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Skydiving Across the English Channel
loonix_gangsta writes "Felix Baumgartner, an Austrian, has become the first person to skydive 35 km (22 miles) across the English Channel. Wearing a jumpsuit with a large carbon fin strapped to his back he reached speeds of up to 360 km/h. The whole flight took approximately 14 minutes. The newsitem is being covered by the BBC, SkyNews
and CNN."
You know, the plane is blowing up, Bond puts two in the bad guy and grabs a boogie board then straps it to his back. The music kicks in ("DAA DAA DOOOM DAA-DAA, DAA-DAA-DAA"), Bond grabs the gal, and whoosh, out the door.
From the CNN article: "He said cloud cover meant he could not see where he was going and had to follow his two planes across the Channel.". I bet nobody believed the pilot of the 747 at first. "No really, was a guy, with a rocket pack or something, honest!".
"jumpsuit with a large carbon fin strapped to his back "
So, does he play 'Shark' when he gets into the water?
Apparently his backpack was running Linux, that's how he stayed up for so long ;-)
The newsitem is being covered by the BBC, SkyNews and CNN.
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How appropriate.
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Can it still be called skydiving in this case? Looks more like he was just the external payload for a small glider! Still, looks like fun.
no need for a ticket and all.
"Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Is it..."
"No, actually, it's Felix Baumgartner."
"Oh."
He must have accelerated slowly.
.23h == 82.8km
14 minutes is ~0.23 hours. 360km/h *
What interests me, is how he managed to accelerate up to the 360 kph mark, and slow back down, without the sharp sudden stop that I associate with skydiving. (C'mon you know you saw him bouncing along a field until he smacked into an old hardwood)
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Mr Baumgartner had prepared for three years for this flight, with rigorous training including strapping himself on to the top of a speeding Porsche.
Now that's just the kind of project lead up I need. Somewhat more exciting than preparing 3 years for a product launch that involves little more than phoning around organising four different companies and keeping them all on track.
I need a change of pace.
"with a large carbon fin strapped to his back"
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I don't see how hard this could be with wings and 5+ miles of altitude to work with. However, it is pretty cool.
1. Add a heat sheild.
2. Add pressure suit.
3. Increase altitude to 62 miles.
4. Find X-Prize team loony enough to let someone jump out the door.
...
6. Profit.
(Seriously, as an occasional skydiver/former paratrooper, this sounds like a f--king blast.)
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Mr Baumgartner had prepared for three years for this flight, with rigorous training including strapping himself on to the top of a speeding Porsche.
Did the driver know ?
"What Officer, a man strapped to the roof of the car as we went down the AutoBahn ?"
"Yes sir"
"I don't belive you, why isn't he there now"
"He dropped off over the bridge and glided over the river"
"Have you been drinking officer ?"
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We could have saved a lot of money and time with this methodology.
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Which is odd given that the guy flew from Dover to France, i.e.\ was comming from west by north-west.
I forsee a day when humans will attach themselves to ever-larger winged contraptions and travel further and further with each passing year. Perhaps, some day in the far future, these "aero-planes" might be equipped with powerful "jet-engines" which would enable the intrepid pioneers of the sky to travel across the very oceans themselves. Perhaps pretzels could also be served on these voyages.
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I think he's jumped the shark though
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From the BBC article:
"Mr Baumgartner had prepared for three years for this flight, with rigorous training including strapping himself on to the top of a speeding Porsche."
Are we sure this isn't a Darwin Award?
...to mention kangaroos, barbies, shrimps, or anything to do with Australia gets to follow him, but without a chute... :)
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Since when were you allowed to strap a small aircraft to your back and call it skydiving?
It's funny how both Sky News and BBC say the speed reached is 220 mph and how CNN says it's 200 km/h. Hmm... someone's obviously got it wrong. ;-)
;-) It'd require READING ALL THREE ARTICLES.
But then again, who (here) is to notice this discrepancy.
How much velocity is necessary to start horizontal flight? I mean, what would have kept someone from strapping their glass desktop cover to their back and jumping outta the window?
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Does the picture remind anyone else of the old cartoon?
I'm sure the French are thinking, "Oh, great! Yet another way for our country to be invaded!"
It's probably just as well he didn't get too far inland, or he might have been shot down by militant French farmers, who mistook him for 'ze cursed Rosbif!' (ie. English)... *grin*
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imagine a flying Palestinian suicide bomber...
Not in Israel, though. At least, not for long, if the Israeli military have any say in the matter... *whoosh!* *BANG!*
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Read it and weep you "defcon jump" weenies!
Ok, it's very cool, looks really fun, and it's an impressive feat, but can you really call it skydiving if you strap wings on yourself? What's with calling it a "fin"? I'm sorry, but those are wings. I'm pretty sure that a bird that high up with an oxygen tank could "skydive" (AKA glide") 35 km too.
Now, if someone wants to try this with only a parachute strapped to their back, then I'll agree with you that it's skydiving. All this guy did was fly across the English Channel in a really small glider that has a parachute instead of landing gear.
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"With the aid of a specially engineered carbon composite wing. Baumgartner will leap out of a transport plane from flight leve 270 (9000 meter - the height of Mount Everest) and then soar towards another world record at over 360km/h. If he succeeds, he will be the first person to have crossed the channel unaided, in free fall."
He's not really in free fall, it's in a glide with a wing that provides some lift and direction. Hardly seems "unaided" and in fact, his own statement above states that he's "aided" by the wing.
Still, it looks very very cool.
The pioneer of this idea was Leo Valentin. He made several rigid wing skydives in the 1950s.
Given that terminal velocity for a skydiver is around 200km/h, I'm guessing the CNN article got it right. I don't see how strapping a rather large wing to your back could manage to nearly double that speed.
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Or at least something very similar. Bond and the american agent ride on top of similar wings to get into North Korea.
When I read about this and saw the picture, I immediately thought of Scaled Composites' entry Space Ship One and jumping from it at apogee. Space Ship One returns to earth in a high drag configuration to minimize aerodynamic heating (which would be important for a parachutist).
As for the technology being available, this was first done in 1962 by USAF Capt. Joe Kittinger.
The only element required now is to find somebody stupid enough to try it.
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...but this takes the cake.
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So much for skydiving.
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Thank you, there will be a repeat performance at 3:00 and again at 5:00.
Seriously though, this dude is my hero. I never heard of him before this story, but strapping a wing on your back and jumping out of a plane at 30,000 feet. Damn, what a cool way to die.
That is how I wanna go out.
I am gonna be the coolest dude in heaven.
Or hell. Depending on your outlook on such things.
Hmmm, take a look at this links here and here
;-) but sometimes these guys stretch things a bit far... But what do you expect from Bolehland (Boleh in malay means can or can do so literally, it's the land of anything possible ;-)
I know I'm supposed to be patriotic (being a Malaysian myself
They have a website to support the event, unfortunately it is in malay, but maybe there's some info in english somewhere.. Look here
But all started from the English Channel Challenge 2003, check it out here!
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Main Entry: skydiving
Pronunciation: -"dI-vi[ng]
Function: noun
Date: 1957
: the sport of jumping from an airplane at a moderate altitude (as 6000 feet) and executing various body maneuvers before pulling the rip cord of a parachute
It seems to me that the addition of a wing has changed the nature of the achievement.
Sadly, the wife said no. I guess it's another tie for me. /me cries.
Ok, we all understand that he had wings on, get over it.
I'd like to see somone (Angelina Jolie) do something like this (Tomb Raider 2) off of a tall building or something. No seriously! I think it could work... Forget the wings, try flaps of fabric between your extremities. Yeah...
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I'm sure those M-163 and 167s on the Israeli side of the borders will make short work of a gliding tango.
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And I thought that the militant French farmers only attacked McDonald's? *chuckle*
Threaten to take away their EU subsidies, and they'll attack just about anything.
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Duh, they use a helicopter gunship. Oh, wait... what if they've only got air-to-surface missiles? :-)
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While the photo on the BBC article shows a "backpack" with hard wings sticking out of it, the description (especially that of his legs getting tangled in the rear wings) sounds more like a "Birdman" type suit.
Popular Science did a great article on gliding/sky diving with wings featuring the Birdman suits. Read it here.
This article has some good info that helps answer comments made below about diving with wings not really being free-fall, but in fact being a form of gliding.
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BASE jumped off the statue of Christ in Rio, which is 30m.
"It's the lowest base jump in the world," said jump organiser Stefan Aufschnaiter. "Normally you need 50 or 60 metres. It's extremely dangerous," he said.
As you can imagine. BASE jumping is a sport with a pretty high fatality rate.
I live in Dover (where he jumped from) and the local radio was reporting yesterday about how the coastguard were pretty pissed off with him, he hadn't checked with them first and there was a decent chance that he was going to come down in the World's busiest shipping lane and they would have to go rescue him.
Suck figs.
I wonder if he came in at the right angle and at the right speed.... Could he also become the first person to skip across the English Channel. Now that would be something to see.
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Here is Leo Valentin's 1950s version
I really think what that Austrian skydiver demonstrated may have some real military applications.
Imagine US Special Forces soldiers wearing these suits (which have been coated with radar-absorbing materials to reduce radar cross-section) and being launched from 32,000 feet on a C-17 cargo plane at night. They could glide 30 miles or more, which would allow these forces to be inserted far into enemy territory.
(Come to think of it, the US Special Forces may already HAVE this capability.)
...Some Austrian guy threw himself headlong into France, caught them all by surprise with the audacity and speed of it... ...And there wasn't a white flag of surrender in sight.
And as for diagonal speed, I don't see why the plane wouldn't already be heading towards France when he jumped out of it. That way he's already got 150mph or so of forwards velocity. (That's about how it looks from the illustration in the BBC article.)
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from CNN:
...jumping from an aircraft above the English port of Dover and landing near Calais six minutes and 22 seconds later with crowds...
from BBC:
...leapt from a plane above Dover at 0509 BST, landing 22 miles (35 kilometres) away in Cap Blanc-Nez near Calais just 14 minutes later...
I looked at the pictures an the BBC. It looks like the one in ToyStory!
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if you go 360 kmh, mostly downward in the beginning, your horizontal velocity will be considerably less.
did you think he was 6 feet from the water the whole time when he did this?!
imagine a right triangle whose height is 22 miles, base is the English Channel and create its hypotenuse...well, you went to school, you do it.
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For his next feat he's going to eat Chichester Cathedral.
Parachutes will explode if deployed over a certain speed. Most are recommended to open under 150 knots.
A skydivers must first use their body position to slow to a safe deployment speed. It usually only takes a few seconds.
The diagram at the bottom of the BBC report doesn't do any justice to his feat. He jumped at an altitude of 9,000 m (or 9 km), and traveled a distance of 35 km -- nearly 4 times the distance of his initial height! It's like if I was 10 feet above the ground, I had to do a long distance jump of almost 40 feet. As a point of comparison, Carl Lewis' best for the long jump in track and field was a little longer than 29 feet (and that was with a fast running start). The picture at the bottom of the BBC article should have been closer to scale -- just looking at it, one might think that he just had to glide two times the distance of his initial height.
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22 miles? Psh. Had he the foresight to put R-Type stickers on his wing/fin/thing, he would have made it to London, easy.
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What's the big deal about this being the English Channel? Swimming across it, yes. It's over twenty miles and the water's friggin' cold and you get to lay down on dry land after it's over.
But skydiving across it? "Across" implies that you started on land, not at a point five miles above that land. He could just as easily skydived that much horizontal distance anywhere else in the world and it would have (probably) been just as much of an accomplishment
Just seems like a strange sort of headline to me, that's all. It's like this guy was just trying to think of a way to get across the English Channel that no one else had done yet, and this was all he could come up with.
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Wile E. Coyote in his batsuit burning into the english shore at 360 Kph.
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I was wondering how he was able to afford it - Red Bull $ponsored him. also, Skynews had the correct time for his flight 6 minutes instead of 14 - makes sense - and makes his average speed about 150mph.
Finally, note that he did strap himself to a honda civic for testing. He would have looked rediculous, like those (front wheel drive) hondas with big spoiler/wing on the back and a pepsi can for a muffler.
"It's the lowest base jump in the world," said jump organiser Stefan Aufschnaiter. "Normally you need 50 or 60 metres. It's extremely dangerous," he said.
I am now about to attempt to break the "lowest base jump" world record - and whats more I will do it without using a paracute.
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Successfully completed with no injuries.
I claim the new record with my fearless jump from a piece of paper to the ground - 0.1mm!
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Apart from the weird contraption that he strapped on his back, what is the big news here? My former army unit and special forces all across NATO have done HAHO (High Altitude High Opening) jumps that go more than 50km since the 80s. Usually with predecessors of the G9. The main problem is that it's extremly cold at 8-10,000 meters and that you have to jump with supplemental oxygen. Don't try this at home, people have gotten frostbite and even died in exercises.
Im picturing an army of Muhammads flying across the atlantic with bomb clusters strapped to themselves. Ofcourse due to flight time provisions of night time sandles, turban press and a copy of "Suicide For Dummies" or "All-ah Need Is My AK47" is also provided by the MAD (Muslim Air Drop) squad.
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... is the fact that the UK (where the BBC and Sky News are based) uses (nominally at least) the metric system and the US(where CNN HQ are) uses Imperial (or English, British or whatever is called) system.
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Nah, we would have said :
;-)
"La perfide Albion nous envahi de nouveau !
Boutons les anglois volants hors de France"
Btw we would have been nice and we would have paid his
eurostar ticket. Back to London at 334.7km/h !!!
(new record from yesterday)
Gone quick as he came
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That's the speed you are going when you hit the Airport Terminal.
That's incredible! The article also said:
Mr Baumgartner said the plane was at 30,000 ft (9,000 m) when he jumped - and he initially reached speeds of 360 km (220 miles) per hour. For most of the freefall, he was travelling at about 220 km (135 miles) per hour, he said.
Well, that's not so incredible now. The BBC diagram makes things reasonably clear. 9km up 36km long, surprisingly enough gives you a path that's not that much longer than 37 km, we'll call it 39 because it was an arc. His maximum speed was 360 km/hr and he slowed down as he got closer to the ground. Fortunately for him, his chute opened and he got that great sudden stop that comes before you get a much greater stop. 14 minutes must have felt like an eternity.
His glide angle was a respectable 1 verticle to 4 horizontal.
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Mr Baumgartner said the plane was at 30,000 ft (9,000 m) when he jumped - and he initially reached speeds of 360 km (220 miles) per hour.
So which system do you want to use, metric or imperial?
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Now would he have jumped out at 30km height, he would have broken the sound barrier and then, slowed down to 220kph.
Mach I at 30 km (18.6 miles) is about 675 mph. He was travelling, at his fastest, at 360 kmh (200 mph), nowhere near the sound barrier at any altitude. The sound barrier increases and decreases even as altitude increases, but it never goes lower than about 660 mph. Here's a chart of Mach 1 at different altitudes.
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There's also HAHO.
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I always thought that the human body had trouble at altitudes above 20,000feet simply because of the lack of airpressure.
:) (although I acknoledge that this is the other way around... returning to a higher air pressure)
Even though he had an oxygen supply would the rapid change of air pressure cause him serious problems? His ears... severe headaches... risk of seizures... yadda ? And what about the guy who dropped from 100,000 feet?
Christ look what happens to a scuba diver if he returns to the surface too quickly... the compressed air in his blood expands to fuck him up
The crossing the Channel is regarded as a big barrier since The Daily Mail sponsored a competition to cross the channel, which was won by Louis Bleriot (1909?). Since the Channel is the first significant distance between major powers (England/France) it meant new means of post, transport and communication, and aslo meant that flying could be commercialised.
Since then, flyers have regarded it as a sort of first step
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The question is did he eat beans before the flight?
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All kidding aside, due props to the fellow. Anyone else had flashbacks to Pilotwings 64 on the Nintendo 64?
Is use of the terms "skydiving" and "free fall" really correct when the guy achieved 35 kilometers horizontal motion for only 9 kilometers of vertical motion? Sounds more like "gliding" to me...
(for comparison, it's equivalent to a 26% incline, about the same as an average ski-slope)
He might have been mucking around with a wing for three years. I'll bet my bottom dollar it was not something that people would call training (e.g. concerted effort to develop skills to handle wing). The main thing to take from all the claims about speed, danger, etc is that this is a stuntman with an eye for publicity. Of course his life was in danger every second. Of course he trained for 3 years.
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I would have been impressed if he had landed that wing instead of copping out and pulling the chute. he did less than a hang-glider The guys that Air-board at least do more than just lay there, they do stunts and change directions. Now if he would have bled off that airspeed, and flared up to a landing... that would have been worthy of /.
One of my all time favorites; Monty Python's Ron Obvious of Neaps End attempts to jump the English Channel
I was rather surprised too... sorry if this is redundant already, but I found it on http://www.saifai.co.uk/pse10.shtml
... Mr Vercotti... .. I like the police a lot, I've got a lot of time for them.
Here goes:
Voice Over: There is an epic quality about the sea which has throughout history stirred the hearts and minds of Englishmen of all nations. Sir Francis Drake, Captain Webb, Nelson of Trafalgar and Scott of the Antartic - all rose to the challenge of the mighty ocean. And today another Englishman may add his name to the golden roll of history: Mr Ron Obvious of Neaps End. For today, Ron Obvious hopes to be the first man to jump the Channel.
Ron runs up to group of cheering supporters. An interviewer addresses him.
Interviewer: Ron, now let's just get this quite clear - you're intending to jump across the English Channel?
Ron: Oh yes, that is correct, yes.
Interviewer: And, er, just how far is that?
Ron: Oh, well it's twenty-six miles from here to Calais.
Interviewer: Er, that's to the beach at Calais?
Ron: Well, no, no, provided I get a good lift off and maybe a gust of breeze over the French coast, I shall be jumping into the centre of Calais itself.
Brief shot of group of Frenchmen with banner. 'Fin de Cross-Channel jump'.
Interviewer: Ron are you using any special techniques to jump this great distance?
Ron: Oh no, no. I shall be using an ordinary two-footed jump, er, straight up in the air and across the Channel.
Interviewer: I see. Er, Ron, what is the furthest distance that you've jumped, er, so far?
Ron: Er, oh, eleven foot six inches at Motspur Park on July 22nd. Er, but I have done nearly twelve feet unofficially.
Ron breaks off to make training-type movements.
Interviewer: I see. Er, Ron, Ron, Ron, aren't you worried Ron, aren't you worried jumping twenty-six miles across the sea?
Ron Oh, well no, no, no, no. It is in fact easier to jump over sea than over dry land.
Interviewer: Well how is that?
Ron Er, well my manager explained it to me. You see if you're five miles out over the English Channel, with nothing but sea underneath you, er, there is a very great impetus to say in the air.
Interviewer: I see. Well, er, thank you very much Ron and the very best of luck.
Ron Thank you. Thank you.
Interviewer: (to camera) The man behind Ron's cross-Channel jump is his manager Mr Luigi Vercotti. (turns to speak to Vercotti, who has a Mafia suit and dark glasses) Mr Vercotti, er Mr Vercotti
Mr Vercotti: What? (mumbles protestations of innocence) I don't know what you're talking about.
Interviewer: Er, no, we're from the BBC, Mr Vercotti.
Mr Vercotti: Who?
Interviewer: The BBC.
Mr Vercotti: Oh, oh. I see. I thought, I thought you were the er .
Interviewer: Mr, er, Mr Vercotti, what is your chief task as Ron's manager?
Mr Vercotti: Well my main task is, er, to fix a sponsor for the big jump.
Interviewer: And who is the sponsor?
Mr Vercotti: The Chippenham Brick Company. Ah, they, er, pay all the bills, er, in return for which Ron will be carrying half a hundredweight of their bricks.
We see a passport officer checking Ron's passport.
Interviewer: I see. Well, er, it looks as if Ron is ready now. He's got the bricks. He's had his passport checked and he's all set to go. And he's off on the first ever cross-Channel jump. (Ron runs down the beach and jumps; he lands about four feet into the water) Will Ron be trying the cross-Channel jump again soon?
Mr Vercotti: No. No. I'm taking him off the jumps. Er, because I've got something lined up for Ron next week that I think is very much more up his street.
Interviewer: Er, what's that?
Mr Vercotti: Er, Ron is going to eat Chichester Cathedral.
Cut to Chichester Cathedral. Ron walks up to it, brushing his teeth.
Interviewer: Well, there he goes, Ron Obvious of Neaps End, in an attempt which could make him the first man ever to eat an entire Anglican Cathedral.
Ron takes a hefty bite at a buttress, screams an
Michael, what do you know about the 101st Airborne? Hello, they jump using staitic line not freefall.
This guy is way out there
The world record hang glider flight is over 430 miles, and he started at like 2000 feet agl.
The BBC article put it nicely "Falling with style" just like Buzz Lightyear.
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No, I didn't read every comment. However, in the reading I did do, I found no mention of the fact that Red Bull energy drink was an obvious sponsor. Their logo emblazoned on his wing and chest.
I thought it was funny as hell.
I've got about 900 skydives, and have jumped several times from 50km, and I was not cold at all.
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Should we really consider this a "skydive"? I think it's more closly realted to hang gliding although with a much smaller wing.
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It's not just the cost of the insurance. If Jolie had been hurt, there'd have been no movie, and that's a disaster no matter how much insurance you have. When they were filming LOTR in New Zealand, the producers forbad the actors from participating in dangerous sports. But hang-gliding and skydiving are big there (what better way to see the famouse NZ landscape?!), and this rule was widely ignored. Which made for a lot of hair-tearing. If they'd had to cancel production, they might have gotten most of their production costs back from insurance, but it'd have been a big setback in a bunch of careers, not to mention a couple years out of the lives of a lot of people.