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Hippies Say WiFi Network Is Harming Their Chakras
Anti-Globalism writes "A group of hippies is complaining that a recently installed WiFi mesh network in the UK village of Glastonbury is causing health problems. To combat the signals from the Wi-Fi hotspots, the hippies have placed orgone generators around the antennae." Although there have been many studies that show no correlation between WiFi and health issues the hippies say, "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
I've been saying hippies are harming my wifi network for years. Damn hippies.
You can't own the electromagetic spectrum, man.
Isn't ironic that hippies are harmful to my health.
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One man has even begun making orgone generators, which use crystals, semi-precious stones and gold to purportedly put out positive energy to combat the negative vibes flooding the town from the Wi-Fi base stations.
Elsewhere:
Orgone Generators change negative energy from microwaves, TV's, cell phones, computers, fluorescent lighting, automotive wiring, large electrical structures, high voltage lines and step-down electrical transformers, etc. into pure or positive life energy.
Positive Orgone is also known as Chi(China), Prana(India), and Ki(Japan).
The basic and simplified theory of how the orgone devices work is that the negative energy is attracted into the device by the organic component and then it gets bounced back and forth between the resin and suspended metal particles. Crystalline structures within the mix cause the energy to get organized and re-radiated as a positive, clean energy.
Oh yes, these sound like reasonable people.
Everyone knows it's cell phones that cause health problems.
I think it's funny that the hippie movement in SF imploded within months.
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
No, it would be a coincidence, even if they are harmful to your health.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
I read once that people who work on the antennas in mobile communication towers suffer from headaches, dizziness, nausea, severe tiredness, brain fog, disorientation and loss of appetite, loss of balance, and an inability to concentrate if they are exposed to the radiation for too long. So maybe those hippies are just extremely sensitive people. Do they use mobile phones?
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making hippies think they are protected from "harmful" radio waves, so other people can enjoy the internet.
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...and it makes me feel greater.
I'll see you sometime later
When I'm through with my Accumulator.
Once I was a four stone apology. Now I am two separate gorillas.
I am just a bit cautious about the credibility of their news articles.
I love it! Replaced my wireless router with Gbit wiring in the house; works much better.
Will put up a sleeping pyramid and several orgon collectors as well to compensate for the remaining waves.
I mean - where is all the crap on the planet coming from?
Nobody gives a shit about it any more. Gotta start somewhere cleaning up.
1. Buy a couple hundred acres in the National Radio Quiet Zone and build a resort/spa/retirement community for all the well-heeled electromagnetophobes.
2. Quietly buy up as much of the valley as you can, then support campaigns to get Blue Cross and Medicare to cover electromagnetic hypersensitivity.
3. Profit.
I'd do it, but I don't believe I could live with myself. Especially if I had to give up ubiquitous broadband.
FiWi connectians doesn't mess up your ability to think, you knough.
It is not a bunch of hippies doing the complaining, it is the residents. They have little use for the WiFi, which has been used 422 times in 6 months. I suspect the locals know exactly what they want. Maintaining jobs and a way of life, which draws on 5000 years of hocus pocus. Orgone generators are right in there as a mix of crystals and gold and romanticism.
As for the headaches? Quite genuine reporting I'd say. My father told me that a satellite receiving station near where he worked was found to generate a wide mix of ills in the 3 months following its official opening. This was not published because it would have embarrassed the Minister. Due to a cock-up in parts supply, they faked the opening and it sat idle but impressive whilst headaches abounded.
Headaches occur, and people want causes assigned. It's a matter of opinion whether it is better to blame an aerial or a spell cast by a witch. Just so long as the majority have a good laugh in the pub in the off-season. Witchcraft is a bit like Royalty. A good historical reason for people to kill each other, but really just a useful source of tourist dollars these days.
Use Humor instead: In other news Samzenpus was seen wearing his "Respect My Authoritah" Cartman T-shirt while adding this to the mainpage ;)
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Warning: Hippies may or may not cause nausea and contempt towards said group. I've heard a lot of these kinds of incidents lately. Some douche has a bright idea on something that might cause a health hazard if they put som effort into it, and suddenly, you've got children and mothers and hippies everywhere with electro magnetic and WiFi allergies. *MEH*
I was at Glastonbury for the winter solstice and was chuckling to myself at this story in the local newspaper.
The company that runs the WiFi also provides some high quality streaming webcams - See for yourself.....
http://www.checkglastonburylive.com/
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Even the false things.
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rediculous.
Um, actually, the pork thing was quite reasonable in its time. The prohibition against eating pork existed for simple health reasons. Before refrigeration, it was just too easy for pork to go bad and develop trichinosis. Now, the modern practice is rather silly since we scientifically understand it and can prevent problems by keeping the pork cold enough before cooking or serving. How did we get from ancient health code to modern dogma? In ancient times, rules of conduct (social values, health codes, who can breed with whom) were passed down by religion! And all too often, religion becomes thoughtlessly followed dogma. (Before anybody berates me with biblical info, I am aware that the pork prohibition is related to the prohibition against any cloven-footed animal.)
So, in a more concise answer to your question of how this hippie thing is any more stupid than the pork thing, the pork thing may now be dogma, but it comes from a valid reason whereas the hippies have access to modern science to tell them they're full of shit.
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This is why you cure ham. This process is very common all across Southern Europe, and works quite well to disinfect the product. Basically, the restriction against eating ham only cropped up just because there was an unusual ancient tribe some thousands of years ago that didn't raise pigs. Somehow they got this practice into their holy books and, well, the rest is history.
hippies... hippies... they say they want to save the world, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.
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Pork still isn't that healthy to eat today, loaded with fat and about half the world population does not have refrigerators or freezers or adequate means to eat it safely
Yeah, you may remember this story from March '08 about the norcal hippy town that turned down free public wifi from Sonic.net due to health concerns.... -->> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/26/0118237 I live in that little town and I love my hippy brethren, but they're fucking nuts. I want my WiFi, damn it... every time I try to educate someone on the subject I get the same kind of "that's just, like, your opinion, man" response. I guess I'm stuck leeching wifi around the residential areas.... *sigh*
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The local paper (Fosse Way) published this story without the slightest critical analysis whatsoever. As someone who has worked on, inter alia, the EMC Directive, I wrote to them asking whether the person complaining of headaches had taken part in a blind test. Perhaps needless to say, the letter has not been published and indeed I've had no acknowledgement of it.
BTW, they do not have a "way of life which draws on 5000 years of hocus pocus". The Glastonbury thing dates back to no more than the 19th century: it's as fake as Druidism in Wales. Glastonbury is just a small town in Somerset that used to make its money from the leather industry till it went bust under Thatcher. Now it's a retirement suburb, the most Conservative part of the district. Currently a few protestors are trying to stop the demolition of the old factory buildings to put up an industrial estate - the old buildings cannot be brought up to modern standards and are a complete eyesore.
Why do I complain about this? Because I live in the part of Somerset that is a net contributor of taxes to keep the residents of Glastonbury from having to have industry and jobs, that's why.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
I'm an old hippie that is into ham radio, ex-broadcast engineer, wifi junkie, and general RF geek. I can report that my charkras are fine and dandy. See how they glow.
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If they cannot control their environment which they perceive harming then putting whatever makes them feel better is a good thing. /.ers you may find that those are not that much different in structure and effects and looking at hatred and lack of respect that is usually associated with any discussion involving religion/belifs (on /. and elsewhere) you may conclude that the conduct of hippies is rather sensible. At least they did not blow anybody up or shot with shotgun as it seems to be the habit of late.
If you compare it with habits and beliefs of general population or even
Interestingly your story about how trichinosis has something to do with storage of pork is a good example of how 'well' informed general population is. For your information - the warms that live in pigs flesh and which cause the disease if humans consume such badly processed (cooking is killing the larva) flesh need living mammal to develop. So it is not meat going bad before consumption but meat being infected before the animal got sliced into your nice piece of ham. There could be other reasons why pork is not allowed in certain cultures - economic concerns for instance.
The receptionist at work complained that she started getting rashes and other symptoms after we installed a wifi repeater outside her office door, claiming she's electrical sensitive. The problem was that the wifi wasn't even up and running until a few weeks later when the mesh was finished. And also she doesn't have a problem with the cell phone in her pocket which is orders of magnitude more powerful... And she claims that her alarm radio is sending radio-waves at her during the night and waking her up. That's the idea and you get the picture... Some people here have good fun.
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First, you're assuming that the dogma was created for an originally valid reason. It may have been -- your theory is not totally unreasonable. But by and large the world did not understand communicable or food-borne diseases until very recently, and while your reasoning is logical given modern knowledge it's a stretch to say some ancient politician reached the same conclusions without that knowledge. Even the ancient reasoning was similar to what you describe -- if someone observed better health in populations that avoided pigs -- it is extremely unlikely that anyone studied enough populations to collect anything other than an anecdote or two, and therefore the decision was no more based on science than modern hippie dogma. And without any particular evidence relating to the reasoning behind the law it's entirely possible that pigs are verboten simply because some ancient politician wanted to put his pig-owning business competitors out-of-business.
Second, modern Jews and Muslims both have access to modern science, modern food preparation and butchering techniques, and most have access to refrigeration. If "hippies have access to modern science" is enough reason to call hippie dogma dumb then "Jews have access to modern science" is enough reason to call Jewish dogma dumb. But by definition dogma operates in opposition to science -- dogma is not to be questioned -- so you can't expect scientific reasoning to be used to overturn dogma.
Third, I'd argue that a typical person <i>does not</i> have access to modern science. Certainly society as a whole has a whole has the requisite knowledge to make an informed decision, and certain individuals may as well, but the average person has a very poor understanding of "modern science" and treats most of the "science" they do know as nothing more than modern cultural dogma.
You don't need an intelligent designer.
By pure "evolution" of religions the people with benificial rules would be more succesfull and more likely to outcompete others.
First, modern pork is leaner that it's ever been. Roasted pork tenderloin, for example, is significantly less fatty than roasted mutton (about 22% fat by caloric content, vs. 42% for mutton). I use mutton as an example because it's not outlawed by any (non-vegetarian) dogma, and is a typical foodstuff in places where pork is not allowed. Even ham is comparable in fat content to mutton.
Second, it doesn't require refrigeration to cure pork into ham. Traditionally preservation is the reason for curing meat in the first place. The fact that it can also be used to change or enhance flavor is a secondary usage, at least before refrigeration.
Third, in places where people don't have access to refrigeration, extra dietary fat is probably not a bad thing. It's not like dietary fat is fundamentally bad -- you need a good deal of it to be healthy -- like most things it's only bad in excess. And I can virtually guarantee that people who live without ready access to refrigeration don't eat enough meat to be worried about too much dietary fat intake.
Obviously, you're not a golfer.
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Mate, there is a reason why the tranmission towers are turned off when being serviced; I don't know what shit box operation you're running in the US but in most other countries they don't subject employee's to radio waves that can kill birds.
Don't insult The Onion by comparing them Fox news. The Onion is America's finest news source.
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Those hippies are going to be royally fucked when they realise the huge ball of incandescent gas at the middle of our solar system is the largest electromagnetic transmitter within several billion miles. How are they going to fix THAT one?
as if modern medicine is able to fathom full extent of physiological and psychological issues of homo sapiens sapiens ....
something not being known yet doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
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Wifi usually has very low power. DECT is usually much more harmful. It is not such a good idea to keep the wireless phone on the nightstand if it is not in the cradle it keeps radio connection with.
Electromagnetic radiation can be a real, measurable hazard to health. But usually the worst offender is the radio clock on the night stand less than 50 cm away from your head. Cheaply made and poorly shielded it can have an effect on you body.
Here is to hippies:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103815/
Everything generates EM radiation, even your own body.
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"We've got fivefold increase of health-related complaints since we installed that cellular antenna. That's pretty scary. What's gonna happen when we actually start to use it?"
These people simply snore. They drink too much, or whatever they do to balance their chakras, then suffer apnea during sleep. All the mentioned symptoms fit quite well:
FTFA: "headaches, dizziness, nausea, severe tiredness, brain fog, disorientation and loss of appetite, loss of balance, inability to concentrate, loss of creativity"
Say out loud: I'm an Aspie and I'm somewhat proud, I guess. Uh. Can I write an email in all caps instead? Hm...
"Before refrigeration, it was just too easy for pork to go bad and develop trichinosis."
Good theory... except for the fact the trichinosis evolves on a living pig, not a dead one.
"Now, the modern practice is rather silly since we scientifically understand it and can prevent problems by keeping the pork cold enough before cooking or serving."
Unbacked assertions have been never consider "scientific practice". You are "laughing" at some other's faith but fail to see you yourself are a devote of the Church of Science (there's a scientific explanation for this; if I don't know it I'll invent one out of my ass).
What has put to an end trichinosis on modern countries are sanitary controls on live populations of farm pigs and post-mortem analysis of suspected meat (like that from wild oars) nothing to do with refrigeration.
Oh! and muslims won't eat pork because it's a dirty animal, just this.
"the pork thing may now be dogma, but it comes from a valid reason whereas the hippies have access to modern science to tell them they're full of shit."
Just like you. The fact that your shit is politically more palatable doesn't make you less full of it.
You need one, dude.
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
"This is why you cure ham."
Nope.
"This process is very common all across Southern Europe, and works quite well to disinfect the product."
Nope.
Trichinosis is a parasitic illness produced by eating "eggs" (I don't know the proper English word) from 'Trichinella spiralis'. Only proper cooking will kill them. Cured ham (Spanish jamón, Itailan prosciuto, etc.) is a known vector for this illness.
Curing meat is *not* a disinfectation process but a conservation one... and it conserves Trichinium "eggs" just as good as it preserves pig's flesh.
But chicken is about as 'unsafe' as pork, yet the whole friggin' world eats chicken.
Religion is what happens when nature strikes and groupthink goes wrong.
*Everything* was dangerous in those times if you didn't eat it within half an hour of killing it. Why was pork singled out?
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If the curing is done properly, it is quite effective. And your post fails to explain why cured ham is very frequently eaten uncooked in southern Europe, with little to no problem of trichinosis. Basically as long as you use enough salt and cure them for long enough, it isn't an issue.
A description of acceptable curing processes for ham by the USDA is described here.
Bear in mind that if these were ineffective, trichinosis would be rampant in the US, and even moreso in Southern Europe where cured ham is far more common.
no excuse.
At the same time of the events you mention, Arabs were showering daily and doing other things for their health out of knowledge. not because someone choose to concentrate power and scary the rest out.
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So, it was stupid then and it's even more stupid now.
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So grandparent post is right. all events are equally stupid
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Orgone == !eating pork in the past because of religion == !eating pork now because of religion == eating and drinking the symbolic flesh and blood of christ == burning big crosses.
> but fail to see you yourself are a devote of the Church of Science
LOL
If Glastonbury shopkeepers can really hear the noise from Worthy Down, which is at Pilton, then I'm impressed. Especially if they can hear it above their own continuous whining.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Announce that you're turning off the network in response to public demand. Leave it on. Wait for hippies to declare that things are much better now and WiFi is a health risk. Announce that the network was never turned off to begin with.
Now we can tell anyone who feels their chakra's are being interfered with by GSM antennas that all of their problems will be resolved through the installation of ... whatsit ... ah yes ... Orgone generators! Brilliant. Problem solved.
My office has several microwave links, and I have seen birds perched on the feedhorn of an open grid parabolic antenna for several minutes without dropping dead. Granted, that is not the center of the beam. Maybe their feet are just cold.
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Hmmm. I wonder if they could build a device that captures there microwaves, focuses them, and slow-cooks some pot-brownies or something of the like. If I build it in a pyramid shape I bet I now know who my target audience would be...
Admittedly, this makes a lot of sense. An imaginary treatment for an imaginary problem. Eggg-celent.
Bring in Cartman to fix the situation.
The hippies clained that the wi-fi network caused "headaches, dizziness, nausea, severe tiredness, brain fog, disorientation, loss of balance, inability to concentrate, loss of creativity." Coincidentally the wi-fi became active at the same time as the local harvest of Glastonberry Green. Should we blame the wi-fi??
But what if the radiation of their chakra's interferes with my wifi network?
if your pants fit well, it's not only because of the pants
I guess this means that Sol is raping everyone on Earth with it's neutrino flux.
There is no "-1 offended" or "-1 you don't agree with me" mod options for a reason.
Their health problems are probably associated with old age.
The US government have made it clear that we have no inalienable rights; any we do not defend vigorously will be taken.
"headaches, dizziness, nausea, severe tiredness, brain fog, disorientation and loss of appetite, loss of balance, inability to concentrate, loss of creativity"
Sounds like they have all the symptoms of smoking way too much pot.
There is no "-1 offended" or "-1 you don't agree with me" mod options for a reason.
Modern knowledge was not required.
Thog eats pig.
Thog dies from horrible disease
Og eats pig
Og dies from horrible disease
Mog notices the pattern, doesn't eat pig. Doesn't die. Doesn't know why eating pig is fatal, and really doesn't care. Adds "Don't eat pig" to dogma.
Everything was not dangerous. Cooking meat made it last for a significant amount of time. In addition basic preservation methods (smoking, drying, salting, etc.) were already known.
What made pork dangerous is the preservation methods of the day did not protect against a specific parasite.
If there is a significant market niche who believe that WiFi generates negative energy and that one can convert this into positive energy by means of an "orgone generator", someone could make some money by selling WiFi base stations with built-in orgone generators. Just buy a bunch of generic Netgear boxes, case-mod them to look vaguely mystical, using a lot of crystal and gold leaf and such in the process, and sell them at a steep markup. Presto; hippies have good, life-affirming orgone-enhanced WiFi, and you have their money. Everyone's a winner.
The bread and the wine really are changed by God the Holy Spirit into the body and blood of Christ. (1 Cor. 10-11) We aren't told the means. It could be a conferral of identity, or something like quantum entanglement. It isn't "capernetic" What this has to do with wifi, I fail to see.
Yes, these are certainly morons and are they really serious? Do they think that these are the first radio waves they have been exposed to? They never complained while thier bodies were constantly bombarded with tv/radio/cellphone/cordless phone/military radar/space background radiation etc. ( not to mention all the pot & shrooms) but as soon as a wireless network fires up they all become walking antennae?
Keep passing the open windows...
It is obnoxious to make your posts in monospaced fonts just to make them stand out. If you really prefer these fonts, just use lynx/links and just leave us to go our own way.
I think we'd all be better off if we'd ...
Nuke the hippies!!
Its hard to find the right situation to say that.
Orgone == !eating pork in the past because of religion == !eating pork now because of religion == eating and drinking the symbolic flesh and blood of christ == burning big crosses.
Uhm, what? I get that you find religious beliefs that you don't share to be "stupid", but how is systematic terrorism (burning crosses) aimed at political ends even in the same category? Or do you just lump every human behavior you disagree with into one large category?
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I still have mine, so I'll be fine
What about the people who CAN'T get vaccines? Like newborns, people alergic to eggs, had a reaction in the past, have a supressed immune system due to disease or drugs for a transplant?
Another point would be that vaccines, depending on the vaccine, are only 90-99% effective. Some people's immune systems either don't learn, or don't keep the antibodies. I have an aunt like that. You can vaccinate her against chicken pox all you like, 3 months later or so and she'll be vulnerable to it again.
Herd immunity is still a good thing.
I don't read AC A human right
It is just Fox News who qualify them of "hippies". I think there are lots of people who are scared of technologies. And "being hippie" has never been to do with being against new technologies. Anyway, everybody is against technology when it does not profit them. You need to make people make money from it. Install a nuclear power plant that will employ everybody in this village, the project will better welcome than a wifi network.
I like the text of the petition though, it sounds so much like monoxide dihydrogen. They did not get much from being talked about in the news. 72 signatures?
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Drats! They've discovered my evil plan!
First, a correction of something I mis-spoke of: the prohibition against cloven-footed animals is actually a prohibition against eating non-cloven-footed animals. Though cloven-footed, pigs are left out because they fail the other requirement of being a ruminant (cud chewing). I really ought to have paid much more attention to what I was writing at 1:00 in the morning! I'm sorry for my mis-information.
Now to to reply to your points:
Religious rules or conventions comes about for a variety of reasons. Many have more to do with social control than anything else. However, most have a reasonable beginning to them. Rules prohibiting sibling marriage/breeding are a prime example. Without understanding any genetics, it was easy to see that too much of this led to problems. Often, this idea was seen clearly enough that people were required to marry outside their entire group. Food-borne illnesses are no exception here. While I have been corrected many times over on the source of trichinosis (thank you for enlightening me! again, I should have done better and writing so late was a bad idea.), the idea that a given food item that is not inherently poisonous getting banned for health reasons stands. Though most don't get sick from it, enough do that it is decided to not allow it. No scientific study needed. No need to examine large populations or do double-blind studies. As to your guess at the real reason for the ban on pork, you managed to hit on one of the few ideas not in the list of theories for its existence! Many theories abound, each with some support, and the health reason is one of them.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis#Epidemiology) Yes, this idea, as with many of the theories for pork and other religious food laws, is controversial. Also like the other frequently competing theories on religious food laws, it is supported by solid reasoning. It had adherents as far back as the 12th century, including Maimonides, a great Jewish thinker. See his books "The Guide for the Perplexed." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guide_for_the_Perplexed) A competing theory is economic:
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashrut#Mundane_socio-economic_concerns_.28specific_to_the_pig_taboo.29) As with the health-code theory, this economic reasoning no longer holds true in most parts of the world, but (if this is the reason) was true at the time.
I knew as I wrote the part about access to science that I should take the time to explain what I meant! So now I'll clarify... Yes, in modern times, Jews, Muslims, etc. all have access to science and scientific reasoning. It is also true that science is rarely used to overturn dogma, religious or otherwise. However, at the time of the creation of the principal that became the religious rule, the explanatory science did not exist and the principal became codified into the religion to preserve it for future generations. It is extremely rare for a
I hope this comment is well received... I could have moderated instead!
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Prove a Chakra exists, then we will talk.
Woo Woo...all aboard the made up shit train.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
How long would it take to hard-hack a WiFi AP to look like a GoodVibes (tm) device? Two birds, one stone, so to speak.
Here will be an old abusing of God's patience and the king's English.
How about a local "harvest" of Soylent Green? Then the hippie problem will be solved.
My grandmother works as a interviewer/poll person, she goes door to door asking people if they would do a market research poll. She found a group of ultra conservative religious people, sort of like mormons or something, where the women are not allowed to do basically anything, and theirs a "leader" who censors magazines, cutting out articles, pictures, headlines he doesn't think are suitable for his flock, crazy. How do these people feel about radio waves whizzing through their bodies at the speed of sound? Even if they don't use radios etc because "that Eminem chap swears", the actual transmission zaps through them regardless!
Imagine if we DO find out these radio waves are bad for our bodies in the future, these people who lived in "third world conditions" end up having cancer/whatever from our signals. Is that fair? Do these people have to wear Farraday Cage Burka everywhere because you want to talk on your cellphone to your girlf....mum?
Lets just hope the Leader keeps censoring stories about Radio Frequencies for fear that these cults rise up in some sort of christian Jihad against our invisible death ray beams.
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people forget that the reason pork was fatty was because it was raised to be fatty. the lard harvested from pigs was used year round on the farm now they raise them lean because of our half hearted health craze, and because the farms are corporate, no farmer to use all that lard year round.
also pork is healthier because pigs aren't fed meat scraps anymore, which has helped reduce the chance of getting trichinosis from undercooked pork. i wouldn't make a habit of risking it though.
With so many people claiming sickness from wifi we really need some blind studies.
Take a group of people far into the wilderness with some wifi equipment. Leave them out there for a few days and don't tell them if they equipment is on or off.
Ask them if they have any headaches or other BS they are claiming. I am willing to bet, in a blind study you will find out that the claims are ridiculous.
*IF* after a few studies they find it to be true then I would agree with it until then I call BS and ask them to STFU already. :)
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This would be an example of one of the many New Age gimmicks which serves primarily to make people stop thinking.
In the box of non-orthodox stuff, there's a fairly stark difference between wishful silliness and truthful ideas. For some reason, people have trouble differentiating between the two. I don't get why. Some things just have that "air of lame", and when you look into them, (as I did with the orogone thing) you find out that, yes, they are indeed lame ducks.
But that shouldn't make people from turn off. It's the old logical fallacy: "All cows are animals, therefore all animals are cows."
Or lame ducks.
Some ducks can fly.
But you won't know which ones unless you do some exploring!
After all, learning is fun, and who wants to do as they're told all the time anyway? People are always telling us what is right and wrong to believe and they enforce it with social pressure. Social pressure is for the birds. The lame ones.
-FL
LOL
The idiots who spent their time getting blazed out of their minds are NOT who we have to thank for modern science. You are *kidding* yourself.
Perhaps he just has a lot of faith in his powers of suggestion.
More likely he just did a little too much acid at Woodstock.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
Sure, those things you mention are part of the popular impression of hippies, but not mine. I tend to thing of them more in terms of the actual dictionary definition, for example. I.e. mostly just anti-establishment, not so much pro-anything.
So, no, it would not be ironic if they were harmful to your health, merely a coincidence, if not an expected result.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Just as a heads up to whichever genius designs the Idiotpart of slashdot, it's impossible to read in IE7 (at work!) as the nesting keeps squeezing comments into thinne and thinner columns until you end up with one letter per line...
Another reason not to bother with Idle.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Awesome! And maybe we can sell excess positive energy back to the utilities to lower our monthly bill! I'm going out to Home Depot and getting me one of those organ generator thingies tomorrow morning!
This blog is for "nerds" as it says right, so i assume that the hippie hate comes from nonhippie-nerds? I guess nerds need to reflect the abuse they received in school onto hippies. I don't claim to be either, but I don't dis either anyhow. Here is an awesome article on Psychic Warfare that actually offers evidence of EMFs affecting pyschic abilities. http://www.brainsturbator.com/articles/psychic_warfare_from_1981_2008/ read that and then tell me that the "hippies are just stoned out of their minds and not in touch with reality." Seriously, being sensitive to the world is not a flaw, but a gateway towards superpowers. heard of a faraday cage? "When you're inside [a Faraday cage], a psychic, for example, has their performance increased by a thousand fold. A Faraday cage shields you from the electromagnetic radio waves, allowing only extremely low frequency (E.L.F.) magnetic waves to get through. I don't think there's a psychic warfare research lab that doesn't make use of them today." --Andrija Puharich, random online interview
That's not what I said. I was looking for documented instances of anyone actually cooking their guts, as described in some urban legends.
I used to regularly get safety bulletins warning employees not to wear contacts while doing electrical work or carry disposable butane lighters while arc welding. The contacts would get stuck to your eyeball and a butane lighter could explode with the force of a quarter-stick of dynamite. All bullshit, but many people, including safety managers, believed it.
I'm not going to stand in front of a high-power RF emitter. I'd rather be safe then sorry, and I've worked around systems that combined multi-kilowatt transmitters with very high-gain antennas. I'd rather not get premature cataracts or some other injury. I don't worry about cell phones or VHF/UHF hand-held radios, which can often put out 5+ Watts on their high power setting. The only injury that I've seen real documentation on for hand-held radios is the accidental firing of electrical blasting caps that were carried next to a radio that was accidentally switched into transmit mode.
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...a Fox News story? To Slashdot? Really?
... the usage and theory of chakra's is familiar for me. And still, even I, had a good laugh from this. I've encountered more morons in the alternative religions and therapies then I can count...
Seriously, the theory is nice, as long as you can keep your reality check mechanism going. But alas, most of them are far off.
It's NOT a coincidence that people like these shout that Wifi's, DECT's, power lines, etc. hurt their 'inner self', but most of them just talk about it to *sell* an object like the one in the picture with the fine article.
It's nice to see how much they shout about these negative waves hurting your, but in the same breath they also mention that they happen to have a special device to make it all go away... for the minimum price of half a month's salary.
*sigh*
It will never stop. The only enlightment that MOST of those people achieve is making your wallet lighter.
I dare say that I try to practice it all honestly. If somebody has a headache, I advise them to seek a doctor, if they hear somebody talking in their head, I direct them to a psychologist. I don't start working on chakra's, advice to drink 'healing' water or tell them to meditate daily half an hour before the sun sets.
There are a lot of coocoo-heads. Too much, if you ask me.
I give massages and reiki treatments (for real!). More info here: http://www.universele-levensenergie.be
...these symptoms: "headaches, dizziness, nausea, severe tiredness, brain fog, disorientation and loss of appetite, loss of balance, inability to concentrate, loss of creativity" It's affecting me here in SoCal! Brain fog; good line, that!
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...neutrino oscillation.
...Lorenzo / I'm into kinky crustaceans. I just discovered internet praWn.
...of the nasty pre-cancerous crappy spots that my dermatologist keeps removing from the skin covering my chakras.
...Lorenzo / I'm into kinky crustaceans. I just discovered internet praWn.
But why is it specifically wifi, and not cordless phones (that use the same frequency), cell phones, radio/tv stations, baby monitors. The radios used for taxis and emergency services. CB radios in transport trucks.
That's the part I don't understand. Why is wifi a problem for people when none of these other things are?