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Video iPod Oct 12?
Petey_Alchemist writes "Apple Insider is reporting that Apple will release a video iPod on October 12th, possibly in conjunction with the announcement of Apple's fourth quarter results.
From the article 'Although details are scarce, sources who claim to have seen the new iPod describe it as being similar to Apple's 60GB iPod photo player, but several millimeters thinner.
The device reportedly sports a smaller click-wheel akin to that of the iPod nano's, making way for a larger, higher-resolution color display that extends further down the face of the device.' "
and think secret is saying the exact opposite: no vIpod, it's powermac and powerbook updates.
in a week we'll all know!
Let's just hope this screen resists scratches much better than the nano. At least you do not have to look at the nano to enjoy listening to it...
Video is not portable in any successful manner. Cell phone providers can't get people interested; portable mini-LCD DVD players spend more time on family room shelves than in-use.
Music videos? Does MTV even play them anymore? Who watches videos?
My impression is that Apple is trying to make the market viable, yet the iPod's popularity rode on years of MP3 success from Napster-on. Who trades videos over P2P or buys video DVDs from Borders, Wal-Mart or Amazon?
Is it a workaround from the RIAA? Doubtful. Is it attempting to fill up the hole in a dwindling music video market? Unlikely. Is it a feature that will get a huge initial "ooh toy" interest that will never get used after the first few weeks?
I can't see why this is needed unless Apple foresees video Podcasts from independent video "bloggers" or DIY TV show sites, but even that is a stretch.
The iPod coasted on the coattails of a huge market without a user friendly portable player. Video iPod is trying to invent a market boom.
There's kind of a way to do that now...if you put a bunch of frames in and scroll...but, well...this would be a lot more convenient.
I noticed lately that Apple hasn't added many videos under the "Music Videos" section in iTunes. This does tend to look that they may start selling them instead of letting people stream them for free.
will it still be stuck with iTunes??
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Yes, I'd have to eat "10% of the purchase price in restocking fees", but I just got a 60 GB iPod two weeks ago.
The video side on the iPod side doesn't interest me near as much as the outport system - I'd love to be able to hook it to my TV, archive all of my DVD's to the computer (something I was planning on doing anyway, as I have young children who, though they mean well, tend to dirty the DVD's a bit, and already ruined one copy of Toy Story). Then I can just transfer movie to iPod, put iPod in other room, and have every movie at my fingertips, and my DVD's stay perfectly pristine.
Granted, this is still a rumor, and I'll take it with a grain of salt until I see product in the store - but if they do make the announcement, I'll still have another 11 days on the return policy (maybe I'll just have to "borrow" my wife's iPod Mini for a week or two - I think some groveling will be in order).
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Must be a new fiscal quarter.
Really, I wish they WOULD release one, just so we don't have to go through the same reasons for/against one again.
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just like google office?
"Slashdot, Speculation For Nerds." I am going to get a copyright on that.
Oh great, something else for the **AA to complain about.
Now lets see if I can compress X-Files episodes enough to fit on it, or better yet, just buy a PSP.
Sorry to reply to myself - it's 14 days, not 30. I'm already screwed (sigh).
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Would a larger screen on an iPod-sized device really make it any easier to watch video on it? No matter how you design things, it's a tiny tiny display.
Say you make it taller than it is wide and rotate it ninety degrees to view video. Then you're 2" tall, but still only about 2.7" wide, giving you a whopping 3.3" diagonal, up from 2.5" on the current iPod.
Video out support is good, but you're pushing that tiny hard drive pretty hard whether you're driving the iPod's screen or not. Apple would have to do some very impressive tricks with the battery life to make a video iPod practical.
From everything I've been reading, video support on the current iPod is just a firmware upgrade away. But I'm not convinced it's something users are going to be able to use well, even if it is just restricted to music videos.
Hopefully AppleInsider's barking up the wrong tree.
I've been waiting a long time for a PowerBook at G5 speeds. Maybe this will be an Intel PowerBook.
(Unlikely, since they said it would be Janruary before Intel Macs come out, but it would be nice.)
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All I can say is if this is true, it better play more video container and codec combinations then Quicktime Player does otherwise it will be terribly limited. Unlike a Mac running OS X, users would not be able to trivially add codecs or install programs like VLC or MPlayer on an iPod as they are forced to do on a Mac in order to watch most "modern" commonly used codecs and container formats.
I can see it now: "Is that porn in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"
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I watched 2 movies on my iPaq on a flight from LA to Paris. It was actually very nice. I have only 1 GB of storage, but that fits 2 divx movies perfectly.
I doubt that Apple will support divx, using H.264 instead. My question, who has compared these formats in a 500 MB size limit? Will Apple give you a utility to convert your DVDs? (probably not). Also, the question of battery life is important. An SD card doesn't spin inside. That hard drive on the iPod is going to burn a lot of battery power, and get hot to the touch.
The video iPod is inevitable. My questions are mainly to how we will fill them without an Apple Movie Store. I would expect the release of this iPod to coincide with the release of a movie store.
I mean.. If you have the latest generations of high-end electronic gadgets, you have like 2 devices with a camera, 3 with the ability to play videos and mp3s, and all of them except one, that is specialized for it, can do most things not very good, tends to be the same with the things they were build for. E.g. a cellphone that has a too large display for convenient phoning, or a mp3player that fills my pocket and has a low battery lifetime. And they're expensive as hell, too :( What we need is either cheap pocket pcs, or the good ole' times, when a cellphone was there for phoning, and a music player for listening music, instead of a 2megapixel camera and a colourful display for a barely good use.
... okay, it's just speculation on what will be announced, but hey, Cringe agrees with it!
http://vodkapundit.com/archives/008158.php
Quote: "Most observers are predicting a "video iPod" that will play back video on a hand-sized device. Not me. I'm predicting not a video iPod, but rather an "iFlicks" service (they may or may not use that name) enabled by a new Airport-Express-on-steroids wireless widget with a video out, as well as a snazzy Apple remote control (perhaps looking something like this) for iTunes and iFlicks.
All this will enable Mac G5 owners to download high-resolution (but not HD, not yet) movies from Apple to their hard drives and play them back on televisions in another part of the house..."
The video iPod won't really use a G5, will it?
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The rumours about a video-out enabled Airport base-station and video download capability in iTunes are more interesting - the ability to use the iTunes as a download centre for Video On Demand streamed to your TV strikes me as a potentially bigger market than for video on the go.
However, given that many of the movie studios are linked to the same record companies 'fighting' with Apple at the moment makes you wonder where the content would come from.
Think Secret are usually correct though.
Maybe they're finally launching 'Asteroid'
Just my opinion: Portable video devices are annoying. Trying to watch video on a small, low-res screen hurts my eyes and is just not worth the expense, trouble, or time. I have a Palm device with a pretty decently sized screen, on which I've loaded MPG videos (from a 1-gig SD card). It's just not fun quinting at a screen that small to try and enjoy a movie or other clip. Perhaps kids think PSP videos are cool, but I'm not sure how "grown ups" will take to it, and iPod video is just a direct competition to PSP.
if this doesn't have video out, I don't see the point. I don't want to watch any show or clip of a show on my ipod. I am sure there are a lot of other people who are the same.
but,
if it did have vdeo out of some sort, it would be really attractive. I would buy a show through apple (h264 would be awsome), load it onto an ipod and play it on a tv at my convience, hd output of some sort would be a plus.
Ok, on the picture of the Invite, it reads... "RSVP to mvp_media@apple.com". At least, that is what it looks like. Is it just me, or does someone need to learn to use photoshop a little better?...
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I just hope that it has RCA output on it so a USB dongle isn't necessary to take around every time you want to watch it on a TV. Too bad this is just going to be a huge opportunity for apple to market another 5000 accessories.
But does it run Google Office?
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Ever since IBM dumped Apple as a customer, the Mac crazies have been desperately claiming there would be no tanking of PPC Mac sales.
Yeah, right.
Here comes the pain. Jobs better pray the iPod/iTMS stuff stays hip enough to support the company. Or else he is going to be selling sugar water or Kool Aid for real.
Just a glimps of how bad the revenue tankage is going to be over the next year to two is the reports of Apple begging Intel to give them next year's chips ealier than the rest of the x86 OEMs. So much for the fantastic Intel 'Roadmap' that the remaining Mac loonies keep chirping about is going to save the Mac hardware.
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Wake me if it supports Divx and Xvid.
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This is my opinion. To make sure you don't steal it, it's covered by the DMCA.
It's been on the table for a while, and according to the company supplying the screens, are set to unroll sometime in early 2006.
I'll get a portable video player when it outputs to totally immersive glasses. I just hope I don't get mugged while being totally immersed. :)
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Sources are also reporting that the pending Power Mac revision will be the last Mac upgrade of the calendar year. Contrary to other reports, Apple's PowerBook line, last revised in February with only incremental upgrades, will likely not see an upgrade before Macworld Expo San Francisco in January 2006, at the earliest.
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I ask, why not? iPods are already sporting color screens, video-out capability, and hard drives bigger than some computers, it would be a snap to give them video playback. If the concept doesn't take off, big whoop: Apple's already got the technology in place to support it and support it well, and if it doesn't go anywhere it's no big loss. And there's content out there, though it definitely needs to be made more organized and accessible. But, hey, if anyone can make it happen it's Apple, considering how entrenched they are in the MP3 player market: the way podcasting picked up when iTMS and iTunes officially supported it, you would have thought the technology had just been invented. So yeah, makes sense to me.
Far be it for me to engage in Apple speculation, but... :-)
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If you look at AppleInsider's next article, with the actual invitation card, the background looks like a theater curtain. I think they're going to beat TiVo, etc. to the punch and introduce an online movie store. Burn to DVD, or stream using a new AirPort Express Base Station with video out. (Rumors about vPods have been rampant for months, perhaps years, but this AirPort Express Base Station w/video out rumor just popped out of nowhere a week before release. And who is really going to buy one of those to play music videos or short clips? Hmmm...)
Of course, there maybe a video iPod or somethig like it that you can download the movies to as well. IMHO, a video iPod that just plays music videos and short cliips is really not the kind of thing that's going to cause a bunch of people to rush out and buy one, and I think Jobs knows that. Well, one week to go...
Why would they want to cannibalize their nano sales by releasing a new type of ipod so soon? That isn't apple's style. I think what's more likely is that they will release powerbook and powermac updates as their last update before the intel macs (a double entendre of "One more thing...").
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1. I would have money (college student) 2. I would offer movies compressed and scaled down for a 3 inch screen. They could be the same size as an mp3. I would bite for something like that. Most movies can be watched in theater, the others can be with me at school while I'm bored between classes. I would even want movies for my iPod nano via an update. How many others are waiting for their iPod order to be 'processed'. I ordered mine 9/30/05, its been 4 business days thus far just for processing.
I can't imagine how people would want a device like this. However, maybe iTunes will end up having a Podcast-style interface for video. I can imagine setting preferences so that your computer will download free (maybe with commercials up front) news snippets, sports highlights, and movie trailers (music videos also come to mind, but I'd not be interested).
I'd love to be able to watch short minutes of video while commuting or waiting around. I'd love set iTunes to automatically download all the independent movie trailers, along with local showtimes, giving me a constantly up-to-date set of video clips with not effort to maintain them. I can't imagine wanting to watch a movie on such a small screen. Then again, none of the iPod innovations have made sense to me until I saw them in person (I thought the Mini was horrible, then I saw one and it made perfect sense. Same with the Nano, manufacturing issues aside).
What else would play well on a video iPod?
Everyone should remember that earlier Apple was scoffing at Microsoft's Portable Media Players, saying there was no market for portable devices that displayed pictures or played back video.
Obviously I'm not sure what Apple's going to announce but I don't think it's going to be a video iPod. Here's a thought. I think Apple (as I've said before in a previous post/story)is going to introduce a Tivo like devices that hooks into the network and allows you to rent/download movies. (something that you might envision if/when tivo and netflix get rolling together)
My suspicions are even stronger now that this "invite" has gone out. I think it's fairly obvious that a movie download service is a natural fit/extension for Apple given the success of ITMS. Yesterday or the day before I read a couple of articles where some big movie execs (or mpaa or somebody) were saying that they were going to enter the movie download market before the end of the year.
The invitation itself does leave a couple of clues (I think.) The first hint is "one more thing..." Steve's opening line before announcing his big plan. To me that means that Apple's going to announce something big. Not: We've said that video for the iPod is stupid, but "Oh yeah, one more thing... It's a video iPod! TAH DAH!!!! it's the greatest thing ever!" Of coarse, Steve Job's could invoke his RSF and make my claim a reality rather than a silly musing.
The next clue is the curtains in the invitation. To me those look like the old movie theater curtains they used to use (and maybe still use.) Dunno, but I can't imagine that they would be using theater curtains because somebody in the art department thought it would make a nifty background for "one more thing." But maybe.
Lastly, I don't believe that refreshed computers (desktops or laptops) would be enough of a reason to setup an invitation only press event. Well it could be G5 powerbooks, but I doubt that.
So my offical guess is a Apple branded DVR that hooks into a Apple movie service similar to ITMS.
Call me a Luddite, but if Flipbook support is not there, I'm not opening my wallet.
except to watch my credit cards flip back and forth...flipflipflipflipflipflipflipflipflip.....
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2 days before my birthday! Anyway, what about the Creative Zen Vision, a fine piece of machinery, none the less, which is more than what the iPod Video is expected to be. It's screen will be smaller than the Zen Vision, it won't have all the extras the Zen Vision has, i.e. built-in mic, personal organiser, etc. and it's going to be more expensive. I mean, sure, twice the storage, but 30 gigs is more than enough. Why bother paying more for something that isn't as good just because it's new?
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Obviously I'm not sure what Apple's going to announce but I don't think it's going to be a video iPod. Here's a thought. I think Apple (as I've said before in a previous post/story)is going to introduce a Tivo like devices that hooks into the network and allows you to rent/download movies. (something that you might envision if/when tivo and netflix get rolling together)
My suspicions are even stronger now that this "invite" has gone out. I think it's fairly obvious that a movie download service is a natural fit/extension for Apple given the success of ITMS. Yesterday or the day before I read a couple of articles where some big movie execs (or mpaa or somebody) were saying that they were going to enter the movie download market before the end of the year.
The invitation itself does leave a couple of clues (I think.) The first hint is "one more thing..." Steve's opening line before announcing his big plan. To me that means that Apple's going to announce something big. Not: We've said that video for the iPod is stupid, but "Oh yeah, one more thing... It's a video iPod! TAH DAH!!!! it's the greatest thing ever!" Of coarse, Steve Job's could invoke his RSF and make my spoof a reality rather than a silly musing.
The next clue is the curtains in the invitation. To me those look like the old movie theater curtains they used to use (and maybe still use.) Dunno, but I can't imagine that they would be using theater curtains because somebody in the art department thought it would make a nifty background for "one more thing." But maybe.
Lastly, I don't believe that refreshed computers (desktops or laptops) would be enough of a reason to setup an invitation only press event. Well it could be G5 powerbooks, but I doubt that.
So my offical guess is a Apple branded DVR that hooks into a Apple movie service similar to ITMS.
I can't help but hope: as long as they're adding in formats that the iPod will pay (.mov, probably .avi w/ DiVX & XViD) they'll also...
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Releases of Apple products are typically proceeded by a MASSIVE marketing campane (think of the Mini and more recently, the Nano), and if Apple were releasing a product a week today, we would know for sure. It would be on every blog, tech news site and on TV and even the printed press, for about a month before the actual release. This 'unofficial leak' announcement would have occured months ago. There's no way Apple could hide something this big.
Maybe it's going to be like Half-Life 2, someone could leak a microchip. Or given this is Slashdot, perhaps "October 12th, Apple to fart".
There are two parts to the iPod: the iPod itself, and iTunes. Before the iTunes Music Store and legit digital downloads ever existed, Apple was providing people with a quick, easy way to convert their already existing music collections to MP3, (or more accurately, AAC) and take their music with them.
If there is a viPod in the works, I expect Apple will include a program allowing people to *easily* encode, organize, transfer and share their video collections. Now they probably won't include DRM bypassing technology, and the probably *will* include a handy "Don't Steal Movies" disclaimer, but I for one would love an apple-easy way to encode my video library. And stream it from one computer on my network to another. And stream it over AirportExtremelyExtreme to my entertainment system. Eventually I'm sure they'll try to get the motion picture companies on board with an online store, but until then I'd be happy with iVids loaded on my G5 Mac for encoding and my media center PC for playback, and on my viPod for viewing on my train ride to work.
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Totally - give me my netflix on my iPod, with the ability to plug it in to any tv or computer monitor, and I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Apple will release a viPod shuffle which will support automagic shuffling of your videos and, to make smaller it easier to use, no screen.
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What does As Seen On TV think about this? :)
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I think it's been established that squinting at a movie for 2 hours on your 3" LCD screen that sucks your batteries dry after one movie is not an attractive thing for consumers. Now if you could buy and download movies from iTunes, load them to your ipod, and output them on your TV, that would be cool.
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of the viPod to the the emacsPod.
My thoughts...
... If it's an iPod that plays video, I expect we'll see an iPod accessory that provides video out or that would make use of tech like this:
... This is what I think SJ sees in his head when he says that the iPod screen isn't suited for video.. That or video-out to TV.. someway to watch other that on the small iPod screen...
If Apple were to make a tablet.. it would wait until the move to Intel... So unless Apple's pushing out Intel Hardware before major Developers (Microsoft and Adobe) have native product ready, which I think would be a mistake.. No Intel based tablet or Intel based laptop.. Not yet anyway...
5th gen iPod... Could be a modest revision better bat.+80GB drive.. or could be a iPod platform based video device (set-top) or a MacOS X based/mac mini based set-top DVR entertainment device..
It could be a Mac mini+ with 2 user serviceable mem slots, and upgradeable AGP graphics.. perhaps a G5?
Could be an addition to iLife/iTunes dedicated to the production of podcasts/videocasts...
It could be that Apple has purchased Apple Records and that all the Beatles music is now available on iTunes in either 128 bit aac for $0.99/track Apple lossless for $1.50/track.
As far as an iPod that would play video... Shrug.. I just don't see it being usable.. the LCD being on long periods/bat life would be a major issue I think.. Bat. life could be helped by adding a huge flash memory buffer... say 512MB-1GB? But... lets be honest.. the iPod screen is too small to watch tv/movies on as anything other than a novelty
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Something using similar tech, designed by Ive... video+sound.. cooler looking than anything on this site.. and if Apple buys the parts in sufficient bulk, affordable.. that would work with both a video iPod and any Mac
Shrug.
Just my $0.02
People have been playing videos on their ipods running linux for some time now.
Not to mention so many other companies have already released portable video players. Its nothing new people.
I wish they'd add simple data input methods to the iPod. Though it synchronizes with the Stickies (notes), iCal, and Address Books on my Mac, I can't add information to the iPod. That must happen on the Mac.
It would be nice if they added data input on these devices. Call it the iPDA or something ...
The Luddites were ahead of their time.
Young kid's DVDs take a lot of abuse, even if they're careful and especially if you have a DVD player in your vehicle. Backing them up with DVDShrink, http://www.dvdshrink.org/what.html, saves a lot of tearful nights when Dora or Peep is too scratched to play.
And if you've got young kids who like science, check out Peep and the Big Wide World, http://www.peepandthebigwideworld.com/.
Peep is great for Pre-K through early grade school, is NSF sponsered, and has enough dry humor to keep grown up geeks happy.
Of course, if a video iPod had enough capacity and TV output maybe I could use that for scratchless video storage.
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I wrote yesterday that processor upgrades are also very likely for this event for two reasons:
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I think the studios would be more inclined to go with a tried and true distribution system, ala iTunes, than just dabbling with however many companies are trying to get into this. Apple got the record labels to sign on beforehand and thus had a load of available titles when iTunes was released. I can see him doing the same thing with the studios. Plus, having Pixar as a company and rubbing elbows with the industry can't hurt either. It just seems that the studios would feel much safer knowing Apple has a way to distribute and has such a large following already. Why risk having a myriad of formats, pricing, distribution sources, etc?
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This has really got to be it. vPod is of limited use and probably doesn't warrant an unveiling at it's own event. The Airport Express is a great little unit and I have two, one for travel and one for home wifi hooked up to the stereo. But it is a clunky solution: I have to run upstairs to change my music, or buy one of those remote controls to plug into it.
What i have really been hankering for is a mac mini that is more suited to DVR and music playback (without having to buy all the usb hubs and elgato and digital audio out pieces). Honestly, I'd settle for just the music playback piece right now and hook it up to my plasma as the display. I've been looking at those Sonos devices which seem pretty sweet, but I figured their price is high enough that I'd give apple to the end of the year to get their product finished up. Video is the next logical leap, but I fear that will be a long road to reach the idealistic visions of all movies and shows immediately available, both for technical reason and because the movie studios are probably even more paranoid now that they've seen the music businesses travails.
TIVO's stock price has continued to slide, maybe it's time for apple to make a purchase! Or strategic investment...
On a side note, it's funny to see how this year's box office receipts in the US are down from last year and there's all this handwringing about how the movies pretty much just sucked, not because of pirating/downloaders. Seems like both the movie and music industries are going through a bit of a creative slump and their revenues are seeing a hit because of it. The RIAA targets illegal downloads (which is probably a small but actual part of the decline) while not addressing the more structural problems in the industry. The MPAA on the other hand is just at the beginning of getting their arms around digital distribution and all the issues of DRM that inevitably follow. Hopefully they'll be a bit more proactive on providing customers with an alternative!
... because they count the *free* distirbution of Spiderman 2 with nearly every PSP at launch as a "sale" (technically, it is a sale, but come on, it is not the same thing).
Add to that the number of people who will buy only one UMD ever for the "try it out" factor, and you will see that the numbers are not as good as it looks.
Portable video players have a bright future I think, but not based on a closed priorietary format that costs more than a DVD (who wants to buy a movie twice?).
So if this actually turns out to be real, what kind of DRM do you think Apple would use in it? I am assuming that they would want to offer an iTunes like experience and have the ability to purchase & download video. Can the Fairplay scheme work on video? [I have no idea how this whole DRM thing works... I leave that stuff up to DVD Jon :-) ]
Any opinions?
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If a video iPod is released it would need to plug in to a television like the iPod Photo can in order for it to be worth it wouldn't you think? I am having a hard time believing that a device so small could produce a good quality image for play on a television. Especially with how much Apple was pushing hi-def when Tiger came out.
It would be cool if it was a new ipod photo with built in card readers, for CF, SD, xD, and possibly others.
And have the transfer times be fast, also have it preview any file size picture and zoom capabilities and all that other good stuff. If they did that, then i would buy a 60 gig right now.
Since when can you only listen to Apple's proprietary format on an iPod? I have over 60 gigs of MP3s on my hard drive from my CD collection, and they all play great on my iPod. One click, and you convert CDs to open MP3 instead of closed AAC. What's so hard about that?
True, you can only play ITMS songs on an iPod, but nobody makes you buy songs from ITMS...
Anybody who is anybody knows that this is just a likely as a x86 based mac...
Oh yeah. x86 macs (not to mention essentially ditching the push towards 64-bit), affordable macs, and flash based iPods (I swear I remember Steve Jobs saying all flash based players were crap).
It's been a weird year. At this point not much would really surprise me any more.
From a source at a cellphone carrier whose retail locations are licensed to sell the iPod Nano, I get this news:
Supply of the 20G iPod Photo is drying up, and Apple is asking for inventory numbers, daily, broken down by retail location, for this company.
This is similar, I'm told, to what happened with the iPod Mini just before the Nano release.
My source's guess is that the 20G iPod Photo will get replaced with a 40G model, and possibly we'll see a new high-end Nano (6 or 8G?), with some price adjustments across the board.
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Yes... since an iPod DOES play MP3s. Don't confuse it with iTunes which only lets you download in the AAS format. The fact that you didn't know this shows your bias against Apple.
And has anyone noticed how .Mac account holders were pleasantly awarded with more storage space now? Hmmmm...I wonder why? Possibly to hold video files? Hmmm...
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maybe this is just a bump to make the iPod more of a platform independent portable digital wallet? if this is what is coming wednesday, then they are making a bigger deal out of it so i would assume something else to make it make sense. is it possible Apple has a partnership with, say, blockbuster so you take in an iPod and load a movie or two... and that movie expires unless you "renew it" online. in theory that DRM exists now. this just popped in my head, and not some master scheme i have pondered for more than a minute. it seems plausible though. i guess even at the store it would take a lil while to upload content that large?
what kind of hardware upgrades would the iPod take to display and feed out video? can they technically do it now? i personally do not know enough about the guts of the iPod, but i know other people have done similar things with little devices. iPods have an AV out cable now to display photos on a TV or whatever. if it is a minor upgrade, it may be like iPod Photos. it's a feature that is there, but you do not have to use it. off the top of my head people may use them for: music videos, sharing iMovies, keynote presentations (easier to hook up an iPod than carry a laptop?), video podcasts.
the streaming content to phones here is not taking off, but it is relatively new. it is not super supported and is pretty expensive for what you get IIRC. look how long it took text messaging to blow up in the united states. granted, a lot of that was the blockage between carriers, and a lot of unsupported phones out there.
then again, people here complain that the cost of songs should be 99 cents or less, yet look what people pay for crappy polyphonic ring tones because they do not know how to upload them manually. they even pay that much for chopped up MP3 files. $2 or $3 last i remember looking.
It has always bugged the hell out of me why you can only listen to their proprietary format with the IPod.
What format would that be? What they call "AAC" is just mpeg-4...
Oh, you mean proprietary encryption format! Who the hell cares what encryption format they use? Only very trusting people keep their music in a DRM-hobbled format.
There are tons of other media players out there that accept open standards (at least more open).
As far as I can tell, pretty much no media players accept more than a couple of open formats. Most of them actually discourage you from using open formats, forcing you to use Microsoft's or Sony's proprietary formats if you want decent compression and quality... I hope you're not referring to WMA or something like that as "open", are you?
The iPod should RECORD video from a DV camera!! those tiny drives just need to sustain the datarate, my 1st gen, is too small, but it could record video thru the powerbook.
Apple keeps misunderstanding a significant number of requests a video ipod as a player. Many of us in the video world have been asking to RECORD video for years now, and just get filed under "video ipod" in their requests database.
It could change the video camera market, where the iPod becomes the new tape format. (or similar sized firewire drives) There is already a mess of various devices that filled in, but they are not standard, and the camera vendors are going to expensive incompatible hard drive setups.
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Part of me wants to still say "no way" to the video iPod idea. See, everyone things its a foregone conclusion, but really, there isnt that big of a market... you have to think the way Apple does. They look for a product with HUGE demand, that no one is doing right. Competition leaves a bad taste in Apple's mouth- If people ARE doing it right, they wont bother- that's why they nixed the QuickTake, LaserWriter and Newton, and that's why there's no Apple phone or ink jet. And although the geeks on Slashdot and Engadget may be whining for Ogg Vorbis and a video iPod, I dont think, and I dont think that Apple thinks that millions of people will be lining up to pay $500 for a video iPod, because you know that's what it'll cost to do it right, and you know Apple will only do it if they can do it right.
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On the other hand... The technology is there. NO, the current iPod DOESNT have the power to play video, despite what you may have heard- it has the throughput but not the cache. Or maybe it was the other way around. Anyway, the screen isnt high enough res or fast enough on the refresh. Also, with everyone and their momma going HD, a VidPod would be widescreen. Also, the Hitachi drives are hitting 80GB and are even thinner than the 60GB Toshibas APple uses now.
Then, we have the invite itself: the red curtains? Movie theater. And the event is held IN a theater, not a convention center, as they usually are.
Now, I wouldn't be surprised to see a new version of iTunes that supports video.. or should I say, pushes video support to the forefront. iTunes has supported video since ver. 4.5. Oh, yeah, you didn't know that? Yup. While you have that shocked look on your face, it also can catalogue PDFs. Yeah, seriously.
I would like to see them go farther- I'd like to see the iTunes music store start selling full length movies, not just music videos. 'Problem is, the MPAA have their heads just about as far up their asses as the RIAA does. So first off, Apple would not be ready to sell movies from a major label without extensive negotiations, and we would know about it. And with everyone in the RIAA hemming and hawing for more cheddar, I'd be surprised if they went for it at all.. or would I? I suppose the MPAA could be looking to one-up the RIAA and take the high road, but I seriously doubt it. The only company I can see biting is Sony- they are in the midst of heavy restructuring, they need something big to get things going, and they've been pretty buddy-buddy with Apple for the past year. AND they recently bought MGMs uber-massive movie library.
And how cool would it be if you could upload your own iMoves, and show them off, even SELL them along site the biggies? Like a combination of Atom Films and iTunes music store. Show your movies off for free, get feedback, drive traffic to your site, or even sell them for a buck, which goes right into your iTunes music store account, whick you would use to buy more music, which means more money for the RIAA.
Hell, go all the way, Apple. Incorporate a tuner and DVR into your new Macs, like you should have YEARS ago. HP may not be all that, but they're embarassing you with the Media PC. It ain't pretty, but its something more than you got. Arent the PowerBooks and PowerMacs about overdue for an upgrade??
But.. no, I just can't buy it. If and when the MPAA ponies up, it'll be to sell stripped-down movies in low-res that expire, or explode or something if you don't watch them in 15 minutes. And Apple wouldn't do that. I also don't think the RIAA would be bitching so much, if they were about to start ramping up the distribution (selling) of music videos. They would be saying they want more money, trating the vids like added content we just HAVE to have, rather than as what they are- commercials.
Plus, Apple just revved iTunes to 5.0 like a couple weeks ago, with the nano. Would they be overhauling it again that quick? There's always the chance 5.0 already has the juice, and it just needs a little
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Apple is doing the quarterly report on Tuesday October 11th, the day before the media event. macminute.com had that in their news today. i am guessing that is why the release was not on the usual tuesday? the earnings reports are always done after the market closes, so at 1600 or 1700 eastern time. makes sense, if the quarter was good. if apple announces anything tuesday morning, then earnings tuesday evening, one would be lost in the shuffle. this implies the earnings are at least ok, if not pretty good. AAPL stock is at an all time high these days, so i assume things are financially solid.
If you add up all the rumors (without the wishful thinking) you end up with a MacMini Media Center... Then again Ed Zander a Motorola may have crossed a line with all his bitching about his Roker phone being upstaged by the iPodNano so Steves going to push out the Apple Phone as revenge.
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Several years ago, I purchased an iRiver flash based player for when I exercise. They support most standards out. Including ogg. Is this not a consideration. Can you play music files ripped from you CD collection on an iPod?
It has always bugged the hell out of me why you can only listen to their proprietary format with the IPod.
You're misinformed. It also plays Mpeg1-audio3 (mp3), FLAAC, WAV, mpeg4-audio1 (mp4), etc. as well as DRMed mp4.
Also, you are tied to ITunes as well....correct?
Nope. It is just a hard drive that indexes content oddly (with some advantages). Plenty of other software supports it.
In addition, the consumer is not forced to use a particular retailer.
The only way the ipod restricts your choice of retailer is in that it does not support .wmv or .ogg (and a few other oddballs). So long as you buy from a retailer that offers a format it supports it treats the music as a first class citizen. Also, before being available for Windows, I had Windows using friends come over and borrow my mac and iTunes to rip their CD collections since doing it on their PCs was too hard. Most music played on iPods I'd guess is from ripped CDs (I might mention iTunes does not add DRM to your rips by default like WMP does).
Please someone explain this apparent cult mentality.
This is not quite right, it is not a cult thing, more of a social status thing. A lot of geeks like iPods because they work really well. Go down to an electronics retailer and try playing with some of their demo models. Try simulating real use by operating them one handed while not looking at the screen. The iPod is way easier to use. As for non-geeks, iPods are "cool" and if you don't have one you'll never be part of the popular crowd, or something. Also they are really easy to learn to use, have easy to use software that comes with them and beats most other music jukebox software by a mile, and has an easy to use built in store. For geeks, again, the DRM music from that store has easy, legal ways to remove it and a pretty good selection compared to other stores. There is no mystery, the combination of the iPod, iTunes, and the iTMS is something a lot of different people like and enjoy using one or more components of.
Everyone here is saying that mobile devices are useless for video due to the length of an average movie but they forget that the average tv show is roughly 22 minutes without commercial interruption.
So how's this...ITMS starts to sell this week's episode of 'insert popular tv show name here' for $4. Well, 13 episodes later they've made $52 without the production costs of DVD. Consumers are happy because they're getting what they want with no advertising, when they want it, and they can play it on their PC, ipod, or TV (via yet to be announced device with 802.11 remote for controlling playback).
Oh and by the way, want the latest episode of Will & Grace to be sitting there for you when you get back? Just subscribe to the podcast for $34.95 / season and it'll be sitting there for you when you get home.
Seems like a great idea to me.
... so I can watch all the episodes of Firefly in the order that FOX intended!
That is pretty presumtuous. I happen to love OSX and many Apple products. Please tell me, who am I showing bias towards or is it just against Apple. BTW, I am about to purchase a Mac Mini for my wife. This must make me a hypocrite.
the posters who complain about the usefulness of such devices don't have children. i recently traveled with children to SF. i had ripped some kids videos (They Might Be Giant's "Here come the giants") to my treo 650. now you can argue about how illegal that is, but it kept my kids occupied. now, would you like a screaming 2 year old sitting behind your plane seat, or one watching video? there is definitely a place for this device.
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"...you don't know Apple too well. They will always come out with an update of your product less than a month after you purchased it"
Isn't invention great. And you fail to mention the real reason it makes so many people feeling a little jealous... it's the fact that Apple has been doing this for many years. They will upgrade their line when they feel it's right, while keeping the price of the relative product the same. They've been doing this on the computer side for a very long time.
Seeing an upgrade to your product (upgrades are good, trust me, my original 5 GB iPod wouldn't cut it today, sorry) that is exactly the same price as the one you just bought a month ago is what get's ya. But, Apple knows the balance tips towards keeping the prices constantly in certain ranges while not being afraid of investigating upgrades due to new technology. We as consumers tend to like that much more than don't like the jealousy thing... you picked the time to buy, and the purchase should have been an accepted agreement. Meaning, it was worth it to you to pay what you did for that device at that time, so go with that, or you will never own an xxxxxx.
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Seriously, why would someone buy one of these? Its not like you are going to be watching video while working out at the gym, jogging, or walking down the street. Thats why the old portable TV Watchman was a failure, and the portable cassette Walkman was a success. You can multitask while listening to your iPod - not while watching a little video screen.
You probably buy your computer based on megahertz speeds, right?
"Utility" encompasses more than the amount of storage in a device. It can also, in the case of something like the nano, include the device's being small enough to carry with you more easily. Or it might include a color screen for pictures (or TEEENY videos).
My big brother's 1980 stereo could do a lot of stuff that my iPod can't. It had a turntable and a cassette deck, and would let me record from the radio, which it also had inside. It had RCA in jacks that I could use with a CD player. I'm pretty sure I can get a stereo of that vintage for well under the price of a nano at a garage sale. The difference is not pure vanity.
(Now, say the same thing about people buying full-sized SUVs instead of minivans, and I can give you a real good case on that one... There the difference appears to be pure shallow vanity for the vast majority of buyers.)
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I don't think thats whats going to happen now though. Thinksecret's info rings much truer to me. Deffinetely powermac/powerbook updates. Why would you release two new iPods right before christmas? They'll let the Take this christmas and the video early next year or next christmas.
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This is a good explanation. Thank you. This makes much more sense. There is, however, a conversion when loading mp3 to an iPod? I knew that there was a very close relationship between iTunes and iPod. It concerned me that their end game is to tie you to their retail service much the same way that MS has done by slightly altering their implementations of standards.
These are very good points. I think that I get it now. Thanks for the reply.
It's really easy
a) I want something that actually looks decent. Most MP3 player companies wouldn't know industrial design if it bit them.
b) It ties in nicely with a music program that rips, gives me a music store. And before somebody whines about all the OSS tools that give you the same: They look like shit. They are a hassle to install. It takes fiddling to make them work.
And that's it in a nutshell - it just works, and it looks good.
The iPod nano and shuffle are cheaper and smaller than the other iPods. That's utility in and of itself. It's mere coincidence that they are more stylish, too.
"It has always bugged the hell out of me why you can only listen to their proprietary format with the IPod."
Um... AIFF? WAV? MP3? Ever hear of those? An iPod will play them just fine. (Except that the shuffle doesn't support AIFF.)
H.264 is totally different. It's MPEG-4 part 10. It's about as big a leap over MPEG-4 part 2 as MPEG-4 was over MPEG-2.
Considering mplayer and other open source apps support H.264, there is *no* reason for anyone to be using DivX or Xvid any more. You will get *better* quality *and* smaller file sizes by using H.264.
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That's only because there are NO games for it. People are buying UMD to justy their retarded buy. Where are the games for my portable GAME machine?
Nah, there's no conversion. It's just a straight file copy.
Yes you can (compressed as .wav, .mp3, .aac and possibly a few more).
Doesn't anyone remember the press release Apple made a few weeks ago stating that they were not planning on a video iPod in the near future because every other manufacturer was adding 'useless' features and they wanted to wait to do it 'right'?
I am very nearsighted and travel a lot. I dont have a TV set at home just a few laptops (at least four laptops, sometimes five). I dont like watching DVDs directly, whenever I buy a DVD I rip it under linux with dvdrip+transcode. I store the transcoded files in .ogm format and I use a resolutions of 640x480,640x352, 640x272 of 640x256 and a video bitrate of 900kbps, which is plenty for watching on a laptop, I dont need any higher resolutions. I have 3 USB2/fw combo boxes with 100GB laptop drives inside + one USB2/FW 120GB poket drive. I can cary my whole collection with me, over 800 movies and the total weight is about 3 pounds. 800 dvds are MUCH heavier,it is impossible to carry them with you. I dont need a dedicated video player, I use an ultralight laptop from sharp (MM20,1GHZ,efficeon, 10.4 inch screen) with Suse Linux 9.3.
There is, however, a conversion when loading mp3 to an iPod?
Nope, not really. iPods play mp3 files with the built in hardware, but the filesystem on the iPod gives it a weird hash for a name and organizes it in a weird file structure. Perhaps you were recalling something about the Sony music players that spent several hours converting mp3's to their proprietary format when it loaded them onto the player.
It concerned me that their end game is to tie you to their retail service much the same way that MS has done by slightly altering their implementations of standards.
My opinion given the prices/profits they have posted for the iTMS is that their goal is twofold, first they sell music as an incentive for people to buy their devices. Second, they sell music to prevent MS from dominating the space with their proprietary format and making macs second class citizens for music, which would hurt their core market.
Thanks for the reply.
You're quite welcome.
maybe it's the end of something, perhaps the last line of G4books, or single-core G5s.
You just choose the format you want if you don't like the default, stick your CD into your computer and it automagically puts the songs into iTunes. Then you plug your iPod into your computer and it automagically puts the songs onto your iPod. I'm not really sure how it could be more clear or easy.
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When will they make a Sirrus/XM satalite Ipod....i mean what could be better ;) At that point it would be the most unstoppable expensive radio in the world right ;) The satalite radio addition would give the best resource for finding new music through the "radio"
Sony is counting "sold" as "disks sitting on retailer's shelf". Not "consumers stupidly paid more for a UMD than a DVD".
I seem to recall that The Steve was making a lot of noise back in January about 2005 being the year of HD and that there were some products upcoming to capitalize on this... and there was a Sony exec on hand to add to the mystery and intrigue if I recall correctly.
The truth is that the upcoming announcement is both the video iPod and wireless digital hub concept, which will allow the video iPod to wirelessly connect to newly announced G5 Powerbooks and dual-core, dual-G5 PowerMacs -- AND Apple's new iTVHD, a 60 inch flat-screen, wifi, bluetooth, wireless-etc television, made by Sony (and the 'little brother,' a 42 inch iTVHD mini, of course). Oh -- and the Airport Express will have video outputs as well for supporting non-Apple HD TV's. And because this is going to be such a huge, earth shattering announcement, Apple had to come up with the Intel announcement earlier this year to distract from the attention of this upcoming announcement too.
Nobody knows what's coming other than The Steve and a few other people under NDA's, but we'll all get to be sucked into Steve's karma beam next Wednesday to find out!
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Then at least try to know something about a product before being critical of it, especially in a public forum.
FLAAC is not a codec. it is an application that converts FLAC (not supported on the iPod) to AAC (the iPod's proprietary format)
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They will all be wrong. It will be a itunes subscription service.
So, yes, you don't get it. At all. Even the basic facts.
you fool. I was not being critical. I was asking a bunch of ipod users why it is so popular despite what I considered downfalls. Are you always this suspicious and critical of people? Maybe you should consider professional help.
...with whole house video streaming via a revised Airport Express. You just plug in an Express next to any TV where you want the video. It'll have analog and HD video outputs.
Can you play music files ripped from you CD collection on an iPod?
Heh. Most of the music files I play on my iPod Shuffle are ripped from my CD collection or recorded from tapes. Don't you remember Apple's "Rip-Mix-Burn" ad campaign?
Understated styling, minimal reliance on soon to be obsolete removable solid state media, compact physical size, stable future proof OS, slowly evolving price / performance ratio equals the perfect home media hub, and we all know that people simply do not and cannot watch movies on a portable device, except for news and sports clips - something that can be done on the latest 3G phones. Chances are, Apple are prepping or will soon release an iApp that not only provides a media centre interface for all ones own and broadcast content, but integrated with an iTunes type service for home movie downloading and viewing. The movie making apps like Final Cut and iMovie will of course allow movies to be created on the power hardware (such as Powerbooks and G5 Powermac systems) and in a fantastic piece of irony for Apple, viewed on their Mac Mini based media hub - or iBooks and Powerbooks too, which are FAR MORE PRACTICAL for viewing movies! Any future iPod is far more likely to morph into an 'only Apple can do it this way' smart phone / remote control device for ones life and the Mac Mini. Remember you read it here first!
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Okay, this is complete speculation but I think it'll be a 6 and 8 gig iPod nano. Then they will announce a 200 song iTunes RAZR Version 2 and get Moto all pissed off again.
I like how Slashdot converts:
Reliable sources believe the iPod could be introduced as early as next week
to:
Apple Insider is reporting that Apple will release a video iPod on October 12th
Apple is shifting more and more towards consumer electronics and entertainment, which is worrying. It's not where the company's roots and core competencies are. Of course, it's possible to change the market or expand into others, but it's not easy as many companies discovered already. So far they were able to pull that off with iPods, however the Nano and this Motorola phone are being called "disappointing" by market analysts. With the PowerBook and PowerMac lines updates long overdue but nowhere in sight I think they try to swim across the holiday shopping season on entertainment alone. And you know what? As much as I hate it - it might work.
The problem here is that the downfalls you say exist... don't exist. Kind of a fundamental problem with your argument. Just a smidge. Just a touch. :-)
You're right, I was thinking of AIFF, but the acronym part of my brain had overloaded.
A video iPod would be cool, but I don't know that I'd buy one. On the other hand, if Apple comes out with a photo iPod with a Keynote presentation player (not just a slide show, but effects and all) and VGA output for a projector, I'll definitely buy one, and so will every other academic, and probably a lot of business types as well.
...or you could just buy an iRiver right now.
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Finally, a mobile device for the true geek. Play music, view photos and edit your .conf files on the run.
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it was more about making .Mac not quite such a ripoff.
One more thing... or four more things? - A video streaming version Airport Express. - a new iTunes-like video management tool and store - a digital wireless projector (854x480) to go with both of the above - a video iPod? perhaps...
But you can count on Apple to be able to do it right. Its in their blood.
That's right, the new iProduct is coming soon! Post about it in every forum you see! Come up with fake screenshots and post them too! Compare it with existing products, even though you have little to no information! Remember that with Apple products: rampant, fruitless speculation is easy and fun!
Apple is announcing it's *fourth* quarter results? That's quite amazing, seeing as how fiscal third quarters ended recently and fourth has barely begun. Must be nice knowing what will happen so far in advance.
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Either way, iPodLinux is now able to not only watch movies on an iPod, but now you can play Doom! (due to a lack of buttons, you apparently arent able to change weapons....)
So save a few bucks. Install iPodLinux to watch movies on that iPod photo you already have (dunno if its out for nano yet)</i>
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I was listening to BBC 6music before and they said that the launch will take place at the BBC television centre. Could this mean that the Beeb will be selling content on the Apple store sometime soon? Or maybe it's just that Apple hope so.
Either way, iPodLinux is now able to not only watch movies on an iPod, but now you can play Doom! (due to a lack of buttons, you apparently arent able to change weapons....)
So save a few bucks. Install iPodLinux to watch movies on that iPod photo you already have (dunno if its out for nano yet)
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You just can't stop.
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use a Crown Royal bag to put your Nano in?
I'll go way out on a limb here and say it's not simply a video iPod but the device that Robert Cringely talked about earlier this year or late last year: a Mac tablet device, only small like the Nokia Linux one with built in video (quicktime) and sketching and hand written note taking capabilities, plus the ability to watch movies streamed over the air with a new Airport Express that streams video wirlessly. Not only that but the device will act as a remote control for Macs and iTunes.
I suppose it won't happen, but god I would love to finally be able to use a tablet device that isn't big and ungainly and didn't run Windows but a neat OS like OSX.
They are going to commercialive the umptysquat iPod!!!!
A two inch diagonal screen just won't cut it with most people So how to make it work? They make "ear buds" so why not "eye buds"? Ok bad idea. But "iGlasses" would work. A little projector makes a head up display. It appears to the viewer as a large screen about a meter away. It's bad enough now, but just wait 'till you start seeing people driving on the freeways with these "iGlasses". I imagine the porn industry woud find a use for this too.
This is news that is may be news? It can be anything..... Product or Service? Its just a guessing game at this point...
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Will it support Ogg?
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Use it once and it is rumored to self destruct within hours of purchase.
My rumors about the G5, which were pretty much confirmed got denied but this crap got accepted? Bah, Slashdot editors... Anyway, I wrote up a short blurb on my website on this: www.BinaryIdiot.com Aparently, someone has posted pictures of this so called iPod on engadget and they were proven to be a photochop. All links at my website!
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When the iPod came out, I thought Apple would follow with a more powerful model (which it did with the iPod photo) and name it Power Pod, in order to follow the same naming protocol as for the Macintosh; that's not of course what happened. Now, I'm wondering if Apple would do a Mac Nano to follow the naming scheme of the iPod line on the Mac line. And what would a Mac Nano be? An OSX PDA?
Just crazy thoughts from the bowels of my consciousness...
I can imagine a time in the not-to-distant future when I will be walking down the street without any kind of entertainment or communication devices in tow and these kids will be pointing and staring at me for not having a "rich multimedia experience" or whatever. The idea of not having multiple electronic devices attached to my every orifice and appendage will be inconceivable to them. One of them might just concur that I was using my time thinking of stuff like people did in the "old days". Yeah, I can do long division with a pencil and paper too! Just what *is* this perceived need for entertainment and communication every moment of your waking life? Whatever happened to solitude and reflection and pondering over things? No time for that now!
"The iPod should RECORD video from a DV camera!! those tiny drives just need to sustain the datarate, my 1st gen, is too small, but it could record video thru the powerbook.
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Apple keeps misunderstanding a significant number of requests a video ipod as a player. Many of us in the video world have been asking to RECORD video for years now, and just get filed under "video ipod" in their requests database.
It could change the video camera market, where the iPod becomes the new tape format. (or similar sized firewire drives) There is already a mess of various devices that filled in, but they are not standard, and the camera vendors are going to expensive incompatible hard drive setups."
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I dream of the day I can plug a drive containing my footage for the day into a PC, edit directly from it in Final Cut or whatever, export a self contained file ready for encoding and erase the drive ready for the next day.
Currently I have to import everything in real-time from my miniDV tape before I can start doing anything. That's real time lost.
The huge Nomad jukebox fit fine in your pocket? I hate to think of what *your* fashion sense is...
"... and the Dual PowerMac 970MP, 2.5 GHz. Redesigned from the ground up, perfect for our professional users, we like to call it Quadra-Redefined. 4 x 2.5 GHz. A perfect 10."
... introducing the video iPod and AirPort vExtreme."
(applause)
"Oh, and one more thing
(Red curtains open. Platform emerges from the floor, spotlighting a small video iPod. HD Pixar movie begins streaming to an Apple 40-inch LCD display, then to a 50-inch flat screen TV standing nearby, and then onto the theater screen behind the curtain. Movies redefined.)
(jaws drop)
(applause)
Even my shirts have pockets. I have jackets made with large pockets, due to me being a time traveller and needing to hold things in them. I have pants with large pockets in them that can hold CD Players, and large tools. I learned my fashion sense from Doctor Who and other time travellers.
#1 the iPod was not the first MP3 player.
#2 The iPod was not the first MP3 player with a hard drive.
#3 The iPod was not the first MP3 player to fit in a pocket. Other MP3 players fit in pockets, but didn't always use microdrives.
#4 The iPod was not the first MP3 player with a HD to fit in a pocket (I have large pockets as part of my good fashion sense) and large and extra-large pockets count in that definition. Not teeny tiny pockets that match the manhood of some male iPod users.
#5 iTunes was not the first MP3 music store on the Internet.
#6 Adding a 1.8" HD to a MP3 player is not innovative. Not any more than adding a 1.8" HD to a laptop or desktop computer. Say if I add a 1.6" HD to a MP3 player, and called it the iRion, would you consider that to be innovative?
#7 There are less expensive, and better MP3 players than the iPod out there.
#8 There are already hand held video players out on the market. The iPod Video will be a Johnny-come-lately.
#9 There are already video stores on the Internet.
#10 Apple, the iPod, the Macintosh, and Steve Jobs are all out of fashion. The new fashion styles are Linux organizations, open source MP3 players, Linux PCs, and Linus Torvalds. "Finn is in!" Big pockets are in too.
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Nope, not really. iPods play mp3 files with the built in hardware, but the filesystem on the iPod gives it a weird hash for a name and organizes it in a weird file structure. Perhaps you were recalling something about the Sony music players that spent several hours converting mp3's to their proprietary format when it loaded them onto the player.
Is that really the filesystem or just a way of pissing me off when I try to use my iPod to share music?
Not to mention that my normal files I put on there don't have strange or cryptic names.
It could also be used to save space in the database. My iTunes database on my hard drive is 8MB.. I bet if all the file names were half as long, it'd be smaller.
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The technology is avilable to do this, you would need: 1. At least a 4" screen (could be done), but many portable dvd players only have 3.5" screens. 2. Use Flash memory (remeber someone, I think it was Motorola, just came out with something like a 300 GB flash card and uses even less enrgy than SD cards) 3. Use a Lithium Polymer battery, long life, lasts long on each charge and can be made into any shpae you choose, meaning it could be custom molded to use all empty space inside the ipod providing even larger batteries and is extremely lightweight. Bottom line this is easily doable, now you would need a wway to make existing DVD's and Movies from Camcorders and such to convert to a format that would work, as well as an Apple Movie store where you could download video, but there's no reason those things can't be done, although I doubt apple would give a way to break copy protection on comercial DVDs.
I see. Turns out the guy complaining about iPod fanboys is actually a fanboy himself.
Explains everything.
I used to be an Apple Zealot, but now "Finn is in" and I am a Linux Zealot. :)
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Assuming they would like to trademark their impending product, I looked up the trademarks Apple recently applied for (uspto.gov). Apple applied for a trademark on "Numbers" on June 8th, 2005.
AAC is not proprietary to the iPod.n dard.html
http://www.vialicensing.com/products/mpeg4aac/sta
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Apparently Microsoft and Tivo beat Apple to the hand-held video device market, and online store bit.
Sorry Steve, too little, too late.
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Dude, if you're caught with those on your iPod you will get in deeeeeep shit.