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Review: Men In Black II

The first Men In Black came out of nowhere five years ago. Barry Sonnenfeld stole the box office that summer with the original, strange, hilarious, spoofy sci-fi comedy. Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones were the perfect pair for this inventive "who-are-the-aliens-in-our-midst" romp, playing secret agents working for a super-secret government agency keeping an eye on beings from outer space. It was perfect for the era of the still-vibrant X-Files. The sequel, inevitably, has lost some of the surprise. But it's still plenty of fun. Spoilage warning: plot discussed, not ending, not that it matters here.

The story line is almost irrelevant. Will Smith (Agent Jay) has to neuralize one dumb partner after another, and ends up with a smart-mouthed, sometimes hilarious pug for a partner. He pines for his former sidekick Tommy Lee Jones (Agent Kay), now neuralized and working for the institution with the greatest number of aliens, the U.S. Post Office. (The movie, like the first, gets off some great double entendres and inside jokes).

The movie opens with a campy Peter Graves spoof on the Ed Woods' style sci-fi movies of the 50's and 60's. Simply, Lara Flynn Boyle plays Serleena, the powerful alien queen ravaging earth to get her hands on a distant planet's light source. If she isn't stopped, the world will be destroyed, of course. Her prescence forces the MIB agency (headed by Sid, played by Rip Torn) to go and de-neuralize Kay, who comes back to re-join his buddy and save the world.

This is all beside the point, of course. The whole film is a device for Sonnenfeld's loopy rags on Martha Stewart (not perhaps as funny as it would have been a month ago) and Michael Jackson. There are hilarious locker room and worm aliens, and blessedly, the movie never takes itself seriously for a single second. Like the better parts of the Scream series, the movie ends up spoofing itself and the people who loved it.

If you go see it, all you need to know is that the surprise originality of the first is missing, mostly because we know what to expect, but the loopy and inventive spirit of MIB is very much alive.

CmdrTaco my 2 bits is that this movie was bland. It probably is my least favorite of the last half dozen movies I've seen. I loved the original, but this just doesn't have the punch of the first. Its got its moments, but the whole ride is weak. Watch Lilo & Stich instead ;)

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  1. M in B by Shant3030 · · Score: 1, Informative

    As corny and stupid of a concept MIB 1 was, I loved it. I despise Will Smith, but he was tolerable. I have free movie passes and might go see this one...

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    1. Re:M in B by Stides · · Score: 1

      Go see Minority Report... now that is a good story.

    2. Re:M in B by Shant3030 · · Score: 1

      You're right. I feel bad for black people with respect to how black actors are cast. most roles for african american males involve playing some uneducated, ghetto, hood rat. its sad. spike lee does a good job of portraying real life characters. sidney potier is amazing, but unfortunately, very few black americans follow his path to stardom.

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  2. Best line by xercist · · Score: 4, Funny

    "He's a Ballchinian!"

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    1. Re:Best line by Random+Bystander · · Score: 1

      Mod that one up. I laughed my head off at that part, while my girlfriend gave me a blank look.

      Loved the ending too. Don't care what everyone else thinks.

    2. Re:Best line by Knobby · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For those wondering "WTF?," Take a look here. On the seventh line, there's a link to an image of a ballchin boy..

    3. Re:Best line by Darby · · Score: 1

      I laughed my head off at that part, while my girlfriend gave me a blank look.

      Funny. I missed it and my girlfriend was laughing her head off.

    4. Re:Best line by cerberusti · · Score: 1

      I thought the best line was: "Hey its a neuraliz.. "

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    5. Re:Best line by Ioldanach · · Score: 2
      Loved the ending too. Don't care what everyone else thinks.

      I heartily agree, except for one thing... I think the scene would've worked better under or after the credits. I think it really felt tacked on, and would've worked better as part of the credit roll.

  3. More sequels? by Theologian · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The sequel, inevitably, has lost some of the surprise.

    It has also lost some of the originality. What happened to new movies with original screenplays?

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    1. Re:More sequels? by TheKey · · Score: 1

      Memento.

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    2. Re:More sequels? by someonehasmyname · · Score: 1

      Christopher Nolan is the shit.

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    3. Re:More sequels? by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 1

      Agreed. And Guy Pearce is the only one who should play Constantine. Movie studios suck.

    4. Re:More sequels? by Mika_Lindman · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I quess those got trashed when movie companies noticed that it isn't good business to spend 100,000,000$ on a movie that sells 20,000,000$.

      There is little space for originality in consumerpleasing business. Don't blame movie companies, blame people who don't go see original movies.

    5. Re:More sequels? by CptNerd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, really, can you believe they made a sequel to "Fellowship of the Ring?"

      I mean, we've *seen* hobbits and elves and wizards, where are the *original* ideas?

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    6. Re:More sequels? by MeowMeow+Jones · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to mention the fact that they shamelessly ripped the story off from a book.

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  4. Name is wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Rip Torn's character is Zed. Not Sid.

    1. Re:Name is wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Well.. actually he is "Z", which is pronounced "Zed".

    2. Re:Name is wrong by scott1853 · · Score: 1

      Will Smith is "J", not "Jay"

    3. Re:Name is wrong by Junta · · Score: 2

      Interestingly enough, "Jay" and "Kay" is the way it is written in a number of places, go to a neighborhood lenscrafters if you don't believe me...

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    4. Re:Name is wrong by scott1853 · · Score: 2

      I just watched the original last week. Single letters were definitely on the lockers they showed. Besides, Kay is a girls name. Are they just catering to really stupid people then?

    5. Re:Name is wrong by Junta · · Score: 2

      Probably, I know in the original movie they were just letters, and it made far more sense than this 'Jay' and 'Kay' stuff in the lenscrafter's ad campaign.

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    6. Re:Name is wrong by scott1853 · · Score: 2

      I just check the MIB2 website and they listed him as Kay there too.

    7. Re:Name is wrong by KaizerWill · · Score: 1

      well, i got used to this kind of thing reading starwars novels, which phonetically spell C3P0 as seethreepio or some such nonsense. i can stomach the use of Jay and Kay. But this 'Sid' Business is unforgivable. MIB is one of the greatest pieces of moving literature of all time, and to make a mistake that glaring cannot be forgivin. boo to the author of this review. boo, i say

    8. Re:Name is wrong by LoveShack · · Score: 1

      It's "J" and "K" on the lockers. But in the credits, it's "Jay" and "Kay". That really bugged me when I saw it. Being identified by a letter is "cool"...being identified by "Kay" is just lame.

    9. Re:Name is wrong by THX1138 · · Score: 1

      That is done for the inbreed local yokals from Buttlick.

      *PICTURE WOBBLES*

      Hey, Sister-Maw-Warf, did y'all done seen whwere aycting in that there part of tha black feller? I done lookied through the rolly words at the end of tha pichir fer his name, but I don't rightly recall seeing tha fellers name. Allin I saws was a feller with tha word J but fer tha larfe of me I don recall seeing the name of Jay upin there on tha screen. Did you Daddy-Cousin-Brother Jed? You done gadyated fifth grade after all. And who in the ame of Sam Hill is Sid? I don't recall seeing his name. Y'all don't thinkin that ijut Son-Brother of mine, John Katz, got that names all mussed up with a real person in the pichur, does ya? Thats the last time I let him goes to the theeata without adults.

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    10. Re:Name is wrong by THX1138 · · Score: 1

      Look at the name of the reviewer. Are you surprised it isn't correct?

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  5. Lilo and Stitch all the way! by JoshWurzel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Saw Lilo and Stitch opening weekend. Like attendence at Powerpuff Girls, we were the only ones in our demographic in the theater. We also laughed harder and louder than anyone else. People probably thought we were stoned.

    Speaking of which...why hasn't there been a slashdot review of Lilo and Stitch?

    1. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I didn't know elementary schools issued degrees. Bachelor of Circles?

    2. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Megumi_Slashbot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree... Lilo and Stitch was an excellent movie. I can provide the quick review: This movie follows the Disney tradition of a great movie after a stinker. For example, Toy Story 2 was great while Dinosaur was nauseating. Lilo and Stitch, thankfully, comes after a bomb and is the best movie I've seen all year. Without spoiling the plot, it's a great movie for all ages. The interaction between the girl, Lilo, and the alien, Stitch, is priceless and had the theatre in stitches *no pun intended* as well as in tears at some parts. Guys, go see it... disregard your slashbotting urges to say that it's Disney and evil. On another note: I think the reason MIB2 gets more cover on Slashdot is it has more face value to slashbotters than a "kids movie" like Lilo and Stitch. Anyways my point's been made *HUGS* Megumi. english lessons going a long way!

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    3. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by rirugrat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Funny story: I took my 7 year old daughter to the matinee showing of "Lilo and Stitch" on July 4th. After seeing sexy/violent trailers for "Matrix Reloaded" and "Die Another Day", I had a feeling that something was wrong. Then I see "Lucasfilm Ltd" and that familiar theme...yup, the theater was mistakenly showing "SW:AOTC".

      All of the other parents marched out of the theater with me to get the manager. Within 20 minutes we were watching the correct film (which was pretty good).

      I never thought I'd see the day where I would be very upset about seeing a Star Wars movie instead of a Disney one (and given 2 free movie tickets for being "inconvenienced" to boot)!

      Chris

    4. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 2
      The same reason there hasn't been review of Blues Clues: The Movie.
      Most readers here have received their elementary school degrees.


      Not that it's always obvious from the level of discourse on /.

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    5. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by macdaddy357 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Meesa thinking Stitch sound mooey mooey like Jar Jar. Meesa no liking that. Meesa telling George Lucas mooey mooey quick.

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    6. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by penginkun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is the problem with America. There's this attitude that cartoons are ONLY for kids and that adults won't be interested in them. The "adult-oriented" 'toons are either slapstick comedy (ie the Simpsons), hyper-violent Japanese imports, or pr0n. (Also usually imported from Japan. America's really lacking in imagination, I guess.)

      I LOVED the Emperor's New Groove. It was funny and fun to watch. It has a moral, but it doesn't beat you over the head with it the way, say, The Lion King does. While I have yet to see Lilo and Stitch, I plan to ASAP. It too looks to be a lot of fun.

    7. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Kintanon · · Score: 1

      Having children is very expensive & well worth it. Having a husband or wife is almost as expensive & barely worth it.

      Gee, I'm glad you value your wife so highly. Frankly I hope she's left you by now if you value you your kids more than you value her. It's rather a disgusting sentiment hold children in higher regard than adults.

      Kintanon

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    8. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by rirugrat · · Score: 1

      Your children are your own flesh and blood, your hertiage, your legacy...

      Your spouse is just some guy/girl you met in a bar.

      Chris

      P.S. If you think about .sig files too much, then you need help.

    9. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Kintanon · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Married no kids, not having any.
      I thought about my decisions, did you think about yours?

      Kintanon

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    10. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by GodInHell · · Score: 1

      Bitterness is not a way of life.

      Arogance is a sign of youth.

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      This is the end of the line.

    11. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Kintanon · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Your .sig says something about you. It's a statement that you want associated with EVERYTHING you say on this site. To me that makes it a fairly strong sentiment. And when someone is using that sentiment to devalue someone who they supposedly love enough to spend the rest of their life with makes me upset. Your children aren't inherently special just because they are yours. They could end up being anything, serial killers, rapists, idiots, bullies, geniuses, doctors, lawyers, programmers, anything. Your spouse should be cherished, loved, and respected. If all your spouse is to you is some guy/girl you met in a bar then I think your life must be a pretty sad spectacle. I love my wife dearly, I knew her for years before we got married. We don't want children and one of the reasons is because children would detract from our personal relationship.
      I just can't fathom the idea that a child, someone who doesn't even have a fully formed personality yet, could be held up as more valuable or interesting than an adult whom you are supposedly in love with. It's just wrong.

      Kintanon

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    12. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by rirugrat · · Score: 1

      Yea, he's too busy with his Dungeons and Dragons campaigns and 3rd edition prestige classes to get married/have children.

      Nice website though...

      Chris

    13. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Kintanon · · Score: 1

      Who's bitter? or arrogant?
      I'm happy with the decisions I made and I encourage other people to think about their life choices and make concious decisions. I hate to see people ruin their lives by having kids at 16 or even 19 or 20. They don't realize that once you have a child you will spend most of the rest of your life caring for it. The odds of you performing any truly valuable service for humanity just dropped to near 0. Dedicated achievers almost always get complaints from spouses that they don't spend enough time with the kids. So you neglect your job, or you neglect your kids. It's a matter of choice. Having kids isn't for everyone. Some people can have kis and a career and do both well, most people can't. I just want people to think about it before they have children.

      Kintanon

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    14. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Pfhreakaz0id · · Score: 2

      Watch Toy Story 1,2, Monster's Inc, or the Emperor's New Groove. One of the joys of having kids is discovering that these animated "kids" movies have plenty of adult-oriented humor.

      So, in the spirit of things, imagine this in a Kronk voice:
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    15. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Scrameustache · · Score: 2


      > why hasn't there been a slashdot review of Lilo and Stitch?

      Because a lot of us are adults and/or prefer adult-oriented humor (not porn, but some post-grade school wit is always appreciated).


      Yeah, and some of us are adults who SEE THE FREAKIN' MOVIE before assuming its got no adult-grade wit and humour (or read reviews to see if it does, hence the original question).

      I saw the movie, its pretty damn funny, with lots of grown-up laughs that the kiddies did not get (and plenty of zany antics so the toddlers will laugh their heads off).

      Sheesh, you sound like my dad: "Cartoons are for kids, don't watch cartoons!"

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    16. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Sabalon · · Score: 2

      Rugrats in Paris. My daughter has it and I just saw it finally on Sunday - hilarious...plenty of references to other things that the kids don't get.

    17. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Pfhreakaz0id · · Score: 2

      Love the 'rats.... thought the first one was better.

      We're doomed Chucky, doomed I tells ya!

    18. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Kintanon · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      I'm not saying he can't live his life that way, just that I can't understand it. If he's seperated from his wife, fine I can understand why he would value her less than the children. But if they are together, then I think it's fairly disturbing to value the children above her.

      Kintanon

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    19. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'm 30 - and yes, I saw L. First part of the movie was really disappointing; they didn't do anything to differentiate the hula dancers, and Lilo's sister has REALLY thick legs.

      Note: I hate the way Disney "overreacts" all of the characters' movements. Everything is WAY too exaggerated.

      The movie moved kinda slow, and frankly the Child Services guy shouldn't have been hanging around them so much, but it is a kid's movie after all.

      Memorable scenes where ILMAO:

      One-eyed alien's air tank gets blown, and they go bouncing across the water

      One-potato-two-potato-I-win!

      Stitch persuading the evil mad scientist to help him in about 2 seconds

      (I'm sure there were more, but those really stood out.)

      In short, the movie is worth the matinee price + popcorn and drink. Go in with Lowered Expectations(TM) and be prepared to laugh in front of lots of kids. ;-)
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    20. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Kintanon · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Hehe. The site was created in approx 20 minutes a couple of months ago. If you check the root site, kyrina.org You'll see that it's my wife's site. I am married quite happily, thank you. One of the things I do for amusement is RP. I also play video games, am a hardcore martial artist and amateur gymnast. I don't plan on having children for many reasons, one of which is that it would take away from my relationship with my wife, another is that I spent many years helping to raise my cousins and I've seen how stressful and time consuming children are. I am also a firm believer in Zero Population Growth, and since so many people are having litters of children I think it would be irresponsible for me to introduce any more children into the world. I also dislike people who value children higher than adults. People are people. They are all worth exactly the same amount until they do something to distinguish themselves otherwise.

      Kintanon

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    21. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by bsartist · · Score: 2

      Good lord, man, his sig is a joke. It's not meant to be taken so seriously, so lighten up already.

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    22. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by modulo · · Score: 1

      Because GRUB is more popular now?

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    23. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by DohDamit · · Score: 2

      I bet you're fun at parties.

    24. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      Or my favorite...

      When Pancha and Kuzco (as a llama) are in the restaurant, and Kuzco is dressed as a woman to get in the door...

      Waitress: Welcome to the Muggy Meat Shack, home of the Mug of Meat.
      Pacha: We're newly-weds *dumb grin*
      Waitress: Bless you, sir, for coming out in public...

      The entire restaurant scene is nothing short of brilliant comedic genius.

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    25. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by eoeoe · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Simpsons is slapstick comedy? I think the Simpsons is the last bastion of great subtle humor layered underneath great ostentatious humor.

      - Justin

    26. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      I got a new car for my wife. Wow! what a trade! IT'S A JOKE! LIGHTEN UP!

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    27. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by EvilAlien · · Score: 1

      And we should care because?...

      Where are the mod downs for offtopic when you need them?

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    28. Re:Lilo and Stitch all the way! by daviddennis · · Score: 1, Troll

      How is she going to know which AC to contact upon her return to Japan?

      This provoked my curiosity; nice picture indeed. But how do I know this is a correct picture of the poseter? After all, she admits she's a troll.

      Are trolls not legendary for posting bogus pictures of themselves?

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  6. ChubChubs!! by taeric · · Score: 4, Funny

    Say what you will for this movie. The short that preceded it was absolutely hilarious.

    I believe I laughed more for those few minutes then I have at many full length movies.

    I don't want to start too many spoilers on a root thread, so instead of listing the appearances, I'll just ask. Who all did people notice that they think may have been missed. I'll look for them next time. :)

    1. Re:ChubChubs!! by nordaim · · Score: 1

      My roommate and I both agreed that the ChubChubs were worth the price of admission.

      Though I think they were hard to miss, my favorite cameo appearance was Yoda and Darth Vader arm-wrestling.

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    2. Re:ChubChubs!! by Royster · · Score: 2

      How can you spoil a short feature?

      I liked Robby the Robot dancing with the Robot from Lost in Space.

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    3. Re:ChubChubs!! by ilyag · · Score: 1

      Have everyone noticed it? Was it only United Artist Cinemas? How tight was it connected to the actual movie?

    4. Re:ChubChubs!! by iamedd · · Score: 1

      Does anyone know if there is an MPEG for this somewhere?

  7. Um... by Masem · · Score: 5, Informative
    (headed by Sid, played by Rip Torn)

    "Sid"?? I'm pretty sure (and now positive after an IMDB check) that it's "Zed".

    However, I will agree that the movie wasn't like the first, and for some reason, most of the CGI SFX seems poorly meshed with the rest of the visuals (for example, the two-headed alien). And TLJones didn't have the same deadpan that his character really needed (compared with the first). I will say, however, that getting Patrick Warburton (star of "The Tick") to play Agent T was a good choice and provided some good opening laughs.

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    1. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Zed, of course, is how Canadians pronounce the last letter in the alphabet. Considering the other's names in the movies it only makes sence that his name would be "Z" and not "Sid".

    2. Re:Um... by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      Yes, it's Zed. They're all letters of the alphabet, and Zed is how non-Americans say what we call "Zee". :-)

    3. Re:Um... by dittrich · · Score: 1

      I didn't notice that Patrick Warburton's character was Agent T. T for Tick, perhaps? Had to be on purpose...

    4. Re:Um... by Docrates · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      I'm sorry, but I need to do this, and I'm not being sarcastic:

      and Zed is how non-Americans say what we call "Zee"

      America is a continent. The United States of America is a country that calls itself America becuase United-States-men-and-women just doesn't sound right. I understand all that, but when US people refer to non-US people they need to be considerate of the fact that calling, say, Canadians Non-American is just wrong.

      Canada is also a country in America, as is the US and Mexico and Panama and Costa Rica. Vicente Fox is every bit as american as George Bush. If you travel outside the US, or talk to an international crowd, keep in mind that to most non-US americans, the fact that the US calls itself America is ofensive and seems extremely arrogant.

      If you don't care about the opinion of an international crowd, then perhaps you're posting in the wrong website. Unless, of course, Taco declares Slashdot to be an all AMERICAN (as in US) website and all other "foreigners" are guests that need to conform. If that's the case, lemme know, becuase in that case, I am posting in the wrong website.

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    5. Re:Um... by flewp · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      While I do agree with you, I still think referring to US citizens as american is still somewhat correct. After all, we're the United States of America. As you pointed out, United States-men-and-women just doesn't sound right. Canadian, Mexican, Costa Rican all sound "right". So I guess calling us Americans is in a way right, but to say that someone else from a (North/Latin/South) American country isn't American is wrong. I don't think when someone from the US calls themselves american, they're trying to be arrogant or offensive, it's just that that's what we're used to.

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    6. Re:Um... by Keith+Mickunas · · Score: 1

      What do you call people from the UK? United Kingdomites? No, you call them British, Welsh, English, Scottish, or whatever. Its more or less the same. Most people throughout the world refer to US citizens as Americans, and Canadian citizens as Canadians.

      Furthermore, America is not a continent. There are two continents, North America and South America. Going by your definition everybody from either continent should be referred to as American. If you're going to go around correcting people on their usage of the term American, you should put a little effort in it and try and be fair to all the other "American" countries.

    7. Re:Um... by ashitaka · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      I'm sorry, but I need to do this, and I'm not being sarcastic:

      No, you're being ignorant.

      When living in Japan I was always asked "Are you American?" or "What part of America are you from?" (usually by Americans) To which my universal reply was "I'm Canadian."

      "Amerika-jin" means someone from the United States
      "Kanada-jin" means someone from Canada.

      And that's how the rest of the world sees it.

      Why do you think we complain obout the obnoxious "American" tourists visiting Canada?

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    8. Re:Um... by Docrates · · Score: 1

      This is not going anywhere. Obviously people from the US and Canada don't have a problem calling people from the US the ONLY americans.

      You're all completely disregarding the fact that this is not the case in other countries in the American Continent. Ask ANY Mexican, Argentinian, Peruvian, you name it. I don't expect you all to understand this, really. It might have to do with the fact that in english there's no way to make United States-men-and -women sound right, but in spanish you can always say Gringo, and yes, in Panama, for example, a Mexican can be called an american.

      BTW, In Latin America (not sure if it's in all countries though), people are taught in school that America is a continent, North America, Central America and South America are parts of that continent. I just realized that that's different in the US and Canada, where North America (from Panama to Canada based on your dictionary) is considered a continent by itself.

      Anyways, my point was that calling Canadian, or Mexican or whatever non-american is NOT right the same way you can't call the germans non-europeans. You obviously didn't like my argument. Too bad. You missed a chance to learn about other cultures.

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    9. Re:Um... by apg · · Score: 2

      Yup. As ceejayoz pointed out, the agents' names are all letters, but they're also letters that can be spelled out as common names: Dee, Jay, Kay, Elle, Zed. Oddly, they seem to have broken that for Patrick Warburton's character, Agent T. Like they couldn't have called him B (Bea)... Would've made plenty of room for Wil to toss in some "Aunt Bea" lines.

      Also interesting for the uber-geeks, the letters correspond to the first letter of the agents' original civilian names, at least the ones we know of: James -> J, Kevin -> K, Lauren -> L.

  8. The boss's name by Phreakiture · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Boss's name is ZED , not Sid. That's zed as in the last letter of the alphabet in all English-speaking nations except the U.S., where, for some unkonwn reason, we call it zee

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    1. Re:The boss's name by enterix · · Score: 1

      I like 'Zed' more than 'Zee'... but can you imagine "ZZTop" pronounced as "Zed-Zed-Top"? ;)

    2. Re:The boss's name by ShavenYak · · Score: 1

      What about 18 years ago, when you used to hear it pronounced Zed Zed Top quite often on MTV?
      At the time, MTV had a decided "British" flavour, mostly due to the fact that few American bands made videos when the channel debuted, and much of the material came from across the pond.

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    3. Re:The boss's name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      except the U.S., where, for some unkonwn reason, we call it zee

      Obviously this is because zed does not rhyme with A-B-C's, and it seriously messes up the alphabet song. Go ahead. Try it. It just doesn't work.

    4. Re:The boss's name by Frank+Grimes · · Score: 4, Funny
      That's zed as in the last letter of the alphabet in all English-speaking nations except the U.S.
      Wait, slow down. Are you saying that there are other nations, outside of the United States? I really don't buy that. And even if there were, how could thier language and culture be any different from ours?
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    5. Re:The boss's name by Monkeyman334 · · Score: 2, Funny

      where, for some unkonwn reason, we call it zee

      I pronounce it zee because my preschool teacher told me to, I wasn't about to tell her she was wrong. Teachers were authority figures back then ya know.

    6. Re:The boss's name by jbayes · · Score: 2, Funny

      U SPELLIN': BAD

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    7. Re:The boss's name by Kraft · · Score: 5, Funny

      You need to study some geography.

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    8. Re:The boss's name by bitrate · · Score: 1
      As a citizen of a nation that pronounces it "Zed", I am constantly at loggerheads with others of my country who pronounce it "Zee". (probably due to a close proximity to the USA)

      I agree that there are times when "Zed" flows better than "Zee", such as "Zed"-24 (Cavalier) rather than "Zee"-24....or YZFR-1 (motorcycle) instead of Y"Zee"FR-1...but that's MHO and I could be wrong.

      I guess there really are more important things to discuss, aren't there?
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    9. Re:The boss's name by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, they no longer teach that in American high schools. Apparently learning about other places is "Un-American," and thus those who know about other places are terrorists. We wouldn't want our high schools to be a breeding ground for terrorists, would we? :)

    10. Re:The boss's name by screwballicus · · Score: 2

      Well, yes, actually. I fall into that trap constantly. I thought it was "Dragonball Zed" for about a year, until I started watching it. But, then, I'm not American.

    11. Re:The boss's name by gfreeman · · Score: 1

      And is it Blink One-Eight-Two, or Blink One-Eighty-Two.

      I'm British, my wife is Canadian, and I prefer to say names the way the "owner" says them. It is, after all, their name.

      But a letter is a letter :) Zed.

      "Zee's dead baby ..."

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  9. Lets review the kiddie toons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "why hasn't there been a slashdot review of Lilo and Stitch?"

    It's in the queue behind "Pokemon II", "The Care Bears Movie", and "The Land Before Time IV"

    1. Re:Lets review the kiddie toons by RevDobbs · · Score: 2

      Like the better Disney movies, there is plenty in "Lilo & Stitch" for the parents of the kiddies. I saw MIB II yesterday, and while there were some funny parts, the movie on a whole was disappointing (boring, predictable). I wish I saw Lilo & Stitch instead...

    2. Re:Lets review the kiddie toons by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      I'm all for reviewing the "kiddie" movies. I went and saw MIB 2 and the Powerpuff Girls movie on the same night, and PPG blew the MIB movie out of the water. Furthermore, a majority of the audience for PPG was in their twenties or older. "Cartoon" ne "kids only".

    3. Re:Lets review the kiddie toons by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      I've only seen the PPG tv show, and I do notice that they toss in some references for adults. For example, when Mojo Jojo says "Three is right out" or when a magician pulls a moose out of the hat, "Are you talking to me?"...

      Hell, they even snuck stuff into The Big Guy and Rusty: "Looks like number two hit the fan". There's an art to sneaking things into kids shows -- none of that crude Disney pornography! :^)

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  10. Hmm, where's Linda? by LightJockey · · Score: 1

    Wasn't Linda Fiorentino supposedly understood as being Jay's "new partner" at the end of the last movie? I wonder how many times she got zapped after that :)

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    1. Re:Hmm, where's Linda? by iElucidate · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There is a throwaway reference to "your old partner who liked it better at the morgue." It all went downhill from there, and that was in the first five minutes. Kinda the way they keep dumping Austin Powers' girls.

    2. Re:Hmm, where's Linda? by Spencerian · · Score: 3, Informative

      Linda Florentino apparently is a difficult actress to work with. I have this on general hearsay from the 'net, so take that as you will. Either she has a prima donna attitude, or does not like to work in sequels. (Note her lack of appearance in any Kevin Smith movies after "Dogma", or MIB2.)

      A third option escapes me, but--who knows--she may simply want to spend more time with her family.

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    3. Re:Hmm, where's Linda? by Skyshadow · · Score: 2
      Hey, I thought the handling of dumping the Austin Powers girl at the start of #2 was actually quite amusing.

      "We knew all along, sadly..."

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    4. Re:Hmm, where's Linda? by Enry · · Score: 2

      Uhm...there's only one movie after Dogma.

    5. Re:Hmm, where's Linda? by punchdrunk · · Score: 1
      Note her lack of appearance in any Kevin Smith movies after "Dogma"

      So what? She wasn't in any Kevin Smith movies before Dogma either. Why should she be in the one Kevin Smith movie that has come out since Dogma?

    6. Re:Hmm, where's Linda? by spencerogden · · Score: 1

      Also I just assumed that this was part of mimicing James Bond, where there was always a girl, just a different one each time...

    7. Re:Hmm, where's Linda? by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      Note her lack of appearance in any Kevin Smith movies after "Dogma"

      Yeah, Smith must hate George Carlin too...

      I don't get this post, I know K. Smith likes reusing actors, but I don't think he ever made this a necessity.

    8. Re:Hmm, where's Linda? by D.+Mann · · Score: 1

      George Carlin was in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. He was the hitchhiker who taught Jay "the unwritten rules of the road."

  11. The Trailer for MIB by gnugnugnu · · Score: 1

    http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/men_in_blac k_2/

    The Trailer for MIB, have not watched it yet (ill wait until i next boot windows) probably contains more spoilers than this review.
    Interesting review by Katz, but this is a movie I was probably going to go and see anyway.

    This post is just an excuse to say that CmdrTaco should post a comment like everyone else and let the moderators decide.

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  13. Katz missed something.. by coug_ · · Score: 1

    Her prescence forces the MIB agency (headed by Sid, played by Rip Torn) to go and de-neuralize Kay, who comes back to re-join his buddy and save the world.

    Rip Torn's character (like all MIB agents) is named after a letter in the alphabet - "Zed", not "Sid" (that's how the English refer to the letter "Z")

  14. This is odd... by Wrexen · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who are you, and what did you do with the real JonKatz?

  15. Theme song by Paraplegic+Vigilante · · Score: 4, Funny
    Does anyone else think that Will Smith MIB 2 theme song is really, really bad? Nod ya head? Anyone with me?

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    1. Re:Theme song by ceejayoz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I found it rather catchy... stuck in my head all the way home, hehe...

    2. Re:Theme song by thenightfly42 · · Score: 1

      The repeated "Nod Your Head" lyric in the refrain (sung in kind of a high background voice) kept reminding me of Weird Al's "All About the Pentiums". Perhaps it also sounds like "All About the Benjamins", but I don't know that one.

    3. Re:Theme song by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      Personally, I thought I heard some Mohammed Ali / boxing influence when I really started listening to the beat...
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    4. Re:Theme song by xercist · · Score: 2

      Just like the original MIB movie, it has a GREAT theme song. No, I'm not talking about that stupidass "rap" will smith does. I'm talking about the underlying theme song played by an orchestra. The second movie had most of it and came in at different points in the film, but I believe it was used in its entirety as the opening theme for the first movie - where we follow the bug flying around as the credits are shown.

      I don't know if it's just me but I love classical music composed for movie themes (also see Gladiator soundtrack).

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    5. Re:Theme song by JuliaNZ · · Score: 1

      Yep, agreed - I used to run a classical radio show on student radio in New Zealand and would play way, way too much of the Batman Returns soundtrack, just because it was good stuff.

      Hmm, here in Oz they're touting a new cable channel which just plays soundtracks - anyone know is it any good?

  16. Not so great... by chuckcolby · · Score: 1

    It was alright, but only at matinee prices. A few entertaining lines, pretty decent effects a la the first one, however it's weak by comparison to the first installment. The story was a bit too rushed, I think. The opening 'toon was nicely done, though.

    My .02.

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  17. Fark Plug by Photar · · Score: 1

    Photoshop TLJ and Will Smith in MIIB
    http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl? IDLink =228134

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  18. Hmm by quantaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    working for a super-secret government agency

    I got the idea in the first one that they didn't work for the government and were autonomous because it asked too many questions. Either way, anyone else find it funny how CmdrTaco simple 3 line review completely contrasts and pretty much cuts down JonKatz's review? Of course the question is which one will /.ers puts more credence in? :)

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    1. Re:Hmm by great+throwdini · · Score: 3, Funny

      Of course the question is which one will /.ers puts more credence in?

      Az with eevry othr /. storie, hoovre speeled theres' th beste.

    2. Re:Hmm by Wrexen · · Score: 1

      I got the idea in the first one that they didn't work for the government and were autonomous because it asked too many questions

      I hate plot-holing sci-fi movies, but where would they get their money?

    3. Re:Hmm by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      ... and liposuction. I normally wouldn't have brought that up, but that line in Fight Club about 'selling the women their fat asses back' made me smile. Heh.

    4. Re:Hmm by Lord+Squirrel · · Score: 1

      I hate plot-holing sci-fi movies, but where would they get their money?

      Didn't they sell/license lots of nifty alien technology? Or have I hit the bong one to many time....:)

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    5. Re:Hmm by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      ...CmdrTaco simple 3 line review completely contrasts and pretty much cuts down JonKatz's review...

      Hey, for Katz that was pretty close to a 3 line review.....

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    6. Re:Hmm by JonWan · · Score: 2

      WorldComm?

  19. Blech by pbrice68 · · Score: 1

    Don't waste your time on this pathetic & unimaginitive piece of trash someone called a movie.

    I think I laughed all of once. The humour is mundane and boring, the acting and plot wooden, and the "surprise" ending isn't even good enough for a *bad* Twilight Zone.

    PS: Minority Report is HIGHLY overrated, as well. Yet another example of Steven Spielberg's saturday-morning-cartoon version of cinema.

    1. Re:Blech by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Funny, the entire theater I saw it in cracked up quite a bit. It was definitely a cute movie.

      As for being 'as good as the first', it kind of reminded me of Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters 2. People didn't like GB2, though it did develop quite a following later on. Will MiiB do that? Hmm prolly not. But it was a fun movie either way.

      It kicked Episode II's butt.

  20. Re:MIB and 9/11 by SpelledBackwards · · Score: 1

    Jeebs (the black market weapons-selling guy) has a beard and medallion and looks much more middle eastern than in MIB 1, and there are fireworks that kinda become symbolic for god bless america, a tired phrase these days.

  21. Oh those sequels by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hollyweird has gotten so bad these days, that you can *practically* guarantee that anything with a number behind it will suck big time.

    Nonetheless I was surprised when a sequel to MIB was announced (I didn't feel it needed one, but you know how Hollywood is..if the 1st made even a smidgen of money, sequel it!) and even more so that it didn't pick up where the last one left off (with Linda F. has Will's new partner).

    So, I go see the film with reservations, and I was pleasantly surprised.

    Sure, the film takes itself even less seriously than the last one, but it does expand more on the aliens and esp. the worm guys. It's funny, without degenerating into slapstick or schlock.

    I think what helped that was having the same director for both.

    In any case it's *certainly* better than other current sci-fi offerings currently playing at the theatres.

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    1. Re:Oh those sequels by bsane · · Score: 1

      Did we see the same movie?

      It's funny, without degenerating into slapstick or schlock.

      I only wish this were true. Really the only funny parts were in the trailer. The rest of the movie was pathetic. About half way through I was hoping the movie would end soon...

      I really like the first one. It just seems like the whole movie was pieced together from ideas or scenes that got cut from the first one...

    2. Re:Oh those sequels by jglow · · Score: 1

      so you're saying you DIDN'T like those Jurrasic Park sequals?!?! :)

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    3. Re:Oh those sequels by gosand · · Score: 2
      In any case it's *certainly* better than other current sci-fi offerings currently playing at the theatres.

      1. I don't think I would even call this sci-fi

      2. Minority Report

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    4. Re:Oh those sequels by Brandeissansoo · · Score: 1

      Actually, the woman from MiB is said to have "wanted" to go back to the morgue, during the scene just before the pug is assigned to be his new partner. I hope this helps you get some closure.

    5. Re:Oh those sequels by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2
      Nonetheless I was surprised when a sequel to MIB was announced (I didn't feel it needed one, but you know how Hollywood is..if the 1st made even a smidgen of money, sequel it!)

      Yeah....I was supprised to. I was expecting a prequel.

  22. It's worthwhile. by Skyshadow · · Score: 2
    If you have an extra $20 for tickets and popcorn, it you have a couple of hours to kill on a Saturday and you want to get out of the daytime heat, this movie is worth a matinee viewing.

    It's dumb, it's action and silly comedy. I'm prepared to deal with that. Hell, I'm even looking forward to that. Nothing beats seeing summer popcorn movies at the theatre on a Saturday afternoon.

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  23. Missing the point of MIB by rufusdufus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The reviewer should pay a little more attention when he decides to write a review. The fact that he missed the part about the leader being Zed, not "Sid" is a big indicator of how much he missed.

    MIB movies are not really about the plot. They are about mind expansion. About reading between the lines. And about perspective. That our perception is marred by the flaws of our memory, and our wishful thinking, and our emotional pain.
    That your world view is just one of many, and pointedly, that thats OK.

    1. Re:Missing the point of MIB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      MIB movies are not really about the plot. They are about mind expansion.

      So are you suggesting that one must be under the influence of LSD to enjoy MIB movies?

    2. Re:Missing the point of MIB by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 1
      when have you seen a sequel that lived up to the first movie?

      You missed out '(apart from Godfather II)' on the end of your rhetorical question.

    3. Re:Missing the point of MIB by PaxTech · · Score: 1
      > > when have you seen a sequel that lived up to the first movie?

      > You missed out '(apart from Godfather II)' on the end of your rhetorical question.

      You left out the "and The Empire Strikes Back" from your pedantic correction of the previous poster's rhetorical question. ;)

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  24. Names? by rjw57 · · Score: 1
    Her prescence forces the MIB agency (headed by Sid, played by Rip Torn) to go and de-neuralize Kay, who comes back to re-join his buddy and save the world.

    I thought the MiB boss was called `Zed'.. as in the letter -- notice the pattern with Jay, Kay, etc...

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  25. Sequels S*** by rirugrat · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Point A: MIIB is a sequel (note the "clever" way they incorporate the number "two" in the title).

    Point B: With the possible exceptions of The Godfather Part II, Aliens, Superman II and Raquel Darrian's boob job...*all* sequels s***.

    Point A + Point B = MIIB S***s!

    Chris

    1. Re:Sequels S*** by rirugrat · · Score: 1

      "Terminator 2"...how could I have forgotten THAT one?!?! Me bad.

      I still say that "Empire Strikes Back" s***ed. I remember when that movie came out and it was generally viewed (unfairly) as a disappointment (Why? Because it wasn't STAR WARS!!!). Every Star Wars film that followed has been generally viewed (fairly) as a disappointment.

      Chris

    2. Re:Sequels S*** by SquadBoy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wrath of Kahn. Toy Story 2. Empire which was better than SW:ANH. I liked Aliens better than Alien but that one is not as widely accepted. Also many of the Star Trek movies are better than the first one.

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    3. Re:Sequels S*** by pinkpineapple · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Terminator 2 didn't reallty suck neither... Original plot, killer effects, even better acting, plenty of lines to remember (Hasta la vista baby, I'll be back). That was a dream sequel compare to others.

      PPA, the girl next door.

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    4. Re:Sequels S*** by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 1

      Is there a reason that you are self-censoring 'suck'? I naturally read 's***' as 'shit', which lead to problems parsing your posts.

      Terminator 2 was bigger, and louder, but was certainly *not* better than the original.

    5. Re:Sequels S*** by valmont · · Score: 2


      terminator 2 was a far superior movie to terminator 1. hands-down.

    6. Re:Sequels S*** by sconeu · · Score: 1

      When did Racquel D. get the boob job?

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    7. Re:Sequels S*** by xercist · · Score: 2

      Speaking of which, as a preview to MIB 2 (no, not MIIB goddammit) was Terminator 3! Anyone else see this? I'm not sure when it's due out, but the preview really grabbed my attention, because 1) I love T2 and 2) I love the theme to it. Boom-boom-boom, ba-boom! ;)

      Apparently the story is set after T2's time, but following the timeline as if the machines -had- come to power.

      Interesting how the entire story of Terminator is based on a time-travel paradox (terminiator is built on technology which was obtained by studying a chip that came back in time - the chip from such a machine that was made possible by studying the chip itself)

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    8. Re:Sequels S*** by autechre · · Score: 2


      The Godfather part II is the only sequel to ever win a...whichever award it is they give out to movies. Can you tell I haven't been into mainstream movies for a while? :)

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    9. Re:Sequels S*** by zorro2676 · · Score: 1

      According to IMDB, July 2003.

    10. Re:Sequels S*** by alue · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Terminator 2! It was amazing compared to the first. =)

    11. Re:Sequels S*** by pinkpineapple · · Score: 2

      You can see the trailer for T3 on the web these days (sorry Quicktime required.) The IMDB (www.imdb.com) entry for T3 lists the links to the trailer It doesn't show much but the look and feel are the same patented ones that were developed in T2. Arnie will probably look a bit tired in that one. One rumor has it that they had to digitally remove the walker he is using in some scenes ;-)

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  26. Re:Spielberg cartoon? by Paraplegic+Vigilante · · Score: 1
    Was he involved in a prime time failure about a cartoon dog?

    Yeah, Poochie was his name. He didn't do well in the ratings, and had to return to his home planet.

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  27. Original ending? by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Spoiler.

    According to IMDB:

    The original ending of the film included a scene in which the World Trade Center towers opened up, releasing a swarm of UFOs into the air. Following the towers' destruction the ending was re-shot and now takes place at the Chrysler Building.

    No it doesn't. Anyone know what the story is with this? Did the script or storyboard for this scene ever leak?

  28. Thanks for the review, but... by MrPoopyPants · · Score: 1

    You left out the most important part: the previews!

    I heard rumors of Star Trek and Lord of the Rings previews. Were these rumors true? Anybody else who has seen it please let me know.

    Thanks.

    1. Re:Thanks for the review, but... by gblues · · Score: 2
      Trailers I saw were:
      1. Signs (Mel Gibson + crop circles)
      2. Triple-X (James Bond meets Tony Hawk)
      3. Terminator 3 teaser (no footage)
      4. Blue Crush (hot chicks trying to surf)
      5. Uh.. the slasher movie series with Jamie Lee Curtis in it.
      I think that was about it. No Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, or the like. But, the animated short was freaking hilarious.

      Nathan

    2. Re:Thanks for the review, but... by floodle · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I saw both the Star Trek and LOTR previews, among others. They both looked pretty good, especially the Two Towers.

    3. Re:Thanks for the review, but... by niftyeric · · Score: 1

      Check nemesis.startrek.com for the trailer. I'm so pumped about this movie (especially since it's a even numbered one). From what I've read, it could very well be the last one too. Although I wouldn't mind a DS9 movie (my favorite Star Trek series). Something involving the Dominion would be good (maybe bring the Dominion Wars books to the big screen). Hrm..

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  29. *SPOILER* by Theologian · · Score: 1
    Spoilage warning: plot discussed, not ending, not that it matters here.

    ...that's because the movie exposes the truth that we all are actually under alien control.
    The truth is, we are alien slaves and this movie was an attempt of the Human Brotherhood of STAGING OUR REBELLION!!!
    WE MUST FIGHT BAc:#$S@]3]|3@?~
    ^^^&%
    [NO CARRIER]

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  30. Props to Katz! by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 1, Troll

    Glad to see he made it all the way thru that without a single 9/11 reference, but I think I still need to go with Taco on this one, it was pretty weak compared to the original.

  31. Don't bother by iONiUM · · Score: 1

    I saw this the day it came out. The plot was very thin, the whole movie felt like it was just made because they NEW they'd make money, since the first one did so well. It was very bad... the special effects weren't even up to par, and that's all the movie had going for it..
    Anyways, that's my opinion of it, I definatly don't recommend this movie to anybody..

  32. Short? by cybercuzco · · Score: 2

    Did anyone else thing this movie was really short?I went to see it at 5 and I was out of the theater by 6:35, and thats after 20 minutes of trailers and watching the credits. It took 5 years to make that?

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    1. Re:Short? by bsane · · Score: 1

      No. I thought it was too long. About 40 minutes in I was looking at my watch hoping this would all come to an end soon.

    2. Re:Short? by NeMon'ess · · Score: 2

      Its all fucking Sony's fault. MIB II was on track when Blair Fuckwad Project came out and make too much fucking money. Sony halted MIB II AND Ghostbusters III because they thought Blair Fuckwad Project II would cost nothing and make more profits than either big-name sequels. Then Blair Fuckwad Project II came and bombed. Sony realised they FUCKED UP and went ahead with MIB II. Now if they'll only get back to Ghostbusters III and not fuck it up like MIB II is. Not that I hate MIB II, but I only rated it 6/10 on IMDB.

    3. Re:Short? by adamjone · · Score: 2

      I went to see the film this afternoon with my wife. We were joking about how long the previews, commercials, and intros were taking and decided to time it. The listed showing time was 1:00pm. The previews ran to 1:15. The animated short ran until 1:25. We exited the theater at 2:35. On a pure dollars per hour of entertainment scale, this was a really expensive outting, even considering it was a matinee.

  33. MIB 2 by hendridm · · Score: 1

    Regardless of what the Slashdot crowd says, it couldn't have been worse than "Orange County" or "The New Guy".

    /me cries as he remembers the monetary loss.

    1. Re:MIB 2 by bsane · · Score: 1

      I will say that it definitely wasn't worse than Space Cowboys. That movie holds my all time worst (as in painfull to watch) movie.

    2. Re:MIB 2 by Genom · · Score: 2

      In one word: Manos

      More properly: Manos: The Hands of Fate

      Worst movie ever made...and yes, I've seen the non-MST3K version. Well...most of it...I think...what I didn't sleep through, anyway. ;P

  34. Had to read that twice: by MSG · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    CmdrTaco: Watch Lilo & Stich instead ;)

    I had to look that up in my universal tranlator, because it sounded a bit odd. Apparently it translates to english as:

    I am Disney's little bitch. Fund the war on freedom.

    Paying the people who oppress you is dumb with a capital "DUMB", Taco.

  35. Take That BACK!!! by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

    Minority report kicked ass. Even if they could've chosen a better name.

    I sorta missunderstood the doctor scene. If what's his name put the doc away, then why did the doc operate. Did I mention that I can't remember names very well?

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    1. Re:Take That BACK!!! by Buttercup · · Score: 1

      No, Minority Report didn't kick ass. Sorry to have to disabuse you.

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  36. Yep! by NorthDude · · Score: 1

    Don't whant to go off-topic, but I agree with you on that one. Not the best movie I saw in my life, but it was good. And now, I want the same "mouse" as tom for my computer!

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  37. Sid???? by jacoby · · Score: 1

    MIB
    MIB II
    Take a look. Tommy Lee Jones is K, or "Kay". Will Smith is J, or "Jay". Linda Fiorentino was L, or "Elle". They're choosing letters which are pronounced like names, so it is "Zed" for Z!!!!

  38. Preshow cartoon by totallygeek · · Score: 2
    I enjoyed Men in Black II, thinking that I hadn't wasted my money. I expected more from it though than I got. However, I really enjoyed the cartoon featurette before the movie with the universal joint, the Ale-E-Inn. Extremely creative with the incorporation of characters from sci-fi films.

    I also enjoyed the Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers trailer as well. However, I thought it would have been cooler to leave Gandalf out so those that don't know the story would still think he was dead. Can you imagine the sound of suprize in the theater when he popped up again?

  39. Re:Zed, Z by Apostata · · Score: 1

    In the US it rhymes with "pee".

    Every other English speaking country pronounces it as "zed"

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  40. Re:Blech - Warining - MR Spoiler- by bowronch · · Score: 1

    I would have rather seen an ending in the movie like in the book...

    In the book, Anderton does do what the Precogs said he would... Had more of a Greek Tragedy, the Oracle said it would happen, everyone does everything they can to avoid it, and it happens because of everything they did to avoid it...

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  41. Egad! by KlippoKlondike · · Score: 1

    What about the CGI? The monsters in the tv commericals looked terrible. I mean, why is this movie's budget so high if almost no effort was put into the special effects? Besides the bloated salaries of Sonnenfeld, Smith, Tommy Lee Jones, and Danny Elfman there should be 30 or 40 million dollars floating around somewhere.

    It's a fleecing of america I tell you, and I'm not going to stand for it!

    ok, you got me, i'm just gonna download porn...sorry

  42. Agent names by totallygeek · · Score: 2
    Uh, the names are not Kay and Jay and Sid. They are Zed, K and J. The agents are named after letters, with Zed being the European way to say Z.

    1. Re:Agent names by NeMon'ess · · Score: 2

      If you looked on IMDB.com you'd know Kay and Jay are their names as much as K and J

    2. Re:Agent names by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      Uh, the names are not Kay and Jay and Sid. They are Zed, K and J.

      Actually, the print media says Kay and Jay. You're right about Zed though. One step forward, two steps back.

      The agents are named after letters, with Zed being the European way to say Z.

      Oh, I thought it was the Canadian way...

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  43. delayed lucidity by jafac · · Score: 3, Troll

    I've noticed an odd effect, roughly for the past two or three years, prior to watching a movie, I've been a little exited by the hype, then while watching the movie, I'm usually really digging it. Then, anywhere from a couple of hours to maybe a day later, I'm thinking about it and going, "man, that movie actually kinda sucked".

    I mean, Episode I, despite Jar Jar, I was really exited and into it, because my 6 year old son was. But later, thinking about it, I couldn't find any really redeeming qualities to it except maybe a little satisfaction at knowing some of the earlier history of Star Wars.
    Same with Episode II. Damn, nearly every movie I've seen in the theaters for the past 2-3 years, except maybe Being John Malkovich.

    That said; having seen MIIB yesterday - it sucked. It sucked really bad. I want my money back. I want my two hours back. Seems the only way Will Smith can get people to listen to his RAP anymore is to get in a movie and virally infect the soundtrack with it. The ONLY worthwhile bit was when he says his car originally had a black driver, but he kept getting pulled over. And I saw that in the trailer.

    And I'm not going to see Minority Report, because I'm boycotting the Church of Scientology.

    Depressingly, the next movie I'm looking forward to is LOTR II. At least I got to see the trailer. But even more, I'm looking forward to LOTR I's DVD with the extra hour of footage.
    Fuck this. Movies suck, work sucks, I'm the only person in the office - screw it I'm going to the beach.

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    1. Re:delayed lucidity by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 1
      You're making the wrong choices in the movies that you see.

      They're not out in cinemas any more, but go and rent 'L.A. Confidential', or 'Memento', or 'Being John Malkovich' (yes, you've already seen it. Go and see it again). All recent quality movies, that demand some small part of intelligence on the part of the watcher. None are adapted from a comic book, and feature neither space aliens nor wizards.

      Or widen your range a bit. Work your way down the IMDB top 250. Don't be afraid to watch movies that are more than 20 years old, or in a foreign language.

      Stretch yourself a little.

    2. Re:delayed lucidity by sean23007 · · Score: 2

      Maybe I'm a little behind, but what does Scientology have to do with Minority Report? Please enlighten me.

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    3. Re:delayed lucidity by Deluge · · Score: 2

      I've noticed an odd effect, roughly for the past two or three years, prior to watching a movie, I've been a little exited by the hype, then while watching the movie, I'm usually really digging it. Then, anywhere from a couple of hours to maybe a day later, I'm thinking about it and going, "man, that movie actually kinda sucked".

      Funny, I had the exact opposite reaction to The Matrix. I walked out of the theatre feeling somewhat 'blah', but after having some time to digest it, and seeing it a bunch of times on TV, I did a 180 and loved the movie. Maybe it was the fact that at first I was turned off by the silliness of the idea that we're used as batteries ('CPU' power would've been so much better), but once I got past that, the movie really rocked.

    4. Re:delayed lucidity by pheede · · Score: 1

      Tom Cruise is a member of the Church of Scientology. Simple as that..

      -- /pah

    5. Re:delayed lucidity by seann · · Score: 1

      Interested in this too. Maybe Tom Cruise is a member like John Travolta?

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    6. Re:delayed lucidity by sean23007 · · Score: 2

      So...? What does that have to do with going to see the movie?

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    7. Re:delayed lucidity by bm_luethke · · Score: 1

      Depressingly, the next movie I'm looking forward to is LOTR II

      ok, to be picky, it's not LOTR II. Lord of the Rings is 6 books (acts if it were a play). Since this was so large Tolkein published them in three bound volumes. The three volumes are named "Fellowship of the Ring", "The Two Towers", and "Return of the King". In no way is it volume one, two, and three, it's one long story (in fact the bound volume I have is all one big book, no special divisions based on previous published volumes). So be happy, your not looking forward to a sequel, you getting to view the part of the movie after the first intermission :)

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    8. Re:delayed lucidity by RoninM · · Score: 2
      Uh, well, if he sees it, it makes the movie studio more money. If a movie makes good money, the movie studios are more willing to fund other projects of that actor, leading to the actor getting more pay checks.

      Before anyone starts hopping up and down, yelling that this guy's boycott won't do anything: I strongly doubt he's under the impression that he, alone, will have any impact. It's more likely a decision made on principle than on the potential of actually forcing studios to stop, in effect, sending their checks to the Scientologists.

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    9. Re:delayed lucidity by sean23007 · · Score: 2

      Fine, try not to support the actor, but why is the movie suddenly less important than the cast? Actually, I suppose it isn't so sudden, but that's a terrible trend that's been going on for a few decades. Minority Report is one of the few movies to come out in the past few years that is actually intriguing and thought-provoking, with very good writing and a director no less than the venerable Spielberg. Refute me if you must, but I have always believed, and will continue to believe, that the movie is more important than the actor. The director is more important than the actor. The script is more important than the actor. In some cases the sets are more important than the actor. As long as the actor can do something along the lines of acting, it doesn't matter who he is.

      On another note, Cruise doesn't play a Scientologist in the movie, so getting hot and bothered about his beliefs in reality while watching him play a completely different character in a movie is just a little unbalanced. As an actor, he puts himself into the mind of someone else while he is on stage, and as a good actor, he does it well.

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    10. Re:delayed lucidity by gvonk · · Score: 2

      after having some time to digest it, and seeing it a bunch of times on TV, I did a 180 and loved the movie.

      Yeah? Did you do that 180 in the air, in slo-mo?

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  44. Re:European Z by totallygeek · · Score: 2
    All I am saying is that the agents are all letters. Maybe it would sound crummy for him to be Z as "Zee". I imagine that after a while, they would need other letters like Alpha, Kappa, Theta and Rho.

  45. Big friggin plot holes by Papa+Legba · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was hurt by how cheezy the plot holes in the movie where.

    We have an orginization that is in control of the worlds aliens and does all check ins yet has no backup plan for a rogue alien in the terminal?
    After agent K get's deneralized, and I mean as he gets out of the chair, he is talking about how he can't remember what they are looking for becuase he neralized himself to make him forget where he put it or what it was. Um what about the deneralizer you just used to get your memory back?

    I am not one to bitch about a movie using suspension of disbelief to get a point across. As I have told people before I am paying $8 to see fantasy, if I wanted to see real life I would go stand on the street corner for two hours. Their is a limit of course and I feel that this movie did not do enough to try and cover for that. Something as simple as having his memory coming back over years durring the course of the movie would have worked. With him hitting the relevant information at the right moment. Could have had some great jokes embedded in it, like having him bitch that agent X neuralized him after cheating at poker for example. The lack of thinking in the writing gives the movie the feel that it is a quick cash in for a buck and that is it.

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    1. Re:Big friggin plot holes by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      the writing gives the movie the feel that it is a quick cash in for a buck and that is it.

      Well DUH!

      What did you expect? A road to spritual enlightenment? The secret to world peace?

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    2. Re:Big friggin plot holes by thenightfly42 · · Score: 1

      I thought that the deneuralization was probably layered; when he did the de-N in the basement, it only removed J's neuralization.

      How about the plot hole with the video rental store? 20 years ago they were storing their data in a database, and all that information is still there?

    3. Re:Big friggin plot holes by MikeSweetser · · Score: 1
      After agent K get's deneralized, and I mean as he gets out of the chair, he is talking about how he can't remember what they are looking for becuase he neralized himself to make him forget where he put it or what it was. Um what about the deneralizer you just used to get your memory back?

      Two possibilities...

      1) I seem to remember that the deneuralization was only set to go back five years (although I might be crossing this up with the previous neuralization of the agent at the start of the movie). If this is true, then J's neuralization would be removed, but the one K did to himself many years ago would still be in effect.
      2) Like mentioned in other comments, neuralizations are layered. Removing one doesn't remove the rest (this actually makes sense; otherwise, if somebody that's been neuralized repeatedly got deneuralized, it could seriously fuck with their memories).

      Mike

  46. Where's the love? by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 2

    What no review for the Powerpuff Girls? I loved it. There were some great Planet Of The Apes refs. (* Plus going by the quality of the other 10 or so "movies" I have seen this summer -- it's kinda hard to be any worse.)

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  47. The cartoon? by ilyag · · Score: 1

    Was I the only one to see a pretty funny cartoon before the movie (a kind of parody on Star Wars)? Does anyone know why did id get in before the movie? Or is it only shown in United Artist cinemas?

    1. Re:The cartoon? by hawaiian717 · · Score: 1

      Was also shown at Consolidated Theaters in Mililani, Oahu, Hawaii. So it's not just at UA cinemas. Unfortunately, they didn't show the LOTR or Nemesis trailers. :(

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  48. Reviewer == Teh Idiot by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 1

    The MIB aren't part of ANY government agency, they own the patents on a few little gadgets they have confiscated over the years...

    How much did you even pay attention to the first one, reviewer? Doesn't sound like that much, and I'll wager your review of the sequel is probably as well thought out and concise as your knowledge of the first movie.

    Blow me, critics.

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    1. Re:Reviewer == Teh Idiot by vrmlknight · · Score: 1

      That is just how they get their funding. The M.i.B. (men in black) started off as an under-funded government agency that started off in the mid 1950's, made to make contact with aliens. Everyone thought it was a joke until aliens made first contact March 2nd 1969 just outside of New York. There were 9 humans there that night, 7 agents, 1 astronomer and one dumb kid who got lost on the long back road. They are now the mega-organisation, Bereau that liscences, monitors and polices alien activity on planet Earth. The major office is in Manhattan, 504 Battery Drive, though there are offices all over the world.

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  49. Re:Dollars backwards? by PIBM · · Score: 1

    Americans are putting dollars sign in front. I know that french canadians are putting it afterward. I don't know about english canadians though ..

    I don't think it's the same in all countries..

  50. The First MIB by ralico · · Score: 1

    My wife and I saw the first MIB in the theater in Springfield, MO.
    One scene that stands out was when Zed said "Thank you gentlemen, you are everything we have come to expect from years of government training." We were the only two in the room to laugh. We got some funny looks too.

    From what I've seen and heard coming out of hollywood recently. I'm going to save my money and wait for LOTR II.

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  51. Katz gets it wrong...again by geekoid · · Score: 2

    They do not work for ANY government agency.
    they fund themselfs through patenting alien technology, then licesing it.

    "I'll have to buy the White album again"

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  52. Sorry to ask, but why review this movie? by gosand · · Score: 2

    Seriously, why does this movie constitute a review on Slashdot? Lord of the Rings, OK. Attack of the Clones, OK. Matrix, OK. Monsters Inc, OK. Those are somewhat "geek oriented" movies in story or technology. MIB wasn't really, and I am guessing that this one isn't either. Is it considered Sci-Fi? Are all Sci-Fi movies going to be reviewed? But I don't really understand why Katz is allowed to post any story.

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    1. Re:Sorry to ask, but why review this movie? by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 2
      Lowell Cunningham is a geek's geek. He used to live across the street from me in Knoxville. He is a real geek. We only pretend to the throne.

      Also, you can filter out Katz's stories.

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    2. Re:Sorry to ask, but why review this movie? by gosand · · Score: 2
      Because he's an actual author who has opinions that people think are worth reading?

      Hi Jon, er, Mr Coward.

      Sorry, not on Slashdot. Seriously, the vast majority of comments to his stories are ripping them apart. Because it is easy to rip apart his stories? YES. They often are of no opinion on anything, state nothing clearly, and are simply globs of catch phrases of the day strung together with poorly researched "facts". Go back and read the articles he has posted, and read the top moderated comments on them. And a lot of people don't comment on his stories because they have them blocked in their preferences. I haven't blocked them because reading his stories are a great way to learn how NOT to write.

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    3. Re:Sorry to ask, but why review this movie? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Is MiB considered Sci-Fi? WTF kinda question is that? "Is TJ-Hooker a cop show?" *eyeroll*

      It's reviewed because most of the Slashdot readers liked the first one and are concerned the second one won't be worth seeing. It costs about $7.50 and 90 minutes to find out. (some of us have GF's to drag along too, make that $15 plus the time it takes for her to change her clothes :P)

      Personally, I'm happy that Slashdot reviews the movies. They saved me from watching Resident Evil.

    4. Re:Sorry to ask, but why review this movie? by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      They often are of no opinion on anything, state nothing clearly....

      I haven't blocked them because reading his stories are a great way to learn how NOT to write.


      You have much more to learn it seems....

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  53. A Costly AD for Benz by runtimeerror7 · · Score: 1

    i watched the movie the very first day and was disappointed with it. as we the ads in minority report were not sufficient, we have 3 roles in MIB2..will smith, tommy and the BENZ. i think they have lost it....

  54. Re:Reviewer == The Idiot by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

    and ends up with a smart-mouthed, sometimes hilarious pug for a partner.

    When I first read this, it gives the impression that the dog was randomly found. It's Frank, the street informant, "intergalactic Huggy Bear" from the first movie.

    From what I hear, this movie is a sequel, nothing more. A repackage of the same jokes from the first film. Reading the review, it seems the reviewer didn't see or doesn't remember much about the first, and it all seems new and fresh.

  55. Re:Dollars backwards? by mark_lybarger · · Score: 1

    i'm american, but i don't see the point of putting the dollar sign in front of the amount. it's clearly read as 10 billion dollars, so it should be written that way (10,000,000,000$). are there other symbols that are placed at the end like that?

  56. Re:European Z by nochops · · Score: 2

    No, they're actually American, and the film takes place in America.

    Just consider it a subtle way of expressing that Europeans are somehow more sophisticated than your average American white-trash.

    What's that cliche? Immitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

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  57. Credibility... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2

    No offense buddy, but I hesitate to place too much credence in a movie assessment by somebody who knows what Raquel Darrian's boobs looked like *before*... (I do now, thanks Google Image Search :-D)

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  58. MIB is a governemt agency by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 2

    The Men in Black work for the Immigration and Naturalization Service. (INS, Division 6, if I recall correctly).

    1. Re:MIB is a governemt agency by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      No, the 'division six' thing is a running joke. They'll pick a gov't agency appropriate to their current 'cover' story, and claim to be from 'Division Six' of that agency.

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  59. The GNUvie Movie Ratings Standard by kitzilla · · Score: 1

    I'm going to take this opportunity to propose a /. "Open Standards" movie ratings system. I've used this myself for quite a while:

    ONE DVD (or less): This movie sucks. Your entertainment time would be better spent watching something on cable or--gasp--doing something outdoors.

    TWO DVDs: Worth renting, but not good enough to justify a full-freight movie ticket.

    THREE DVDs: A good movie--you won't feel ripped off if you drop the cash for a theatre ticket. Buy the DVD if you can find a good price.

    FOUR DVDs: A great movie. See it opening weekend, and buy the DVD as soon as it hits the streets.

    I think we'll call this the GNUvie Movie Ratings Standard. If it really catches on, expect Microsoft to claim they invented it, and that having just anyone handing out DVDs is bad for the movie industry and national security. You'll only be able to rate movies if you have the appropriate DRM key.

    On the GNUvie scale, I'd give MIB2 *TWO* DVDs. It was enjoyable, but I was glad I caught it at a cheap midday show. For me, "Minority Report" was a solid *THREE* DVD flick. I'm pretty stingy with my four-DVD ratings. The last one I saw was probably "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon."

    The GNUvie scale. For the people, by the people. ;-)

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    1. Re:The GNUvie Movie Ratings Standard by Kredal · · Score: 2

      I hope the DVDs in your rating system aren't region locked... otherwise, they're not really good for an "open" standard, are they?

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  60. Not me by recursiv · · Score: 2

    I thoroughly continue to enjoy it. But I'd be glad to take suggestions on what to listen to instead.

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  61. Not bad, IMO by Cleon · · Score: 1

    First of all--if you went expecting stunning dialogue, exceptional acting, or a serious plot, fuggedaboudit. You shouldn't have gone to see the first one, either.

    The whole point of MIB/MIIB is that it's supposed to be *fun*. Not a major, serious, Issues Of Our Time movie, but the kind of flick to sit back and just have fun with. And IMO it worked. Frank (the pug) was a howl--the whole theatre howled when he was singing "I will survive." Will Smith was, of course, Will Smith. (Let's face it, the guy plays a single character in all of his movies.) And the locker creatures were just hilarious ("and the adult entertainment's in the back!").

    Personally, I enjoyed it. And if you didn't, hey, that's your opinion. And you know what opinions are like--everyone's got one, and nobody thinks that theirs stinks.

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  62. MIB was not really that good, so what do you expec by WINSTANLEY · · Score: 1

    I actually think the first MIB could have been
    much stronger. It started out with great premises, background story and characters.

    Instead for whatever reason, bad direction, bad
    writing, studio pressures, suggest your own theory, they took the gobs of strong material
    and squandered it.

    An example is helpful here.
    If you take one of the last sci-fi/fantasy spoofs
    that I can think of that works really well, i.e. Ghostbusters, and make point by point comparisons the weaknesses in MIB become apparent:

    the lead characters;
    the ensemble acting between characters;
    the love interest.

    More importantly, lots of the humor in G'busters
    was contextual, i.e., driven by the logic of the
    plot. While MIB was humorous, the overall feelings
    was that there was much more cheap, throwaway humor
    (which has its place).

    G'buster, in almost
    every respect pay more attention to the craft of
    story-telling, and what's sad about MIB is that
    is started with a great story.

    I guess when it comes right down to it, I suspect
    that the movie makers did not give the original
    material (in terms of the screenplay, I don't know anything about the graphic novel) the
    respect that
    it deserved, and the probably in some ways
    mirrors their attitudes toward the audience
    as well.

    The idea that MIIB continues down the same
    depressing road is not lighting a fire under me
    to see it.

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  63. lol (after 2 seconds) by moogla · · Score: 2

    Please mod up funny. CHRIST

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  64. Not a light source you moron! by DnemoniX · · Score: 1

    The Light of Zartha (sp?) is not a planets light source you moron! Were you sleeping through the ending? The girl was the "Light", they stashed the heir to the Zarthan crown, so to speak, on Earth. She was destined to save her people, not act as a flashlight.

  65. I am soo tired by abolith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    of people pining and moaning about how bad movies are. Get over it. If you go to a movie like this expect very little and hope for the most. Do that and You just might get more than you expected making the movie a better experiance all around. I figured MIB2 was going to suck, but I was happy to see a decent funny movie.

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    1. Re:I am soo tired by happyclam · · Score: 2
      If you go to a movie like this expect very little and hope for the most. I figured MIB2 was going to suck, but I was happy to see a decent funny movie.

      That's fine for people with lots of money to burn and very little to burn it with. Those of us with families and better things to do don't really like to spend $50 (after multiple tickets, popcorn, babysitter, etc.) for a mediocre movie. I certainly wouldn't ever pay to go see something I thought was going to suck.

      You want people to stop whining about how bad movies are? Then the movie industry should do two things: (1) charge less for movies and (2) stop crowing about how every weekend there's a new 9-figure box office record for receipts.

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    2. Re:I am soo tired by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
      • If you go to a movie like this expect very little and hope for the most.

      Yeah, and my new car broke down after five miles, but hell, I got a whole five miles out of it, right?

      Go. Fuck. Yo. Momma.

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  66. Lilo and Stich? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd rather stay at home and watch Lilo and Grub. :)

  67. It's fun watching you all miss the point... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I swear, you people are self destructing yourselves so that you can't enjoy the $7 spent on watching a movie.

    So far, I've read a lot of comments like 'unoriginal' or 'repackaged' or 'sucked' or whatever.

    Blah blah blah.

    You guys are kinda missing the point to watching a movie. The idea isn't to get exposed to some killer plot, the idea is to have fun. That means: Don't take it too seriously. MiiB is not part 2 of an epic trilogy. It's a comedy, it's meant to entertain for about 90 minutes or so. And it does do that. But, if you sit there being all critical about it the whole time, you're ruining it for yourself. Blame the movie if you want, but remember that's your $7.50 you're burning up.

    The first problem I see is that it's being horribly overanalyzed. One guy went on to say "they shouldn't have written out the chick at the end of MiB, bad bad bad.". Err okay. So you didn't like the movie because it didn't extend the first one by 90 minutes.

    Another guy went on to say '...another Wil Smith pop-corn action movie.' Can you say 'oversimplified'? Put it like that, and anything can sound stupid. 'Slashdot is like another Wil Smith pop-corn action movie'. See my point?

    You can't possibly enjoy a movie if you sit there and pretend you can make it better. (you can't. All you can do is 'fix' the problems you see with it.) Instead, just sit down, watch it, have fun. MiiB is meant to be silly. It's not meant to be epic, it's meant to be fun. Smile.

    If it's not your type of movie, don't go see it. Don't bug us about it either. We clear?

    1. Re:It's fun watching you all miss the point... by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
      • Don't take it too seriously. [...] if you sit there being all critical about it the whole time, you're ruining it for yourself. Blame the movie if you want, but remember that's your $7.50 you're burning up.

      So, you're basically saying that nobody should post bad reviews of movies, because they've missed the point?

      Excuse me, but if I want happy-joy-joy reviews, I'll get them from shills like Harry Knowles or one of the crowd of newspaper reviewers climbing over each other to give a rave review that gets their name on the poster.

      But if I want to read honest reviews by viewers, I'll go to forums like this, where I can read a spectrum of viewpoints, and check up on the history of the commentators. Preferably without small minded attempts at censorship from preachy cocksuckers like you. We clear?

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    2. Re:It's fun watching you all miss the point... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      No, that's not even close to what I was saying. What I was saying was that you're a dumb fuck if you go into a movie only to look for problems in it.

      As a matter of fact, the sentence right before the quote you brought up says very clearly that I was talking about watching the movie, not writing a review:

      "You guys are kinda missing the point to watching a movie." -- that's what I said.

      One of the complaints I heard was "...it sucks because wasn't like the first movie!" to which my response is "Duh!". The fun part of the first movie was discovering all the aliens and technology and so on. How could they drag that out into a second movie while making it interesting?

      That's exactly the type of thing I was babbling about. I wasn't badmouthing people being 'honest', I was commenting that they didn't get the point of the movie in the first place. The people that didn't like MiiB also seem to think that it should be a retread of the first one like Back to the Future 2 was to the original.

      " Preferably without small minded attempts at censorship from preachy cocksuckers like you. We clear?"

      Censorship? Cocksucker?? Don't you think you're being a little extreme here? Grow up. As I already said, I wasn't picking on the reviews, nor was I saying they should all be 'happy happy-joy joy'. God, if you couldn't understand what I was saying, I have no idea why you're reading reviews of movies.

  68. The Anons are on my side... by rirugrat · · Score: 1

    Great...all of the Anonymous Cowards support my opinion. Just great...

    At least Kintanon has the guts to make a point and stand by it. I don't necessarily agree with him, but I respect his opinion.

    Chris

    P.S. This thread was once about a Disney movie, right? Also, once you change your .sig file, it changes it for ALL of your old messages.

  69. Anyone else get a CGI short at showing? by Masem · · Score: 3, Informative
    I thought it was odd that when I saw it, there was a brief (10 minute) CGI animated short from ImageWorks called "The Chub-Chubs" (I think, the name didn't stick), that basically just had a bunch of sci-fi refs in it... did anyone else get this? It wasn't bad (not of the Pixar quality in both animation and writing), but it was pretty decent. I found it odd that it wasn't mentioned in any ads that I saw, nor any reviews of MIB2 that I saw as well. (Compared to the Dexter's Lab short in front of PPG, which I did know about...)

    It's interesting to note that Warner Bros. has confirmed they are making a large (more than 6) number of shorts destined for leadins to big screen movies using the standard Looney Toons characters (eg Bugs, Daffy, etc). Along with Pixar's bits and this ImageWorks thing, there appears to be trend towards this in the movie industry. Of course, there's tons more ads and movie previews of late (for PPG today, for example, I had at least 15 min of both), so this might not last long if it takes away too many screenings from theaters.

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    1. Re:Anyone else get a CGI short at showing? by gblues · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is hardly new.

      40 years ago, WB (and other) cartoons were standard lead-ins to feature shows. Previews of coming attractions used to come at the end of the movie (hence why they are called "trailers"). But, with the large increase in credits, the trailers were moved to the front and the shorts were ditched entirely.

      Thank Pixar for bringing back the animated short, and other studios for acknowledging the market and following suit.

      I, for one, loved the "ChubChubbs" short (did anyone else notice that the yellow things resembled the Langoliers?).

      Nathan

    2. Re:Anyone else get a CGI short at showing? by OneFix · · Score: 2

      Yes, we got it too ... And interestingly enough, Warner Borthers is bringing back the Looney Tunes shorts and targeting it towards adults...there are also new movies in production...

  70. Re:see the NYTimes review. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Did anyone read the NYTimes review?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/03/movies/ 03BLAC.ht ml
    The reviews seem awfully identical verging on plagiarism!

  71. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  72. Movie Scores by defeated · · Score: 1

    Yes, Danny Elfman rocks! He also did the score to Nightmare Before Christmas, Edward Scissorhands, Batman, Black Beauty, Sleepy Hollow, Beetlejuice...

    Oh, yeah, and if you like the Gladiator soundtrack, make sure you scoop up some Dead Can Dance CDs.

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    1. Re:Movie Scores by aridhol · · Score: 2
      He also did the score to Nightmare Before Christmas, Edward Scissorhands, Batman, Black Beauty, Sleepy Hollow, Beetlejuice...
      Don't forget the Simpsons.
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  73. "Came out of nowhere"... by Samurai+Cat! · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...maybe for most folks, but not everyone. Some of us remember that there was a MIB comic years before - the same comic the movie is (somewhat) based on. I met the guy behind it (Lowell Cunningham) eons ago, back in Atlanta in a now-extinct bookstore. It was an independent B comic... no Marvel/DC/etc.

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    1. Re:"Came out of nowhere"... by majestyk2000 · · Score: 1

      "now-extinct bookstore..."

      Would that be Oxford Books? I moved away from Atlanta, and came back a year later, and it was gone! How could you Atlanta-eans allow that to happen? That was the coolest bookstore ever...

  74. Why 'Pre-GRUB and Stitch' hasn't been reviewed by yerricde · · Score: 2

    Speaking of which...why hasn't there been a slashdot review of Lilo and Stitch?

    Three reasons.

    For one thing, "Lilo" is taken. Not only is it the name of the old Linux bootloader (before distributions started using GRUB instead), but wasn't "Leeloo" (probably the same underlying name as "Lilo") a character in The Fifth Element, played by Ms. Jovovich?

    For another thing, Lilo and Stitch is released under the Disney label. The Walt Disney Company (parent of Disney, Touchstone, and Miramax) was the biggest corporate sponsor of the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act and one of the biggest proponents of the DMCA's circumvention ban (among movie studios, only Time Warner gave the U.S. Congress more money in 1998).

    Finally, because you haven't submitted your review for consideration by the Slashdot editors.

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  75. coolest part by r0b0t+b0y · · Score: 1, Interesting

    first, i agree with most everyone else about the movie not being as great as the first...

    however, the best part of that night was when the teaser for T3 came on the screen...as soon as the theme music started, the whole theater (being mostly filled with MIT kids) erupted in applause.

    then we saw the "Summer 2003" and we all cried...

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  76. Shortest. Movie. Ever by weave · · Score: 2

    70 damn minutes. Why bother? It was almost as short as the short that played before it. 25 minutes of commercials, trailers, and chubb chubb, then 70 minutes of movie.

  77. NOT THE: First appearance of Mac OS X in a movie by belloc · · Score: 1

    I've read Men in Black II marks the first appearance of Apple's Mac OS X in a big movie.

    Actually, there's a TiBook on Meg Ryan's boss' desk in Kate & Leopold, if I remember correctly. Did the TiBook ever run OS9 (only)? If not, we can make a pretty good argument that OSX was in that flick.

    Belloc

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  78. Umm... well, I liked the movie. by SwedishChef · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I liked the opening, I liked the middle, and I liked the end (mostly). When I went in to this movie I wasn't expecting to see anything deep... just fun. And it was fun as hell. Frank "singing" along with "Who let the dogs out" was a riot. I don't care about plot in these movies, just entertainment. And it delivered full measure on that judging from the reaction of the audience at my showing. For those of you reading these reviews go see it and judge for yourself. At least you'll keep cool in the a/c.

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  79. Many reasons to see Undercover Brother instead. by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Why you should see Undercover Brother instead of Men In Black II:
    • Undercover Brother is a lot funnier than MIIB.
    • Undercover Brother has more great "movie moments" than MIIB (e.g. the car spinning out without UB spilling a drop of his orange soda)
    • Undercover Brother and MIIB both involve secret agencies, but the secret agency of UB is more interesting this time around.
    • There are just as many 'gross out' scenes in Undercover Brother as there are in MIIB, and they're more believable. (Mayonayse...ick!)
    • Like MIIB, Undercover Brother is a parody. Unlike MIIB, Undercover Brother isn't a parody of itself.
    • Since Undercover Brother has been out for a few weeks, a greater percentage of the proceeds go to local movie theatres than go to the studios and the MPAA.
  80. Who'd they steal this one from? by stu42j · · Score: 1

    The thing I've been wondering since I first heard about this movie is, which Japanese Anime did they steal this idea from? :)

    Or is it possible that Disney has finally come out with it's first truly original full length motion picture?

  81. Did anybody else notice this? by ApprenticeGeek · · Score: 1

    Didn't the fact that in one scene Jay was left-handed, and in the next he was right-handed bother anybody?

    1. Re:Did anybody else notice this? by buckeyeguy · · Score: 2
      Probably plenty of goofs like that... in the 'locker' scene, where K retrieves his watch, J replaces it (at the behest of the 'little people', gag) with his own watch... but in cuts back to the little-people shot, the old K watch is still in place. More will eventually show up at Movie Mistakes.

      Saw the flick last night, and felt cheated.... it's virtually a copy of the first movie, the effects brought nothing new to the screen, and at 1 hour 20 minutes, hardly a movie-going value.

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    2. Re:Did anybody else notice this? by bok-choi · · Score: 1

      I also noticed that the movie refers to the "original event" happening in 1978, and then they talk about spending 25 years searching for the Light... But it's 2002 right now, and if you do the math, then "25 years ago" would be in 1977. Or else they're just rounding...

  82. Re:Star Wars cartoons? by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

    Spielberg doesn't do cartoons? maybe not feature-length, but Animaniacs was hilarious, and not just for kids, in it's best days. That's Speilberg. Tiny Toons sucked ass, though. All it did was introduce the charachters, without ever getting around to putting them into a funny story. That, too was Spielburg.

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  83. I know who Sid is by KingPrad · · Score: 1

    He's that evil kid next door who likes blowing up toys. Who could mistake him for the benevolent protector of the Earth Zed?

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  84. 2 hours?? Re: delayed lucidity by Zzyzzx · · Score: 1

    Greetings!!

    jafac wrote:
    "I want my money back. I want my two hours back"

    This forces me to ask the question... what movie did you go see? MiB2 was only about 70 minutes long!! That's 1 hour 10 minutes for the mathematically disinclined. It wasn't even long enough to be considered "feature length". That takes 90 minutes.

    Sure, it is listed as having a running time of 85 minutes, but that includes the moronic "Chub Chubs" junk at the beginning. That isn't even a part of the actual film.

    In case anyone is wondering, yes, I am disappointed in the length, I felt if they were going to give me half a movie, I should only have been charged half price.

    I laughed a few times during this, but mostly, I just sat there wondering "why, oh God, why did I come see this??"

    There was one bright point, I did enjoy the part where Agent Kay stuck his finger into the orb when they were in MIB headquarters, and subsequently caused the major disruptions to the contents thereof. That's about the best part of the movie. And that wasn't even real good. Just kinda funny.

    All in all, my review would be summed up as:
    "Somewhat amusing, don't pay full price though."

    -Zzyzzx

  85. Get ready to overdose on sequels... by eatenn · · Score: 1
    It has also lost some of the originality. What happened to new movies with original screenplays?"

    Hollywood is obsessed with sequels right now because they generally make more than the originals do. On the go right now (to name but a few): Ocean's Twelve (good lord), Meet the Fockers, a Fast and the Furious sequel, another American Pie, Indiana Jones, X-Men, etc etc etc...

    The assgoblins in Hollywood don't care if there's logic for a sequel, they just want all of us to take it up the tailpipe a couple more times so they can screw us outta a few more bucks (and some of my faith in humanity).

    Hopefully they'll get over this damn trend soon.

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  86. Re:MIB was not really that good, so what do you ex by Chad+Page · · Score: 1

    Actually MIB 1's plot was scaled back a lot *after filming*... the DVD goes into how the galaxy was being transferred between races (the scene where Mr. Rosenburg gets shot had a meeting between both) and the bug stole it just to start a war. This was Too Complicated so they looped a lot of dialogue etc.

  87. Re:American Continent? Needs correction by Docrates · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    That's geographic ignorance. The continents are pretty well distinguished from each other, more than with others. Also, Central America is just part of another continent. It is not a continent by itself.

    It's not ignorance, trust me, it's just a different way to distinguish world regions, the same way there are different measurement units. Fifty years ago in most schools (in my region), it was generally accepted that Eurasia was one big continent, but due to economic and political differences, it was "decided" to separate them into two different continents. The way it's taught here is fairly simple: a Continent is a large, self contained landmass seprated by oceans, but larger than an island, with the new twist that Europe and Asia are two separate continents. BTW, that's the dictionary definition (Real Academia de la Lengua Española). So now it's generally accepted in Latin America that the continents are America, Europe, Africa, Asia and Oceanía (which includes Australia but also includes New Zeland and other nearby islands).

    The bottom line is, just becuase they teach you in the US that the continents are the ones you've heard, doesn't mean it's a universally accepted truth. It's not. It's the same with the point I was trying to make: It's generally considered ofensive from Mexico to Argentina that you guys consider yourselves the only Americans there are. Most Americans that live in the US don't know that, unfortunately. Wether you wanna hear it or not, it's the truth. Even if you don't agree. So you can either disregard it and sound like a jerk if you ever travel down here, or learn from it and keep it in mind. Or you can do the third option which is to mod me down and shut me up like someone did with my previous post...How un-american (the continent, not the country).

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  88. The Origional by ggwood · · Score: 1

    The origional did so well in part because it was
    rated PG-13 and there was virtually nothing out which
    had a similar rating. It's success spurred the production
    of movies aimed at the young teen audience.

    I've seen both films and neither is very origional. There
    are origional movies coming out all the time in my neighborhood
    but people do not go see them. Alas.

    -G. G. Wood

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  89. Re:MIB and 9/11 by jquirke · · Score: 2

    No, but I'm pretty sure I saw the World Trade Centre a couple of times.

  90. Re:MIB was not really that good, so what do you ex by WINSTANLEY · · Score: 1


    I did not know that, but it make mucho sense.

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  91. best way to tell by BigBir3d · · Score: 2

    I saw this movie in a theatre that only had about 20 or so people in it, on opening day! Usually, if a movie is good, albeit funny, dramatic, or maybe both, the crowd usually goes nuts. Not so for this one. There were numerous punchlines I which the sprint pin could have been heard hitting the floor. Most of the movie was a rehash of the first one. If it was not for the short before the movie, it would have been a complete waste of money.

    Also, I must say, commercials and trailers? It now takes 25 or more minutes for the "blockbuster" movies to start. Doesn't it anger anyone else that tickets prices, food prices, even video game prices have gone up at the theatres in the last year, and now I have to watch tv ads too?!

    Truly exasperating.

  92. Just Like Taco... by Local+Loop · · Score: 1

    Just like Taco to piss all over somebody else's review.

    Jeez, let people do their jobs already.

  93. my quick thoughts by JimBobJoe · · Score: 2

    The last film I saw was SW2:AOTC in a DLP theater. Now I know why DLP is so cool--the brightness is amazing, so the first ten minutes of MIB2 was spent thinking "god...its just not as bright."

    ****spoilers alert*****

    Anyway, i think i generally liked it enough, though there were a few cheezy moments. My biggest disappointment is that they didn't develop the video store guy enough...here's a guy who, having seen all those mysteries unknown videos, who probably has a good idea of what MIB does, and he really wasn't showing it off (which woulda really annoyed Kay and Jay since they try to be all secret and shit.) C'mon...he coulda had his own black sunglasses or something. ...and his gf was way too cute.

  94. WTF! by FriscoJohn · · Score: 1

    I've read 7 reviews, and NO ONE MENTIONED THE CHUBB CHUBBS! It was a great cartoon.....worth the price of admission....worth going back to see again, to catch what I missed in it the first time.

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    1. Re:WTF! by taeric · · Score: 1

      I actually tagged along with some friends who went to see it Friday. It was not included!!! I was horrified. We waited till after the credits to see if they simply moved them. Nope, they simply left it off.

      That is almost unforgiveable. I wonder how many people didn't see it.

  95. I should have listened to the theme song by CleverNickName · · Score: 3, Funny

    Actually, the first warning sign that this was going to be a crappy movie (unheeded by me and my wife) is the Will Smith song. If a plot can be neatly summarized in a hip hop song, that should be a clear indicator to just stay away from the theatre.

    1. Re:I should have listened to the theme song by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
      • If a plot can be neatly summarized in a hip hop song, that should be a clear indicator to just stay away from the theatre.
      • Wesley saves the day!
      • Wesley saves the Enterprise!
      • Wesley saves the Federation!
      • Wesley saves the Universe!
      • Wesley tricks me into clicking to his post and then accidentally reading a Jon Katz review, wiping out all the accumulated goodness in his life!
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    2. Re:I should have listened to the theme song by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2
      Sooo... If there was a movie about Los Angeles sinking into the ocean, and the opening of the movie had the song Ænima as its opener, you wouldn't watch it?

      I suppose it's different, than Men in Black. I imagine a movie with that as an opener has the potential of making a lot of people think. Not by turning it into a 9/11 tragedy clone, but by actually realizing what needs to be flushed from the world.

      Oh well, there's no way anyone would want to see it. In wartime, America is perfect, right? Right!

      So pass me the popcorn! I'm helping the economy by going to see this one!

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  96. I agree! by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

    I think the reason why people have loved Lilo & Stitch is because of the fact the writers (Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois) created some extremely impressive character interaction between Lilo, Nani and Stitch. That plus the fact the animation was very well done and the ending of the film worked so effectively is the reason why the movie is doing a lot of repeat business. :-) That's why I've seen the movie three times already.

  97. Taco, Taquito... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Hollywood IS bland...

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  98. Movies don't suck by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2

    you are just constraining yourslef (as most people do) to a very narrow choice (Hollywood blockbusters).

    Try more Indy cinema and foreign films, many riches are to be found there, concentrating more on the movie and less in the artists and the hype.

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  99. May it be that some people need more than fun? by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2

    If one go movie after movie just having fun, well, one ends just a simplet uninteresting moron, or one was one in the first place.

    Even fun has to be presented in an intelligent, original manner.

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    1. Re:May it be that some people need more than fun? by mandolin · · Score: 2
      If one go movie after movie just having fun, well, one ends just a simplet uninteresting moron, or one was one in the first place.

      It looks like you tried to paint "moron" with too wide a brush and ended up spilling it all over yourself. I hope english isn't your first language.

      On topic, I saw the movie and it was watchable, but the old greatness was too spotty. It tried to be funnier than it was. My favorite scene was TLJ's opening post office speech.

  100. Re:My god... by C0LDFusion · · Score: 1

    Movie would've been better, IMHO, if they went back and did an Agent K and Agent L (Remember the woman from Being John Malkovich, the coroner chick?) thing.

    I think it would've turned out more interesting that way, but then again, probably not.

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  101. Re:Dollars backwards? by C0LDFusion · · Score: 1

    You make a good point, but I don't think making yourself out to be a Frenchie-Canuck is cool.

    Not that this matters. Way offtopic now. Put your dollar signs in front, like a good patriotic American. Or the FBI will come after you for being part of some terrorist plot to undermine our dialectic syntax (or lack thereof).

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  102. the big payoff by shninja · · Score: 1

    The big payoff for Tommy Lee Jones, Barry Sonnenfield, and Will Smith, is the rumored 10% each of the NET take for the first ten days of the film. If this sequel is not as successful as the first movie, and trails off or even tanks after the first week, the distributor will be taking a bath on it. I have heard of deals like this before, such as Saving Private Ryan, which Tom Hanks and Spielberg each got 17.5% of the box office over the entire run of the movie. 35% for Hanks and Spielberg is a giant backend deal almost equaled here by MIBII, although only over the first 10 days of US release.