ;)

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    10. Re:Very cute. by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      well, perhaps we all agree that SCO are a bunch of scumbags...

      Speak for yourself! I was thinking something more along the line of a clogged solids filter at a sewage treatment plant.

    11. Re:Very cute. by stretch0611 · · Score: 1
      A free email account that allows 10meg attachments and has a 1gig limit?

      Actually for a few minutes I thought it was a joke also.

      However:

      It was originally posted on March 31, not April 1.

      The original article linked to an NY Times article (Also dated 3/31). Somehow I doubt the NY Times posts many April Fool Jokes.

      With Google coming out with a later press release stressing that the mail service is not a joke, they would end up losing a lot of credibility and have user backlash if it turns out to be a hoax.

      Call me a fool if you want, but I can't wait to sign up for the service.

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  9. Not Funny by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    This one's too scary and too possibly real to be funny.

    Anyone familiar with the use of emminent domain to seize low value property and give it to private developers to turn into something worth some property taxes?

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    1. Re:Not Funny by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Sounds like a good idea to me. Private development is the only way to improve a blighted area."

      Yup, if there was only some way to do that to some of the projects here in New Orleans....take out some of the crime hotspots in the middle of the city.

      They're actually doing a little of this, tearing them down, and making mixed income areas out of them...subsidized housing for low income people that WANT to be good neighbors, and work (no drugs and gangs)...and up to $200K houses all together.

      But, it just isn't happening fast enough......

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  10. must be a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If it's real, I'm fine with that as long as they also tax all charitable donations, community service and all forms of generousity towards others.

  11. UK politicians... by agusus · · Score: 1

    April Fools.

    1. Re:UK politicians... by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

      The real problem is that they are also May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January, Februray and March fools as well.

  12. Nice try! by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1

    Almost got a muffled laugh out of me with that one. Keep it up and you'll have some good jokes by about, oh say, the 31st of April.

    --
    True story.
  13. Windows now bundled with Linux! by twocents · · Score: 1

    Just bundle Windows with Linux, that should shut them up about any unfair advantage, as noted April 1 (-:

  14. Re:Looking for a date! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What the fuck? I just got mod points and I tried to mod this post up. When I did I got a message that said it was "administratively frozen" and that users cannot moderate it.

    WTF?!?!?!

  15. April Fools .... again? by kwandar · · Score: 1

    Come on, enough is enough. This one is so bad that I don't even have to look at the references to know its an April Fools joke.

  16. is this a suprise by bwy · · Score: 1

    Is this a suprise for a country that has a pretty much across the board ~18% tax on any item or service sold? The government is obviously greedy so of course they're going to be figure out a way to tax stuff that is free- Linux, air, walking on grass, you name it. It is all fair game to these crooks.

    1. Re:is this a suprise by mikechant · · Score: 1

      Yes, the government is *so* greedy to provide all those shiny new schools and hospitals, and extra doctors and nurses and teachers that everyone always says they want. Or do you think that Gordon Brown just converts it into a big pile of gold at the treasury that he sits on at night while he cackles "All mine, all mine" repeatedly?

    2. Re:is this a suprise by bwy · · Score: 1

      the government is *so* greedy to provide all those shiny new schools and hospitals, and extra doctors and nurses and teachers

      I'm sure similar defenses were offered of Stalin's regime, no? Stalin was a better man, though. He founds jobs for his fellow comrades and went ahead and took everyone's money- not just 50 or 60 percent of it. Gave people less to worry about and gave them things they clearly couldn't have had under any other system. Don't be proud of being a socialist. Be embarassed that you aren't a communist. They've implemented what socialists tried to do and failed.

    3. Re:is this a suprise by mikechant · · Score: 1

      OK, I'll bite.
      1/ You equate a democratically elected Social Democratic government (not even Socialist - they ditched Nationalisation years ago) with a murderous Communist dictatorship. That would be about the same as equating a mildly rightist democratic government with a murderous facist dictatorship.

      2/ I'm neither embarassed nor proud to be a Socialist or a Communist since I'm not either of these things. I agree with certain policies of various moderate parties of the left, right and center. I'm strongly in favour of greater personal freedom.

      3/ My main criterion for polcies is practicality. I believe that the National Health Service in the UK provides excellent value for money and a practical solution for universal healthcare. I also think that having a healthy workforce benefits our economy. The vast majority of voters and all three main parties (left, centre and right) in this country are strongly committed to the National Health Service, so in the UK the NHS is not a Socialist/Left Wing policy at all.

      So basically all your assumptions and conclusions are fundamentally flawed.
      I suppose now I can expect some further unfounded abuse?

    4. Re:is this a suprise by bwy · · Score: 1

      I'm strongly in favour of greater personal freedom

      Can you elect to not participate in the National Health Service plan, and as a result either get a refund check or not be charged the up-front taxes?

      I really don't want to participate in the U.S. social security system but participation is mandatory. I'm not sure what else to call the compulsory participation in programs such as these when you will be put in jail if you don't pay or choose to participate.

      Like you, I favor personal freedom too. I favor free choice. I don't see how it is a crime to decline participation in all these various programs. And what next? What is the next big thing that government decides I need so they'll force me to pay for it?

  17. In other news, Habitat for Humanity... by tcopeland · · Score: 1

    ...will be taxed for building houses for free.

    As a member of the Union of Concerned Carpenters, I applaud this new policy.

  18. One of the better ones by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 1

    Sadly, this is probably one of the more plausible 'fool' stories. The UK government has had a love-affair with Microsoft for quite a few years now. Gave me a bit of a shock until I remembered the date :).

  19. California already collects tax on Linux by Texas+Rose+on+Lava+L · · Score: 4, Funny

    The 8% sales tax comes to $55.92 per Linux installation.

  20. let charge by & by crovira · · Score: 1

    x% of $0.00 = right...

    Otherwise, its not a fair tax.

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  21. eDrugTrader disagrees by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you like shiny plastic and psychedelic colors, I would say that your money might have been better spent on hallucinogenic drugs.

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    True story.
    1. Re:eDrugTrader disagrees by alonsoac · · Score: 1

      If he payed for Microsoft software he's probably already on some kind of hard drugs.

  22. I can't believe this... by Doches · · Score: 1

    Would Europe really give up it's biggest advantage over American software companies?

  23. Different versions of the same jokes... by TheSurfer · · Score: 1

    I saw a little different version of this April 1 "joke" earlier today on NedLinux.nl.

  24. The problem with April Fools Day stories by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1

    is that there is no idea that is so stupid, evil, or pointless that SOMEbody SOMEwhere wouldn't think that it's a good idea. Most probably someone in the government.

  25. This one isn't a joke by Meor · · Score: 2, Informative

    This being published today is just a coincidence. Check the BBC, it's been in process for a while. Puting things out for free is a compeditive advantage analogous to Microsoft providing free browsers when there is a commercial alternative.

    Personally I welcome the tax, I think it will even out the playing field a bit and create competition.

    1. Re:This one isn't a joke by kent_eh · · Score: 1

      So, by the same logic(?) will they also be taxing the volunteer labours of organizations such as Habitat for Humanity or the Red Cross or any of the hundereds of other organizations who give freely of their time and resources, and might be donating something that some other company sells?

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  26. The other option is... by Tuxedo+Jack · · Score: 1

    MS could give its products away for free in the UK.

    It's not like they don't overcharge in other regions to more than make up for it.

    --

    Striking fear in the authors of godawful fanfiction, I am here, appearing in darkness, Tuxedo Jack!
  27. If it only was a joke by pdan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In my country (Poland) a few years ago they decided that they should put VAT (value added tax) on free software. They found some law that enables tax officials to reassess value of goods if they seem underpriced. They assumed value of a Linux distro to be a price (not value of course) of Windows Server and for Open Office of MS Office Pro.
    Fortunately all media ridiculed this idea and they backed off.

    1. Re:If it only was a joke by pdan · · Score: 1

      Don't mod parent down. Unfortunately it is true. VAT is not like sales tax. It is overcomplicated, tends to have plenty of loopholes and creates enormous bureaucracy. And bureucracy is like cancer. It will always find new ways to grow by introducing new, usually absurd, regulations.

      BTW How many slashdotters know that carrot is a fruit according to EU law?

    2. Re:If it only was a joke by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      "BTW How many slashdotters know that carrot is a fruit according to EU law?"

      You know, for some reason that doesn't suprise even a little bit.

      Jaysyn

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    3. Re:If it only was a joke by Phleg · · Score: 1

      "Hrm, the free software tax didn't go through. You wanna try taxing meat instead?"

      If you don't know much about Poland, don't bother modding this comment.

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      No comment.
    4. Re:If it only was a joke by Trolling4Columbine · · Score: 1
      "Under socialism, the state owns the means of production"

      Wrong. That's communism. In a nutshell, socialism is characterized by private entities generating wealth and government redistributing it via taxation and social programs. Basically, the companies make the money, and the government takes it.

      --
      Socialism: A feeling of discontent and resentment caused by a desire for the possessions or qualities of another.
  28. Argh by retro128 · · Score: 1

    Dammit, I hate April Fool's. I almost fell for that one. But with all the Big Brother shenanigans the Brits have been up to lately, can you blame me?

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    -R
  29. Yay! Let's tax volunteerism! by smagruder · · Score: 1

    As if isn't already difficult getting people to volunteer their time and efforts. Geez!

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    Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
  30. Might Sound Crazy by mattwarden · · Score: 1

    Yeah, it might sound crazy, but I'm afraid it's just going to give people ideas.

    I should do research on whether there was previously an April Fools joke about a partnership of recording industry companies gaining FBI-like powers.

  31. New poll - how many April Fools jokes is enough? by Infonaut · · Score: 1
    Thank Gawd it only comes once a year.

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  32. I'm not surprised by E1v!$ · · Score: 1

    The Brits tax everything to death. That's how they got where they are today.

    1. Re:I'm not surprised by cavebear42 · · Score: 1

      If I remember correctly, that's what caused the US to give 'em the finger. Damn taxes.

    2. Re:I'm not surprised by Lochin+Rabbar · · Score: 1

      You remember correctly but have been misinformed. The colonists were probably the least taxed people in history, even the infamous taxed tea cost less than smuggled tea. The tax issue was just a hook on which to hang unspecified grievances. The real issue of contention was the colonists wanted to expand westward and the British didn't want to go to war with the native peoples.

    3. Re:I'm not surprised by Lochin+Rabbar · · Score: 1

      Nicely put, I stand corrected.

  33. What about other free services? by neuroslime · · Score: 1

    If they do decide to tax open source software, they should also tax other free services like religious institutions and non-profit organizations. Of course they would never do that, for all these years they've been giving special tax breaks to orgs like that. Actually, now that I think about it, maybe there should be special tax incentives to developing Free software.

    Get your own Artificial Intelligence - Verbots

  34. Great News! by geomon · · Score: 1

    I hope all countries save one adopt this strategy.

    That would leave the one remaining free-software country with such a HUGH software development advantage that the rest of the world would be lining up to "find out how they did it".

    It figures that globalization and free-trade advocates always fuck themselves silly trying to protect corporations that *marginally* have a presence in their host country. These corporations give a rats-ass-not about the host country and do everything possible to drive living wages through the floor, cut benefits, and ship taxable income to off-shore havens that benefit NO ONE but themselves.

    Sad Truth: People Deserve The Government They Vote For.

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    "Rocky Rococo, at your cervix!"
  35. Boxed sets are already taxed. by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

    Not only are they taxed, but they actually cost a good chunk of change in the first place. Problem solved!

  36. The Brits Would Tax Your TV If They Could... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Brits Would Tax Your TV If They Could...oh wait...

    1. Re:The Brits Would Tax Your TV If They Could... by radish · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Funny that. I recently moved to NYC from London, and although there's no TV License here, I have a whole bunch of weird surcharges and taxes on my cable bill (other than regular sales tax). These add up to considerably more than my TV License used to cost in the UK. So I pay more, and get much worse TV for it. Oh well.

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      ---- Den ene knappen er powerknapp, den andre er Bender voice knapp "Bite My Shiny Metal Ass"

    2. Re:The Brits Would Tax Your TV If They Could... by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      Yes, and the BBC is advert-free {well, they advertise BBC publications but they just say "available at all good (book|record|whatever)shops" and forthcoming programmes, and it is all tasteful}. It's really worth it not to see advertisements .....

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    3. Re:The Brits Would Tax Your TV If They Could... by damiangerous · · Score: 1

      Your cable company is screwing you. On my $151.66 cable bill (which includes broadband) I have a grand total of $11.52 in taxes and fees. $6.32 of that is state sales tax and $5.25 of that is the "Franchise fee" with only 5 cents being a "FCC Fee". That's $63 a year in "fees". I guess you could get a B&W license for that price, but a color one is up around what, $200? And that's just comparing the "fees". Let's not compare my miniscule sales tax with the downright confiscatory VAT.

    4. Re:The Brits Would Tax Your TV If They Could... by Dark+Bard · · Score: 1

      I was in New Zealand when they dropped the TV tax. I bought a TV while it still applied but the seller said they weren't even bothering to collect the tax because it was being dropped in a month anyhow.

    5. Re:The Brits Would Tax Your TV If They Could... by swb · · Score: 1

      I think the franchise fee typically goes to offset the costs of all the "free" shit that the cable providers offered to provide if they were granted the municipality's cable TV monopoly. I think in Minneapolis it goes toward the studios used by community television and the broadcast of city council meetings and god knows what else (free CATV for some city departments or offices?)

      The irony, of course, is that its just a public-private tax and the "free" stuff isn't free, since the citizens are paying for it.

  37. Well ... by boarder8925 · · Score: 1

    Well, whether or not the site was an April Fools Day joke, it already got Slashdotted.

  38. Re:Too bad... by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

    Too bad we can't moderate the articles...

    That is *sooo* clever! Did you think of this all by yourself? I've hardly ever seen a post like this here before! I mean, I've seen it for a *lot* of stories, but the way you used it on an April Fools post is genius! You are too clever! I was just reading the posts to this story, thinking *exactly* what you said and *boom*, there it is! You should be modded up a lot for this insightful yet clever post! Maybe even funny! Thank you for this little pearl of wisdom!

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    - Charles Darwin
  39. Do NOT risk jokes like this! by What+is+a+number · · Score: 1


    You just know that someone will take up the cause to make it for real...
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    I type this every time.

  40. April Fool's aside... by Trolling4Columbine · · Score: 1
    ...I'll believe any story involving an EU country levying new taxes.

    Mod me troll if you don't accept this, but com'on, the VAT??? WTF? What's next, an Air Tax for all of the oxygen Europeans use over the course of a year?

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    Socialism: A feeling of discontent and resentment caused by a desire for the possessions or qualities of another.
  41. Bad Planning by Lattitude · · Score: 1

    I watched this server die right in front of me. No doubt hosted on someone's sister's i386.

    What's the point of making a high-larious website and posting the link to /. when exactly 6 people can come look before it's dead?

    These jokes could be funny, but most of us wouldn't know!

  42. Tax for beathing... by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 1

    When I was told that Thatcher had a tax for breathing, I laughed. Then I found out the truth:

    Poll Tax

  43. Use Tax by mar1boro · · Score: 1

    This may be a funny 4/1 joke and all, but I would not be suprised if
    someday this happens. If Open Source takes a big enough chunk of
    enterprise, governments will begin to notice the loss of revenue.
    They will then begin imposing use taxes based on profitability per seat.

    What can I say, I'm a cynic.

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    -- "It was as if the paint factories had decided to deal direct with the art galleries." - Thursday Next
  44. More Taxes!!! YES!!! by LynXmaN · · Score: 1

    Then we should also tax the silly walks and instaurate the Ministry of Silly Walks!

    That would be really nice

    Oh and put a tax for looking at the ducks in Hyde Park as well

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    May the source be with you!
  45. Re:Yay! Let's tax 4/1 cluelessness! by Trolling4Columbine · · Score: 1

    Maybe that would keep people like you who JUST DON'T GET IT from further polluting the world.

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  46. Microsoft wants this. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 2, Funny

    Upon receipt of this news, Bill Gates ordered every lobbyist at Microsoft to stop whatever they're doing and lobby the government for a tax on GPL software in the U.S. as well.

  47. thingy! by stevenrieder · · Score: 4, Funny

    Obligatory Monty Python sketch:

    Third Official: "Well most things we do for pleasure nowadays are taxed, except one."
    Politician: "What do you mean?"
    Third Official: "Well, er, smoking's been taxed, drinking's been taxed but not ... thingy."
    Politician: "Good Lord, you're not suggesting we should tax... thingy?"
    First Official: "Poo poo's?"
    Third Official: "No."
    First Official: "Thank God for that. Excuse me for a moment." (leaves)
    Third Official: "No, no, no - thingy."
    Second Official: "Number ones?"
    Third Official: "No, thingy."
    Politician: "Thingy!"
    Second Official: "Ah, thingy. Well it'll certainly make chartered accountancy a much more interesting job."

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    Hier staat een stukje tekst.
  48. April Fools or reality? by GoldenWolf · · Score: 1

    Let's just hope that this type of tax garbage doesn't come to the US. We've already got enough problems with the DMCA, RIAA, MPAA, and Microsoft.

  49. A tax on... thingy? by then,+it+was+nigh · · Score: 1

    Well, it'd certainly make chartered accountancy a much more interesting job...

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  50. Here's my take on it... by Eggplant62 · · Score: 1

    /me waves private parts in air in front of me...

    Tax this, mutherf'r.

  51. argh!!@!#@ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I hate aprils fools nonsense! When respectable sources of information play these ridiculous games it makes this entire day useless. Everywhere you go you have to constantly be on the defensive for these stupid pranks. If you want to play some retarded joke on a friend in private then go for it, but why must you poke holes in my daily sources of public information????

  52. What? by vwjeff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Another April Fools article. We all know that Linux is not real. You can't tax something that does not exist. Grow up people.

    1. Re:What? by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1
      Another April Fools article. We all know that Linux is not real. You can't tax something that does not exist. Grow up people.

      In other news, SCO has announced their lawsuit against IBM and Linux users was all an elaborate April Fools joke. SCO CEO Darl McBride was quoted as saying "0mfG!!! lol0lol! st00p1d l4m3rz n00bz we r 0n1y fucking w/u!!!".

    2. Re:What? by eclectro · · Score: 2, Funny

      Another April Fools article. We all know that Linux is not real

      Yeah, I heard that they stole all the code from SCO.

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      Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
    3. Re:What? by Trepalium · · Score: 1

      Well, given the fact we're talking about GOVERNMENT, you never can be too sure. Some would tax air, if they could figure out how to account for it.

      --
      I used up all my sick days, so I'm calling in dead.
  53. I've had enough... by LostCluster · · Score: 1

    Michael, knock it off with all of these April Fools stories. We're getting sick of them.

    What? Taco's doing it too? Uh... wake me up tomorrow.

  54. Come on, say it with me: by morelife · · Score: 1

    F-r-e-e-B-S-D L-i-c-e-n-s-e, R-e-v-i-s-e-d.

  55. RTFA by Beliskner · · Score: 2, Informative
    What is 100% of "free"?
    RTFA! They want to tax the sale of open source software. I can see their point, if I'm on welfare and I write an OSS version of Oracle 10i which gets included free into the next version of Mandrake, I've just put ten thousand Oracle people out of their jobs, and if Oracle goes bankrupt, then the Country's Banks will have to write off those massive debts. Argentina comes to mind.
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    1. Re:RTFA by fredrik70 · · Score: 1

      OMFG, Darl was right all the time!!!!

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    2. Re:RTFA by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      Only if the ten thousand Oracle people suck. in which case they dont deserve a job. Capitalism is based on the idea that money does it better. No time to start waffling now.

    3. Re:RTFA by Bruj0 · · Score: 1

      And exactly why Argentina comes to your mind?

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    4. Re:RTFA by Salsaman · · Score: 1

      If the guy is selling his open source version of Oracle, and it does the same or better job as Oracle for a lower price, then how is it fair to tax him to protect a company which produces a worse, more expensive product ?

    5. Re:RTFA by Beliskner · · Score: 1
      If the guy is selling his open source version of Oracle, and it does the same or better job as Oracle for a lower price, then how is it fair to tax him to protect a company which produces a worse, more expensive product ?
      Because if I'm on welfare and write software for Mandrake or whatever, then the Government is in effect paying me to write software and I give this free to a company which can then undercut salaried workers from a competing company. If Mandrake was paying me a full salary then it would be a fair competition. This is perhaps similar to a company comitting fraud to obtain Government grants so that they can undercut their competitors, you'd expect the Government to tax/stop it.

      To compete with Mandrake/Suse/Redhat Microsoft will have to fire all of its developers and tell them to live on welfare and contribute voluntarily to Microsoft. This is impractical.

      --
      A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
    6. Re:RTFA by Salsaman · · Score: 1
      Ah, I see. You are assuming the government has a right to the tax money of the Oracle employee. I believe the government has the right to tax, but I don't believe you can a take a particular 'parcel' of money and say the government has a right to it whatever the circumstances.


      To compete with Mandrake/Suse/Redhat Microsoft will have to fire all of its developers and tell them to live on welfare and contribute voluntarily to Microsoft.

      To compete with Mandrake/Suse/Redhat, Microsoft will have to produce a better product which warrants the higher price.

    7. Re:RTFA by Salsaman · · Score: 1

      And yes, I do realise it was a joke. But it's still scary if you really think like that.

  56. April Fool's Banner by EmCeeHawking · · Score: 1

    Slashdot even has some great April Fool's Banners, too. The banner for this article appears to be paid by microsoft and states:

    "Linux costs are not lower than Windows"

    Good one, Taco!

  57. Great day for bad news by rjelks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a little offtopic like many of the posts today. What better day to release a bomb on the tech community. If I were in charge of PR for a government agency or large company, I'd use April 1st to announce bad news. No one would believe it. Not that I think the UK is going to tax linux, but I wonder if anyone is sneaking in potentially bad news today in the hopes that it will be ignored as a joke.

    -

    1. Re:Great day for bad news by el_gregorio · · Score: 1
      last year, my company announced massive layoffs on April 1.

      "you're laid off."
      "what??? oh wait... ha ha, april fools."
      "no seriously. get out."
      "ouch...."

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      "You want a toe? I can get you a toe by three o'clock... with nail polish."
  58. Time to tax IE and all of the other free software. by westfirst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft "gives away" IE. Sounds like a taxable item to me. And they give away plenty of other pieces of software for various reasons. Salesforces everywhere are known for claiming that someone is getting thousands of dollars of freebees, if they only purchase this minute. Gads, I think proprietary software companies "give away" more software than open source groups.

  59. I don't remember ... by ToadMan8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    April fools being this Stupid. An I getting older or is this year particularly Stupid? what a waste to have Mod points today! And to make matters Worse, SlashDot's accuracy typically so questionable I have no idea which to take as seriously as usual.

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    1. Re:I don't remember ... by Frennzy · · Score: 1

      Mod points last three days. Take a nap. Come back tomorrow when you're not so grumpy.

    2. Re:I don't remember ... by bogie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The thing is its just not really funny anymore. Now we know to expect it and that takes all of the fun out of it. Really it would be better to make this a regular news day and then add in one fake story.

      April fools and big pranks are still funny depending on the situation. Just not at slashdot.

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      If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
  60. Start Taxing Non profit organizations? by keester · · Score: 1
    Frankly I'm sick and tired of the Salvation Army providing food and clothing to the poor and other various public services. Let's start taxing there asses. Hey, you fake fucking Santa, guess what? Your day's of handing out free lunches are over.

    Actually, let's start taxing people's tithes. God has enjoyed omnipotence for quite long enough; it's time for the goverment to get it's share. Assholes. Dave

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  61. That has been already done! In Poland. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Tax offices in some cities interpret the tax law:
    - you get the Linux/OpenOffice package for free, but its value is comparable to MS software so your income is equal to value of equivalent MS software, and tax you on that.
    - alternatively they try to get VAT on Linux as well

    Also it seems there is a legislation that will make it easier to tax Linux.

    links:

    http://www.computerworld.pl/artykuly/12135.html - subscription required

    http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-polish/2002/ de bian-user-polish-200203/msg00346.html

    http://www.linuxfan.pl/dyskusje/2001.4/linstar.p hp 3

    http://hedera.linuxnews.pl/_news/2002/03/21/_lon g/ 1138.html

    http://hedera.linuxnews.pl/_news/2001/04/27/_lon g/ 182.html

  62. Forbes-Lyons is at it again; check this link by ultrabot · · Score: 1

    Observe yet another masterpiece of FUD by Daniel Lyons @ Forbes.

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  63. If it can be taxed, donations can be deducted! by ibirman · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I gave away at least 100 CDs with Linux on them over the past year. Can I take a tax deduction on each one?

    What will the UK value each copy at? I would say a complete distribution with software should be valued at $50,000US. So my charitable contributions are easily worth a few million.

  64. This just in... by GPLDAN · · Score: 4, Funny

    The UK has decided to Tax performances of Shakespeare in the park. "Giving away performances of Hamlet lowers the box office revenues of England's finest theaters", Tony Blair was heard to say. "It's got to stop, this giving things away. It's anti-Ameri... uh, it's not becoming of the nation."

    Elsewhere, the Queen Mum was heard to exclaim, "Taxation, taxation, taxation! My forefathers believed in it, and look what happened to them!"

    1. Re:This just in... by stephenry · · Score: 1

      "Elsewhere, the Queen Mum was heard to exclaim, "Taxation, taxation, taxation! My forefathers believed in it, and look what happened to them!""

      Forget about her forefathers... Look what happened to her! -She's DEAD!

    2. Re:This just in... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      errr... the queen mum died a while back... :-P *salutes*

  65. On a serious note! by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 1
    One could already argue that there is a tax on the Linux operating system, although it is not a 'tax' in the ordinary definition of the word.

    In real terms, the amount of money required to create a Linux installation on any give computer is not only actual, but as well.

    .

    .

    .

    Furthermore, a tax need not be a percentage of the sales price or a percentage at all, and in this case it certainly follows what is known as a 'Flat Tax' or set dollar amount.

    SCO has clearly set the tax for using Linux as $699 per seat, or your first born child - whichever comes first.

  66. Ooh, good one! by Cranx · · Score: 1

    Had me for 5 whole seconds! Biatch!

  67. Re:Time to tax IE and all of the other free softwa by spacefrog · · Score: 1

    By that same logic, they should be taxing everything else that comes bundled with Windows. Special assesments for notepad, solitaire, random DLL's, etc.

    However, Linux users don't want to know what the special assesments will be for /bin/bash and /usr/bin/passwd. We won't even mention what Emacs is gonna cost you.

  68. British Tax? by CosmicDreams · · Score: 1

    A British Tax on Linux? Oh, the folks in Boston are not going to like the sound of that.

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  69. I misread it, sorry by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

    Sorry. I misread it. I thought it was some sort of mascot-emplacement story: "UK Government to Tux Linux"

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  70. Ther're right you know. by geekoid · · Score: 1

    I mean, they should keep a fair playing field. To prove the OS is more government friendly then closed sourse, I will gladly let them tax me 100% of all free work.

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  71. Re:Yay! Let's tax 4/1 cluelessness! by smagruder · · Score: 1

    I guess you don't understand the concept of sarcasm, eh?

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  72. But linux is NOT free by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

    Isn't it $699 per licence?

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  73. I agree, we should tax ALL volunteer work by GuySmiley · · Score: 1

    When anyone gives their time on any project, not just programming, the govt is losing precious tax dollars. We should start taxing parenting and at-home daycare centers, youth sport coaches, hospital volunteers, the adopt-a-highway groups, church groups, book clubs, and the rest. Actually, any time spent not punched in on the clock is time not paying income taxes and that should be stopped too. Watching your kids play baseball for free should also be taxed, as that is time you could have been working and the state was losing sales tax by letting you watch for free. Sounds fair to me.

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  74. SCO Surges by adler187 · · Score: 2, Funny

    In related news, gullible SCO investors who read the article have predicted the demise of Linux and have invested heavily in SCO. Just look at the surging stock price of SCOX!

    (Man I wish that was an april fools joke and that SCOX had really crashed, well there's always tomorrow)

  75. Re:Looking for a date! by perdu · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's cause mod points are now taxed....

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  76. Is this April Fools? by Unregistered · · Score: 1

    These days it's getting kinda herd to tell.

  77. The unfortunate part is... by jejones · · Score: 1

    ...that the premise is so plausible. Government relentlessly seeks things it can tax so it can buy votes by promising people things the government can steal for them, and I can't help imagining some legislator seeing the thread and thinking "Yeah..."

  78. Sheesh by Grimster · · Score: 1

    Look at the date folks...

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  79. Linux Tax by Tokerat · · Score: 1


    Okay, how does 10% sound?

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  80. Taxman... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

    In the immortal lyrics of The Beatles:

    Let me tell you how it will be,
    There's one for you, nineteen for me,
    'Cos I'm the Taxman,
    Yeah, I'm the Taxman.
    Should five per cent appear too small,
    Be thankful I don't take it all,
    'Cos I'm the Taxman,
    Yeah, I'm the Taxman.
    If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
    If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat,
    If you get too cold, I'll tax the heat,
    If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.
    Taxman.
    'Cos I'm the Taxman,
    Yeah, I'm the Taxman.
    Don't ask me what I want it for
    (Taxman Mister Wilson)
    If you don't want to pay some more
    (Taxman Mister Heath),
    'Cos I'm the Taxman,
    Yeah, I'm the Taxman.
    Now my advice for those who die,
    Declare the pennies on your eyes,
    'Cos I'm the Taxman,
    Yeah, I'm the Taxman.
    And you're working for no-one but me,
    Taxman.


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  81. Swedish tax logic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I fell for that april fools joke too. Here in Sweden, the authorities have in the past seriously proposed taxing things like picking berries in the forest for own consumption and heating your house with your own wood. Taxing free software would fit nicely into that logic.. /Anders

  82. How about something small, like 5%? by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 1

    I think those advocating a 100% tax are going a bit overboard. The UK government should start with something small, like 5%. On a typical Fedora or Debian distro, that comes to nil pounds UK ($0 US), which is fairly affordable, even for out of work geeks. Starting at a reasonable rate would help people get used to the idea of the tax.

  83. Worth noting by Zigg · · Score: 1

    The author of the Techworld article, Maxwell Cooter, is a friend of Simon Travaglia -- see the BOFH FAQ.

    Hope this puts it in perspective for the easily fooled...

  84. C'mon.... by starphish · · Score: 1

    Can someone post an artick today that is not an April fools joke? They don't ALL have to be jokes.

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  85. Let me be naive thinking its not an april fools... by mrjb · · Score: 1

    If the software is being developed for free, somehow those people must have another source of income, such as a job for instance. If those people have jobs, how can the government possibly miss on income tax? Now let's assume those people get by *without* a job still developing software for free, same question - if there's no job in the first place, how does the government miss out on income tax?

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  86. bad joke by oohp · · Score: 1

    This is the worst April Fool's joke I have ever heard.

  87. Easy solution? by Maljin+Jolt · · Score: 1

    Deny U.S. government to use your software by license (dis)agreement.

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  88. Typical by the_thunderbird · · Score: 1

    We get taxed for everything in this place, now they want to start taxing hobbies? They are bloody riduclous, they tax cigarettes, booze, road tax, petrol tax, council tax, death tax, what is there in this country that isn't taxed?

  89. UK to announce more new taxes. by MoFoQ · · Score: 1

    "The UK government will announce more new taxes, including a retro-active tax to recover potential tax income lost during the 60's on free love and sex as well as a tax on air very shortly. You pay for gas, why not pay for the air that helps cars run?" according to George Needsadentist, a UK government spokesman.

    Scary, huh?
    What's next in addition to "air tax," "sex tax"?
    A "good teeth" tax? Blonde tax? Blue eyes tax? Tax on talking or tax to move a muscle? Or a think-tax; think and be taxed.

    I guess one can say that the UK govt have been smoking something they shouldn't have (or an incest/imbreeding crack can also apply).

    1. Re:UK to announce more new taxes. by MoFoQ · · Score: 1

      don't forget "tax on anonymous cowards"

    2. Re:UK to announce more new taxes. by Phlipping · · Score: 1

      Fine then, I'll register, happy?

      And while I'm at it, I'll take responsibilty for #8743358 #8743508 and #8743472

      But all the same, I'm not depriving the govt tax by posting as anon unless I am taxed for registering - but that's not going to stop them, in fact they'll tax registering just so they can tax not registering.

    3. Re:UK to announce more new taxes. by Phlipping · · Score: 1

      BTW: all that is tongue-in-cheek...

    4. Re:UK to announce more new taxes. by MoFoQ · · Score: 1

      anonymous isn't really anonymous...remember the Omniscience Protocol?

  90. A 100% tax on "free" would be... by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    SLAVERY!! Duh.

  91. Remember... by schmaltz · · Score: 1

    Britain is the country that taxes another "free" commodity, television. One is useless, the other useful, the reader will decide which is which... :)

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    1. Re:Remember... by schmaltz · · Score: 1

      The notion that the state has no responsibility to broadcast TV/radio that hasn't been influenced by commercial concerns is

      Well, I'll disagree there... it's true that state-funded film, TV and radio production have brought out some fantastic productions (thinking of the canadian film boards, American PBS and CPB, and their relatives in UK, NL, DE etc.)

      It's the American businessmen running Congress and the Whitehouse who seem to want government out of what we call "public broadcasting." The PBS and its relatives crank out some damn good productions. However, voters collectively don't pool together enough election-year dollar$ together to influence our elected "representatives" to get them to think public broadcasting and production is a good thing.

      The conservatives even tried to kill NEA (National Endowment for the Arts) awhile back, because some tiny sliver of its funding was awarded to racey artists like Mappelthorpe.

      They label it "socialism" ... like that was a bad thing.

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  92. In the colonies by guibaby · · Score: 1

    We call this a barter tax. Legally you are supposed to pay taxes on anything you get for free. In other word; If you buddy helps you build a computer and the reasonable and customery charge for that service is $100, you should claim that $100 as taxable income. BTW: This isn't the worst April Fools story I have ever seen, but its close.

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  93. Ack!! no!! by Jane_Dozey · · Score: 1

    Shhh!! The british government might not see it as such a joke and actually try to bring it in!

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  94. WHITEHOUSE.ORG BUSTED!! by fadethepolice · · Score: 1

    It has finally happend.. The media clampdown has begun Whitehouse.org has been busted

    1. Re:WHITEHOUSE.ORG BUSTED!! by OUIke · · Score: 1

      I noticed this earlier today. anyone know what happened?

  95. GPL Violation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seeing as how the UK government is using Linux, wouldn't it be a GPL violation for them to attach additional conditions to the use of Linux in the UK?

  96. When Free Isn't Taxed as Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Don't joke about this. When politicians want to tax, they can get very creative and very strange.

    Take cars. Normally the tax on the sale and title transfer for a car is based on the selling price. But suppose a parent wants to help out their child by selling them the almost-new family car for $1. Or suppose someone wants to help someone who's down for their luck by selling them an old beater for a work car for $1? Suppose they even give the car away?

    If you think the tax will be on that $1, you don't live in Washington state. Here, the state tracks what a car might be worth had it sold on the open market and taxes it as if it sold at that price.

    In similar fashion, the U.K. or any other country could tax Linux as if it were Windows. Many governments get particularly nasty with taxes that target businesses rather than ordinary citizens. They have less voter wrath to fear.

    Be careful when you joke about the future. It might just happen.

    1. Re:When Free Isn't Taxed as Free by fishbowl · · Score: 1


      "Don't joke about this. When politicians want to tax, they can get very creative and very strange."

      They might seem strange, but, they usually get at least one thing right: They look to collect taxes where money is changing hands.

      The dumbest politician on the planet knows better than to try to get blood from a turnip.

      It won't be good for your political career if you're the MoP or Congressman who pushed through a tax act that results in negative revenue.

      I'm so tired of April 1 though. I couldn't even digest the mainstream news today.

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  97. Right, fuck this by JoeBaldwin · · Score: 1
    This is bullshit. If this is real (and I hope with every piece of my fibre that it is not) then I am going to be VERY angry.

    If you're in Britain, heres what you can do...

    • Email the government, check if is real and if it is a plan. The treasury public email address is public.enquiries@hm-treasury.gov.uk. If real, move on to the next step.
    • Contact a news source, giving details, URLs, any reply you got from the Treasury, whatever. I recommend The Independent and The Telegraph, they seem less likely to reject something like this.


    Do whatever you can, this is outrageous.
  98. Re:Time to tax IE and all of the other free softwa by advocate_one · · Score: 1

    yeah... just think of all those dollars/pounds worth of software that get given away free on magazine cover disks...

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  99. Sexual Enjoyment Tax by Prototerm · · Score: 1

    Yes, but it only applies to programmers. It's called a Sin Tax.

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  100. Not Surprising by ddelrio · · Score: 1

    What they're saying is that it's illegal to give your own work away--because it doesn't belong to you. Your work belongs to your government. In Newspeak, "slaves" are known as "citizens".

  101. over seas developers by timmarhy · · Score: 1

    How are they going to work that one out? surely they don't think they are missing out on the income of all the overseas developers they work on OSS? wait wouldn't this same reason make them prevent out sourcing overseas since they are missing out on the income tax when jobs go over seas? what a crock, this is a blatent money grab.

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  102. where do you draw the line? by customjake · · Score: 1

    If you can tax free software, can you tax me for running a blog where i give out free info? What about chat forums where IT professionals give out technical support for free, should we tax that? What about a great patent idea that someone gives away for free, are you gonna tax that? When someone develops cold fusion, i'd appreciate it if i didn't have to pay through the nose for it. And we'll have to tax ppl for borrowing books from the library. See where this goes...

    Whether this is a hoax or not, taxing "free" software is a bad idea. I'm a firm believer that you get what you pay for. I paid for linux with hours of cursing and frustration the first half-a-dozen times i tried it. I paid for linux by figuring it out when we didn't have those nice GUI installers and making it recognise a network card when that took hours.

    The world needs to wake up and figure out that everything's changed and that it needs to figure out how we all might have to re-adjust what we think in order for us to move on. What amazes me, is that M$ has all this money, yet they can't seem to compete with "free" software. You'd think with all that money their product would be better.

    I propose throwing your MS boxes in the nearest body of water, and relive the boston tea party.

  103. Tax Man by Dark+Bard · · Score: 1

    Brings to mind a Beetles song.

  104. They can't do that by donbrock · · Score: 1

    It would be downright un-American.

  105. UK needs a reality check by Kelz · · Score: 1

    It claims that because programmers do it for free, it is losing out on income tax and that commercial software companies (read Microsoft) are at a disadvantage.

    Isn't that the whole POINT of open source?!

    To be able to compete with huge corporations you must be
    1. Affordable (free is good)
    2. Customizable (anyone can edit it)
    3. Better than the product you are competing with (any arguement there?)

    This is a case of too many lobbyists and not enough people with the rocks to go against them.

    1. Re:UK needs a reality check by Kelz · · Score: 1

      Wow. Next time I need to RTFA.

      Good god why do I even TRY to whore insightful mods on April 1st?

  106. well, ok by N3wsByt3 · · Score: 1

    But he's right about one thing: the new change of heart of Red Hat is disturbing, to say the least.

    Ah well... Mandrake Linux was always the better one anyway.

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  107. enough! by chachob · · Score: 1

    cmdrtaco has gone a bit overboard today with the joke posts...

  108. I really, REALLY hope by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 1

    it's an April's fool joke, but if it is it's a very elaborate one. The fact that there's a pressure group's website scares me. I mean, why would Techworld go as far as that? Don't they have something better to do than registering domain names for fake April's fool websites to accompagny their fake April's fool articles?

  109. dont let your kids sell lemonade by buht · · Score: 1

    uh oh.. you folks in UK better be careful then. I wouldnt let your kids sell leomonade on hot sunny days if you do then the UK will be missing on on taxes.

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  110. Ha Ha Only Serious by Pembers · · Score: 1

    You nearly had me there, Taco. This is just the sort of thing that someone like Microsoft would try to foist on a government that's repeatedly shown itself to be less than clueful about IT matters. As such, I think it's quite a good April Fool - it's only just on the wrong side of being completely plausible.

    The Techworld article and the "Lose-IT" website are tantalisingly vague. One suspicious detail is that lose-it.org.uk was registered on 12 March, while the Budget was not made public until 17 March. Either the owner had inside information (not entirely impossible) or he was planning to do something for 1 April.

    Our government is trying to grok the internet, so they have various official documents available online. The complete text is here, as a set of 14 PDFs. I haven't read the whole thing (what do you expect on Slashdot?!), but a search through each of them for "computer" and "software" turns up nothing that looks relevant.

    Overall, then, nice try, thanks for playing, see you again next year.

  111. Hot Water Bottles by pjt33 · · Score: 1

    "Continentals have sex. The British have hot water bottles."

    1. Re:Hot Water Bottles by mikechant · · Score: 1

      That quote is just sooooo last millennium my dear. Everyone's at it like kinky rattlesnakes in GB these days, even the over 80's. They sell vibrators *that actually work* in respectable department stores now.

  112. Poland's Free Software Tax Proposal [in English] by Compact+Dick · · Score: 3, Informative


    Here's an English edition of the story: Poland: It's official! Tax for Free Software [2000-11-20].

  113. gov is goonish by zogger · · Score: 1

    That sucks. I guess you could have pulled the starter, making it a non running car when you sold it. Then "lost" the starter over on her front porch, and let her boyfriend (whatever) put it back on. Something like that.

    Ya know, not only that but the government in general is dismally sucky. Just dismal. there's no outside limit in the amount of laws they can pass, zee-ro. It's a growth industry, the legislators and the bureaucrats and employees love it. They can do whatever they want to do, and have hired mercenaries with guns "enforce" their will on you and call it "justice". The theory is you can "vote" for change. Uh huh, that's worked swell so far, with the two carved in stone political gangs just swapping places every 2/4/6 years, and doing the same thing over and over again, ie, "staying in rule"..

    1. Re:gov is goonish by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      I guess you could have pulled the starter, making it a non running car when you sold it

      In my state, an emission test is required to transfer the title to a vehicel. I had planned to sell the car, I got a valid test, there was evidence it was running. It's not required for transfer between members of a family... but in the event I didn't sell to her, I would have been happy to sell to someone else.

      Besides it wasn't needed, I just needed to sign paperwork as to why I undervalued the car. It's fair and reasonable as the law is geared tward those who try to cheat the tax, by selling a new BMW for $500.00 on paper, but actually collecting much more. Which is funny, when ever I asked about a diffrent car that I paid "too little" for, they reccomended that I lie about what I paid for it. The law wasn't designed to prevent me from selling a crappy old car for squat... but to prevent me from writing down squat and collecting more.

      The theory is you can "vote" for change.

      We did actually... we voted that our yearly license fee be a flat rate rather then it be based on an inflated value of a car. I actually disagree with this because it cut our state's tax income by a signifigent bit, and had no provisions to get that money from elsewhere... and was used as an excuse not to implement public transportation projects. I know all about voting for change... and how these changes can affect the big picture.

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  114. More taxes! by MythoBeast · · Score: 1

    In other news, the UK is also planning to put a tax on breathing. "Because air is a readily available commodity," commented a UK spokesperson, "it puts all of the fresh-air vendors at a great disadvantage. How can they be expected to make a profit selling air if people can pick it up at no cost anywhere on the street."

    The spokesperson then went on to discuss the government's plans to tax gravity. "The one flaw we've found so far is that people can't opt out of it. In the grand scheme of things, however, that is really just a small detail."

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  115. Rember, the UK gave us the Beatels... by pilsner.urquell · · Score: 1

    ...
    Now my advice for those who die
    Declare the pennies on your eyes

  116. The Left and Socialism by Mc_Anthony · · Score: 1

    Knowing how nutty socialist governments are, I would not have been surprised if this was a true story.

    1. Re:The Left and Socialism by mikechant · · Score: 1

      What socialist government are you referring to? I don't think we've *ever* really had one of those in the UK apart from just after WWII. In fact, when the British Labour party dropped 'clause 4' (nationalization of key industries) in about 1995 it ceased to be socialist by most people's definition and became a 'Social Democratic' party. Which is a noticably different beast.

    2. Re:The Left and Socialism by Mc_Anthony · · Score: 1

      It's not incorrect to call a Social Democracy Socialist, but you are right, to an extent "Socialism" is a continuum. I actually had a Socialist professor at UC Berkeley who felt "Socialism" was never truly implemented anywhere, and thus should not be referred to as a failed ideology... Alas, such idiocy is far too common in American colleges.

      As a die-hard capitalist, it's my opinion that many governments in Europe have exceedingly unhealthy Socialist tendencies. Many in Europe are beginning to come to this realization as well. For example, there is the great Henrik Hansen
      at the Copenhagen Business School

  117. Kewl, no more non-profit organizations! by GoMMiX · · Score: 1

    Kiss the Red Cross goodbye... And any other non-profit organization.

    God forbid a man have the right to freely give his time.

    Hey, by the way I took a shit for about 15 minutes today - feel free to tax me - I'd be MORE then happy to bring 10% of it by any government office and put it right in an officials hand!

  118. Tubular Bells by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

    A note on the record jacket of Michael Oldfield's 1973 recording Tubular Bells, makes the following claim: "In Glorius Stereophonic sound. Can also be played on mono-equipment at a pinch." This tolerance disappears, however, in another note at the bottom of the jacket. "This stereo record cannot be played on old tin boxes no matter what they are fitted with. If you are in possession of such equipment please hand it in to the nearest police station."

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  119. No by DarkMan · · Score: 1

    Well, it's more interesting that the actual 'story'.

    The GPL says that you can't apply constraints to people you distribute the software (or deriviative works thereof) to. Just using the software doesn't involve the GPL at all.

    The nearest analogy is implmented a patented algorithim in GPL code. The patent holder has the right to require payment for the use of the algorithm, but the code is still GPL'd. Granted, it's messy, but all such corner cases are.

    Plus, the GPL relies on the law for enforcement. Unless your a government, there is not way around that. If you _are_ a government [0], then you can change the law, and that's not a problem.

    [0] Who doesn't are about things like the Berne convention.

  120. Re:Linux Tax in Poland by drago · · Score: 1

    I know that would be mean and against the spirit of the whole thing, but it's rather tempting to include a paragraph in the GPL that prohibits the use of GPL'ed software in countries where it is taxed. If the use of Linux in business is big enough, that would implicitly ensure politicians never get through with such stuff.

  121. Doesn't stop RIAA... by Chemisor · · Score: 1

    > You can't tax something that does not exist.

    You mean like those enormous profits everyone would make if people stopped pirating music and software?

  122. Checked the link lately? by Phlipping · · Score: 1

    Have another look at http://www.lose-it.org.uk/

    It's officially a 1/4 joke now.