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Command Line Life Partner Wanted
emj writes "Craiglist offers an interesting approach to finding a life partner , summmary: "There is a sad truth to the world today. I am part of a dying breed of people known as "shell users." ... Because there are fewer and fewer of us, I must help keep our lineage alive. I am looking for someone to help me do this. I need a woman (obviously) who is willing to raise a child with me in the method of Unix."."
grep -i 'single white female' /usr2/home/women/*
"Give someone a program, frustrate them for a day... Teach someone to program, frustrate them for a lifetime."
Don't be silly. Unichs can't have children.
This kid will get all the chicks.
I'm not sure I agree that shell users are a dying breed. Being a young developer (25yo) I and most, if not all, my co-workers are using a shell to develop and run unit debug/trace in. I think the amount of computer users in general has gone up so merely the ratio of shell/gui users has gone down.
who && gawk && uname && talk && date && wine && touch && unzip && strip && touch && finger && mount && fsck && more && yes; yes; more; yes; umount && make clean && sleep
Any women in Maine for a 22 year old guy who also lives on the command line? I already know... no...
SIG: HUP
In Ascii Animation. Call the kid Ski... Ahh, Ski.
Da-bum.
Just found the old codes to get light green on black.
Love that stuff.
ECHO (ESC)[10;0
Too bad, Im looking for a GUI Girl
No it doesn't.
Deep down, even if she doesn't know it, she's got Unix underneath, and whatever shell of choice one wants to run.
Hmm... a relationship consisting of short, efficient and flexible commands that can be combined in interesting ways. Sounds pretty good to me. But I've only seen it work in the BDSM world.
...wanna fork()?
#naabhaprzrag, #sverubfr-000, #agi-fcbafberq, negvpyr[pynff*=' negvpyr-ary-'] { qvfcynl: abar !vzcbegnag; }
(what is this "mating" thing you speak of? It sounds as messy and inelegant as Visual Basic. Yuck).
(come to think of it, this may explain why there are so few shell users left...)
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
Most people aren't command line geeks because they have no desire for that. If this person has kids and empowers them then they might become anything, but if this idea of spawning a kind of clone persists then the kids are likely to be constrained, unhappy, and ultimately failures at life.
Obviously, her looks are completely unimportant.
If Pandora's box is destined to be opened, *I* want to be the one to open it.
and wondered if you needed a woman who was willing to raise a child with you in the method of eunuchs.
She just muttered, "Geeks..."
What utter nonsense it this? The power and versatility of the UNIX shell(s) is exactly why I and many others choose to work with UNIX. In fact, I tend to work more and more in ksh - my X desktop is almost exclusively a handy way to have several xterms open. If I only had the gui, I would get next to nothing done.
unzip, strip, touch, finger, grep, mount, fsck, more, yes,fsck,fsck,fsck,umount, sleep.
Until I read this: I've been known to actually turn down offers of "two chicks at the same time."
Seriously though, I'd love to see the look on two girls' faces when this guy says, "Sorry ladies, I'm looking for a vi user, and you two look like you can't even use Word."
No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
They admit to being part of a "dieing breed" yet he is still looking for a mate? Darwin is spinning in his grave...
Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country did to you
> A modern computing system is not one that is run from the DOS commandline
Windows 2008 server core is not modern enough for you then? It is run from DOS(actually powershell) commandline.
There are no atheists when recovering from tape backup.
Don't forget to teach them Logo.
Go not unto/. for advice, for you will be told both yea and nay (but have nothing to do with the question)
Reminds me of this old column by Joab Jackson:
Tom Swiss | the infamous tms | my blog
You cannot wash away blood with blood
I did not choose my mate based on her acceptance of the CLI lifestyle. We have no children yet, but when we do whether they are introduced to Windows or Linux computers first is going to be a protracted and difficult battle.
The link is from this page: http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/01/21/free-software-community-and-forking/
C'mon, a unix admin even being offered "two chicks at the same time" is suspect. Him turning the offer down obviously makes this a fake.
I was quite sure that many women out there would find the ad very intriguing, until he got to the part about only using Vi. Seriously, why would you bring up your mental health conditions even before the first date?
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Crudely Drawn Games
The DOS command line did not run a modern computing system not even when it was first released.
Don't forget the other UNIX-y posting where an Intelligent atheist white man seeks sweetie.
He will have to propose. I wonder if he's going to go with diamond or a token ring?
Kwisatz Haderach
Sell the spice to CHOAM
This Mahdi took Shaddam's Throne
Is this luser aware of the fact that in Unix, it is perfectly legal for a child to kill its parent?
Sadly, if they are following the UNIX method, all they need to make children is 'fork'.
very important, that one...
No sig today...
Maybe they can all make buggy whips for a hobby.
... that this guy is confused about the purpose of the CLI in women.
So I hear Slashdot is rolling out a new dating service: SlashHeart. I personally predict it'll be a huge success, judging by the great ability most /.ers have at picking up chicks.
Reminds me of a batch file I wrote. It would start with a given pager number, and dial the next 100 numbers with the target number and (911) behind it. DDOS the bill collectors. :) Now no one has pagers...
Now, there's a lot to be said for a keyboard-driven command window for general computer operation -- but showing feedback as slowly scrolling lines of text isn't it.
He wants ONE child? Okay, so either he doesn't want his family to go anywhere or his grasp of the Unix way is very light. Of course he needs MANY children, each good at one and only one thing:
One child can read and write.
One child can do math.
One child knows how to operate a car.
And so on.
Then, in order to do anything useful he pipes together the children. That's the proper Unix way of founding a family.
USE HOT GRITS WITH STATUE OF NATALIE PORTMAN (NAKED AND PETRIFIED)
...you know that girl (now woman..maybe) in the first Jurassic Park, the whole "I know this, this is a Unix shell". Well, considering the time when that movie was released as opposed to now, she might just be the right age. And even if she doesn't fall within the whole "23-43" thing, take it as a sign to expand your lifestyle and 'live a little'. Who knows? You might just be scraping the legal age. Good luck!
Pat
[daleg@home]~$ ./significant-other
Reading configuration from ~/.sorc...
Welcome to GNU Significant Other! It's Monday, January 21, 2008:
-- It is trash night.
-- It is recycling night.
-- Fault in dishwasher water supply was detected on 1/19/2008. Please address by 1/23/2008
-- "Poker Night" appointment in calendar observed. This conflicts with "Movie with kids"
-- Snow is predicted tomorrow during the evening. Please ready sho
^Z
[1]+ Stopped ./significant-other
[daleg@home]~$
Dad: What is it son?
Son: Well, ever since I was young I knew I was different... Not like the other boy you wanted me to play with and...
Dad: Billy? Are you telling us you're gay?
Son: No! Not that dad...
Dad: Well son what is it?
Son: I've been dual booting XP for weeks now! I want to use a GUI!
Dad: WHAT?!! I have no son!
Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country did to you
Apropros: It's uncommon, but it does happen:
..rather a sad story.
http://fathersforlife.org/suicides/Allen_Wells/key_page.htm
---- It won't be as bad as you fear or as good as you hope, but it will take twice as long as you plan.
yes I know , its a tongue in cheek article , but to be serious for a second - I personally have never come across a unix developer or admin or support person who didn't use the shell. If you really need to manhandle the OS beyond playing with a few desktop toys you have little alternative. So while no doubt shell (if you can call cmd.exe a shell) users in Windows are a dying breed, in Unix/Linux they're very much alive and well.
No, some chicks most definitely look hotter than others in raw binary!
I only look human.
My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
Yeah. Would you choose a neurosurgeon who pokes around people's brains in his spare time? I wouldn't.
reading and writing is definitely more than one thing.
You would need a whole team of children to operate a car, and even then you should avoid "race conditions"!
I only look human.
My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20011229&mode=classic
The truth shall set you free!
http://www.spack.org/wiki/InTheBeginningWasTheCommandLine
And somebody help me find the essay about the command line vs. GUI environments, where the author rants about how inefficient GUIs are for development work. It may have been written by Larry Wall or somebody like him.
---- It won't be as bad as you fear or as good as you hope, but it will take twice as long as you plan.
Shift-Right click will bring up a shell anywhere, even on the desktop. I've been using it to install the Enthought Tool System (ETS) and it works great. I know there used to be a Powertoy that did this but I don't think it was as powerful.
I also use the prompt for burning bootable DVD's. I download Server Tools and use the dvdburn.exe utility. Shells are on their way back.
man bash
I can see it now...colonies of geeks will spring up all over that are only allowed to marry each other and can't use any computer technology developed after 1986.
Ok, so the only reason he turned down two girls is because they only had one cup between them...
Setting his threshold to 5, Sparky eliminated most of the trolls on /.
There is no way to say this kindly, so here it goes: if that's the only difference you know of between the DOS command line and, say, bash, then you are not qualified to compare command line shells.
Started simply, with ipconfig release/renew, using that as a gateway drug, I mean, command.
Yeah, but you need one to do the other anyway. It's a bit of a compromise.
USE HOT GRITS WITH STATUE OF NATALIE PORTMAN (NAKED AND PETRIFIED)
Let me count the limitations of the DOS commandline:
Now, maybe you meant the DOS box in Windows 9x, which is another animal entirely. There's still plenty to say about that one, though. Not very scriptable -- the only real way to make a function, if I remember, is to wrap it up in another batchfile. I'm not sure simple aliases were possible.
I realize most of this is lost on you, but the original DOS commandline was a major step back from Unix, and it has improved since then -- Windows CMD.exe is an improvement, and PowerShell is probably a larger improvement (though I haven't used it).
But there is more to UI than just what you see and touch directly. Example: tab-completion. I can now name directories and commands more verbosely, so that they are more readable, knowing that tab-completion means they're not really any harder to type.
Better example: On my Linux shell, I can hit ctrl+z to suspend the current process, "bg" to background it, or ever "disown" it to detach it from the current shell entirely. If I don't disown, I can type "fg" to bring it back to the foreground. With the "jobs" command, and a little special syntax, I can actually multitask from a single commandline environment.
If you don't think multitasking is a major UI difference, you need your head examined.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
There's one other little difference: If you know anything about using shells, CMD.EXE will make you want to tear your hair out within 30 seconds. (And COMMAND.COM would make you want to shoot yourself.) Real shells don't make you want to do those things.
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I am the master of the CLI! Remember this fucking face, whenever you see CLI you'll see this fucking face!! I make that shit work, it does whatever the fuck I tell it to.. No one rules the CLI like me...
Hmm, just thought: It wouldn't be hard to set up a geek dating service online.
:-)
Post your requirements and i'll see what i can do
Some obvious requirements:
Anonymity, Messaging, Searching by typical geek attributes (using geek-code and such as basis for the categories?)
What about RSS-Feeds and email notification?
Look, this thing is totally safe! Built it myself, you know. You just press that button like this and then turn that lev
Two people accustomed to often using the Unix CLI for their work/passion are likely to have a lot in common, as using the CLI a) really isn't that common and b) requires a measurable amount of intelligence and mental flexibility combined with precision and foresight.
A specialty like unix cli usage really isn't the worst measurement for finding a partner for life. It definitely holds more water that looks or brand of car.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
My parents had big ideas on how I would turn out, too. Even tried to raise me so.
Can't say that worked out too well for them.
Pathological kinda promises Path + Logical - but instead, you get stuck with pathetic.
Wow you've haven't used DOS for very long have you? Try doing any sort of job control in DOS.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
LOL nice social engineering to find yourself a girlfriend that actually gives a shit about what you do; specifically. Those are hard to find, usually they don't want to hear about "all that computer stuff" but you need to listen to them and there project runway bs. Kudos if it works !
Thank goodness for evolution. Dying breeds should be allowed to die. This particular dying breed was killing Linux. It could have been a significiantly more successful product had we been able to weed out this dying breed 2-4 years earlier.
You can lead a man with reason but you can't make him think.
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I can say from experience that having a programming and shell-using wife is a great thing, but we don't exactly sit around for hours shooting the breeze about technology. After working an entire day writing code neither of us really want to discuss it in our free time, and although we both have serious web addictions, we never cross paths with each other online. Our relationship is purely here in the real world.
It's great, but it's not the universe defining nucleus of our marriage or anything like that.
% man sex ./woman ./woman: Permission denied.
No manual entry for sex.
% man sex > woman
%
to agree to allow me to teach them binary math first.. I wanted to teach them how to count to 1023 on their fingers (4, 128, and 132 are a scream)
I gotta lotta hell no.. but imagine it-- if your kids intuitively knew binary-- or hex-- imagine the abilitys for a future programmer..
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
they are notoriously bad spellers.
If he used VI, how could he.
I mean unless he uses Lynx to surf.
Tsukasa: All I really want, is to be left alone...
%make love
Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop.
% sleep with me
bad character
% man: why did you get a divorce?
man:: Too many arguments.
From gnu.org.
:wq
Maybe you should dynamically link them with a "standard library" child.
I don't know if he really should be going after a Unix woman. I hear the real Unix sluts allow men to 'finger' and 'touch' them on the first date! And the really bad ones even allow 'mounting'! He had better grep for a Windows woman, ASAP. They're far more prude. You can't finger, touch, or mount them. Unfortunately they tend to crash hard at the end of the night, and tend to carry virii...that is if you ping em enough :-)
"Know but never fear the consequences of your actions."
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but Windows command line != DOS. The last Windows operating system to actually run on DOS was Win95. Since then, the Windows command line has maintained the original DOS syntax, but a true DOS layer is not present. Try running some old DOS games (Privateer anyone?) on your Windows 2008 box and let me know how that works out.
It's better to be the foot on the boot than the face on the pavement. ~~ tkx Kadin2048
The "Five Chinese brothers" fairy tale comes to mind. Each brother posessed a supernatural ability, and they all looked alike.
WYSIWIG, but what you see might not be what you need
Amen, brother! I have that problem too. I had these two latina chicks over the other night and they wanted to reverse sandwich me (whatever that is), but one was a win98 type and the other runs Leopard. So I said, "Sorry bitches.."
**Copied from xkcd.com**
"Make me a sandwich."
"What? Make your own sandwich."
"Sudo Make me a sandwich."
"Ok"
They are still living in a shell. (wink)
Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
There was nothing wrong with punch cards. And there was always a paper trail.
I still want to have a Beowulf cluster executing these commands in parallel.
END COMMUNICATION
DOS had many deficiencies that modern shells lack, like for instance its lack of multitasking and, more specifically, the need for terminate-and-stay-resident calls to emulate (inefficiently) multitasking of a kind. This led to all kinds of interesting problems where the OS was not really meant for multiple processes, so had memory which was not partitioned (i.e., no virtual memory to keep programs' memory separated from each other). So there were all kinds of hacks where you could have a background process that runs, sorta, and edits the memory of the running process. Many of these were beneficial third-party things just meant to make DOS usable as an OS.
Another clear distinction is that DOS was not merely a shell, but a whole OS. Modern OS command lines are actually shells like bash or tcsh, which are very rich with features like tab completion and command history, as well as a more useful batch scripting facility. I can actually do most of my work in a pure command-line environment with bash, vim, and a couple of other programs. I could never do that in DOS ever because it's just not nearly as powerful as a POSIX shell.
He claims to have 2:1 income vs. expenses. Man + Wife + Child != 2 Hell, it doesn't even equal three. I think he is in for a rude awakening.
Is he strong? Listen bud, He's got radioactive blood.
He had me at vi.
Let me count the limitations of the DOS commandline:
Has noone used DOSKEY? I've seen this in several threads now, and it's one aspect of DOS that is not true. Features introduced in MS-DOS 5 should be fair game. (And F3 worked to recall the latest command before that.)
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That's the unfortunate thing with your so-called child(8) processes ... when time comes, if they are like your common Windows childrens, they may grow older, and more feature-full ... this leads to unexpected side-effects, such as growing gray matter
... Now, I even come to doubt the real benefits of this whole Unixen fork(3)-ing ...
.. have access to top-notch hardware, but I fear this is not the ideal position for experimenting a real-life fork(3), though :-)
For example, some of them may learn to both do Math AND read
How to cope with that ? Any well behaved Unices's parents will induce a multiple personality 'disorder'. In this manner, each and every personality trait will be confined in its own nerve cell, producing a more stable kid, with fewer chances of Core Dump...
I, for one, envy the happy parents, as when I tried to raise the little buggers in this way, flawed peoples did take all my processes, and really chroot(2)'ed me
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Where I am sentenced to create some stable OSes for some shady firm
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Try being someone who uses a command-line almost exclusively under Windows. Good luck finding your woman then! Seriously... Mousing sucks, but not as much as recompiling a kernel.
-Clio
Karma: Bad (mostly from not giving a fuck)
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you must have impressive uptime.
Argh. The laws of science be a harsh mistress.
"When we first met we just clicked."
Engineering is the art of compromise.
He simply needs to read man fork to learn how!
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Hans, settle down.
Hail Eris, full of mischief...
E pluribus sanguinem
Don't fuck a mounted filesystem, or you will fsck everything up! For fsck's sake, call umount before fucking.
>north
You're an immobile computer, remember?
Agreed! Everyone who failed to load ansi.sys and get a gloriously colored DOS prompt can turn his geek card back in. (Lifelong UNIX usage is a valid excuse, but that doesn't seem to be the case for the OP...)
grep -iR "female" /home/me/
:( ;)
will a geek girl love me now? please?
Medium cat is MEDIUM.
unzip|strip|touch|finger|mount|fsck|more|yes|grep|awk|awk|awk|sync|umount|sleep;
It's an old old old old old joke but what the heck, I'm an old old old old old unix hack.
And I'm a shell user of many years as well. Unfortunately, I believed http://www.adminspotting.org/ long before it was ever posted. And no, I'm not going to give you a prettified link to click on to go find it. That's called hubris. If you'd ever bothered to read about the BOFH you'd know that. It's a skill our kind all cultivate, like a Jedi Knight pulling his light sabre into his hand using only his mind.
"...Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last on some miserable newsgroup, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up lusers Gates spawned to replace the computer-literate."
We are a dying breed.
And as the dumb-assed thumb-tribes continue to neglect the technologies that will serve the next generation, they empower the very organizations who will lord it over them for a life-time. Is it any wonder that large companies like Time-Warner, ComCast, and AT&T can afford to be audacious pecker-heads if they so choose? If you don't understand it, you'll just have to pay the bill and pray that it keeps working. Or you could read MAKE Magazine and the Anarchists Cookbook and build your own light sabre....
And just for the record; MAKE Magazine is a pale and shallow comparison to the homebrew and amateur radio scenes of the late Seventies and early Eighties.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm old. I have to go yell at those damned kids to get them off of my lawn.
Agreed! Everyone who failed to load ansi.sys and get a gloriously colored DOS prompt can turn his geek card back in. (Lifelong UNIX usage is a valid excuse, but that doesn't seem to be the case for the OP...)
WHAT?!! Most self respecting geeks upon receiving their new DOS PC immediately edited config.sys to remove ansi.sys. Who needs an almost pointless 8k driver slurping up your precious RAM?!
Obviously, this is in response to the Stallman - best of craigslist ab_iron
gawk; chat; look; nice; date; wine; grep; touch; play; unzip; strip; touch; expand; screen; finger; screen; latex; tangle; mount; fsck; more; yes; yes; yes; yes; screen; yes; yes; yes; more; yes; yes; umount; sleep
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This guy sounds like a total loser, but I still use shells for a bunch of reasons. When I'm at the library, I'd always bring up a shell and type in bullshit commands to hold my computer so nobody would touch it. Other than that, when I'm working in a shell, I like to think people might assume I'm hacking into some top-secret pentagon database.
Either way... this guy is definitly a huge loser.
I wouldn't necessarily say so. My boyfriend and I are both 18-year-old shell users. I don't know how many girls my age are into the kinds of things I am, though, but I see he's after a slightly older woman, so that might increase his odds. By a negligible amount.
Sometimes (or many times) CLI is just faster than futzing around with a confusing GUI. This is especially true when the GUI is awful, much like older builds of Solaris (my last experience was in the late 90s).
It would seem that it would be easier to find a woman who would be entirely subservient to whatever you want, or however you want your child to be raised...
/bin/sh is there ?)
Between all the various religions and cults that believe the woman should be subservient to the husband (fundamentalist Christians: "the man is the head of the house", Muslims, etc, etc), it should be easy to find one of those... easier than finding a woman who understands #!/bin/sh...
then wifey will do whatever you say... (ain't too much difference between those cults and the cult of
Can the BSD operating system be tuned here?
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Unix is not just an operating system.... It's a way of life...
Need I say more?
Cheers,
Xyst
Best three-world response on Slashdot ever.
Advice: on VPS providers
They ARE out to get you simply because They are in it for themselves and they don't care about you.
>PS - yes, this is for real.
I'm sorry, but this is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Wanting more people to use the command line is not a suitable justification for bringing a new human being into the world. It certainly is not the basis for a healthy relationship.
It's true that all sorts of people who aren't qualified to reproduce do so anyway. Just be aware that you are in that group.
Also, no, just knowing what KSH is doesn't guarantee you have prime genetic material.
we all know you've been abusing all that hard pore Korn.
And that excuse of having better forearm strength from using all 10 fingers aint getting any better.
All software should be developed in a manner that allows full command line use - the UNIX way - . The GUI should be the frosting, although some of us eat cake without it. Does this posting imply that development has become half-hazard?
I've given up moderation in this discussion, solely to say that there should be a +6 Funny reserved for posts like this. :D
See Cryptonomicon for solution...
Let's see...
Need I go on?
In NT, they are no longer what I would call "DOS prompts".
Unless they run X, where they don't need their own drivers. And I can do all kinds of fun things from the commandline, including feed arbitrary Javascript into my browser, change songs, etc.
The difference is, you can set $PATH to not include . on *NIX. Can't do that in DOS.
Not sure I'd call it strictly DOS, in that case. Goes for the web browser example, too.
Regardless, even if all that's happened is better terminals, from your post, it seems you'd agree with me that progress in commandline environments does happen. That is the point I was trying to make.
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And this one avoids many of the jokes about the other ad, because GNU's Not Eunuchs.
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>> And how many UNIX commands do you regularly use that are longer than 8 characters?
> Let's see...
> * ec2-describe-instances
> * ec2-run-instances
> * ec2-* (lots more examples where that came from)
> * wineconfig
> * update-alternatives
> * dpkg-reconfigure
You use these on a regular basis? Funny, the commands I use on a regular basis are all shorter than 8:
I can, in fact, only think of one core utility longer than 9 characters: traceroute.
GLaDOS for President 2016! "Well here we are again. It's always such a pleasure." -- GLaDOS, 2011
I'm pretty sure I did different bases in grade 5 and I'm certainly no genius. I just had a good teacher that liked to bring out some of the simpler Martin Gardener puzzles to stop us getting bored with mathematics.
Nice call on that. Just wanted to say thanks for reminding me of Privateer. It very well might have been my gateway to the world of the command line. Damn thing would refuse to run on my old 486Dx2 (mind you when I did get it to run, it felt like I was cheating the gameplay was so smooth) because the game "Required 564kb of Conventinal memory". I had hit the 640k limit hard. So I self-learned my way through the dark world of EMM386, Himem.sys, Autoexec.bat and Config.sys. Played with memmaker a lot and watched how it modified config.sys. Read through the help(man?) pages. and after what was loterally weeks of messing around, one time I typed priv.exe and by god it worked. And it was so worth it (Privateer is an awesome game, I highly recommend checking out the remake if interested). But since I somehow managed all that when I was 4-5 years old, I developed a keen intrest in the 'cool' things I could do with DOS. I eventually moved onto QBasic and got to play with things like screen modes. (13 is the funnest for making random screansaver type programs). When I first heard about this linux thing when I was 14 I was really interested and my science teacher thought it was kind of neat too and he let me set up a version of Corel Linux that I had bought at stables (this was before CD burners were common) on one of the classroom computers (I imagine this would be very rarely allowed today, if at all). Anyways, it was actually a pretty big hit with a fair slice of the school population, and getting to be able to use the 'penguin computer' was a treat. (No doubt also because it came with some pretty fun games). Anyways, just thought I would share in my little 'the root of how I became a shell user'. Thank you Privateer for being not just a great game, but for forcing me to learn the prompt. :)
They'd be vulnerable to a Snow Crash, though!
I just look at the code and see, "Blonde, Brunette, Redhead..."
I rally can't think of a modern system where you can't use the command line. In fact, most developers I work will drop to the command line from time to time.
However if you learn the hot keys, you can move through windows faster then a command line can do anything, usually.
Example to get to the explore it's just 2 key strokes. Plus I get a nice overall view of the directory tree;which is better then Dir.
This person is just a myopic dinosaur that refuses to adept. I wonder if he even know 10 hot key commands for his chosen OS GUI.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
Yea, imagine yourself a beowolf cluster of children .. or .. would that be called slavery? ;)
--- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
"I've been known to actually turn down offers of "two chicks at the same time""
Come on guys. This is obviously not a human being. Whether or not a guy goes after pie or pickles, he NEVER, EVER, refuses them 2 at a time. Heck, the greatest moves in the biz REQUIRE 2 pies or pickles minimum.
I'm no John Holmes, or Ron Jeremy, and I would be nervous as hell if 2 or more chicks tried to do it with me.... but I would give a good shot at it with some serious elbow grease. No would not even be an option to consider.
So I am going to go with, "What is a Turing Test Alex".
CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK
Hey! That's my sig you're smoking there!
Yeah, most of them every day.
Aside from aptitude, you've just described stuff that I might use several times per minute, or one after the other. (Except w.) These are things where it does help to have a shorter command name, and where I might alias one if it didn't exist already.
Also, I cheated a bit, in a way which helps my point even when I show you the truth... ec2-describe-instances is also available as ec2din.
Same for all the ec2-* commands. ec2-describe-images is ec2dim; ec2-run-instances is ec2run, and so on.
It's not so much that I'm concerned of namespace conflicts, although there is that. I could certainly see having one 'ec2' command and following it up with an argument, like "ec2 describe-instances", although that doesn't always work (dpkg --reconfigure doesn't work; dpkg-reconfigure does).
It's more that this verbosity makes things much more readable. If you know what an ec2 "instance" is, vs an "image", then just about any ec2-* command I run (especially if I use long arguments) will immediately make sense to you. This is especially true if I put them in scripts, where you see things like start-stop-daemon.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
Atlast someone looking for shell scripting skills... Life rocks with sed, awk, grep, scp, ssh, ls...
Not quite your analogy is quite off. Moving a Zealot to Moderation is different then moving a Moderate to becoming a Zealot or worse one from of Zealot to the opposing form for Zeal. What would be more apt analogy would be more like try to get a christian to realize there is a possibility that their religion could be completely wrong, but not have them believe it. Or have radicle christian believe that parts of the bible are to be taken as metaphor not actual, and much of the information has been lost over centuries of word of mouth stories, and many translations.
You wonder why Atheists are discriminated against. They demand tolerance towards their belief in the universe, but they are unwilling to tolerate the people they want toleration from. You need to remember there is still no solid proof that God does or Does Not exits. In order to prove the state of God you will need to find a way of giving a solid proof of testing gods existence, not just stating that facts in a religion is wrong.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I have a hunch that "small pieces loosely joined" is not going to be healthy for the child.
September 2011: Looking for Cocoa/iOS work in Boston area Cocoa Programmer Quincy, MA
Wait... wait... you lost me... can you use a car analogy? Like You can't turn a red Ford into a blue Chevy, but a VW Bug with the right body kit...
Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country did to you
for i in `find ${SOMEPATH} -f`; do grep -i $i; done;
load "linux",8,1
The joke is about someone with absurdly specific interests. It's no different than the classified ad by the maritally inclined bachelor farmer seeking ``a lady with a tractor. Please send picture of tractor.''
The thing that sucks about this craigslist post is there is no contact info.
Linux girls need love too!
Dangling love pointers are bad!
A short cut to start the command prompt makes it "great" - is that really all what got improved.
Well, for me it takes more to a great command prompt - but then I use 4NT ever since MS-Dos 3.11 (at that time called 4Dos or NDos). Have a look for your self of what a great command prompt can do for you:
http://www.jpsoft.com/
Martin
# I thought I would express the desire of a geek to shack up with another
:hasOffspring ?it . :Offspring;
:hasFather ?me . :hadSexWith :spouse .
:objectiveBeautyRating ?rating;
:textEditorPreference ?pref. :hasFather :me;
:hasMother ?spouse . . .
# geek and make babies through the expressive power of a SPARQL CONSTRUCT
# query. Just run it through your favourite query processor and savour the
# result (the kid will end up drinking coffee if you use the Java processor)
# Namespaces omitted. Code is released under the GNU General Public License.
# TODO: add divorce inference mode for v. 2
CONSTRUCT
{
?me
?it a
}
WHERE
{
?me
?spouse foaf:gender "female";
?it
}
FILTER ( ?rating > 7 )
FILTER ( ?pref != "emacs" )
catch (HumourFailureException e) { e.user.send("You, sir, are a humourless idiot."); }
I was just wondering at which point we changed the subject from Unix to DOS (Disk Operating System - the precurser to MSDOS, DRDOS, Windows, etc... IE - C:\insert_dir_here ).??
You don't use notepad to browse in Windows do you?
Karma: Non-Heinous
*error insufficient memory Remember this guy is a command line user. Maybe this will help;
rep -i 'asian schoolgirl'
Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23