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SallyMac writes "The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has issued a Space Weather Warning. On Friday, May 13th, NOAA detected a 'geomagnetic storm of extreme proportions'. From the article: 'This event registered a 9 on the K-Index, which measures the maximum deviation of the Earth's magnetic field in a given three-hour period...The scale ranges from 0 to 9, with 9 being the highest. This was a significant event.' See the article on the NOAA site for more information." Spaceweather.com has details on the resulting auroras.
Why couldn't they use a scale of 1 to 10 like EVERYBODY ELSE?
Friday the 13th?
Of all the Universal Constants, here's one I know: Nice guys finish last
I _would_ have taken the freeway home on friday had I known, but instead I got caught in this horrible weather while traveling through the upper atmosphere.
Way to have 20/20 hindsight NOAA.
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I couldn't get from the article what the duration of disruption is. Anybody know?
"This event registered a 9 on the K-Index, which measures the maximum deviation of the Earth's magnetic field in a given three-hour period...The scale ranges from 0 to 9, with 9 being the highest. This was a significant event.'"
Alright everybody DUCK AND COVER!
There was very poor shortwave propagation yesterday. Now I see why...
Let me take a guess .. I am prolly totally ofdf here so if you take this as real without verifying that'd be stupid with a zero on a scale of 1 to 10. ..
.. maybe they zhose to rate from 0 to 9 because if you want to represent "10" you'd need two digits.
.. I mean if there is no activity .. you'd want to rate it as zero (null) not 1 (which sort of implies there's some activity.
So anyway
Plus it's confusing to start from 1
Is there a RSS feed where I can get this kind of news in a *timely* manner?
Two days ago something happened that could have caused some major problems. It didn't. Oh and be sure to catch the auroras yesterday. They sure were great. Thanks for the heads up ;)
Scroll down to Satellite Environment plot
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/today.html
there is also a plot which will update live
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/satenv.htm
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Ok I know I am at zero karma, but can someone tell me if I should be worried or not? What do I expect from this?
i guess that would explain the light show we saw up here in western canada tonight, very vibrant greens, blues, yellows violets and all dancing like mad. I wonder if anyone else in the world is getting them as well?
What's the point to issue an alert for an event that took place 3 days ago?
I think that the The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration needs a faster internet connection.
Did you know that 65 million years ago an asteroid hit the earth? Maybe on the news archive at NOAA we can find this news.
the 'perfect space storm' of 1859.e rstorm.htm
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/23oct_sup
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Hell, it would have been nice to know this in advance...
As it was, got out of work about 0800Z Sunday morning and as I was driving home, thought I saw the most bizarre clouds. When I pulled into the driveway, there were these flashes that moved from west to east in the night sky. Since I live next to a small airfield, I assumed it was the lights from there, but when I looked in that direction, they were turned off. So, drove about 20 minutes west of the big city (damn that light) and was treated to a show that words cannot describe. This being my first aurora event, I had didn't know what to expect. I sat and watched for 45 minutes as the sky literally danced. About 30 minutes in, the aurora moved to right above my head and turned into a completely different show with different bands shooting out above me.
To anyone who hasn't witnessed an aurora, take the time to travel someplace that you can view them. It is totally worth the trip.
Judging by the POES Auroral Activity graphic, things are firing up again. Damn my luck that thundershowers are moving in to cloud things up....
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All Quiet at the Deblois Wood Chip Power Plant. Not even a blip in the output voltage or vars over the past 12 hours.
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
What was observed on the 13th was solar flare activity. It doesn't become a geomagnetic storm until it reaches the earth, which it did on the 15th.
Is it really that hard to copy the right information out of sources?
The sun is fucking with your head.
Here is the list of "Space Weather Alerts" they offer:
They'll call you with alerts 48-hours in advance when possible. Pretty cool for $4.95/month. Anyone want to buy it for me as a gift?
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"To anyone who hasn't witnessed an aurora, take the time to travel someplace that you can view them. It is totally worth the trip."
Welcome to nature's version of a fluorescent lamp.
...i want to be sure i have this right, on a scale that ranges from 0-9, 9 is the 'highest'? fascinating.
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"I think that the U.S. Gdubbyament is putting these breadcrumbs out so they preempt/outsmart the inquisitive TV media outlets in case something unforseen happens in their testing."
Well that can't be true. According to slashdot, our news media is incapable of independent thought.
Noooo ...
A solar flare occured Friday, leading to a forecast about the K-9 geomagnetic storm which occured yesterday.
Thanks for reading the articles before posting to Slashdot. Woohoo!
There are pictures from around the world (although mainly the US and Canada) at Spaceweather.com
They have pictures from California, South Dakota, Kansas and Illinois. Actually, I now see two more pages of fantastic photos.
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Mostly for historical reasons, and let me tell you that the actual scale is even more complicated. When plotted in the 'native' format, it looks much like sheet music!
:-)
And let me tell you as a practitioner of this subject, it is no joy to code the K-index in a numerical algorithm to model/predict the terrestrial impacts of such storms.
Further, there is more than one "K-index", depending upon which geomagnetic observatories contribute to the making of the "K-index" value, and how they are averaged over the different geomagnetic observatories, which all lie at different geomagnetic coordinates. The most common one is Kp, for which one has values (0-9) such as 0-, 0, 0+ etc, which people like myself must translate into something a computer can understand.
I won't get into the ap, Ap, or Dst geomagnetic storm indices here. Just be thankful that YOU don't need to know this stuff!
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is always alot more accurate once it has occured already. thanks slashdot for making sure we get the weather a few days after it has occured
10 choices should be enough for everybody... *ducks*
Maybe these aliens might have some knowledge about it.
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You've unconvered the great cover up. George Bush and Congelisa Rice have told Chaney to get his pals at Haliburton to create this really, really, top secret Giant Magnetic Device that will fry everyone's brain in the Blue States to clear the way for a Red State migration. The only protection against this new terrible weapon is to wear tin foil under your hat, or if you can find one, a fine holed, metal colander. If the holes are too large then the micro sized Federal agents riding on the magnetic pulses will be able to get through to whisper evil thoughts in your ear and plant tiny alien creatures from Area 52 that will eat your brain. Since you are the one who made this discovery and was foolish enough to post it on the Internet, expect black helicoptors to find you.... Oh no. It's too late. They have you in their sights. Run, run. Run like the wind and don't look back.
Too lazy to create a sig...
I found an automatically generated graph here:
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/kp_3d.html
Maybe the 9K itself caused the warining to be posted after the whole shebang has already passed. At least people could've prepared to see great Auroras.
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
Boy, good thing I was rockin' the tinfoil chapeau on Friday...
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is being pedantic.
When you are the first to mention the word "Ion" and "Storm" and then using them to create a joke in relation to the news article.
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I've read that Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker and will soon reverse its polarity. I wonder if a weakening magnetic field is more susceptible to these kinds of solar flares. (i.e. a normal flare results in a larger perturbation of Earth's magnetic field.)
"This being my first aurora event, I had didn't know what to expect. I sat and watched for 45 minutes as the sky literally danced." So the sky became a person and started dropping it like it's hot? No, it didn't. I'm tired of people using the word "literally" to emphasize things with no regard for its meaning. Literally used to be one of those safe words (no BDSM refrence intended) that meant "No, I'm not exaggerating. I was really stuck 9 hours in traffic." Don't use words you don't understand the meaning of.
You can't use tin foil. That's implanted with secret government RFID equipment they implanted in the tin ore making tin foil actually AMPLIFY the signal.
You need to use aluminum foil. They haven't figured out how to taint Bauxite quite yet.
Uh, to clarify answer #1, I meant "No." as in "No, you should not be worried.", not "No, someone can't tell you if you should be worried or not.".
Also, the answer to #2 is what you can expect from this, which is not necessarily what you, personally, do expect from this.
Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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By definition total destruction is the maximum devistation I would of thought possible in a 3 hour period, ergo, I should invest in new Sun Block 4000 (warning: frequent use may cause skin cancer)
Also in answer to a question way up the top having a scale of 0-9 does have 10 increments(0's a number too!) and also takes less memory to store;-)
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According to the slashdot article, the geomagnetic storm of extreme proportions happened on Friday, May 13. However, the original article clearly states that they happened on the 15th, and that they predicted on the 13th that they would happen on the 15th. Would have also been great to mention what that meant: Northern Lights
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The display was also seen in the South island of New Zealand http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/common/imageViewer/0,14 45,189919,00.jpg
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There are warnings of Solar storms in regions Mercury, Venus, Earth and Moon.
Mercury, Venus. Northerly Space Storm 9, imminent. Showers, good.
Earth, Moon. Northerly Space Gale 8, increasing Northwesterly Storm 9, expected 0700 hours. Showers, good.
And that concludes the Space Weather Warning issued by the Met Office at oh six hundred GMT, stardate 16/5/05.
Talk about news you CANT use... Basically slashdot is saying you missed your chance to see it. Maybe they dont have any one working over the weekend, to post these stories in a timely manner. Pending aurora = news.. Past aurora = NOT NEWS...
Cruising around the NOAA pages a few days ago when this happened, they show live reports from where the Auroras were seen from. THe furthest south that I saw was Fayetville, Arkansas and San Diego California. Auroral activity was pretty strong!
Hmmm.
But wait, you know that what they sell as 'tin foil' is in actual fact aluminum foil, don't you? And now you tell me that this is actually a plot to make us happy when we finally find tin foil, which it turns out is actually filled with RFID equipment? AUUGH! Wait, now I get it... you're one of THEM, aren't you? Huh?
The polarity has, and does indeed reverse; however, 'soon' on the scale in which we speak of these events is on the same order as other geologic or paleolithic phenomena:
1000 years: Imminate
1M: Soon
100M: Long
250M+: Distant
While K-index values relate to maximum field purturbance, no, the solar ejectory matter was significantly above 'normal' (it was extreme), and this 9 K event was not an abbreancy related to the Earth's changing magnetic field.
is an Englishman moaning about the space weather.
You don't need a lab to make mud.
... is rather blameworthy this week. I am glad I am back home on Earth today.
There you are, staring at me again.
back in the 1800's there was a period of solar activity that was so extreme that aurora was seen in the Carribean and telegraph operators had to disconnect or reverse their batteries!
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Iraq and Afganistan are but stepping stones.
Just a thought.
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Actually, the geomagnetic storm was detected on May 15th. The solar flare that caused the geomagnetic storm took place on May 13th. Someone should correct that slashdot article.
but having the digits 10 gives you four options....
Apparently, the Earth magnetic field has decreased by 10% in the last 10 years. During my studies in electrical engineering sub-atomic physics, I learned that a particles velocity can be affected by magnetic fields. Based on Earths weakening magnetic field and the recent increase in solar intensity, I believe this may be one of the reasons causing global warming. If more radiation hits the Earth, shouldn't that also increase the overall temperature of the Earth due to particle scattering and can global warming be contributed to this? I've been bouncing this idea in my head for a while now and I can't see why this MAY not be true.
Well since the original was "1 to 10", that would really be 3 options (0, 1, 10) as 11 would be above the cutoff.
from Californian. I just thought Livermore Labs was doing something funky
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See the second graph on this webpage for a graphical representation of the radiation levels. These are the events where radiation engineers on satellite programs find out if they did their job properly making their equipment hard against single event effects.
2 options (1, 10) as 0 would be below the cutoff. :)
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The problem with your theory is that the warming data points to an increase tied to the start of the industrial revolution with the main increase starting in the late 1800s.
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With the Tapis Plan, we go to eleven. You see, these CMEs come along, and the scale these other blokes use only goes to 9. So, at 9, they're all the way up - all the way. Where can you go from there? Nowhere. So what we do, if we need that extra push into the lower ionosphere, Eleven.
With apologies to the gang.
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my GPS has been *really* inaccurate in the past few days. It's also way off on the altitude. (Mountain View, CA is not at 2,800 feet)
Also my Sirius stuff has had more drop-offs than usual, even when the sky was clear outside.
At this time, it's important for all parties to keep an open mind about global warming. Your notion that global warming is due to industry is as flimsy as my proposition that the warming is due to a weakening magnetic field and more intense Sun. Just like many things in nature, it's a combination of variables and in this case, we MAY both be right. Saying that there's a problem in my theory is conjecture until further evidence is established.
Using a transporter during this interval is just begging to end up in a parallel universe, or split into good and evil halves.
http://www.dcs.lancs.ac.uk/iono/aurorawatch/rt_act ivity/
Except that his notion is also backed by scientists world-wide. Yours is backed by you. Though, I'd love to see some links to articles that back up your proposition - always willing to learn something new.
Until then, I'll place my bet on the more established, and accepted, theory.
Your mind looks a little cramped. Why don't you stretch it a little?
Now I'm not saying that I know for certain that this storm killed my router, but SOMETHING sure did between Friday night and Sunday evening. Of course it was a D-Link, so it's just as likely it died of (un?)natural causes.
Because the scale was created by the same idiot who programmed the snooze button on almost all digital alarm clocks.
I was goining to go space truckiing today, I guess I'll wait.
Ah man that was silly of me. You're right.
it cost him his soul
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Are you sure that you aren't thinking of the Dread Pirate Roberts?
http://www.thisisawar.com/LaughterPB1.htm
Maybe the 9K itself caused the warining to be posted after the whole shebang has already passed. At least people could've prepared to see great Auroras.
There was a fluctuation in the galactic Zone boundaries and we dropped into a slower Zone. Must be why I'm having computer problems today.
I saw it in Oklahoma. We were out at my land (graduation weekend) and I happened to look up and me and the only other person that cared there started freaking out. It was pretty weak from down this south, but still cool.
I see someone didn't bother to actually RTFA
Link for idiots that can't RTFA