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Internet Communications While At Sea?

ubergamer1337 writes "Next semester I will be participating in a college study abroad program known as Semester at Sea. The gist of it is that over four months 600ish students sail around the world on a converted cruise ship, visiting diverse port cities while taking classes when we are between ports. Debates about its educational merit aside, my internet options while I will be at sea will be severely limited. We get just 100 minutes of internet access for the entire voyage, and once thats gone the only internet access we have is a university email address, which is limited to messages under a megabyte with no attachments. I have been pondering different ways to staying in contact with friends and family back at home without running to an internet cafe in every port, and I have already decided that I want to set up a blog that can be updated by email, but I wanted to ask the collective wisdom of Slashdot if anyone knows of any other ways to transmit more then just your standard message through email. Some things I would be particularity interested in being able to figure out would be a way to send photos (encode them as text?), and a way to get Wikipedia pages etc. emailed to me."

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  1. how do they calculate the time? by mnslinky · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That works out to 55.5 seconds, roughly, per day. Do they calculate the time you use the computer hooked to the internet, or do they calculate the time actually used to transmit and receive data?

    1. Re:how do they calculate the time? by Askmum · · Score: 1

      600 students all having 100 minutes in 180 days gives an average of 5,5 hours of internet each day.

      Just bundle them together, set up some kind of wifi and have open internet from 5 pm until 10:30 pm.

  2. Sounds like fun by ballwall · · Score: 5, Informative

    My wife and I love cruising, but she runs her own business and can't be away from email for that amount of time. Thankfully there are options now :)

    Most ships these days have cell towers on the ship connected by satellite that usually provide GPRS data (and it looks like the SAS one does as well). The problem is they're considered international roaming, which costs tons of money. However, T-Mobile has an unlimited international 'email' option for blackberry for $20/mo that we've discovered includes BIS traffic through the web browser and even tethering (though we've heard conflicting reports about tethering, we've never been charged for it while at sea). There's always Mobi-shark for routing laptop traffic through the BIS, if tethering is a problem.

    So we either tether to her laptop, or just use blackberry and a wireless keyboard and end up with a reasonable means of staying connected (granted, at dial-up speeds). Of course there's also the expense of the blackberry and monthtly plan, but that's only going to add ~2% to the cost of the semester.

    There's also the option of paying for the wifi access on a per-minute basis. The latency sucks, but if you're using a fat email client (thunderbird, etc) it only takes us 1-3 minutes to sign in, send and receive messages, and sign out. On commercial cruises they charge somewhere around $.50/min, so when there's cabin based wifi we generally opt for that route, since it's way less hassle than the cell option, we don't have to worry about T-Mobile changing their policies on what's included, and $1.50 a day is not a huge price to pay relative to the cruise.

    If they're limiting your email to text based only with no attachments, it's probably at their computers (since I'm not sure how they'd restrict you to that on theirs), which means your options for doing funky encoding stuff to get around it will likely be limited. If not, and you can use your own computer, there are tons of ways to convert anything to text (after all, that's what your email client has to do to send attachments, too). The downside is the receiving end would have to be smart enough to know what you're sending.

    For wikipedia, I'd say take a copy with you.

    1. Re:Sounds like fun by paazin · · Score: 1

      For smaller boats there's the option of getting a marine radio modem. It's crappy baud and also a huge investment - probably not worth mentioning for this poster, but, still, an option

      Ex: http://www.marinenet.net/Radio%20Modems.htm

    2. Re:Sounds like fun by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      SOAP over e-mail with MIME64 encoded messaging should work fine...
      Packet sequence can be in the SOAP header and the front end should be able to break messages into 512K chunks. Also in the SOAP request can be a CRC32 for validation.
      ACKs can be batched together so you know which packets have arrived, and which have been corrupted, then resend the missing, and corrupt packets.
      -nB

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    3. Re:Sounds like fun by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not to mention IP over DNS. They may block him on wifi after his 100 minutes, but he can get a slow connection this way.

      http://thomer.com/howtos/nstx.html

    4. Re:Sounds like fun by cj1127 · · Score: 5, Funny

      My wife and I love cruising

      Wrong forum, buddy

    5. Re:Sounds like fun by blueZ3 · · Score: 1

      Lynx, FTW!

      Seriously, the guy has essentially unlimited email (sans attachments) and is worried about surfing. Unless he's looking for pron as opposed to info, Lynx is sufficient for most uses (ASCII porn?) and pretty speedy.

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    6. Re:Sounds like fun by gnomeza · · Score: 1

      And Iodine too.

    7. Re:Sounds like fun by fermion · · Score: 1
      I largely agree with this post. There are simple methods to get email. Clearly, the 100 minutes is there to allow students to get and send email once a day. There is unlikely any hope for the kind of constant on connection many students are now used to for the immediate gratification of causal internet browsing. Accept and deal with internet withdrawal. I sympathize. When I go on trips, though everything is fascinating, I miss not being to look up little factoids.

      I suspect there will be little happening at sea. Probably the time one might need access is in port. Therefore I think the smartphone suggestion is good. The international plans are 50-200 a month. This would allow you to explore the area while on land, and save you minutes for when you are at sea.

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    8. Re:Sounds like fun by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      I thought sea-mester was on tall ships, not the leviathan floating cities Royal McCarnival Caribbean wants you to think is a nautical experience.

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    9. Re:Sounds like fun by Informative · · Score: 1

      w3m is really good (as opposed to lynx or links).

    10. Re:Sounds like fun by ubergamer1337 · · Score: 1

      sea-mester (or sea semester) is a tall ship program for oceanographers and marine biologists, so learning to function on a ship is important. I'm a histroy major, and the focus of Semester at Sea is really on the ports, so becoming a sailor isn't really the point.

    11. Re:Sounds like fun by darinfp · · Score: 1

      Aaarrrgh.. we be getting new swedish history majors at the next port....

      they be all 6'2" males....

      aaarrrgh... best be getting me incontinence pads sorted....

      Aaarrrhhh...

    12. Re:Sounds like fun by magarity · · Score: 1

      I thought sea-mester was on tall ships
       
      600 students crammed into even the largest tall ship would be hell. Forget time for internet browsing; I'd be more concerned finding a private space big enough to pee.

    13. Re:Sounds like fun by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I can't see why a History major would be interested in experiencing a sailor's life on an actual sailing ship.

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    14. Re:Sounds like fun by gregwbrooks · · Score: 1
      My wife and I cruise 1-2 times a year and, like the parent poster, we own our own business -- being 100% disconnected is not an option.

      In addition to what the parent post stated, I've noticed that the larger ships have RJ-45 jacks in the walls, some of them in isolated spots where no one's really going to see you if you jack in.

      Because they're there for things like photo-sales kiosks, etc., I'm gonna take a guess and say the network is DHCP enabled. Does that mean internet access-enabled? Dunno - but I'm on a ship in northern Europe for a dozen days in May, and plan to find out.

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  3. RMS by hansamurai · · Score: 4, Informative

    Surf the RMS way: set up some kind of server at home that you can email a link to and it will wget it and return the content back to you via email. Since you have seemingly unlimited email access, this might be the most efficient way to surf.

    You can also encode images into base64, don't know how big an image it would take before you hit the 1MB limit, but it's possible.

    1. Re:RMS by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      Well, there's no reason he can't do both. If he's going to at sea for a week at a time between ports, why not have the article you want emailed to you right then? I'd rather do more interesting stuff when docked, like actually explore the city we're at. Save the internet stuff for the boring boat ride, in my opinion.

    2. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      My advice is to trade internet access for sex. These horny college-age girls will do anything for another hit off Facebook.

    3. Re:RMS by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      Also, learn to use google sms (they probably have an email address you can use, or you could find one that translates email into sms)
      http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/mobile/default/sms.html

    4. Re:RMS by colmore · · Score: 1

      If he really is going on this ridiculous rich-kid cruise semester, I hope he'll be able to get some without resorting to prostitution. It's about half the point.

      Bring a little dvd player for your room (or maybe they already have them) and some popular with the college kids shows and movies on DVD. Let one of the shows / movies come up in conversation. "Oh I have that back in my room."

      These are really very good times for nerds having sex. Do you own Guitar Hero?

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    5. Re:RMS by Rei · · Score: 2, Informative

      For those who aren't familiar with how to encode to base64:

      # cat /bin/echo | openssl enc -base64 > encoded_echo
      # tail -n 1 encoded_echo
      AAAAAJhHAAAZAQAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAA==
      # cat encoded_echo | openssl enc -base64 -d > decoded_echo
      # chmod +x decoded_echo
      # ./decoded_echo Test
      Test

      That would be an interesting concept, though -- "email tunnel" -- where you set up a local proxy and it communicates with your backend via email. Http tunnel software could be a good starting point for implementation.

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    6. Re:RMS by morgauo · · Score: 1

      Then he wouldn't need the internet. That would defeat the whole purpose of this thread!

    7. Re:RMS by JLDohm · · Score: 1

      Just be sure that the show/movie comes up in conversation with someone of the appropriate sex. Otherwise you could end up being bro-raped

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    8. Re:RMS by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can't find "cat/bin/echo.exe"

      Also, you have some of your slashes wrong. They should be "/", not "|".

    9. Re:RMS by dsieburgh · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bad Idea. STD's run rampant on Semester at Sea ships.

    10. Re:RMS by Rei · · Score: 1

      You left out a space, and no, I don't.

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    11. Re:RMS by GravityStar · · Score: 1

      Isn't it always good to be having sex, regardless if you are a nerd or not?

    12. Re:RMS by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately for him, the RMS way fails hard on Facebook or other AJAX websites. What he needs to do is a bait-and-switch: tell them they can access websites, but that sex is required first. Then let them in on the reality of web-to-email gateways.

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    13. Re:RMS by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1, Informative

      Ethanol, it looks like you're trying to run that command in Cygwin, and that you don't know about the pipe operator "|". For instance, the command "cat encoded_echo" prints the file "encoded_echo" to standard out (i.e. it will show up in the terminal window), and the "|" character after it causes that text to be routed to the input of the "openssl enc -base64 -d" command (which specifies to decode the input from base64 to a byte stream and display it on standard out). "> decoded_echo" instructs the shell to send the output of the openssl command to a new file instead, named "decoded_echo".

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    14. Re:RMS by bhsx · · Score: 1

      You can definately setup (http://www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access-via-email/) your own to do it. Or you can use a "commercial" site that already has this configured and ready to go. Check web2mail.com or www4mail.org for more details and instructions. It's simple.

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    15. Re:RMS by Aram+Fingal · · Score: 1

      Right, and if the 1 MB limit per email is too small for a particular request, you could tie in some of the advanced technologies, such as PAR, which were originally invented to circumvent similar difficulties in transmitting ridiculous quantities p0rn over usenet in spite of small message size limits.

    16. Re:RMS by joggle · · Score: 1

      One interesting piece of trivia is all binary attachments to e-mails are already base-64 encoded. So this guy is trying to effectively take out the little bit of data between the body of the message and the attachment.

      My guess is that the number of characters of each e-mail is limited too so this method probably won't work. Worth a shot I suppose.

    17. Re:RMS by Byzantine · · Score: 1

      RAWDOG (RSS Aggregator Without Delusions of Grandeur) springs to mind—it's a Python script that is quite content to run as a cron job.

    18. Re:RMS by LowSeven · · Score: 1

      Yep, that got a laugh out of me too.

    19. Re:RMS by pythonhacker · · Score: 1

      Or just use Freenet.
      You can be sure that just like you, your data is also at sea.

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    20. Re:RMS by sootman · · Score: 1

      You can also encode images into base64, don't know how big an image it would take before you hit the 1MB limit, but it's possible.

      Reminds me of one of my favorite old geeky jokes:

      Newbie: How do I open this attachment?
      Admin: You uudecode it.
      Newbie: I I I decode it?

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  4. In port... by bwcbwc · · Score: 1

    Assuming that at least half of the places you visit will be fairly modern cities, you should take advantage of the opportunities for internet access while you are in port. Investigate places that offer free or low-cost WiFi service in the ports you'll be visiting. That will at least mitigate the low access levels you are limited to on board ship.

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    1. Re:In port... by bwcbwc · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that probably means running to an internet cafe or else incurring international roaming charges on a cellphone.

      I'm surprised they don't give you the opportunity to pay extra for additional access rather than just cutting you off.

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    2. Re:In port... by ballwall · · Score: 4, Informative

      Speaking from experience, we hated going this route. You end up spending all of your time in ports searching for internet, which is really the last thing you want to be doing in some exotic foreign city :)

      Plus, we've discovered that it's nearly impossible to research ahead of time, the language barriers alone make googling for it really hard.

    3. Re:In port... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe it's some sort of strategy. They want the students to like see the world rather than sitting in their cabins in underweat with the curtains shut trolling slashdot and IMing each other about how bored they are.

      Or something.

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    4. Re:In port... by lastchance_000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      jiwire.com

    5. Re:In port... by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      In what port city could you not find a net cafe, coin-op PC, or cafe with wifi hotspot within 10 minutes of getting through customs? I've been to a hundred or more ports, from Hong Kong to Dakar, and this has absolutely never posed a problem for me since at least 10 years ago.

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    6. Re:In port... by mapsjanhere · · Score: 1

      What, no one to set up a little wireless peer to peer network and run an IRC server? 300 guys should have enough porn on their laptops to swap to make the most boring cruise palatable.

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  5. Missing the point? by Some+guy+named+Chris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't the point of something like "Semester at Sea" to immerse yourself in the program, and become involved deeply in the studies and the people you're traveling with?

    What you're wanting to do is like ordering escargot in a French restaurant and smothering them in ketchup.

    1. Re:Missing the point? by camperdave · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with putting ketchup on escargot? (apart from ruining perfectly good ketchup, that is)

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    2. Re:Missing the point? by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      I hardly think wanting to check in on the computer for a few minutes at a time is going to destroy this supposedly life changing experience. He doesn't sound like he wants to be tied to his computer 24/7 during the trip, but rather just have the ability to checkup on the outside world a bit.

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    3. Re:Missing the point? by fm6 · · Score: 1

      I don't see how exchanging a few emails every day makes the experience less immersive. He's a student, not a Monk.

    4. Re:Missing the point? by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 1

      Seems you are on the wrong portal. This is Slashdot and I suppose most people here thing of Internet access like breathing air. Of course the abroad version is a bit tricky. The technical means to connect from a ship are mostly beyond student levels.

      If the EMail option is enough for you, then you can of course set up a server somewhere (rent a virtual one with root access, would not set up one at home for so long with no supervision, also you are owned if it goes down). Then you can script an interpreter and connect it with Postfix or what ever you prefer.

      It would check for a valid signature and execute the commands it reads form the data section of the email. You can also encode the pictures, binary data or whatever in Base64 and send it as text.

      Pictures with jpeg compression for a blog like presentation should be well under the traffic limit too (read: you could transmit at least 2 dozen of them with one transmission). I personally would probably write the message, compress it (at least the text part, jpeg is pointless), encrypt everything and then send it as inline Base64 text with a valid signature.

      Then you would have to set up some routines on the server to send it to a bogging service, but there is plenty of code / apps for that one.

      Now I realize that you probably want to know if this kind of thing is doable in a point and click fashion. I actually don't know of any particular instance, but there is Google, so give it a try.

    5. Re:Missing the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Haha, yeah, those whacky French will eat anything that isn't fast enough to escape, won't they? Unlike us civilized folks here in America.

      Oh, BTW, could you pass me the clam chowder, please?

    6. Re:Missing the point? by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. My wife and I go on motorcycle trips and we never take a laptop or surf the internet while we are gone. I do carry a cell phone if someone has to get hold of me.

      It amazes me the addiction people have to the internet, myself included. The first thing I do when I get home from work is check my personal email (I work for a company that doesn't allow personal email at work for SEC reasons). Yet 99% of the time it's something that could wait for a couple more hours.

      My friends will send me emails, and if I don't get back to them in a couple of hours, will call me to see if I got their email. Which was just a simple question that if I took a couple of days to answer wouldn't have been a big deal.

      Drop off the face of the earth while at sea. When you get back, you will have tons of stories to tell about your adventure. Do it in person over beer or coffee. Repeat the same stories over and over again until you are sick of telling them.

      Save your internet time for making sure your bills are getting paid.

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    7. Re:Missing the point? by CoverStory · · Score: 1

      is like ordering escargot in a French restaurant and smothering them in ketchup.

      After which the chef comes out of the kitchen to yell at you, so you pay your bill and leave, but you payed using the fake french money you got from the shady guy in front of the American Express office and you get arrested by the French police but no one at the police station speaks french and you have to get Ricky to translate from Lucy's english to Spanish so the drunk guy can translate Ricky's Spanish into German so the police officer can translate German into French for the police captain...

    8. Re:Missing the point? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Isn't the point of something like "Semester at Sea" to immerse yourself in the program, and become involved deeply in the studies and the people you're traveling with?

      What you're wanting to do is like ordering escargot in a French restaurant and smothering them in ketchup.

      He wants a little email, not to jack into the Matrix.

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    9. Re:Missing the point? by Xest · · Score: 1

      The analogy failed on me because I saw smothering escargot in ketchup as a positive thing :(

    10. Re:Missing the point? by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      Speak for yourself. I'm clearly much less addicted than you. Checking email is only the second thing I do when I get home from work, the first is sit down in my comfy chair.

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    11. Re:Missing the point? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Haha, yeah, those whacky French will eat anything that isn't fast enough to escape, won't they? Unlike us civilized folks here in America."

      LOL...well, speak for yourself. One of the reasons I love LA, is these people down here will eat anything that doesn't eat them first....and make it taste good!!

      Can someone pass me another tray of crawfish?? Any more boudin left?

      (Then again...the cajuns DID come from the Arcadians, which were French like.)

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    12. Re:Missing the point? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Speak for yourself. I'm clearly much less addicted than you. Checking email is only the second thing I do when I get home from work, the first is sit down in my comfy chair."

      What? You don't have a TV or liquor cabinet???

      :)

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    13. Re:Missing the point? by rnelsonee · · Score: 1

      I understand your point, but I've had to go a week or two with limited internet at sea (I'm a Navy contractor), and can attest that without the familiar communication with your friends, your quality of life suffers a little.

      Immersion is great, but even prison inmates average more than a minute a day of communication with their family.

      And, to be on-topic, compose your emails on a laptop and save it to a thumb drive so you have time to compose. And use GMail, because your normal host will invariably go down.

    14. Re:Missing the point? by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      "the first is sit down in my comfy chair."

      What is this - the Spanish Inquisition?

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    15. Re:Missing the point? by JynXed · · Score: 1

      Isn't the point of something like "Semester at Sea" to immerse yourself in the program, and become involved deeply in the studies and the people you're traveling with?

      What you're wanting to do is like ordering escargot in a French restaurant and smothering them in ketchup.

      So you're advocating not keeping in touch with friends and family via e-mail?

      Or what about checking the wikipedia page for the city you're about to dock into? Perhaps a safety-traveling guide for the region?

      I appreciate immersion as much as the other, but you're looking at "the internet" as being a form of escape from reality, which isn't true. A lot of times it can simply be a compliment to your reality, much like garlic or parsley can compliment escargot.

    16. Re:Missing the point? by Binkleyz · · Score: 1

      The first thing I do when I get home from work is check my personal email (I work for a company that doesn't allow personal email at work for SEC reasons).

      That's why they invented the Crackberry.. I work for the "Big Evil Bank of Doom (tm)", and they took away our outside email and chat (for much the same reason as yours did, I assume..) a few years ago.. My reaction was to get a BB.

      But the, I guess I'm missing the point, which WAS the subject of the GP.

    17. Re:Missing the point? by KZigurs · · Score: 1

      Well, French girls smothered in ketchup sounds just about right. But what if there is shortage of the significant sex on the ship? You just can't go without 4chan, you know...

    18. Re:Missing the point? by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

      One of the reasons I love LA, is these people down here will eat anything that doesn't eat them first....and make it taste good!!

      Kids. Sigh.

      Look. You carry a Swiss Army knife at all times. Not only will you be able to take shit apart and kindasorta put it back together, but you can kill what's trying to eat you first and eat it.

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    19. Re:Missing the point? by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Funny

      Isn't the point of something like "Semester at Sea" to immerse yourself in the program, and become involved deeply

      No, the point is to learn to avoid that at all cost.
      Quite literally ;-)

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    20. Re:Missing the point? by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      My chair has wheels.

      WHEELS baby!

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  6. Slow connections! by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Man. you're going to be SOL, my friend.

    Your problem of only 100(125 according to TFA) minutes for a 4-month cruise will be compounded by a super-slow internet connection, compounded further by the extra speed-lag of wireless. From the looks of things, your computers will be all windows and probably use IE as the browser, which means no ad or script blocking. The best thing to do in this case would be to bring plenty of analog reading material and other distractions(read: pr0n, booze, or dope) aboard the ship and hope that you get laid.

    The first thing you should do is wean yourself from constant gratification through the internet. When you do use the on-board internet, chances are that pages will load slow as hell so try to use "hypermiling" techniques like stopping the page load as soon as the link you want appears(don't wait for the whole page to load), then do that again and again until you get to the content you want. As far as the blog thing goes, use your free official E-mail addy to send plaintext to somebody else who will maintain your blog for you and send you plaintext wikipedia articles as desired, and do that as much as possible so that you can save your precious 125 minutes - It won't be a real-time thing, but that's one of the whole points of being at sea(or camping, for that matter). An alternate suggestion would be to do everything yourself onboard, then release it all at once when you hit shore. Either way, best of luck to you, because cruises are nowhere near as exciting as the commercials make them out to be ;)

    1. Re:Slow connections! by gardyloo · · Score: 5, Funny

      An alternate suggestion would be to do everything yourself onboard, then release it all at once when you hit shore.

      Ah, yes. The traditional way of sailors dealing with . . . things, since man first started traversing the waters.

    2. Re:Slow connections! by JLDohm · · Score: 1

      As far as the blog thing goes, use your free official E-mail addy to send plaintext to somebody else who will maintain your blog for you and send you plaintext wikipedia articles as desired, and do that as much as possible so that you can save your precious 125 minutes - It won't be a real-time thing, but that's one of the whole points of being at sea(or camping, for that matter).

      I have to second this, at least for Wikipedia. A person will do much better at getting you the correct article, and providing annotations as to any important illustrations or pictures. It shouldn't be difficult to update your blog by email, and I'm sure a google search could have turned up a plethora of suitable options.

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    3. Re:Slow connections! by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

      I theory cabin boys were there to do the washing and cleaning, but I suspect their duties went a bit further than that.

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    4. Re:Slow connections! by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes. The traditional way of sailors dealing with

      Rum, sodomy and the lash.

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    5. Re:Slow connections! by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      will be compounded by a super-slow internet connection, compounded further by the extra speed-lag of wireless.

      Probably not. If your internet connection is super-slow (or even only slowish), the latency in the wireless setup probably won't make any difference.

      An alternative might be mobile broadband, which may or may not be viable according to your provider's roaming charges, if a GPRS signal is avaolable on board. Some of my friends continually run into trouble with traffic limits on the mobile service, but I find having a ruthlessly comprehensive hosts file and running adblock/flashblock keeps me well within limits, even when using skype a lot (without video). Just goes to show how much of your bandwidth is being sucked up by adservers.

  7. Cut the cord by Mononoke · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Say goodbye to your friends/family when you depart. Tell them you will contact them in an emergency. Then stay off the computers and spend time creating relationships with others on the ship. You don't need constant contact with the folks back home. Don't use them as a crutch.

    Temporarily cutting off contact will be the best thing you ever do for yourself.

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    1. Re:Cut the cord by Fallingcow · · Score: 2, Informative

      Research every place you'll be beforehand and print out anything you think you might need.

      When I'm travelling the only thing I ever want from the 'net is info on the locales. When I'm well prepared I don't even want that.

    2. Re:Cut the cord by DentInYourHead · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Four months is a long time but not THAT long of a time. You'll survive without being constantly "connected" for four months and be able to immerse yourself in the program better than if you were worried about getting emails, blogging and receiving Wikipedia updates all the time. If you're so set on blogging and having pictures to share, write your thoughts down and save those pictures to be uploaded after you get back. Anyway, what's wrong with emails less than 1MB for updates? You can't describe things without a blog or pictures?

    3. Re:Cut the cord by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think that is the point of the 100 minutes of internet. Enough for some emergency communication, not for blogging and letting people know what you are doing every second.
      Drop the blog, no one cares anyway about the blog. And save it for a cram research of data, that emergency patch that you need on your laptop. Getting those baby pictures that come while you are out.

      There is life outside the internet.

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    4. Re:Cut the cord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      why don't you devote that time to figuring out how to get laid at sea

      The guy's username is "ubergamer1337". I don't rate his chances very highly.

    5. Re:Cut the cord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      I've cracked the crypto code he used in his AskSlashdot:

      I have been pondering different ways to (strike: staying in contact with friends and family back at home) surf for porn without running to an internet cafe in every port, and I have already decided that I want to set up a (strike: blog) USENET autofetcher that can be updated by email, but I wanted to ask the collective wisdom of Slashdot if anyone knows of any other ways to transmit (strike: more then just your standard message) high quality videos and images through email. Some things I would be particularity interested in being able to figure out would be a way to send photos (encode them as text?), and a way to get (strike: Wikipedia pages) AVIs, MPGs etc. emailed to me.

    6. Re:Cut the cord by residieu · · Score: 1

      If he's got email, he's got all he needs to stay in touch with friends and family.

    7. Re:Cut the cord by Xest · · Score: 2, Funny

      "There is life outside the internet."

      Unfortunately for most of us on Slashdot, that's simply not true ;)

    8. Re:Cut the cord by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      There is life outside the internet.

      But not as we know it.

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    9. Re:Cut the cord by geekmux · · Score: 1

      There is life outside the internet.

      Unfortunately, with each passing year, as more and more generations separate what life was like before broadband Internet and cellphones, people find that their ONLY life is on the Internet.

    10. Re:Cut the cord by isorox · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is life outside the internet.

      Citation needed

    11. Re:Cut the cord by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      Yeah, try and become a member of the mile-out club.

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    12. Re:Cut the cord by shaka999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess someone doesn't have a happy family life....

      You may not need constant contact but whats wrong with wanting it? Believe or not some people are close to the mother/father/brother/sister and want to share experiences with them.

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    13. Re:Cut the cord by powerlord · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I'd also suggest bringing at least two decks of playing cards and your favorite 3-8 player game or two (I'd recommend something like Fluxx. It takes a game to pick up, but its small (figure a double deck of playing cards), and is a fun game for 2-6 players and definitely falls in the "Beer and Pretzels" category.

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    14. Re:Cut the cord by leonbev · · Score: 1

      If he's not connected to the Internet 99% of the time that he's traveling, I doubt that he'll have any need for the latest security patch while he's gone. A driver update, maybe...

  8. Supposedly... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Supposedly Stallman doesn't surf the web - he sends an email with a URL and the email is returned with the page...

    You can also look into maximizing your 100 minutes - cache a lot, don't get images, don't get ads, etc. Maybe team up wtih a few other people, so common interests/needs can be cached instead of downloaded once for each of you.

    What about wireless access via PCMCIA card or cell phone? May work when closer to the coast, would certainly work in-port (depending on where you are in port of course). May even be able to make some $ off other students by setting up your own network, etc.

    And of course you could always social engineer someone elses time away from them for non-identifying use such as fark, slashdot, etc. Save your minutes for your educational needs :)

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    1. Re:Supposedly... by SlashDotDotDot · · Score: 1

      Supposedly Stallman doesn't surf the web - he sends an email with a URL and the email is returned with the page...

      Also, he sends the email using nothing but butterflies, which should work equally well from a cruise ship.

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  9. Limitations are in place for a reason by fprintf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did you consider that the limitations on Internet usage are in place for a reason? It may not be the bandwidth, it may be to force participants in this program to get away from their computers and interact with each other. The limits they place sound pretty reasonable to me.

    With that said, I'd say satellite is an option while at sea. Otherwise depending on where you go perhaps a tethered cell phone would do the trick. Expensive either way!

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    1. Re:Limitations are in place for a reason by hansamurai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It may be their intent, but this is Slashdot. He poses to us an intriguing and difficult problem and we solve it through various obtuse and technical solutions.

    2. Re:Limitations are in place for a reason by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          A friend of mine went on a 7 day cruise recently. She had to pay something outrageous, like $5/min to use their on-ship internet connection with their computers. She'd hop on for a few minutes, check her mail for serious problems, and send them over to me for handling. She knows her customers and an "urgent" issue may mean "do this sometime this month", or "do this in the next 20 minutes".

          I'd recommend if an Internet connection is that important. It may be more adventurous to find a cute girl on the cruise, and make your own entertainment. :)

          But, since your folks could shell out several thousand dollars for the cruise, then get them to shell out a few more bucks for an Iridium 9555. I don't know what pricing is on the service, but hey, if they can blow $5k so you can get drunk in 100 different ports around the world, they can afford a few more dollars for a phone so you can call home from the jail at those ports. :)

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    3. Re:Limitations are in place for a reason by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      He poses to us an intriguing and difficult problem and we solve it through various obtuse and technical solutions.

      God help him if he comes back in a month and asks for advice on getting laid ;)

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    4. Re:Limitations are in place for a reason by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      But, since your folks could shell out several thousand dollars for the cruise, then get them to shell out a few more bucks for an Iridium 9555 [iridium9555.com]. I don't know what pricing is on the service

      Yeah, I looked all over their website for pricing on the service and couldn't find it. It must be one of those "If you have to ask, you can't afford it" kind of things ;)

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    5. Re:Limitations are in place for a reason by nahdude812 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My buddy's daughter was on a Semester at Sea around a year ago. Sounds like a really fantastic experience overall.

      Her classmates' solution to this problem was not at all surprising, and remarkably effective. They got a hold of one of the professors' password. Within a few days the whole ship had unlimited access. There was ship-wide wifi, and normally you'd sign on to a web page that appeared before it granted you access. I guess the sign-on page wasn't encrypted, and it was trivial for students to pick up a new professor password whenever it was changed.

      Hopefully they've closed that gap since then, but you never know.

    6. Re:Limitations are in place for a reason by profplump · · Score: 1

      I don't know about their data plans, but voice actually isn't terrible. It's like $25/month + $1/min - $1.50/min depending on what size chunk you buy minutes. I mean, it's not cheap, but it's not absurd either.

    7. Re:Limitations are in place for a reason by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      It's like $25/month + $1/min - $1.50/min depending on what size chunk you buy minutes. I mean, it's not cheap, but it's not absurd either.

      That's actually cheaper than T-Mobile or AT&T's GSM roaming service. That's kinda cool. Is that price good worldwide or only in your country of origin?

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    8. Re:Limitations are in place for a reason by pythonhacker · · Score: 1

      I heard that professor was fired for trading his internet password for sexual favours from his female students.

      So, I don't think this option will work anymore...

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  10. Build a email to HTTP to email gateway. by fedcb22 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why not whip up some code that will wait for you to send an email to it containing some sort of pass code and a URL, then it fetches the page and all images, lzma and yEncs it, and then emails it back to you. It may not work so nicely with complicated sites, but for things like Wikipedia it would work great. I'm willing to bet however, that with enough effort you could write a fully fledged proxy. Latency may be really crap, but it would be undeniably cool. Also, have a look at programs such as http://code.kryo.se/iodine that allow you to run IPv4 over DNS.

  11. Unplug, get away by gatkinso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Screw your email.

    Sounds like heaven.

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    1. Re:Unplug, get away by KefabiMe · · Score: 4, Informative

      I fish commercially in Alaska during the summer. If you think being away from your email is heaven, then you haven't experienced the hell that is the high seas. You might have seen Deadliest Catch, but nothing can really explain the weeks of 1 or 2 hours of sleep a night (some days you won't even get that), the constant balancing act of having your sea vessel tossing and turning in 20 foot surf (you can't rest. Standing, sitting, eating, getting knocked to your feet, during every activity 24/7 your body's muscles are working HARD to keep balance.) Getting to shower once a week if you're lucky. Life at sea is hard. After a couple of months of this, every letter, every morsel of home is heaven. Last summer I was able to reach a WiFi point one single day much to my surprise. I managed to connect to AIM and get about a dozen messaged back and forth from my girlfriend before I got disconnected. THAT, my friend, is what heaven is on the high seas.

    2. Re:Unplug, get away by ktappe · · Score: 1

      Somebody mod parent up. 99.9% of us are conjecturing while this guy has actually been there.

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    3. Re:Unplug, get away by Ottair · · Score: 1

      Oh Jeebus, spare me the "lonely" fisherman bullshit and do what your ancestors did, drink like a maniac when you get to port or stay home in the first place.

  12. Cold Turkey? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know some guy who went without email access for a whole month. Mind you, he ate his own head.

    Still if you're not one of those types who defines himself by being "l33t" or a "gamer" you'll be ok.

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    1. Re:Cold Turkey? by blueZ3 · · Score: 1

      Mod parent funny.

      ubergamer1337 was the story submitter, for mods that missed it.

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    2. Re:Cold Turkey? by Vendetta · · Score: 1

      The guy asking the question calls himself "ubergamer1337". Draw your own conclusions.

  13. E-Mail? by athakur999 · · Score: 1

    So, you have unlimited access to email and yet you still don't how you're going to keep in touch in friends and family? Is e-mail "only for old people" now?

    If your concern is sending pictures back, a small JPG file should only be a few dozen KBs and will easily fit in your 1MB attachment limit. Keep the high resolution originals on your computer and promise your friends you'll send them the high resolution versions once you get back on shore.

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    1. Re:E-Mail? by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      I believe he said 1MB limit and no attachments.

      ... which is limited to messages under a megabyte with no attachments.

    2. Re:E-Mail? by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      Well, uuencode still exists, I'm sure. But quite honestly? Untether yourself. In years to come, you'll look back at this, the only time you've ever actually been off the grid, and weep with fond memory.

      Says me, who got out of working on New Years Day only by a trip to emergency. And I wouldn't have been surprised to have gotten a visit from a co-worker with questions. :-)

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  14. One of your only options for global coverage: by jstockdale · · Score: 1

    Iridium modems.

    Yes, it actually is good for something, albeit slow as old-school dialup.

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    1. Re:One of your only options for global coverage: by maxrate · · Score: 1

      I own an Iridium, it's horrible for this - I would not recommend it. For voice, it's great.

    2. Re:One of your only options for global coverage: by jandrese · · Score: 1

      Assuming you like paying $4/minute for coverage (assuming you can find some amazing cut-rate airtime broker). And when jstockdale says "old-school dialup", he doesn't mean "like having to use a modem instead of DSL", he means "you're not going to get the 2400 baud this thing advertises".

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    3. Re:One of your only options for global coverage: by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      was planning on using an iridium phone to blog the trip

      Just 'blog the trip' on a netbook, or a PDA with a folding keyboard, then upload the content to your blog when you get home.

    4. Re:One of your only options for global coverage: by jstockdale · · Score: 1

      2400 baud!?! You must be using the *new* Iridium modems :-)

      In my day we were happy with 600! And that was after walking 14 miles through the snow and cold to find a signal...

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  15. Message queuing by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's a ridiculously good point. Applications like Gallery 2 have remote applications that I'm sure can be tuned to your disconnected-mode needs. Simply get everything ready to upload before you login, then when you're online all the human slowness will be taken out of the equation.

    55.5 seconds per day doesn't seem like a lot, but if their internet connection is worth their (sea) salt even a 1mbit satellite link is almost 7 megabytes of data per day... assuming everyone else isn't doing the same thing at the same time of course.

    If you're really interested in the process, check out Message Queuing. The idea is asynchronous communication between client/server so that you can do stuff when disconnected from the network, and saving your precious "almost" minute per day :)

    -Matt

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    1. Re:Message queuing by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh come on, people have been using bottles in situations like this for ages and it worked out fine. If he's really starved for bandwidth he can just pop a thumbdrive in each one. I hear they come in 64MB flavour now.

      OTOH if he *really* can't stand being offline while out at sea, what he needs isn't a tech solution. What he needs is professional help. That comes in a lab coat.

      Or maybe he's just not ready to come out of the basement yet.

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    2. Re:Message queuing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's supposed to be for ed-you-ma-cay-shun. Being online is pretty much a requirement for education these days. I'm sure he'll have a whale of a time, but unless this boat has a huge library, I don't reckon there's much benefit in being at sea while studying.

      Please tell me you're not serious. Handy? Yes. Useful? Yes. Required? No. It's only my opinion, but the more I work with students the less critical thinking I run into. Perhaps being unplugged for more than two minutes might be useful.

      Flame away.

    3. Re:Message queuing by rastilin · · Score: 1

      Please tell me you're not serious. Handy? Yes. Useful? Yes. Required? No. It's only my opinion, but the more I work with students the less critical thinking I run into. Perhaps being unplugged for more than two minutes might be useful.

      Or maybe it won't. I suppose the only way to find out it to experiment on your class.

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    4. Re:Message queuing by Nathrael · · Score: 1

      I can't believe you posted this on Slashdot.

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    5. Re:Message queuing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Net connectivity is not to blame for the lessened critical thinking amongst your students. Their bad teacher, however, is.

    6. Re:Message queuing by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      It's supposed to be for ed-you-ma-cay-shun. Being online is pretty much a requirement for education these days.

      If "education" requires being online, then you're doing it wrong.

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    7. Re:Message queuing by algoa456 · · Score: 1, Informative

      No flaming - I concur. Now when you ask students a question they don't think about, but rather reach for Google for an answer. And the sadness is they usually dig up some half baked answer from one or other blog that they regurgitate - unable to assess the quality of the Google entry. The law of unintended consequences is that the Internet is damaging critical thinking. The fact this kid's access is limited may be intentional. Just so he can say hello mom and dad I'm fine. And force him or her to think about things under the stars.

    8. Re:Message queuing by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 1

      The experience of being offline is probably so rare and so novel for most people, I think it can lead to an ability to reflect and consider things at a pace of attention and thinking that is at risk of getting lost. I think there could be extraordinary benefits to studying at sea - the greatest of which is the cultivation of the ability to truly concentrate.

    9. Re:Message queuing by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2, Informative

      Having seen it myself, and seen it change over the years, I'll actually go with net connectivity as being responsible for a diminishing ability to think reflectively and introspectively.

    10. Re:Message queuing by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      I hear they come in 64GB flavour now.

      There, fixed that for you.

    11. Re:Message queuing by RoboJ1M · · Score: 1

      It said converted cruise ship. Maybe one of the casinos is now a library?
      Also, who says they don't have a digital library? A few TiBs in a server with a computer room (which it almost certainly has) and your done.

      J1M.

    12. Re:Message queuing by rhook · · Score: 1

      Internet access at sea is quite slow though, its doubtful that he will be able to upload many photos during this time period. The best thing to do if you'll be near coastal is to have a cellular modem in your laptop. There is also no way that he will have access to the full sat bandwidth since much of that is reserved for ship operations. You'd lucky to get full 56k most of the time. I know this because I am a professional mariner. Internet on ships is usually limited to email and basic web surfing for the crew. Not to worry though, when you're in port there will be many places you can get online at. Sometimes the port itself will even have free wireless.

    13. Re:Message queuing by SoulRider · · Score: 1

      I agree he needs some professional help, but I was thinking more along the lines of a professional in a bustier and black stockings rather than a lab coat.

    14. Re:Message queuing by Cederic · · Score: 1

      No, he was entirely correct.

    15. Re:Message queuing by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 1

      Look, there's a big gap between saying that media technologies change the structure of attention and saying that it's the end of human civilization. It isn't "blaming" technology, it's saying rather that technologies create an environment that can mask the existence of alternative: people don't even know that there are other ways of perceiving, thinking etc. Which means that something like a semester at sea is really an opportunity, not something to be wasted by keeping one's usual habits.

      But those of us in the education industry can attest to the effect of the internet itself on the quality of student writing and research. It has improved it for a small minority, and worsened it for the majority, who now feel no obligation to ever step into a library.

    16. Re:Message queuing by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Internet access at sea is quite slow though, its doubtful that he will be able to upload many photos during this time period.

      I was getting download speeds of about 5MB/s last weekend, using a satellite link. Better than I get from home. Come to think of it - better than I get when I'm in the office too.

      OK, that's on a Shell rig, and it seems as if Shell have seriously bumped up their normal offshore installation datalink capabilities in the last 18 months. This was on a temporarily-hired rig ; they may have better on their permanently-plumbed installations because they've always got the trivial prospect of pigging one of the gas export pipelines with yet-another fibre-optic cable.

      The best thing to do if you'll be near coastal is to have a cellular modem in your laptop.

      You're pretty lucky to get those working 30km offshore. Plus, they tend to not work too well through three thicknesses of 5mm steel plate before getting to free air. The Faraday Cage effects don't help either.

      I know this because I am a professional mariner.

      I spend most of my working life at sea too. If that's the state of communications on your boat ... well, you're probably at the moving-stuff-around end of the business, not at the knowledge end of the business. The gamut of what's available extends from sending multi-gigabyte digests of a seismic shoot to shore in near-real time to just needing to get some god-awful hodge-podge of a multi-megabyte spreadsheet file with next week's crew-change rosters into the Master's email box. Having said that, last time I worked with seismic they would send the boxes of tapes to shore on each crew change helicopter, every couple of days. Not a deep marine situation.

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    17. Re:Message queuing by rhook · · Score: 1

      Working on a DP rig isn't exactly working at sea. Hell I bet you get to go back to shore just about every day. BTW, comment on the "real knowledge" of seafaring when you've done a bunch of UNREPS and VERTREPS in a storm.

    18. Re:Message queuing by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Working on a DP rig isn't exactly working at sea.

      DP? Only ever been on a couple of those puppies, man. Anchors for us, even if they're on 2 miles of wire. Each.

      Hell I bet you get to go back to shore just about every day.

      Where are you going to get the helicopters, or the pilots? It was a 2 hour flight with one refuelling to get out here for 18 PAX, so that's a maximum of 36 passengers that pair of pilots could have moved in a working day. These days the helicopter business is in the horrible position of actually having to train people from scratch, now that the military pilots have cottoned on to the fact that they can go to fixed wing when they de-mob. Terrible shock for the industry, having to work in a competitive market place with a group of people willing and capable to move to a better employer.

      As for "not at sea" : well, the 65 knot winds and waves breaking onto the main deck (57 to 109 ft above sealevel, depending on the wave) would belie that.

      UNREP and VERTREP? Oh, some sort of stores movements in the Navy. Well, hardly unknown - we're currently waiting on weather conditions to offload a couple of hundred tons of oil-based mud, load up with several hundred tons of containerised and basketed tools and chemicals. That of course is WHEN the sea state allows the service boats to get alongside (26ft+ heave on each vessel, in variable phase) without impacting us (or us impacting them - same difference) ; then, once the master of each of those vessels is happy to come alongside (within 20ft), the crane operators have to be happy to swing their booms around too, with up to 27 tons on the main hoist, then land the MRI scanner tools without banging them hard enough to damage them.

      Nope, up here in the sub-tropical north, we don't know anything about bad weather. It's been a quiet storm this last 24 hours - no rigs have pulled their anchors. And just to make the point, the rig has just yawed off-orientation so that we've lost internet connection while I've been writing this. Oh well, it'll come back, eventually.

      Where are you operating in the Navy? I'm trying to negotiate my way into up-coming work in the South Falkland and Malvinas Basins (around 56S/59W), which is looking like it'll be fun with high overpressure downhole and at least one refuelling on a boat deck somewhere for the helicopter from shore. Or maybe we'll have to crew-change in a basket transfer from a boat onto the rig, which really does not appeal in the Roaring Forties.

      Well, that was a perfect illustration of the problems though. I finished writing the above just before 09:00, then [BOOM] something breaks (at the shore end of the connection) and the whole rig lost communications (telephony, web, email, everything on the network) until about 20:00. The only thing left for troubleshooting was the ship-to-shore. Well, it's fixed now, but will SlashDot accept a 10-hour old form?

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  16. Why not everyone share the internet connection? by McFly69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why not share the internet connection with everyone. 100 minutes for 600 people is alot. Setup an intranet or even a wireless network. Combine the minutes and you will have close to 42 days of internet access for everyone. ((100 minutes * 600 people) / 60 minutes) / 24 hours = 41.666 days.

    If you limit the internet conection to evenings, lets say to 12 hours, then you can double that to 83 days.

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    1. Re:Why not everyone share the internet connection? by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      That's what I was going to say. I was surprised I had to scroll this far down through the responses to find someone else who beat me to it.

      As long as there's decent bandwidth, and you have access to it on your own hardware (via wifi or similar), then you can set up a program that re-authenticates from one user's account to the next and shares out the connection to all of your pool members. The more people join, the more time online they all get, so there's a strong incentive for people to do your recruiting for you.

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  17. Does nobody know about RFC1149? by thomasdz · · Score: 5, Funny

    What? Am I the only old-timer here? There's an RFC standard that fits this PERFECTLY
    http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt
    "1 April 1990: A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers"

    Thomas Dzubin

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    1. Re:Does nobody know about RFC1149? by kylegordon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      These kids have no idea what an RFC is...

      +1 Informative from my imaginary mod point collection.

    2. Re:Does nobody know about RFC1149? by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wasn't this discarded years ago because of the dropped packets problem?

      Or was that packet droppings?

      -Matt

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    3. Re:Does nobody know about RFC1149? by lazyforker · · Score: 1

      On the surface it seems like a good idea. The problem is that modern cruise ships have insufficient storage and buffering for the number of avian carriers. If all 600 students (plus the crew plus the staff) are sending and receiving email, images, YouTube etc they're going to need a lot of pigeons, lofts, birdseed etc. Never mind all the paper to write the packets.

    4. Re:Does nobody know about RFC1149? by Yaur · · Score: 1

      I would assume that their is going to be some return traffic... so this is really just a throughput issue. This is somewhat unavoidable on connections with a high bandwidth delay product.

    5. Re:Does nobody know about RFC1149? by 0xABADC0DA · · Score: 1

      "1 April 1990: A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers"

      The window size can be really small, like 3" on a side. Only dock your ship at well-known ports.

      Also only use ports starting with 1024 since 1-1023 are underground; you need roots to transmit through these ports. DO NOT use portholes 1-1023 unless your avian carriers happen to be penguins.

    6. Re:Does nobody know about RFC1149? by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Not sure but I do know that I'd like to kick this kid's arse. This guy's got the privilege of going on this exclusive, obscenely expensive paradise cruise for several months and he's got the nerve to ask for unlimited Internet access.

      If he can afford this cruise then he can bloody well afford to hook himself up with and Iridium phone/data connection. Quite whining and leave us alone.

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    7. Re:Does nobody know about RFC1149? by ubergamer1337 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, what an asshole I am.
      Here I am working my ass off to pay my OWN tuition so I can travel the seas, and I want to be able to send a few pics home to mom and dad, and maybe an Aunt or two.

      Your right, I should totally work another shift a week so I can buy a phone instead of trying to find a creative solution.

      What a Dick I am.

    8. Re:Does nobody know about RFC1149? by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      No, that's the built in audit trail.

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    9. Re:Does nobody know about RFC1149? by cstdenis · · Score: 1

      Dropping packets isn't an issue. Just use the QOS extension in RFC 2549.

      Packet droppings sound messy tho.

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  18. Re:Amateur Radio? by jluros · · Score: 2, Funny

    You have plenty of time to get your general license, which should permit you to use airmail using an amateur radio. But you have to hurry, and come up with the $2500 for equipment.

  19. Mail2Web and Wordpress by TinBromide · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out how to Post to your wordpress blog using email. or possibly Internet Access Via Email, Get Web Pages to deliver web pages via html formatted email.

    That is all.

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    1. Re:Mail2Web and Wordpress by wrenoud · · Score: 1

      Flickr supports uploading a photo and blog post via email and will post to Wordpress.

  20. Get your ducks in a row... by bushboy · · Score: 1

    100 minutes is longer than you may think.
    Compose everything offline and minimize the size of any images.
    If you limit your online time to simply uploading/sending all your pre-created content and try to limit your online time to 2 minutes each session, you could get away with it.

    It's simply a case of getting all your ducks in a row.

    Aside from that, there's a chance of bartering with other shipmates for online time.

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  21. Sadly you have next to no options by areusche · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is pretty much next to nothing you can do. Since you are at sea you won't be able to use your cell phone to connect to the web.

    A satellite phone with a very very slow dial up connection is your best bet, but too cost prohibitive. Here's a company that does its job fairly well http://www.globalstar.com/

    The only way you'll have affordable and uninhibited internet access is to wait until you get to port.

    However, for wikipedia you can actually download an offline version of the entire database. For a wikipedia like experiance follow the instructions on this website

    http://www.blindedbytech.com/2006/08/31/how-to-install-wikipedia-for-offline-access/

    Also the raw dump for the english articles is here:

    http://download.wikimedia.org/

    Oh you can also download a DVD version of Wikipedia from that link above. Definitely worth looking at!

    Good luck! And definitely have an awesome time. That program sounds interesting and I will look into it as well since I'm a 2nd semester college freshmen.

    1. Re:Sadly you have next to no options by KefabiMe · · Score: 1

      Just to put my experience out there... I fish commercially in Alaska during the summer. Globalstar has been such a frustration we changed the logo on our phone to read GlobalSHIT. A 3 minute conversation with loved ones you haven't seen for over a month can be shittier than not talking to them at all.

      I take that back, 3 minutes with a conversation cut short is infinitely better than not talking at all, but it's probably one of the most frustrating things I've had to deal with in my life.

    2. Re:Sadly you have next to no options by piltdownman84 · · Score: 1

      globalstar was really good about five years ago and then their equipment went to crap and became unreliable. The compnay I work for had them in our planes, but the service has really goen downhill and we now use a iridium based system.

  22. Used to be... by C10H14N2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Back when Chapman University ran it, we called it "The Love Boat," so immersion and deep involvement with fellow travelers, yes, the studies, not so much...

    1. Re:Used to be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The Love Boat?

      Does that mean you go on the ship with your girlfriend, have a fight that lasts the entire journey, and make up just as it ends?

      They should have called that show The Hate Boat.

    2. Re:Used to be... by david@ecsd.com · · Score: 1
      Reminds me of a time I was talking to a retired chef. He was one of those who's entirely enamored with his abilities, and would be insulted if you asked for a salt shaker. He complained that one time a person asked for some hot sauce with the lobster he'd ordered and claimed to be insulted by the request.

      "Probably to cover up the taste of the lobster," I said.

      He didn't say anything, but "Mr. Chef" gave me the stink-eye.

  23. RFC 1149 by schmidt349 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unfortunately short of hanging a satellite dish out your cabin window there really isn't a way for you to get a TCP/IP uplink. RFC 1149 does specify a TCP connection modality which could be suitable to transmission of data over long distances at sea, but it was last implemented in 1991 and the engineers responsible were never able to get it to send more than a few hundred bytes of data. YMMV, but I think it's probably your best shot.

    1. Re:RFC 1149 by jandrese · · Score: 1

      It seems to me that TCP/IP is not the proper protocol for this, something like DTN is far better suited for his connectivity situation, especially since you could theoretically get an international phone service and have most bulk data sent only when you get close enough to port to relay through cell phone services. He could even write up an Email convergence layer if he wanted and theoretically get around the online time limitations (even if, as I suspect, email is only sent in big batches at non-peak times). The downside is that this depends greatly on how the online access is structured in the ship, and doing something like this would be somewhere between difficult and near impossible.

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    2. Re:RFC 1149 by eth1 · · Score: 1

      Recent flash memory advances would probably dramatically increase the bandwidth potential of IPoAC :)

  24. I'd check the fine print. by astrodoom · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What you're talking about really seems like they're going to be conducting some sort of study involving you guys. At least, I sure as heck would if I was going to have the oppurtunity to put 600 people to sea for 4 months. I'm betting that what you do (and how well you do in the classes) is going to be monitored much more than you seem to think, and if this internet thing is part of their rules, it would be a good idea to stick with it. I could be wrong, I just can't see a university letting a chance like that for their psych/soc department going to waste. If I was a professor in either of those departments I'd be all over this program like white on bread.

    1. Re:I'd check the fine print. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      This is not just wrong, but wildly paranoid and refuted with a minimum of effort. 10 seconds of googling would have show that Semester At Sea is a long established academic program, not a psych project. To borrow a quote from the old days: Please check your nonsense before posting to Usenet. Or in this case, Slashdot.

  25. BBS by Tom · · Score: 1

    You want fetchmail and a local SMTP server with modified queue times.

    In essence, you want what used to be the norm back in the BBS days - queued up mail. When you go to port, you get a connection and fetch all your mails, then reply to them and send the answers at next opportunity. 15 years ago, that was how mail worked, whether it be Usenet or FIDO or others. The tools are still around.

    And you want to become accustomed to not having a 24/7 connection for a change. I know it can be hard, but if you're doing something it's a quick change. I was without any Internet at all for 5 days in a row twice last summer, and I barely noticed except by the amount of mail that had piled up when I came back. So: It ain't that bad. You can live without Internet. It's doable. :-)

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    1. Re:BBS by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      You know, any email program with the option to disable 'send messages immediately' and 'send/receive mail every X minutes' would do just fine.

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    2. Re:BBS by Tom · · Score: 1

      You also need the incoming side. Yeah, I know, POP3 and everything. I'd still trust a local mailserver more, but maybe that's because I used to run a BBS.

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    3. Re:BBS by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what having a local mail server popping your mail would get you over having your email client pop your email; hell, use IMAP and you have decent control over what you actually want to bother downloading.

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  26. iPhone by pla · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Just get an iPhone with the biggest data plan they offer. Seriously.

    I normally get modded down for my opinion of Apple, but in this case, it seems like the optimal solution... A portable, fairly efficient all-in-one platform for communication, including at least basic web browsing and multimedia capabilities, and most importantly, including its own built-in means of getting to the 'net (at least when in port, anyway).

    1. Re:iPhone by escaped1st · · Score: 1

      Get an unlimited data plan and a cell phone that allows you to hook up an external antenna. Likely you will spend a lot of time within a few miles of shore. Plus on days you are in port you don't have to search for an internet cafe.

      In my experience the 'sea days' when the ship's cell tower is the only signal are the minority.

    2. Re:iPhone by TheSync · · Score: 1

      Just get an iPhone with the biggest data plan they offer. Seriously.

      I don't know where the "Semester at Sea" goes, but if you start roaming outside the US your iPhone bills are going to be super-massive!!!!!

    3. Re:iPhone by SwedishChef · · Score: 1

      I don't know what you rocket scientists think an iPhone (cell phone, after all) is going to connect to out on the ocean. Once you are about 20 miles offshore there is no cell phone service at all. This is why ships use satellite phone systems, HF radios, morse code, etc.

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    4. Re:iPhone by rob1980 · · Score: 1

      There is really only one data plan available for the iPhone. (Well, two, but the second is an "enterprise" which offers the same "unlimited" data as the first.) Also, there are no cell towers in the middle of the ocean.

    5. Re:iPhone by pringlis · · Score: 1

      Won't that just result in a massive bill for roaming?

    6. Re:iPhone by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Just get an iPhone with the biggest data plan they offer. Seriously.

      This is terrible advice. You should have been modded down. I used to live in an isolated area, (NW Australian mining town) and the GSM signal would drop out about 10 KM out of town. UTMS would be even worse.

      Also, the choice of Iphone is even worse advice then the choice of mobile telephone technology. The iphone is locked and tri-band, not quad-band so it may not work in certain countries, specifically in countries where the Telco's aren't as good as the western world (this should say a lot) where dropouts back to a GSM network are common place (I found Thailand like this, and this was in coastal Phuket, not out in the boonies).

      If you really want to go the mobile route, get an unlocked HDSPA/UTMS/GSM USB modem or phone that can be used as a modem. It needs to support all three standards, quad-band and unlocked so you can put local SIM card in there to avoid the roaming fees for data.

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    7. Re:iPhone by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Just get an iPhone with the biggest data plan they offer. Seriously.

      Might work, might not. If I cared to ask the guy at work who keeps on trying to show off his iPhone, then I might find out. But I can't say that I'm bothered to find out what internet browsing on a 9cm screen is like.

      However, having wandered around more than a few ports in a variety of cities on a variety of continents, I can tell you to keep the iPhone hidden, and to keep a reasonable quality cellphone available. If you don't have something to give to the muggers, just expect them to kill you and take what you were protecting anyway. If you let them have something that looks believably valuable, you might get away with your iPhone, your data, and your face intact. Might.

      Sounds like this is a scheme for introducing people to different ways of life. Which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. But the problem with meeting different ways of life is that you may get more than you're expecting. Depending on gender, take contraceptives ; not depending on gender, carry condoms and a (fake) letter from your doctor about your positive HIV test (in BIG print!). (The latter is not for the health authorities - it's to persuade the rapist-to-be to use a condom on you, so that YOU don't catch THEIR diseases. You never know - they might be so put off that you might even get away without being raped.) Oh, did I puncture your dreams of an idyllic cruise? Well, better punctured now than in a dark alley in the docks.

      And do not expect the same laws to apply in the port country as apply at home (wherever that is). Seriously, do not.

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  27. ELF... by GenP · · Score: 1

    Just drag a ELF transponder behind the boat. Bandwidth kinda sucks though :(

  28. Find files that are saved in ASCII encoding! by Jonas+Buyl · · Score: 1

    The easiest way would be to see if you can find an archive tool that can save your file to ASCII text so they can archive+split the files, copy+paste it into a mail and send it. Then you paste it into a new text file and you should be able to open it as an archive. Another way is to see if you can find a converter that can convert your binary .7z archive (e.g.) to readable ASCII. But more specifically: Wiki pages can be saved as html which are already in ASCII format so just copy+paste html code from the mail to a text file, save it as .html and open it in a browser. For pictures you can resort to the several (hardly known) picture file formats that use ASCII encoding. I hope this helps you a bit but the important part is to enjoy the trip! Generally a minute/day should be enough to send stuff through a gmail anyway :)

  29. Be wary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    When I was on Semester At Sea, in the late 80s, we were totally cut off except for the one phone line that cost something like $25 a minute (If it was available) which few people used and then there was the ability to send a one page fax for something like $5, but you could find a way to write a whole heck of a lot on one page. We were totally cut off in ways I doubt you will be cut off now. We had one movie night a week, but other than than we had nothing. This led as another poster said to us playing a lot of board games, poker and backgammon. It was like rolling back to the 1940s before the age of television. We interacted with one another in ways that, due to the colossal time suck that television is and the internet has become, just do not happen any these days. It was refreshing and that seldom seen level of interaction and involvement with the other students has stayed with me to this day. You might find a way to keep in constant internet communication, but be wary that burying your head in your lap top tethered to your cell phone will likely deprive you of one of the best parts of the experience. Enjoy!

  30. Start your own ISP? by Delta · · Score: 1

    There are 600 students, most of which will probably bring a laptop, and want to stay in touch, just as you do.

    Seems like it could be an idea to bring a satellite uplink, provide services to the students at a small upmark in your costs, and use the earnings to pay for your own bandwidth use?

    Alternatively set up a proxy;

    Charge the others for their used bandwidth, on their side of the connection. If two people download the same URL, you're charging them twice, leaving earnings to cover your own use.

    Be honest with them about that though, so nobody feels cheated.

    Another thing to consider is to go to a satellite provider and simply ask if they want to provide you with equipment and/or some bandwidth for free, or at a reduced cost. It's a great way for them to market themselves to the 600 students, which throughout their careers might need a similar service, and guess which provider they'd think of first? Surely the one that helped them out when they were students.

    The three options can be combined offcourse. If you can borrow equipment for free, get slightly lower bandwidth fees, and a flexible payment plan, so you don't get stuck with a huge bill, you could be set for the duration. :)

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  31. Email Blogging via Surgemail by Blowit · · Score: 1

    Surgemail Mail server supports Blogging via email. You may want to check it out. For personal use 5 user system it is free.
    http://www.netwinsite.com/

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  32. money-making opportunity by davejenkins · · Score: 4, Interesting
    You should view this as an incredible money-making opportunity: they've created an artificial shortage for online access, so exploit it:
    1. go to radio shack/fry's/wherever to get your satellite broadband hook-up equipment. It doesn't matter if the equipment costs you $5000-- you'll make it back.
    2. Set up Internet access in your cabin
    3. Charge the other students $10/10 minutes. Bonus points if you can get 2-3 terminals working over your sat connection. You'll probably be billing out a solid 3 hours/night = $180/day * 90 days = $16,200.
    4. Profit!!!

    You're welcome.

    1. Re:money-making opportunity by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      5. Do little else but be the ISP/help desk/whipping boy for 600 rich kids on a cruise.

    2. Re:money-making opportunity by cowlum1 · · Score: 1

      and the real world version

      1. go to radio shack/fry's/wherever to get your satellite broadband hook-up equipment. It doesn't matter if the equipment costs you $5000
      2.Set up Internet access in your cabin
      3.Wonder why its not working
      3.Spend time trying to resolve issue
      4.Organise to change Cabins
      5.Spend more time trying to resolve issue
      6.Realize you have spent first 10 days at sea in your cabin fiddling with cables and software settings.
      7. Write in paper based log at sea "no girls yet"
      8. Give up
      9. Loss

      You're welcome

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    3. Re:money-making opportunity by smilingfrog · · Score: 1

      Make sure you know you have a view of the sky from your cabin before you try this! Otherwise you'll just end up with a funky looking fruit bowl for $5000.

  33. UUCP for images by Lorens · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Technically: you say "messages under a megabyte with no attachments" and ask for "a way to send photos (encode them as text?)". That's UUCP. Setting up a mail/web server that receives a mail with text followed by uuencoded images and posts that to a blog if and only if there's a password in the header or subject sounds like a 50-line perl script.

    However, you don't say that you get to take your own computer along; if you can't do that a lot of your options are shot.

    Socially? My advice: live with it. Make a website later. Make the most of the cruise, spend time on your homework^Wcabinwork. OK I'm extrapolating, I know Internet access at sea is extremely expensive and that that's probably the reason for the restrictions, but it probably isn't a good idea to spend time circumventing your Internet restrictions to update your blog while the guys who devised said restrictions to get you weaned off your Internet addiction are wondering why you're not socializing ;-)

    1. Re:UUCP for images by mzs · · Score: 1

      Or he could put uuencode and split on a thumb drive.

  34. Innovative methods? Old ones work best by doktorstop · · Score: 1

    A data transfer protocol described numerous times...
    send messages in a bottle! Seems to work, search Slashdot for rubberduck stories!

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  35. Give this a shot by gravyface · · Score: 1

    Now, before you leave, and see how it works for you. Disclaimer: have not tried it myself; googled it.

    http://emailweb.us/

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  37. Still the way. by camperdave · · Score: 3, Informative

    In essence, you want what used to be the norm back in the BBS days - queued up mail.

    Actually, this is still the way email works. It's just that, with the connection always up, you never see stuff waiting around in your outbox anymore as it gets sent right away.

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  38. sailmail over HF by sammyo · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a free email option. It requires a HAM license (note: morse code is not required anymore) and a SSB transmiter and a hundred foot antenna. A good SSB unit is around a thousand bucks.

    It is only for text based non-commercial emails but functions anywhere (under most weather conditions).

    Doesn't sound like a solution for a students desire to surf the web for free anywhere/anytime but email is available and pervasive just about anywhere.

    1. Re:sailmail over HF by rednip · · Score: 1

      It requires ... a hundred foot antenna.

      Hey, look that ship is happy to see us!

      Seriously, the ship captain might object to installing it. Besides from the summary, I get the impression that email is already included, just limited in size.

      A ship owner might find the solution really useful, so it's not bad to mention, but I doubt if it would be useful in this situation.

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    2. Re:sailmail over HF by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 1

      ... Semester at Seat

      Wouldn't that be a normal semester?

    3. Re:sailmail over HF by Nethead · · Score: 4, Informative

      And by law you must get the ship master's permission to use ham radio on a ship. Close reading of Part 97 will show that this is ever true for ferry boats in Puget Sound and your 2m HT.

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    4. Re:sailmail over HF by pjt33 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Whose law? The ship may be under a flag of convenience - Panama, say.

    5. Re:sailmail over HF by tsm1mt · · Score: 1

      At what point do you need to check for a reciprocal licensing agreement. What applies in international waters? Reciprocal would apply while at port, or inside territorial waters.

    6. Re:sailmail over HF by Laith · · Score: 1

      Actually I believe that the International conventions/regulations for Amateur Radio would make this apply regardless. Then there are the conventions of shipboard behavior... basically anything you do aboard ship is at the captain's permission...

      Reciprocal licensing and such would potentially be an issue as well.

    7. Re:sailmail over HF by Baruch+Atta · · Score: 1

      Could we have some more details on this???? I would like to know too. SSB? dont you mean cw?

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    8. Re:sailmail over HF by Baruch+Atta · · Score: 1

      a "Hamstick" antenna for 20 meters is only 10 feet long. Also, you can get a decent SSB tranceiver for about $250 if you are willing to use an aptly named "boat anchor". ON a boat. Get it? hihi.

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    9. Re:sailmail over HF by piltdownman84 · · Score: 1

      sailmail works great. My parents use it on their sailboat.

    10. Re:sailmail over HF by Zondar · · Score: 1

      First and foremost... ask if you can bring a radio onboard before even thinking about any of this. Their radio operator will probably notice your operations.

      Second, the Sailmail service doesn't even require an amateur radio license. It works over commercial frequencies.

      http://www.sailmail.com/smprimer.htm#Getting%20Connected%20via%20Radio

      Third, the modem required for Sailmail is several hundred dollars, not counting the radio and the antenna (another thousand plus)...

    11. Re:sailmail over HF by arkarumba · · Score: 1

      By the law of the captain who'll toss you overboard if you annoy him.

      The law of the high seas, me matey, aarrghhh.

  39. E-mail/Connectivity at sea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Well.....

    I'm probably going to get laughed at, but so what. This is /. ....

    If you are using a GUI-based system, you have no chance in Hell of trying to stay within the time constraints. Pictures are large, no matter what compression scheme you are going to use. T-mobile is expensive. Satellite is even more expensive (last I checked, it was about USD 10.00/Min).

    Get a text-based e-mail (mail in *NIX). That sends EVERYTHING in ascii. Nice and small, but picture attachments are still HUGE, especially if you have a high-res camera. If you have the skilz, go with a *NIX OS and cron the e-mail to send after you update your blog file locally (grab the copy and send it every other day or so. For the big stuff, run into the Internet Cafe at what ever port you are in and send the pics off of a thumb drive. ...my $0.02...

    1. Re:E-mail/Connectivity at sea by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Hello? Resizing? A 640x480 JPEG weighs in pretty small, and that's big enough to share with friends or post on a blog. If your friends want full-sized copies, they can wait until you get your normal connectivity back. Compress the JPEG more and you'll save even more space, but a quick sample image I tried saving ended up being ~100k at 80% compression, which wasn't enough to notice artifacts.

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  40. Well, the easy answer would be by hey! · · Score: 1

    rental a satellite phone or satellite terminal.

    I think you can find a satellite terminal for about $10/day and $7 or so per MB. So let's say you are at sea for eight weeks, or 56 days. Assuming about $20/day (a bit more than 1MB per day), it's going to cost about $1,120, which isn't bad at all if it really is important to you. I imagine business is bad so you might be able to talk them down for publicity purposes.

    Other solutions probably take more time than you want to spend. The obvious one would be to get your Ham license. It'd take time, cost about the same, but then you'd have your license and the related equipment. Alternatively, I've looked at self-contained container tracking units that have a limited telemetry transmission capability. Imagine sending your data as a series of SMS messages spaced apart every ten minutes or so. That's enough to update your blog, but you aren't going to be able send anything but the lowest res pictures in less than a day.

    You could probably find a satphone rental for less money, which is intermediate in cost and capacity. You can send data at something like 2KBaud, but you'll have to work the details to see whether you come out ahead for your planned transmissions.

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    1. Re:Well, the easy answer would be by chainsaw1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      BGAN is your answer. Satellite internet via INMARSAT. Not cheap, but it works (and more importantly works for your specific application). You probably won't want to leave it mounted outside while you are not on the deck and will need to fine a creative way to power it (I believe it is 24V DC or can be powered with a 24V DC power source--probably not a lot of plugs on the weather decks...)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_Global_Area_Network

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    2. Re:Well, the easy answer would be by hey! · · Score: 1

      Yep, that's what I meant by a satellite terminal. It's actually not very expensive.

      The thing is to rent the terminal, not buy it. I just looked it up, and you can rent a for two months for about $900, plus $6.40 per megabyte transmitted. That's not pocket change, but it's damned cheap considering what you get; you just plug it in and go. It's something a student could swing financially, especially if he gets his parents to pony up some of the base cost on the promise that he'll phone home every day.

      Otherwise you are talking about trying various clever solutions that aren't likely to be much less expensive, but likely to be MUCH more time consuming and considerably less satisfactory.

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  42. One more thing by areusche · · Score: 1

    Get a flash drive and download Portable firefox. With that you can run adblock, noscript, and all of the other wonderful firefox extensions you like. Make sure you turn off images as well. You can definitely get a TON of internet browsing using only text.

  43. Free Holiday blog site by Bat+Dude · · Score: 1

    A couple I Know just completed a world tour and used this site I believe its free. Sound like a great learning holiday have fun. http://www.getjealous.com/

  44. Just cut one of those large cables/pipelines... by Nine+Dice · · Score: 2, Funny

    and you will have enough Internet spewing all over the place for everyone!

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  45. A crazy idea that just might work. by john.picard · · Score: 1

    Let's see if I understand you correctly on the email thing, putting aside the 100 minutes of regular Internet access. The way it sounds, you can send and receive an unlimited amount of email messages, so long as each message is under one megabyte in size. It also sounds like this is probably not a web-based email, because if it were, you could access the rest of the web. So this is what you should do if you have some time available to you prior to the commencement of this voyage. You should hack up a tun device that sends each packet as a single email message to a specified email address, or converts an email message received from this address back into a packet. Then you run OpenVPN and have it use this hacked tun device. You set up a computer at your or someone's home and in addition to running this tun device and OpenVPN on it, you also install packet forwarding rules that NAT the "normal" interface over to the tun interface. You set up OpenVPN accordingly on your laptop. It will probably be very slow, but the advantages are that you will have an unlimited amount of access through this system, and you will be able to access any part of the Internet through this system that you would be able to access from your home. And if it works, it would make a good magazine article for Linux Journal, too.

  46. Re:Amateur Radio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Parent's joke has a good grain of truth to it. One of the best tools for non-commercial communication in this environment is Amateur Radio.

  47. You're Missing the Point by likerice · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The severing of your electronic tethers is a luxury not to be taken lightly, my friend. Relax and enjoy the ocean breeze and various ports of call.

    1. Re:You're Missing the Point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not being able to be bothered by my boss/coworkers is a luxury. Not being able to talk to friends and family is not.

  48. download it all by penguinbroker · · Score: 1

    instead of fetching wiki pages throughout the trip you should consider downloading the entire site onto your laptop. the content won't be up to date but for the most part it won't be that outdated either. i believe the entire corpus is under 5 gigs.

  49. Maintaining a blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I can't help with the majority of your question but as far as maintaining a blog, look into Posterous, really easy to set up an account and you can update it through email as well as have it automatically forward your updates to other various services.

  50. shortwave packet by sydres · · Score: 1

    I am not sure of the range but you might be able to set up a packet radio at home and be able to pick it up at least part of the way course this would require a an outlay of cash as well as a shortwave license. My guess is it would be slow

  51. The Greatest Lesson You'll Learn by aquatone282 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is life without the Internet.

    Learn how the human race lived during the last century - get a short-wave radio and some good books and discover for yourself how a simple life can be a deeply satisfying life.

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    1. Re:The Greatest Lesson You'll Learn by swillden · · Score: 1

      There is life without the Internet.

      Lived it for many years.

      You can keep it.

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  52. At sea has to be cheaper than Iraq!? by Banquo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not to threadjack, but this is related...

    A friend of mine is stationed in Iraq with a similar problem. I went looking to see if there was something here I could buy and ship there so that he would have something more than just enough time and resources to send a couple of mails a day.

    The only thing I could find was a compay called TS2 Satellite, they want 4K for their equipment and then about $900/mo for service. I mean I love the guy but I can't shell out that kind of dough (especially as he's there till Dec)

    Anyone know of any other solutions?

    1. Re:At sea has to be cheaper than Iraq!? by dj015 · · Score: 1

      I took part in a trial using the BGan on board a vessel to see if the technology was worth putting into a dome and selling to boats (as opposed to what we did and held on to the rail for dear life trying not to get anything wet or lose the satellite connection). I was very impressed with it and Journalists in the field use it a lot I have heard and though a pain in the arse to use on a small boat, on a stable platform it was pretty good. Especially as once you have charged the thing up the battery lasted longer than my laptop battery. The line rental was pretty cheap as well if you set aside the inital cost of 2 or 3 thousand dollars if I remember rightly

  53. Re:Amateur Radio? by stox · · Score: 1

    Less than that, maybe $700:

    $500 Yaesu FT857D used on eBay
    $100 RigBlaster
    $100 Power Supply

    Rigging an antenna might be an issue, though.

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  54. HAM Radio / Blogging by cavac · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Get a HAM radio license and a portable radio (like the VX-7R or whatever works for you).

    While you likely wont be able to make worldwide contacts (unless you bring a 30+ meter long antenna with you as well), you should be able to contact many people while you are near the shore.

    Believe me, it's much more interesting than surfing the web. And in case of an emergency, you have some means of backup communication.

    About blogging: Don't blog. At least not "online". If you really want to blog (a some sort of diary), do it offline but spend as little time as possible on it; just take quick notes. When the semester is over, take that notes, refine them into articles and release them part-by-part over some time. This way, you don't waste precious time of your semester AND you have much more leisure time to really release refined articles.

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    1. Re:HAM Radio / Blogging by kgkeys · · Score: 1

      I didn't RTFA, but a 100watt 20m rig would cover significant distances (I myself have made 4000mi. contacts on 20m here at the bottom of the solar cycle) during daylight hours and a half wave dipole for 20m would only be 10m long, much shorter than the 30+ you specified. In fact, with a simple antenna tuner, you could probably use an even shorter end-fed wire and still get decent results.

    2. Re:HAM Radio / Blogging by tsm1mt · · Score: 1

      *Especially* while on board a ship, over a "perfect ground" of salt-water with nothing to obstruct the signal for miles and miles. I think an HF rig would be great while on board, and a 2M HT could lead to some very interesting contacts while at port.

    3. Re:HAM Radio / Blogging by cavac · · Score: 1

      A paper journal also gives (at least) me more time to think about what i'm actually writing, because it's a much slower, more intense process than typing on a keyboard.

      When you come home. you can always take the text you have written, put it into a text editor and expand on it before putting it on the web... (but: add the scans too!)

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    4. Re:HAM Radio / Blogging by cavac · · Score: 1

      That's why you probably wont need a big antenna. One of this mobile ones with the magnet on the bottom should be really enough.

      May also take a few meters of cable, some solder and a soldering iron with you... if need be, you can put together a simple handheld yagi and call you beloved ones via HAM satellite. And that's what your internet connection comes into play: Spend a few minutes looking up the up-to-date comm passes. Even just listening in could be a very exiting experience for you and your shipmates.. with any luck, you might even make contact with the International Space Station (Callsign: NA1SS)

      Check this http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/reference/radio/ and this http://www.issfanclub.com/taxonomy/term/6 out.

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    5. Re:HAM Radio / Blogging by cavac · · Score: 1

      You're right. Hadn't thought it through. A small antenna should be enough.

      Anyway, making more local contacts is more interesting in this case anyway (for everything else: HAM sats are available and should work with a small, hendheld yagi)

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  55. Something else to think about: Power by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

    If you decide to try any of the things suggested, remember that shipboard power can be rather, ah, interesting. There may be restrictions on what can be connected, and/or on how much power can be used. That second one may be no big deal, but shipboard power and electronics do not always play nicely together.

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    1. Re:Something else to think about: Power by kgkeys · · Score: 1

      Very good point. Also, per the FCC's rules, a ham radio operator must obtain permission from the pilot or captain of the ship when operating an amateur radio station aboard an aeronautical, or naval vessel.

    2. Re:Something else to think about: Power by kgkeys · · Score: 1

      sorry, s/naval/maritime/ they're not going to war.

  56. Pictures to ascii and back? by Donovon · · Score: 1

    Maybe I'm getting old, but we used to use a nifty thing called uuencode back in the usenet days.
    You can send any file you like via a text-only medium.
    I don't know of any implementation that will automatically decode it and post to a blog for you, but
    I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to create with the proper skill set...
    or a buddy on the other side to decode and post it for you.

    Have a safe and productive journey!

    =-D

  57. try.. by hypergreatthing · · Score: 1

    uuencode - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuencode

    you'll have to ask for something and get it converted into several messages of text, save it and uudecode it back to it's binary format.

  58. Immersion by uneek · · Score: 1

    Hi:

    Why don't you forgo internet access and just immerse yourself in the experience?

  59. HAM Radio is the way to go. by furry_wookie · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just get a HAM license, and use WINLINK/AIRMAIL and you can have all the free email you want.

    http://www.winlink.org/
    http://hamradio.arc.nasa.gov/meetings/HFradioatsea.html

    You can run winlink over HF using any HF radio ($200+) and a decent wire antenna on the ship.

    Its very popular for sea and also use in remote locations by Missionaries in Africa etc..

    You can also use APRS to do automatic position reporting for your ship over HF Radio as well and your family would be able to track your location on a map. http://www.findu.com/

    There are also various 'nets' where people all get together on a particular frequency and exchange messages etc. HAM's sill provide national message traffic passing services (Aka TELEGRAMS) for health and welfare messages for people. This is one of the main function that HAM's provide for RedCross, disaster locations etc.

    You can come to the net and pick up and messages, and send a telegram to any family friends via HF voice.

    http://www.cruiser.co.za/radionet.asp

    Amateur(HAM) Radio is a very very valuable addition to worldwide boating activities.

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    1. Re:HAM Radio is the way to go. by ManxStef · · Score: 1

      As far as my experience goes, this is fine for very low bandwidth data (sub-100KB text-only email) but no good for anything else. I used an SSB radio with a Pactor modem and SailMail while crossing the Atlantic, and it was great for staying in touch with friends but it wouldn't handle attachments, so photos and suchlike were out of the question. A lot of the sailors I've met opt for satphones with data capabilities, from providers such as Thuraya, which give something like 9600 baud at a reasonable cost, but the coverage isn't as complete as what you'll get with SSB. Either way, there's no chance a student can afford these: an SSB with a modem is way more expensive than a cheap satphone, and the cheapest Thuraya Hughes phone I found was around $500 second-hand (excluding any data topups).

      It's pretty clear if you know a bit about marine data comms that Ubergamer's data quotas are actually extremely generous: 100 minutes of net access and permanent e-mail use with a megabyte message limit is a good deal. My advice would be to use a WordPress blog and set up the e-mail posting option, forget photographs or perhaps use them as part of the 100 minutes quota. Forget Facebook, MySpace and other social networking sites; point your friends at your blog and stay in touch via e-mail and the occasional phone call (assuming you get a reasonable voice quota). Read more books, get to know the people you're sailing with and Enjoy the travels!

  60. Iridium is the best way to go... if you have $2000 by neurocutie · · Score: 1

    Someone mentioned GlobalStar, but their satellites are failing... Iridium is the only "decent" sat-phone right now for this hemisphere, although there are other options in the Eastern hemisphere.

    Slow, about 9600baud, and expensive (spend $2000 or so for phone and a year's of service), but works everywhere...

    I know you probably don't have $2K to blow, so if you can really send emails of 1MB (no attachments), learn how to make "embedded attachments" the ol' fashion way... (uuencode)...

    and learn to appreciate WAP/text HTML... if you get close to the shore, you should be able to roam onto GSM networks with GPRS data. Try www.riiing.com or www.prepaidgsm.net for GSM data worldwide (you'll need a quadband GSM phone unlocked).

  61. Wikipedia: Get a static copy by Hoplite3 · · Score: 1

    http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/

    If you think you'll need it, get a recent static copy. Most things you will look up won't change much over a few months.

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    1. Re:Wikipedia: Get a static copy by Jerry+Beasters · · Score: 1

      Wikipedia is not a primary resource, and not a reliable secondary. I never had a singly class in college that allowed anything but a primary resource as a source. I would question the validity of any education that does, especially such an academically unreliable secondary source such as wikipedia. It's good for looking things up for fun, that's it.

    2. Re:Wikipedia: Get a static copy by macintard · · Score: 1

      Wikipedia is not a primary resource, and not a reliable secondary. I never had a singly class in college that allowed anything but a primary resource as a source. I would question the validity of any education that does, especially such an academically unreliable secondary source such as wikipedia. It's good for looking things up for fun, that's it.

      Thanks, Professor.

  62. Emails still equals data usage. by ufoolme · · Score: 1

    I think you'll find that even if you do get an email to web gateway working, you'll get caught due to higher than average data usage. Bare this in mind, and try to make friends with what ever passes for a sys admin at sea. As I'm sure you'll have to sign some crazy internet usage form. On another note if they've opened a port for email, there's probably a way to get around the firewall. I doubt it'd be very advanced. But as every one else says, it probably better to concern yourself with getting laid.

  63. File embed in ASCII by OVDoobie · · Score: 1

    This won't get you more internet access, but here is a site that lets you embed files in ASCII art. You could send the ASCII art as text in the e-mails and your family could "decrypt" them on the other end. You might be able to grab their code somehow and use it offline so you don't burn your internet minutes uploading files to it.

  64. Bring a cantenna by randomErr · · Score: 1

    If you're really a geek you could try finding a wifi hotspot when you close to a port with a cantenna. The biggest issues with wifi over long distances are obstructions. Your boat should always be pointed in the general direction of a port, so sit at the front with a Pringles can and hope for an open router.

    FYI: Back in the day we could get webpages via email. I think all of those services are down right now, but I'm sure anyone could rebuild a web app to do just that.

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  65. not a problem by icandodat · · Score: 1

    You're going to be so busy scamming squirrel that you're not going to care about internet. Take advantage of the time away, disconnect man, simplify.

  66. Forget the internet! by jason.sweet · · Score: 2

    You're going to be on a ship with ~300 girls. Get your priorities straight!

  67. Data Compression by sciop101 · · Score: 1
    Sounds like number of emails is unlimited, just size of each email is limited to 1 MByte.

    Send select pictures embedded in email. Save rest to snail mail or email from Internet cafe.

    Test your website thoroughly before you leave.

    100 minutes disappear if you are not organized. Use these minutes sparingly.

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  68. Use the opportunity properly by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you're going on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity like this then why waste the time doing internet stuff that you can do for the rest of your life.

    Use the opportunity wisely. Soak up the new experiences. DOn't be one of those fools that travel halfway around the world to sit in a McDonalds or an internet cafe.

    Forget about the internet, email, wikipedia etc.They'll all still be there when you're done.

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    1. Re:Use the opportunity properly by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      DOn't be one of those fools that travel halfway around the world to sit in a McDonalds or an internet cafe.

      Yeah, do what my girlfriend wanted to do when we went to Florence instead: Find a pizza hut ;)

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    2. Re:Use the opportunity properly by blueZ3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is because Italian pizza is CRAZY.

      When I was stationed in Italy (in the north, about mid-way between Milan and Venice) our first night off post we stopped to get a "real" Italian pizza. Imagine our surprise when, after it came out of the over, the server proceeded to pour about 1/2 cup of olive oil over the whole thing. As if pizza weren't greasy enough!

      On the other hand, every bite of pasta I ate during my three years in Italy was divine.

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    3. Re:Use the opportunity properly by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Funny

      When I was stationed in Italy (in the north, about mid-way between Milan and Venice) our first night off post we stopped to get a "real" Italian pizza. Imagine our surprise when, after it came out of the over, the server proceeded to pour about 1/2 cup of olive oil over the whole thing. As if pizza weren't greasy enough!

      Yeah, I wasn't particularly impressed with "real" Italian pizza. I definately like the Americanized version better. But I wouldn't call pizza hut "real" pizza either. When I think of real pizza I think of New York City pizzeria style -- thin crust, huge slices that you have to fold over to eat..... nothing like it.

      On the other hand, every bite of pasta I ate during my three years in Italy was divine.

      Yeah. And the antipastos. Absolutely loved them. Seems like all the Italians do is eat. Our hostess kept apologizing to us for "only" being able to make four antipastos when she made us dinner the first night. I was the only one in our group that was able to put away all of that food. I think she wanted to marry me by the time that trip was done ;)

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    4. Re:Use the opportunity properly by puppyfox · · Score: 1

      People up there have no idea how to make pizza. Go near Naples, that's the real stuff. Light and not oily, I can eat two!

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    5. Re:Use the opportunity properly by ballwall · · Score: 1

      There's a *lot* of time at sea when cruising, especially on a trip like this. What's the difference between that and sitting on campus? Below I made a comment that specifically recommends against worrying about it in port.

      The ship is a definitely a totally new and cool environment... for the first week or so. Then it's just your new home, and at home, I'd really like internet.

    6. Re:Use the opportunity properly by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      I went to Pizza Hut in Quito once, and it was definitely an experience. Up until that point I had never come across the concept of chocolate and strawberry pizza.

    7. Re:Use the opportunity properly by v1 · · Score: 1

      the server proceeded to pour about 1/2 cup of olive oil over the whole thing

      Be thankful. Could have been on the laptop instead...

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    8. Re:Use the opportunity properly by Necron69 · · Score: 1

      "DOn't be one of those fools that travel halfway around the world to sit in a McDonalds or an internet cafe."

      Bah. After 10 days in China a couple of years ago, the first thing I did upon arriving in San Francisco was to get a big cheeseburger and a COLD Coke.

      In another cool twist, I actually bought a coffee at the now closed Forbidden City Starbucks!

      Foreign travel is great and I highly recommend it, but you just might appreciating things at home a bit more afterwards.

    9. Re:Use the opportunity properly by scld · · Score: 1

      Let's be serious here. The only real pizza is New Haven style pizza. If you haven't had it, do yourself a favor and try some out. If Pepe's is busy, try Sally's.

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    10. Re:Use the opportunity properly by jamstar7 · · Score: 1
      Nuts.

      Athens Pizza on Lorain in Cleveland made the best pizza on the planet. One of the few things I miss about Cleveland.

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    11. Re:Use the opportunity properly by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      Yuck. Lived in New Haven longer than anyone should and was dragged to both places countless times. The only true pizza is Chicago-style deep dish. That New Haven stuff is almost as disgustingly burned and greasy as the crap they serve in Italy.

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    12. Re:Use the opportunity properly by earlymon · · Score: 1

      I think this sums up what you're referring to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpMkRIXhLH0

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    13. Re:Use the opportunity properly by ozbird · · Score: 1

      Try Sven's Viking Pizza in Bondi Junction, Sydney, Australia. Perfect thin crust, delicious toppings. Best pizza I've ever had.

    14. Re:Use the opportunity properly by BradleyAndersen · · Score: 1

      Here, here!

    15. Re:Use the opportunity properly by Neanderthal+Ninny · · Score: 1

      Well, Italian pizza, has it regions also (like the US with New York and Chicago, etc) so you had some of the more "oily" pizza in that area. Some other areas in Italy have other versions of pizza and they have more localized flavors and toppings.

    16. Re:Use the opportunity properly by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 2, Funny

      Forget about the internet, email, wikipedia etc.They'll all still be there when you're done.

      I dunno about that...

      HTML will have been entirely replaced with Flash applications. E-mail will have been completely over-run with spam (rather than just totally, as things are now). All ISPs will employ traffic shaping to the point that downloading the latest Knoppix image will take forever. And if Jimmy Wales' recent plea is to be believed, Wikipedia will be gone, probably sold to Microsoft.

      I was only gone for a little over a year, and I did note ALL these things when I got back online.

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    17. Re:Use the opportunity properly by glittalogik · · Score: 1

      So they decided to show everyone that they don't know how to make pizza instead?

      This has been an ongoing issue for decades. My mother told me that the worst pizza she ever had in her life was in Rome in the '60s.

    18. Re:Use the opportunity properly by magarity · · Score: 1

      DOn't be one of those fools that travel halfway around the world to sit in a McDonalds
       
      It's easy to say that from the consumer food safety haven of a western developed nation but once you're here in China, it's quite another thing to look at the 'A' rating poster from the health ministry in the window of the nice clean McDonalds and no poster at all in the excruciatingly dingy and squallid local place next door. Once you realise you don't have the immunity to local germs that the inhabitants spent their lives developing, it's hard to sneer at McD's.

    19. Re:Use the opportunity properly by glowimperial · · Score: 1

      If you're going on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity like this then why waste the time doing internet stuff that you can do for the rest of your life.

      Use the opportunity wisely. Soak up the new experiences. DOn't be one of those fools that travel halfway around the world to sit in a McDonalds or an internet cafe.

      Forget about the internet, email, wikipedia etc.They'll all still be there when you're done.

      I couldn't agree more. This is an opportunity to use your time differently than you do outside the program. That experience is what you'll learn more about both yourself and the world from.

    20. Re:Use the opportunity properly by darinfp · · Score: 1

      ... and people laughed at you for using Windows. Because the year of linux on the desktop happened while you were banging exchange students on a boat!

    21. Re:Use the opportunity properly by Askmum · · Score: 1

      I was almost going to say that Americans have no taste whatsoever (which is not surprising, seeing that they have no cuisine), but I'm glad that you at least liked the pasta.

    22. Re:Use the opportunity properly by xtracto · · Score: 1

      You are wrong

      The innovation which gave us the particular flat bread we call âoepizzaâ was the use of tomato as a topping. For some time after the tomato was brought to Europe from the Americas in the 16th century, it was believed by many Europeans to be poisonous (as are some other fruits of the nightshade family). However, by the late 18th century it was common for the poor of the area around Naples to add tomato to their yeast-based flat bread, and so the pizza was born. The dish gained in popularity, and soon Pizza became a tourist attraction as visitors to Naples ventured into the poorer areas of the city in order to try the local speciality.

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    23. Re:Use the opportunity properly by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      Hounddogs Pizza in Columbus, OH. The greatest, and most unhealthy, pizza you could ever behold.

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      - E. Debs
    24. Re:Use the opportunity properly by scoot80 · · Score: 1

      Try Arthur's pizza too. Bondi Junction, close to the train station.

  69. Absolutely - BGAN by DwySteve · · Score: 2, Informative
    This is my job. Let me help. What you're looking for is BGAN - Broadband Global Area Network. It uses Inmarsat satellites to provide ~500Kbps broadband anywhere in the world. Assuming you have at least a 12VDC/10A power source (think car cigarette lighter) and a computer with some form of ethernet (wired OR wireless!) you're set.

    Check out this link here: Airtime pricing and this link: Equipment Rental. That's not the exact unit I've worked with (I have a Hughes 9250 tracking BGAN antenna sitting right to my left at the moment) but it should do ya.

    Let me break the cost down for you approximately:
    • $550/month equipment rental * 4 months = $2200
    • Shipping of the unit to your location: $60 + return shipping $60 = $120
    • Airtime: MINIMUM of $500, probably more

    Total:$2820 for four months of basic internet anywhere in the world.
    In conclusion: what you want is not cheap at all. I suggest you man up and keep a journal - you know, paper?

    --
    http://angryee.blogspot.com
    1. Re:Absolutely - BGAN by wrschaeffer · · Score: 1

      Note: you need power at the location you are going to place the terminal... it's not going to work in your cabin and you can't run cables on the ship. Also, the unit you presented is crappy on ships... I piloted it on multiple vessels and when the seas get rough you're going to lose sync. BGAN is not an option for a college kid on a ship that he doesn't own.

    2. Re:Absolutely - BGAN by DwySteve · · Score: 1

      Of course not - it's just to show that the level of service we come to expect is unreasonably expensive and unwieldy away from where you live. And unless you have a pretty good tracking antenna you will always lose sync in rough weather (another part of my job is to create tracking algorithms for satellite receivers, we make them for the military and they're not cheap).

      --
      http://angryee.blogspot.com
  70. Unlimited email? No attachments? Good enough. by adolf · · Score: 1

    There's still lots of ways to access stuff online via email.

    FTP by mail, web browsing by mail, so on, so forth. It will take some experimentation to find out which (if any) of these services are able to avoid using MIME attachments and just uuencode files into the body of the message. And then, it's still a quick Perl hack away for you or a geekier friend to produce a filter turns MIME attachments into inlined uuencode...

    I used to do this a long time ago, with (of all things) dial-up WWIVnet. Send a carefully-prepared email, wait a few days, get the data you've asked for. I imagine it's probably a great deal quicker than that these days.

  71. Ideas from a sailor by wrschaeffer · · Score: 1

    You have the option of using a phone/internet prepaid calling card available through a number of vendors. The vendors work with INMARSAT so that all of the charges go to your card and not to the vessel. Look for companies like GlobeWireless, Vizada, Singtel and others to see what they offer. However, for getting online⦠the type of satcom equipment onboard will strongly impact your abilities. If they are offering internet you can bet that it's going to be slow (less than 128k but probably 64). And that's usually SHARED with all the ships in your footprint so your speeds are usually in the 20's. While there are dedicated ISDN channels and newer broadband packages using the FB500 or VSAT terminals these are usually more expensive to install and maintain and have higher per-minute charges so you may not find these fat pipes onboard your ship. I'm not sure about wi-fi that people mention... you're not going down the Mississippi are you? You won't get wifi except right near shore anyway. HF? You don't have a license and the ship is not going to allow you to install equipment. ABS regulations aren't going to allow your to run cables or penetrate Class A bulkheads either so the folks mentioning that are clueless. My recommendation (as an 18 year career sailor and IT professional) is to stick with phone calls. You'll get more 'content' via a phone call than spending your money trying to upload data. When you get to port you can usually find some sort of café to do any internet surfing you may need. And like some people have said... you are on a ship. Get off the damn internet, quick blogging about every fart you make and enjoy the ride.

  72. 1998 eclipse from MS Statendam by wrench+turner · · Score: 1

    In 1998 my friend Bernie and I took a cruise on Holland America's MS Statendam to view the solar eclipse off the coast of Curacao. We planned to broadcast a live webcam over the internet. The ship radio charges would have been charged by the time that we kept the radio busy, not bandwidth or "connect" time. The Statendam radio man agreed to let us use the radio for free because it would have been very expensive. Twice we spent hours rehearsing, trying to call my dialup Netcom account, but I failed. We had radio problems, modem problems and ISP problems.

    I understand that ham radio operators can probably lend you a lot of help. I guess you should get a license and get up to speed.

    Be wary of your location when making a ship-to-shore internet connection. Some countries consider it a serious crime.

  73. Link by XanC · · Score: 1

    There's no content on the page you linked to. There's only a reference to some binary object; no text, no links.

    1. Re:Link by neomunk · · Score: 1

      Link worked for me.

  74. Kids these days... by Jupiter+Jones · · Score: 1

    Four months? Bah. I went for about 20 years without internet access, and I survived just fine.

    JJ

  75. Twitter? by gameres · · Score: 1

    You might want to check out twitter.com. It has low bandwidth and works using mail and sms messages. You'll have to pare down on photos but it would be good to send snapshots and links to where you currently are. Chances are the 100 minutes are for usig their PCs. (You might not get WLAN or laptop access for your machine. There's probably a business center where you'll have to do everything. That being said do take a vacation from the net. If this is a good cruise you'll be too busy for sending hourly updates to the blog. :0

  76. Hamradio - PACTOR and WinLink2000 by sp5qan · · Score: 1

    Get hamradio operator with multimode HF trx and Pactor modem. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PACTOR and http://www.winlink.org/ Working email at any place.

  77. Cut & Paste by XanC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just include the uuencoded text in the body then.

  78. Nobody mentions mail? by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Do not underestimate the value of snail mail in a situation like this.

    --
    -fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
  79. postcards by amigabill · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've heard tales of an ancient form of communication that used small slabs of tree fiber carried by occasionally tempermental human beings. You can use an antiquated stylus-like device, which instead of selecting icons or doing script recognition on touchscreens of today, they leave behind a quasi-permanent colored marking on the tree fiber substrate, and these glyphical markings can serve to contain the message you would like to send. These tree fiber substrates are capable of including graphic attachments on one side, and hte mesage on the opposite side of the slab. They are often pre-encoded with a selection of graphics to choose from, and sometimes you can create a substrate encoded with a graphic of your own creation using a device able to translate your digital imagery files into the pigmentious container format which is compatible with the wood fiber slab. You will likely need to include a second attachment to these messages, in the form of a second, but smaller slab of wood fiber, a kind of wood-fiber-slab tax which the occasionally tempermental human transporters require, without this second attachment file then you risk your message and other attachments being lost in a sort of delivery black hole. You may have to search for an acceptable terminal which is compatible with sending messages in this format, and these terminals may not always be available to you. But the ancients once used such laughable methods with great success, so it may be somewhat usable for you as well.

    1. Re:postcards by catbertscousin · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the wood-fiber-slab tax attachments are collectible, particularly from the more exotic locations you will be visiting.

      --
      No good deed goes unpunished. - Avon, Blake's 7
    2. Re:postcards by Curmudgeonlyoldbloke · · Score: 1

      ... and if that doesn't work he can stick all his photos and blog posts on a micro-sd card, tape it to the postcard, and get someone to update his blog remotely.

  80. Being prior US Navy... by cyberjock1980 · · Score: 1

    Being a former sailor I have personal experience with this issue. Bottom line, it sucks. There are very few options available to you, aside from setting up your own system. The idea of wget might work the best, but you would always be waiting for that reply email. The idea of some kind of HAM system is another good idea. I've heard there are HAM systems set up that are used for internet for wide areas and are used during hurricanes, earthquakes, etc.

    Opening web pages with internet that comes in and out(as the waves rock the ship back and forth) is almost impossible. There's ALOT of packet loss and basic timeouts. I'm talking sometimes as high as 50% packet loss, and latency over 2500ms. Honestly, if you can design a system to interact via email, that's your best option because your emails will always get to you... eventually. Downloading a webpage that times out means reloading the page, where the same problem will probably haunt you again and again. Find as many web pages as you can that have as few pictures as possible(that's what will kill your surfing abilities). You want webpages that utilize as few data connections as possible.

    Even downloading a 10MB file on the ship while underway was completely out of the question. You were lucky if you could actually view the whole page. If you want files emailed to you and you can't accept attachments, look into something similar to what newsgroups uses. The yEnc(or whatever the common ones are) would come in handy here.

    I just accepted that I wasn't going to get my slashdot addiction satisfied while underway. I had my g/f email me the slashdot articles sometimes, or whatever stuff she found on cnn.com that she thought I'd like.

    Good luck and enjoy your cruise!

  81. 600 college kids on a boat for a semester? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'd say your biggest concern will be how you will procure enough penicillin for that voyage.

  82. Re:OT: Sig comment. by Shakrai · · Score: 1

    But, then again Anti Obama people also demonstrate Cult like behavior as well.

    Maybe you should just narrow it down to 'all partisans show cult like behavior'?

    I used to think that the easiest way to kill off Dailykos would have been for George W. Bush to come out and endorse breathing oxygen. Half of that site would have suffocated themselves out of sheer spite ;)

    Partisans of all political stripes scare the hell out of me.

    --
    I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
    We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
  83. No problem by blueg3 · · Score: 1

    You have unlimited access to e-mail?

    Design or reuse protocols that push X over e-mail. Back in the day, services would essentially perform FTP or HTTP over e-mail. You don't need attachments -- uuencode data and use or create your own in-email attachment description. (This was done before attachment handling was standardized in mail clients.) E-mail size is not a problem, simply chop data up into less-than-1-MB pieces and rejoin them at the other end. (This is still done with newsgroups.) Set up your own server that is not limited to respond to your by-mail queries.

    All of your problems have been solved in the past. :-)

  84. Internet by email by griffjon · · Score: 1

    Keyhole and compuserv jokes aside, there's a long tradition of methods to access the Internet via email, with (at least, 10+ years ago) some good systems set up. You might browse http://www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access-via-email/ and see what's still available.

    --
    Returned Peace Corps IT Volunteer
  85. URL Wash by ACMENEWSLLC · · Score: 1

    Google search URL Wash. I have this as an AJAX control on my iGoogle. It lets you view a page with just the text and links. No graphics.

    This could save you a lot on bandwidth usage on pages where you are really only after the text content.

  86. How Long at Sea? by hemp · · Score: 1, Informative

    IIRC, you will be at sea for 1 day and in port for 7. There are plenty of internet cafe's in Europe and you could adjust to having to study for 1 entire day without an internet connection.

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  87. No sex at sea? Pish-posh! by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 1

    The traditional way of sailors dealing with . . . things, since man first started traversing the waters

    Not in every culture. Look up the origin of the phrase "son of a gun." A couple of hundred years ago,some (especially British) warships used to bring pro-hos along for the ride. The gun deck, outside of battle, was usually deserted. You should be able to put the rest together for yourself.

  88. Posterous for blogging by mail by guruz · · Score: 1

    Have not tried it myself, but it gets "hyped" right now, it might be good: http://posterous.com/

  89. DIY? by jrmcdaniel · · Score: 1

    Mobile Satellite Internet might be an option depending on the coverage and finding a place on-board with a view of the sky. Heck, they even have suitcase models.

  90. Satellite Phone by LordEd · · Score: 1

    You didn't specify if money was an issue. If not, what about a satellite phone?

    http://www.iridium.com/products/product.php?linx=0350

    Not fast, but works anywhere. The Globalstar network would also have data modems, but their coverage isn't as extensive as Iridium (lacks in southern areas and some ocean areas.

  91. Become an entrepeneur, of course by eudaemon · · Score: 1

    No one yet has suggested that you bring your own PC and wireless hub!
    Think of the all the crap you could sell!

    1) E-mail addresses
    2) Nethack
    3) IRC
    4) Blogs

    If you wanna go high tech get a pico cell and sell everyone SMS access so they can text each
    other or twit (via your twitter) clone.

    Just because you aren't addicted to the net is no reason to not sell access to your simulacrum.

  92. You could.... by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    You could try to make a 1 meg attachment, and that could be the zip file containing all the text to all your friends in sms format, that could be sent to a central server, that ends up sending your text messages all at once.

    This of course would have to be done, although I think the software already exists on sourceforge

  93. tumblr by tthomas48 · · Score: 1

    Tumblr blogs are great for updating without using an actual web interface. We used them for a 24-hour play festival. We had a photographer emailing pictures in, we used twitter to add blog updates. We were going to roll our own, but tumblr had pretty much everything we needed.

  94. kindle by delvsional · · Score: 1

    If the cruise ship has a sprint network on board, a kindle would give you access to wikipedia and e-mail. It even has a primitive web browser. since it's a kindle all the wireless charges were included in the price of the device.

    --
    Oh Crap, I'm an optimist.....
  95. Think outside the bottle by thethibs · · Score: 1

    Pool your minutes with other students, minimize redundant messages. Where you are, big shipboard events, etc only have to be posted once.

    Put everything on a thumb drive ready for upload to your favourite social network and borrow online time when you hit port.

    Focus on the purpose of the cruise and use your minutes for emergencies.

    --
    I'm a Programmer. That's one level above Software Engineer and one level below Engineer.
  96. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but... by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about you forget about obsessively blogging every minute of the day and just, you know, enjoy the cruise. Maybe even socialize a bit.

    You never know, you might even end up talking to members of the opposite sex.

    --
    No sig today...
  97. WHAT?!?!? You're Worried about Internet Access??? by zentec · · Score: 2


    You're going to be away at sea for four months with a bunch of college-aged people of the opposite sex, visiting exotic locations and all you can think about is internet access?

    I know it's cliche, I know it's oh-so-70's, but does the term "Love Boat" mean anything to you?

  98. Re:No sex at sea? Pish-posh! by gardyloo · · Score: 1

    Perhaps. The OED first has the phrase used in 1708, but not "explained" as due to being conceived or born on a gun-deck until 1867.

  99. I am a merchant seaman by moogsynth · · Score: 1

    Internet cafes are useful, but beware: many European internet cafes use completely gimped terminals that srsly affect your ability to do anything useful at all, except browse. I went to some place in Hamburg once that denied me access to gmail, I mean, wtf. If you happen to be calling anyplace in China, then you can pick up extremely cheap USB dongles with SIM cards that apparently allows pretty good access--some even work in other places. I've never bought one, but I have used one to talk on Skype for over five hours before.

  100. Re:No sex at sea? Pish-posh! by gardyloo · · Score: 1

    Regardless, thanks for the lesson! Hanging out with native Chinese has really opened my eyes as to the vagaries of languages, and how ensconced they are in shared experiences, and how clueless outsiders may be to the meanings of non-literal phrases.

  101. By yourself a nicely bounded vellum book... by Angostura · · Score: 1

    Then get yourself a fountain pen and a bottle of ink. A small watercolour box, and some good brushes.

    KIll the idea of the Blog and instead do a proper log. Create a little work of art that you will be able to look back on in 20 years time. It'll be much cooler. Really.

  102. There a plenty of non-Ham, non-INMARSAT options by mco · · Score: 1

    There are plenty of Internet and Email at sea options that don't require the cost of INMARSAT nor an amateur radio (ham) license. AFAIK, they do require the vessel to have a marine HF license, but your boat may already have one. They all use HF radio to move data around and should be enough to update a blog or get emails, but don't expect real-time interaction. Check these out: - SailMail (sailmail.com) - XNet (xnetmail.com) - Global Link (gln-network.com) - Globe Wireless (globewireless.com) - CruiseEmail (cruiseemail.com) --mco

  103. Business major? by peterofoz · · Score: 1
    Hmm. A supply and demand problem. Hmmm.

    How much does a SATphone cost? Could you set up a private enterprise cafe on board? Would students pay for extra time?

    Actually, have fun and meet people in person.

  104. Alumni advice by Song0330 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Welcome to the club! I'm a Spring 07 alum, and probably the biggest geek onboard during my voyage. Although all the ideas presented here are interesting, you want to be realistic: Satellite internet coverage is expensive, and using your phone as a internet device can rack up global charges very quickly. (I work for a cell phone company and you have no idea how many times I run into bills with thousands of global charges) If you're a true addict like me, you can purchase more internet time through the purser's desk on the ship. It is EXTREMELY expensive ($250 for 400 minutes I believe) and slow as hell. The only time you get a decent speed is when everyone is sleeping (and not hogging the bandwidth), making even VOIP possible. I accrued $2500 in internet charges on my AmEx that took me a few months to pay back. (I have an excellent job that pays my tuition, so it wasn't a huge deal for me) The other real option, that everyone will be doing, is to visit internet cafes in port during your downtime. There isn't a whole lot of downtime when you're exploring a foreign country on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, but when there is (ex. immediately after a field excursion, waiting to depart from an hotel/airport, recovering from a big lunch, etc), internet cafes around the world are very inexpensive. Just be careful of all the malware/keyloggers that could be on there - bring along a USB drive with a secure brower or a bootable OS CD if you'll be doing anything important (like checking your bank statement). Check out my voyage blog http://www.alexsong.com/sasblog/

    1. Re:Alumni advice by Song0330 · · Score: 1

      And that was my first Slashdot comment ever; please pretend there are paragraph breaks present.

  105. Change yer ways matey! Arrrgh! by ElmoGonzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You're going to have to adapt to what sounds like a connectionless environment -- or at least one that's more like having a 1200K dial up modem atmosphere. I'd suggest exploring older technologies not even excluding print and snail mail. My first thought was uuencode which I used successfully to ship megabyte files to and from a site that was literally half-way around the globe and had nothing but dial up access with a 20K limit on each email (no attachments). We would begin with a zip archive then uuencode the archive and send the emails. On receipt the first email was the input to uudecode which could follow the chain to the end and reconstruct the original zip. It sometimes took a few days but that was far faster than sneaker net via floppy diskette and air mail.

  106. McDonald's no, internet cafe, maybe by Kludge · · Score: 1

    DOn't be one of those fools that travel halfway around the world to sit in a McDonalds or an internet cafe.

    I'll agree w/ your statement on McD's but not necessarily on internet cafes. Many internet cafes have a lot of character. The seediest ones are the most interesting. You get to see what people in other countries are doing with their computers.

    That said, queue up the stuff that you want to send on your flash drive before you arrive, and download the stuff you want to read for the long boat ride later. Don't spend too much time there.

    1. Re:McDonald's no, internet cafe, maybe by GoCal92 · · Score: 1

      Actually, what you get to see is what other travelers are doing with their computers. In my experience, you don't see too many locals in the internet cafes, especially if you're in some backpackers' ghetto. I also don't agree that "seedy" = "character."

    2. Re:McDonald's no, internet cafe, maybe by DriveMelter · · Score: 1

      If you can get hold of the people who have previously been on this experience then you should be able to find out where the internet cafes are. Take a cheap laptop, write your emails offline and queue them up for posting. Got to cafe exchange emails then go off to do the interesting things in that port. In advance you could also create a site for people to list which internet cafe's have good facilities with maps and details of how to get there from the port.

  107. Agora web client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Back in 1994/1995 I used to browse the web via email. There was a service called "Agora" which worked like this, more or less: You'd send email to agora@xxx.yyy.edu (can't remember the address) with lines like "GET http://xxx.yyy.com". You'd get the html or text in an email reply. Perhaps you can dig out the agora software (or rewrite it) and set it up in a server somewhere.

    1. Re:Agora web client by pfunes · · Score: 1

      Hey, I found an old mbox with samples of Agora usage, it looked like this:

      Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 23:28:24 +0500
      From: agora@www10.w3.org
      Subject: Document requested (was: no subject (file transmission)) (URL: http://www.med.harvard.edu/programs/.index.html)

      To get help, just send a mail with the body WWW
      Please mail to agora-bug@mail.w3.org if you have a problem

                            Harvard Medical Area Institutions, Programs and
      Departments
            Harvard School of Public Health[1]

                  Department of Biostatistics[2]

            Harvard Medical School and Affiliated Hospitals[3]

                  Harvard Biophysics Program[4]
      [...]

  108. Meatspace by h3llfish · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Perhaps you should be a bit less concerned about the internets for a while. It's just one semester. Your friends and family will be there when you return. Well, most of them.

    I advise (since you asked) that you spend a lot less time thinking about the technological challenges of life at sea, and a lot more time thinking about the social challenge of getting into the pants of your schoolmates (or instructors, if the mood strikes). You're only going to be young once. There will be lots of time for techie fussing later.

    Live, damn you... LIVE!!! That's the true educational value of a semester at sea.

    1. Re:Meatspace by infonote · · Score: 1

      I agree that you should try and forget internet. However if you cannot for reasons I do not know I suggest the following: Get a mobile phone with a contract (3G phone). You will then be able to connect through your mobile to send email or update a blog. BTW. I suggest you use Twitter. You can update your status through SMS. You are limited to 140 characters so you will be to the point. In this way you will be able to update relatives and friends. Good luck. The sea is great.

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  109. Never did a fishing boat on the high seas by gatkinso · · Score: 1

    But I have sailed from San Fran to Hawaii, Annapolis to Bermuda, Rhode Island, and Florida, and delivered a 19 foot sail boat from Nort Carolina to New Jersey. Plus I spent a few weeks on a Navy destroyer at sea as a contractor supporting missile defense tests.

    Now, that is not dodging crab pots and hooks on 35 foot swells while freezing my ass off, but it is enough to say that yes, indeed, SaS sounds like heaven.... esp the unplugged part.

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    I am very small, utmostly microscopic.
  110. What about rsync and local blog copy? by marknmel · · Score: 1

    Rsync can be a quick way to copy data, and supports compression and deltas. Run a local mysql db to support your blog, and rsync the db to your server. You may wish to do just a text version to avoid images.

    1. Re:What about rsync and local blog copy? by dargaud · · Score: 1
      In such a situation you may have no control on the computer (been there done that): the email will be sent by a unique set of computers on which you are a limited user, to a local server which connects twice a day to the outside. No way you can run rsync, even if you manage to install it on your limited account.

      I managed to work around it by putting a subset of cygwin on a USB key (rsync, ssh and appropriate DLLs) with the site to update and a script, but the most important part was sweet talking the communication officer to plug it in and start the batch job while the email up/downlink was in progress. In other words, the hack relied on social engineering, as usual.

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  111. You don't need Inet. Or a computer. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    Seriously. You don't need an Inet uplink. Or a computer. You *might* want to take one if it makes the books you need easyer to carry (read: in digital form).
    Use the space you'd need for an outdoor computer for other usefull stuff. Like a camera, something to read or survival stuff.
    The time on this trip will be over in no time. If you absolutely must, take a portable with solar panels along and do some coding.
    Otherwise just write a diary. With a pen and paper.

    --
    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  112. (1.) wifi directional antenna (2.) sat-phone sub. by syn1kk · · Score: 1

    Two options: (1.) wifi directional antenna (2.) sat-phone sub.

    Option 1:
    My advice is to get a nice directional wifi antenna. That way when you are in a port you can easily snoop the port for open wifi networks and get free internet. I will list three antennas of interest. They are ordered from best to worst gain ( dBi i.e. how much the antenna amplifies a weak signal )... or in terms of least to most practical ( i.e. how large the antenna is... do you have to mount it ).
    (a.) 9 dBi gain, 6x3x3 inches, needs mounting, http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21852
    (b.) 8 dBi, 4.5x4.5x1 inches, needs flat wall, http://www.l-com.com/productfamily.aspx?id=6300
    (c.) 5 dBi, 6.5x1.0x0.2 inches, attaches to the back of a laptop, http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21330

    I kind of like the smallest one the most because the datasheet shows it being attached to the back of laptop

    ---

    Option 2:
    Sign up for a sat-phone service that serves your part of the globe. Try: Inmarsat/ISat, Thuraya. You might be able to get a DECENT rate on a data plan. Expect a high price for any satellite access.

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    I am really interested in how it works out! At some point I plan on sailing around the world! So I would like to know what happens.

    Sincerely,
    Trevor

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    p.s. if you REALLY want to be cool go with one of the parabolic wifi antennas! Like this small 14 dBi, 10x10 inch http://www.l-com.com/productfamily.aspx?id=6150 parabolic

  113. Define Internet Access by Stratoukos · · Score: 1

    As I see it you have unlimited in/out emails.

    So for example you could open an image with a plain text editor, send whatever is in there via email in 1mb chunks and whoever receives the emails can make a new file, paste the text you send him and see the image.

    I'm not a programmer but I think that it wouldn't be impossible to automate the process in both sides, ie a server that upon receiving a link loads the page and then sends back the text/images/whatever in 1mb chunks and another on your pc that opens all these emails, merges them together and fianlly display them to you.

    In the same context you could make a program that upon receiving a link updates your blog or whatever else you like.

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  114. Blog updatable by email by dargaud · · Score: 1

    In a similar situation as the original poster, I'm also looking for a blogging software (preferably Php) that can be updated by email. I should set up a specific email account, then the blog software connects to it via POP3 regularly and publishes what is received, in particular image attachments. Anyway that's the idea. Anybody has recommendations ?

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  115. T-Mobile Global Plan + Smartphone by guru42101 · · Score: 1

    Probably won't have much access at sea but when you get into port you can shove off a few emails and browse the web. I'd personally recommend a Blackberry.

  116. Escargot, not the best example... by rHBa · · Score: 1

    What you're wanting to do is like ordering escargot in a French restaurant and smothering them in ketchup.

    Of course escargot aren't that mush of a delicacy, the garlic sauce is there to cover up the taste of the snails (it does the same job as the ketchup) so I'd say a better analogy would be it's like ordering steak tartare "bien cuit".

  117. access via email by nedlohs · · Score: 1

    The chances of it all still being active isn't high, but: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access-via-email/

  118. satellite by Spazmania · · Score: 1

    Iridium is the obvious answer. It's an LEO satellite system. That means the satellites fly low in the sky, at an altitude of around 500 miles. So, you don't need a directional antenna to reach it. It's also visible from everywhere on earth. Downside: expensive per minute and oh so painfully slow (2400 baud. Call it 10% of a modern modem).

    http://iridiumclassic.com/service/iri_service-detail.asp?serviceid=18&method=direct2

    While in port, you may be able to use a set of normal satellite Internet services like Dish. Faster. Cheaper. But it communicates with geostationary orbit at an altitude of 26,000 miles. This means you're hauling a great big dish onto the deck and spending 10 or 20 minutes aiming it before you can use it, and then you only have a prayer of success while actually in port where the ship's movement is, if you're lucky, within the fraction of a degree tolerance for the dish's aim. Also, each geostationary satellite system has a earthside footprint that it can see. You'd have evaluate which satellite systems reach which footprints where you're going to be.

    http://www.mybluedish.com/

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  119. solution for the pics by quickOnTheUptake · · Score: 1

    As to sending pictures something like this might be a solution

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  120. He gets more than that by charleste · · Score: 4, Informative

    I checked out the SAS website, and they say "Email Service and Internet Access - Participants can access web-based email accounts, such as Yahoo, AOL, Hotmail, etc. The technology fee charged to all students and lifelong learners provides 125 minutes of Internet access. Internet usage beyond 125 minutes will incur a charge on a per minute basis." So, he doesn't get cut off after 100 minutes. He gets 125 minutes, but he can pay for more. It's not as bad as he makes out.

    1. Re:He gets more than that by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      Elsewhere on that site it notes that additional minutes cost around 40 cents each, which is pretty darn expensive, although not completely unreasonable given the costs of satellite communications.

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    2. Re:He gets more than that by crossmr · · Score: 1

      if it were me, I would insist on my 125 free minutes being run when no one else was using the service. its unlikely the university is going to be dropping insane money to provide massive bandwidth to students at sea, so half a dozen students or so online at once could really make those 125 minutes crawl.

    3. Re:He gets more than that by Neanderthal+Ninny · · Score: 1

      Satellite is only way to go if you need coverage far away from land. If you can live on internet while the ship is near land and can get a local landbased network connection then you can skip this expensive resource. However it does take a awhile between ports in the ocean so if your itenery allows enough time for you to surf the internet and you consider the cost of the satellite connection then try these:
      http://www.outfittersatellite.com/bgan_overview.htm
      http://www.globalcomsatphone.com/services.html

    4. Re:He gets more than that by JakartaDean · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Their web sits also says "Ports of Call:
      • Nassau, Bahamas
      • Cadiz, Spain
      • Casablanca, Morocco
      • Walvis Bay, Namibia
      • Cape Town, South Africa
      • Port Louis, Mauritius
      • Chennai, India
      • Laem Chabang (Bangkok), Thailand
      • Ho Chi Minh City, Viet Nam
      • Hong Kong / Shanghai, China
      • Kobe / Yokohama, Japan
      • Honolulu, Hawaii
      • Puerto Quetzal, Guatemala
      • (Antigua, Guatemala City)
      • Transiting of Panama Canal
      • Fort Lauderdale, Florida"

      Why do I think getting online should be a lower priority? That sounds like the trip of a lifetime, even without 300 or so females in their late teens / early 20s.

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  121. "Attachments": Don't piss off the admin by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    I've seen several suggestions for avoiding the "no attachments" rule by sending base64-encoded data in plain text. This is essentially the same thing as a normal email attachment apart from some content-type headers.

    Note that if your network admin really means "no email attachments" to indirectly limit your size, then saying "oh I know, I'll just send the whole thing as text/plain instead of multipart/related" is a technicality, and you should not be surprised if someone gets annoyed once they catch on. If they actively monitor your quota instead of blindly filtering out by header and size, they well might.

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  122. GPRS/UMTS by Bootarn · · Score: 1

    If you can afford it, and I stress that, use a GPRS/UMTS enabled phone when close to port. It would be rather expensive, since you'll probably use a lot of carriers.

    The phone bill may come as a shock.

  123. Re:Purchase and install a satellite terminal by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

    Get the cruise line to install a descent high-speed internet antenna. Cost for a super-fancy rig, (specifically, a 2.4meter C-band steerable stabilized antanna) installed, is about $150,000, and Bandwidth and service charges are not cheap. However, this is one heck of a lot cheaper than the setup they currently have (which sounds like old-fashioned Inmarsat.)

    ROFLMAO.

    "So, hi guys, this semester at sea thing. Sounds all cool and that... but I am a net addict. So how about you shlepp out a hundred and fifty grand and help a brother out?"

  124. sad. by EvilSheep · · Score: 1

    well. I just think it is sad that people know so little about the history of their prime medium.

    uuencode, base64. wget.

    Thee have all been mentioned, but the ability to hack together means to send messages under any circumstances is our history. It is the way the internet was built.

    Is this really the state of geek culture? "How the hell do I do this?" rather than going out, looking things up and making it happen?

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  125. Do yourself a favor by sexybomber · · Score: 1

    Ditch the cake-eaters at Semester at Sea. Then apply to the Sea Education Association's Woods Hole Sea Semester. The former program is aboard a modified cruise ship. The latter, a fraking brigantine. Sailing, science, and some sex to boot.

    Also, SEA's not dumb enough to sail their ships in the Gulf of Alaska in February, a mistake SAS will fortunately never make again after their ship got bitch-slapped by a 50' rogue wave.

    (Why yes, I am an SEA alumnus, how did you guess?)

    1. Re:Do yourself a favor by ubergamer1337 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the advice, but I'm a history major not a oceanographer, and the interesting part of my voyage are the ports with tons of history (Istanbul, Alexandria, Hong Kong, Kyoto, etc.)

      The boat is just my way of getting there, not the point of the trip. Sea semester sounds awesome if your into boating however.

  126. Solutions. . . by Bagheera · · Score: 1

    I see a lot of people posting, but very few people actually trying to address your problem.

    The fact is when you're at sea you'll be away from any kind of reasonably priced internet service. It's just a fact. No land lines on the open ocean, and bi-directional sat service is expensive.

    Cruising sailors / powerboaters are usually stuck with either paying insane amounts for some kind of real time bi-directional satlink (which is what the ship has) or spending a lot less for some sort of Store and Forward satellite system.

    Another option open to cruisers is using HF radio and RTTY to send email around. Slow, but surprisingly reliable. That'd require either a marine HF, or a Ham Radio license, and the appropriate hardware.

    None of those may be an option for you.

    There is a product called Sailmail that might suit your needs. Essentially a little hand held device that has an accoustic coupler in it. Call into the server to send and receive your mail over any phone.

    Ultimately, I'll give you one piece of advice. Namely: For waht you need, forget Slashdot. You'll get more people talking about how many seconds a day 100 minutes works out to. Try something like the user forums over on Cruising World or any of the other cruising / sailing forums.

    Talk to people who actually know the subject matter at hand.

    Cheers,
    and enjoy the semester.
    Bagheera

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  127. Re:WHAT?!?!? You're Worried about Internet Access? by cavac · · Score: 1

    Think "Sex, Drugs and Rock'n'Roll". Well, drugs are probably not available and you're too young for Rock'n'Roll. So, that leaves just one thing...

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  128. Snail Mail? by FrankBlissett · · Score: 1

    Well, how about it?

    I understand the use of being connected, but really - is it absolutely needed?

    Will your family and friends feel cheated if they knew your photos were "really" taken a week ago?

    If you want to do a blog, you can get a friend stateside to post your letters/photos.

    -Frank

    ps: Good luck - sounds like the opertunity of a lifetime!

  129. You can do what I did... by FireStorm69 · · Score: 1

    I have my own website and being a PERL programmer, I wrote my own photo gallery script for my website. I then setup an email address just for my gallery.. Then I wrote another script that is run every 10 minutes from a cron job that logs into the email account, downloads any messages, deletes them and then posts them into the gallery. I used my cell phone to take pictures and from it, I would send my pics to that email address and within 10 minutes, it would be posted in the gallery, with the text of the message being its description.

    Now I set this up to be able to post any pics quickly and easily, however, it also works with standard email. You could just work offline and create a message for each picture and store them in your outbox. Then, when you do have access, you can send an entire batch at once. The coding is actually quite simple, and I would be willing provide you with my photo gallery script, I even wrote an auto installer for it. Just upload one file, set permissions and run it in your browser.

    Hope you find your solution.

  130. procmail is your friend by wayward_bruce · · Score: 1

    You can set up a *NIX box as your mail server with procmail handling the mail to a dedicated user account. Set up a procmail rule to act on the messages with the subject, say, "Simon says *insert_your_verification_token_here*" and sender's e-mail address matching that of yours. The body can be fed to anything, including bash, and results e-mailed back to you. But keep in mind that this solution isn't the most secure thing in the world :)

  131. Sail Mail by Professor+Fate · · Score: 1

    Cruising sailors have dealt with this problem for years. If you don't know, "cruising" is where you quit your job and live on a sailboat in the Caribean, spending your days mostly looking for food and booze. I am so jealous of these folks. Anyway, "Cruising World" magazine might have some ads. I've heard of Sailmail, but don't know how their services rate. Might be a place to start anyway.

    http://www.sailmail.com/

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  132. Just watch out for... by mitch_feaster · · Score: 1

    pirates.

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  133. Speaking from experience... by IonOtter · · Score: 1

    1. Before you lose access to high-speed, log into your email service and disable the "advanced" services and use HTML-based as your default. This is critical, especially for Gmail.

    2. While at sea, write all of your emails in notepad. At the top of each file, include the block of email addresses, separated by commas. Save them until you're ready to connect.

    3. Use FireFox with NoScript and AdBlock. Carry it with you on a USB key if you have to. Make sure you disable images, but check off "show image place holders"!!!

    4. When you sit down to connect, open all of your emails in an individual notepad window so you can copy pasta quickly.

    5. Connect, log in, start copying and pasting. You can send a LOT of emails in 2 minutes that way.

    Or you can enable POP3/SMTP access on your webmail, then use your own client. Just make sure to configure you webmail account before you leave. Using this sort of solution is best set up with a USB key using PortableApps.

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  134. NO ATTACHMENTS! UUE/base 64 are out! by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can also encode images into base64, don't know how big an image it would take before you hit the 1MB limit, but it's possible.

    No attachments. An attachment is just a UUE or base64 text block inside an e-mail; if attachments aren't allowed, those won't get through the mail server. Some other encoding method, as non-standard as possible, must be devised so that you can fly under the radar and TX/RX binaries as text.

    I have not-so-fond memories of being on the 'Net back in the late 1980s, and having to MANUALLY encode/decode UUE or base64 files. It was an absolute joy when the first e-mail clients with automatic UUE/base64 ("attachment") handling appeared.

    ROT13 a base64 and create a header which calls it "random text good luck charm 72" or something else? I dunno. Get creative. Hell, probably any filters on the mail server aren't all that sophisticated - they can't really look for anything more than fixed string lengths or UUE/base64 headers, as the actual data is pseudorandom. It might be as simple as deleting the header on send and recreating it on receive.

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    1. Re:NO ATTACHMENTS! UUE/base 64 are out! by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      Or, y'know, put the UUencoded attachment in the body of the email. No MIME section header or whatever. Or are servers really configured to sniff out stuff that looks like it's UUencoded?

      (Actual question, since I haven't worked with them to that extent.)

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  135. Really expensive by POttedPOrk · · Score: 1

    As someone who has spent time at sea on research ships and works with satellite communications on research ships for a living, I can say that it's really expensive once you get away from coastal waters. The US academic research fleet (UNOLS) didn't get full internet access until 2005 because of this, and even now it's very limited in terms of bandwidth compared to what you are used to in your mom's basement/dorm room.

    Near coast, you can use your cell phone, but once you get more than 50 miles offshore, your options quickly become limited and really expensive. You are at the mercy of various satellite operators, all of which charge you a pretty penny for the privilege of using their birds. The fact that most satellites are positioned to concentrate on populated areas (read: land) makes satellite connectivity in the middle of the ocean a very pricey commodity. This is why they charge you on a per-byte basis - C-band internet connectivity is typically a couple of thousand dollars US a month for a whopping 256 kilobits per second of bandwidth.

    With all of the nerdy stuff out of the way, the MV explorer looks like a really cush cruise ship rather than a research vessel so you probably won't get much of an "at sea" experience other than not being able to leave the ship between ports. Enjoy your active stabilization, swimming pool, and piano bar.

    For others considering time at sea, the Sea Education Association is the real deal. I've been aboard the SSV Robert C Seamans, their Pacific-based ship, and was kinda jealous that I never got to do something like that while I was in college. The students get a chance to climb the rigging and really sail the ship, rather than just being chauffeured around on a giant floating school bus. Additionally, you get to do some real science on their ships. Port stops in Tahiti and the Marquesas are tough to beat as well.

  136. Adhoc by JavaHead85 · · Score: 1

    Why not bring aboard couple of terabyte NAS drives, fill them with data, update/sync them at each port.

    Then create your own Adhoc network aboard the ship. (optional: charge other students to access the drives)
    You would take the term "Pirate" to a new level

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  140. Amateur Radio by johnthorensen · · Score: 1

    I like the comments I've seen to the effect that a little time away from the Internet might actually be a good thing. There's a well-known blogger (don't recall his name though) out there that specifically takes "unplugged vacations" to get away and gain a little perspective. That said, you might like looking into getting your amateur radio license before leaving. If conditions allow, you could use this to supplement your on-board access. There are of course caveats, not the least of which is the fact that data over HF is pretty damn slow. While not exactly web-browsing speed, you could manage to do a better job of keeping in contact via e-mail at least. From a practical standpoint, you would be surprised at the station you could run from your cabin. HF antennas are known for being really big, but there are plenty of compact designs out there and nothing beats good old saltwater as a ground plane. Amateur radio can of course be fun just as a hobby too, especially on a ship. You could have the opportunity to talk to some really neat people all around the world. It would be a great way to occupy your time should you find yourself bored between classes and getting laid -- just be sure not to show the girls your license or that'll never happen. It's worse than being tagged as a computer nerd :) Having your license may also allow you to build some comraderie with the ship's radio operators, with at least some possibility of fanagling some additional time :)

  141. Web In Mail by Ux64 · · Score: 1

    That FAQ you referred seems to be quite old (2002). But many of my friends in China following service. http://www.webinmail.com/webinmail/index.html Just send email to browse@webinmail.com and put url in subject field... In seconds you'll get email back with the web page of file which you requested. Very very handy in case direct browsing is limited for some reasons. Btw. It's easy way to get to pages from work which are otherwise blocked by corporate firewall.

  142. MTA Script by bWareiWare.co.uk · · Score: 1

    The answer obviously depends on how you interpret 'no attachments'. From a purely technical point of view many mail clients send messages bearing very little similarity to RFC attachments. From a more pragmatic point of view, if you are sending an encoded image then it is an attachment even if it is transmitted as text in the main mail body.

    I would try an comply with the spirit of the rule and forget about images. However blog posting and web page retrieval seem to comply with the spirit of the rule, whilst being very useful and none too hard to implement.

    My solution would be to configure a mail server (even Win Pro has one built in) to handle this. Write a script that takes all mail send to a specific address, checks its cryptographic signature and, if valid, saves the mail as a script and executes it, then emails you the stdout back. (If you even need to ask why checking the cryptographic signature is needed please don't do this).

    Web posting and reading ASCII rendered web pages can be handled with something like surfraw, or links.

    I did something smiler when my mobile phone provider gave me free IM.

  143. Posterous by ZZamboni · · Score: 1

    Posterous works quite well for posting to a blog over email. And it can also auto-post to twitter, flickr and other places.

  144. Free Internet - Just ride those broken cables by pythonhacker · · Score: 1

    If you are going to spend most of the time over the Mediterranean sea, you could ask your ship's captain to drop his anchor far down enough to make contact with those broken undersea Internet cables which were in the news recently.

    Once he does that (which must be easy, since ship captains seem to be doing it all the time these days), just connect a wire from the anchor cable to your laptop and voila! free Internet...

    If he is not able to connect to any existing broken cables, just ask him to break one for you. Bribe him with enough rum to last your entire browsing time...

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  145. Use thumb drives by Matt+Apple · · Score: 1

    Take a couple of those old thumb drives or flash memory cards you never use anymore, fill them with as many pictures as they can hold and then drop them in the mail when you come into port.

  146. Emailing Pictures by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 1

    Well, as far as emailing pictures, as long as they are small.. how about encoding them in ASCII art? I believe this was recently posted on /.

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  147. With 300 girls, you care about the internet...? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

    If you're "doin' it right"(tm), you should not even notice that there is no Internet, because the only tubes that you are going to see, will be on/in some of those 300 girls (or boys, it you like them instead)! :D

    Worry about the tube to put around that tube down there, and worry about the booze. That's all you need to worry about. At least if you still live. ;)

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