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Spielberg & Lucas Approve Indy 4 Script
Anonymous Coward writes "According to an article on ComingSoon.net, the script for the fourth Indiana Jones movie is moving forward. Lucas and Spielberg have agreed on the writing, with only Harrison Ford still required to sign off on the project before it can go into pre-production. Ford has yet to read the script."
From the directors who brought you A.I. and The Phantom Menace...
Is this the fabled indiana jones/star wars crossover, where indy is revealed to be han solo?
I hope so!
Being a Star Wars fan as well as an Indiana Jones fan, I am of the opinion that Harrison Ford has been one of the best actors recent movies have seen. Though I suppose it could be debated that he's a bit old for the role, I'm still quite happy to see this!
When Lucas came back to Star Wars, it took him six years to get it right again. Lets hope Indiana Jones can do it a tad better....
Of the script? Is Ford really that able to make or break the script once he's agreed to do the project? Or, has he, essentially, not yet even agreed? With the buzz this has, isn't he more or less already beholden to do it?
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I don't have any blind loyalty to Harrison Ford as Indy. River Phoenix played Indy well in the TV series. A scrawl of blocky pixels played Indy well in the LucasArts games.
Indiana Jones is a character, and played well, can be played by anyone.
Though he hasn't been around lately, the range of an actor like Jim Carrey can bring new life to this old character. Wit, intelligence, and a talking buttcrack are things that typify Indy. With the possible exceptions of Morgan Freeman and Harrison Ford himself (who are both way past their prime in terms of physicality), Carrey would be an awesome choice to play this legendary character.
Evil SS Nazi: "So, Dr Jones, boxes or briefs?..."
Jones: "Depends...."
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That Ford is too old to be doing this. Unless he can still act the part and look the part with makeup and CGI, I don't see how he can be Indi anymore. 10 year ago...maybe, but not now.
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this will be cool to see him play a role as old man indy. I just hope he does play an old ass professor that mentors some youngin' on his quests.
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"Quality... I hate quality."
But for everyone who says Harrison Ford is too old...why not just make Indiana Jones older?
Set the movie in the late 1950's and you are good to go. *shrugs*
will Angelina Jolie be in it, starring as Lara Croft?
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Seems like it's going to be an interesting continuity-versus-drama challenge in that, if Indy can't die (having drank from the Holy Grail in the previous movie), what enemies/threats does he really have for the assumed action scenes?
:)
(From a link off the main linked page)
Speaking about the story, Lucas adds that is it "vaguely in the realm of the supernatural. We have to accept the fact that Indiana Jones is an older man. But it's been hell getting a script out of it."
Seems like it would have to be... and I can understand the difficulty.
~ Whence do you come, slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?
It's in IMDB as "in production". Vaporous or not.
...Indiana Jones never whips first. He dodges laser beams then whips the blaster pistol from their hand....oh wait.
when did /. become a movie news/gossip/rumor site? really, if i wanted to know about trash like that, i'd watch entertainment tonight.
The great thing about the Indy character is his smarts. Half the time he gets out of trouble because he thinks his way out, not because he uses force. Can Sean Connery play James Bond today? I think he could. Can Ford play Indy, I think he can.
I can't wait for Indy 4, the previous movies were awesome.
Indy is like MacGyver on steroids.
Lets just hope they get a good script, a good story, one that gets the intellect and imagination flowing together. Those movies are so rare.
I wonder how many people went into history or archeology because of the Indy movies?
Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."
My understanding is that this *will* be set in the fifties, at the height of the cold war. Early rumors included Karen Allen reprising her role from the first film, although I understand that's fallen by the wayside.
A damned shame. Karen Allen carried the first Indy movie every bit as much as Harrison Ford did, and that's largely the reason why it's considered so superior to the latter two. I have no doubt this will be a fun movie - Indy three surely was - but if they want it to really sing, they'd bring her back as well.
And NO new versions of the original trilogy!! Harrison Ford can do it. I hope they don't do a 'passing the legacy' thing down to another actor/character. Also, they should have to watch that southpark episode about the raiders of the lost ark remake once every night during production.
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Harrison better make sure it has all the essentials. It's not good to mess with the formula that geeks have come to know and love:
That second to last one could prove to be quite difficult.
A pistol holster and clip for his whip on either side of the walking-frame...
That's not the end of the world. Maybe the script is a rip-off of Bubba Ho-tep.
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This is good news, I am definitely looking forward to it.
But they are really milking these trilogies from 20 years ago. I wonder if they will come up with original ones at some point in the future, or if their careers are winding down.
What if Indy was a dad, like Sean Connery was? Suddenly all the complaints of old age fade away...
We had just watched Last Crusade for the fourth time, freshman in highschool, loving the ford/connery interaction, still jazzed about the marvelous escape into the crevice from petra's treasury. This idiot senior responded to my vague hope that they would make a fourth film, with self-righteous incredulity. "It was the LAST crusade get it? Get it?" Rolling his eyes, knowingly. I then proceeded to attempt to explain how the crusade was actually a reference to the fact that indiana et al were searching for the holy grail much like crusaders during the middle ages, but the person looked at me like I was nuts. He wouldn't hear of it, wouldn't listen to my insistence on a better, correct interpretation of the title. My inability to get through to this idiot still haunts me to this day: I'm far more able to explicate my points and get through to idiotic self-righteous assholes, but I feel like I failed this git. Hopefully, wherever this refuse is now, he'll hear this news and recognize what an idiot he was and have a moment of quiet reflection on how he shouldn't have been so sophmoronic.
Imagine what could be done with an R Indy movie. We could examine more of Indy's character. Instead of the bedroom doors closing, and the next scene being in the morning, we could see how Indy negotiates the night away. Imagine seeing Indy in a hot tub with two big hooters in his face. And he gets the girl because he is a nerd, he gets the girl because he talks to her about archeology.
Or better yet, maybe the next Indy flick will have Indy's busty young daughter, who just turned 18 and went on her first excovation. Imagine the possibilities.
Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."
So is it based on the Fate of Atlantis?
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Well, I'm not sure about this one. I mean, I would love to see the original Raiders of the Lost Ark, cleaned up and ready to rock on the big screen again. Mainly because I still buy the occasional toy and have been so buried by the amount of Star Wars figures the last decade that I'm ready for a change. Come on, we *need* an Indy line again. Just look at the Disney exclusives from the theme park. They still sell well on ye ol' eBay.
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Though, that being said, I'm not sure what they could do to the Indy movies sfx wise that would change them. With Star Wars, there is always a new alien to add in the background or spaceships on the huge expanse of space. But Indy? What would they do there? Add more spiders in the opening sequence? More dying Nazi's when they open the Ark? Raiders was never really a sfx power house. Didn't need to be, set in WWII and all, the tech to produce that is readily available and has been for 50+ years.
*sighs* I grew up on Indy, more so than Star Wars anyway. I've always enjoyed Star Wars, but the Indy series always meant more to me. Besides 3/4" scale Harrison Ford's just look cooler with a fedora instead of a blaster.
However, if they go through and recolor the fedora in every scene a nice Ferrari Red, someone dies.
"Genius may shine aloof and alone, like a star, but goodness is social, and it takes two men and God to make a Brother."
Indiana Jones and the Magical Walker.
Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Viagra
Indiana Jones and the Grandchildren that never call.
Indiana Jones: Barely Alive
Indiana Jones: The Exploitation Sequel
I sincerely hope that Lucas won't royally fsck up Indiana Jones part 4 like he did with the Star Wars prequel(s). (I only watched the first one in the theater. It sucked so much that I skipped the second one entirely. My friends say the third is ok, so I'll wait until it gets to the cheap theater and then check it out.)
The biggest problem with the prequel(s) is this: The first three movies (meaning, episodes 4 through 6) used special effects in moderation. Costumes were consistent from one scene to the next and between movies. Everything appeared as it should. Yes, there were special effects, as we obviously don't have starships to fly around and film. But most of the movie's genius was in the simplicity and creativity of its photography and setting selection. Scenes were filmed in the desert, or in a forest, and these appeared quite realistic. Unfortunately, the prequel(s) were much more about special effects than good film technique. Even the acting sucked. And need I mention that the costumes and technology are not consistent, neither with the original three movies, nor from one scene to the next in the prequel(s). This damaged the movie, rather than provide added value.
I really have a feeling that Indy 4 will be all about special effects and corny acting than a compelling movie like the first three in that series, and that guess is based on past experience with Lucas. (Speilberg, I don't know, he still has some sense, I suppose, so hopefully he'll balance it out.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones
sounds good to me, whatever it is. i wouldn't mind a little ILM updating for the old dog. Indy has always been a favorite of mine, but i wonder what else might have to change to meet the new markets of today.
http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/48/ai.htm
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Heh, he hasn't read it because he's working down the road from my house, filming/producing/acting in a movie. The signs say "Antonio". BY THE WAY Is it just me or can nobody see the stupid letters behind the evil black lines on the "type the random text shown here" image?
...can't be seriously proposing Jim Carrey as Indy, right?
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Seriously.
Why don't you think they are going to do the original three Star Wars movies again?
Because we already have too many preconceptions and expectations as to the characters' appearances, mannerisms, etc.
I seriously think I would need a LOT of therapy if they make Indy a different actor. I love James Bond and all, but that actor swapping really tripeed me out.
And Jim Carrey? Dude. DOOOODE. I hope you were kidding. (Everyone knows that Indiana Jones has a butt-chin. P-sha!)
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Started reading it, seems cool. I just thought I'd mention a typo/spelling mistake I saw though:
"the sight" refering to "the site" seems unlikely the person who wrote 1,2 and 3 would spell site wrong...
I guess it could be an early draft without much of any editing/checking though.
Good catch - totally missed that one :)
Wow. You are the only other person I've ever run into who liked this movie for what appear to be the same exact reasons that I liked it. Everyone I know who has seen it tells me how depressing it is. A friend I showed it to told me to never show him a movie like that again. To this day, he still reponds to any movie I'm going to show him with, "it's not like A.I., is it"?
I thought it was a beautiful movie with a melancholy, poignant ending. Interestingly enough, I hadn't seen Pinnocchio since 1978, so I recently rewatched it (I just got a daughter in October 2004 and I'm building up a library of movies to show her) and I was amazed with how much of it was reproduced in A.I. Again, I would have to say this is probably Spielberg's best work on many levels (I'm sure the Kubrick portions really raised the bar a good deal too).
Anyway... just thought I'd echo your post since it's a rare person who "gets" the idea of machines with feeling.
-"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
> Harrison better make sure it has all the essentials. It's not good to mess with the formula that geeks have come to know and love:
* Snakes, and Indy saying how much he hates them.
* Guns, and Indy saying how much he hates them.
* Nazis.
* A big nasty strong guy whom Indy defeats with cunning rather than brawn.
* A scrawny little guy with pince-nez glasses and a thick accent.
* An artifact of supernatural powers.
* A scene in which the terrible power of the artifact is realised.
* Hat and bullwhip.
* Sassy love interest.
* John Rhys-Davies in a red fez.
* Denholm Elliot stuttering his way through his lines.
* One or more booby traps.
Sounds like the details of the script have already leaked out...
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According to Wikipedia, Indiana Jones is the combination of Spielberg's desire for a James Bond type movie with Lucas' love of the serialized "Republic" adventures of his childhood. Lucas even suggested the name "Jones" when Spielberg objected to the original name, a bland sounding "Indiana Smith".
In the production of the past Indiana Jones series, if memory serves, Lucas produced and Spielberg directed. So, if Lucas was going to fuck up the franchise he would have done so by now. I really wish they would explore an Atlantis theme along the lines of the "Fate of Atlantis" PC game, which I thoroughly enjoyed.
George Lucas approves! I guess it must be good then.
Harrison Ford has a better track record of picking good scripts. If he signs off on it I'll feel better.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
Did someone mention De Lorean?! Oh, no, wait you just mentioned Back to the Future, sorry.
"A flying De Lorean? I haven't seen one of those in ... thirty years."
What they need is Harrison Ford in a De Lorean going back in time to a younger self so he can continue to play Indy forever.
"Genius may shine aloof and alone, like a star, but goodness is social, and it takes two men and God to make a Brother."
yes, but IMDB also lists Die Hard 4 : Die Hardest
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Another bad one:
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"Good Riddin's"
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"Good Riddance"
Seems very amateurish the more I read.
Pretty sure it's pretty fake. But it's something to do at work
Harrison Ford is 63 years old. And as a matter of fact, he doesn't look his age and hasn't lost *any* of his old charms. It would be hard to imagine some one else as Indy. Can't express all my anxiety looking forward to the next Indy movie. Hey, Sean Connery is still playing Henry Jones right? The Last Crusade was by far the best Indy movie out of the three (Temple of Doom the worst, BTW). I hope the 4th one would top the list.
Eps IV-VI pushed the technology. Sound, motion control, matte work, etceteras. Used with skill and moderation for budgetary reasons.
I-III don't do anything that anything else on the market hasn't already done, and in most cases done better (Fifth Element and Galaxy Quest had vastly better non-humans, imo). Not only that, the effects work is so totally OVERKILL that it stops being "special", rockets right past "obvious" and settles down into "boring as hell."
Late in my academic career (3d effects and animation), I saw Episode I and Fear And Loathing in Las Vegas around the same time. Fear And Loathing was a vastly superior movie in every sense of the term - it ripped through my fanboi sensibilities like a nuclear test and left me wondering what, exactly, it was that I liked about movies.
Didn't take much for me to realize that what I like and what Lucas (and the Wachowskis, but that's another story) delivers is well below the level of what I'm looking for. "OOOH! PRETTY!" was great when I was eight, but I'm not eight anymore.
Today I am that randomly selected dude and I choose to mod you "-1 Offtopic". I have a bad hair day.
Standards Schmandards
Perhaps I'm mis-remembering, or maybe we just have different opinions, but personally I thought that the second Indiana Jones movie wasn't anywhere near the standard of the other two.
Raiders was a lot of fun, with both the script and the acting. It also had several very strong characters, including Marion Ravenwood, who's possibly one of the best female characters to have come out of a 1980's Hollywood movie.
In the Temple of Doom, this was all traded in for what seemed to be the boring stereotypical mid-80's movie formula at the time: a whinging helpless city girl being dragged along on an adventure, repeatedly made to look stupid by both Indy and an irritating 10-year old boy. The plot and the acting were both below standard.
I thought that Last Crusade was back to the original standard, though.
Indianna Jones is a really cool movie trilogy, and to be honest it's one of my favourites. I don't think you can look at it, though, and claim that it was classic and beautiful. I might go as far as saying that about two of the movies, but it severely trailed off in the middle. Maybe Lucas just got lucky with the original Star Wars movies.
I think they should do a Indiana Jones/HellBoy archeological supernatural artifact finding, nazi-ass kicking crossover movie. Yeah. That'd be awesome.
I'm selling these fine leather jackets.
I prefer crates, myself.
I thought we were talking about a new movie, not a new videogame...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Then, Steven Spielberg concentrates on the details. He fleshes out the plot, and Harrison Ford throws in the ad lib.
In short, Lucas should be the inspiration, and Spielberg should be the perspiration. Star Wars I & II is sufficient reason to keep Lucas in check.
As for the plot, since Harrison Ford is much older now, the appropriate theme would be something in the 1960s because the prior Indy films were set in the 1940s. The great tyrrany in the 1960s is, of course, mainland China and the Chinese occupation of Tibet. We could have Dr. Jones trekking to Tibet to find some lost artifact after first consulting with the Dalai Lama. Spielberg could throw in some old footage of the Chinese waving their little red Mao books at the height of the cultural revolution. There is also some old footage of Chinese soldiers randomly shooting at Tibetans.
Since Ford is a Buddhist and an admirer of the Dalai Lama, he would likely support such a plot.
Please don't make another Indy movie. You see, no matter how well executed it is, no matter how well-conceived it is, no matter how grandiose your overall plans are, the fans will inevitably nitpick it to death and ruin it for the young generation (and the young at heart) your films are generally meant for. I'm afraid my generation, despite growing up with your magical films, has become whiny and pathetic and we bitch and moan when you don't do thing 100% exactly like we expect. We want you to be just like the McDonalds we also grew up with. Make the next Indy film the most perfect Big Mac with Large Fries or we'll scream and shout that you've raped our childhood and that you suck beyond all comprehension.
Quite frankly, I love your films, but I don't know if I can handle another heaping, steaming pile of "fan" reaction yet again.
Thanks for hearing me out.
--Rick "If it isn't broken, take it apart and find out why."
Uh, oh ...
Can you imagine if they decide to re-release an "upgraded" Raiders of the Lost Ark? You remember the scene in the marketplace with all of they guys chasing Indy. The croud clears a circle and Indy is faced by a big guy with the sword. The guy shows off a bit swinging his sword around a lot. Then Indy just pulls out his gun and shoots the guy, and then walks away with a little grin on his face. (IMHO, one of the best scenes EVAR!)
Well, in the re-release he will wait and they guy comes charging at him. Indy dodges and then pistol-whips him on the back of the head and walks away with a remorseful look on his face because Lucas decides that he is really just a sensitive guy who would never shoot first, but only out of self-defense.
GAH! I think I need some mental-floss to clean that image out of my mind.
;p
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I really hope that Harrison Ford is going to play the father of someone. Otherwise I can see it now...
"Indiana Jones and the Wheelchair of Destiny"
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Dag, what's taking him so long? The script's been on Gnutella for weeks!
All's true that is mistrusted
Hilter: Join me, Indy! Come over to the Nazi side!
Indy: No!
Hitler: Please?
Indy: OK! Do you have any children you want me to kill?
the STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL!
So in your face, Anonymous Coward!
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call us now, and we'll throw in some more posts about f*cking mod points.
Um,.. at the top if this page it says: "news for nerds, stuff that matters".
Lately I've been reading so much about everyones points I've begun to wonder whether it was some new pokémon-age craze.
So I went to look it up, I searched for mod-point playing cards, mod-point action-figures, mod-point clothes just mod-point merchandising. My search was unsuccesfull. (business opporuntity anyone ?)
C'mon guys, yo know it's just a populatity contest in a nonexisting nerd society
this one is to take place in the 50's or 60's.
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That line about replacing Ford with Affleck is the funniest thing I've seen in a couple of days.
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I prefer crates, myself.
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Ah, so you took the puzzle path
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I think that the comments on Slashdot is the perfect form for announcing my resignation.
Why this hasn't been modded "hilarious" yet is beyond me...
Laughter is the best medicine, but in certain situations the Heimlich maneuver may be more appropriate.
BZZZZZZT!!!! WRONG ANSWER!!!! Jeffrey Boam did NOT write all three scripts.
Lawrence Kasdan wrote the script for Raiders.
William Huyck and Gloria Katz wrote the script for Temple of Doom.
Jeffrey Boam was the screenwriter ONLY for The Last Crusade.
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Laughter is the best medicine, but in certain situations the Heimlich maneuver may be more appropriate.
I'm going to ignore yout but for other readers will respond to the first part. The problem is the parent of my original post suggested that the big problem was China/Tibet - while ignoring that both were/are derived from the real menace - the Red one.
Yes I can see that. His kids yelling "Are we there yet ?" as he travels across the world searching for some lost artifact.
You know, there's one litmus test about the quality of an actor, that the screenwriter William Goldman came up with: look at their staying power. Some actors aren't very good, but are popular. People are fickle; they tend to not to stay enamoured for long.
Goldman thinks (and I tend to agree) there's no modern actor that can top Eastwood. Look at each decade for the past 40 years -- from the 60's through now. He would be on a top-10 list each time in terms of popularity.
Now a lot of this depends on how you define acting. Eastwood isn't a method actor or a character actor. He's a macho actor -- the "reassuring presence", as you say. Whether that's actually "acting" may be debatable, but I'll note that not too many people can pull that off. And they try.
-Stu
...that geeks have little or no sense of humor, and take crap like the Indiana Jones movies WAY too seriously. Ever consider it might be a joke?