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Girl Claims Price Scanner Gave Her Tourette's Syndrome
Attorneys for Dominica Juliano claim that she was burned and developed psychological problems after a store clerk aimed a hand-held price scanner at her face. Store attorneys say their scanners uses a harmless LED light and that the girl had serious health problems before she was scanned. From the article: "Dominica Juliano was 12 when she and her grandmother entered the Country Fair store in Erie in June 2004. A clerk allegedly called the girl 'grumpy' before flashing his hand-held bar code scanner over her face and telling her to smile. Attorneys for Ms. Juliano and her guardian say the girl was sensitive to light and burned, and later developed post-traumatic stress and Tourette's syndrome."
"You're grumpy" *beep* OOOh...Sick burn!
The Judge that let this go to trial should be out of a job. Why waste the time of a jury and tax-dollars on such ridiculous claims?
'Attorneys for Ms. Juliano and her guardian say the girl was sensitive to light and burned, and later developed post-traumatic stress and Tourette's syndrome.'
To fix that: "Ms. Juliano and her guardian say the girl deserves a Million Billion Gazillion dolars (and that she [Ms. Juliano] should be trustee)."
Great minds think alike; fools seldom differ.
Easy to figure out, shoot her again and again to see if it still burns. Oh and never mind that Tourettes is an inherited neuropsychiatric disorder. Don't let a little thing like that stop you from filing a lawsuit though.
...just point a laser at the back of her head in court.
Some people have photosensitive epilepsy. Not saying that it's the cause here, but it's a possibility.
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results" - Winston Churchill
I'd be swearing about it as well. PTSD, however, is real and can be caused in all sorts of ways. But probably not from this.
Welcome to the land of the "owe, i hurt myself, lets blame who's near my so i don't look like an idiot"
this is obviously a grab for cash, when genetic disorders like this cannot instantly be created from a flash of light, if she had a pre existing condition, light sensitivity, then i doubt she's gonna get that cash she so hope she would, poor girl is probably stuck in the middle of the greed from her parents.
It's not a typo if you understood the meaning!
Who else wants to show up with a laser pointer?
I'm betting we can chase her away from entering the court house...
-- Terry
Maggie Simpson is going to have a terrible case of Tourette's after being scanned every week for the past ~20 years.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
The article doesn't explain that it was the combination of LEDs and WiFi that causes this psychological problem. That or vaccines plus violent video games.
Oh come now, AOL's terms of service don't extend to Slashdot. You're free to swear as much as you fucking like, cunt.
I rate your quaint troll as follows:
2/10
That is all.
... the cashier's behaviour was inappropriate. That's not how to treat a costumer.
Summary states:
but:
So the stupid girl is now 17 or 18, but apparently non the wiser. I really wonder why it took so long for their parents to get the idea that they might squeeze some money out of this stupid joke.
TFA does not say if the clerk was unhappy because the girl was grumpy or he was just trying to cheer her up (shock, horror). You on the other hand must be a riot at parties. You definitely showed what a grumpy cunt you are (oops, did I say that?), but hey don't let that dampen your sense of entitlement.
... are giving me Tourette's Syndrom. Can I sue?
Have gnu, will travel.
While the employees were obviously being annoying fucks, your response was much more obnoxious. I have a hard time feeling bad for the trouble they put you through, you sound like a real asshole to me.
Except the slashdot mobs are free to rate your swearing down as much as they like, if they swearing gets excessive...
Also, some of may have tourettes, and pick "-1 Redundant" at random; due to imagined repeated swear words.
Five years of working retail from 14-19 certainly taught me to hate the vast majority of humanity and swear like a sailor.
However, the good customers made up for the meager paycheck and the idiot boss.
A far simpler would have been to get gas somewhere else and call the owner of the place.
Burned by an LED?
What happens if she's exposed to direct sunlight? Presumably it causes her to burst into flame, being tens of thousands of times more energetic.
Go on tv with chris hansen!
She's lucky: if, instead of an LED she was exposed to a microwave and non-dairy creamer, she could've been turned into a mouse!
sic transit gloria mundi
priceless
Nullius in verba
That is what I did.
I do not care how sensitive to light you are, if you can survive outside and in a normally lighted room you will have no trouble with a price scanner.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
However, if she hadn't been subjected to the coherent beams of non-ionizing radiation, she would have developed touretts from something else innocuous, like a Bee that buzzes too close to her head, that set off the tics.
Generally touretts develops around that age, however it is more prevailent with boys.
I would suggest that if she really wants to get rid of them she should take up smoking. The Carcinigens in the cigarettes will likely the cells in her brain dispose her to ticing. It will make her a little bit stupider, but such is the price for being normal.
-Regards
Paying taxes gave me Tourette's Syndrome. While I'm writing the check I curse uncontrollably. I wonder if I should sue.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Did I just hear a collective banging of heads on desk from the science community?
Sometimes, lawsuits take a *long* time to get through the courts to the point where they're dismissed or resolved. Six years from incident to dismissal doesn't surprise me as much as I wish it did.
There's a book called "The True Stella Awards" by Randy Cassingham, which is full of documented court cases that waste time & money, set bad precedents, try to punish the wrong people, etc, and it's disheartening to see how long the process can take.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100414/NEWS02/304149909
Please? I'd award $1 - so that they can't appeal - they won, they got an award - now go away
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Probably he didn't want to be branded a racist. And most people can't tell a price scanner from a taser.
Damping absorbs vibrations. Dampening is caused by moisture.
Or that she is in her late teens and likely has the same disorder many kids that age seem to have nowadays, which is that the world is not handing them everything on a silver platter like Britney Spears and they are LIKE FUCKING REALLY PISSED OFF, LIKE FUCK, DUDE!
Her guardian better beware, if that money gets awarded to Ms Juliano, said guardian probably won't see any of it...
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At least, that's when I start swearing uncontrollably.
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Conclusion: Cut the stupid jokes about it being “not real”. Reality is irrelevant for fixing such a problem. What counts is if that person believes it in her inner model, and if it makes her life bad from that point of view.
This assumes that nobody's being grifted.
Speaking as someone with a mild case of Tourettes, you can't just "Get" it. You're either born with it or not.
However, many people with the faulty genes go through there entire life without noticing the symptoms until they experience a particularly stressful moment- at which point something "breaks" and it becomes a lot more severe.
I cannot possibly fathom a supermarket price scanner burning someone (It's just not possible), however it's possible the girl believed it did, causing her enough psychological stress to trigger the Tourettes.
However, if that was enough to set her off, she was going to get it pretty soon anyway with several years of stressful High School on the horizon.
Moreover, both of those reports were live hours before this story got greenlighted for the Slashdot frontpage.
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There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
Er, putting aside the fact that nearly everything in your post is pure nonsense, the claim is that the girl was burned by the price-gun, and then later developed PTSD and Tourette's. Unless you're trying to say that this burn was caused by the power of suggestion, this girl by all rights should go up in a poof of smoke every time she encounters sunlight, seeing as how the sun puts out a little more energy than your average LED. Assuming she's not a regular Slashdot reader, that's probably something that happens to her on a fairly regular basis.
I'm gonna guess your "experience" largely consists of talking about things you don't really understand. I've been around plenty of people with mental problems, and no, there are generally no easy fixes for them.
Unless of course they're making the story up, and trying to cash in on it. Since the claim involves a physical injury that seems to be impossible to be caused as they claim it was, that's not an unreasonable suspicion.
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
Now if it happens, that the input signal is just right, it can e.g. raise the sensitivity of one neuron (or lower that of an inhibiting one), which then becomes able to trigger the swearing neurons for a lot of previously irrelevant input.
The signal in this case is just semi-random light. If that was enough for her to develop a problem, then she was a time-bomb waiting to go off.
If i was passing by, and i sneezed, and she "developed" her problem then, would I be libable for her problems.
Even if the scanner developed her problem (which i don't believe for even a second), i can't see how shes justified in persueing the store. Either learn to live with it, or seek help/aid via normal disabilitiy channels.
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Should of told them you were clinically depressed and trying to refuse service to you was a violation of you ADA rights and you are going to sue them for the damages inflicted.
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Following your logic the same effect could have been triggered if the clerk smiled at her, or asked her if she found everything she was looking for. This lawsuit is just as rediculous as either of those would be.
Electronics causing (or at least triggering) a genetic disorder? It happens a lot. I know several people who have developed Tourettes after a few short hours of Mario Kart.
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
Judging from your tag line the responses you are getting here are how people typically react to you.
Wow. You're right up there with the time cube and electric universe people.
Tourette syndrome is an inherited neuropsychiatric disorder. It is not caused by visual stimuli and there is no evidence that visual stimuli can trigger or exacerbate Tourette's.
To say nothing of burns caused by a low power LED.
So, could I sue the oil industry for my Tourette's syndrome every time I look at the reader board when I pull into a gas station, let alone when I open my electric bill?
"I bow to no man" - Riddick
Hi guys, My sister has tourette's, and I feel obliged to inform you all that many people's "ticks" manifest in different ways. In her case, she jerked randomly, when she was younger quite often. Now that she's older she hides it much better, some of you may know someone with this without even being aware of it. I also find it hard to believe that it took her five years to make the connection between the price scanner and the tourette's, the whole story wreaks of unlikely. I don't understand how a scanner works, so all science aside, I suppose she can have the benefit of the doubt about that.
After the plaintiffs presented their case, the judge ruled for the defendant after a motion for no suit (meaning that the plaintiff has failed to present a case that can win, even undefended) from the defense. The sad part is that the defendant is still out money and time and a jury had a couple days worth of their life wasted just to get to that point.
I burst out in a profane tirade yelling at no-one in the room. Now I'm light sensitive to the color blue and I might have post-traumatic stress.
Do you think I have a claim on Microsoft?
But if you remember that a brain is nothing else but a network of trigger-no [lots of pseudoscientific drivel]
Yes, flashing red lights can cause epilepsy. How does that relate to this case?
What matters is what that person believes. Because that will cause a feedback loop of self-fulfillment, that makes it true anyway (for the inner model in her brain).
Her psychological problems are her own responsibility.
Reality is irrelevant for fixing such a problem. What counts is if that person believes it in her inner model, and if it makes her life bad from that point of view.
Fixing her problem is her problem; neither the supermarket nor I should have to pay a dime for it.
If i was passing by, and i sneezed, and she "developed" her problem then, would I be libable for her problems.
Maybe you could claim that you developed severe psychological trauma, sinus problems, and a failed marriage because her presence inhibited your ability to sneeze freely; I think you might be able to get a few million dollars out of her in compensation :-)
I'll wait to display outrage until after a jury has issued a verdict and the appeals process has run its course.
I'm still willfully naive enough to believe that a competent defense and a motivated defendant with a solid moral grounding can teach the judicial system enough science to win.
obviously no deficiencies vs. no obvious deficiencies
I can safely say the beam can *not* give you Tourette's. It can, however, cause severe pseudologia fantastica, FFS!
This is one of the funniest things I've heard so far today. Let's be real here. Of course, I curse every time I go to the store too, paying outrageous prices for imported garbage...
It's always nice to see another STM fan.
.. did she scan?
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Stuff that matters.
And this completely uninteresting piece of data ("Crazy girl complains about nonsense") is neither. Who cares about such crap?
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That’s what I get, for bringing up mental and emotional topics to a bunch of emotionally incompetent geeks. ^^
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
So the girl was sensitive to light? Why was she outside IN THE SUN at a county fair. Or even worse if it was at night, LEDs are friggin everywhere when it's dark out.
It's surprising she didn't spontaneously combust.
Unless you're talking about actual pathological narcissism, which is pretty damn rare, being overly narcissistic is only negative personality trait. I wouldn't put it in the same class of actual mental problems as paranoid schizophrenia or chronic depression, which you aren't going to "cure" by refusing to put up with people who have it. A true sociopath is not going to suddenly stop being a sociopath because we rebuke them. If anything, that's probably more likely to make them behave even more anti-socially, not less.
I get the idea that with your mention of morals and bemoaning of the rejection of "Christian Nazi Ethics" that your real problem is that there should be more good ole fashioned Christian virtue around, but since I'm not a Christian, I'm not likely to agree. Keep your religious proclivities for yourself, I don't want or need them, and I'm not going to buy the idea that a supernatural being is the cure for mental disorders.
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10104/1050455-100.stm
damnit if you would only post under your real name I would like to hear more about that. The fact that you're posting as AC only makes it seem totally bogus and idiotic. Sorry, but that's the price of anonymousness.
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Maybe she was on meth, like the sheep on the other article? http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/04/14/2329223
It's about Tourette's and you're modding me offtopic and trolling? Wow. That's just.... Wow.
Ok mods, lighten up already. (oh, and I'm soooo not worried about the karma hit, just thought the mods were highly strung)
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Judeo/Christian Values like
Don't murder
Don't steal
Be nice to each other
Don't fuck other peoples wives
Take responsibility for your own actions (repentance).
Of course, those are outdated and outmolded by our more progressive rules, where everything is okay to a point. You can murder, if you're abused as a child or ate too many twinkies. You can steal, because a hurricane hit your city (and you're poor, oppressed minority). And lets not stop fucking each other's wives, because hell we all want to be Tiger Woods YEAH!!!
Nobody is responsible for anything it is all everyone else's fault!
Yes, I've seen these same (or similar) arguments to these very things, making excuses for unconscionable behavior.
And without any basis for any standards of conduct, religious or otherwise, we're left to the whims of the masses and the tyranny of the majority.
My question is, who's standards should we follow? And why? I can make a logic case against any standard you come up with.
It is why in iRobot the three laws don't work, even though they are "perfect". That and my sig explains it as well as just about anything.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
No it's what you get for being wrong. Statements about associations between songs and ex-lovers, for example, are entirely irrelevant to this (now ex-)case, and to say that the LED scanner may have caused the retina to cause the optic nerve to fire the exact neuron to (somewhat indirectly) cause some damage to some other neurons is frankly absurd anyway - you're essentially waying that any minor event could have cause a mental problem. So why blame the scanner? To actually prove causation you'd need to do the equivalent of following the butterfly effect backwards from a Tsunami to the exact beating of the exact butterfly's wings. Good luck with that
Then again, perhaps those are basic HUMAN values. The same basic premises were present in non-Judeo/Christian cultures. Humans are equipped with a strong sense of empathy, which ends up causing most of us to avoid causing pain to others intentionally. OTOH, the book that those "Judeo/Christian values" also set up rules for when it's okay to stone people for adultery or working on the sabbath (you know, murder them), and for owning and selling slaves. Christians don't do those things anymore though because "those are outdated and outmolded by our more progressive rules".
Yeah, the "Twinkie Defense" is fun to talk about, but it's also wrong. Dan White pleaded "Diminished Capacity" due to clinical depression. He also didn't get off scott-free, he was convicted of voluntary manslaughter.
It depends on what you're talking about. Is taking food from a flooded grocery store when you have no other choice looting, and should you be prosecuted for it? I say no, but then again, I guess I lack the "Christian Values" that say people should starve because the store owner was forced to stay away (ironically due to an "act of god"). Or, are you talking about people who took liquor or televisions, because those folks were prosecuted when they could be found.
Why do you care what Tiger Woods does as far as his personal life goes? It's not your business, and although it's distasteful, it's not illegal. Once again, if you want to follow that particular "Christian Value" go for it, but personally I don't give a shit who sleeps with who. Guess I've got better things to do than read the tabloids.
Yeah, and guess what, I can give examples of murders and violence done by those who claim they were following their "Christian Values" too. Abortion doctors have been shot and blown up, homosexuals beaten to death, and not too long ago a group of "Christian Soldiers" conspired (and luckily failed) to murder police officers to start the "Holy War". TV Evangelists scam their "flocks", Catholic Priests can't keep their hands off the altar boys, and prominent "Conservative Christians" seem to keep getting caught with their pants down with people other than their wives (sometimes male, sometimes female). As an aside, what do Dan White, and a number of the Katrina looters have in common? They're Christians (although I assume you'll say they're not REALLY Christians).
As opposed to the tyranny of a small group who interprets the "word of god" based on a collection of writings left behind by a group of bronze-age goat-herders? I'd prefer a more rational basis for my standards of conduct thanks.
Really? Okay, lets play.
I don't murder people because I'd rather not be murdered and I don't inflict pain on others because I'm not an inhuman monster who enjoys the suffering of others.
I don't steal because, once again, I don't enjoy being stolen from and therefore I don't want to inflict that suffering on someone e
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
Twinkie defense of diminished capacity for cold blooded murder. Reduced to "voluntary manslaughter" is a joke itself.
RE: Katrina stealing ... the problem is deeper than just looting, because the looting is the symptom. However, what I was talking about was the excuses being made.
RE Tiger Woods: I'm sorry, it does affect me. Because he is a high profile personality, it is on the news. Because he crashed his car, after an alleged assault or because he was under the influence or whatever (it doesn't matter which one of the possible "whys"), because of and as a result of his "personal indiscretions". It affects large number of people who held him up as a "role model" (not me, because I don't see athletes as role models).
However, if he was able to keep his escapades quiet and out of the public, then I would agree. The moment it becomes public, and involves public safety officials (police, ambulance or whatever), it matters.
As for you not giving a shit who sleeps with who, Can I tell that to your wife / SO? Oh, I'm sure you give a shit about who sleeps with yours and if you don't, you should, a least on health reasons alone. I'm sure your SO cares about who you sleep with, and if they don't, they should for the same reason I gave you.
"I don't murder people because I'd rather not be murdered and I don't inflict pain on others because I'm not an inhuman monster who enjoys the suffering of others."
Good for you. I don't follow your rules because I'm bigger, stronger and more powerful than you. Now what? Call me all the names in the book you want, and I'll shoot you for "dissing me", because I value honor more than life. Why is my view wrong and yours right? Oh because you're more "sophisticated" and "enlightened" than me? That is disrespectful and you deserve to die. Bang you're dead. See how well your "I don't like to cause pain" helps you there?
"don't steal because, once again, I don't enjoy being stolen from and therefore I don't want to inflict that suffering on someone else."
Well see, you're just not enlightened enough to realize that there is no such thing as "personal property". Everything is everyone's and we all have to share and share alike. You're just an evil person because you got your and now you don't want anyone else to have what you have (seen this argument on /. recently). I don't see it as your stuff, I see it as humanity's.
And in case you haven't seen my point, I've taken both a Anarchist view and one of a highly progressive socialist view. Not that I believe either of those two things, but rather to point out that your views aren't shared by everyone, and my question was who's viewpoints should we view and why?
As for your list of people exploiting people, I'm afraid that isn't exclusive to any one. It is, however, the hallmark of humanity, that people will take advantage of others. NO SYSTEM is devoid of scammers and sociopaths. Pointing to evil to excuse evil is not excuse and is evil. (btw, I'm not "christian"). Humans are hypocrites, all of us are.
Conservative people claiming "family values" get caught in extra marital affairs. Al Gore flies around in LearJets fighting global warming caused by people flying around in LearJets.
"You realize that book is fiction, right? Asimov wrote the rules, invented the notion they were "perfect" to set up conflict, and then pointed out the flaws in the rules he made up."
Yup, exactly my point. Man made rules are flawed because they are made by flawed men. Any set of "rules" can be used to exploit others. History is replete with examples. Only people who are ignorant think that if we just tweak the rules it will make everything better. It won't.
"Then again, religions are large groups of people, and they do seem to behave as dumb, panicky animals, so maybe you're onto something there after all."
Yup. This includes the religions of governance (R) and (D). Religions of Science (Global Warming). Religions of Politics (Socialism). Gather
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Wow,just wow.
okay.
You don't get it. The murders had nothing to do with junk-food. It was never claimed that they did. The junk-food link is that White underwent a sudden, sharp personality change, and going from being a health-nut to a junk-food fanatic was a symptom of his condition, not the cause. I'll say that last part again for you, it was never claimed by the defense that Twinkies made him do it. If you want to treat people with mental illness the same as you do everyone else, good for you, but it's generally accepted that the mentally ill are not behaving rationally, and can't be held to the same standard as someone who isn't mentally ill.
Okay, so you don't have an answer to what I said, so you'll just move the target. Cool.
Bullshit. His personal life has no bearing on your life unless you choose to let it. The car-crash and assault are incidental and have legal remedies. As for being a role model, it's not his problem that people are stupid enough to let their kids believe that a stranger is a good role model because he's good at hitting a little ball with a bent stick.
I agree there. But the problem is the reckless driving, or assault or whatever, not the stupid girlfriends. Would you like to outlaw the superbowl because certain people get drunk and drive after watching it? Of course not, same thing. Again, Tiger can screw who he likes. It's nobodies business but his and his family's.
Why are you so fascinated with other people's sex-lives? Maybe we have an open relationship, maybe we just trust each other, maybe we're wild swingers who spend our nights attending orgies. It's not your concern. You can tell your wife she's not allowed to sleep with anyone but you, or you can tell her you think she should start a career as a hooker for all I care. Why? Because your relationship is none of my business.
Which proves what? That happens regardless of what type of government you have, and whether it's founded on Judeo/Christian values. I don't see your point. If you're going to just go with criminal be
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
I love when someone tries to launch a lawsuit on the premise of a medical impossibility.
The burns were especially funny - I don't know what kind of scanner uses LEDs, but I'm thinking it probably put off no more than 500 lumens in total, if it was really bright. Probably a nice low-energy red too, like most.
Assuming it was a laser? I think those have to be under 5mW output... you're warned not to shine those in your eyes, but there have been cases of laser pointers on that power level shone straight into eyes (self-inflicted by kids) for 10 seconds straight and higher, with no lasting damage.
So even a vampire could take a light like that, haha... I know it's obvious, but I had to geek out and try guessing some numbers.
"Why are you so fascinated with other people's sex-lives? Maybe we have an open relationship, maybe we just trust each other, maybe we're wild swingers who spend our nights attending orgies. It's not your concern. "
It is now, thanks to Obama Care.
"It's nobodies business but his and his family's."
Wrong. It affects his contractual agreements. He promotes himself as a role model. I'm not sure if you realize this, but I'm not a big fan of celebrity. However much of our society is and it affects everything we do, including electing a junior senator who never ran anything bigger than a community organization to President of the USA. But hey, what do I know.
"If you're going to just go with criminal behavior ... "
Trade Federation guy: Is that legal?
Emperor Palpatin: I will make it legal.
Cute line, but exposes the flaw in "criminal" behavior. What is legal or criminal varies from place to place. What makes your "legal" framework better than other places? And making something legal (or illegal) doesn't make it right (or wrong).
"So your point was that it's easy to invent rules that you intend to be flawed so that you can cleverly point out that there's a flaw in the rules? Wow"
No, that is not my point. My point is that the road to totalitarianism is based on "tweaking the rule". The USA has more laws than any other country. Are we better off, worse off, or running about average?
I'm a libertarian, so I believe that people should rule themselves, while I also realize that some people can't or won't rule themselves (basis for the thread). Some people are social paths and just don't care, other people are just assholes who stay just this side of what is "legal". The only solution is that we need people who can punch the asshole in the face (like the asshole in Walmart who only has a limited vocabulary that he uses the F-Bomb as noun, verb, adverb and a proper name. Asshole, needs to be punched in the nose.
"Oh, you're one of those guys. Everyone in the world is wrong except for you, and to add insult to injury, they're too stupid to realize that you're right and they're all wrong. Got it."
Oh, you're one of those guys. Nobody is wrong unless they upset your view of the world. All views are equal as long as they are compatible with yours. Got it.
See I can do it too.
"What has any of that got to do with your point about "Christian Values", or my original point that mental illness is not easily cured?"
It all depends on what you call mental illness doesn't it? Is being Gay a mental illness? If it is, can it be cured? If by it not being curable becomes accepted part of society it becomes "normalized" does that make it not a mental illness?
It used to be called that, but not now. Why? What other "mental illness" we have now, will be "normalized" in 100 years? If we found a pill that could make people "not gay" if they took it (like lithium for Schizophrenics) would you say it was "mental illness" and make them take it? Why or why not?
You see, what is a mental illness is subject to changing definitions.
The easy fix for people like this is to lock them up so that they cannot harm the rest of society. However that is frowned upon by people because it is "mean" or whatever and that we should tolerate them mingling in with the rest of society. The fix is easy, if we only had the will do it.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Really? I must have missed that clause when I read the bill. Could you point out the part that says that other peoples sex-lives are your business for me?
Ah, and that's why he's being sued by all of his sponsors for breach of contract. Oh wait, no he isn't. I'm unaware of any celebrity who signs away their right to have a personal life to their sponsors. But don't let little facts like that get in the way of your making stuff up. As for Obama, he doesn't seem to be doing all that badly, no matter how badly the right hopes he fails at everything. Oh, wait, you're not right wing either. Much like you chose a religious name and espouse Christian values but aren't religious, you spout right wing talk-show host nonsense but aren't actually right-wing, right?
Quite the deep thinker, aren't you. If you don't like the way someone acts, just punch 'em out. Mentally ill (the basis of this thread)? Punch 'em in the face, that'll teach 'em to stop being all crazy. Bad language? Punch 'em, that'll fix 'em. Guess what, "just this side of legal" is still legal, but assaulting people for things you don't like is illegal. Therefore, you're a scumbag criminal, and they're your innocent victim. Congratulations.
How exactly do you "upset my view of the world"? Live any way you want, but keep your nose out of my business. I'll do the same for you. So far though you've suggested again and again that you're nosey and like to tell other people how to live. You appear to feel that you have a right to not be offended (example: " the asshole in Walmart who only has a limited vocabulary that he uses the F-Bomb as noun, verb, adverb and a proper name"), and that's a right that just plain old doesn't exist.
In what way do you suppose that being bipolar, or schizophrenic, or suffering from paranoid delusions are going to be "normalized"? Homosexuality being classified as a mental illness is an embarrassment to the field of psychiatry. Psychiatry was used to classify an unpopular group as "mentally ill", when it's generally agreed that classification wasn't motivated by any concern for the mental health of homosexuals, but rather social and political pressure to demonize a group of people.
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
Mods - go chew cock.
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(all posted after mine, you batarseholic shitcuntwats)
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."