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BBC Reviews Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
An anonymous reader writes "Now that the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has made its debut in London, reviews are now beginning to trickle in. The BBC's review can be summed up in one sentence: '... somewhere in the production process the crew has lost sight of the fundamental aspect of the books - they were immensely funny."
[Fill In Book Name Here] is not as bad as I had feared. Then again, it is not as good as I had hoped.
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Note: Those marked with an '*' may actually, really and truly, suck.
Seriously, mixing american actors with british actors and trying to turn something that wasn't very bad as a BBC TV series into a movie would be difficult, especially with the Hollywood penchant for wanting it to end differently than the book so the audience would be surpried and trying to make britishisms translate into equally funny americanisms or vice-a-versa. Imagine the following scenario: (brace thyself) A Hollywood remake of Monty Python and the Holy Grail... que horror, eh? Imagine (told you to brace yourself, you sensitive clod!) hip-hop actors, dimbulb comedy actors from sitcoms and the utter flattening of comedic timing to accomodate dumbed down humor. Yeah. Somethings are better left alone. Better to just go see Spamalot.
I do expect Rickman's dead-pan voice to be perfect for Marvin, but that's about all.
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Unless the cover says "Don't Panic."
Physics is nothing like religion. If it was, we'd have an easier time trying to raise money!
The "immensely funny" thing is curious. To be honest, completely honest... I didnt find douglas adams' work to be all that genuinely funny
Interesting to read, and written with an easy style that said "come back and read more!" sure, but not funny.
Not to me, personally, and not speaking for anyone else.
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put the what in the where?
Panic.
Obliteracy: Words with explosions
I could not believe how awful this film was. The story has almost nothing to do with previous versions of Hitchhiker's Guide and just rambles all over the place, but not in any humorous or interesting or entertaining or enjoyable way.
All the changes from the book and TV show and radio play seem to have been made for no reason and not only do they not add anything, they actually make it worse.
NONE of the books/radio shows agree with each other, so why should you expect the movie to?
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I absolutely HATED "Napoleon Dynamite." I laughed ONCE during the entire movie. Yet, the reviews were raving about it. Then we had the recent article about the guy that's spent like 20 years studying Douglas Adams and his books/etc, and he hated the movie. Other reviews of this movie said it was clever & funny. Now the BBC says that there were just a few chuckles.
Generally, I think that humour is in the eye of the beholder. I never think that Penny Arcade comics are funny, but often still laugh at User Friendly.
Bottom line: The movie probably doesn't suck that bad at all, but the "The book was better" fanatics are going to jump all over it.
Did the script veer too far away from the source material or tie itself in knots trying to keep faith with it?
Bizarrely, I think the answer is both.
Funny, I was almost certain it was 42
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Well, he also called it a "mess."
Personally, I plan on seeing it, but I also plan on going out of my way to read every last negative review and whiny Aint-It-Cool-News tirade which warns of how bad it is before seeing it.
The more I lower my expectations going in, the better the chances that I might extract a little pleasure out of watching what is bound to be a very flawed adaptation of my absolute favorite childhood novel.
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
While I haven't seen it yet, I'm kind of disappointed they only made one movie, there's enough material for more. Imho they should have announced it to be a trilogy (and then actually release 5 movies, one for each book).
You know the thing that made the books so snappy ... it was that compared to Arthur, Ford was an absolute nut. Zaphod was bombastic. Marvin was quite possibly a sorrier character. All that contrast was fairly extreme and therefore, the wossname, chemistry worked, because each's point of view was quite extraordinary. And yet, all were sane within their idiom.
They could have just sat around in chairs on board the Heart of Gold for 90 minutes cracking jokes about earthman-monkey, diodes down the left side aching, vogon poetry, etc. and many book/play fans would gobble it up. This is trying to mass appeal, what already had mass appeal. See the problem?
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Having read all 5 books in the triology, I would have hoped that there would be a decent film version of it (well, I guess I haven't seen it yet). I have to say, the film adverts at least showed some promise :)
The Sci-Fi Channel can remake it as a mini-series with a couple well known American actors and a bunch of unknown actors at a studio in Eastern Europe, with funny costumes, but a decent plot. :)
Fight Club was a phenomenal book that survived the transition to a movie, and then some.
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
The previews of the movie don't look good for use Adams fans. They seem to emphasize special effects and the bustle of the books, but give no evidence of the deep humor and insane and yet insanely self-consistent universe that Adams created. Rather than create Adams' mind-boggling humor (which is harder), they seem to have created the usual array of eye-boggling visuals.
I hope the actual movie is better than the previews.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
"Maths" is what we in the UK call Mathematics. It's not an error.
I'm sick of all the FUD floating around... i'm officially not reading anymore /. articles i'm just going to go see the thing for myself... hope it doesn't suck
The Answer
In most of the world, MATHS is correct.
only North Americans (I believe) say MATH.
(which is short for mathemeticS)
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The british say "maths" as opposed to the US "math". After all, it is short for "mathematics" not "mathematic".
While Dent is a familiar cipher, audiences will be left clueless by Ford Prefect, bemused by Zaphod Beeblebrox and indifferent to Trillian.
Personally, in reading the books, I've always been left feeling quite indifferent to Trillian. Almost like she's a background character with little to no importance. So it sounds like they at least got that right.
Ender-
Nothing to see here
Thank you for another great negative review, thus assuring my expectations will be appropriatly low so I can enjoy the film.
Curse you for giving away the part about Malkovich, it would have been an entertaining surprise.
I'm in the minority that didn't think the Hitchhiker series was funny. Some bits were amusing but most of it was a series of bad jokes falling flat...or perhaps too British for me. Although I loved everything Monty Python so I'm not sure that's a factor.
Can't say I thought the movie would be any better, so I'm not terribly disappointed by the bad review. It isn't "The Holy Grail", after all.
Max
My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
It's British English. Sometimes they call a truck a "lorry," sometimes they call a television "the tube," other times they call elevators a "lift."
My god. This is just about the most culturally blind, obviously offensive, most idiotic thing I have ever seen on the Internets.
Never read Fight Club. Saw the movie and thought, 'damn, not another "crazy guy" film'. Didn't read Forrest Gump, but my sister's opinion was the film was considerably better. A rarity it seems.
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I could not believe how awful this film was
Oh, come on, now. Deliberatly saying something's bad just so that the downloaders can claim they're sticking it to The Man for making bad movies... that's so, well, earlier this morning.
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Several people I know who've read the book didn't think it funny at all. Just as many thought it was an amazing book and series (myself included). I'm want to take BBC's opinion on this as the right opinion, but anyone that expected the movie to truly represent the book is a fool. Unless it's on the scale of LOTR/Sin City. Anyone remember the crappy 'hollywood-ized' Batman movies?
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At least the Unix version of "Oracle 8.5" is true to the book.
I've moved onto the sequel, "Oracle 9i, The Wrath of Larry Ellison" myself.
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I, Robot didn't suck. It just had absolutly nothing to do with the book. I bet your opinion of it would be a lot higher if they had stuck with the original title, "Hardwired".
Technoli
From TFA
Did the script veer too far away from the source
material or tie itself in knots trying to keep
faith with it?
Bizarrely, I think the answer is both.
Wow, it's like Dune all over again. Gotta wonder
why sci-fi is so hard to get right. Maybe this
phenomena is not unique to the genre?
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Kind of a negative reenforcement? Eh, doesn't matter to me. I couldn't care less what critics say. I enjoy a movie for what it is, or hate it for what it is. I don't need a critic for that. (Though I wish I had had one before watching Matrix Reloaded...oy!)
Mercy was given to me by Christ...I must give the same to others.
I read in the salmon of doubt that the movie was suppose to contain only the first book's plot, has anything changed? By the review it sounds like it did....
..unlike the books.
If you really dont like it, dont bring your towel to the cinema...
The radio show and books (so far as I've gone through them) agree with each other by and large all the way (I've heard a half-dozen eps of the original radio show, mind you, and they differed in about only one story arc to that point). All of the biggest notes are in there. From what I know the TV series wasn't THAT far off. This movie is VERY, VERY far off of ALL the other previous formats, to the point that it doesn't just change a story arc here and there... it reorganizes everything about the whole universe- including the way the characters percieve the Ultimate Question, which is something that's always been very near and dear to the series.
Call me crazy, but unless I'm mistaken, Douglas Adams had a rather sizeable role in creating the movie script for this movie before he died and even added a character or two of his own not found in the books... funny that he would be ticked off about his own work.
It gets an 8/10 on imdb...that's a pretty good rating.
"The Tube" usually refers to the London subway system... the "TELLY" refers to the TV.
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"Maths" is a perfectly cromulent word (if speaking British English).
OK, mod me troll but... how come the link:
My Verdict [google.com]
is actually a link, using Google as a redirect, to http://unspun.mithuro.com/content/view/60/, an article all about a "Motion filed to open FBI whistleblower case"?
How about "anyone speaking American English" and "anyone speaking English"? Since English is the native language of a country called England that you may have heard off?
We shouldn't have to qualify our language, "English English" would be somewhat redundant afterall.
compared to Arthur, Ford was an absolute nut.
Do you know what my favorite moment in the story is?
When Arther Dent, stuck on past Earth, announces that he has decided to go mad.
Ford suddenly appears and agrees that it's a good idea.
What I like about that moment is that I didn't really care for anything which came after it. Don't get me wrong, the prose was still very funny, but all this stuff of Aurther learning to fly, a planet-wise parody of what a boring sport cricket is, the truck-driving rain god, and the destruction of all possible alternate realities... It just wasn't up to snuff with the book material spawned from the original radio plays.
So, I have decided the following:
Arthur really did go mad at that moment. Ford never showed up. Arthur never learned to fly. Mattress creatures did not flollop. The reincarnated plant did not seek out revenge against Arthur. None of it happened. It was all just the delusions of Arthur's madness.
Looking at the final three and a half books of the trilogy in this light makes them much more enjoyable for me, especially since it discards the "Goddammit! I'm not writing a sixth book ever! Fuck all you drooling fanboys who will demand that my publisher lean on me to write more!" fatalistic ending. YMMV.
For that matter, one could take this premise and craft a fairly amusing fan-fic which picks up just as Arthur recovers his sanity, still stuck among the cave men.
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
I'm one of those few moviegoers who would take snappy dialog over pretty pictures any day. Hollywood knows how to do the epic special effects. They don't really respect writing. And it shows movie after movie, but as long as the lemmings show up for the blockbusters, writing will take second place.
How about I'll call it British English, and you call it English? That way we'll both be happy.
Max
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An example from the famous babelfish passage:
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindboggingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: `I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.
`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
How the heck are you supposed to film that and keep some semblance of flow to the story? You could do it as a voiceover I suppose, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the plot yet passages like this are a defining feature of an Adams book. I'll be interested to see if they attempted to put passages like this in the movie and if they can pull it off.
Compare with LOTR, or Harry Potter, or any Michael Crichton novel, which are more plot driven works and thus can translate to a visual medium like movies and still capture the spirit of the original text much better. At least IMHO
Still, I'm intent on seeing the movie and hope it retains some of the classic Adams humour...
I tried to read the article but both my sunglasses turned completely black!!
I think 'mathemetic' was a reference to how the poster felt while studying mathematics.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
I thought the London subway system was the Underground.
And Fight Club ends completely different in the book, not a Hollywood ending at all. Simply for the ending I'd recommend it.
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
The movie wasn't a retelling of the book, but you'd be nuts to try it. The book is a string of disjoint short stories. The same characters keep poping up, but they are complete stories unto themselves. You could perhaps make a mini-series out of them, but I don't think the majority of the American public would GET IT.
The movie it self though was very true to Asimov's theme, which was basically "Given these three laws, how can things go wrong while the three laws are still being obeyed... and then how can I get these characters out of this mess?" additionally, they brought in the concept of the 0th law that we saw at the end of the Robot novels (although in this story line with tragic consequences).
Perhaps the name was a bad choice, but it got the fan's attention. However, equally well it could have been called "The Three Laws", or something simmilar.
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The US version sucks...I tried watching on 2 different occasions. I felt like I was watching someone get their teeth pulled with a rusty pliers, very painful to watch.
ugh. Maybe I'll get the Brit version from NetFlix, it has to be better.
Sean D.
"Hmm. I am to metaphor cheese as metaphor cheese is to transitive verb crackers!"
The film is sort of similar. The book and the film are both true to the concept, but how they're actually, uh, played out is very different. It's like if you had a pair of twins, one wrote a book about 9/11, the other did a film documentary, and they both used the same eye witnesses, news reports, etc. Hard to explain. The film does an excellent job of portraying the events that occured in the book, but it's a lot more light hearted than the book, and takes some artistic liberty to better flesh out some scenes, while leaving out some of the "fluff" from the book. Hopefully that'll make some sense. I read the book after seeing the movie 9 or 10 times, and wasn't dissapointed one bit. I highly suggest it if you have the chance.
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Nope, you're not the only one.
Well, truth be told, I haven't managed to see Napoleon Dynamite yet. It's on my Netflix queue. But somehow, I just _know_ I'm going to hate it, which is going to make it all the much harder for me to be "objectively" subjective and try to like it for what it is. I'll try, I really will, but 99% of the time when my friends love a cult classic, I hate it. Napoleon Dynamite has all the earmarks: quirky characters that you'd hate if you met them in real life, quotes people insist on ad infinitum, t-shirts in Hot Topic.
But then, I managed to find the humor in Rocky Horror, and I love Monty Python, so maybe there's hope for me. Or it.
The list of things that I could point out that I hated that everybody else loved... would make for a very long and boring post.
he's a link troll, probably amigoro in a new user name, or some other pathetic twat with nothig better to do than try to get ad views with fake articles.
stay away from mithuro.com
I really want to talk to someone who read the book first, to see if the "revelation" from the movie is as profound in the book if you're reading it with untarnished with knowledge.
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
This is just about the most culturally blind, obviously offensive, most idiotic thing I have ever seen on the Internets.
You must be new here.
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If you think that "It hung in the air in exactly the way that bricks don't" is funny because of the silly image and novel phrasing, you'll probably like the book. If you think it's just stupid, then by all means pick up something else. The world is too full of books to read ones you hate.
I just rented ND last night and it is pretty good. I did get a kick out of ND's half asleep, vaguely anti-social mannerisms. The time-machine was a hoot (I've seen enough schizo-science websites to appreciate it). The whole jock vs. dork thing is getting a bit tired though, they've been doing it since Revenge of the Nerds. And yes, I went to High School in the 80's and I was forced to eat tater-tots.
As far as reviews go I've learned to go with the rules of statistics, the more reviews that point in one direction then the likelier that they are right. If the reviews are muddled and go both ways then it ends up being a matter of personal taste. I once took a date, who was into arty foreign films, to a movie called "Burnt By the Sun" that got a single strong review in a local arts & entertainment paper. The reviewer must've seen a different movie because by the end of the movie I was apologizing profusely for taking her to such an awful movie. We both got a good laugh out of it at least.
I agree with you on Penny Arcade. I think I can count the number of funny strips on one hand. The guy's audience must be 13 yr olds who live in front of their x-boxes or employees of video game companies. PVPOnline is MUCH better.
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
In order to bring this back on topic let me point out that we should all know some things are said differently in Britain. For instance, they seem to think that "Prefect" is a good name for a model of automobile.
omnia tua castra sunt nobis
Lets look on the bright side. At least we can point and laugh at Zaphod for looking like such a twat in his hat.
Plus pop corn tastes nice... God I'm going to hate Thursday.. Ironic the movie comes out here on a Thursday...
I like muppets.
London Underground is the official corporate name. The Tube is the common name - slang and semi-official ... see www.thetube.com
I see your point. The first couple times I thought the H2G2 books (the first 3 anyway) were quite funny. The 4th was thought provoking and the 5th quite a bummer.
I did find, 10 years after reading the first three that I found them to be more cynical than I recalled, with some fairly biting sarcasm embodied by certain characters and actions I didn't really see before. Eventually I believed it was funny while taking aim at a lot of things Douglas Adams probably found frustration with, like satire. There certainly are some very visible satirical references, but it seemed to me that like much humor there is often a target which is true, though by not being familiar with it we don't get all of the joke.
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Agreed! The book series lends itself to a series format.
They (the studios) probably didn't think the books were strong enough to hold viewer interest over a series of movies but then again I doubt the studios thought that Star Wars was going to go beyond one movie either.
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
I found it bizarre to watch the first time. But now for some odd reason I remember parts of it, and it seems funnier now.
Lines like:
"Pedro offers his protection", or "You gonna eat those tots?", while on there own don't sound funny, it the right context with people who know the reference can be fairly entertaining.
I'd say Napoleon is funnier after you've see it, not while you're actually watching it.
I still liked it better than "Friends", ugh, I'm glad that's over.
Sean D.
"Hmm. I am to metaphor cheese as metaphor cheese is to transitive verb crackers!"
So he's both wrong AND a troll? Who would have thought?
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Fight Club was a phenomenal book that survived the transition to a movie, and then some.
Screw the movie and the book. What I'd really like to see is a Fight Club made up of members of Slashdot.
It would be no surprise to me to see guys bring Light Sabres and those Klingon BetleHs.
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Where is the SPOILER ALERT?
You must have been an awfully precocious 7-year-old if you understood just about anything about H2G2.
You continually post links trying to get your google page rank up (note how the link doesn't go directly to your website).
Look at his post history. Judge for yourself. Mod into oblivion.
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...Cause everybody knows it is best read in the original klingon.
...for everytime negative reviews came out for a movie I ended up loving....I won't be sitting here at work surfing the internet right now....
"The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
Haven't read the LoTR series yet, but probably.
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Wrong. The relationship between Helena Bonham Carter's and Edward Norton's characters had more substance than just fucking and running away from the space monkeys. There are many different changes that both diluted and twisted Chuck Palahniuk's message.
Spoilers of both the movie and novel below. If you don't want to know, don't look.
Marla had breast cancer. In the movie, she just finds a lump. Edward Norton's character in the book had cancer for 5 minutes. Gone. The fight scene where Edward Norton beats up himself happens at the office of some film manager, not at the auto manufacturer's office. Edward Norton's character also shoots a man at a Pressman Hotel Party. That's out too. The ending was completely different in the movie than the book. The one thing that bugged me about the movie, was that Edward Norton never had the hole in his cheek from fighting. His character talks about the hole in his cheek constantly in the novel, but the movie didn't have it. Furthermore, he bites off the tip of his tongue in a fight and doesn't have it reattached, and the movie left that out.
Considering all the changes, I would hardly call it a survival. He, both Tyler Durton and Edward Norton's character were a lot smarter than the movie makes them out to be
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Also American Psycho. Highly recommended. (The movie version is a lot less disgusting than the book, but the translation is very good.)
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Offtopic but I would love to see the gun Reason being fired film quality CG...
Onward to the Aether Sphere!
Both tube and underground are acceptable for what Americans commonly refer to as the 'Subway' (but we invented both trains, and had the worlds first underground railway so we are sticking with 'the tube'). IME, tourists tend to call it the Underground but most Londoners refer to it as 'the tube' (there are underground railways in other cities in England and Scotland, no idea what they are referred to as locally, but I'd assume the same applies).
OT: In some parts of Scotland, calling someone a 'tube' is also a form of mild insult, though it's a been a few years since I last heard it used, it may have slipped out of common usage.
The term 'subway' in the UK incidentally, usually refers to a pedestrian underpass (most signs that refer to underpasses call them 'subways', which confuses tourists looking for the nearest underground station no end), though everyone would understand what someone speaking American English meant by Subway.
This also applies to other words like 'pants' (which over here means underpants aka knickers aka kecks, but not trousers unless being used by someone speaking American English) and 'fanny' (which in the UK has a very different meaning) - people seem to be able to put things in context, though it's a bit odd seing words like 'fanny' mentioned in Friends at ~9am on some morning re-run (_not_ a word that would be used by any UK program going out at that sort of time - any more than they'd use the word 'cunt' - but deemed acceptible because of it's dual meaning status).
I'd agree with the previous poster that I'd use telly (but never tube) to describe the TV, it's also often refered to simply as 'the box' (as in "Whats on the box tonight?").
I, Robot didn't suck. It just had absolutly nothing to do with the book. I bet your opinion of it would be a lot higher if they had stuck with the original title, "Hardwired".
...", that is.
Yes, our opinion would be different if they had refrained from RAPING ASIMOV'S CORPSE!
Then again, I haven't seen it, because of what Will Smith said on Leno: "It's very faithfull to the book [...] My character is the only man on earth who doesn't trust robots, everyone else does..."
Yeah, that is the exact opposite of the book, jackass.
Asimov's estate should sue them for diffamation... if they weren't busy swimming in their giant cash-filled swimming pools from all the horrible crap they've sold labelled as "Asimov's
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Maybe the moral is that just converting a great book to a movie isn't enough to have a great movie: you still have to have a good director, good casting, and a good screenwriter. (In the case of Princess Bride, Goldman was the screenwriter, and it was his idea to cast Andre the Giant). I also think the Princess Bride (which other than a few edits such as the Zoo of Death, is almost unchanged from the book) shows that it should have been possible to import entire scenes, unaltered, from the radio series and novels and get something which would be as funny- if not funnier- than the originals.
The radio series shows how goddamn funny the dialogue is when well acted. I thought "...all the diodes down my left side" was merely amusing on the page, but I was howling with laughter when I heard it read in that chronically depressed voice on the radio plays. Frankly you have to be one hack of a director to screw up the Hitchhiker's Guide: you've got a wealth of great material, both written and spoken. Your only problem is the painful decision of what not to put in.
Yep, I've been reading bad reviews and trying to lower my expectations, too.
My hopes were dashed first when Douglas died (a sad day indeed), then when I heard about the casting I was even more worried about how it would turn out. Then I saw Zaphod's "second head" and a picture of Marvin. Oh dear.
The effects look fantastic though.
I still don't know if I will go and see it. I am a big fan, so I HAVE to see it, but I also think it will be terrible and I don't want to encourage people to do this sort of thing (and pay them at the same time), so I SHOULDN'T see it. Being a fan is hard some days...
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The miniseries had most of the Guide bits done with animation, and they worked perfectly well.
That's a Bat'leth, not BetleH. Get it right for Worf's sake!!!
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You'll leave wishing that you had gone to see "MySQL Cookbook" or "Practical Postgresql", which were both showing at the same theater, and the tickets were free.
Naaah, MySQL Cookbook might be free, but they only recently decided to bother installing seats in the theater.
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Well, OK, fine. There's many good bits in MH, but why end on such a downer? And even though the dark ending did sort of fit in with the general theme of "the big bad universe doesn't care" it seemed pointless. I got the sense Adams was in a bad mood while writing the thing.
HEHE, not really a fan no. But I don't have to be surprised, do enjoy the unexpected things in many indy movies. Though this may be far from that.
How the hell is saying "I just don't get his humor" insightful?
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If it can survive the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Trall, it can survive a bad movie.
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You could use it to hold popcorn, to wrap yourself in if the theatre is too cold, and if you carry a tube of cyanide stitched into the lining, you could kill yourself if it is too much to bear.
Most importantly, you could cry into it if the reviews are right
That's just the way it is . . . fans of the books tend to be superfans and take it very seriously.
So the movie's going to piss off a lot of them. Not too big a deal, as there are tons of people who haven't read the books or aren't massive fans. . . but wait!
They're not going to be able to follow the plot of the movie very well without any knowledge of the book!
Seems like a lose/lose situation to me. Frankly, I don't know how they could have pulled this book off as there are two distinct voices in the book (without including dialogue) - the narrator and the Guide entries. That's a helluva lot of exposition for a flick, and (as has been mentioned in other posts on this article) some of the juiciest bits and jokes come from the exposition.
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
"Don't panic!" .immensely funny!"
"Crammed full of witty erudition!"
"A . . . comedic romp!"
"Sam Rockwell does a great turn as Zaphod Beeblebrox!"
". .
"Outstanding production design and some fantastic visual effects!"
"Charming!"
I was walking out of work yesterday (I work in London's Leicester Square) and the celebs were arriving for the premier in the cinema next door. I caught a glimpse of Bill Nighy and the actor that plays Arthur (whose name escapes me). Hopefully this thing won't be too bad...
On a related note the guy who lives in the flat above me plays a bit part in the bulldozer scene...
And curse you for giving away the spoiler of the part about Malkovich!
Whenever a comment like the grandparent is that long (multiple paragra- um, lines), I just skim down, figuring there'll be spoilers. But then you go ahead and ruin that plan. Now I know that somewhere there'll be something related to an actor or character named Malkovich.
Sam Rockwell does a great turn as Zaphod Beeblebrox, the two-headed president of the galaxy; Mos Def is passable as Ford Prefect; while Zooey Deschanel is beguiling as Trillian
Then a few paragraphs down we get this:
Did I say characters? Hmmm. While Dent is a familiar cipher, audiences will be left clueless by Ford Prefect, bemused by Zaphod Beeblebrox and indifferent to Trillian.
Indifferent to Trillian? I thought the actress playing her was "beguiling"!?! How can an actress potray a character in a beguiling way that leaves the audience indifferent? That's almost as funny as some of Adams' turns of speech. :)
In brief, the reviewer liked the movie, but didn't like all of it. In fact, he called it a "charming mess". Having been a fan of Adams' work for over twenty years I had always been under the impression the same could be said of the books. And even Adams' own later sequels lacked the punchy humor and wit of the originals. It is hard to make lightening strike twice.
I recently downloaded the BBC's HG2G TV adaptation. Although some parts are brilliant, many parts drag and are truly awful. Translating Adams' writing style into a visual medium is bound to be difficult. Even the British couldn't get it all right.
The Splintered Mind - Overcoming
It's interesting to note that under most religious beliefs with a heaven, atheists aren't allowed in.
He's then committed to an asylum where every once in a while an orderly whispers to him "it's all going according to plan Mr Durden."
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was originally an underground comic book. They weren't nice surfer dude turtles either. Bloody decapitations were common. The cartoon was only the START of that going downhill.....
...instead of just something difficult to translate to a movie. Did the creators of this movie read the books, listen to the radioshows, or even watch the BBC TV versions? In all 3 the book was a character, it had it's own voice, it's own dialogue and was some of the funniest shit I have ever read, heard and seen. Much like in LOTR, Peter Jackson nearly made the ring a character and the ring did not have much to say. The Book in HHGTTG has tons to say.
Or at least paying to see it...vote with your currency, don't pay to see this crap.
Go and buy the dvd of the BBC version.
fsck hollywood
How about I'll call it British English, and you call it English? That way we'll both be happy.
.o0('course furriners aye seem to nae ken the difference atween 'England' and 'Britain', an' I da suppose that helps onybody work out fit the richt thing tae cry it is.)
I agree that it seems reasonable just to refer to it as English, as the previous poster says, 'English English' seems redundant.
After all, 'British English' ought by denfinition to refer to the version of English spoken throughout the Kingdom of Scotland as well as the Kingdom of England (not to mention the Principality of Wales and the Province of Northern Ireland). However, Scottish English - aka Scottish Standard English - is a seperate beast (or should that be beastie). The cultural influces from Gaelic and Scots mean not just the vocabulary varies - the actual grammar does too.
To me, it only seems appropriate to use the more general term British English in specific circumstances.
Man... Can't believe some beat me to the Mansquito joke. In all seriousness, I would like to see HHGTG get the same treatment SciFi gave Dune and may the people who butchered EarthSea pay for their crimes against humanity...
Why do I get the feeling that we are about to be flooded with a bunch of Hitchhiker's Guide movie reviews that are written in a style that seeks to emulate Douglas Adams?
Chiz! Shirly it's 'mafs', short for 'mafimatiks', as any fule kno!
Indeed. Even here, in Quebec, we say "maths". In french. English Canadians say "maths" too.
It's mathematics, not mathematic. Hence, maths.
I was reading at quite an adult level between 7 and 10 years old. It was actually a problem for me in school, since my school at that time was geared for people that were semi-literate by comparison, and they didn't know what to do with me. I understood quite a lot of what I read, but I didn't really realize the significance of this until much later, when we were *expected* to have a high level of reading comprehension and critical analysis, I had already been there (and been repressed for it) for years.
I would read about Kissinger and Nixon and the politics of the war that was going on and understand it just fine. The only reason I understand it better today, is that I have access to more information. But I could read and understand the stuff already, at an age when most people are just beginning to learn to read well.
I believe the most important factors in the phenomenon were the focus on reading and writing I received from my mother, the fact that I had an unabridged dictionary and a well-indexed dictionary of quotations, piles of magazines and newspapers going back to the 1940s, plus shelves of books, mostly classics.
The only problem was, I had to discover Tolkien and Adams on my own, but that was no problem. They weren't exactly shoved in my face, but they somehow found their way to me, as did a fair amount of sci-fi and fantasy that was plain garbage.
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You must have been an awfully precocious 7-year-old if you understood just about anything about H2G2.
;-)
I wonder what that would do to a growing lad, expecting triple-breasted whores from Eroticon Six, and only ever managing to find the double-breasted kind... I hope he wasn't too scarred
You can't take the sky from me...
I think it's telling, though, that the movie preview isn't funny at all. Absolutely not at all. There isn't even a "chuckle" in it. Out of the 2 hours or whatever of the film they could have chosen from, the best they could find for the preview was people falling down and getting smacked in the face? This is not a good sign, especially since very little (any at all?) of Adams' humor in the books and TV shows (I'm ashamed to admit that I've never heard the radio shows) was slapstick.
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This just in... Noted scientist and author Isaac Asimov is STILL dead and spinning in his grave following the release of the film "I, Robot". This movie surpassed bad. Not in acting, cinematography, music, etc., but they DIDN'T USE THE SOURCE MATERIAL for the most part. Harlan Ellison wrote a killer screenplay that Asimov was apparently very happy with. I believe it was published in the Isaac Asimov magazine along with the reaction of Hollywood at the time. Since Susan Calvin didn't get naked and have lesbian sex with a female robot (which then exploded), they gave it a pass....until Asimov died and the stellar acting talents of ex-rapper were needed. Film at 11.........
I am my own gestalt.
Gotcha. Makes sense: preserve the final 's'.
But I don't get why you folks drop the second 's' from the word 'sports'.
If that was a BBC review, what is THIS?
In the film we barely see the physical book itself, though the short asides we do get are beautifully animated.
All that Irvine Welsh I've been reading pays off as I can seamlessly translate your last sentence. You wouldn't know of any dictionaries between that dialect and American English, would you? There are still a few words I wasn't able to understand from the context.
Yes, our opinion would be different if they had refrained from RAPING ASIMOV'S CORPSE!
That's going a little too far. While I'd agree the movie is a travesty demonstrating that Hollywood is hard pressed to produce even one new idea in almost a hundred years, some of the dangers the movie obsessed over were at least hinted at in Asimov's works. That there is some gold dust sprinkled on, however, does not change that what you have stepped in is primarily a turd. If they had left the original "Hardwired" title in, and yanked the attempts to exploit Asimov's name, it would merely be bad; if such had been offered on DVD free with a box of cereal, I'd have bought the box provided I wasn't allergic to the cereal. (Five brand name candidates, last I counted.)
As is... I took different measures.
Then again, I haven't seen it
Given my respect for film, I didn't want to trash the movie without seeing it. On the other hand, if it was as bad as reported, I didn't want any of my money going anywhere near the people responsible. So when the DVD came out, for my first and only time for a Hollywood release, I downloaded BitTorrent, found a pirate torrent, and tied up my DSL for two days. If it was any good, I would have bought it. After watching it, I deleted it. I have better uses for the 5GB of storage.
Having seen it, the only reason I feel that the time spent watching it was not completely wasted is that I can say with a clear concience: It is a Piece of Crap; Someone Please Buy Harlan Ellison The Movie Rights.
The HHGTTG movie sounds bad, but not that bad. I might catch a matinee... but I'll bring a towel to wrap around my head, just in case it's worse than I expect.
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>>while leaving out some of the "fluff" from the book.
Hopefully they'll leave out the pocket fluff. Otherwise, we'll never figure out how to finish watchine the damn movie.
To sum up. "Pure Awesomeness!"
I hate to tell you this, but to sum up: "Pure Idiocy"
You've seen the Triumph clip where he is at the release of Episode 2, correct?
I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.
For those who hadn't read the book, the tedium seemed strange and out of place.. but it was one of the better book adaptions I've seen
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Yes. I thought it was hilarious. Which is why I would video tape the entire Slashdot Fight Club and sell the resulting clips to the Comedy Network and make $$$.
That my friend is where the "Pure Awesomeness" comes in.
Live forever, or die trying.
All the issues I've heard indicate that while difference isn't bad... It's only good if it adds something. For example, I don't remember the band disaster area in the radio version. It was in the book and the BBC TV version. It was funny. Adding it was good. The fact that I don't remember the apontaneously evolving creatures from the TV version or the book means that something good was lost, but the viewer/reader came out a bit ahead for the trade.
Now, in the movie, I am told that the bulk of the additions consist of pointless explanation of things that don't need it, and scenes that involve finding the right sort of form to fill out, etc.
Another change is during the construction of Earth II. In the original, Slartibartfast wakes up after a multimillion year sleep. The subject of mice comes up, and Arthur makes a reference to 60's sitcoms. "I know nothing of these 60's sitcoms of which you speak... I'm a bit out of touch." It's funny in context.
In the movie, Earth II is being rebuilt from the moment it was destroyed, rather than from the beginning, and Slartibartfast says, "I know not of this cheese of which you speak." Now, this is a weak change. The original line was a call-back to the fact that Slarti had been asleep for five million years, and missed out on current cultural things. But, in the movie, because they are rebuilding the earth from the point where it was destroyed, Slarti must know about cheese because it is being used in the reconstruction.
So, they eliminated a humerous call back, and character explanation, while adding a thing which actually makes absolutely no sense in the context they created for it. It would have been better for them just to eliminate the line if they didn't know why it was there. The other thing they could have done was go into something humerous about what cheese is, and how they had been rebuilding the earth with earwax from antarean megaoxen on everybodys crackers.
But, they didn't decide to have confusion about the nature of cheese, they just butchered the line so that it no longer had any point being in the movie. Earwax on crackers is the sort of thing I could have gotten behind. Even though it isn't Adams' work, it would be an amusing addition to the story. Just changing crap because you don't get it, and ruining it, however, impresses me much less.
I'll put it short and sweet. To expect the HHGG we know and love. Actually. Just fuhgit about it...at least on the big screen. Why? Two reasons.
#1. Most of the best humor just wouldn't work in a movie format. Why? To do it well you'd need an absurd amount of time, and as well, the story would start to drag on. Really.
Now, from what I'm hearing, they're filming a TON of material for the DVD version. Meaning that all the stuff that didn't make it into the theatrical cut, may very well make it into an actual "Guide" cut, with all those little asides that make the book.
A DVD package with "Don't Panic" on the cover and given the LotR extended edition treatment? Oh yes.
#2. Like it or not, he's just not the same guy he was when he wrote the book. Hell, he wasn't the same guy when he wrote the sequals. And one thing that DNA wanted, was to update HHGG..the philosophy and feeling behind it, to get it out of his past and move it into the present. And because of that, after he died, when the production team had a doubt about the tone of any of the material, they looked up his latter stuff. To see how it would go, and work.
Maybe that's the ultimate problem. The true fans wanted the classic, but that's just not going to happen.
No No No,
The slashdot movie would be shown on a beowolf cluster of cinemas running linux in soviet Russia, and be full of old Koreans.
As soon as it would open 10 million people would appear out of nowhere all holding tickets and crowd into the theater until their collective body heat melted the structure. Then the film would appear on several mirrors but nobody will actually watch it, but they will somehow be able to pick nits and overanalyze the story. the collective group of commentators will then declare that it sucked and was all Bill Gates' fault, but then George Lucas will remake it and it will worse....
Wow, you got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning!
Do you normally pick on someone, then go looking for their other posts and reply the same to each one?
I would buy Opera in a second, if it was £5. Other browsers are free, but I like Opera. There is almost nothing worse about the free version (I lose 9mm of screen across the top where the ad strip is). I can't justify spending $40 on it just for that. They provide a free version. There is nothing wrong with using that and I don't think I need to defend using it.
As for the sig. I have seen other people put things like that in a sig, and I have clicked on them. I don't know these people, but I thought I would help them. You say it doesn't help the company. Of course it does. It gets 250 people to click on a link that shows them the Opera website. It spreads the word. Some people might actually download it while they are there. What does it matter if people from a website visit click on it, or people from a forum? 250 people are still looking at the site. That's doing more good to Opera than if I got Firefox and didn't get 250 people to look at anything.
Thank you to the people who have clicked on the link. I'll do the same for you if I see something similar. I might even be interested in the product and download/buy it.
I didn't want to put a post about Opera as that has nothing to do with my original post (apart from a one line sig), but I thought I should reply to your flamebait. I know you were waiting for a reply, Mr. Anonymous Coward.
Appeals to my sense of humour :-)
is it just that the Scottish accent is considered different enough to write in this way? cause i'm not sure it is.
I think there is sufficient evidence to support that there is more to just Scots English than that, though undoubtedly it's come to more closely resemble standard English over time. It does have truly different grammar structures too. Google brings up some relatively compelling evidence IMO (YMMV). In trvivial cases it is merely word substitution, but there are also quite a few examples of how the grammar structure itself differs (not something I'd ever thought of, till I started reading about it).
I think the primary difference from simple regional variation is that it has unique influences such as Scots Gaelic (which is, so I've read, where the differing grammar structure comes from) and traditional ('Robert Burns' style) Scots (the source of a lot of the certainly uniquely Scottish words). That is to say, the difference is more than just a few unique words or phrases here and there as you'd find within a single country. While there has always been trade, England and Scotland were genuinely separate nations historically, with different ethnic groups of people (who arrived in the UK at different times and had entirely unique cultures).
I'm Scottish and work in London and have done for the last 5+ years and I still inadvertently use words and phrases in meetings that cause people to burst out loud laughing (and make them look confused, much to my surprise not realising they are uniquely Scottish), and I speak pretty formal Standard English (I actually used to get teased about this at school, because classmates thought I sounded 'English' and not 'Scottish', for which BBC radio is largely responsible).
IMO, I think a lot of people have certainly tried to over milk it though, across the whole of UK and indeed Europe. The same is true not just in Wales and Ireland with Welsh/Irish Gaelic as well (which are certainly entirely distinct from English of course) but I'm referring to places like the North of England, where strong dialects and unique regional words are dying out of everyday use so they are trying to boosts it's status rather artificially (I've offended some Yorkshireman now I bet). In fairness sometimes the lines are a bit blurry though.
This is no small part due to cultural funding - the European Union gives huge amounts of funding to such regional causes, as does the UK government these days. That is, for example, one reason you see so many road signs in Gaelic in Scotland, even though very few people speak it (I should think there is no one alive now that only speaks Scots Gaelic, though I'm fairly sure wasn't the case when I was younger, and I'm only in my mid 20's). Business also buys into it, because it helps promote Scotland for tourism and commerce (there is - believe it or not - such as thing as 'Scotland - the brand', which is an official logo for use on goods produced in Scotland, it's a bit OTT and slightly naff IMO, but I gather it goes down well with the tourists).
Or are there just Scottish writers who feel it necessary to display there Scottish-ness at every chance?
There may be truth in that...
We never claimed to be consistent. Look at our spelling.
the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Hitchhiker's Guide had one important distinction from other books that have been made into movies. That difference is that the book was not the original version of the story. The original version was the radio series, THEN came the book, which was fairly different from the radio version, THEN came the the TV version, which was different from both the book and radio series. H2G2 already has a history of being changed by the author. The changes made by Hollywood are not going to be too much of a problem, especially considering the fact that many of those changes were made by Adams as well.
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Better hope you read lots of stories about how watching it gives people testicular cancer, then mate. That should lower your expectations enough.
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To have Sci-Fi buy the rights to remake the old BBC Miniseries, keep as much as the script as possible, but with better graphics (Remember Zaphods second head from the original...)
Then, If that proves to go well, hire a team of writers to convert the second radio series, coupled with the book, into a new series. Hell, It doesn't even have to be a miniseries. If all goes well they have more than enough material for four-five seasons. With a single episode for "Young Zaphod Plays it Safe"
Sci-Fi proved they can do this with Battlestar Galatica, Dune, etc.
I know I'd watch it. Would you?
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I have to say, the opening paragraph of the actual article DOES nicely break the fairly dismal tone set by the article here. To wit, "Don't panic - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is not as bad as I had feared. Then again, it is not as good as I had hoped."
Obviously, not having seen the movie, the only point in the article I can wholeheartedly agree with is that I have no clue how exactly they planned on cramming Adams's writing style, much of whose humor comes from narratives typically lost in movie form, into a two-hour show while still remaining coherent. Of course, the reviewer seems to think coherency wasn't quite achieved.
Demanding constant attention will only lead to attention.
It's from the Law of Conservation of S's. Consider the following sentences:
American English: I wish you were as interested in math as you are in sports!
English English: I wish you were as interested in maths as you are in sport!
You can't take away an s without it popping up somewhere else.
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It appeared from the advertisements that they removed the towel for hitchiking, to using a thumb? Is this true. If so, I cannot see HOW this movie could be any good. The books could be summed up with hitchiking with a dirty towel. Sigh...
I so love the towel.
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Admittedly I'm no marketting genius, but how do you illustrate the deep humour and insane yet insanely self-consistent universe that Adams created with a barrage of 1-second clips played with rock-music?
Tricky! IANAMG (I Am Not A Marketing Genius) either, but I can see something like this..
Voiceover (progressing from friendly to serious); "Arthur Dent is living a peaceful life until he learns that his house is to be demolished for a new highway. Then he learns that the Earth is to be demolished for a new interstellar highway. Then he discovers that his friend is an interstellar hitchhiker. Then life turns even stranger" all accompanied by visuals that transition from Arthur's peaceful home, the local demolition crew, the Vogon destructor fleet, Ford Perfect's electronic thumb, and then the total madness of 1-second scenes cut to rock music, then a near-ending pause with the words "Don't Panic" in big friendly letters on the electronic thumb/galactic encyclopedia before returning manic scenes of Arthur's travels.
Again, IANAMG.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
... somewhere in the review process the writer has lost sight of the fundamental aspect of humor - the review was immensely shortsighted."
blade runner the movie was much better than the book imho. the movie was coherent, the book was a rambling mess.
"2010" is also often criticized, but I thought it was a very well done movie and about as good a conversion from the book as one could expect from hollywood.
On the night that the final episode of the 2nd series was first broadcast on the BBC my wife went into labour and we rushed off to the maternity ward, taking a radio with us. We were able to listen to the episode just before my son was born.
... what I didn't expect was that the new Doctor Who would copy my son's Manchester dress sense !
So it was inevitable that my son would grow up to be an active contributer to the H2G2 website
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I have to agree with parent. Fight club is the ONLY movie i have ever liked more then the book. Clockwork orange is close, but the book and movie are so different that its hard to compare.
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usually they call a TV "the telly".
Douglas Adams actually said that he may, in fact, write a sixth book. He collected them all together and killed them so that they were all in the same place if and when he'd do another book.
:(
He was oft' frustrated that he'd spend the first half of each book collecting the characters together.
Plus he always loved to put himself in an impossible situation to force him to find an impossible rescue (improbability drive anyone?)
Sadly, no such book is coming.
I agree that it seems reasonable just to refer to it as English, as the previous poster says, 'English English' seems redundant.
I'm an American. If you're in America (and quite a few other places where American English is the norm, not British English) "English" refers to American English. In Britain (and those places where British English is the norm) I'm sure that "English" refers to the British version of the language.
It's all about context. Which is why on a forum frequented by people who speak both types of English I made the distinction. To an American or anyone who was taught the American version of English, the word "English" doesn't refer to the British version of the language. It's really that simple.
Or it would be, but I'm willing to be there's some wanker out there who'll shit a brick over the idea that Americans have had the gall to fork 'his' precious language.
Max
My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
eagerly anticipate a dirk gently movie
the Dirk Gently novels strike me as being far more easily translatable to the screen than the H2G2 series
For some reason hollywood has stopped making chandler-esque movies, maybe a Dirk movie could revive the genre
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Or it would be, but I'm willing to be there's some wanker out there who'll shit a brick over the idea that Americans have had the gall to fork 'his' precious language
Personally, if I forked something I'd have the decency to give it a unique name from the parent (I certainly wouldn't take the name and start refering to the origional by another name).
To an American or anyone who was taught the American version of English, the word "English" doesn't refer to the British version of the language.
I can't say I'd be surprised to find an American automatically assuming something to be American unless they had specific reason to think otherwise, I'm not sure it's an attitude it's wise to be entirely complacent about though.
Good point. It's not like the books were close to the radio versions and the TV series was like neither of those. Part of story's charm is how it completely contradicts itself with each telling of each episode. I'm looking forward to the new version.
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The Princess Bride is an interesting case because the movie, smartly, leaves out a lot of the substance of the book (the interstitiary postmodern interjections by Goldman), and just takes the swashbuckling and smart humor and runs with it. Goldman knows what works for films and what works for books, and (importantly) where they happily coincide. Hopefully the HHGG turns out to be a similar serendipity.
> Slashdot Fight Club
Probably would sell well, too, given the fights would be identical to "Bumfights girlslapping at each other".
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Well, Clockwork was from Stanley Kubrick, and the man knew his shit in filmmaking. I'll put up with the occasional Eyes Wide Shut in exchange for the occasional Clockwork, 2001, Strangelove, or the first half of Full Metal Jacket. I wonder which class AI would have been in? We'll never know.
Hell, I still think his Shining is way better than King's version, even if it didn't match King's vision.
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I'm taking a towel to the theatre, how about you?
The "Americanization" of BBC shows is WRONG.
The same goes for things like the Iron Chef. For me, it was at its best when they still showed the original version undubbed. Subtitles might have been nice, but dubbing began the slippery slope. The first US attempt, in a Superbowl theme, was bad in exactly the way that the parent complains about; a total lack of understanding of the concept. They're much closer on the second attempt, but still missing quite a bit. (Not that I'd want to see a stream of ads while Kaga II makes us wait for the verdict.)
I like 2010 (the movie and the book) too. I think a lot of the negative reactions is because the film just isn't Kubrickesque in any way, not so much because it's not a good adaptation of the book (which it actually is).
The real Captain Avatar is a fictional character, so I suppose he doesn't mind if I impersonate him.
That would certainly explain why the BBC uses it on their site http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/
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There's a kodak moment, a bunch of over-fed computer geeks shoe-horned into speedos acting like Sumo wrestlers and drunken ninja.
Thought it was tough to get a date before this...
Personally, if I forked something I'd have the decency to give it a unique name from the parent (I certainly wouldn't take the name and start refering to the origional by another name).
If you're going to get your panties in a wad over something as inconsequential as this, you've got problems far beyond the fact that Americans call their version of English "American English".
I can't say I'd be surprised to find an American automatically assuming something to be American unless they had specific reason to think otherwise, I'm not sure it's an attitude it's wise to be entirely complacent about though.
This is no different than the British assuming that "English" means their version of English. It's a perfectly valid assumption, if you happen to be in Britain. It's completely invalid if you happen to be in New York. Only an utter asswipe would claim otherwise.
Max
My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
OK, let's take this real simple now so you can understand.
Hitch-hiker's = HH = H2
Guide to the Galaxy = GG = G2
I don't question that a 7-year-old could read the books and know what all the words were. I question whether a 7-year-old would understand it to any reasonable extent.
It is even possible to make faithful movie adaptations of books that at first glance seem impossible to translate to film. Example: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Yes the movie was a box office bomb, but it was a very faithful translation of Hunter S. Thompson's ideas.
What did this movie have in common with Fight Club, American Psycho and Trainspotting (which are all great adaptations in my opinion)? A voice over by a narrator.
This is something that can really make or break a movie version of a book - especially if the book was written in the first person
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When I was two I singlehandedly defeated two street gangs and emerged untouched. Try that on for size, you punk bitch.
I disagree, and to prove the point, its "adequate".
See. My self esteem is propped up and while you may be hurt you've learnt something too.
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Are we really having this discussion?
We really did evolve from the telephone sanitizers.
In addition to the HHGTTG books, the only other books which had me laughing so much that I had to put them down was the Red Dwarf books (coincidentally also Space Comedies).
InfoSec that matters, when it counts.
So your saying they need to do 3 movies for every book?
You do realize this first movie only covers the first book (for the most part).
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
You mean H2GT2G.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
Okay, I know I should have posted this sooner, but I was recovering from the after film party.
;-)] from Buena Vista International (BVI), those behind this premiere.
First of all, the full review of the film and party, is http://www.apj.co.uk/reviews/review-hitchhikers-gu ide-to-the-galaxy.asphere and the scans of the film Premiere Booklet are http://www.apj.co.uk/reviews/hitchhikers-guide-to- the-galaxy-premiere-program.asphere. I have included my own photographs, one of which is a Vogon dancing!
I liked this film; I'm a big fan, a bit of a dork you might say. I can quote lines from the books which I read nearly 20 years ago. This isn't quite the funniest movie of the year, but it is worthwhile and enjoyable. It is, perhaps a bit too much, of a rollicking romp through the galaxy. It also has some catchy music and will put a smile on your face. I give this film a positive 8/10.
Let's get some context here...
There are three types of people who will be seeing this movie.
First, there are the Uninitiated, those who know not what the mind of Douglas Adams is capable of.
Second, there are the Fans and thirdly, there are the Fans.
Yes, I know that the Fans are in two groups, but this is for a reason. The first group, lets call them Fans (a) are really not going to like this movie. The second group, lets call them Fans (b) are going to have a ball and like the Uninitiated, will want to see the film at least once more to pick up on all the stuff they missed the first time.
Fans (a) are going to say that the story line has been changed too much, it has been "Hollywoodified", that Arthur Dent never gets it on with Trillian, that there is no such thing as a Point of View Gun. These are the fans that think they are the biggest fans of all. They are the fans that know absolutely nothing.
Fans (b) know absolutely all they need to know about "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" (from now on H2G2). Each incarnation of the story is different. Douglas was always tinkering with his creation. When George Lucas was filming The Empire Strikes Back, Douglas was already showing George how this tinkering should be done. Like George, Douglas doesn't always get it right, but in the main, the updated story is usually better than the last.
This movie is no different. There are new plot threads, there are new gags, there are some old threads untied, retired and turned into knots. Some work, some leave you a little bemused. On the whole, I think that a damn good job has been done to reduce an enormous amount of dialogue into something that allows me as a fan to quote lines before they are said and the Uninitiated to get some idea of what the plot is all about.
So, if you hear somebody say the film isn't as good as the [ ________ ] version (fill in the blank), then tell them they don't know a fetid dingoes kidneys what they are talking about and that they should grow up and enjoy the film for what it is.
So, let me tell you about the premiere
Sitting in Empire 4 (otherwise known as The Imperial, a pub right next door to the side exit of the Empire Cinema in Leicester Square, London), I realised it was too late to change back into normal attire and that I would have to walk into the World Premiere of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" wearing nothing more than a dressing gown, pajamas, a towel and of course, a rubber duck.
It turned out that I was the only "normal" person wearing the obvious outfit for the premiere. The only other exhibitionist was S[____] [I had better not name him
After being introduced to the producers and members of the cast, the audience was reminded that we might need the provided towels at a certain point in the movie....
It was astonishing that the
Also, speaking of prisoners, Patrick McGoohan's "The Prisoner" also appeared on commercial TV in the US back in the 1960s, as did "The Avengers" and "The Saint".
(I remember watching them as a kid, back before we got a PBS station (or UHF), so I know that they were broadcast over commercial TV.)
Those who sacrifice security to condemn liberty deserve to repeat history or something. - Benjamin Santayana
I was prepared to continue this (and had a rather long post), but it feels like I'm having a battle of wits with an unarmed man (which is both pointless and frustrating, given the basic misunderstanding of the words being used here).
Suffice to say, why is it Americans (not exclusively, but in particular) rarely seem to grok that the words "England" and "Britain" are not interchangeable, no matter how many times it's explained (this includes rather well [read: expensively] educated relatives of mine I would add)?
It's not like we'd ever confuse 'North America' with 'The United States of America', though I have had this pointed out to me - and laughed out loud at the persumption someone over the age of about 10 wouldn't know the difference.[1]
[1] Oiks not included.
At what point did the American form of the English language become the definitive version?