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doesn't mean it will be correct

Right, because we all know that the world will end on September 23rd.

No one is saying every Republican is a Nazi.

In denial much?

BILLIONAIRE Elon Musk has claimed that people should be more worried about Artificial Intelligence (AI) than the threat posed by North Korea. http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/...
and
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...

According to creimer, he should be more muscular than Dorian Yates in his prime. Yates was 5'10" about 300 pounds. He looked like this:

http://cdn.images.express.co.u...

creimer looks at that picture and thinks to himself "yeah, I look like that, I do some sitting rows, I'm about the same as a competitive bodybuilder that lives in the gym"

If he's bringing up fake news that basically means two things: Trump & Brexit.

And pizzagate and golden showers and Russian hacking and many, many others too numerous to list.

There's a metric buttload of less important fake news flowing around the MSM nowadays.

Just today a number of MSM outlets(*) report that Polish first lady Agata Kornhauser-Duda snubbed President Donald Trump by refusing to shake his hand during his visit to Poland on Thursday.

Of course, this is trivially debunked by simply looking at the images of the meet.

At this point I'm not even sure why they do it; I mean... is it really effective to falsely report something in an attempt to tear down Trump? Does false reporting advance them towards some goal?

Far right news outlets are calling out all the MSM fakeness, and because of this the integrity of the far right outlets has been steadily rising. That's starting to take a toll on the believability of the MSM.

Are they really going to continue this process of "just making shit up and printing it" until people simply don't believe them any more?

I would think that's a path to disaster, but then again I don't work at a newspaper. Maybe it's all part of some elaborate plan.

(*) WaPo, HuffPo, and Daily Express, among many others

It doesn't matter that the 'muslim ban' never went into affect. People were stranded at airports across the world, people have stopped travelling to or from the U.S. because they don't know if/when it will be enacted and if/when they will be allowed home or if they will be detained. I am from Canada, and almost all high schools in my province have stopped taking trips (for band, sports tournaments, etc.) to the United States because it is not unusual to have an immigrant in a class and no school can afford to make all the arrangements for travel just to be turned away at the border. We don't KNOW we will get turned away, but with Trump's announcements and attempts at travel restrictions that's not a risk we can take.

While the stock market in the US is doing pretty well, the fact that a single message from Trump can tank a business' stock AND THAT IT HAS HAPPENED, would be really worrying to me if I were in an industry dealing with the U.S.

It shouldn't matter about enforcement of the climate accord, it is about the principal of the matter. The U.S. could have stayed on the accord even if it wasn't being enforced, or better yet, they could have opted out by making their own which had enforcement built in if that is the issue. Instead, Trump has pulled out while pledging to use more of one of the most polluting sources of energy there is, coal. It's not about backing out as much as it is about Trump sending a loud and clear message to the world that the U.S. will pollute as much as they want, wherever they want, and damn the future generations that need to deal with their mess.

Theres what they say while they cut a deal for power and influence, and what theyve said before and behind closed doors.

Theyre for hard brexit.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

You are quite simply a liar and the Swedish government is covering up crime stats:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

I don't want Jihadi's in my house. They will not be grateful, and may kill you.

Hmm!
Some flaws here!
Firstly, Le Pen and Fillons ***WERE*** the targets of Wikileak beore:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/...
Secondly, IF wikileak don't publish any data about Le Pen, then it automatically favor her? What with that logic?

Sounds about right. Did you see the thing on netflix recently... it was a cameraman that goes to tribal places and hangs with the people a couple of days. All those really distant from modernization hunter-gatherer types seem so damned happy and unstressed. Although I do remember one African tribe having the ladies fuss at the men for not bringing in a kill for a couple of days, at least I think it was on the same show. I've watched a lot of this type of stuff lately.

This guy:

BBC Natural History Unit special, Tribes, Predators and Me,

http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

I'd like to see a class action lawsuit addressing the Windows 10 keylogger. After seeing that article I went in on my system to make sure it was not enabled and found that it was. Yet I know for a fact that I declined every option during the windows 10 install that offered to gather information on the pretense of making my experience better. I read each one very carefully and surprised myself by turning all of it off. So how did a privacy option get flipped so that Microsoft was keylogging me? I'd like to see about 10 million users sue them for that very legit complaint.

O rly?

http://www.express.co.uk/video...

God did it. He has taken a disliking to Game of Thrones and is piece by piece destroying all the featured landmarks.

http://www.express.co.uk/showb...

Well I don't think MSFT or any corp is gonna have to worry about the EU for much longer as it looks like France along with several other countries are getting ready to bail and leave Mama Merkel and her Syrian migrants to it. Can't say as I blame 'em, ever since Merkel opened the floodgates its been a disaster, rape has risen several thousand percent, countries like Sweden having to tell their women not to go out alone at night in their own country for fear of rape gangs, and a bill of 50 billion and counting just for Germany to keep all these uneducated men on the dole.

So MSFT frankly ought to just ignore them, the EU will be nothing but a memory soon enough.

I'm asking for citations where the predictions were way off.

These are a dime-a-dozen. The Internet is full of such lists assembled. But they don't necessarily disprove anything — it is normal for a scientific discipline to fail sometimes. This article even analyzes different ways of detecting and dealing with such failures.

Trouble is, successful ones are so hard to find...

With the pace of global warming increasing, some climate change experts predict that the Scottish ski industry will cease to exist within 20 years.

It is now 2017, but snow is still plentiful in Scotland. Indeed, the 2014 was the snowiest since 1945. Do you think, the 2004 prediction will come true by 2024?

“you can argue that may be our projection of [an ice-free Arctic by 2013] is already too conservative.”

Whether or not Arctic sea ice is at "record low" or not, the Arctic Ocean is decidedly not "ice-free" today.

Yet you've provided zero. Odd.

I made no claims requiring citations. I merely pointed out, that folks claiming "science is settled" typically disappear, when asked for successful prediction of their favorite science.

Nope. If you actually believe in science, I have to provide you with successful ones that survived peer review and replication

That may be too onerous a requirement in the case of Climate Science — the experiments take many years, so any replication is difficult.

It depends if George Soros funds the protests or not.

George Soros (Hillarys primary financer) instructing Hillary on what policies to carry out as Secretary of State:

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/28972

https://i.sli.mg/64gA6D.png

Top contributors for Hillary Clinton page:

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00000019&type=f

Soros admits creating the European migrant crisis:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/02/soros-admits-involvement-in-migrant-crisis-national-borders-are-the-obstacle/

Soros tells Europe to take in at least a MILLION refugees every year:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/616541/European-Union-Migrants-Refugees-George-Soros-Hungary-Viktor-Orban-Europe

Soros finances Handbooks to spur EU-bound immigration:

http://news.sky.com/story/1551853/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-migrants

Soros urges giving Ukraine $50 billion of aid to foil Russia:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-soros-idUSKBN0KH0NQ20150108

Hacked emails expose George Soros as Ukraine puppet-master:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-01/hacked-emails-expose-george-soros-ukraine-puppet-master

George Soros funds Ferguson Black Lives Matter protests:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/?page=all

Soros funds paid "protestors" to spur civil unrest:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ferguson-Missouri-paid-protesters/2015/05/25/id/646587/

Soros funds MoveOn and Media Matters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America#Funding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoveOn.org#Financial_contributors

Soros funds Black Lives Matter:

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2015/11/13/anti-american-left-funds-blacklivesmatter-now/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/?page=all

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/19/hired-black-lives-matter-protesters-start-cutthech/

Globalists Unite: Hillary Clinton Running Mate Tim Kaine Dines with George Soros Son as Donald Trumps Rise Terrifies World Elite:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/12/globalists-unite-hillary-clinton-running-mate-tim-k

I do knot know what GP believes or knows, but one would have to be have been living under a rock for the past one and a half years not to know that the use of defeat devices is very widespread in the industry. Some reports and articles easily found with your favourite search engine:

The emissions test defeat device problem in Europe is not about VW
Dieselgate At GM? Defeat Devices Claimed To Be Found In Opel Cars
Test of Fiat diesel model shows irregular emissions: Bild am Sonntag
Report on France’s Renault emissions probe omitted crucial details
French government ordered to hand over full details of Renault emissions study
PSA Group Raided by French Fraud Office in Emissions Probe
Nissan faces suit over alleged emission fraud
#Dieselgate continues: new cheating techniques
RDW emission test programme - Results of indicative tests for the presence of an unauthorised defeat device
VW, Daimler, Nissan, Mitsubishi, GM: Can We Finally Agree That Dieselgate Is An Industry Problem?
Revealed: nearly all new diesel cars exceed official pollution limits
Many car brands emit more pollution than Volkswagen, report finds

Defeat devices are hardly a recent phenomenon:
How Common Are EPA “Defeat Devices” In The Auto Industry?
Carmaker Cheating on Emissions Almost as Old as Pollution Tests

There are different ways to cheat, too:
`Shameful' Mitsubishi Fraud Risks Pushing Carmaker to Brink
This is the world now: Suzuki also admits to cheating on fuel-economy tests

It's not hard to find more. Pretty much every manufacturer cheats or has cheated in one way or another.

Global political attacks on cash (India http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl..., Pakistan http://www.financialexpress.co..., Venezuela https://www.theguardian.com/wo..., Euro http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/busi...) and gold (India gold ownership limits http://www.indianjobs4u.com/go...) and Euro currency (Italian bank bailout worries http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/busi...), US (geopolitical uncertainty from Trump, interest rate hikes http://abcnews.go.com/Business...), brexit (UK in or out of Europe http://www.express.co.uk/news/...) are all bullish for Bitcoin into 2017.

I read the report. It's extremely vague; mostly quotes a Microsoft document on generally securing your shit. It doesn't actually put forth ANY hard evidence of ANY hack, Russian or otherwise -- closest it comes is citing a snippet of source code of unverified origin.

I hate to cite McAfee since he's such a nutjob, but I think he's completely correct here:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/...
====
"Any hacker capable of breaking into something is extraordinarily capable of hiding their tracks. If I were the Chinese and I wanted to make it look like the Russians did it I would use Russian language within the code. I would use Russian techniques of breaking into organisations so there is simply no way to assign a source for any attack -- this is a fallacy." He argued the report was part of a ploy to "manipulate our opinions".

> Really? When you receive a phishing email saying "click here to reset your Gmail password", your first thought is "OMG the Russians are in my network!"? Really? What the hell does "tips them off to the fact that you're in their network" even mean in this case - he gave them his GMAIL password.

You're confusing leaks, which is just sad because I wrote a guide to help people keep the three different leaks clear. This report is related to the DNC leaks which alleged the presence of RATs, etc. being found after an investigation caused by the emails being leaked to Wikileaks. Podesta was phished in a completely separate incident.

Those are two completely separate items, and there were reports of phishing leading to a malware download in some of the reports on the DNC leak, which is the incident I was talking about. I can see why you conflated that with the more famous phishing in the Podesta dump. It's really easy to conflate all this information (by design).

Ironically, even if we go to just the Podesta dump, the actual phishing email specifically claimed that Podesta should worry about Ukrainian hackers from 134.249.139.239. Quoting from the thread in relevant part:

> Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your Google Account
> john.podesta@gmail.com.
>
> Details:
> Saturday, 19 March, 8:34:30 UTC
> IP Address: 134.249.139.239
> Location: Ukraine

(emphasis added)

You're also confused here:

> Due to an unfortunate typo by Charles Delavan

It's more than just a "typo" and we covered that on Slashdot when it came up (including yours truly). He also told him to do a password reset--something completely unnecessary for a fake attack. This also ignores the words of Sara Latham in that thread saying: "The gmail one is REAL" This was discussed extensively in the Slashdot story's comments.

Hackers don't normally want a target to realize they're hacked at all. And they were surely tipped off by these sloppy, noisy attacks. Podesta also had other passwords in his email that got used, including someone from 4chan messing with his Twitter account. They're probably sloppy enough to reuse passwords if they fall for this, too. Usually once they own your email they do password resets and leverage the access against other systems.

> Oh I see, you're an uber fan rooting against the other team.

I'm independent. Go check my Slashdot history for me supporting Obama back in 2008 if you like. I'm more than happy to give Colin Powell (and other Republicans, including that member of Trump's staff) their share of blame for bad OPSEC, too, as can be seen from my Slashdot history. I discussed that back here along with the entire email where Hillary & Colin discuss how to break every rule of operational security and worm their ways around the Presidential Records Act in ways that would make Nixon jealous.

Inasmuch as I am partisan, it's because I hate lying.

I hated it when Bush lied. I hate when Hillary & co. lie. Watching Obama trying to sabotage Israel and keep us from working with Russia to crush Isis murderers in Syria is perhaps the most disappointed I've been with him in his entire tenure. When Islamic militants are murdering Russian diplomats, not to mention this other murder by Isis, you have to quest

Your link does not support your claim. My original question: Why we would see methane release now when it wasn't (apparently, due to lack of runaway warming) 8000 years ago still stands

We do see methane release now. That is not in question. You have not provided evidence that we did not see methane release 8000 years ago. There were certainly feedbacks in play during the transition from the glacial phase to the current interglacial. This may have been one of them.

Also, there is no such mentality in the progressive community to exclude whites in any way shape or form.

B U L L S H I T

The vitriol of anti-white hatred (especially white MALES) coming from the SJW left these days is fucking palpable. The level of white guilt and white self-hatred in particular would be funny if it weren't so dangerous. It's gotten to the point where I strongly suspect that we would already be seeing "Whites need not apply" addendums to many job postings if that weren't still technically illegal. Oh wait, in the UK at least, we already are.

You mean besides it getting worse? How's that threat to democracy working out for you guys? And it's a trend? And it's a trend that continues to be constant or increasing. FYI you can find the actual poll data very easily.

True. I am trying to master the art of using his rage against him, like a kind of verbal judo. By holding up a mirror to his posts, sometimes I can make people see how absurd they are, how far divorced from reality he is.

Divorced from reality means the actual statements of a person/group/actions shown to you. Gotcha. That makes plenty of sense, or let's jump back to the actual post. Or are you going to claim that the Crown and inquiries recorded numbers are fake? Perhaps you'd like to claim that when the head of the inquiry said "he cases continue to be on-going in Rotherham, and the police and council continue their stonewalling under fear of being labeled racist." I'm sure the person you're replying to will come flying out now and say "but source..." or something. Despite it having linked FOI documents.

My weakness is framing. The alt-right is really good at framing stuff in a way that makes their position seem reasonable. I need to be better at countering that.

Having said that, I try to limit the number of times I reply to him. It's quite depressing and tiring.

That moment when you believe that someone is alt-right, but in reality it's all made up in your mind. Just like you believe that there's rage. Instead of my absolute pity for you, that despite having the proof of something jammed under your nose, you'll disregard it because it doesn't fit your political agenda. Which you hold more dear, then the actual lives your ideology is effecting.

Maybe you should check those stats...

http://www.independent.co.uk/l...
http://bgr.com/2016/10/03/ipho...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...
http://www.digitaltrends.com/m...
http://www.express.co.uk/life-...

They would be much more discrete than that.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

"Another girl, going under the pseudonym Lizzie, said: "I know a few girls who have come forward recently and been told they are being racist and I know a lot that won't come forward and to be fair I can't blame them."

This is what is still going on in Rotherham. Government can't or won't fix the atrocious situations occurring because of the utter failure of multiculturalism (it's success is mandated by the holiest laws in existence today, Human Rights, thus for them there can be no alternative). The only way for government to maintain the status quo is to prevent the native population from organizing. This is what this law is all about.

Here is what a Galaxy Note7 looks like inside. The CPU is behind the metal cover left of the battery. This is basically how most modern phones look like inside (except Sony, they still have the CPU above the battery).

You are VERY mistaken WRT to foreign policy

And here is what Daesh thinks.
This is interesting in that a daesh expert believes that they will attack us like they attacked Paris to influence their election. And Daesh hopes that Trump wins according to them

Finally, This one sums it all up best.

But hey, look around. You can actually find articles written that will support your position, but, they are very far and few in-between and none by experts on China, Daesh, AQ, Russia, etc.

And your data is... ? Nothing? Nothing at all? Hard video proof versus a mac fanboi's vapid claims?

And your data is... ? Nothing? Nothing at all? Hard video proof versus a mac fanboi's vapid claims?

As I said: I don't believe that is "Hard video proof" of ANYTHING, other than the OS versions are pretty close to the same, performance-wise.

And of course, your "standard" is impossible for me to meet; since I cannot go backwards as far as OS installation on my personal iPhone 4s or iPad 2.

Seriously, I watched the video, and it really didn't seem that different overall. And I really would have liked to see more "tests" that didn't rely so heavily on internet-speed; because the "local" operations seemed just about identical across the OS versions.

And most importantly, what I DIDN'T see was a progressive slow-down across the versions. IOW, you notice they stopped putting the "1 2 3.." numbers across the top of the displays (denoting their completion-order for each "test"), because 1) There was hardly enough time to see a difference for most of the tests; 2) There was no progressive-slowdown as the OS number increased.

Interesting video, though, FWIW.

Now if you want to see an interesting horse-race, take a look at this video.

Before rescuing the planet from carbon emissions the Swedes might want to rescue their country first:

SWEDEN IN CHAOS: Number of ‘no-go zones’ INCREASED as police lose control over violence

Sweden turns on migrants amid rise in violence and sex attacks

Sweden on the BRINK: Malmö in flames as vengeful thugs set cars alight

Before rescuing the planet from carbon emissions the Swedes might want to rescue their country first:

SWEDEN IN CHAOS: Number of ‘no-go zones’ INCREASED as police lose control over violence

Sweden turns on migrants amid rise in violence and sex attacks

Sweden on the BRINK: Malmö in flames as vengeful thugs set cars alight

Before rescuing the planet from carbon emissions the Swedes might want to rescue their country first:

SWEDEN IN CHAOS: Number of ‘no-go zones’ INCREASED as police lose control over violence

Sweden turns on migrants amid rise in violence and sex attacks

Sweden on the BRINK: Malmö in flames as vengeful thugs set cars alight

You mean like this warning?

http://www.express.co.uk/life-...

Lets take France as an example. Recent polls indicate that Marine Le Pen (conservative party) has a good chance of winning next year's presidential election.
Link here
She has already promised a Frexit type referendum
link here should she win.

Lets take France as an example. Recent polls indicate that Marine Le Pen (conservative party) has a good chance of winning next year's presidential election.
Link here
She has already promised a Frexit type referendum
link here should she win.

The UK is mostly in a poor region for solar so that is not really an option, and wind performance isn't exactly spectacular. They would have to install massive amounts of offshore wind overcapacity to significantly reduce carbon production, which would be even more expensive. Their options are limited.

oh.. so please.. tell my why it is that 57.7 per cent of Scotland's electricity came from renewables in 2015? Do you think it' because Scotland does rather well with shitloads of offshore and wind generation? .. I know it is .. try researching before opening your mouth and letting your belly rumble. we currently use the following... Hydro-electric power Wind power Wave power Tidal power Biofuels Biodiesel Biogas, anaerobic digestion and landfill gas Solid biomass Micro systems Solar energy Geothermal energy And are world leaders on research too! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and behold the plethora of renewable stuff that gives us more than half our energy needs in Scotland... so tell me... how does it feel to be someone who could not be more wrong if your name was W . Wrongy Wrongenstien???

And how much is solar and wind, the two items I was speaking to? Solar barely registers on the scale, wind is the only growing sector, that is why I spoke of it.

There are SHITELOADS and i mean SHITELOADS of wind generation in Scotland... We have an abundance of shite weather and wind to spin those puppies..LOL.. solar.. i'll grant you that. not so much but there are those who have them on their roofs. Wind farms.. seriously.. if you even just have a drive from Edinburgh to glasgow.. glasgow to Ayr or anywhere to anywhere here you will find a veritable fuck-ton of wind generation both on and offshore(for offshore see Donald Trump's pissy fit over the fact there's a rather big one that's expanding in Menie where he tried to take the Scottish Govt to court and lost... lost ...lost .
http://www.express.co.uk/news/.....
the below report from 2015(capacity has expanded since then...)

The country now has 2,683 wind turbines capable of generating 5,115MW of electricity, although there are 282 more under construction and a further 2,202 with planning consent.

Once they are all operational, Scotland will have an installed wind power capacity of 12,769MW - the sixth highest in the world behind China, the USA, Germany, Spain and India.

It would also result in the world's highest density of wind power capacity, with 163MW for every 1,000km2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
1 Offshore Wind Farms
2 Large wind farms

2.1 Black Law Wind Farm
2.2 Braes of Doune Wind Farm
2.3 Clyde Wind Farm
2.4 Crystal Rig Wind Farm
2.5 Farr Wind Farm
2.6 Hadyard Hill Wind Farm
2.7 Robin Rigg Wind Farm
2.8 Whitelee Wind Farm

3 Under construction or proposed
3.1 Viking Wind Farm
3.2 Offshore wind farms

4 Community ownership of wind farms
so tell me... plus there the other renewables and smaller wind farms and an assload of farmers who have two to three turbines on their land as it generates extra income and gets them free electricity........ Sir.. I call you on on your BS!

The ads are no longer up, but:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
http://www.breitbart.com/londo...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

Note those are from May. More recently:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

BBC are racist cunts, and the fuckwits modding me 'troll' can go chew on a brick.

The ads are no longer up, but:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
http://www.breitbart.com/londo...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

Note those are from May. More recently:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

BBC are racist cunts, and the fuckwits modding me 'troll' can go chew on a brick.

They don't have to accuse, SJW's actually do it.

Like this and like this and like this and like this and like this and like this and like this and like this and like this and this and some more of this and more stuff like this.

And I've just started, that's from the last week or so. So let's fix that: Any time someone mentions SJW, they're pointing out that the left is full of regressive children that want to ban anything that doesn't fit with their very narrow view of the world, and will do anything to ban, block, censor or attack(physically/emotionally/virtually or IRL) you in any form in order to make it happen. And the left has a serious regressive problem today, just like the right did back in the 70's and 80's when the extreme-right were firebombing abortion clinics or assaulting gays. Today it's environmentalists burning down property or letting animals from testing labs loose, or groups other groups(like BLM, 3rd wave feminists or the modern anarchist movements) doxing or swatting people in order to silence them and/or operating smear campaigns and labeling people as misogynists/sexists/etc in order to scare them away or silence them, or to make them look so bad no one will take their side.

These things happen when the government represents the interests of its own people instead of the interests of the globalist elite

Uh, what? You mean the referendum didn't benefit people who made a killing from the Murdoch press backing Leave? That the outcome won't benefit the people who were pushing for TTIP, whose strongest backer in the EU was the British prime minister and who are now pushing for a direct US/UK treaty that won't have the strong opposition from the European Parliament able to block it? That voting to take power from the people who just passed the General Data Protection Regulation and giving it to the people who just voted to pass the Investigatory Powers Bill is good for the people? That voting more power to the people in Westminster, who have consistently underspent per capita on the poorest areas in the EU at the expense of the City of London, and taking it away from the organisation that has been redressing that balance will help the people?

75% turn out of a vote is not low

No ID was required to vote, except in Northern Ireland. It's easier to get a high turn-out if you can vote for anybody who's dead, ill or gone fishing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

That would make it very hard indeed for the UK to escape from the EU. In the previous referendum of 1975 (in which I voted "Yes" to continued membership of the EEC) the government and media almost unanimously recommended membership. Moreover, voters were assured that the EEC was only a free trade area, and membership would never involve any significant loss of sovereignty. (Although at the time all political and business players knew very well that the intention was to create a European superstate and eliminate all sovereign nations).

So this year's referendum was the first chance that UK citizens have ever had to escape from the EU, in the knowledge that it does intend to become a political union. Indeed, the only chance there would ever be. If someone is in bus that catches fire, they cannot be criticized for seizing any chance to jump out - even if that is risky.

See, for some interesting background, http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

Too young to remember? It is extensively taught in history lessons in schools.
http://www.express.co.uk/comme...

This is why Germany insists on austerity measures - the scare of hyperinflation is still very much present here.

Brexit will spell END of EU and bring ‘DESTRUCTION of Western civilisation’, says eurocrat.

Yes, really. So you can buy a rifles with a Bible verse on it. That is completely equivalent to Muslims tossing gays off buildings or Iran executing gays. Yes, completely equivalent! Why, put a Bible verse on your gun and you're as bad as burning 19 women to death because they wouldn't let you rape them.

Go up to a Christian in Rome and state you're gay. The worst that will happen is they'll tell you you're a sinner and you need to repent or go to hell. Now do the same in Mecca, and the Government will try you and sentence you to execution. Yes, I can see your point. A verse on a firearm is 100% equivalent with how you'll be treated by the rest of Islam for coming out as gay!

Which I agree is unacceptable, even though an iOS version update is nowhere near as hazardous as a Windows version update.

Uh...

From http://www.express.co.uk/news/... [express.co.uk] "John Coleman, who co-founded the Weather Channel, shocked academics by insisting the theory of man-made climate change was no longer scientifically credible." Also, http://www.nationmultimedia.co... [nationmultimedia.com] to quote: ***===> "New studies flip climate-change notions upside down The sun will go into "hibernation" mode around 2030, and it has already started to get sleepy. At the Royal Astronomical Society's annual meeting in July, Professor Valentina Zharkova of Northumbria University in the UK confirmed it - the sun will begin its Maunder Minimum (Grand Solar Minimum) in 15 years. Other scientists had suggested years ago that this change was imminent, but Zharkova's model is said to have **near-perfect** accuracy." and "Our sun doesn't maintain a constant intensity. Instead, it cycles in spans of approximately 11 years. When it's at its maximum, it has the highest number of sunspots on its surface in that particular cycle. When it's at its minimum, it has almost none. When there are more sunspots, the sun is brighter. When there are fewer, the sun radiates less heat toward Earth. But that's not the only cooling effect of a solar minimum. A dim sun doesn't deflect cosmic rays away from Earth as efficiently as a bright sun. So, when these rays enter our atmosphere, they seed clouds, which in turn cool our planet even more and increase precipitation in the form of rain, snow and hail." ******* I'll trust these guys over Bill Nye, thank you. *******