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12-Year-Old Sikh Boy Arrested In Texas After Bringing a Power Bag To School (salon.com)
AaronW writes: A 12-year-old Sikh boy in Dallas, Texas was accused by another student of bringing a bomb to school. Apparently he had a powerbag; a backpack with a built-in phone charger. Rather than send him to the principal's office or ask for an explanation, the teacher instead called the police, who promptly arrested him and threw him into a juvenile detention center for three days. The school promptly suspended Armaan, and the police released him after three days but required that he wear an ankle bracelet.
Verifiable details are scant, for this case — probably because the whole thing seems to revolve around some 12-year-old kids talking to each other. Armaan's story is that another student said his bag looked like it had a bomb in it, and that he would report it. Believing it to be a joke, Armaan laughed. The police say he "admitted" to joking about a bomb, and they insist their actions were justified. A school district spokesman says the family was notified, but the parents say they had to dial 911 to find somebody who could tell them where their son was being held.
That's pretty sick.
Take them for all the money that can be had. False arrest charges would be nice too.
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I think it was who said that one failed terrorist attack and we all have to take our shoes off before boarding a plane but 31 shootings later still no new gun laws. This country has it's priorities completely backwards :(...
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Brought to you by nanny-state candy-ass "progressives" who shit their pants at a picture of a gun - literally.
The difference between a battery and explosive is negligible
The basic problem is that mundanes see any home-made electronic device as a bomb. This is the terminal point of anti-intellectual bias in society, if you can make something, it's assumed that you're out to make something harmful.
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This is a horrible miscarriage of justice. If we're to accept this story on face value, the failures and stupidity at every level of government is distressingly palpable. How absurd is it that no one at the school or police department performed even the most minimal investigation much less inform the parents. Isn't it outright illegal for police to talk to children to interrogate them without the parents having the option to be present?
This is just like that clock boy case where Han solo dies in the new star wars film. Why do Texans hate Muslims that much?
Soon we'll hear accusations that the student's father's sister's cousin's former room mate was also unverifiably be accused of making bomb threats.
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Another nontech news story. If I want to read stories like this, I'll go watch CNN, not read slashdot. At least with the clock kid, we got to see the very good soldering job the PCB, or mention how reckless leaving the transformer exposed was.
Besides, kids should know better than to bring weird stuff to public k-12 schools. You don't get to do the cool stuff until high school chemistry class.
I HIGHLY doubt this young man was sitting there begging and pleading and trying to show everyone it is a harmless phone charger and the evil islamaphobic (yes I realize Sikh is not Muslim, but we got a narrative to push!) school officials and police decided to throw him in jail without trying to follow up at all what was going on, because they are evil and bigoted, or something.
If anybody sees a bag with unidentified electronics in it, they are going to be suspicious especially with the recent goings on. Does every other student need a phone charger built into their backpack? Why only this kid? When I went to school my backpack was full of books and papers and stuff.
This reeks of wanna-be fake victim clock boy payday to me.
Sadly when dealing with law enforcement you can't make jokes. It is a related issue to the whole "zero tolerance" mindset that has besieged school policy. Being reasonable is no longer a reasonable expectation.
A normal human can be expected to crack a joke when confronted with a bizarre situation, such as a teacher asking a seemingly insane question as to whether your clock, or backpack is a bomb. Using humor to diffuse a tense situation is one of those social skills we pick up as a way to survive being crammed into overcrowded schools with a bunch of numb skull peers. But normal human behavior will get you tazed, pepper sprayed, arrested, or even shot these days.
Similarly we have a lot of cases of folks freezing up while being barked at by armed cops and being shot for not dropping the "weapon" (real or imagined). Normal human behavior for sure, but you die as a result. Trying shield yourself from a rain of blows? To a cop that can be seen as "resisting arrest" and justify a further rain of blows, a choke hold, or a tazing. Using body language like gesticulating with your arms and hands as you try to talk things out with some meat head pointing a gun at you? To a cop that is "acting erratically", maybe even causing him to "fear for his life". Not answering questions per your Miranda rights? "Acting un-cooperatively."
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This item is not
a f*cking bomb
Seriously.
Big brother is always listening on someones cellular spy device. Makes me think of that guy .... something Durst muttering sarcasitcally: " Sure I killed them... I killed them all". Promptly arrested.
If Clock Boy is good for $15 million, this must be worth $100 miiillllion....
For me, the most disturbing thing is that there are (many apparently) teachers out there who call the cops on young children. Racism has always been there, but as far as I remember for anything less than knife-wielding 17 year old gangster students, it would be a school affair, dealt between teachers, parents, principle. Nowadays, they just call the cops on kids...
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Thank you for giving me the opportunity to say SCREW YOUR GUN RIGHTS.
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This was in Arlington, not Dallas. This is like confusing Islip with New York City, Oakland with San Francisco, Yokohoama with Tokyo, or Luton with London.
So one kid goes out of his way to make a fake bomb and then calls it a clock and gets invited to the Whitehouse and this kid just brings an off the shelf backpack with a charger in it and after a kid threatens him to which he thought was a joke, proceeded to joke about it gets tossed in the pokey, and it was justified?, It is sad but the real terrorists have already won :(
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It's looking more and more like a certain Sunni extremist group has already obtained one of their primary objectives: polarizing the United States against anyone of middle-eastern origin. I know this is at this point a 'Planet Texas' problem, but the problem is growing everywhere: people are already primed to be afraid of anyone who looks like they might conceivably be Muslim, and you give them any half-assed reason for a knee-jerk reaction, and you have what happened in this news story. One has to wonder how long it'll be, before someone (a cop, most likely) 'shoots and asks questions later', and some kid or other innocent dies just because they looked (or were in fact) Muslim -- and they weren't doing a damned thing wrong or even planned to do a damned thing wrong. After that, it'll likely be an avalanche. Something has to be done to stop this chain of events, now, before it gets to that point, but I'll be damned if I know what we need to do. Other than kick Trump out of the whole campaign process, and furthermore duct-tape him to a chair and stuff a sock in his mouth; that guy is doing at least as much damage to the whole situation as so-called Islamic State assholes are.
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How do these stupid teachers not know the difference between a Sikh and a Muslim?
ageist, sexist, and Islamophobia in 5 words. well played, sir.
Have a habit of overreacting to kids and not having any clue how a bomb would actually be detonated. Sad thing is they'll probably miss the real thing if it's ever in front of them. Glad I don't live there anymore.
Yeah!
This shit has been goin on for years, american schools and the people who work there are totally fucking CRAZY! Get your kids out of there before they turn into drooling psychopaths ready to follow every whim of whoever holds the stick.
For 13 billion dollars.
... because it's probably illegal (lawsuit-bait-illegal, probably not go-to-jail-illegal) for the police or the school to say much of anything one way or the other.
Sounds like the kid got swatted by a class bully.
The Arlington PoPo claim the bust was ok because the 12 year old was not able to explain to the so-called adults what happened.
He may have had trouble because their problem was so silly he had a hard time understanding what to say.
Fortunately, no ambulances were involved.
It seems at this point, the Arlington school district is increasing their liability by continuing the charade.
They really need to dump the ankle bracelet and let him back to school, or at least get a full time tutor to make sure he misses no time.
The swatter might need a consequence as well.
Hope the kid is smart enough to need a good college, looks like his lawyers will get Arlington to give him a great nest egg to pay for it.
In a perfect world, the ignorance of the folks who are paid to know better should cause them a personal consequence.
Until this happens, we will see more of these scholarship programs.
... especially the cowards.
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Someone needs to teach those idiots the difference between Sikh's and Muslims. To begin with, they go together like nitroglycerin and a Blendtec Blender. Second, Sikh's have never, ever done any harm to Americans. Third, they do NOT try to impose their religion on other under pain of getting their heads cut off.
Perhaps they should look at this blog entry titled "Sikhs are cool!"
http://angry.net/blog2/?p=19585
Granted, the poster is to the right of Genghis Khan but he has a point here.
Is it A:
* Get America to panic and voluntarily give up their civil rights under the guise of "zero tolerance," at which point the bad guys have already won.
or B:
* Get America to accept that kids will bring electronics to school and when questioned about them, make bomb-jokes
* Sneak a terrorist into the country with kids and send the kids to school with bombs that look like science experiments or backpacks-with-batteries
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A friend in my highschool about 10 years ago was put under house arrest for 6 months because he brought a plastic laser pointer that looked like a really tiny revolver. Someone freaked and instead of getting detention or something, he was arrested for a toy.
Whether it be xenophobes, islamaphobes, or hoplophobes, you have nuts of all type out there willing to persecute people they think they are afraid of.
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they are a respectable warrior culture with fairly high integrity.
they are not engaged in a jihad against Western culture.
ya, Texas. Enough said. The world according to GOP.
Dangit folks, learn your turban: Sikh's tie their turban's so that there's an inverted V at the forehead. and if one had to belong to a religious sect then being Sikh is in the top three (they're much nicer to females than your average Baptist). I'd sooner share a lunch with a Sikh than nearly any 'follower of Abraham' (for the curry, if naught else)
The gun is only dangerous when it's in your hand. So, we could actually do without gun laws if we eliminated people instead :-)
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Whatever happened to Andy Griffith?
If teachers and principals cannot tell a battery or a clock apart from a bomb, do we really want people capable of that level of idiocy teaching our children?
this is not going to go away until our adults in this country smarten up!
Some would say I am being too critical here, but I don't think I am being critical enough.
If the police are called over a false bomb threat, the person calling should be charged with a crime if it turns out not to be a bomb.
This is no different legally speaking, from those idiots that, after 9-11 would miss their airplane flight and then call in a bomb threat so that they can get the flight held up so they can get on.. Both are creating panic, both are tying up resources that would be better spent chasing the real terrorists and both are creating the straw man that people's rights to privacy and other basic freedoms are subservient to fear.
This BULLSHIT needs to fucking stop now!
I don't want to give anyone this idea but it probably has already been discovered as another bullying tactic by insensitive kids. We've probably all read about the effect of bullying on school children up to and including suicide. And the school officials are not blameless either in their behaviors.
Over and over we hear about immigrants being harassed, and it's almost always in the same set of states that tend to elect insane Conservatives
In a lot of ways the US is like Pakistan, with civilized people in the cities, and superstitious, bigoted throwbacks in the tribal regions.
For what did they send the 12 year old to jail?
What country sends 12 year olds to jail for anything anyways?
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People tend to have a disconnected view of history. We think of things that happened before our lifetimes as ancient events performed in very different times by very different people, depicted in black and white images from our textbooks. Those crazy primates voted for Hitler. And they participated in the Salem witch trials. And they bought slaves. And they committed genocides.
But thankfully they're not the same people as us. We learned from their mistakes, right? We're enlightened. We have smartphones and shiny teeth and refined morals. We'd never do that kind of thing. Would we?
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The never detain kids who look like Howdy Doody for "odd devices", it's always dark skin or turbans.
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Nothing of value was lost.
Only in amurica... land of the paranoid rednecks
Fucking morons. These things are in all the Christmas sales flyers. If either of them had 2 functioning brain cells they'd have had a clue.
The teacher should be fired immediately and imprisoned for falsifying a police report.
The cop should be imprisoned for being an incompetent dick who also falsified the report by going along with it. I'd also remove any kids that the teacher and police officer have from their custody as they are obviously mentally unstable and a risk to children everywhere.
Expecting such f***ing ignorant rednecks in Texas is like expecting fish in the sea, but being able to be so ignorant and also run schools and police? wow.
If someone accuses for no reason accuses my ordinary backpack of being a bomb (sold with a convenient bomb-holder!) I'm going to say , "that's right, it's a bomb" and then think "idiot".
Now I go to jail? And I am, what, 12?
At what point does this obsession with controlling people's speech for fear of bombings and mass murder start to shade into a violation of the 1st Amendment right to be fucking sarcastic, ironic and otherwise you know, conscious?
You know how many people died due to acts of terrorism and mass shootings compared to falling in the fucking tub ? Know what your odds are wrt getting shot / bombed by strangers anywhere in America?
I know both sides are rolling around in th mud of current events in order to achieve their desired legislative ends - the left gun control and the right cessation of Muslim immigration but to both sides I say, in the spirit of Madison and Jefferson- fucking blow me.
Fucking wake the fuck up and see how you're both being played for goddamn fools by the people who want to have more control over your speech , your privacy, YOUR KIDS and all your "inalienable" rights.
Um, wouldn't "them" in this case be the local government which means the local community, i.e. people who are paying taxes in that town? Best case the police department is insured and the insurance company would pay any settlement and then just jack up insurance rates on the rest of their customers to make the money back. Yeah, good idea.
I really hate this type of reply.
It attempts to sway the reader into thinking that responsibility and/or justice will be expensive. It tries to dissuade the reader from commonsense actions which would tend to prevent future transgressions.
Don't fine the company - they'll only jack up their prices and it's the customers who would pay. Don't sue the government, they'll just jack up the taxes and the people will pay.
This might cost the taxpayers in one or two instances, but it would have a chilling effect on other abuses in other districts. It's an overall gain for the taxpayers everywhere.
We don't have to sit outraged and powerless while these sorts of abuses happen. One or two groups of taxpayers can take the hit and we will all benefit. They will benefit later when we take the hit for other types of abuse.
Let's work together to stop this nonsense.
Including, saying that commonsense punishments are futile.
I know we fought to wrest Texas from Mexico back in the 1840s, but I feel this was a mistake. We should give Texas back to Mexico.
They can have California back too.
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And issue of Fear based Stupidity continues unabated across the US.
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While anyone of of any religion can go AWOL, the FACT (for those to care about facts, which doesn't appear to include our government "servants") is that Sikhism is a very, very, very peaceful religion. If they investigators had started with ascertaining that FACT, they could have examined all the other facts with about 99% less lunacy.
Islamism has a long history, dating back to its founder, of butchery as a tool of "religion". Not all religions are created equal.
Doubtless I am not being PC, but this country is nuts.
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Every mobile phone is potential bomb trigger. Did they round up all the kids with phones?
All these people keep freaking out over are things that they suspect are triggers which just indicates how stupid the populace in general is.
A bomb is 3 things
- trigger
- detonator
- explosive
Just about anything from a string to a super computer can be trigger setting the condition for activating the detonator.
Getting in a panic over something that might be trigger is ludicrous and does not help.
I've never understood why Trump is popular with you Yanks. But with crap like this, I'm starting to think you deserve him. I just hope he doesn't take the rest of the world down with him.
We are now the terrorists.
Let's see:
Extreme reaction to something innocuous? Check.
Intolerance at the expense of common sense? Check.
Outrage at those whose opinion differs from yours, especially religious? Check.
Different standards for 'us' and 'them'? Check.
Texas is on track to take the Idiocracy title away from Florida.
Seems like Syrians aren't the only foreigners Texas doesn't want to have around.
We are the 198 proof..
Kidnapping added to the sordid history of child-molestations.
But, at least, it did not happen in a church.
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what is becoming of America. The regular almost daily parade of articles like this, and listening to the likes of Trump makes me imagine what 1930s Germany must have been like.
Profoundly glad as a Canadian that it does not seem to be that highly contagious.
In the USA Kto12 educational system, we have a system that is local, state and Federal supported that enlivens, welcomes, and glorifies child pedophiles as the standard bearers of society, and that is a crime.
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The Sikhs geographically live at the interface of other religions in western India, having moderated their lives for hundreds of years to avoid getting murdered. Social researchers observe the above teacher and police reactions as like those of toddlers. When slightly stressed, they seek what comforts them in unrelated aspects of their lives: stuffed animals for toddlers, bigotry for too many Texans. Man up.
You are insane if you live in Texas, Texas is the Racism capitol of the United states, yes even above the deep south KKK states. You are fucking nuts of your family lives in Texas.
Please move to a state where the Education level of the adults is above 8th grade.
Why would the Jesus freaks tout Ayn Rand, a stout atheist. Maybe you shouldn't stereotype.
Perhaps you should ask the likes of: Alan Greenspan, Paul Ryan, Ron Paul, and Rand Paul. Just the ones I could come up with off the top of my head.
The people advocating the Republic of Texas also have a fetish for her: http://thetexasrepublic.com/documents/atlasshrugged.pdf
And I've lived in Texas, they live it loud and proud.
We are doing just what the ISIS terrorists want, tearing apart American society and denying the American way of life. If we continue victimizing innocent young immigrants, we are further depriving ourselves of future stem workers and limiting our diversity. This is a bad bad move on the parts of the school, the police and the people commenting on it that say idiotic things like "well it's ok because he does look kinda.. you know.. Durka Durka.." That is prejudice, that is racism, that is just as wrong as if I turned around and picked one of you and phoned in a phony bomb threat in your name and watched you get arrested. You wouldn't like it would you?
This has to stop. This is unacceptable. We are wasting resources on victimizing innocent children rather than spending those resources wisely on protecting our way of life. This goes on, I would not be surprised if America is indeed on it's way out. If this is the way America treats it's citizens, then it is not worth protecting anymore is it? (that is sarcasm for the more dumb amongst you, of course I would fight and die to protect my country, but I am also protecting the rights of children like Ahmed and Armaan, to not be hassled by idiotic racist rednecks, to the point that I believe the school and the police department and the city should pay through the nose on this one.) I do not care, if that cost gets passed along to the insurance company or the taxpayers, and it is irrelevant. In perfect world, they should sue the teacher and the police officer and the principal and any restitution should have to come out of their pocket. If this is millions of dollars and it ruins the carrier and financial life of the teacher and the kid that made the bomb threat and the principal, so be it.. The should have thought about the consequences of their actions. It is a sign of pathological narcism, doing something that harms another person and then acting like the shit you caused by your actions somehow does not stink. If I were in Armaan's family, my position would be that an example must be made of the student making the false accusation, The teacher that enabled the false accusation and the principal for signing off on it and the police officer that enabled the situation. That line of people should be made to pay 8 figures and it should make the news and it should ruin the lives of those people who enabled a false bomb threat. That is really what is going on here.. the boy who accused Armaan of having a bomb made a false bomb threat. Charge him with that. This is not fucking rocket science.
it's time to cull all the retards before they destroy us all
I don't think any followers of the Sikh religion have ever blown anything up ever so this proves that ANYONE coming to school and joking about having a bomb will have consequences. But, of course, they're probably going to say since he wasn't white it's racism and everyone thought his was Arabic or some BS like that when in reality, even when I was 12, nobody asked or cared what your parents' origins were.
Ok, I'm not an American, but I thought the US has a constitution or something that protected rights. I know other countries have them, and a lot of them have a set of rights specified for citizens so that the government can't just incarcerate a 12 year old for bringing a phone charging bag to school. Its clearly *not* a bomb, and why the teacher decided to phone the police instead of finding out what it was, or calling the principal, or finding out what it is. And why oh why did the police not determine what it was? Are they unfamiliar with phone charging bags? Does everything look like a bomb to them? I know where I live, if there is material that is unknown and suspected to be a bomb (and they can't ask anyone about it to first determine that it isn't a bomb), they they bring in a bomb squad and detonate it. Its bad because any pipe with wires in it (like power wires in conduit) is instantly suspect. I can see that the teacher doesn't know anything about bombs or electronics, and likewise the principal, but instead of calling the president, the national guard, special forces, the navy, the marines, going defcon 12 and scrambling B52's, they could have asked someone who might have 2 more neurons than they have, which are specifically trained in "bomb/non-bomb" identification. There might be a lot of very very frightened people where they live who have concocted a bunch of "zero thought" rules that they have to follow, but from the outside looking in, the behavior of the teacher, principal and police is not unlike a North Korean "benevolent leader" training film.
To be free, we have to accept risk. That means YOU have to be willing to die if you are wrong. In most cases you will be right and the perceived threat will be found out to be a harmless, self centered adolescent. But in some cases you will be right and you will die. So die and at least die free with a gun in your hand. in the mean time look carefully at these 'boys" and their "pranks" and make judgements about where their loyalties lie. War is all about death, killing and survival. It is a test of your will to persist. It is easy to consent to die. To be a killer is a more difficult path. Let us not trivialize war. Do not imagine that we ask if you are willing to die for your country. What we ask is are you willing to kill for your country ? Yes, I didn't think so. What a tragedy it is that so many years of ease and saftey leave us in such a contemptuous state. We are talking about the life and death of our civilization. The life or death of a half formed sikh boy is inconsequential in the scheme of things.
The parents lawyer is probably shitting him or herself happy right now.
America sees to think that people are Christian, Muslim or Jews and nothing else..
If you are brown then you are a Muslim, I would be scared to get my kids educated by these dumb idiots...
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Because the terrorists have one. We're terrorized by our own government now.
Maybe the solution is to NOT disarm the victims?
Armed victims aren't stopping shootings or deterring them. Also you have a poor sense of how targets are being sought.
Comedians/commentators mocked the notion of rushing and attacking a would-be shooter a month or so ago.
Another month or so earlier these same comedians/commentators were praising three unarmed Americans on a French train who rushed and attacked a terrorist armed with an AK-47.
These comedians/commentators have quite selective memories. Others too apparently.
Would you like to amend your claim that a "good guy" has not stopped a terrorist from killing people?
have you had a drug crazed loon try to break down your door? I have.
guns aren't banned you nigger, we have more now than we did before the "ban". New Zealand has not had a mass shooting either despite far looser laws than us.
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The USA's gun death rate is far far far higher than places like Canada, France, UK, etc.
Its also far higher than Switzerland, which also has a history of sport shooting and firearms being possessed by private citizens. Even private firearms that would be considered "assault weapons" in various states in the USA. And yet they don't have a serious problem.
What they do have are proper background checks, proper safety instruction and proper safe storage at home. Well, that and a good educational system and social safety net.
The problem is obviously not the mere possession of firearms by civilians. The actual failing is most likely in the USA' socioeconomic policies. Firearms related deaths are the "symptom", not the actual "disease".
Oh, and like the countries that you cite, Mexico has pretty severe restrictions on civilian possession of firearms. Yet there is a bit of a problem there too.
and there US went full retard.
I hope that, no matter where you live, a pack of feral niggers moves in next door that makes your life hell.
is to arrest them. Not fine the government, not fine the state, not fine the police, not fine the school, but to arrest and incacerate for a minimum of three years every single person in the chain that caused this moronic tragedy. Why? No fine, no tax to raise. And three years means that they won't have a job to go back to, since none of those positions will be able to keep a post open for three years, especially for such a retard as them.
if you're going to try to excuse criminal behaviour by the fact that it will cost a lot to incarcerate these people, then you might as well close down the justice system and all the prisons.
Even though the Muslim kid was deliberately trying to provoke a reaction he got an overwhelming positive response. Unfortunately, being a Sikh, this kid is unlikely to get any sympathy or a trip to the white house - even though it looks like a mistake. Now if the Sikhs rioted, killed and raped people then this would be different - but unlike Islam, Sikhism holds to their being value in all religions, equality, and use of violence only as a last resort when dealing with violence against themselves or defending other innocents. Such a belief is unlikely to get politicians falling over themselves to appease and say that you are the religion of peace.
And Americans wonder why the rest of the world holds them in such contempt!
To my mind, one of the worst aspects of this matter (as reported) is that no one appears to have investigated, questioned or even challenged the boy who made the allegations against Armaan Singh. As Paula Young Lee wrote in the Salon article linked to,
'In Armaan’s case, a nameless “bully” targeted the most vulnerable kid in striking range at his school: a boy with a serious heart condition who was not only the new kid but whose race and religion identified him as an outsider. The bully chose his victim well: the police are vociferously defending their actions despite no evidence of any wrongdoing on Armaan’s part. Instead, at every step of the way, the bully’s lie was supported, endorsed, and reinforced by the actions of every adult authority figure who ought to have known better. That they did not is far more troubling than a child acting cruelly. The institutional response is only comprehensible inside a racist framework that makes it seem reasonable to assume that all brown people are Islamic extremists conspiring to blow up white Americans, and presumed to be guilty rather than innocent'.
On the face of it - based on what Armaan and his family told the media - Armaan did nothing wrong, but the other boy bullied him, then maliciously lied to the authorities. It was this other boy (if anyone) who is guilty of making a bomb threat. Yet somehow it is the brown-skinned lad who finds himself in police detention and in court.
There is something deeply ironic that Americans find it so easy and natural to accused a brown person of conspiring to bomb them, since Americans - through their armed forces, the CIA, and other agencies - have killed literally millions of brown Asian people. Notably at least 3 million in South-East Asia, and about the same number in Iraq. Is there some kind of subconscious guilt operating here?
I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
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So true. Islam shows that where concessions are concerned crime does pay.
Like the rest of the posters, this appears to be horrible. However, the whole story is somehow missing something. The detention center, the ankle bracelet, don't make sense. I get the 'overzealous' immediate response to perceived threat by a 'foreigner fearin' set of authorities. As wrong as that is. What I don't get the detention center, bracelet, and not notifying parents for three days. Just seems there's something not being said.
If only he was muslim. He could have been out within an hour and have one free ticket to meet the president.
You can get a 12-year-old to say anything if you scare them enough. Ever read The Crucible?
Probably the cops first. Then the school.
It's not to be treated as serious if it was a joke among two friends.
I'm sure you don't mean to, but you sound like an absolute dickhead when you use that word.
I know how unpopular it is NOT to just jump on the "dumb ass Texans bandwagon," but it seems to me this post is completely one-sided. Reading the articles, it appears Armaan did joke about having a bomb in his bag. The Dallas area has had a number of escalating bomb threats in recent weeks.
From the /. post: "Armaan's story is that another student said his bag looked like it had a bomb in it, and that he would report it. Believing it to be a joke, Armaan laughed."
Of course, this is Amman's story days after the incident. Of course, his side of the story will make him look as innocent as is possible.
Police, however, said: "Singh confessed to telling a fellow student that he had a bomb in his backpack."
“People have got to learn they cannot make these types of threats, which cause alarm, which cause evacuations,” police spokesman Lt. Christopher Cook told the Morning News. “Just because you say it’s a joke, it doesn’t get you out of trouble.”
We need to open our bear-trap minds minds a millimeter and understand there are two sides to every story.
Now, do I think the solution is locking a kid up for three days? No. But obviously, authorities in the Dallas area are exasperated by the number of bomb threats and they're trying to send a message. At 12-years-old, the kid should have known better than to joke about having a bomb.
I even sided with clock boy until his family decided they were going to sue for millions of dollars and send him off to the Middle East for college -- even after every venerable institution in the science and education community sided with him and the president invited him for tea and crumpets. Then we saw the real side of that family.
Why is his name in this release? Why aren't any of the officials' names in this?
The most dangerous people in the world are frightened ignoramuses, they literally don't know what they are doing wrong. Ever since the ISIS proxy army got blown up by the Russians in October there has been a non-stop fear factory in the States. Funny how Russia demolishes 40% of ISIS in a week of bombing and ISIS start attacking European and American targets. Oh sure they blew up a Russain plane, but that was well outside Russian borders.
The M92 pistol used in the November 13th Paris attack was traced back to one of the arms dealers that was involved with the CIA in the Iran-Contra Affair. Gnaw on that for a bit and then look up Operation Gladio.
http://www.wesh.com/news/gun-used-in-paris-attacks-has-ties-to-delray-beach-gun-dealer/36900378
Cool charger, Mohammed. Wanna bring it to the White House?
So yeah, 99.999% of the time it's going to be a joke, a hoax, whatever. What about that 0.001%? Most police are not trained bomb experts, so they have to err on the side of caution, even if it's embarrassing when they're wrong.
The real enemy here are the little dipshits that call these threats in just to get someone in trouble.
Reminds me of a parade I was at this year when the Sikhs came by a very clearly gay person in back of my yelled "terrorist!" even the liberals who demand equality, crying about the failed HERO act are disgusting people in Texas. Beacon of tolerance I tell you.
also in terms of the stakes
Pretty much redneck retards live in Texas, so par for the course. Hope the Sikh kid sues their ass off.
Americans are so stupid and paranoid morons.
I have no problem with Sikhs. There are many where I live, I went to school with them, and have worked closely with them professionally. Our (Canada's) new minister of defense is Sikh and I'm glad we have such a qualified guy in that position. But, the fact remains that this happened:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182
Uh, one of the groups you mentioned is not like the others. Only a subset of one group is engaged in a Jihad, and that is Muslims.
Multiculturalism is a sham.
We weren't meant to coexist.
Actually, there are chances that this kid could get support from the same crowd for just one reason - being able to feed into their narrative about the eeevvviillll White racists. Up to now, they were looked at w/ suspicion for just standing up for Muslims, but by standing up for another group, they can gain some ill deserved credo.
Not that there was much support for Sikhs (and Hindus) some years back when Muslim activists were trying to snare and convert their girls to Islam
I bet ya would call the cops on this kid if you thought he was muslim...you are already blaming muslims for being victims of islamophobia and racism...
Ceremonial blade? Therein lies the problem. If the Sikh aligned themselves with the NRA and replaced their ceremonial blade with a not-so-ceremonial handgun that each of them would be required to carry, they would probably become better known and well-respected citizens ;)
It's hard to know which to fault these school officials and the police for: sheer stupidity or a lack of humor.
If pushed, I'd blame those school officials for not understanding a joke, particularly since the one making it was a 12-year-old boy, notable for being jokesters. And if an entire police department can't tell the difference between a cell-phone charger and a bomb, then in that town it must be incredibly easy to get away with a life of crime.
Reading through this, it looks as if most of you are of the mind that potty training a 17 year old is normal.
So we see a brown kid get arrested and forced to wear an ankle monitor for bringing a charger to school, and we see a white kid who killed four people while drunken driving allowed to walk around without an ankle monitor.
These are the facts.
Whatever motivations, it appears racial prejudice is necessary for these outcomes to result.
That sums up the NRA's perverse reading of the amendment very well. Since when has a sporting club been a "well organized militia"? Since when do you get to be part of a "well organized militia" without doing anything at all?
Smells like a sneaky back door tactic to me.
Once again, Texas is shown to be the armpit of planet Earth.
....To someplace there really isn't words for. 'Leaders of the western world'.: Please get your shit together.
The sikh bastard had a bomb in his turban, that's where they carry them!
Yet no one makes a peep about institutionalized Marxism. Oh wait, no one graduates college without a constructive secondary major in Marxist studies.
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The Salon article contradicts what the local Dallas news papers are saying. In Dallas the boy is accused telling the bully he had a bomb in his backpack.
The boy ADMITS he made a threat to blow of the school.
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20151221-editorial-as-armaan-can-confirm-bomb-jokes-are-likely-to-end-badly-for-pranksters.ece
The SALON article is a hit piece written to enrage libtards.
That's right, just like I don't support poison in milk to get a better score on quality tests either. Safety rules are there for a reason. In this case the small penalty designed to discourage didn't stop the stupid, so people in politics saw that it wasn't going to hurt their standing if they gouged out a bit of money by putting a tax on that stupidity. See also taxes on cigarettes for an example of picking on a group that can safely be taxed more than others. I don't make the rule or do the gouging, I'm just pointing it out.
Why you took such a thing so personally that you went full adhom on my alias (been here a while but never seen something that petty) I've got absolutely no idea.
Of course I don't get to decide. The government that you have a part in choosing, unless you are far too lazy to do your duty as a citizen and vote, is what decides with feedback from courts, interested citizens and the whole shebang. You can be and probably should be part of the process. Don't like the law - then bother someone, bicycle helmet laws have been changed that way and that's fairly similar.
Who said it was about you? Is all this shit and insults I only know about from bad movies about high schools because you thought the "tax on stupidity" was calling you stupid and not describing how the cash grab works?
So why didn't you show the letter to the cop and avoid the entire drama?
Given that it's a medical reason and not a objection to the law why the obsession as if it is not just a sensible exception to the rule?
I know a few people who are alive, myself included, for the "medical reason" that they were wearing seatbelts at the time of very serious accidents so I really don't get the obsession.
As for the "can do whatever you like with your own kids" thing, as you well know societies everywhere say otherwise and jails are full of people that have done things to their children that society considers criminal so your blustering bullshit trying to bully your way through an argument that way is extremely tasteless.
What did you expect as a response to some shit about something to do with bodily functions? You got the clue and it didn't insult you directly like the shit out of high school comedies that you sent hilariously in my direction, which made me think you are probably thirty years younger than you probably are.
I really don't get why you want an apology for a mild response to such name calling - such an attitude doesn't make you sound like someone who has used computers for a few decades either, but I'll have to take you word for it.