France to Be Site of World's First Nuclear Fusion
brad writes "The New York Times (free registration) is reporting that 'France won an international competition today to be the site of the world's first nuclear fusion reactor, an estimated $12 billion project that many scientists see as essential to solving the world's future energy needs.'"
If only /. editors could develop a method for fusing dups.
Try paying attention to your own site.
Falun Dafa is good!
Just fuse the original story and this dupe into a heavier-Z nucleus story.
make world, not war
I just hope it will work.
Big time dupe there.
Nuclear Fusion test reactor: 13.0billion $ /.: Priceless
Not repeating yourself on
Wow... this story was only posted about 2 hours ago. Slashdot reposting is reaching an all-time high in efficiency!
What moron let this title slip by. Uhhhh, the sun? Numerous research reactors?
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
Hmm, this story looks familiar.
ah, that same old song, except this time all on the same screen!
Do the editors even check anymore?
This is sectioned "Hardware", not "Science", so perhaps this time around we could have an actual discussion on fusion technology and the planned plant, not devolve into a flamefest between idiots.
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If only I had paid for a subscription to Slashdot. Then I could have seen the problem early and helped prevent Timothy from screwing up his job.
I didn't have time to read the article the first time it was posted today. Thanks for the helpful dupe!
1- bribe Slashdot editor to post dupe 2- re-post old comments 3- ???? 5- Profit!
Can't you at least wait until the original article scrolls off the main page before you post the same article again...
How hard is it to CHECK THE MAIN PAGE BEFORE YOU POST?!
*bangs head on table*
My only desire would be that the safety procedures at the new reactor are placed under the control of a third party - preferably a college frat house, its members well supplied with halucinogenic drugs, and who could control the reactor's safety computer systems (based on Windows ME) over the Internet from their own dormrooms via a non-secured link.
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Can it be used to fuse the two articles into one?
:)
They are getting nuclear fusion or a reactor that uses it?
I bet that "Brad" character is one of the few thankful for lackluster /. editorialship.
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Seastead this.
Since they already have EuroDisney, and this Fusion thingy might not pan out, the headline just as easily could have been:
France to Be Site of World's Second Largest Boondogle
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Who can remember that long ago? I had to google it to verify that you were right. Luckily, it was still in Google's cache.
I, for one, welcome duplicate stories.
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mod down... was posted in the original discussion here by someone else
Help me take back Slashdot. When did 'News for Nerds' become 'FUD and Conspiracy Theories for Extremist Nutjobs'?
Having sent a few -- typos, "choose a different submitter, damn it, this one's a moron" etc -- I've seen no sign that the "editors" read e-mails sent to the Mysterious Future either.
you had me at #!
Looks like the half-life of a slashdot story is about 7.5 hours...
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This is the news that doesn't end,
yes it goes on and on my friend,
some people started posting it not knowing it's a dupe,
now they'll continue duping it forever just because...
(repeat)
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Gods, man! Its on the same friggin page not a third of the way down....
Very insightful.
Do you always run around plagiarizing posts from dup'ed articles?
Jackass.
The French are going to have TWO nuclear fusion reactors. They are becoming a top world power! :D
This shows how irrational and stupid thinking can win against common sense even on large scales, such as national policy. What about US -- they have not built too many reactors since the mid 80s. Chernobyl scare combined with leftover fear of the cold war nuclear appocalipse didn't help, but one would think people who make such decisions will act rationally.
Seriously though, who on earth is bankrolling this little anyway? It'd be really cool if they could hit the break-even point...then I could get one of these to power my flashy new twin-GF7800s...but we're looking at a 10-year time schedule here.
Is there actually going to be enough dosh within Europe to keep this project going in 10 years time? Who's to say Europe won't become some economic backwater in a decade or so? No offence, but at the rate they're going, countries like China and India (well, if they get over the endemic corruption, and manage to attract more FI) are looking to overtake them in less time that that, and in the meantime the US is chugging along quite happily, with 30% of the world's economy in the palm of its hands, and racking up the foreing debt bonus points....
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I for one am in favor of fusing the French. The only question is what to fuse them with? Maybe an octopus. I don't know what you'd get, but it'd sure throw up a lot of arms when it surrendered!
On one hand, people start talking about ways of preventing solar heat from reaching Earth to reduce global warming, on the other hand, people are getting ready to create power plants that will eventually generate gigawatts.
Well, fusion plants are necessary to replace coal/diesel/fission plants but global warming initiatives should simply focus on making everything more power-efficient and low-emission instead of coming up with inconvenient/impossible ideas. (Some european minister said he was shocked at how much power standby electronics use and suggested that people should not leave TVs&all plugged in when not in use... but how many people would unplug their VCR/TV/PC/etc. to save 5-20W per appliance given the inconveniences?)
How hard is it to scroll down a couple clicks and see the same story before posting? With a more accurate headline to boot. (the world's first nuclear fusion has already occured, God knows where)
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Please see my other posts in this thread.
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If I was feeling clever, I'd go back through the post earlier today and repost some of the things that got +5s, just for the extra karma.
But I'm feeling lazy.
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The only thing that's different between the original post and this dupe is that this one's headline isn't completely accurate - fusion has already happened with the detonation of the H-bomb in... whenever it was.
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The construction of ITER should (hopefully) see the construction of the worlds first energy positive fusion reactor (ie it produces more energy than it uses). however the question is wether the amount of energy produced can power an entire city or if it can barely power a 12W light globe. Hopefully there will be enough research dollars in the future to answer that question.
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I wanna see a dupe where both articles are posted by the same editor next.
Hold up, now. I was reading slashdot earlier, and I'm pretty sure that this article's headline should actually read:
:)
"France to be site of world's *second* nuclear fusion"
That should clear things up for anyone who's confused.
Their may be a grammatical error, misspeling, or evn a typo in this post.
Please see my other posts in this thread?
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duped and the dup is still on the front page.. i don't think it has been this bad in the past only 8 between them.. this is jsut sad
'...if only "Jumping to a Conclusion" was an event in the Olympics.'
All joking aside, wouldn't it be nice if SlashDot's main page worked just like the moderation system? Every submitted story would start with a value of 1 and each moderator could push a story up or down one point. Of course, it all comes together when each user sets their own threshhold for front page stories...
I'm guessing this feature has already been suggested for SlashCode implementation. Maybe I should go check...
Let's duplicate our complaints about the duplicate post! "Same comment, twice on the same page!"
I can only guess that since there isn't a new story every 5 seconds, someone has to approve stories posted.
so, wouldn't someone think to themselves "hey, this isn't news, this is history, we already saw this..."
oh...nevermind.
From TFA:
Greenpeace, for one, stated that "at a time when it is universally recognized that we must reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, Greenpeace considers it ridiculous to use resources and billions of euros on this project."
I swear, I think Greenpeace is more concerned about making sure nobody builds any new powerplants than they are about protecting the environment.
They are against new coal plants with modern scrubber technology, they are against fission plants, now they are against this expiremental fusion plant. Do they realize that humanity needs energy to live and thrive? Do they realize that by not building new more efficient powerplants they are forcing people to rely on older, more polluting powerplants more heavily?
It seems counterintuitive to me, it's like they would rather stick their thumb in the eye of corporations than actually help the environment.
Classic, could be re-phrased as :-
Myself and two other cohorts dreamed up this scheme to enable us to retire early. We dreamt up this project that needed huge sums of cash. We then siphoned 20% off the top straight ionto our own projects, known as wine, women and song.
Of course it was only a matter of time before we were caught and had to retire leaving a new line of porkers at the trough. But those incompentent fools only took 5% and spent the remaining on projects.
This retirment swindle has gone on for years and now everybody aspires to this rather than finding fusion.
And we can see the same story THREE times on the main page!!! That would be a historic first!
Come on slashdotters, let's make it happen!!!
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.... Have scientist meddling in nuclear fusion caused a rip in the very fabric of space time? I could have sworn reading this article a mere 7 hours ago here on /. ...
-everphilski-
So how bad would it be to just repost all the same comments in this story?
Well, it's not like the editors are going to check up on you.
Friend, it's bitter grapes ramblings from a has-been on a GeoCities web site, for Christ's sake. Get a grip.
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
Nope, they've done that before. I remember one that had one story between them.
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Wow. If there is some huge screwup France could be gone. (I know fusion technology should be completely safe if it existed.) That would be so sad wouldn't it? :-)
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Dang, I read this and I thought, for some weird reason, I had just become trapped in the movie "Groundhog's Day".
Scary.
-=Lothsahn=-
A quick trip to google news will show you 307 other sources of this story, which don't require registration. It seems to me like slashdot should never have to link to NYT from the main page.
I can understand if my suggestion is not taken seriously. I only hope it doesn't lead to 307 more dupes.
French location chosen for fusion reactor.
Hmm... 3 times have been done before, but never on the FP I think.
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Of course there was the April Fools Trupe of yore:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=59193&thresho
And then there are the many dupes by the same "Editor" (Usually Zonk):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144599&cid=12
Ah yes, and then there was the dupe that occured less than an hour after the original. There has been some debate as to whether that was even a dupe or just a Slashvertisement, but for our purposes today we will just call it a dupe:
http://www.andrerestivo.com/weblog/archives/slash
All of this has been documented for your protection here:
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or else you might get French Fried, or do we call it Freedom Fried now?
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timothy, meet Zonk. He works at Slashdot too. Like you, he's interested in France's fusion reactor. In fact, he posted a story about it seven hours before you did.
Now go away or I shall dupe you a second time.
If my call is important, why am I talking to a recording?
I cant believe so many moderators are wasting points modding up dupe related comments that have been said a thousand times before. let the dupe die and move on already
TIAEAE!
I believe Amazon has already patented this idea, maybe you should send them a check for disclosing proprietary information.
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
I can almost see both dupes on my front page at once.
Come on, That's less than 12 hours between dupe posts.
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 is the magic number.
Think of it as a chance for "do-over" the comment you thought you'd score high mod points earlier...
Well, but now all comments will be redundant since we posted them already!
When it is duped next time it better be in the "Games" section. I want to play a nice game of Sim Fusion Power Plant.
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Timothy sure seems to have a recurring history of duping posts. He really needs to change his nom-de-plume to "The Duplicator."
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It sure seems that Timothy dupes posts on a recurring basis. "The Duplicator" should be his pen name.
Oh... wait... didn't someone post something about this already??? Silly me.
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Slashdot to be site of many more dups
I am not a num^Wscript.
"Lamb Chop's Play-Along" was children's programming at its finest -- engaging young minds with wit, instead of talking down to them like that GODDAMN EVIL PURPLE DINOSAUR.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
Tokamak technology goes back around 60 years, not 30. It was invented in the 1940s. There is a replica of the original Tokamak style reactor in a small museum at General Atomics in San Diego.
General Atomics, by the way, is in a very Republican area. GA has one of the biggest fusion programs around, AND is part of the established energy industry. They do have a gigantic magnetic fusion reactor there, but also a number of groups working on alternative fusion technologies.
Here's a list of other fusion reactors that came before ITER: http://www.grandunification.com/hypertext/Fusion_
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
We haven't actually achieved nuclear fusion yet? Sonoluminescence fusion appeared to be a failure when independently tested, and cold fusion was a resounding failure. Or is there some new method of nuclear fusion that I haven't yet heard about?
That it is France who chooses to spend 12 billion, taking a risk, to make the world better. A little hypocritical? Or perhaps there will be an international backlash where America and France II constantly bitches and wines about their moral superiority and France I's inevitable failure.
See this is like sim city , in sim city 2000 the fusion power plant was kind of cool , but in sim city 3000 the plant looked much better .
You see this is why its not a dupe it's a sequel , the hardware section looks much better than the science section , though both have pretty much the same features
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Oh, c'mon! It's almost always timothy!
/., diversity means we get several dupes a day, and leave it at that.
It's like OSTG has a program to employ all of the kids from the short bus, and somehow timothy got the gig as editor.
Of that group, he's probably the best at this. So we should show our support. It isn't easy being intellectually-challenged.
But at the same time, we shouldn't be blaming others.
Let's accept the fact that, at least on
JET http://www.jet.efda.org/ has been doing fusion for quite a while.
From the article: Still, few scientists expect a fusion reactor to generate commercially viable electricity before the middle of the century, if by then.
I can see the original post and the dupe in the front page at the same time!!! Woaaa! This time you really have raised the bar for future dupes!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" - Albert Einstein.
I tried to find more about this, but all I find is a lot of trolling on all kinds of web pages.
I will have to side with the people at Wikipedia. I'd like more proof than a Geocites page by an internet troll.
Also, in order to have the Japanese agree to let the project happen in France, they required that the director of the facility was a Japanese. Also keep in mind that EU and France will have to pay 40% of the bill, while the remaining countries will "only" have to pay 10% each.
500 scientists will be working there, half of them being not french. An estimated 3000-4000 other jobs will be created in the region.
The facility itself will cost 12$ billions, but another 8 or 10$ billions will have to be spent within the 10 years following the creation. Specialists estimate that the first results in industry will be seen in about 40 or 50 years. Overall, I'd say it's a pretty good deal for the France (because of the jobs created and the "proudness" of having the largest fusion reactor in the world), but since all the other countries will, of course, profit of the research there, it's not that much of an advantage.
unfortunately the first fusion reaction was the trinity test, or possibly beforehand, and further fusion reactions have been happening in experimenter's basements since the 60s with the Farnsworth Fusor, among many other efforts.
Perhaps what the submitter meant was "hopefully first greater than unity reaction"...
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And you also forgot we already know how to make an H-Bomb. That would be no use.
Want another piece of H-cake ?
glop
They spend months arguing to get one then 2 turn up at once!
Chief Scientist: Nope.
Director: Hmm. So there's a significant chance that this could go 'boom'?
Chief Scientist: Quite spectacularly.
Director: Okay. Let's put it in France. We'll tell them they won a competition or something...
>not the French! These are the folks who
>built a nuke-capable reactor for Saddam
>that the Israeli Air Force had to bomb
In fact the very same France in 1959 sold the entire Dimona nuclear reactor to the zionists. The greater israel jewish hawks continue to use it to build circa 400 A- and H-bombs. With these bomb cache the zionist entity terrorizes the entire middle east and the 900 million muslim people worldwide and opresses the palestinian nation, robbing it of its motherland.
One can only hope that the Dimona reactor will also be bombed one day and peace martyr Mordechai Vanunu will get the Nobel Peace prize he deserves.
It is so disgusting when USA threatens Iran and North Korea over few if any nuclear weapons but turns the blind eye to zionist Israel and its posession of 400 nuclar bombs. Double standards in their most shameful form.
Since they already have EuroDisney, and this Fusion thingy might not pan out, the headline just as easily could have been: France to Be Site of World's Second Largest Boondogle
No way ! Not even close ! Everybody knows that the single largest boondogle in human history is Eurotunnel !
Oh wait......
Thomas-
(Disclaimer: Yes, I'm French)
Tell me, did you ever work out what that grey stuff between your ears was for?
FUSION IS NOT FISSION. A FUSION REACTOR CANNOT GO BOOM EVEN IN THEORY.
While crying and moaning about dupes and rejected submissions isn't exactly constructive criticism, I have to voice my disappointment with the Slashdot editors, especially Timothy, on this one.
I feel particularly annoyed about this news bit. Why is that? Well, I happened to submit this story early tuesday morning (about 10 am GMT / 6 am EST) and it got rejected. It happens and as such is not a big deal. But the following is imho rather embarrassing.
Not only was this news piece accepted and posted on Slashdot later as someone elses submission, it was actually accepted & posted twice (becoming yet another infamous Slashdot dupe). And in this case the poster of the dupe was no other than Timothy, who rejected my submission.
It seems he initially didn't think this particular news was important and rejected my submission. I knew it was an important bit of news to anyone who follows physics and nuclear stuff, a category which many slashdotters fall into. Potentially and on the long run this could be important news to everyone on the planet who uses electricity.
Anyway, the next day Timothy seems to have decided that a less comprehensive and informative submission on the same subject is worth posting, and as icing on the cake, he does it without even bothering to check the site's own news from yesterday (the already posted story was actually still on the frontpage!) thus creating a dupe story.
Only on Slashdot do you find editors who don't even read their own site's frontpage when posting a news story (to avoid dupes), nor remember that they rejected the very same story yesterday. We're all human and mistakes happen. And I'm sure the editors get swamped by a huge number of submissions, which probably aren't exactly a joy to wade through trying to pick the worthy ones.
However, these sort of things seem to happen a bit more often than they could or should. Perhaps the editors could put a little more time and effort into the process, since many of the previous, similar mistakes seem rather easily avoided (at least to a
Ps. Here's my original Slashdot submission about this story just for reference (with a forgotten BBC link added):
After 18 months of wrangling over the construction site of the ITER (International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor) the participants (China, EU, Japan, Russia, South Korea and USA) finally agreed upon Cadarache in France over Rokkasho-Mura in Japan. Japan withdrew its bid after getting a concessions package deal. The 10 billion ($12bn) project will be the 2nd most expensive joint scientific project after the ISS and hopefully a gateway to a commercial fusion reactor prototype. Construction should begin this year and be completed in 2015.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure of the former" - Albert Einstein
There have been dozens of fusion reactors, if not more over the last few decades, some of them in operation now. The NYT has posted an expanded article that corrects the gaffe. Some names you can google for more info: TFTR NSTX JET C-Mod DIII-D
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Yes, because as we all know, "various Democratic Senators and Congressmen could" have a large say in Japan, Britain, Canada, France (et al).
Nice try at "big spending liberals are just wasting $ *again*" spin.
I would have thought that the temperatures and pressures in a fusion reactor could make quite a boom under the right(wrong) circumstances. That aside, like many other UK serfs, I am totally ok with ANY explosion that hits france earlier and harder than us. A meteor that vaporises france a few milliseconds before us would be a 'win'.
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Who would have thought Carl Rove posts on Slashdot and with such a low user ID?
(Sorry, still bitter about that "race".)
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hmm, I guess a penance for not spelling it Citroën is in order
s hip
ok here's a picture
and Citroën Sport's homepage
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Driver / Constructors Champions 2004
Constructors Champions 2003
PSA who own Citroën & Peugeot have won the constructors championship every year this century
So yes, let's hope it is better than the current crop of French engineering !!
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Fusion reactors may be at high pressure+temp, but IIRC, there's not actually much material inside them to go boom. It's not like a fission reactor where the core contains large amounts of radioactive material.
And do YOU actually go to Technocrat?
A couple thousand people have actually registered, but few actually engage in discussions.
That's good if they don't have anything to say, but a little participation would help alleviate the 'Zogger's Blog' feel.
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This time, we're talking about dropping the bomb. About time I say.
Is it just me, or is anybody else concerned about the fact that France is simultaneously trying to all but outlaw Islam, and building a fusion reactor?
We missed you in the original thread, Jim.
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I understand your frustration, but I'm going to bet the article was rejected simply because somebody posted it even earlier than you. I get rejected a lot for that reason. I don't think it's personal -- it's just that, with so many people, it's likely that someone already beat us to the punch.
What would help is if there was some sort of feedback as to why it was rejected. But, I'm sure this horse has been beaten, resurrected, and beaten again.
There is a law with communciation: no communication is always seen as negative. I'm betting it isn't negative, although it seems that way.
Scooby dooby dupe. It's still on the screen. It seems the editors are just bored.
Yours didn't have a NY Times link. And yours wasn't at all misleading and sensationalist, either. To spice things up, maybe add a condescending sentence at the end, like so:
The world's first fusion reactor is soon to be completed in France. Nuclear Fusion is what powers the sun and hydrogen bombs. w00t!
And last, but not least, submit it under the wrong category, like say, Star Wars.
Hopefully France will have better luck than Otto Octavious did :)
There is _no_ evidence that Bussard _ever_ tried to use this for anything not related to making Fusion happen.
It is called Scoop and you can see it at (among other places) SciScoop.com. Everyone gets to vote on stories, not just the moderators. I post several articles a week myself.
isn't this like Scientology?
"We are not tolerant people. We prefer drastically effective solutions"
I used to submit what I considered useful stuff all the time that got rejected. I never took it personally but I eventually got tired of typing up a good story only to see it hit the reject pile, so I stopped submitting anything. I guess that helps what they consider to be a signal to noise ratio, but I have to wonder how many good writeups were rejected so they could post dups, or advertise for companies as "news".
I guess what I'm saying is you are not alone, and the only thing you can really do about it is start your own site if you're so inclined, or put up with the BS here.
I read and article about this that says Greenpeace is apposed to the project. They have really lost there way. All they have to do is hear the word nuclear and there opposed to it. Don't they realize that a key element of any environmental plan is to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels. Ask the Greenpeace people if they are willing to live with candles for lighting or walk to work. They such a bunch of hypocrites.
Also, none of the founders of Scientology had the decency to come out later and try to stop it.
Seastead this.
...to mention that Nuclear Reactors may be an exciting new market for Linux to get into as Windows is rubbish.
Justin.
You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me.
FUSION IS NOT FISSION. A FUSION REACTOR CANNOT GO BOOM EVEN IN THEORY.
Very good point.
I should point out, based on research I did for a TV show on alternative energy back in British Columbia, that the actual shell does become radioactive and has to be disposed of, and some of the particles/waves will create radioactive emissions - but in very low quantities, similar to those found in the process of mining, extracting, processing, and using coal.
Compared to fission, it's incredibly less radioactive in terms of wastes - and near impact.
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During the time I worked on this legislation with Bussard he did tell me about some of Inesco's luxurious accommodations provided by Bob Guccione's support of that fusion company. But that was privately funded and more attributable to Guccione's style than any supposed addiction to luxury suffered by Bussard. Perhaps some folks heard about some of this and mistook it for behavior during the government program.
Seastead this.
Y'know, keeping the English-speaking tech geeks of the world amused/informed all day long is a big job, and the people making it happen behind the scenes are human. I can imagine the nightshift guy, bleary-eyed, handing off the baton to the early shift guy, bleary-eyed, both in need of more caffeine or sleep. They all work really hard to serve us, most of whom don't pay to read this content.
Once in a while, they slip up. The other 364 days of the year, their work is seamless. So instead of giving them a hard time for the once in a blue moon that they make a mistake or dupe an article, why don't we try, for once, to congratulate them for the excellent work they do, and try to be understanding when the human factor kicks in once in a while.
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
Two of the three founders of the Tokamak program have come out against the Tokamak and one of the founders circulated a letter to all of the plasma physics labs as well as to the relevant Congressmen, stating categorically that the Tokamak program was never real -- it was just a vehicle for raising funding so that other more hopeful ideas could be tried.
I scanned the original letter and presented a link to it as an aspect of the fusion power article. This is primary source material -- not original research -- from one of the foremost authorities, indeed one of the fathers of the US fusion energy program. The nothing-better-to-do-with-their-times censored it and quite honestly I just don't have the time, energy or patience to bother with a reversion war with the anonymous bottom feeders.
Seastead this.
You knew it'd be coming, though, didn't you? I mean, "France" did appear in the original story.
Anyone who claims one party or the other has a monopoly on pork barrel spending loses all credibility, period. (The world ain't black and white, but all they've got is rods to see it by.)
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
I'm still waiting for the promised "creatures of great size" that we were promised from fission power! Where's the dinosaurs? The giant ants? The huge scorpions? The 60' lady? The radioactive spiders that will give us super powers?
They need to drop fusion until they can give us what we were promised!! Vote NO to fusion until we are all glowing green, at the least!!! No more night lights for me!!!!!!!
Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
A fusion reactor cannot go boom
I suppose. Boom doesn't begin to describe a nova.
Know your pads. One time pad: good for cryptography. Two timing pad: where to take your mistress.
C'mon, this from the nice people who brought us Le Car? So it does work, then the Germans will march in and take it....
I wish I kew who you were, to "friend" you.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."