Ask Slashdot: Most Underappreciated Sci-Fi Writer?

mvdwege writes "In the thread on the most depressing sci-fi, there were hundreds of posts but merely four mentions of John Brunner, dystopian writer par excellence. Now, given the normally U.S. libertarian bent of the Slashdot audience, it is understandable that an outright British Socialist writer like Brunner would get short shrift, but it got me thinking: what Sci-fi writers do you know that are, in your opinion, vastly underappreciated?"

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Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

She gave thousands of low-life sociopaths legitimacy through having a book to justify their beliefs.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

You misspelled overappreciated.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

as opposed to thousands of lowlife sociopaths who murdered millions in for their faith in karl marx?

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

Steady, folks. We're one step away from Godwin here.

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[buybuydandavis]

Insightful?

I see Slashdot has officially joined the roving bands of nit wits who show tribe solidarity by pooh poohing Rand.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

I had the best shit today. Solid, well-rounded, nice color, and long like you wouldn't believe. Felt great going out, felt even better when it finally plopped into the bowl. I was almost sad to flush it down. I'm not too proud to admit that I took a photo of it. I even thought about having a cigarette after, but I've quit and I don't want to fall off that wagon.

Thank-you for your time and consideration.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Jane Q. Public]

That's because they've never actually read Rand. So they think when she wrote about "selfishness" she really meant "greed".

Rand may have been a bit over the top at times, and her books were stuffy and difficult, but she did a pretty good job of illustrating how real greed and powermongering can be disguised as "helping your fellow man".

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[Lynchenstein]

+1 :-)

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[Concerned Onlooker]

I don't know. I've read a good deal of what she wrote and was rabidly into her for quite some time. Then I came to realize that basically she was rather one dimensional and her model of the world is not very realistic. Yes, of course humans essentially perform better when motivated by self-interest, but human beings are so much more than little drones of capitalism. We're very complex and our motivations vary from day to day. For someone who actually looks at the complexity of the world Rand starts to look a little simple.

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[dbIII]

It appears to me that the only thing Rand had going for her is that she was a local writer and thus appeals to some in the USA more than other things written elsewhere on the same topics.
For example, I was less politically and socially naive than what she has written by the time I was 16, even though I was an introverted geek that mostly read Asimov, textbooks, technical manuals and newspapers.

Re:Ayn Rand

[retchdog]

yeah, but being over-the-top about it was the only original part of her work, and definitely the source of her popularity, so what would you expect?

Re:Ayn Rand

[Jane Q. Public]

That's all great, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making.

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[DuckDodgers]

Ayn Rand used strawman fallacy arguments, ad hominem attacks, and false dilemmas to make greed in capitalism look heroic and power-mongering by religions and socialist groups to be criminal. In reality, there are vicious criminals in capitalism as well as socialism and religion - people don't change, weapons just evolve.

But her real con was convincing people that when someone else is suffering, you have no moral obligation to help them out. It's the same bullshit as reincarnation spun a different way. If an Objectivist tries to help the poor, the sick, the injured, the uneducated, etc... he's betraying capitalism and preventing the free trade of the markets from leading the most moral people to success. So while it's not technically evil for him to do it, he has no obligation. The person who believes in reincarnation has no need to help others, because any pain they have in this life will be offset by a happier future life. Either way, it's a fancy justification for saying, "I got lucky in this life, everyone else can go fuck themselves."

I don't care who you are, your success is more luck than anything. Maybe you were born to great parents. Maybe you had a wonderful teacher or career mentor in your chosen field. Maybe you got lucky with your social networking skills (in the non-Facebook sense) and your career skyrocketed that way. Maybe you stumbled across a book or website or meditation practice that taught you the self-discipline to succeed. Most of all, you didn't die of communicable diseases, of cancer, in a car accident. No matter how much work you did to reach your current success, luck is more than 50% of the picture. The Objectivist fantasy that you owe society and the rest of humanity nothing in return is an absurdity.

Society needs to allow hard work to be rewarded, or it will collapse - that's why pure socialism will never work. But this idea that everyone with a hard life somehow earned their pain and does not deserve help from the lucky is nonsense.

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[Count Fenring]

You claim none of the people who hate Rand have read her. Concerned Onlooker says "I've read her, liked her for a time, then realized she wasn't really that good."

Seems relevant to me. Here's another one. I've read Anthem, and a representative sample of Atlas Shrugged and the Fountainhead. I've also read some of her personal correspondence and a fair amount about her life.

Ayn Rand is a terrible writer, and, while she explicitly used the word selfishness, and made a case (at length) for it as a social value, her "selfishness," translated into the real world, maps perfectly onto "greed" as commonly constructed. The only reason it doesn't look like greed in her novels is that she very, very aggressively manipulates the reader and tries to manage their perception of events at every step. No event or motivation in Rand's books is ever presented to be interpreted in context of the reader's understanding of their own, real world - it's all very explicitly forced into Rand's perspective, with sometimes PAGES of explicit pre-packaged interpretation demanding that you read this character's rape of this other character as the highest form of love because it is purely self-involved which is the highest possible value because only the self is valuable because altruism and other-directed emotion not based on cold value judgements are horrible because...

And it goes on like this. It's not literature, it's not even really a utopian novel - it's propaganda. And, particularly speaking of the Fountainhead, not well written propaganda - I mean, that giant-ass speech in the courtroom? Come ON. Watch the black and white Fountainhead movie some time. Watch that motherf*&king speech, read out by an actual human being. It's intolerable - it's as far from naturalistic, comfortable speech as exists in the English language.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Count Fenring]

Mod parent correct.

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[Jane Q. Public]

"You claim none of the people who hate Rand have read her."

No, I didn't. In response to GP I claimed "the roving band of nitwits" had not read her.

"I've read her, liked her for a time, then realized she wasn't really that good."

Still irrelevant, because I wasn't commenting about that. My comments, were, specifically:

(A) The "roving band of nitwits" think when she wrote about "selfishness" she really meant "greed". My point being that Rand used a meaning for "selfish" that does not occur in the dictionary.

And (B) that she made at least one good point, no matter how bad her writing was.

Re:Ayn Rand

[buybuydandavis]

I don't know. I've read a good deal of what she wrote and was rabidly into her for quite some time.

Were you a "low-life sociopath" at the time? Otherwise, I don't see the relevance to the comments above.

Yes, of course humans essentially perform better when motivated by self-interest...

So she was basically correct on the desirability and morality of egoism and a market economy?

I'm not an Objectivist, and I disagree with Rand in fundamental ways. But I've generally found Objectivists and their sympathizers a better class of people, and certainly preferable to the know nothing nit wits who feel the need to shriek their ignorant disapproval of Rand at every opportunity.

Re:Ayn Rand

[mcgrew]

I wish I had mod points today, you'd get one.

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[Magius_AR]

But this idea that everyone with a hard life somehow earned their pain and does not deserve help from the lucky is nonsense.

The word "deserve" is where your argument fails. No one deserves a damn thing except life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If my neighbor hits the lottery, he doesn't suddenly owe me something extra simply because he was luckier than I was. If he's generous and kind enough to do something for the less fortunate, huzzah for him. But I'll be damned if I'm going to give the government permission free reign to his good fortune, to redistribute it as they see fit. The problem with your ilk is that you just see rich people as evil, money-hoarding pricks. You don't know them as people, or track their charitable givings, or anything. You don't know if they were handed their wealth from mommy and daddy or if they busted their ass to climb out of poverty up to the top. Regardless of how they got it, they don't deserve it, or they have "more than enough", or they "owe everybody something". And the exact amount they "owe society" is never enough -- it's always a nebulous concept of "they should give more" that is never actually sated (until, I'm assuming, they're just like you)

Re:Ayn Rand

[careysub]

It needs to have its own law named. "Communism!" (or "Socialism!", often no distinction is made) is the Godwin's Law of the right.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Count Fenring]

The roving band of nitwits seems clearly constructed above as a generic term for people who dislike Rand, but alright.

Rand didn't actually invent a new definition of selfishness - she tried to positively connote the existing one as part of her "enlightened self-interest." But she's clearly advocating for greed as a motivating factor, when viewed through any outside lens.

As far as (B), I don't think she did. Her villains were caricatures of attitudes that don't actually exist - their motivations and construction is so far removed from reality as to be useless to model the genuine possibility of abuse in the guise of altruism.

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[Jane Q. Public]

"But she's clearly advocating for greed as a motivating factor, when viewed through any outside lens."

A big part of the Objectivist philosophy is to never take or accept something one has not earned via one's own efforts. So "greed" cannot possibly be involved, if you accept that the common use of the word implies exploitation of others (as in "corporate greed"). But I admit it is somewhat dependent on your definition. That's what I mean when I say it.

"Her villains were caricatures of attitudes..."

Yes, definitely. She exaggerated to get her point across. So? I disagree very strongly that it did not represent real actions by real people. Remember, her whole philosophy was built around things she saw while growing up in the Soviet Union. Power-grabbing under the guise of "helping" the worker.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

A big part of the Objectivist philosophy is to never take or accept something one has not earned via one's own efforts.

Standing on that as an absolute principle inevitably leads to insanity like that of Murray Rothbard, an influential Objectivist/Libertarian. He seriously argued that parents (even ones capable of providing) should be allowed to abandon a child to starve, because apparently self-sufficiency is the only important principle in all things.

Which is why sane people cannot consider themselves Objectivists. No man is an island, not even adults. But I don't expect you to understand this because judging by your postings you are waaaaay down the looneytarian rabbit hole.

Yes, definitely. She exaggerated to get her point across. So? I disagree very strongly that it did not represent real actions by real people. Remember, her whole philosophy was built around things she saw while growing up in the Soviet Union. Power-grabbing under the guise of "helping" the worker.

A rhetorical question for you: What was her socioeconomic class, and how might that have influenced her perception of events? Especially given that Rand was not an adult at the time, and was probably told simplistic stories about the motivations of the people disrupting her family's privileged life?

Human memory does not function like a tape recorder. Bias affects it, both going in and coming out. When what comes out of a person's memory is ridiculously one-dimensional along ideological lines, there's a pretty good chance it's not a useful historical guide.

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

You said yourself, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". That first freedom requires access to food, shelter, and medical care, and somebody has to pay for it.

Pick a successful, moral capitalist. For the sake of argument, I'll call him, say, John Galt. He was probably educated in a public school. Some of the people he worked with, worked for, or conducted business with were educated in public schools. He communicates over networks managed by the government. He conducts commerce over road and rail that are funded by the government. He can only do business deals because there is a court system for adjudicating contracts, and that court system is funded by the government. The air he breathes and the water he drinks are free of poisons because there is a government agency dedicated to managing air and water quality. He probably uses computers and the internet in some aspect of his business, and those were creations of government research programs and the government continues to fund research in many areas. He is protected from harm by police, fire departments, a prosecution system, and a prison system all managed by the government.

That government is run by people we elect and funded by us through our taxes. No heroic capitalist, even John Galt, can be successful without it. So yes, the people who benefited the most from this giant interwoven network of public institutions that enables them to make their fortune do deserve to pay the most to support the people less likely and to make sure the system still works for the next round of motivated entrepreneurs.

Now on the other hand, I genuinely understand your last set of points. It's what originally drew me to Objectivism - I was frustrated with the idea that no matter how much I did for others, it was never enough. Where do you draw the line? 10% of income to charity? Why not 11%? Why not 12%? Why not 100%? I don't know the answer, and I hate that there is no easy, logical rule to apply that lets you know exactly when you are doing enough charity and can rest easy. But Ayn Rand's solution, "Fuck you all, I am never morally obligated to do a damn thing for anyone else at any time for any reason, I only help others when I feel like it." is no solution, it's the ethical equivalent of throwing a temper tantrum and running to your room the first time Mom asks you to wash some of your own laundry. I don't have the answer, and it's an important question. But her answer, like the answer from those that believe in reincarnation, is just an excuse to ignore the humanity in others and the social ties that bind us all together.

Re:Ayn Rand

[khallow]

I don't care who you are, your success is more luck than anything.

Now, given all that above, why would one want to be an Ayn Rand villain? Yet we see above, the straw made real.

Just keep in mind that by calling success "luck", you're engaging in a similar con, this time against the successful. I guess it's easy to forget that one can make one's own luck.

Society needs to allow hard work to be rewarded, or it will collapse - that's why pure socialism will never work. But this idea that everyone with a hard life somehow earned their pain and does not deserve help from the lucky is nonsense.

And if there wasn't a way provided to work one's way out of such a rat's nest, then you'd be right.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

You know nothing of Ayn Rand's work

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[Anonymous Coward]

I don't defend that her techniques are misaligned ( in that you are correct ).

However...
>someone else is suffering, you have no moral obligation to help them out.
is not a con, you are not, people create much of their own conditions... You can not have an "Intervention" for every single human vice; Greed, Avarice, Envy, Sloth,etc..

And if you actually did you would be just as guilty as the opposite end of the spectrum like perhaps Ayn Rand... (Kettle meet Pot). Even more so.

But surely you MUST be trolling the The Fountainhead was ALL about LUCK and Hard-work and how pure Socialism based mentality is a failure.

How about unappreciated writers.

Steven Baxter; Deconstructing the Hivemind endgoal and enforcing the will of society on the individual.

Re:Ayn Rand

[randyleepublic]

Duck, you do a good job here, but you don't go far enough. My sig points to the work of the greatest economist who has yet practiced the science. He points out that we all benefit from our inherited cultural framework, and that we all deserve, just by way of being human, a share in this.

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

No, you are frankly blind to the reality. You can't make your own luck if you're dead. You can't make your own luck if you're crippled by injury or disease. And the chances that you'll have the knowledge and determination required to make your own luck with that knowledge and determination arising out of nothing are near zero. Almost every great successful businessman or scientist had at least one teacher, parent, friend, colleague, coach, or supervisor that instilled in them the value of hard work and ambition - so the great luck in their life was getting that mentor. Every successful person has their success more from luck than anything else.

There is not always a way to work out of a rat's nest. If you're too sick to work, "working your way out" is not possible. If you have to care for sick family members or friends, or children ( say for example you have an idiot brother that impregnated a woman and then abandoned the child - he shirked his responsibility to care for the kid, and now your chances at making a good career for yourself are shot because you are obligated to care for the family member ). If you live in Detroit, or a rural area, the job opportunities may be very poor and you lack the resources to move. Try moving a 500 miles in search of work and finding a landlord that will rent you an apartment before you found a job. And the job market today is hard and it's getting harder - there are far fewer good opportunities than there are motivated, educated individuals.

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

Really? I read Atlas Shrugged, Capitalism: An Unknown Ideal, For the New Intellectual, and The Virtue of Selfishness. I think that qualifies me to make a comment.

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

I haven't read The Fountainhead, I read three of her non-fiction books and Atlas Shrugged. But as I wrote further up in the discussion ( http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40941475 ), there's more than luck involved - the success of capitalists is built upon a functioning, safe society - roads, police, educated populace, military protection, safe drinking water, safe breathable air, courts, prisons, etc... and that success is also built with the use of research funded by the government (for example computers and the internet both started as government-funded projects). All of that is expensive, and it needs to be funded somehow - why not make the people who benefit the most from this infrastructure pay the most back to support it?

I realize pure socialism can't work. If you take everything from every person and try to redistribute it, you destroy the incentive to work and you turn the persons in charge of redistribution into dictators. But it is completely reasonable to demand that people who benefit from a functioning society help pay to support it.

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

I'll take a look at the book, thanks. Something else I've been looking at is "Participatory Economics". For all I know that's derived from the document in your link, I haven't read through it yet.

In any event, I think history has demonstrated that unfettered socialism leads to things like the Stalinist purges of millions of Russians. History has also demonstrated that unfettered capitalism leads to things like debt slavery and oligarchy - the people with the most money buy their way into the government, and then put the fetters back onto the market so that it works in their favor - that's the direction the US has been heading in for the past 30 years.

Re:Ayn Rand

[khallow]

Again, it's pretty sad to see an Ayn Rand villain in the real world. Almost everyone has had the same luck, but only a few use it to become successful enough that they can directly employ other people.

There is not always a way to work out of a rat's nest. If you're too sick to work, "working your way out" is not possible. If you have to care for sick family members or friends, or children ( say for example you have an idiot brother that impregnated a woman and then abandoned the child - he shirked his responsibility to care for the kid, and now your chances at making a good career for yourself are shot because you are obligated to care for the family member ).

Well, the Ayn Rand solution is that if that really is such a problem, then you and like-minded people can fix it with your own money.

If you live in Detroit, or a rural area, the job opportunities may be very poor and you lack the resources to move. Try moving a 500 miles in search of work and finding a landlord that will rent you an apartment before you found a job.

I have. You'll need to move in with someone who already has an apartment for a few weeks at least.

And the job market today is hard and it's getting harder - there are far fewer good opportunities than there are motivated, educated individuals.

I have solutions to that little problem: a) drop minimum wage or eliminate it completely, b) drop the tax benefit for employee health care, c) cut social security taxes (and benefits).

I prefer elimination of Social Security altogether because that makes US workers about 15% cheaper just on its own. Another nine cuts like that makes US labor roughly comparable to Chinese labor.

Re:Ayn Rand

[khallow]

Speaking of making luck, let us also keep in mind that the last three presidents of the US could have been blocked long before they were ever contenders by charges of illegal drug possession. They got lucky in that they didn't get caught. The libertarian solution to that reverse lottery is simply to make drug possession and manufacture legal. Suddenly, we have lots of successful people who otherwise would have been caught and harmed by the War on Drugs.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

Again, it's pretty sad to see an Ayn Rand villain in the real world.

How is it sad? It's wonderful! The existence of a Rand villain in the real world would justify all those beliefs of Rand!

What's actually sad is there are almost no Rand heroes in real life (I'd say none, cuz I can't even name one), not even amongst the most devoted proponents of Rand.

If a Rand hero actually exists in real life, what's actually sad is they so far have been failing.

I mean, take this:

Well, the Ayn Rand solution is that if that really is such a problem, then you and like-minded people can fix it with your own money.

Ok, that's the Ayn Rand solution. Now how many Rand followers are actually applying the Ayn Rand solution? Who's putting their own money (and life, and freedom) on the line to fix the problems of the US?

More importantly, amongst those who are practicing what they preach (if any), how many are succeeding? Where's that wonderful free society that's supposed to happen after the old society died off at the end of Atlas Shrugged? Hasn't happened.

The general trend for the last 100 years or so, according to Randites and Libertarians, has been more government and less freedom. Queue comparison to the Libertarian pet example 19th century US.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

Too bad libertarianism (I thought this was about Rand, Rand's beliefs and Libertarianism share some similarities but they aren't the same) covers more than just the issue of drugs.

If you're implying everything else about libertarianism is right (and the GP wrong), you're arguing a strawman (one of the things GP accused Rand of doing in her writing, remember?)

Mind you, if you're speaking of making luck, then whether libertarian solutions get implemented or not is also a matter of luck

If you can't repeal the War on Drugs, well nobody else is obligated to help you. Your last 3 presidents are not obligated to. None of your congressmen are obligated to.

Let's kick it up a notch: nobody is even obligated to uphold the Constitution. If you live in a time where it's upheld, you're lucky. If not, too bad.

Re:Ayn Rand

[khallow]

If you're implying everything else about libertarianism is right (and the GP wrong), you're arguing a strawman (one of the things GP accused Rand of doing in her writing, remember?)

Well, that's not happening, ok? I just gave an example.

Mind you, if you're speaking of making luck, then whether libertarian solutions get implemented or not is also a matter of luck

At this point, we're removed any value from the word, "luck".

If you can't repeal the War on Drugs, well nobody else is obligated to help you. Your last 3 presidents are not obligated to. None of your congressmen are obligated to.

They are obligated to follow and support the US Constitution.

Let's kick it up a notch: nobody is even obligated to uphold the Constitution. If you live in a time where it's upheld, you're lucky. If not, too bad.

I already mentioned a counterexample above. Now, if you're claiming that one is not obligated to follow one's obligations, then that's another word that has lost any meaning.

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

Well, the Ayn Rand solution is that if that really is such a problem, then you and like-minded people can fix it with your own money.
But she sees no moral obligation to help others. I disagree with that. "Charity is optional" is a philosophy only popular with the people who would not be dead for lack of charity, and who are naive enough to believe they could never require it.

I have. You'll need to move in with someone who already has an apartment for a few weeks at least.
And if you don't know anyone who will let you move in? Then what?

I have solutions to that little problem: a) drop minimum wage or eliminate it completely, b) drop the tax benefit for employee health care, c) cut social security taxes (and benefits).

1. Try to survive on minimum wage, without relying upon a social support network (because many people don't have one). You will fail. 2. the right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" means that citizens should have health care through some means or another. 3. The people collecting Social Security already paid tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars into it, you can't take it away from them now.

A race to the bottom against the Chinese is not the answer. Allowing industrial companies to poison drinking water instead of disposing of chemicals properly will make production cheaper. Removing worker safety regulations will make production cheaper. Removing labor laws related to 40 hour work weeks and child labor will make production cheaper. You really want that world?

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

I've read most of it, but I have had problems understanding parts of it. I'm still working on it.

Since mankind has been struggling with devising a proper economics system since the dawn of time, it will take a lot of thought before I give this my unreserved approval. It doesn't help that the guy attributes some of the ideas he opposes to a Jewish conspiracy. I'll examine the rest of his arguments on their own merits, but even if I do agree with him it's going to be damn difficult to convince anyone else to take him seriously on those grounds.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, that's not happening, ok? I just gave an example.

Example of what? What does the libertarian solution to drugs have to do with GP's points about Rand? Or luck?

At this point, we're removed any value from the word, "luck".

No we haven't. It's the same luck.

GP said some people are not lucky enough to get food, health care, etc.

You tell GP many people are not lucky enough to not get caught by War on Drugs

Well, now I'm telling you that many libertarians are not lucky enough to live in a society without the War on Drugs and other regulations.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

If the people without food or health care can do something about their own problems on their own, then you can do something about the War on Drugs on your own.

They are obligated to follow and support the US Constitution.

No they are not. There is nothing that forces an individual to commit to any so called obligation. You can walk out on contracts, renege on agreements, break promises, and piss all over the Constitution. People have done it in the past, they're doing it now, they'll do it in the future.

I already mentioned a counterexample above.

It wasn't a counterexample.

Now, if you're claiming that one is not obligated to follow one's obligations, then that's another word that has lost any meaning.

No, I'm saying there's no obligation to begin with.

Re:Ayn Rand

[mooingyak]

The world is of course never as black and white as anyone makes it seem.

I'm largely pro-capitalist. I buy into what I thought was Rand's core statement, namely that a governing system that requires large numbers of people to act against their own self-interest is either doomed to fail (best case) or aggregate power into the hands of those who are good at pretending to act on behalf of everyone else.

That said, I'm not completely opposed to charity, even the forced charity via welfare and similar that are the usual complaints of libertarians.

However, two scenarios:

I saw a woman not too long ago while I was waiting for a train. She had a long white skirt on, the back of which was stained brown in what was obviously fecal matter. There were other aspects of her appearance and scent to reinforce this conclusion. She behaved in a way that implied she thought this was perfectly normal and acceptable. I don't think there's much that could be done for her now, but I think that somewhere in the past, say 5-10 years ago she might have been in a place to reach her. I'm all for the idea of publicly funding programs that could prevent the people today that may end up like her (implementation details are certainly an issue, but let's assume for the sake of argument that an effective and viable approach exists).

vs.

I know someone (don't want to get too specific on who) who is incapable of supporting himself and his daughter on his salary, despite that I was able to support myself, my wife, and (at the time) two kids on less salary in the past. He simply makes piss poor financial decisions -- his mother does the same thing. I have a much bigger problem publicly funding his bailout.

The trouble is telling apart at a large scale those who got dealt a shit hand versus those who either dig their own grave or are disinclined to further themselves.

Re:Ayn Rand

[mrsquid0]

Actually, the AC is right that Ayn Rand's novels are science fiction. She wrote about things like metals with near-magical properties, invisible battleships, force fields, colonies of übermenschen trying to take over the Earth -- classic science fiction material. While Ayn Rand's works are well known they are not often recognized for what they really are, works of science fiction.

Re:Ayn Rand

[khallow]

No they are not. There is nothing that forces an individual to commit to any so called obligation. You can walk out on contracts, renege on agreements, break promises, and piss all over the Constitution. People have done it in the past, they're doing it now, they'll do it in the future. Again, what is the point of using the word, "obligation" if you ignore what it means. An obligation is not just something that you're supposed to do, but also consequences for not doing the thing you're supposed to do. For example, jail time is a possible consequence of "pissing" on the Constitution. Or not getting reelected. Or getting shot. Contracts have all sorts of fallout, if you chose to break them.

If the people without food or health care can do something about their own problems on their own, then you can do something about the War on Drugs on your own.

I can, but it's a lot more and a lot harder work than merely putting beans on the table. For you're trying to reverse a terrible flaw of society, not merely feed yourself.

Re:Ayn Rand

[khallow]

And if you don't know anyone who will let you move in? Then what?

Then you find someone. I didn't say it'd be zero effort.

1. Try to survive on minimum wage, without relying upon a social support network (because many people don't have one). You will fail.

I take it you've never tried. I've done it a few times.

2. the right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" means that citizens should have health care through some means or another.

This is very stupid for a couple of reasons. First, it's a quote from the Declaration of Independence which has no legal relevance. Second, health care is not "life". One could by the same boneheaded logical flaw demand immortality as a "right". They aren't going to get it no matter how it is legally interpreted. I'm not surprised to find someone claiming an entitlement as a right.

Why is government obligated to give health care when you can do it yourself? Why is government obligated to give social security when you can do it yourself? Why is government obligated to provide national security? Because you can't do it yourself. See where I'm going with this?

Also, you might want to cross over with Mr. A.C. who seems to think that government has no obligation to do anything, including enforce rights.

3. The people collecting Social Security already paid tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars into it, you can't take it away from them now.

Why not? It's not their money any more. And we currently have bigger needs than worrying whether grannie eats catfood. We also need to keep in mind that they voted for the current insolvent program while the people who are currently paying for it didn't. If they had taken even rudimentary precautions way back when, the program would be far less vulnerable to being ended.

A race to the bottom against the Chinese is not the answer.

It's a better answer than the current slow slitting of the throat. You need to come up with a better answer in order to claim that a propose solution is not a good solution.

Allowing industrial companies to poison drinking water instead of disposing of chemicals properly will make production cheaper. Removing worker safety regulations will make production cheaper. Removing labor laws related to 40 hour work weeks and child labor will make production cheaper. You really want that world?

Actually, I do. All those regulations were passed with a single thought to the consequences. I think we can have reasonable environmental protection, modest worker safety regulation, and some of the rest without a lot of government regulation being required. The US had a good run, and now due to burdensome regulation and the subsequent blurring of corporate/government boundaries, we're starting to see the consequences of trying to have and eat our cake.

That means lower wages and lower standards of living. I merely recognize this fact. An obvious solution to cut back what makes US labor so expensive.

Re:Ayn Rand

[khallow]

Ok, that's the Ayn Rand solution. Now how many Rand followers are actually applying the Ayn Rand solution? Who's putting their own money (and life, and freedom) on the line to fix the problems of the US?

I'd say most people. Anyone who donates to charity, for example. The Objectivist view, such as I know of it, would also include anyone who works and whose output is voluntarily accepted.

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

You survived by minimum wage completely on your own? Really? I'd like the details. I couldn't pay my car insurance and fuel for my commute on minimum wage. I couldn't pay rent and utilities on a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage in my area. In most of the country it is not enough to provide food, shelter, and transport to work - let alone medical coverage.

I realize that the Declaration of Independence has no specific legal impact. But the point is that this country secures freedoms for all of its citizens. It's a social contract, and starting about a hundred years ago with Teddy Roosevelt and gradually increasing with time is the public, national sense that our attitude towards among us that need help should be something other than "too bad".

We don't have bigger needs than worrying whether grannie eats cat food. If I have to choose between putting taxes on wealthy Americans - at 1980s levels or 1960s levels versus letting people starve, I'll vote for the tax and pay it without hesitation. Telling the people who paid into the program that we decided not to support them is immoral. It's also going to cause an awful lot of civil unrest - and maybe you like the idea of trying to get the national guard to gun down angry grandparents, but I don't.

In World War 2 the top tax brackets in the US was over 80%. The people of the nation felt their survival was threatened, and everyone suffered for it - most especially the troops killed and wounded, but everyone here paid a price. We spent the last decade at war, and that whole time taxes were near a hundred year low and were not increased. We're facing a debt crisis and economic crisis we built because in the last decade our transition from a democracy to an oligarchy shifted into high gear and somehow half the population has been conned into thinking social costs shouldn't be funded by taxes.

The changes you advocate are absurd. If you really believe in them, emigrate to China and go work in one of their sweat shops. Your "survival of the fittest" plans are convenient when you're certain you won't be one of the ones fed to the wolves.

Re:Ayn Rand

[khallow]

You survived by minimum wage completely on your own? Really? I'd like the details. I couldn't pay my car insurance and fuel for my commute on minimum wage.

Minimum wage was $4.25 per hour in the early 90s and I was making roughly $5.00 per hour at the time ($5500 per year as a graduate student plus some part time work during the summer). I did have to borrow $4000 during the second year, but that was in large part because I didn't try to work more hours.

A second case was back in 2009. I started work as a seasonal worker at Yellowstone National Park. Starting pay was $8.00 per hour for five months of work (which was just above minimum wage at the time). I'm currently up to $10 to $12.5 per hour for about 10 months of work and saving most of my pretax wages.

That's one of the things to remember about minimum wage. Just because you start there doesn't mean you stay there. Given how much regulation there is to hiring someone, it's quite reasonable to allow employers to pay them less. They're taking a big chance on new workers and frankly, minimum wage is too high for many starter jobs.

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

In the PA coal region, where I grew up and most of my family still resides, the job opportunities are nil. So I have relatives with good work histories looking for work and getting offered minimum wage, part time, swing shifts - so gross pay is maybe $150 per week and their schedule prevents them from taking a second minimum wage job elsewhere. And promotion options are poor, because if you demand an extra $10 per week from your employer they can replace you with someone else that's desperate to get off unemployment.

The type of economy you're describing already exists, and it's fueled by illegal aliens - some tiny percentage of them are taking legal jobs from US citizens, but most of them are used as day laborers paid subsistence wages. They live three or five or fifteen in single person apartments. If they get hurt, they are dumped from the labor force and left to beg for help. And if someone tries to demand safer treatment or more pay, they are replaced by someone else more desperate. That's your ideal economy?

The United States had a period when capitalism was unfettered, it was the 19th century. The robber barons bought their local governments and police agencies, and employees were worked to death or put into perpetual debt slavery, or both. That's not the goal.

Re:Ayn Rand

[khallow]

The type of economy you're describing already exists, and it's fueled by illegal aliens - some tiny percentage of them are taking legal jobs from US citizens, but most of them are used as day laborers paid subsistence wages. They live three or five or fifteen in single person apartments. If they get hurt, they are dumped from the labor force and left to beg for help. And if someone tries to demand safer treatment or more pay, they are replaced by someone else more desperate. That's your ideal economy?

That's the economy we have to work with. And keep in mind the effort we go through to keep the cost of living up. Prices of homes, health care, and education are greatly inflated, food is highly subsidized, taxes go to pointless transfers of wealth, and so on.

Also keep in mind that if you aren't valuable enough to be paid minimum wage, then you aren't paid at all. A salary of zero seems less useful to me than a salary that is "subsidence".

The United States had a period when capitalism was unfettered, it was the 19th century. The robber barons bought their local governments and police agencies, and employees were worked to death or put into perpetual debt slavery, or both. That's not the goal.

That's also the period where the US transitioned from a backwards former colony to a world class industrial and scientific power. That tells me that there's more to the story.

Re:Ayn Rand

[MagusSlurpy]

Hey, hey, hey, don't get all SS on us!

Re:Ayn Rand

[Magius_AR]

He was probably educated in a public school. Some of the people he worked with, worked for, or conducted business with were educated in public schools. He communicates over networks managed by the government. He conducts commerce over road and rail that are funded by the government. He can only do business deals because there is a court system for adjudicating contracts, and that court system is funded by the government. The air he breathes and the water he drinks are free of poisons because there is a government agency dedicated to managing air and water quality. He probably uses computers and the internet in some aspect of his business, and those were creations of government research programs and the government continues to fund research in many areas. He is protected from harm by police, fire departments, a prosecution system, and a prison system all managed by the government.

And he has already paid for all those things through taxes, same as you . So why does he deserve to get taxed AGAIN merely because he was successful through the use of those resources? We all had access to public resources. Some used them more effectively or more successfully than others. Why is that a ticket to more taxation? Sounds like a punishment to me.

But Ayn Rand's solution, "Fuck you all, I am never morally obligated to do a damn thing for anyone else at any time for any reason, I only help others when I feel like it." is no solution

I agree, the middle ground is a far better solution. The problem is that reform is required (particularly of social security and medicare), and no one but the Republicans is willing to talk about it. Paul Ryan is practically getting torn to shreds because he actually pitched a real plan that at least attempts to reform Medicare (however misguided). No one else is even willing to propose a counter solution. And those programs (particularly Medicare), by all estimated projections, are unsustainable. And that's my main issue -- we already have a series of gigantic expensive social programs that are supposed to be doing all these wonderful charitable things everyone is clamoring for. Except they don't work. And they're costing us lots of money. So before we dump a bunch of new cash into the sinkhole that is government, how about we fix the current social safety nets first?

Re:Ayn Rand

[DuckDodgers]

My ancestors worked the coal mines before the labor strikes - I grew up learning history about thousands of people killed due to unsafe working conditions, armed thugs sitting right inside the voting both to make sure everyone voted for the candidates personally selected by the local robber baron, and lives as indentured servants in perpetual debt to the company store. The ancient Egyptians made some of their greatest accomplishments on the backs of thousands of slaves - that doesn't mean their economic system should be modeled or admired.

Eliminating minimum wage and giving the person the choice between starving to death slowly on $3 per hour instead of starving to death rapidly on $0 per hour is not ethical and cannot be permitted - using supply and demand to exploit starving people for cheap labor is wrong, period.

As I've said many times before, and I will repeat now - the economy functioned fine 40 years ago when the wealthiest Americans paid twice as much tax as they do today. When we were at war in 1944 the highest tax bracket was over 80% - contrast that to the 15% long term capital gains tax on the wealthiest people today even while we were at war. This isn't a fair economy or an opportunity for people to follow the American Dream, it's an oligarchy: people who already have tons of wealth can accumulate additional wealth far faster than anyone earning a salary (instead of benefitting from long term investments) can gain wealth.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

I dont think people really give AR a fair go.

Granted she wasnt a great writer.
    And she was a litter disturbed (understatement there)

However she proposed some ideas - and to make her point she took them a mite too far - (and its reasonable to presume this wasnt a literary device - I dont know her well enough to have a considered opinion on this) HOWEVER that doesnt mean there isnt some interesting stuff there....
      the idea of the smart people striking is interesting.
      AND the flight from reason (we believe this because we want to not because of science or fact theme that runs through Atlas shrugged) - well - it appears to those of us outside the USA - that there are similarities with some of the far religious right nowadays.
(Ironically - she thought it would be the far left doing it but its turned out to be the right now - but hey these things swing back and forth).
I also think that the recognition that there is a transaction involved in every human interaction is actually valuable.
    I do a lot of volunteering - i get no $$ from it - BUT I do get something I value from that transaction and I understand exactly what I get and what that value is to me.
    I believe in helping the poor and the sick - I believe in that for several reasons (not the least because thats why God destroyed Sodom, and Jesus says very clearly - those who do NOT help the poor and the sick will spend eternity in the lake of fire) Some of the reasons I do it is because I believe society is better when we do that - and SO Im better off. A healthier and happier society is a much better place to live (as is a more egalitarian society).
      I also do it because when people are really poor - they commit crime and I dont want crime - or to need to pay for a large police force OR bigger insurance policies.... . The point being I know exactly WHY I do it and what value I get from it.
  Also whilst I believe in helping the poor and the sick - I believe they should help themselves if and where they can. A man has more self respect if he can find decent reasonable work (and he lives in a country with a decent minimum wage) - so that can be a preferable method of helping someone. I think for someone just to expect a handout - for NOTHING back now or every - is - as AR says - not a win for society. Sometimes its cheaper to do it because somepeople will commit crimes rather than work (and where i live we calculate that % and factor that in - but in general we try to train people or find them work - when they can - and if they are sick - we make them better - and get them back into the workforce. IF however they are terminally ill - we look after them - because - thats still better for society - because their friends and family will cope better when they are looked better and so overall society is better off.

We understand these transactions.... and AR pointed that out to me. You dont have to have the same value set she did - and you dont have to believe everything she says. I dont - but I think she is of some little use and worth a read once.

Re:Ayn Rand

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, your success in this life is certainly 50% or more due to luck. You help who you want for your own reasons. The greed in capilatlsm is the fear of death or demise and the ego binds us to the decisions we make about how we live our lives.

Ursula K. LeGuin

[Anonymous Coward]

Because I can.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Jeremiah Cornelius]

Noah Ward.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Johann Lau]

same reason:

[..]

These aliens, these made-up worlds
of ours, are ways of making
mysteries mundane.
We see beauty and think
it truth.
Man's measure grips the world,
chokes meaning from it.

But you can't escape cages by studying their bars.
Laws prison licence
in slow spaces, snagged time.
So the best of science or of crafty fictive lies
presses us into true darkness,
away from the lamppost.
Beware of the snaky swoop of integrals.
Math's mad arabesques can conceal far
more than they reveal.
It's strangeness we must seek, not
more urns so Greek,
with their Pythagorean certainties.
We must live in the jagged outlands,
knowing truth may not fit snugly,
can be ugly,
and all our own.

-- Greggory Benford, "Bleak Velocities"

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[brantondaveperson]

+1 poetry

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[dr.g]

Huh. I actually liked that.

Must be at a certain level of appreciation, certainly below the sophisticated understanding of modern MFAs, but I liked that.

Anyway, the most under-appreciated sci-fi author, bar none, is Jack Vance. If any deem this underappreciation deserved because he didn't seem to undertake the addressing of Big Themes, said "any" merely show they just. don't. get it.

Also, he was the best at creating names, like, evar!! He could outname Tolkein on Tolkein's best day even if he let Tolkein use the CERN High-Velocity Namer and spotted him half the alphabet.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Surt]

I think he requested under-appreciated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin#Awards

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[TheLink]

Julian May
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_of_Pliocene_Exile

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[mellyra]

Noah Ward.

I think I get the "underappreciated" part - during the last few years the shc/fhc groupthink that labeled him as a useless cokehead grew pretty strong - but what exactly makes him a SciFi writer in your mind?

Is it a case of "game design is just like being an author - the only difference is the medium" or did he actually write anything?
backstory writers that come to mind are Abraxas (of course), Gnauton, Dropbear, Greyscale, Big Dumb Object, Tony Gonzales, ... but Hammerhead? I had a look at his posts and couldn't find any chronicle threads (chronicle author usually writes first post in the associated discussion thread).

Did he write some of the very early universe design or what makes you think of him as a SciFi writer?

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Shrike82]

Having recently picked up and devoured "Songs of the Dying Earth" I can agree with this. I'd never read any of Vance's original works, and was initially a little taken aback when I discovered the book I'd scooped up from the Si-Fi section in a rush was more Fantasy than Sci-Fi (let's not argue over the dividing line today). However, the world Vance created seems quite incredible, and the guest authors producing short stories for "Songs of the Dying Earth" did a spectacular job. Once I've worked my way through the backlog of books I have right now I may have to invest in some of Vance's original works.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Anonymous Coward]

If any deem this underappreciation deserved because he didn't seem to undertake the addressing of Big Themes, said "any" merely show they just. don't. get it.

+3 interesting? Maybe, but I can't make any sense out of that at all.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Jeremiah Cornelius]

Say his name aloud.

It was a pseudonym used in Hollywood by writers who no longer wanted their name attached to a production - usually after other writers were brought in.

Harlan Ellison used it, and I think David Gerrold.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Sir Realist]

Yeah, I wondered about that. There are a number of older authors who were quite justifiably lauded in their day, but who don't get much press now, but I don't know if that counts as under-appreciated. (Ursula maybe, but shes still pretty much known by modern sci fi fans. I was thinking Cordwainer Smith. But if you mean totally unappreciated, I don't think you can include anyone who won a Hugo or a Nebula...)

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[T.E.D.]

I don't think any author that I was forced to read in my High School English class counts as "underappreciated". Unless of course that is a new euphamisim for "hated". In that case, I certianly "underappreciated" The Left Hand of Darkness. Underappreciated the heck out of it.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Immerman]

Then again Tolkien didn't actually create many names, he borrowed heavily from Norse mythology and derivative works to create his universe (ever seen/read Wagner's opera, The Ring of the Nibelung?) The Fellowship is all named after the dwarves that support the corners of the world (or some such thing, it's been a long time and Norse mythology is... creative).

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Shirley Marquez]

I don't think LeGuin can be characterized as underappreciated, especially given her popularity in lit-fic and academic circles. Two of the other names I've seen here, Philip K Dick and Samuel Delany, have also gotten huge amount of attention from "serious" readers and therefore don't qualify.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Reziac]

Jack Vance, the original libertarian SF writer... not only underappreciated, but to those who do appreciate him, commonly our absolute favourite. Certainly the one I reread most often, and every book still seems fresh every time around (some are on read # 6 or 7 by now).

And the next-most underappreciated SF writer is, of course, myself. :D

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[walterbyrd]

Getting attention *here* from "serious readers" does not count for much.

Several of Phillip K. Dick's stories went on to become major Hollywood movies. But I think Phillip died impoverished, and relatively unknown.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Anonymous Coward]

Unless of course that is a new euphamisim for "hated". In that case, I certianly "underappreciated" The Left Hand of Darkness. Underappreciated the heck out of it.

I would suggest that you were either immature or had no taste. Fortunately, these conditions can be remedied by time.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[butalearner]

Anyway, the most under-appreciated sci-fi author, bar none, is Jack Vance.

I think any author recommendation should have a particular book or series to go along with it. Considering the man is nearly a century old, I'd appreciate some help knowing where to start!

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[randyleepublic]

Where are mod points when I need them. Vance is *somehow* God! Read his memoir. He's a schlumpf. Read his fiction: he is God! Go figure...

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[T.E.D.]

It's been 28 years, but you give me hope. :-)

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin

[Forty Two Tenfold]

outname Tolkein

Hooh? Lysdexia?

Stanislaw Lem

[eldavojohn]

I don't think he was the greatest science fiction writer but I think he got the shaft because he wasn't American or British and on top of that he wrote at a time when the Iron Curtain hindered the flow of information -- even fiction. Evidence for this can be seen when he released 17 works in the eight years that followed the "Polish October."

I will admit I don't know Polish and have only read the English translation of his works but I will also say that where I find contemporary authors like Stephen King or Cormac McCarthy to be masters of description, Lem was lacking. His works, however, I often found mirrored in later American science fiction and sometimes what he packed into a chapter could be as deeply philosophical and have as much political commentary as an entire novel by his contemporaries. One of my Polish computer vision professors in grad school saw me reading the Cyberiad and picked up my book and held it up to the class and hyperbolic-ally announced "Every work of science fiction past 1960 is a derivative of this man." He's probably a hero in Poland but I have friends that consider themselves very avid readers and haven't even heard of him.

I have to admit I even stumble upon works of his I never got around to and find pleasure in them.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Lem underappreciated? He's a megastar! (deservedly)

For underappreciated, try Sam Delany. Also, according to Wikipedia, the most misspelled.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Eddy_D]

Works by Stanislaw Lem were in my public library and I read them. Mind you that was back in the early 80's when I was in high school. I read what I could find.. interesting perspective.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[grogo]

I am of Polish descent, and have read all of Lem's books in Polish, and most in English. The originals are of course better -- he was a master of inventive wordplay which just doesn't translate very well into other languages. He shaped my appreciation of SciFi forever -- I could never understand why people liked Star Trek for example, which seemed so simplistic in comparison. He's very well known in the East, but hard to find in the West, even now.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[ACS Solver]

I was hoping in fact just today there'd be an appropriate reason for me to post this on Slashdot.

Lem is relatively well known in the USA, from what I can judge. The couple of English translations I've encountered weren't particularly good. Lem's Solaris is brilliant, and several other works are well worth reading.

But whom I really want to point out to sci-fi fans in the USA are the Strugatsky brothers (Arkady Strugatsky and Boris Strugatsky). Soviet sci-fi authors with legendary status in post-Soviet space among anyone who reads sci-fi. As an avid sci-fi fan, I put them on the very top tier of authors, along with the better known English-language greats like Clarke, Asimov or Bradbury.

English translations are not too numerous, but I discovered last month that one of their best books, Roadside Picnic, has been re-released in the USA with a new translation. Amazon link. Give it a try. I really hope that new edition will help in getting them to be better known in the English-speaking world, and greatly hope that this post will get at least a couple of Slashdotters to look into it.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[notandor]

For a US-centric Sci-Fi audience (as here on /. with a more ... libertarian crowd) you might be right, in continental Europe Lem is quite known. I also read that the English translations of his books are quite bad and no his literary work no justice. This might be an additional reason why his books are not as highly valued as they should be in the US.

Lems texts contain a heavy dose of philosophy (mostly epistemology), mathematical theory and statistics and also sometimes sociology and psychology and medicine, he was a polymath with a very interesting biography. Also, often he is often able to include a witty sense of humor into these sometimes dry topics that make it a delight to read for somebody familiar with the corresponding scientific background.

His works in both Polish (of course) and in German are top-notch, it would be quite hard to find a writer similar as to how he wrote, maybe the Strugatsky brothers, and a little bit of Gene Wolfe, Umberto Eco and Jorge Borges.

My favorite novels of him are actually non Sci-Fi books:

A Perfect Vacuum: Lem reviews non-existent books (that also cannot really exist physically the way they are described).
The Investigation: A detective is tasked with solving murders and uses statistical theory and philosophical metaphysics during his investigation.
The Cold: Another murder series to be solved, involves again statistics and chaos theory.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[kamapuaa]

That's an excellent choice, if by "underappreciated" you mean "widely read and extremely popular with sci-fi fans, but not quite a household name. Oh, and George Clooney starred in a movie adaptation of one of his novels."

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[BMOC]

Star Trek was simply the original television nerdgasm, it's not serious science-fiction. It's hollywood, so everyone is generally happy, conflict is rare, money and class is obsolete, and there's always a happy ending. It can't be serious science fiction on that basis alone.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[cpu6502]

>>>Arkady Strugatsky and Boris Strugatsky). Soviet sci-fi authors with legendary status in post-Soviet space among anyone who reads sci-fi.

The iron curtain blocked a lot of great writers. Not just for Russia/Eastern Europe but also China. I recently purchased a book that was an anthology of the "best" Chinese stories and was blown away.

TRIVIA - The best selling magazine in the WORLD is a Chinese science fiction magazine. "Science Fiction World" It has a readership of 400,000. For comparison Asimov's SF is only ~15,000.

http://www.concatenation.org/articles/science_fiction_world_2010.html

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[mcneely.mike]

For me, it was also about 'this is what mankind COULD be': I hoped that we would come together as a species and do something good, like travel into space as a peaceful cooperation effort, blah, blah, blah.

But i was young and hopeful.

And, I guess, stupid: 'man' is the most pathetic species on earth and will probably never be able to get together to do anything wonderful, really.

Too bad.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[K. S. Kyosuke]

The originals are of course better

You mean that they are more polished? *ducks*

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Fiasco is one of the great SF novels of all time.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[whitesea]

Lem is a master of satire. I love his Ijon Tichy stories. Some of his stories are purely funny, some are philosophical and some you will enjoy if you have appropriate scientific background. I used one of his stories to teach college students about strange qualities of countability. In the USA he is probably under-appreciated judging by the fact that I have not seen a single book by him in all the libraries where Azimov, Adams and Heinlein have been amply represented.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

he was a master of inventive wordplay which just doesn't translate very well into other languages

That's probably because in Polish there are a lot more words for sausage.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[turkeydance]

All o' 'em. eveR single one.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Omestes]

Clifford Simak.

Admittedly I'm biased, since the first actual novel discovered on my own and read was one of his. City is also one of the greatest sci-fi novels ever written. Sadly no one I know, even vintage sci-fi buffs, have ever read anything he ever wrote. This could be because its getting harder and harder to actually find his books anymore.

Like Lem, he suffers from the absolute lack of reprints. I own a translation of all of his novels, and it took over 8 years to accrue them all. Simak is in the same boat, I have some of his novels that I got in the late 80's used, and have never seen since. And I looked, since many of them were presumed lost (actually hidden in an attic somewhere for over 10 years).

Though I did get some people to go read him when I told them that Stephen King's Under the Dome was a badly written, never ending (with hackneyed unattributed T.S. Eliot references/quotes) , version of Simak's All Flesh is Grass.

Lem, though, at least, got two movies (one shallow and exciting, the other deep and boring). Simak probably will never be remembered after another generation. This somewhat depresses me.

I feel the need to go find a used bookstore and browse the old sci-fi section.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Enry]

I read City in high school for a Sci Fi class I was taking. I found a copy of City a few years ago and re-read it. It didn't seem to hold up as well almost 20 years later. I still have the copy and might donate it to the library.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[InterGuru]

I read Clifford Simak's "City" as a teenager in the 50's and I still remember it as clear as it was yesterday. It is one of my two all time favorites. The other is Bester's "The Stars my Destination". Bester is at least not underappreciated

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Gorobei]

This is the first Slashdot in ages in which the comments are hitting almost uniform high quality.

Brunner, LeGuin, Lem, and the Brothers Strugatsky. All great SciFi in terms of ideas above technological opera.

I hope to see Yevgeny Zamyatin, maybe even Jack Vance and Zelazny mentioned.

All these guys are on par with the standard "canon of important literature you should know, Mr college graduate."

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[postbigbang]

So was Robert Scheckley. He did the 10th Victim, turned into a movie starring Ursula Andress, a 1960's beauty some termed "Ursula Undress". But he was hilarious. Gone, but not forgotten.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Michael Kandel was an astonishing translator. having read the books in both polish and English I can say that the Cyberiad for example is on par. it's a great read and doesn't feel like a translation at all.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[chebucto]

Indeed. Star Trek was optimistic about the future. I always find it a little sad when people dismiss it for that reason. Surely, for all the distopian and pessimistic fiction our culture produces, we should have a few optimistic stories? If stories like The Terminator can be treated as faintly plausible, then why not Roddenberry's vision in Star Trek?

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Ranger]

Actually Lem was only under-appreciated in the United States and probably the UK as well. Worldwide he was one the post popular Science Fiction authors.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[jedidiah]

Star Trek had a tendency to ignore human nature. That's something that was nice about Bab5. We were in space but we were still ourselves. We've had 10 thousand years of recorded history to become something else. A couple hundred years and some extra technology isn't going to change us on a fundemental level.

You could point to history for equally drastic changes that didn't turn everything into pretty ponies and unicorns.

It got so bad that aliens had to stand in for human failings.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[brantondaveperson]

... then why not Roddenberry's vision in Star Trek?

Not that I disagree, but the answers to this seem to be all around us.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Omestes]

I had a differing experience. I pretty much thought I outgrew all of classic science fiction I read as a kid, and completely ignored it for more "serious" books. Awhile ago I realized that I was stupid, and decided to go back and reread a lot of the old books I remember. I reread City, and loved it for very different reasons than I remember liking it for.

I can see your point though, and I'm guessing the reasons that I found it still enjoyable and the reasons that you find it dated are the same. I find the simple, innocent, world he created to be fantastically refreshing. Its the future, blah blah, and yet we sit around on the porch enjoying tea with an old dog and some strangers. Its grand, but everyone acts like a rural midwesterner in the 50s. I find that charming now, when everything has to be dark, potentially cataclysmic, and fast. It has all the naive conventions of the time, sentient robots, habitable inhabitable planets (colonizing Jupiter is dumb.), most of the science in book is pretty much fantasy.

But there is something nice about it, to me at least. Its a nice throw back. All of Simak sort of falls into this, where its all very folksy and nostalgic, while talking about the "future" at the same time. At the very least it is completely unlike anything we have being written today.

I might be off the mark a bit for your feelings, though. I don't mean to stick words in your mouth, so excuse me if I did.

In the same binge, I reread a fair share of old cyberpunk, and that is a genre that aged relatively badly. The future is now, more banal than ever.

By the way, speaking of throwbacks, this is the first topic in a long long time where I felt as if I was actually on Slashdot, and not some strange rabid political and current events blog. I really hope we also get a nice case mod discussion going as well.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Asuyuka]

I'll have to look into him. I'm pretty sure my dad's huge collection includes some Simak, I used to see some of the covers growing up. I am lucky to have parents who were huge Scifi buffs.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Omestes]

I've been meaning to read that for years. When I was a kid it was perpetually stolen or missing from my local library, so I never got the chance.

I was about to purchase the ebook version, and realized that its $7.62, and decided to write it on my book list instead. Almost eight dollars for a book from 1956?! I'm guessing this book is suffering from the same problem as many other old sci-fi authors, limited reprints in small editions. I've been trying to find James P. Blaylock's (his pre-steampunk fetish stuff is also underappreciated) Homunculus for years, but for some reason no one has ever decided to republish it.

Apparently they are, in February of next year. And now its on Kindle... One of the few times I've kicked myself for siding with Amazon's competition.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Roadside Picnic is a brilliant book. IIt's also never been -that- hard to get ahold of an English translation of it, as far as I know. However, some of their other works are far more difficult to find. I keep looking every few months, hoping someone will translate and release or re-release some of their other works, but I don't hold out a huge amount of hope...

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[ACS Solver]

Simak is great. Made it to the other side of the Iron Curtain, too.I started reading sci-fi from my father's collection which he built up in Soviet times, and several of Simak's works were there. I really like some of his short stories (Limiting Factor stands out even now), really liked All Flesh Is Grass but of course City is the best thing he ever wrote. An excellent novel that spans ten thousand years.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Clifford Simak.
You might try charitable thrift stores such as Goodwill or St. Vincent DePauls. I've found almost all of my Simak that way.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Time is the Simplest Thing is my absolute favorite Simak novel. I loan out the book only with oath signed in blood.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

you -> *ducks*
everyone else -> *embarrassed silence*

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[gweihir]

Actually I read some Lem and I can say that he has no clue about science or engineering, but that does not stop him from writing totally clueless and ridiculous things about it. In addition, his characters are flat and boring. This is basically bad fantasy in a tech guise.

A total wast of time.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[element-o.p.]

Roger Zelazny (not knowing any other authors with that sirname, I assume that is who you meant) was definitely one of my favorite authors when I was in my late teens and twenties. I don't know that I would call him "underappreciated" though, since it was always easy to find his writing at Borders or Barnes and Noble.

Incidentally, I'd have to mention Joel Rosenberg as well. I can't think of Zelazny without reminiscing about Rosenberg's books, since I was reading both of their works around the same time in my life.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Yo can you reply to this post with details about that anthology so I can perhaps purchase it? Thanks

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[eriks]

Yes! Not only my favorite Simak novel, but IMHO, Time is the Simplest Thing is one of the best sci-fi stories ever written. I need to re-read that again soon.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

I will admit I don't know Polish and have only read the English translation of his works but I will also say that where I find contemporary authors like Stephen King or Cormac McCarthy to be masters of description, Lem was lacking. .

The translation was found to be lacking. The Millenium Trilogy only took off when the author was not around to object to being put onto a readable number of pages from his 1000+ including 11 pages of describing a table. His English translator resigned because 350 pages was reduced to 250.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Star Trek had a tendency to ignore human nature.

Star Trek: The Father Knows Best of Science Fiction.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[aNonnyMouseCowered]

A couple hundred years and some extra technology isn't going to change us on a fundemental level.

That's because we haven't evolved into another species yet. We're still that same hairless ape that trudged out of Africa a few hundred thousand years ago. War, love, and politics: these are things we inherited from our simian ancestors. Just watch any science documentary about chimps, our presumably nearest relatives as a species. But expect human nature to change when humanity turns from organic to inorganci. What I hate about Star Trek and Babylon 5 is how the Terrans are still flesh-and-blood humans that can still age and die, even if they have already conquered the speed of light, a far more daunting feat than achieving immortality. Far future space fiction is by its very nature escapist. If a you want socially realistic sci-fi, write cyberpunk or near future sci-fi that doesn't stray beyond Green Mars.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd also go with Lem ... great thought complexes, sometimes great trips. The cons are that it is obviously not bedtime literature and an somewhat "inconsistent" style (depending if you read more scientific stuff or more novel-esque titles). Also sometimes his word-inventions are a little wanky (nobody with a decent sense of marketing would call his stuff like that ... but maybe that's just the age) ... anyhow, I greatly enjoyed reading most of the stuff.
Language: German

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[dbIII]

Star Trek had a tendency to ignore human nature. That's something that was nice about Bab5.

Actually that's something I'm noticing while rereading some Gibson cyberpunk novels and why those ones worked while many copies are ignorable. Even when you are knee deep in technobable the stories are still about the people.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[retchdog]

and his translator(s?) certainly deserve a supporting credit. i'm sure they're not perfect, but i'm also sure it was a heroic struggle.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[muecksteiner]

I don't speak Polish, but am bilingual in English and German. And the German translations of Lem are apparently very, very good. They are certainly full of the kind of very innovative wordplay you mention, which is pretty much absent from the English version. I've been told that the person who did the German translation was a bi-lingual person for whom the whole thing was a labour of love, in that they went the extra mile to make sure as many of the little jokes and puns were translated properly.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Could you give a link for that book? Or a name, if it isn't available online? :)

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

He is also master of the "hostile space" feeling. For me, "Albatross" from the Tales of Pirx the Pilot is one of the most frightening stories.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[spitzig]

I just read City by Simac. It seemed to have a common (for me, very negative) trait for old school SF. Hardly any ACTION. It was all a thought experiment, TALKING about the development of the world. Of course, I'm a fan of the way cyberpunk explains hardly NOTHING, and just throws you into the action.

City wasn't really a novel, though. It was a collection of short stories, with a narrator.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

> I am of Polish descent, and have read all of Lem's books in Polish, and most in English. The originals are of course better

So you're saying you read them in Klingon as well?

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[gshegosh]

His "Robot fairytales" ("Bajki robotów") are one of the kind :-)

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Andrei Tarkovsky's Solaris is based on Lem's book. It's one of the great art films of the 20C, no doubt, and certainly one of the most intelligent SF movies. Soderburgh's remake is quite good, but Tarkovsky's film is in a class of its own.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Auldclootie]

Simak is not lost! He may be out of print, but all of his works (plus many other 'forgotten' authors) are widely available as bit torrents.... It could be the pirates will preserve the culture....

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Walterk]

One could almost say they're poles apart...

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[thomst]

Gorobel enthused:

This is the first Slashdot in ages in which the comments are hitting almost uniform high quality.

Brunner, LeGuin, Lem, and the Brothers Strugatsky. All great SciFi in terms of ideas above technological opera.

I hope to see Yevgeny Zamyatin, maybe even Jack Vance and Zelazny mentioned.

All these guys are on par with the standard "canon of important literature you should know, Mr college graduate."

I'm not familiar with Zamyatin, but the others are all first-rate writers.

I'd especially like to recommend Brunner, if you can find his books. Stand on Zanzibar, which deservedly won the Hugo, introduced a form of storytelling to sf that attempted (pretty successfully in my estimation) to invoke a multi-media experience via prose, and was, AFAIK, the first sf book to use the device of following a very large cast of characters, each of whose stories seem to be separate narratives, but which converge at the novel's climax to reveal the web of coincidence and connection that brings them together at last. It's a masterpiece, in the traditional sense of the term (i.e. - a piece created by a journeyman craftsman that embodies every aspect of the craft at its highest level of expression, which stands as a token of the creator's worthiness to be acknowledged as a master of his craft). It's also a quite wonderful story.

Brunner also wrote The Shockwave Rider, which (if you discount Thomas P. Ryan's The Adolescence of P-! - which I do) is really THE seminal cyberpunk novel (it predates Gibson, et al, by a half-a-decade or more), and, moreover, predicts the advent of the commercial Internet at a time when the ARPAnet was still government-controlled, and restricted to university computer labs, and a handful of chipmakers and defense contractors. Wonderful, wonderful book.

Brunner's work, even in the early days, was really head-and-shoulders above most of the sf his contemporaries churned out. He failed from time to time, but he always aimed for actual literature. Beginning with Stand on Zanzibar, he regularly produced exactly that: richly imaginative, wildly entertaining, literature. And one of the things I most respect about him is that every book is different. Unlike, for instance, Zelazny, who started out so brilliantly, but who turned into the Amber Corporation after his divorce (yes, I know they're very popular books - and I don't care - try reading his fabulous Hugo/Nebula winner Lord of Light, or his little remembered Isle of the Dead, or his novelette The Doors of His Face, The Lamps of His Mouth and see if you don't agree that the Amber series is really pretty dismal stuff by comparison), Brunner never compromised or sold out. He never wrote a series, never pandered, and never repeated himself.

In fact, I think one of Brunner's greatest novels is The Crucible of Time. It's an epic tale that covers thousands of years (and the rise and fall of several civilizations) on a planet inhabited by a truly ALIEN species - essentially intelligent gastropods - who slowly develop technologically to the point that their senior scientists finally realize the danger of planetary extinction with which they are faced, and begin a desperate race to launch a starship in an attempt to save at least a viable sample of their species. You really come to care about the individual characters, despite the fact that they're not a thing like human beings, and the story as a whole is tremendously gripping. Find it. Read it. You won't be disappointed.

However, my own nominee for this list of the undeservedly obscure is Raymond Z. Gallun. His output wasn't very large, but, again, every novel was different, and every novel was good. My favorite of his works is The Planet Strappers, a novel about the wildcat colonization of the asteroid belt by low-budget entrepreneurs. Just wonderful stuff.

I think Edmond Hamilton, who is ge

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Shrike82]

maybe even Jack Vance and Zelazny mentioned.

Vance mentioned further up. As I mentioned up there, an anthology of short stories from some fairly well known SF writers set in Vance's universe was published not so long back and is called "Songs of the Dying Earth". From what I understand (haven't yet read Vance's original works) it touches upon many of the characters and plots from his work so don't read if you're potentially upset by back stories that aren't as you imagined!

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Stirling Newberry]

No we've definitely picked up some traits since then, including adaptations to language, and parasites. The parasites adaptations are very recent, since we didn't spend a great deal of time around rivers that other humans defecated in until no more than about 8000 YBP

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[danbuter]

His fantasy novels were also quite good. Best part is, he could tell an amazing story in 300 pages or less. He didn't need 1,000 pages to detail tons of crap that didn't really matter.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[ruemere]

Read it and hated it for what he did to Pirx... also, the collective bout of intense stupidity at the end of the novel also left somewhat cold.

Regards,
Ruemere

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

It got so bad that aliens had to stand in for human failings.

And then got worse so that the aliens who were exposed to federation culture started getting infected by it.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[AmiMoJo]

Star Trek is based on the idea that once technology rids us of the need to work, the need for money and to compete for resources we will all get along better. After the technological revolution humanity starts working on a social revolution to end conflict.

Wars are always about resources or religion, or both. Resources are essentially infinite for most people and religion doesn't seem to exist in Star Trek, at least not in the hardcore form it does today. Certainly you never see members of the Federation with crosses or wearing hijabs.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[MercBoy]

I love Clifford Simak. The writing sometimes comes across as deceptively simple, but the stories are memorable.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Plumpaquatsch]

Star Trek had a tendency to ignore human nature.

No it didn't. It showed mankind as how it should be, with the other races having all the flaws of man.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Both Solaris and Roadside Picnic has been filmed. Andrey Tarkovskiy filmed both (Solaris 1972 and Stalker 1979), really heavy artistic movies. I liked both but I think you should be in the right mode and be the right person to enjoy them. Solaris has also been filmed by Steven Soderbergh with George Clooney in the lead role, closer to the novel and little less heavy, also very good.

The S.T.A.L.K.E.R game released in 2007 is also loosely based on Roadside Picnic.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Which books you want in English translation? I love Soviet science fiction (Bulgakov is one of my favorite authors, followed by Orlov).

I finished translating Alexander Kazantsev's Burning Island from Russian to English (Alexander Kazantsev wiki here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Kazantsev). It is not published, I'm still re-editing before I'm going to try and get it to a publisher, but it's fully readable in English. I want it to be a quality translation before I start sending it out.

The Strugatsky webpage in Russian is here: http://lib.ru/STRUGACKIE/
I *LOVE* lib.ru, it's awesome in the selection and quality.

I will add it to my queue of works I will work on translating.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Count Fenring]

I LOVE Clifford Simak. And he has the absolute greatest titles - Why Call Them Back From Heaven? being a personal favorite.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Count Fenring]

One thing I really like about him is that his people never stop behaving like people - he's very aware that, even in the far-flung future, even to some extent in times of crisis, the mechanisms of life go on, people keep having to do laundry and have lunch.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Count Fenring]

YES! Joel Rosenberg is great, although I've mostly read his fantasy. I really, really like The Guardians of the Flame series. It's such a shame he passed away.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

The vision of Star Trek was to show us what we could be, what we must become to survive as a species. And to to point out the absolute absurdity of racism etc...

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Count Fenring]

Brunner took the narrative technique in Zanzibar from John Dos Passos, and I wouldn't call it cyberpunk, myself - but I agree, he's a tremendous writer when he gets it right, and he does so very often. I just finished The Squares of the City, which I quite enjoyed - the ending was a little weak, but the book overall was very strong. One of my favorites of his that's less well known is The Stone That Never Came Down - it's a bit lighter than Zanzibar or The Sheep Look Up, while having a slightly more traditional plot-focused structure to it.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

ANYONE who listens to X-1 (Old OTR radio show) knows who Clifford D. Simak is. He was a great contributor to the series. Same with Murrey Leinster.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Lem's work is an excellent reason cherish one's "Polishness". His facility with the language, the play on words, phrases and concepts is unparallelled. The absolutely amazing sense of humor comes through best in the works that are hardest to translate (some of them can not be translated without loosing the true value). That still lives the "hard" sci-fi of amazing quality. He aso wrote in German and there are some good Russian translations. The thing to remember is that Lem was a philosopher and his writings go very, very deep into questions of what it means to be human, of what constitutes progress, of what the sciences are good for, all the while being entertaining.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[T.E.D.]

Hell, even the aliens in Babylon-5 acted more human that the humans in Star Trek. Even the ones that were so far advanced from us that they were practically gods had petty little squabbles amongst themselves.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

But of course, anyone who thinks they know how mankind ~should~ be is a fucking idiot.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[moeinvt]

I know we're talking sc-fi, but in Star Trek, they have energy sources far superior to our own (dilythium crystals?) and apparently have the capability to manipulate matter at the atomic level. Hence the transporter and the technology in the cafeteria.

Giant IF ... but assuming those conditions existed, and everyone had sufficient power, cheap travel and the ability to transmogrify sand into fish and chips, I'd say that there was more hope for the human race. Many struggles and conflicts are associated with resource concerns.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Lproven]

> Sadly no one I know, even vintage sci-fi buffs, have ever read anything he ever wrote.

If someone claims to be into classic SF & they've not read Simak, they're a liar. He is an essential writer, one of the greats. Unsung, yes, underappreciated, definitely, but not /that /obscure.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Zelazny never seemed to get the due he deserved, despite Hugo and Nebula's. And I am almost tempted to list Rudy Rucker but he does seem to be coming into mainstream appreciation now.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Omestes]

People in the Upper Midwest in the 50's you mean. We've got robots, we've got a spaceport in our backyard, we've got talking dogs and mutants... want to go fishin', or just sit on the porch sipping a tasty beverage?

I suppose that is what I loved about him, his complete lack of pretension. All of his protagonists (except the mysterious space mutants) reminded me of my father, or my relatives in Wisconsin. Most of the books of the time's protagonists were very much Zap Brannigan/Flash Gordon types, which works, but doesn't feel quite as real.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Omestes]

I've poked around a couple of those torrents, and generally found them to be of terrible quality on the whole. Most of them are really bad OCR jobs, completely lacking formatting, and systematically replacing letters with similar looking numbers, or visa versa.

Don't get me wrong, this is a flavor of piracy I'm completely unopposed to (no one is profiting from unpublished books), but I really wish someone would just purchase up all the rights to classic sci-fi novels (and classic mystery as well, another genre with a short memory), and make them into affordable, high quality, ebooks, and/or print on demand copies.

Actually that would make for an awesome nonprofit. Sell the books for a variable price, or for donations, use the money to buy more rights. I'm sure plenty of vintage sci-fi buffs would fork over decent amounts of cash to keep it running. That is always something that bugged me, how our culture sort of fades away unless someone decides it worth it to keep running. The amount of fall-off is kind of frightening, the things I loved I might not be able to share with my kids someday.

If I was king for a day, I'd make copyright lapse if a work is unpublished for a certain period of time. You have ten years, lets say, and if you don't do anything with it, it is magically public domain.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Omestes]

Hardly any ACTION. It was all a thought experiment, TALKING about the development of the world. Of course, I'm a fan of the way cyberpunk explains hardly NOTHING, and just throws you into the action.

I don't find that a fault really. There are times when some nice thought experiments are nice, and there are times when action are nice. I generally prefer the former, most of the time. I suppose it boils down to taste, and what you want to get out of reading. I like finishing a book, and spending another hour or so sitting on the patio contemplating what I just read.

City wasn't really a novel, though. It was a collection of short stories, with a narrator.

It was originally published as a series of short stories, with "bridge" bits. I'm okay with that format, one of my other favorites books is Jeff Noon's (author of Vurt) Pixel Juice, which is a collection of very loosely related short stories (in his surrealistic sci-fi bent) that only really relate when you sit around and contemplate them. The more you do so, the more the collection gels into a (semi)cohesive whole.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Izabael_DaJinn]

I think Zelazny *is* underrated because though while he is widely available, he never seems to be mentioned with other Sci-Fi "greats" like Heinlein (whoop-dee-doo). At any rate, I've read the entire Amber series at least ten times. I love the sarcastic, first person style and Machiavellian politics.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[azhitsky]

I grew up on Clifford Simak's Goblin Reservation. It is a perfect novel and probably my all time favorite. Simak was well respected in USSR and was extensively published in Russian. And back in 1995 I was able to find prints of his several novels in Borders store...

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Reziac]

At one point Simak was very, very popular; I myself own probably 90% of his works that can be had in paperback, and used to read him voraciously. Then my tastes changed, matured, whatever, and now I find a great deal of this older stuff, that I used to devour, utterly unreadable. :/

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[doom]

For underappreciated, try Sam Delany.

Yes... in particular, try starting with "Babel-17", a proto-cyberpunk space opera with some of the flash of a Star Wars, but based on some speculative ideas about linguistics...

Some of Delany's books-- notably the strange and perpetually controversial "Dhalgren"-- have sold well enough that it's not clear he qualifies as "underappreciated", though.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[element-o.p.]

Seconded -- absolutely one of my all-time favorite series!

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[element-o.p.]

Point taken -- "underrated" != "obscure" or "unavailable." And yes, I loved Amber for exactly the same reasons you mentioned :)

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

>>>Arkady Strugatsky and Boris Strugatsky). Soviet sci-fi authors with legendary status in post-Soviet space among anyone who reads sci-fi.

The iron curtain blocked a lot of great writers. Not just for Russia/Eastern Europe but also China. I recently purchased a book that was an anthology of the "best" Chinese stories and was blown away.

TRIVIA - The best selling magazine in the WORLD is a Chinese science fiction magazine. "Science Fiction World" It has a readership of 400,000. For comparison Asimov's SF is only ~15,000.

http://www.concatenation.org/articles/science_fiction_world_2010.html

Could not agree more: Strugatsky brothers and Stanislaw Lem.

Unfortunately they are not well known in US, but heir work is brilliant.

Not only the originality of ideas is amazing, but also the intrinsic quality of their literature.

The translations must be very good to capture the richness of their language, though.

The good news is a lot of Lem's works and Strugatsky's works are being reprinted in English and can be found on Amazon(Roadside Picnic, Cyberiad, The Futurological Congress) .

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Count Fenring]

Yes. Those people. And I very, very much agree on the lack of pretension.

Another writer who I felt has a pleasing lack of pretension (although he's much inferior in many other respects) is E. C. Tubb. The Dumarest series is kind of fun - it's formulaic fluff, but the sense of fun I got out of it kind of reminds me of Simak.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

THIS! Dear friend, WHERE can I find Simak's books? I have looked for years.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Omestes]

I found a couple places around the web, but being that I'm not sure of their legality I'm not going to share, sorry. But there is a place out there which has almost his complete works in .epub and .mobi formats. Another poster said that Amazon has free Kindle editions of his books, if your a Kindle type person.

If you're a bit diligent with your Google-fu, I'm sure you can find them all without too much fuss.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[mrsquid0]

The original Star Trek was mostly simplistic and cartoonish (although there were moments of brilliance), but it was still significantly better than almost any other science fiction on tv at the time. The only thing that I can think of that was better in the 1960s was The Twilight Zone. Star Trek was simplistic compared to the science fiction literature in the 1960s, but (with a very few notable exceptions) it was not until the 1980s that any tv drama started to reach literary quality. Star Trek was just a product of its time.

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

There are 3 Solaris movies, you don't seem to know about the first one by Boris Nirenburg in 1968.

Also by Simak: Shakespeare's planet (PDF)

Re:Stanislaw Lem

[Anonymous Coward]

Simak is one of the greatest SF writers. Why do you say no one knows him? I own/read most of his books.

Subjectivity

[TemperedAlchemist]

Isaac Asimov.

Obviously.

Re:Subjectivity

[stridgedom]

Isaac Asimov is also my favourite, but I don't think he is under-appreciated. The 3 laws of robotics has been quoted in quite a few movies and he is well known in scientific circles as well, especially astronomy and of course robotics. One of my new favourites would definitely have to be Alistair Reynolds. I picked up one of his books at random at the library, and could not put it down until breakfast the next day, when it was done.

Re:Subjectivity

[hey!]

Well, being well known and oft-cited isn't the same as being appreciated for what you really are. Consider Adam Smith who wrote *The Wealth of Nations* a book far more cited than read.

Asimov was merely a *good* writer, but he was a *brilliant* thinker. There are, therefore, multiple layers of irony then in the way the three laws are cited. They don't have the kind of scientific validity they have in his robot story universe, where people simply cannot build robots that violate the laws. In the real world we are far from building robots that are capable of interpreting the three laws.

The real significance of the laws is literary. They killed the popularity of the robot-run-amok story, because suddenly everyone expected a more sophisticated -- or at least more clever story than a third-hand Frankenstein retread. Such a story would pose no challenge nor offer rewards to an intellect like his.

The ultimate irony is that while the three laws are the sci-fi trope par excellence, Asimov used them as an excuse to slip numerous variations on the classic locked room murder mystery past sci-fi readers. He wrote a number of great pure sci-fi stories, but I think he was at heart a mystery writer.

Re:Subjectivity

[Anonymous Coward]

He's one of the most appreciated ever.

Re:Subjectivity

[ackthpt]

He's one of the most appreciated ever.

Alas, his I Robot was translated into a travesty of a film .. rather like happened to Heinlein's Starship Troopers.

Re:Subjectivity

[Dishevel]

It does not matter how much he is quoted, credited or appreciated.
Asimov was so AWESOME the petty human race is incapable of appreciating him anywhere near enough.
Since humanity can not appreciate him enough he is the most under appreciated Sci-Fi writer ever.

Re:Subjectivity

[Baloroth]

I've read some of his actual mystery stories once: they were fantastic. Unfortunately, I've not been able to find another copy and was only able to read them for a short while a few years ago at a house I was visiting. I don't even remember what the collection was called.

Re:Subjectivity

[K. S. Kyosuke]

Just tell us the synopses of those stories that you remember and I'm sure someone here will be able to put a name on them.

Re:Subjectivity

[Enry]

There's a two volume set of Asimov's short stories. There's a bunch of his mysteries in there.

Re:Subjectivity

[nabsltd]

Unfortunately, I've not been able to find another copy and was only able to read them for a short while a few years ago at a house I was visiting. I don't even remember what the collection was called.

Asimov was so prolific that I don't think he ever did anything "just once".

A Whiff of Death and Murder at the ABA were mystery novels, but he also published five collections of mostly science fiction mysteries. In addition, there were six collections of the Black Widowers mysteries. For all the gory details, see the bottom of his bibliography.

Re:Subjectivity

[techno-vampire]

They don't have the kind of scientific validity they have in his robot story universe, where people simply cannot build robots that violate the laws.

It wasn't that they couldn't build robots that didn't obey the three laws, they wouldn't. In fact, there's a story in which the problem is to find a robot made with a modified form of the first law: "A robot shall not harm a human being" for reasons that seemed good at the time.

Re:Subjectivity

[jedidiah]

I Robot is not nearly as bad as some people whine and Starship Troopers was clearly not meant to be a straight adaptation.

Re:Subjectivity

[brantondaveperson]

"The Caves of Steel" is one of his mystery novels. Hugely enjoyable, and once adapted for TV (but now lost).

Re:Subjectivity

[Baloroth]

Looks like it was Asimov's Mysteries, I very clearly remember The Singing Bell (only one I do clearly remember). I'll have to try to find some of them: I must admit my classic Sci-fi is a bit lacking, aside from Jules Verne.

Re:Subjectivity

[jgdobak]

Verhoeven's Starship Troopers adaption was a brilliant parody of the original material and made a pointed joke of everything Heinlein claimed to stand for.

If you consider the original novel to be profound I can't imagine you would have the sense of self-awareness required to enjoy the film, anyway.

Re:Subjectivity

[ackthpt]

Verhoeven's Starship Troopers adaption was a brilliant parody of the original material and made a pointed joke of everything Heinlein claimed to stand for.

If you consider the original novel to be profound I can't imagine you would have the sense of self-awareness required to enjoy the film, anyway.

I thought the novel was a very interesting perspective piece. I thought the film was about as faithful to the book as Jurassic Park (film) was to Jurassic Park (novel). Most books suffer in the translation, but I found Verhoeven's whack at the film an extremely dullwitted action film, based on eye-candy CGI affects - which too many films are all about anymore. Would have been much better if they'd have made the film more in the vein of the book, punching up things a little bit and sticking with the view of the soldiers going into combat. A similar treatment to Ender's Game I'm half expecting. Hollywood doesn't do deep sci-fi, or any fiction for that matter, they do know what their audience demands, dumbed-down films.

Re:Subjectivity

[element-o.p.]

I read an essay by Asimov once where he laid the groundwork for sci-fi mystery. I was still in elementary school at the time, so I don't remember much of it, but you certainly nailed his point of view when you said, "such a story would pose no challenge nor offer rewards to an intellect like his." I do remember one thing in particular that he said (although I don't claim to do anything more than a rough paraphrase). The gist of it was that a sci-fi mystery writer could not pull a "deus ex machina" to solve the mystery. In sci-fi, there are very few limits on the author. Since you are writing about *possibilities* that have not yet occurred, the author could easily inject some tidbit of information that anyone living in the imagined world would know, but that no reader could possibly no about unless the author told them about it. For example, the hero could claim he knew one of the characters was lying when he claimed to have participated in some war because the character would only have been two years old when the war took place. To Asimov, that was cheating -- the author had to give the readers all of the information needed to solve the mystery, otherwise it wasn't fair to the reader.

So yes, I think you are correct. At heart, Asimov was a mystery writer, and a darned good one at that ;)

Re:Subjectivity

[element-o.p.]

I agree with you on the first point (while the story has very little in common with any of Asimov's stories, it wasn't a bad film), but while you are technically correct on the second point, "Starship Troopers" has got to be one of the worst film adaptations ever (at least in my typically not-so-humble opinion, lol).

Re:Subjectivity

[Z00L00K]

I'm not sure that it was everything Heinlein did stand for in the book, he usually took a few ideas, stuck to them for the story of the book and made a good story of it. But he's hardly under-appreciated.

If you need an under-appreciated author, try Bertil Mårtensson.

Re:Subjectivity

[Anonymous Coward]

Verhoeven's Starship Troopers adaption was a brilliant parody of the original material and made a pointed joke of everything Heinlein claimed to stand for. If you consider the original novel to be profound I can't imagine you would have the sense of self-awareness required to enjoy the film, anyway.

Verhoeven is a ham-fisted buffoon.

Re:Subjectivity

[khallow]

Verhoeven's Starship Troopers adaption was a brilliant parody of the original material and made a pointed joke of everything Heinlein claimed to stand for.

If you consider the original novel to be profound I can't imagine you would have the sense of self-awareness required to enjoy the film, anyway.

I see you need a little something in that department as well. As unintentional self-parody, it was decent material. And space marines killing bugs? Always a great time!

Re:Subjectivity

[Plumpaquatsch]

I Robot is not nearly as bad as some people whine.

As a popcorn movie it was okay, but as something having the name Asimov linked to it it was a rape of everything he ever wrote.

Re:Subjectivity

[Anonymous Coward]

+5 Insightful for an ad hominem? Jeez.

I'm not on either side of this, but Verhoeven even bragged about not actually reading the whole book. I'm just saying...

If you can't find anything profound about any of the ideas in *either* the book or the movie, your own comment about self-awareness rings extremely hollow.

Re:Subjectivity

[Strange_Attractor]

Verhoeven's Starship Troopers was only dullwitted if you ignore its entire point - a venomous satire of propaganda and groupthink.

Re:Subjectivity

[rochrist]

That's being far too kind to him.

Re:Subjectivity

[SJester]

Ellison purportedly wrote an I, Robot script. That's something I'd like to see. The lowbrow action flick was terrible. Two brains? The robot has a secret f***ing brain? That's the plot twist?!

Re:Subjectivity

[srmalloy]

I thought the film was about as faithful to the book as Jurassic Park (film) was to Jurassic Park (novel).

I tend to refer to it as the 'Nutri-Matic Tea' version -- a film almost, but not quite, completely unlike the novel.

Re:Subjectivity

[ByOhTek]

I'd second Reynolds. I was business trip, and stopped in a book store and picked up a copy of Galactic North... Been hooked ever since.

I'd add Bob Mayer as well. He's a bit faster paced then Reynolds, and very good at telling a story. He can take a seemingly boring premise and turn it into a good story, and with a good premise...

Alastair Reynolds

[Anonymous Coward]

Love the Revelation Space series...

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[rgknox]

I don't know if Reynolds is under-appreciated, but I like his work also. He comes up with some pretty far-out ideas and is capable of conveying what he's envisioning. Some of my favorites: Revelation Space collection, House of Suns, Diamond Dogs, The Prefect.

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[Alamais]

Agree, except for Absolution Gap. Ugh.

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[israeliboy]

I thought Absolution Gap was his best, but I read it (accidentally) before reading Revelation Space and Redemption Ark. Yeah, I don't know how that happened. I kept thinking, wow, he expects so much from his readers. But when I went back and read the predecessors, I didn't like them as much. And I think Scorpio is by far his best character.

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[huckamania]

To me, Alastair Reynolds is the Robert Jordan of sci-fi. Very long, very tropish, not worth the effort. My Brother adores him, so does my ex-boss who has read everything. My wife didn't care for it, boring and over explanatory.

I think Iain Banks ruined me for Reynolds, which is funny because it was my ex-boss who turned me on to both authors. I don't know if Iain Banks is under appreciated, but I was the first to mention him in the depressing sci-fi thread. The Culture is this super enlightened, biological/AI civilization, but most of the stories focus on the fringes and they are dark. It would be simpler to list his non-depressing books.

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[IrquiM]

True - Reynolds' not for everyone. But clearly worth the effort if you like good SciFi. I guess we are the complete opposites as I felt Iain Banks was a bit too simple and hurried.

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[Anonymous Coward]

Reynolds can't compare to Banks. The protagonists of Banks' ultra-civilized Culture operate in and often find themselves drawn to the more violent civilizations in the universe...

Another under-appreciated sci fi author is A.A. Attanasio. I don't know if "Radix" or "Solis" is still in print but they were memorably...strange. And "Radix" was almost like two books in one. His later works were more mainstream.

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[Lonewolf666]

I liked most of that trilogy, but the ending was just weak.

First we get told in little more than an aside that humanity found some allies and managed to chase the Inhibitors off. Which should have been the grand finale or even a forth volume. Defintely a missed opportunity for a great space opera.

Then the same humanity runs from some out-of-control terraformers that should have been a much lesser threat than the Inhibitors due to their lack of cunning aggression. WTF???

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[Myrv]

I did the same thing. I picked it up browsing the shelves and there was absolutely nothing on the book suggesting it was the third of a series. Slogging through the first hundred pages was a little painful and I eventually came to the conclusion there must be previous books but by then I was on the road and had pieced together enough of the back story that I just pushed through and finished it. In a way I think that made the somewhat abrupt resolution to the Inhibitors a bit more palatable. If I had invested in two other books about the war against the Inhibitors I may have been a little more miffed at the resolution. As such I've had no desire to read the previous books so can't comment on the. Gap though was well written.

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[Reziac]

I read a couple of those Culture novels, and... I found his "enlightened" Culture to be absolutely frightening. The dark fringes are the last gasp of real freedom in that universe. Yet it seems to me the books are all about defeating those fringes and speading universal utopia.

It's been said that every utopia is a dystopia to the society it replaced. Iain Banks is certainly an example of that, to my mind.

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[Anonymous Coward]

Weak ending, sure, but better characterization. And the scale of the situation with the inhibitors only really comes through in the proper bleakness there.

Re:Alastair Reynolds

[Anonymous Coward]

Personally prefer his Merlin series, and all of his singletons (e.g. house of Suns). Marlin stories are difficult to get hold of though (all are in Zima Blue).
Yes, Absolution Gap was rubbish.

Frank Herbert

[Anonymous Coward]

Dune is a masterpiece. The masses don't know it exists. The award-givers looked him over. And only the first book got any real acclaim from critics.

Re:Frank Herbert

[TWX]

Dune had a major motion picture, and 20 years later, a miniseries. It's also a fairly hard read and while it's a good book, I can see why it's not popular with the masses.

Re:Frank Herbert

[Anonymous Coward]

Dune had a major motion picture...

...which was really not Dune at all, has multiple versions, and which basically no one saw.

...20 years later, a miniseries...

Which was truer to the book, but not as flashy, which even fewer people saw.

It's also a fairly hard read and while it's a good book, I can see why it's not popular with the masses.

Which is why, even though a LotR treatment would make for an excellent film, it will never happen.

Hence: Underappreciated

Re:Frank Herbert

[sgbett]

Massive Agree. A universe to rival middle earth, a society/back story every bit as detailed and interesting as 'The Culture'. Perhaps only bettered by the foundation series by virtue of it having been written first.

The film was at best a superficial introduction to characters that missed out swathes of story, and appeared to run out of budget half way through (or maybe never had any at the start!). The TV show... well...

You could easily crank out an amazing film(...series of?). I nominate the Wachowskis!

Re:Frank Herbert

[Anonymous Coward]

Dune is a hard read? ...Man. That explains Harry Potter and Twilight, I guess.

Dune is freaking Dr. Seuss compared to God Emperor. ;)

Re:Frank Herbert

[__aaltlg1547]

I thought Dune was a wonderful story by read the rest of the series with an increasing sense of disappointment. I guess Herbert IS underappreciated. I don't appreciate him as much ad I could.

Re:Frank Herbert

[Colonel Korn]

Dune is a masterpiece. The masses don't know it exists. The award-givers looked him over. And only the first book got any real acclaim from critics.

I think Dune is wildly popular with the masses (of people who would ever consider reading sci fi) and that it doesn't live up to the widespread hype.

Re:Frank Herbert

[Gorobei]

Dune is a masterpiece. The masses don't know it exists. The award-givers looked him over. And only the first book got any real acclaim from critics.

It's a good book, but it's just not that interesting in terms of ideas. It's just desert Islam in space. Plus some worms to provide action.

Seriously, just ask "who would I want to be in this book?" About the only answer is Paul or maybe one of the tech-geek mentats.

Bummer if you're a women too: you get some soft power if you happen to be in the elite court and get your Bene Gesserit training, else you are pretty much a non-entity.

If you think Dune is great, you'll like many of the available historical novels out there.

Re:Frank Herbert

[witherstaff]

Dune is great, as long as you don't include anything his kid wrote. I read some of those, thought they were bad. Then they had the final chapter - supposedly from notes left from his dad. I think they pulled a blair witch with a fake finding of something. It was bad. Bad is putting it nicely, it took all the philosophical bent that dune had and wrapped it up into something that was dreary to get through. Also they had to write a few trilogies of mediocre at best sci fi to explain the old couple characters in the last chapter of chapterhouse. Not a good way to wrap up the series and the cliffhanger Herbert left with his death wasn't solved adequately.

Re:Frank Herbert

[Anonymous Coward]

God Emperor and Heretics tried my high school patience. But I still thought they were wonderful

Re:Frank Herbert

[aitikin]

The film was at best a superficial introduction to characters that missed out swathes of story, and appeared to run out of budget half way through (or maybe never had any at the start!).

Production on the 1984 release of Dune technically started over a decade earlier (although it was halted, studio's rights ran out, rights were sold to another studio, writers dropped out, etc) and then was a 4 hour epic, before post-production effects, so they cut more than a butcher does in a year, and rewrote scene after scene after scene until it was as short as it is. That's (IMO) mostly why it feels half-assed.

as for the Wachowskis, let's not get carried away, remember The Matrix Reloaded? Cause I wish I didn't...

Re:Frank Herbert

[Anonymous Coward]

Frank Herbert *is* underappreciated, but he's no where near being the most underappreciated. That said, I feel like something has to be said here.

The problem is that the masses tend to only like the first book, or at least like it the most without really understanding what the series was supposed to be about. Dune isn't a situation like The Matrix where the original was so popular so they decided to tack on some sequels later. Herbert had already written large portions of the 2nd and 3rd book before completing Dune. Dune and the story of Muad'Dib is really just the setup (ie, the Kwisatz Haderach was supposed to come a generation later... Which is where Leto II comes in). There's a lot themes central to Dune, but I think the main (according to Herbert himself) was the theme of the long term affects of the messiah.

The masses tend to enjoy the 1st book the most (or only the 1st book) because it's an adventure story where as the rest of the series tends to be much deeper (except for perhaps Children of Dune which is a great book but still the weakest of the series). The deepest and the most core in the series is God Emperor of Dune.

In terms of action and adventure, the series does pick up again with book 5.

I have to admit my 1st time reading through the series, I found myself becoming more and more disappointed (but I enjoyed the 2nd book at least as much as the 1st, not sure why people are so down on it) and initially felt God Emperor wasn't very good in general. I've come full circle and appreciate God Emperor the most. Years ago, a classmate in college pointed out something quite interesting about God Emperor: "There's not many books where the villain and the hero are the same character".

Re:Frank Herbert

[neuro88]

Dune is great, as long as you don't include anything his kid wrote. I read some of those, thought they were bad. Then they had the final chapter - supposedly from notes left from his dad. I think they pulled a blair witch with a fake finding of something. It was bad. Bad is putting it nicely, it took all the philosophical bent that dune had and wrapped it up into something that was dreary to get through. Also they had to write a few trilogies of mediocre at best sci fi to explain the old couple characters in the last chapter of chapterhouse. Not a good way to wrap up the series and the cliffhanger Herbert left with his death wasn't solved adequately.

Oh I think his kid really did find something... But I doubt he'll ever have the guts to release the 30 or so pages of notes that were found. Kevin Herbert's ending to the series was clearly not where Frank Herbert was going. Oh I'm sure some of it is accurate, but certainly not the major points.

Duncan is the true Kwisatz Haderach (or something like that) and so he merges with an AI that only existed in his Butlerian Jihad books? What about one of the most important themes to Dune that a central and charismatic leader is terrible for humanity because it results in stagnation? And *SPOILER ALERT* what about the whole thing where the Bene Gesserit decide to work with Leto's golden path and bait the Honored Matre's into destroying Arrakis to fully erase Leto's conciousness to free humanity from the trap of prescience? *END SPOILERS*.

All that said, Frank Herbert was certainly going somewhere with Duncan, but I personally have no idea where.

Re:Frank Herbert

[neuro88]

Frank Herbert *is* underappreciated, but he's no where near being the most underappreciated. That said, I feel like something has to be said here.

The problem is that the masses tend to only like the first book, or at least like it the most without really understanding what the series was supposed to be about...

This is the 1st time ever that I'm replying to myself but I didn't mean to post this anonymously. Ugh.

Re:Frank Herbert

[dbIII]

I gave up after Duncan Idaho turned up again for the sixth or sixteenth time.
"Dragon under the Sea" is probably not seen as SF anymore but is ten times better than anything Clancy ever wrote with a submarine in it. Even "whipping star" was good.

Re:Frank Herbert

[Anonymous Coward]

Dune won the Nebula _and_ the Hugo and was a huge best-seller (as were most of the sequels). How is that "underappreciated"?

Re:Frank Herbert

[Anonymous Coward]

You're talking about a completely different book than I read.

You do realize the return to patriarchal feudalism was intentional, right? Despite that, the genders are pretty much equally powerless unless part of court or specially trained. It's an epic dealing with the most powerful people in the known universe. We're all non-entities in such stories. Even Paul, who ultimately has the most power is unable to use that power as he wishes.

I wouldn't want to be anyone in the book. If I had to choose, I'd choose Fenring, not Paul.

Re:Frank Herbert

[Anonymous Coward]

There's no way that Frank Herbert is "underrated". He's one of the stars of science fiction. However, I disagree with both of these responses. The first Dune novel is an excellent story with an exciting ending, but it just sets the stage for the next few novels. The first four form a complete arc and cover a wide breadth of topics that can't be summarized as something pithy like "desert Islam in space". It's a vast, philosophical tour de force. Some of the many themes include evolution, religion, power, omniscience, space travel, ecology, civilization, and conquest.

Re:Frank Herbert

[Meski]

Seriously, just ask "who would I want to be in this book?"

Piter De Vries

Re:Frank Herbert

[Gorobei]

I had that one covered: "tech-geek mentat."

PDV is, of course, the character I had in mind for that. I'd make the same choice.

J. K. Rowling

[HaeMaker]

Going for a downvote record!

Re:J. K. Rowling

[drobety]

L. Ron Hubbard!

Re:J. K. Rowling

[wierd_w]

Oh, I totally agree!

We need an "L. Ron Hubbard award for literary audaciousness".

What other sci-fi writer jumped the shark with such intense audacity as to proclaim a series of lackluster works of science fiction space opera cliches as a genuine religious faith?

Clearly, this level of literary audaciousness deserves a analog to the raspberry award.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[sjames]

You gotta admire the innovation though. I mean, many sci-fi stories have been turned into movies or video games, a few into plays and some have even inspired albums. But to my knowledge, Hubbard is the first to turn a sci-fi series into a decades long piece of performance art so encompassing that most of the players don't realize it isn't real life. He even called his shot!

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

Too bad, my Ayn Rand comment is WAAAAAYYYY ahead.

Maybe if you find the Crumple-Horned Snorkack, that'll work. Or talk about Draco in his leather pants.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Eponymous Hero]

What other sci-fi writer jumped the shark with such intense audacity as to proclaim a series of lackluster works of science fiction space opera cliches as a genuine religious faith?

joseph smith. have you had a peek at the pearl of great price? oh, and the person/people who wrote the urantia book. dianetics is a urantia rip-off.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Deadstick]

I once worked in a place where numerous people spent long hours sitting at consoles waiting for things to happen, and were allowed to read to stay awake. One guy used to read the same book over and over again, perhaps a hundred times over a decade...

It was Battlefield Earth.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

Congratulations Eponymous Hero you are a bigot!

Re:J. K. Rowling

[RedBear]

Keep modding parent up, please.

Everyone's opinion of L. Ron Hubbard today is strongly colored by the fact that he went insane at some point and took a joke way too far (by inventing Scientology as part of a casual bet with Heinlein over who could invent the best religion). I hate Scientology and all other religious cults (i.e. "religions") as much as the next rational person, but unfortunately it makes people forget the fact that LRH was actually a very good writer back in the day, including science fiction. He was contemporaries and friends with other sci-fi greats like Heinlein. People judge him now based on the craziness of the Xenu story, but I believe he specifically made the basis of Scientology as totally nonsensical as possible to demonstrate how easy it is to get people to believe in totally nonsensical made-up crap. He was making a point, originally, but then ran off the tracks with it because so many people fell for it that he convinced himself it was real (or at least worth taking advantage of to bring himself money and power).

All that aside, and this has been mentioned before a couple of times in other sci-fi discussions, the man was fully capable of writing excellent stories. I was fortunate to read _Battlefield Earth_ long before I had ever heard of Scientology, and even though I've devoured Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke, Herbert, Dick, Zelazny, and many other great collections of sci-fi before and since, to this day decades later _Battlefield Earth_ remains one of my favorite sci-fi novels. There's just something about it. It's incredibly well thought out logistically and filled with fascinating concepts that I've never quite seen replicated in any other sci-fi I've ever read or seen since then. There's a sort of plans-within-plans scheming aspect that strongly reminds me of _Dune_ at times. It's also very long, much longer than your typical sci-fi novel, so it's got the space to tell a very detailed and satisfying saga-type story with lots of different well-written characters. There are many concepts and scenes from the book that just pop back into my head now and then because they were just so unique and interesting. Oh, and it's just plain fun. It's a grand adventure. (One of my favorite parts was the little gray lawyer guy with the upset stomach at the end. Hilarious.)

The movie of course is a horrible joke. I was actually kind of surprised that someone with that much money to play with and who supposedly worships LRH as part of his religion would thoroughly massacre such a great book. The movie ended up containing about 1% of what made the book so good. So don't let that stop you from reading the book. If someone really did justice to a movie adaptation it could easily be one of the best blockbuster trilogies ever made.

So anyway, if you've got the balls go get yourself a copy of _Battlefield Earth_ and read it. Then when people ask why you're reading crap by "that Scientology guy" you can set them straight. My vote is definitely for L. Ron Hubbard being one of the most underappreciated sci-fi writers today.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

BE was a good read, I just find his satirical slant on everything to be tiresome.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[spitzig]

Battlefield Earth is on my list of worst books I've ever read. A list with maybe 5 others. It's BORING. Like half the book takes place AFTER the entire planet of bad guys is killed off. It reads like an economics textbook.

The SF is bland and unoriginal. The main character did no wrong-a perfect main character is not interesting.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Auldclootie]

Elron was a grand jester who invented scientology just to show how it could be done - no matter how stupid or ridiculous the premise. ...And he was right, there are plenty of dumb people to jump on the bandwagon. He'd laugh about it if he could. He was also a very passable sf author and later shenanigans do not detract from the value of Battlefield Earth - a book just praying for a good movie treatment

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Truedat]

I hate Scientology and all other religious cults (i.e. "religions") as much as the next rational person, but

It's ironic that you have to make slashdots equivalent of the sign of the cross so that you aren't modded down as a heretic for your subsequent words. Slashdot canon if you will.

We are all members of one cult or another as we can't escape indoctrination - except maybe for those dumped in a forest at the age of four and raised by wolves. I know this because most of us slip into the cogs of western society like those that went before us. There is a place in the machine for everyone.

That you proclaim yourself as rational makes me skeptical of you but I could be wrong, maybe I should have taken a chance and read the rest of your post, but I couldn't get past slashdots bigoted received wisdom on this occasion.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[second_coming]

Have to agree on the Battlefield Earth front, I love that book. The copy I have states on the cover "soon to be made into a full length feature film!" which when it did eventually happen absolutely did no justice the book whatsoever.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

Try The Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest: Where “WWW” means “Wretched Writers Welcome”.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[RedBear]

Battlefield Earth is on my list of worst books I've ever read. A list with maybe 5 others. It's BORING. Like half the book takes place AFTER the entire planet of bad guys is killed off. It reads like an economics textbook.

The SF is bland and unoriginal. The main character did no wrong-a perfect main character is not interesting.

The Illiad and the Odyssey was BORING. Like half the book takes place AFTER the fall of Troy. It reads like a history textbook.

If you think Johnny Goodboy Tyler was perfect you and I must have read a different book. Clever, yes, and well-liked by others, but he had his share of problems and mistakes. I found all the characterizations in the book to be indicative of a strong understanding of human nature and personalities.

Perhaps it is you who are boring, or maybe you were expecting a different story when you read the book, and you were disappointed that every single page didn't involve a space opera style alien shootout. Maybe you should stick with picture books. Like the kind with six cardboard pages that don't give you a chance to get bored.

Awww, snap! Oh, no you didn't!

Oh, yes. Yes I did.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[RivenAleem]

I remember that Frank Herbert took part in that bet too, hence Dune having the religious theme. I forget which work Heinlein wrote as part of the bet.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

I hate all religous cults ... (i.e. religions)

Wow. Superior much?

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

Jim Butcher!!!

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

Battlefield Earth could easily be split into two books with about 1.5 pages of rewrites. "They" are both a great read. The "Earth mortgage" mess in the second half is particularly relevant today.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, please. Hubbard was a generic pulp fiction writer, distinguishable only by the volume of his work and the number of genres he crossed. Occasionally he ran across a clever idea, but he was never a good writer. Battlefield Earth is an overly long, simplistic piece of unoriginal hack writing. On a sentence-by-sentence basis, it's some of the worst prose ever to appear in print (let's not forget the use of more exclamation points in one volume than in the average-sized library!) It was, I'll admit, moderately entertaining while it lasted, but seriously, it was a piece of crap.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[hazydave]

I have read a few L. R. Hubbard books -- always found them pretty schlocky. Thus, only the few, while I have read most if not everything from others of that era: Clarke, Asimov, Herbert, Zelazny, Ellison, etc.

As far as Scientology goes, there are plenty of rumors. It's pretty clear that Hubbard started with Dianetics. He lost control of Dianetics when he had to sell out interest in the business to pay back taxes. Oops. So why not turn it into a religion? That way, there are no taxes to pay, and as the figurehead, Hubbard couldn't be ousted from control.

Personally, I accept Ellison's account of the origins, since he's actually discussed it:

Scientology is bullshit! Man, I was there the night L. Ron Hubbard invented it, for Christ's sakes! ... We were sitting around one night... who else was there? Alfred Bester, and Cyril Kornbluth, and Lester del Rey, and Ron Hubbard, who was making a penny a word, and had been for years. And he said "This bullshit's got to stop!" He says, "I gotta get money." He says, "I want to get rich". And somebody said, "why don't you invent a new religion? They're always big." We were clowning! You know, "Become Elmer Gantry! You'll make a fortune!" He says, "I'm going to do it." Full transcript here: http://www.islets.net/faq.html#Anchor-Was-47857

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Darby]

Did you use to work with Deadstick? I think he was talking about you :-)

Re:J. K. Rowling

[RedBear]

I remember that Frank Herbert took part in that bet too, hence Dune having the religious theme. I forget which work Heinlein wrote as part of the bet.

Stranger in a Strange Land, of course. With Mike the Martian as Christ figure.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

My grandfather wrote Ultra-Psychonics: how to work miracles with the limitless power of psycho-atomic energy as an "answer" to L. Ron Hubbard when he saw how much money Dianetics was making. Sadly, some people didn't get the joke and it was translated into 9 languages.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh fuck off. Let me guess, you're part of the 80% Christian majority in the US that's being oppressed?

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Truedat]

My stance is anti bigotry, not pro Christianity. But that would be lost on cowards such as yourself.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Eponymous Hero]

you'll have to explain that one to me.

Re:J. K. Rowling

[DiEx-15]

You failed LOL

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

Are you trying to get Slash/Dot sued?

Re:J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous Coward]

He could have read "Destination earth", all 25 or so volumes of stupid shit. Probably another one of Hubbard bets - I guess he bet he can write the longest SF story ever. He won that one too.

Kilgore Trout.

[some old guy]

And so it goes.

Re:Kilgore Trout.

[rgknox]

Well played.

Re:Kilgore Trout.

[baxrob]

Vonnegut said Trout was based on Theodore Sturgeon, and if you ask me Sturgeon belongs on the list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilgore_Trout#Origins_of_the_character

Re:Kilgore Trout.

[DadLeopard]

If I remember rightly Kilgore Trout was a Philip José Farmer pen name for his book Venus on the Half Shell.

Re:Kilgore Trout.

[Anonymous Coward]

Have you actually read "Venus on the Half-Shell"? It's brilliant.

Re:Kilgore Trout.

[Taed]

I have, but didn't think much of it. The best that I can say is that it's a great title, interesting cover, and, unfortunately, was what I expected from a Kilgore Trout novel.

Daniel Suarez

[Anonymous Coward]

Daniel Suarez and his trilogy of Daemon, Freedom(TM), and Kill Decision.

Re:Daniel Suarez

[Anonymous Coward]

Daniel Suarez and his trilogy of Daemon, Freedom(TM), and Kill Decision.

I would not consider Kill Decision to be a third of a Trilogy. It seems to be a break from the Daemon universe, and it ends in a way that naturally lends itself to a follow up. Not disagreeing with you, Daniel Suarez is great, just putting a fine, pedantic point on yours.

Re:Daniel Suarez

[Anonymous Coward]

Kill Decision is not a sequel to Daemon and Freedom... it's an independent story.

Re:Daniel Suarez

[Anonymous Coward]

Daemon and Freedom TM were fantastic. I think they would resonate strongly with a large % of the /. readership.

Re:Daniel Suarez

[Anonymous Coward]

Dude, it's not a trilogy. Daemon and Freedom TM are one story, basically two parts of the same book, while Kill Decision is completely unrelated.

Re:Daniel Suarez

[Taed]

I completely agree,and the two books are fairly different. The first is a Crichton, and the second I-don't-know-who.

Re:Daniel Suarez

[Captain Chad]

Daemon reminds me of Neal Stephenson at the top of his game. I just recently re-read Daemon and loved it just as much as the first time. A pulse-pounding mystery/techno-thriller with lots of actual technology thrown in. His characters use real-world hacks to attack networks and computers, like SQL injection.

Unfortunately the second book, Freedom, was a radically different type of story. And it was too removed from reality to be as exciting as Daemon.

Re:Daniel Suarez

[fineghal]

Daniel Suarez and his trilogy of Daemon, Freedom(TM), and Kill Decision.

Just wanted to point out that while Daemon and Freedom are part of the same series, Kill decision is a stand-alone novel.

Kurt Vonnegut

[Stolzy]

The man who inspired Douglas Adams at an early age.

Re:Kurt Vonnegut

[Anonymous Coward]

Amen to that - Cat's Cradle, for one, is a wonderful book - anyone who has the chance should read.

Re:Kurt Vonnegut

[brantondaveperson]

Now I've heard that, and having read lots of Vonnegut I finally came across a copy of Cats Cradle and read it. Personally I found it rather disappointing, and felt that both Player Piano and The Sirens of Titan (both earlier, and allegedly lesser novels) were superior. I found the whole ice-9 thing a bit... I don't know.. heavy-handed? Dare I say it, implausible?

In any case, Vonnegut is well known, but far from well known enough. Slaughterhouse Five is a masterpiece by any measure, and multiple other works (Deadeye Dick for instance) are equally wonderful.

Re:Kurt Vonnegut

[hughbar]

Actually or anecdotally [you choose] Dimension of Miracles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension_of_Miracles by Robert Sheckley probably inspired Hitchhiker's Guide. Rober Sheckley, Alfred Bester: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Bester [in my opinion the godfather of cyberpunk, The Demolished Man] and John Sladek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Thomas_Sladek are some of my under-the-radar favourites. Also Thomas Disch who wrote the wonderful and increasingly relevant Camp Concentration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Concentration

Re:Kurt Vonnegut

[epine]

Careful when you call a Vonnegut device implausible. As I recall he lifted the notion of undiscovered crystalline conformations of a common chemical from a working scientist, then gave it the ocean make-over. The implausible part is that the substance is water. Wasn't it just in the last month that a new conformation of carbon made the news with diamond-like properties? I recall reading that the new diamond is hard enough to scratch the old diamond.

No-one I know of regards The Sirens of Titan as lesser than Cat's Cradle and generally I would say opinion is the other way around among Vonnegut fans. Vonnegut as I recall grades his own works in Palm Sunday and I'm fairly sure he gave Sirens the same A he gave to Cat's Cradle and Slaughterhouse. He gives a much lower mark to Breakfast of Champions, but it was an early Vonnegut for me and I'm strangely nostalgic for it.

Cat's Cradle isn't really about its SF premise anyway. Every chapter has a kind of trick to it, which Vonnegut himself described as an effort to get a mousetrap to snap just the right way. It was never my favorite, for all that.

Re:Kurt Vonnegut

[rs79]

Adams wrote two Dr. Who episiodes, and if you see them it's very clear it's only a tiny stretch from there to Hitchhiker. They're not like the other episodes, they're like, well, Hitchhiker.

As for authors, Harry Harrison and Robert Silverberg. I read them as a kid.

Also, Fred & Geoffrey Hoyle, and John Wyndham.

Re:Kurt Vonnegut

[mcvos]

Is he under appreciated? I thought he was widely accepted to be the greatest scifi writer in history. At least by this lady. What more appreciation do you need?

Re:Kurt Vonnegut

[mcvos]

I'm obviously talking bout Ray Bradbury here. No idea why I'm posting this in response to Kurt Vonnegut. Maybe Kurt Vonnegut is indeed under appreciated.

Libertarian bent? Pfftpt.

[RandomFactor]

L. Neil Smith obviously

Karin Boye

[Lorens]

Just one "SF" novel, "Kallocain", written eight years before Orwell's 1984. Definitely worth reading for the day when technology can easily detect lies and/or force people to speak the truth.

Re:Karin Boye

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't need technology to force people to speak the truth...
http://www.kongregate.com/games/twistologic/break-chuck-norris-with-a-rubber-duck

Re:Karin Boye

[ZwedishPzycho]

I definitely agree. Kallocain was amazing. I speak swedish, but a friend of mine picked up an english copy for my birthday one year in college, because she saw the author was swedish. One of the best books I had read at the time.

L. Ron Hubbard

[Anonymous Coward]

Duh!

Re:L. Ron Hubbard

[MrEricSir]

But according to Scientology, there's millions of Scientologists around the world who appreciate the works of L. Ron Hubbard!

Re:L. Ron Hubbard

[Anonymous Coward]

We're talking about being underappreciated as a scifi writer.

Those millions you/they speak of are the morons who think it's real.

They're like all those other so-called religious people who believe everything in their own little holy book is the literal truth.

Re:L. Ron Hubbard

[sco08y]

But according to Scientology, there's millions of Scientologists around the world who appreciate the works of L. Ron Hubbard!

But as religious prophecy, not as science fiction. What's amazing to me is that there is even a splinter group that still keeps the faith but rejects the management.

Piper

[Anonymous Coward]

H. Beam. Piper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Beam_Piper

But then he cut his own life short, so who knows where he might have gone?

Re:Piper

[Jake Dodgie]

I have to agree Piper's stories are awesome, far reaching and entertaining.

Fuzzys FTW.

Re:Piper

[hemo_jr]

I absolutely love his Paratime stories. He is severely underappreciated and his tragic death at the height of his ability underscores it.

Re:Piper

[b4dc0d3r]

I started reading him the last time a similar topic popped up in March. The shorter stories are good, but obviously thematic to the point of being repetitive. He didn't flog the horse quite to death, so they were still entertaining enough.

If your point was that he could have been quite appreciated had he lived longer and written more, I have to point out that is not the question at hand. Perhaps forgotten as was appropriate last time, but I think his appreciation is relatively well in line with what he actually wrote.

hemo_jr in the reply which should appear above mine shared your misunderstanding. An early death cannot underscore someone's under-appreciation 50 years after his death. Perhaps under-appreciation during his lifetime might have contributed to his suicide, but nothing I found suggests this was the case. His perception of being under-appreciated, as a possible but unlikely cause, is not relevant to the level of actual appreciation.

http://ask.slashdot.org/story/12/03/07/0056225/ask-slashdot-good-forgotten-fantasy-science-fiction-novels

Re:Piper

[Anonymous Coward]

I read his book, Little Fuzzy, and thought it was amazingly tight, particularly considering the state of the business at the time.

Re:Piper

[Anonymous Coward]

Piper!

Don't let the book titles fool you, they're fantastic. He was more interesting than Robert A, less annoying than Lester, and a deeper thinker than Doc.

I will remain anon lest Mr Drake beat me up (not that he would, but his toughness frightens me).

Re:Piper

[pforhan]

I absolutely agree. I've been working through his stuff for a while now (Most is available on Project Gutenburg). It has all aged really well.

Re:Piper

[Anonymous Coward]

i just loved those Fuzzies :P

surprised to see his name here at all though, i thought nobody else ever heard of him :)

Re:Piper

[MercTech]

I'm really surprised that Hollywood hasn't locked onto H.Beam Piper's "Fuzzy" stories. I've heard that his original stories have fallen into public domain so there would not be negotiations for rights. And think of the toy market for toys.

"Little Fuzzy" is such a cute story I revisit it again and again.

Steven

Me

[multiben]

I wrote a short story in 3rd grade about being transformed into a sultana. My teacher said my handwriting was too messy. I never wrote again.

Re:Me

[Kenja]

To be "underappreciated" there must first be something worthy of appreciation. I fear your teacher may have been right.

Re:Me

[swell]

"My teacher said my handwriting was too messy. I never wrote again."

You were lucky. My teacher said I was smart and my writing was good. She almost had me believing I was smart, but I've wasted 60 years writing in an age when writers outnumber readers.

Re:Me

[multiben]

Ms Macklin? Is that you?

Re:Me

[xevioso]

Your story was silly. Mine was about an epic underground battle between the Empire of Stalagtites and the Confederacy of Stalagmites in a cave. But mine didn't go over that well either.

Re:Me

[RandomFactor]

Should have put in a star crossed romance interest between a stalactite and stalagmite from two warring houses, the Calzites and Bicarbonets.

Could end it tragically with some lime-a-way...

Re:Me

[Geek70]

The ending was gripping, if a little drawn out...

Re:Me

[Anonymous Coward]

I think it was Mrs. Chokesondick.

Re:Me

[__aaltlg1547]

She was probably right. A sultana should wite in beautiful flowing Arabic script.

Re:Me

[Surt]

Best post of this whole story. Thank you.

Re:Me

[mooingyak]

Sir, I applaud you. That was awesome.

Re:Me

[Anonymous Coward]

I am laughing my longitude and latitude off !

Re:Me

[Anonymous Coward]

I wish we could have a "+1 (buhm-ching!) I'm here all week folks!" category

Cordwainer Smith

[Anonymous Coward]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordwainer_Smith

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[arth1]

I'm not too sure. I think mister Linebarger is one of those that are overappreciated, like E.E. Doc Smith and RAH.
Even though they wrote their spit shined hero stories well, they also did receive their well deserved appreciation for them.

I'd rather go with Harry Martinson and Cyril M. Kornbluth.
What, you haven't heard of them? Goes to show that they're underappreciated.

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[rssrss]

Yes! Old Norstrailia Rules.

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[darue]

I'll sign on for this. Rereading the Rediscovery of Man right now in fact!

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[darue]

"spit shined hero stories" - I think you may be misremembering Mr. Linebarger's stories!

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[Princeofcups]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordwainer_Smith

I hate to be trite, but this ends the discussion. Paul Myron Anthony Linebarger, aka, Cordwainer Smith was an absolutely brilliant writer, possibly the most brilliant ever in the field. His stories put you in another place, another time, another reality. Not just a spectator, but a participant. It's hard to describe. And the kittens. Oh, fear the kittens.

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[mark_elf]

Thread over. Also, best doggerel.

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[Anonymous Coward]

And the kittens. Oh, fear the kittens.

That's kittons you oversized sheep!

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[edwyr]

Heinlein is probably my favorite author. I really like the _Lensman_ series.

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[randyleepublic]

He is a true monster, but, sorry, Vance is the King!

Re:Cordwainer Smith

[rkhalloran]

I hope you simply failed to apply the sarcasm tags on this, or phrased it badly, as Doc wrote the Lensmen stories, not RAH...

Subjective

[Anonymous Coward]

These things come up again and again. The goal is always to find that diamond in the rough, that one sci-fi author that you haven't read yet because you've gone through Stephenson, Asimov, Clarke, Niven, and etc. Well as far as I can tell there aren't any diamonds in the rough. There are cult hits, that you have a very small chance of loving. But there's no real broad hit out there that few have heard of, no real wonderful and great author that's going to be like the first time you read (insert favorite sci-fi novel) out there.

I wish it weren't true, but it is : (

Re:Subjective

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh yeah?

Have you read "Silverlock"?

Easy

[Anonymous Coward]

George Lucas

Re:Easy

[countach74]

Dang you beat me to it.

Roger Williams, aka kuro5hin's localroger

[Anonymous Coward]

Williams is the author of the "Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect", a fascinating, over-the-top sci-fi set in a fully virtualized future. The book is self-published as no publisher would take it, and available for free online. http://localroger.com/prime-intellect/

Re:Roger Williams, aka kuro5hin's localroger

[Anonymous Coward]

Dear Sir,

Are you yourself a pedophile, or do you merely enjoy reading the works of pedophiles?

Slashvertisement

[Anonymous Coward]

This story posted by John Brunner's publisher.

Re:Slashvertisement

[Johann Lau]

While you're shilling for the "Author's Guild of People Who Are Not John Brunner", am I right?

Olaf Stapledon

[reboot246]

Way ahead of his time.

Re:Olaf Stapledon

[Anonymous Coward]

Way ahead of his time.

Possibly contains the seed of many transhumanists ideas. Still ahead of the present.

Re:Olaf Stapledon

[Anonymous Coward]

And far and away the most depressing too. Surprised he wasn't mentioned in the other thread.

Re:Olaf Stapledon

[Anonymous Coward]

Way ahead of his time.

Agreed. Stapledon's "Star Maker" inspired Freeman Dyson's famous "Dyson Sphere" thought experiment, an idea that I find absolutely fascinating. Has some very cool implications regarding the potential future of intelligent civilizations (some variant of the Dyson Sphere being a semi-plausible prerequisite for being a Type II civilization on the Kardashev scale)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere#Origin_of_concept
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

Re:Olaf Stapledon

[Anonymous Coward]

"Last and First Men", what a ride

"To the End of Time" -- good compilation of best works

Jack Lance

[Anonymous Coward]

Wrote Binary Dream 5 years ago. That or Kurt Vonnegut-

Robert Anton Wilson

[gallondr00nk]

The Illuminatus Trilogy was brilliant, and his SchrÃdinger's Cat Trilogy was pretty awesome too. I guess there's better writers out there, and more prolific ones, but there's something thought provoking about his work. For me , they allow you to see the world differently and they make you ask questions. RIP RAW.

Re:Robert Anton Wilson

[supercrisp]

I'd say Wilson is over-rated by his fans and under-rated by everyone else. I have picked up his novels numerous times and rapidly get bored--but only because I've already read the stuff he's drawing on, so it's not so much fun a third or fourth time around. But if you're not an English major who's read all the various conspiracy and occult sources he plays with, you should definitely pick him up. And if you do like him, you might also branch out into Thomas Pynchon, John Barth, and a whole swath of Modernist novels that play with the same ideas, including the actual original pretending-to-be-true stuff like Blavatsky's corpus or the various anti-Jacobin works "revealing" the Illuminati, Masons, Rosicrucians, etc. They are a hoot.

Terry Pratchett

[TWX]

Terry Pratchett and Discworld are almost unknown outside of fandom. He's REALLY popular in fandom, but not seemingly widely read outside. And yes, he is a science fiction writer with The Bromeliad...

I also enjoyed Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail. Granted, it was a translation, but it was a helluva interesting story about the third world deciding to invade the first, through mass population exodus. I got to read that in a pop culture sci fi English class in college, even though it was originally written in French and translated.

I enjoy some Piers Anthony, even though I didn't enjoy Bio of a Space Tyrant. The Xanth series is fun if you're bored and willing to read 'em straight through, and like puns. Mute was good.

I read a lot of David Weber, though I wish he'd get on with the Honorverse and with Dahak and Safehold. After Robert Jordan's death I swore I wouldn't read any more authors who were living or at least whose series were still going somewhere and weren't done, and Weber is one of the few that fits that. Dammit, finish the stories!

And Bruce Sterling seems under-appreciated these days too.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Anonymous Coward]

I enjoy some Piers Anthony, even though I didn't enjoy Bio of a Space Tyrant. The Xanth series is fun if you're bored and willing to read 'em straight through, and like puns. Mute was good.

I must dispute this. I enjoyed Piers as a kid, but when I got older I realized the man was just a creepy pervert obsessed with underage sex. Which is all the more disturbing when you realize that all his books are targeted at teens.

That said, the first three Xanth books are good. They were written while he was a starving author, but when he started making money, the Xanth books became a zero-effort pure gravy train for him. He even says so in his famously long "afterwords".

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Anonymous Coward]

The same Terry Pratchett that's been honoured by the queen and is a best seller?

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Thornae]

If you haven't read Pratchett's two early SF works, Dark Side of the Sun and Strata, you're missing out. For all Pratchett's fame, I'd count those two works as underappreciated.

And I've often said that Sterling's The Artificial Kid is like reading alternate chapters of an Iain M. Banks novel (so you only get the one story), ten years before Banks really hit the scene.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Macgrrl]

Having met the man a few times, and seen the adoration of his fans (only red Dwarf fans seemed more manic), I can genuinely say that Pterry [1] deserves all the accolades he receives. As to how well known his works are outside of fantasy fandom, I have no idea. Most of my geek friends has read his works and enjoyed them.

The Discworld books are largely parodies and satire examining various pop culture phenomenons or societal constructs. for something slightly different, try Nation which isn't considered a Discworld novel per se.

Pterry is also an advocate for voluntary euthanasia, having recently made a documentary for the BBC. His interest in the topic was partially inspired due to his diagnosis of early-onset Alzheimer's disease.

If you are looking to try the Discworld novels for the first time, "Guards Guards" is a good place to start. The quality, complexity and depth of the novels has improved greatly over the 30 years or so he's been published.

[1] A convention adopted on alt.books.pratchett and alt.fan.pratchett also refers to Terry as Pterry as a homage to his book Pyramids. It has been fairly broadly adopted within fan circles. Terry used to be a regular participant on usenet before social media was cool. It was kinda neat to be able to have a conversation with an author you appreciated and get direct responses to questions on interpretation or intent of their works. Sadly since the onset of his Alzheimer's diagnosis, he doesn't frequent social media channels as much anymore. He has a twitter presence, but I'm unsure whether he is actually behind the keyboard. He now dictates his novels as a coping mechanism.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Anonymous Coward]

And Anthony had been a teacher.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Culture20]

I enjoyed Piers as a kid, but when I got older I realized the man was just a creepy pervert obsessed with underage sex.

I concur. His incarnations of immortality series started off great, so I suggested it to people. Then in the last few books he started glorifying pediphilia. Made me sick thinking what my friends thought of me because of my suggestion.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[TWX]

So had Al Lowe, creator of Leisure Suit Larry, been, and so was Ron Jeremy...

Come to think of it, just about all of us were interested in teenage sex, at least when we were teenagers...

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Dishevel]

Come on we all know that Terry did his best work with Neil Gaiman.
Good Omens was right up there with anything Douglas Adams ever did, and I loved his books.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Abstergo]

Looking back at what a perv I was for so many years, I blame my avid fascination with the Xanth books as a pre-teen up until late high school -- precisely the most impressionable years of my life. Imagine the difficulties my mom must have had when she had to explain to the clerk why she was buying her son a copy of "The Color of her Panties"...

Re:Terry Pratchett

[ChatHuant]

Come on we all know that Terry did his best work with Neil Gaiman.
Good Omens was right up there with anything Douglas Adams ever did, and I loved his books

Heh, that's quite a backhanded compliment; Pratchett at his best is a much better writer than Adams ever was. Don't misunderstand me: I like Adams. He's clever, often very funny, and has a real talent for the quotable quip. But his books (in particular the HGTTG series) are little more than collections of gags. The plot is negligible, just a skeleton to hang the jokes from, the characters are cartoonish, there is hardly any development. This said, Adams was evolving, growing in experience - as you can see in the Dirk Gently books. It's a tragedy he died before reaching his peak as a writer.

Now, if you only read the first few Pratchett books (or even a few more from the Rincewind the Wizzard series) you'd be justified thinking he's just a fantasy-oriented imitator of Adams. But Pratchett developed a lot over the years. His later books have complex plots and are often built around important ideas and concepts that leave you thinking. Pratchett is also a master of characterization - with a few sentences he creates a distinctive character you often recognize from the real world. And he manages that without losing the fun - you still get those laugh out loud moments. But I think what makes him special is that, while never blind to their quirks and defects, he loves people and his characters. I'd call that wisdom.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Pseudonym]

I have read Dark Side of the Sun and Strata, and I don't think anyone is missing out on all that much. They're not bad as first-time author material goes, but hardly "read it or you'll regret it".

I think he should revisit the sci-fi genre now that he is a more practiced author.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[bungo]

If you are looking to try the Discworld novels for the first time, "Guards Guards" is a good place to start.

Guards is a good place to start. I would say that if you get hooked on Terry Pratchett after reading, then start reading his Discworld books in published order. That way you see how his writing and characters develop and change over time. It's well worth the effort. ... although I have to say that I'm biased. I too have met him, at the first Discworld convention back in '96 in Manchester. He is just such a nice man, and so available to his fans.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[dr.g]

Raspail?? I thought Camp of the Saints was not only out-of-print but really deliberately, just short of burning the remaining copies out-of-print. My old copy suffered severely from a long-ago poolside reading but I still have it. A shocking book, probably moreso today than when written.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Rosy At Random]

"only red Dwarf fans seemed more manic"

You've clearly never encountered the Homestuck fandom.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[kria]

Glad to know I'm not the only one - I read all of the Xanth books out (through Golem, I think) as a kid, and then moved on to his less humor based work, and then came to a grinding halt after some of the Mode books, Shade of the Tree and the second half of the Adept series made me seriously question the morals of the person I was reading. Particularly mortifying given his apparent attitudes toward teenage girls while I _was_ a teenage girl. Ick.

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Lonewolf666]

I read a lot of David Weber, though I wish he'd get on with the Honorverse and with Dahak and Safehold.

He is still writing new novels in the Honorverse and the Dahak series.

The Honorverse is up to 19 novels (plus a few anthologies), 13 of those in the main storyline with Honor. The latest one was released in March 2012.
Safehold has five novels released, number 6 is in the works (release planned for September 2012).
Only Dahak is pretty much dead, judging by the release dates.

You may check for yourself here: http://www.davidweber.net/books

Re:Terry Pratchett

[Quirkz]

While probably not underappreciated, I'll agree that Good Omens is fantastic. Probably the funniest book I've read. It makes me yearn for amnesia, just so I could read it for the first time again.

Philip Dick

[Anonymous Coward]

Considering the number of successful movies his stories have spawned, I would say Philip Dick is under appreciated. I would like an adaptation of "The Man in the High Castle".

Re:Philip Dick

[verbatim]

I think, in his time, he was under-appreciated. But he certainly is appreciated now, if not a cherished part of the science-fiction canon. We are fortunate, as science-fiction readers, that he did not move on to other genres as he originally had intended (or, maybe not, I don't know. In some other reality, PKD was a furnature saleman who never had the inkling to write at all).

Re:Philip Dick

[SJester]

Good stuff but uneven quality. VALIS? Also, nuts. Still, Androids, Scanner, Policeman, and Second Variety are enough to be proud of and retire on that alone.

9/11 truthers and moon landing deniers

[Anonymous Coward]

Their "explanations" truly push the limits of the laws of physics.

Re:9/11 truthers and moon landing deniers

[sgt_doom]

But take a look at their first-class proof and evidence ....

http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/7/7/138577.jpg?v=1

Walter M. Miller Jr.

[Ian Lamont]

I read a lot of post-apocalyptic sci-fi when I was a kid, and the author that really stood out was Walter M. Miller, Jr., author of A Canticle for Leibowitz. He's a strong short story writer as well, but he's seldom mentioned in sci-fi lists -- I speculate it's because his prime writing period was in the 1950s.

Re:Walter M. Miller Jr.

[kamapuaa]

Well to be fair he only published a single novel.

Re:Walter M. Miller Jr.

[Anonymous Coward]

The sequel (Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman) was "finished" and published posthumously. It is utter crap.

Re:Walter M. Miller Jr.

[jdeisenberg]

His short story "Dumb Waiter" is an excellent object lesson in "computers do what you tell them to do." Also, "Big Joe and the Nth Generation" hits that theme as well. Both stories are rather sexist (strong, heroic male protagonist; weak female character for him to play off against). But then again, that was pretty much the norm in the early 1950s.

Re:Walter M. Miller Jr.

[LighterShadeOfBlack]

Nearly two. He was writing the 'sequel' to A Canticle for Leibowitz when he died. Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman was then completed by Terry Bisson. Unfortunately it's out of print now so I had to buy it second hand.

Re:Walter M. Miller Jr.

[muecksteiner]

He was a bit of a special case, since he basically only wrote that one full-length book (the "sequel" doesn't really count, since it was mostly written by someone else after his death). But the original Canticle is, IMHO at least, a highly interesting book.

However, it might not be everyone's cup of tea, since it is essentially Roman Catholic Post-Apocalyptic Sci-Fi (talk about niches within sub-genres). It is a story about a monastery in a post-apocalyptic world, after all. And from a theological viewpoint, it is, in spite of the futuristic setting, pretty much spot on with respect to Catholic doctrine. So if you are into that sort of thing, it makes an even more fascinating read than it does otherwise. You can of course read and enjoy it even if you are not Catholic, but I'm not sure how much sense the actions and inner monologues of the protagonists make if you don't have a background in that particular religion. And you would probably miss a lot of the little allusions and Catholic easter eggs (cough) that are strewn throughout the text.

Allegedly, the main reason he wrote the book in the first place was that as a young man, he was on one of the U.S. bomber crews that reduced Monte Cassino abbey to rubble. He later visited the abbey while it was being re-built, and was reputedly awed by the spirit and lifestyle of the monks in charge of the reconstruction effort. Which makes it a fascinating book for that reason alone.

Re:Walter M. Miller Jr.

[danbuter]

Which is still the best post-apocalyptic novel ever written. Unfortunately, as stated, when I bring up his name even among scifi fans, I usually get a blank look.

Philip K. Dick

[JoeDuncan]

He was almost unknown while he was alive, I'd never heard of him until I was an adult, and the only reason most people know about him is because Hollywood has been mining his mind-nuggets post-mortem for decades.

I'm sure the Slashdot crowd appreciates him, but I'd still say he's under-appreciated because he deserves to be up there with the likes of Asimov, Wells and Verne.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[Krishnoid]

He was almost unknown while he was alive, I'd never heard of him until I was an adult, and the only reason most people know about him is because Hollywood has been mining his mind-nuggets post-mortem for decades.

I'm sure the Slashdot crowd appreciates him, but I'd still say he's under-appreciated because he deserves to be up there with the likes of Asimov, Wells and Verne.

Ditto, almost verbatim.

Also, while I wasn't really thrilled about the story, I particularly appreciated the audiobook of "A Scanner Darkly" -- I really enjoyed Paul Giamatti's reading of it. That plus his performance in American Splendor made me sit up and take notice of him as an actor.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[supercrisp]

I have to really disagree on him not being well-known outside of the Hollywood remakes. His name has been in pretty wide circulation for three decades.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[JoeDuncan]

You mean since Blade Runner came out.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[kamapuaa]

Sci-fi writers aren't going to be given ticker-tape parades. The best they can hope for is cult success within the genre, and a Hollywood re-make. By these metrics PKD was wildly successful.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[JoeDuncan]

Under != Not

He was virtually unknown while alive, spent most of his life in poverty and even though Hollywood types have been making bank off his ideas since his death, the majority of non-scifi fans still don't know his name, where they do know the name of Asimov etc...

However, even if I did accept that he was wildly successful by your definition, it doesn't change the fact that he's not appreciated as much as he should be, given the quality of his writing.

Thus, he is still very much under-appreciated.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[Anonymous Coward]

If the article title read: "Most Underappreciated Sci-Fi Idea Person", I'd agree with you.

Unfortunately, while Dick was a fount of new, brilliant and unusual ideas; as a writer he was kind of meh.

YMMV

My personal pick would be Mark Geston.

I also think that Gordy Dickson (in the seemingly contradictory realm of the successful yet underappreciated) deserves a second look by anyone who voted for the (poorly and heavily retconned) Foundation/Robot series or the Lensman series in the Hugo for best SF series a few years ago.

The Childe Cycle was probably the best and most thoughtful - not to mention the closest to who we are becoming as human beings - SF series ever.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[element-o.p.]

Meh. I've read several of his novels, including "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" (of course), but honestly, I found him...utterly forgettable. Sure, Hollywood has had a lot of success with his stories (and some of the things I didn't get in "Blade Runner" made a lot more sense after reading "Androids") but frankly, his books just didn't do it for me. I didn't like his writing style, I didn't like his characters, I didn't like his stories...I just really didn't care for his work much at all. I'd much rather curl up with a book by Roger Zelazny, Gordon R. Dickson, Henlein or Asimov...pretty much *anyone* else but PKD.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[rs79]

"he deserves to be up there with the likes of Asimov, Wells and Verne"

What do you mean "deserves to be" he already is. The fact he produced that volume of such brilliant work is impressive, the fact he was profoundly schizophrenic and was able to write in spite of this even moreso.

On a good day I'd put him above Asimov and Clarke, and they've always been my favorites.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[dbIII]

He was almost unknown while he was alive

"Man in the High Castle" won a pile of awards when it came out, and pile of his novels were kept in print for decades. I was aware of him from reading about six of his novels in a little high school library on the other side of the planet some time before he wrote "Valis". Thus I really think "millions of copies sold worldwide" trumps your "unknown" :)

Re:Philip K. Dick

[dbIII]

No, long before Blade Runner was filmed.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[gl4ss]

maybe when alive.
but now he is one of the grand masters.

Blade Runner, Minority Report, Total Recall.

he is hardly unknown or underappreciated. you'll find his works in any library.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[Anonymous Coward]

The point is Dick didn't want to be a sci-fi writer forever. He wanted to turn to mainstream novels. After reading Confessions of a Crap Artist, I have to say he's one of the most under appreciated novelists of the 20th century. This book, written in 1959, and eventually published in 1975 is a true gem. He has written a number of mainstream novels, all refused by the publishers during his lifetime. He was forced to wrap these stories in the sci-fi coating to be published at all. Most of the original versions are now lost. So my vote's for Dick. He was a sci-fi writer in the end, his true intentions remain under appreciated.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh yes, I found a book of his short stories entitled 'I Hope I shall Arrive Soon' in my parents loft and was blown away. All of them, especially the excellent titular story, are extremely dark and magnificently written.

You get some very strange emotions reading his work, especially some fear which is unusual. You get the feeling he's constantly trying to roll up the carpet of your personal reality.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[Rob_Bryerton]

>>he is hardly unknown or underappreciated. you'll find his works in any library.

Those are all movie titles. If anyone is looking for the books (and I'm sure most of you know this), the titles are:

Movie Title -> Book title

Blade Runner -> Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Minority Report -> The Minority Report
Total Recall -> We Can Remember It for You Wholesale

A lot of people find his stories depressing, but more depressing IMO is a lot of this guy's life, and the fact that he died so young...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick

Re:Philip K. Dick

[JoeDuncan]

long before Blade Runner was filmed

False

His name has been in pretty wide circulation for three decades

2012 - 30 (three decades) = 1982

Release date of "Blade Runner" = 25 June 1982

Three decades ago (1982) is precisely when Blade Runner was released, it is most definitely NOT "long before Blade Runner was filmed"

Re:Philip K. Dick

[JoeDuncan]

maybe when alive

Yes

Re:Philip K. Dick

[JoeDuncan]

I was aware of him from reading about six of his novels in a little high school library on the other side of the planet some time before he wrote "Valis"

Anecdotal

Thus I really think "millions of copies sold worldwide" trumps your "unknown" :)

First, I said "almost unknown" not "unknown". Second, prove it.

I cannot find any references to sales figures for PKD's books, but in his own words (from this interview):

...there is also the very real possibility that if I tried to do the cheapo novelization I would actually fail to do it, literally could not write a commercial novel that would be something that would sell millions of copies

That interview was done in 1981 (a year before he died), "The Man in the High Castle" was published in 1962 and it's one of his most popular and known books. If it had sold "millions of copies ... worldwide", you think he might have known about it. Sure, there's a slim chance it has sold millions since then, but I can't find any evidence of that and we are talking about "while he was alive". It seems you are making things up.

Thus, I really think my "almost unknown" statement (adequately supported, I believe you will find, by PKD's wikipedia entry) and PKD's own words trump your anecdotes and made up figures.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[JoeDuncan]

What do you mean "deserves to be" he already is

I mean he deserves to be as well known as they are. Here's a simple test: Ask a random non-scifi fan who Isaac Asimov or Arthur C. Clarke are. I'm willing to bet they can tell you (at least to the tune of: "scifi writer"). If you asked them who PKD was, I highly doubt they would have a clue.

Simply producing a volume of brilliant work doesn't mean you're going to get the recognition you deserve for it.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[Anonymous Coward]

PKD has been published by the Library of America, so I don't think he can be considered underappreciated anymore.

Re:Philip K. Dick

[robsku]

For me PKD is right up to level of Asimov and Clarke, but it's kinda hard to compare - they are so very very different in their style... PKD for me is more about abstract sci-fi madness, and deal more with psyche than with tech and science, so they are kinda different animals...

Re:Philip K. Dick

[element-o.p.]

I think that was why I ultimately found his books so disappointing. He had great ideas -- as others have noted in this thread, look how much money Hollywood has made off his stories -- but to me, he never quite reached the same level of storytelling that Asimov, Clarke, et al did. As an example, in "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" there's the scene where Gaff tries to kill Deckard in the squad car. Gaff pulls the trigger on his gun, but...nothing happens. Why? Because there was an "anti-ray gun device" in the car (it's been a couple of decades, so I might be a bit off, but IIRC that was the gist of it). C'mon, that's the kind of stuff my friends and I did when we were in kindergarten. Asimov or Clarke would have had some truly clever way for Deckard to foil Gaff in that scene; PKD's solution was just childish and hokey, IMHO. It was truly a shame because the idea behind "Androids" was great, as evidenced by Hollywood's rewrite into "Blade Runner" which I loved, much as I hate to admit liking a movie more than the original book :) He also wrote another book (short story? I don't recall) where a group of people finds themselves suddenly and mysteriously on an alien planet. Each of them has a feeling that something isn't quite right, but they can't identify what it is that is bugging them. The story revolves around them trying to solve the mystery of what's actually going on, and when they finally do, the answer is kind of clever. I remember not liking the story as I read it, but now, twenty-some-odd years later, I am still intrigued by the concept -- I just didn't like PKD's execution of it.

<shrug> That's fine, though. Different people like different things, and I don't look down on anyone who enjoys PKD's work. As much as I liked his concepts, the way he told his stories -- his style, which as you noted was very different from Asimov's or Clarke's -- just wasn't my cup of tea.

Keep it that way

[gmuslera]

See what they did with Lewis Padgett's Mimsy Were the Borogoves. Sometimes being just ignored and leaving they great work unspoiled by hollywoodisms is a good thing.

Re:Keep it that way

[Essellion]

I'm going to add C.L.Moore as under appreciated, then saw that Lewis Padgett was a pseudonym for her collaborative works with her first husband.

Her "Vintage Season" has stuck with me to this day.

Re:Keep it that way

[Anonymous Coward]

Mimsy Were The Borogroves is one of my all-time faves. That and Nightfall.

Robert Arthur

[Anonymous Coward]

altho that might stray into fantasy and horror

CHARLES MANSON !!

[Anonymous Coward]

!!

Daniel Keys Moran

[Anonymous Coward]

Daniel Keys Moran
Trent the Uncatchable is the best character. Ever.

Re:Daniel Keys Moran

[Xtifr]

Vernor Vinge anticipated most of the cyber-punkish ideas there with his 1981 Hugo- and Nebula-nominated novella, "True Names", first published in 1981. But he's hardly underappreciated (though that particular story is), and Moran is worth recommending. :)

Re:Daniel Keys Moran

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm a fan and wondering which book you are talking about. Emerald Eyes came out in 1988 didn't it? That would be after Neruomancer (1984), Hardwired (1986), but before Snowcrash (1992?).

The The Gray Maelstrom doesn't really seem cyberpunk and most of Gibson's cyberpunk short stories predate it. I love Moran's work and wish he'd get back to putting books on shelves but calling him the inventor of Cyberpunk is misinformed.

It is good to see him mentioned here as these threads are at least 90% "well know author I like". People Like Moran and Jeter (inventor of Steampunk), seldom see mention. I suspect Effinger is too main steam for a mention here.

Quite a few are in the weeds

[Anonymous Coward]

There are several that I consider unappreciated (or underappreciated).

• Stanislaw Lem
• JG Faherty
• Guy Anthony De Marco
• Quincy Allen
• Bryan Thomas Schmidt
• Dani and Eytan Kollin (Unincorporated Man kicks ass!)
• Peter J. Wacks (he has a novel where you can read the chapters in any order)
• Margaret Atwood
• Walter M. Miller, Jr.
• Roger Zelazny
• Joe Haldeman

There's plenty more. Harry Harrison is another, I loved the Stainless Steel Rat and Deathworld series.

Roger Zelazny

[Greyfox]

Though honestly he was more "fantasy" than "Sci Fi", I think. Even if you find someone who's heard of him, they pretty much just read the Chronicles of Amber and called it good. His experimental works were a lot of fun. I don't think he was the best sci fi writer ever, but he's one of my personal favorites.

Re:Roger Zelazny

[mooingyak]

Don't know if I'd call Zelazny underappreciated, but maybe that's because I've grabbed everything I could of his. You can usually btw find people who've read Lord of Light too. But yeah, Zelazny's heroes tend to be exceedingly pratical and snarky at the same time, which is kind of fun.

Re:Roger Zelazny

[Xaedalus]

"Lord of Light" is perhaps the best Sci-Fi/Fantasy book of the 20th Century (or maybe late 20th Century).

Re:Roger Zelazny

[sgt_doom]

Damnation Alley, Doorways in the Sand, and the great short, A Rose For Ecclesiastes --- Zelazny rocked --- great creativity, and martial arts and magic.

Re:Roger Zelazny

[Anonymous Coward]

He was showered in awards... the Hugo, the Nebula. How does that make him the most underappreciated?

Re:Roger Zelazny

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, I think the majority of what he wrote would be considered science fiction. The Amber series was kind of an exception, and even that had some scifi elements (ghost wheel). I can't really think of anything else that he wrote that would be considered pure fantasy.

I do agree though that he's under-appreciated. Bookstores don't tend to stock anything besides the Amber series and maybe lord of light or creatures of light and darkness.

Re:Roger Zelazny

[Anonymous Coward]

"Doorways in the sand" was always a favorite. Doodlehums indeed....

Re:Roger Zelazny

[Greyfox]

Well this is the first time in about 10 years that I've mentioned him and anyone actually knew who he was. The local B&M bookstores never carried any of his books either.

God I miss that guy and his writing. What is it about the author's lifestyle that seems to give all my favorite authors horrible diseases?

Re:Roger Zelazny

[Greyfox]

Yeah! Funnily enough, Jack of Shadows and Roadmarks were really my two favorites by him. They were just so out-there, conceptually. You could always sense that he was just having fun with his experimental titles, and it loosened up his writing a bit. The Amber series was undeniably awesome, but his writing feels a lot tighter in those books. He also obviously had a tendency to go silly (*cough*Dilvish*cough*) that he probably wanted to keep out of his amber books.

I think I got my first introduction to his writing with the short story "Unicorn Variations". Brilliant stuff!

Re:Roger Zelazny

[ChatHuant]

the great short, A Rose For Ecclesiastes

Yeah, great story! I'd also like to mention "The Doors of His Face, The Lamps of His Mouth", which is almost as good.

Re:Roger Zelazny

[dryo]

Another vote for Zelazny. He did walk the line between science fiction and fantasy, sometimes combining the two in one work. His mastery of world-creation was astounding. I've always thought that the Chronicles of Amber would make a better film series than Lord of the Rings. And Jack of Shadows was quite inspired, I thought. He even collaborated with PK Dick on a wonderful satirical crapsack world novel, Deus Irae.

Re:Roger Zelazny

[dr.g]

Amen.

Zelazny was...audacious. And audaciousness, as a writerly virtue, covers a multitude of writerly sins.

"Imagine a feather falling down an unlit well.
Now take away the feather.
Now take away the well.
Now take away the falling."

Never forgot that chapter opening...

Re:Roger Zelazny

[Sir Realist]

Love the Zelazny, and he's done plenty of sci-fi to go with the fantasy (Creatures of Light and Darkness, Lord of Light) but I don't think someone who won 6 Hugo Awards, 3 Nebula Awards, 2 Locus Awards, 1 Prix Tour-Apollo Award, 2 Seiun Awards, and 2 Balrog Awards, and has been inducted into the Science Fiction Hall of Fame gets to go "boo hoo I am so un-appreciated" (which, to the best of my knowledge, Zelazny never ever did. Quite the opposite really.) I suppose you could argue that he was still _under_ appreciated, despite selling more books and winning more awards than just about anyone else in his era, but you'd pretty much be arguing that they needed to invent some more awards to give him in order to appreciate him properly. (You could make a case for that, actually, but while he's one of my all-time favorites, I don't think he was _that_ much better than everyone else.)

Re:Roger Zelazny

[Macklyn]

While Amber was wonderful, the first 5 being better than the second, Lord of Light and Jack of Shadows (aside from Dune but Herbert isn't underappreciated) are my very favorite works. I've lost count of how many times I've reread Lord of Light or how many copies from various publishers I own. Creatures of Light and Darkness ain't half bad either...

Re:Roger Zelazny

[denzacar]

He was not unappreciated - all those Hugos and Nebulas testify to that.
He is under-appreciated - as in among those who read Science Fiction few have read his books, and fewer even had read anything but the Amber chronicles.

On a side note, I can't help to think that it has to do with his name.
Most people probably can't even pronounce his last name, and on top of that all lists sorted by the author's name place his books at the very end.
Now... had he used a nom de plume like Aaron Aardvark...

Re:Roger Zelazny

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't think he's more fantasy than SF. He (along with Alfred Bester) were the vanguard of New Wave SF, which was much more concerned with the F part of SF than the S part in comparison to preceding hard SF authors.

I think it's because his most famous work is Amber (very much fantasy) that leads to the perception. I'm biased: Zelazny is my favorite SF author and for me the best part of his catalogue is his short fiction.

Margaret Atwood

[JoeDuncan]

She's under-appreciated as a sci-fi authour because she says she doesn't write sci-fi, even though that's what she's best at and the rest of her work is mediocre.

Re:Margaret Atwood

[sgt_doom]

The great book of hers, turned into a film with the late outstanding acress, Natasha Richardson, was awesome! Looks like a sure future for Amerika, also!

Re:Margaret Atwood

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd reverse that - her science fiction is mediocre while the rest of her work is going to earn her an Nobel some day.
(However, I claim the movie made from her ok novel 'A Handmaid's Tale' is the best dystopian sci-fi movie ever made)

Garrett P. Serviss

[GameboyRMH]

Writer of lame fanfiction and sci-fi genre pioneer, apparently:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19949_the-6-most-important-sci-fi-ideas-were-invented-by-hack.html

L. RON HUBBARD !!

[Anonymous Coward]

!! !!

Me.

[Anonymous Coward]

Me. Although admittedly it's mostly my own fault - I haven't finished writing a book to publishing standard.

Moses!

[citylivin]

Number 1 in print, but he's not the first person you think of!

Re:Moses!

[LighterShadeOfBlack]

I don't see much sci in his fi.

Re:Moses!

[mooingyak]

Sorry but his work is more in the fantasy genre.

Neil Stephenson

[Eli Gottlieb]

Because Snow Crash is the first piece of science-fiction I've ever read, and then reflected that it actually predicted its future pretty well.

Re:Neil Stephenson

[Macgrrl]

I read The Star Fraction by Ken MacLeod in the same month that I read Snow Crash for the first time. There are a number of overlapping themes which make them an interesting binary experience - much like 1984 and Brave New World are different faces of a possible but linked future.

Re:Neil Stephenson

[sgt_doom]

Stephenson sucks, puhlease, with all the stupendous sf out there, must we mention the submediocrities?

Re:Neil Stephenson

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah, good old Neal "LOL what's a denouement" Stephenson.

Really, he has some interesting ideas, but his inability to write an ending that doesn't leave the reader feeling like they've been suddenly stranded with their dick in their hand is a problem.

Re:Neil Stephenson

[dr.g]

Coming from someone who likes to be pandered to by the likes of Atwood, Stephenson will just have to take this as a compliment.

Under-appreciated?

[Demena]

That would have to be H. Beam Piper. The SF community has been claiming that for a long, long time. But I am sure that Clifford Simak would get some votes too.

Re:Under-appreciated?

[supercrisp]

Yes to Simak! Some of his stuff is just brilliant, and he was pretty hot when his stuff was new, but you don't hear his name as much these days as you should, partly I think because of the cyberpunk fad.

Re:Under-appreciated?

[patokon]

H. Beam!!
Little Fuzzy was a great first contact story!
Also, C.J. Cherryh is awesome.
I often look for my favorite authors in Japanese in order to spread the love, but it's not easy.

Re:Under-appreciated?

[Green Light]

I loved the first three of Cherryh's Foreigner series, but the later ones were not as good IMHO

Robert L. Forward

[TopSpin]

Robert L. Forward. An actual physicist.

To those evolved on the surface of a neutron star, you are mere smoke.

Re:Robert L. Forward

[Anonymous Coward]

L. Robert Forbard?

Re:Robert L. Forward

[darkgumby]

In my opinion Forward's writing is terrible, but his concepts/stories are fantastic.

Re:Robert L. Forward

[strikethree]

I read Dragon's Egg when I was... 14 or 15 I think. It was a good book. It was a bit slow in spots but I still recall the story from time to time even now. I have no idea if he wrote anything else, your neutron star reference is what triggered my memory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon's_Egg

Re:Robert L. Forward

[Anonymous Coward]

"Dragon's Egg" was good.

"Martian Rainbow" was stupid.

Re:Robert L. Forward

[thesandtiger]

Exactly that. The writing was awful - I read Dragon's Egg when I was 12 or so and even then I could tell his prose was absolute shit. But the ideas - those were awesome.

The sequel wasn't as good idea-wise, though it was somewhat interesting and if I remember right the prose wass a bit of an improvement (though still really not good).

Re:Robert L. Forward

[Xtifr]

I liked him better when he was called Hal Clement! :)

Seriously, there are any number of physicists who have tried their hands at writing science fiction. Most of them have produced eminently forgettable works. A few (David Brin, Gregory Benford) have turned out to be pretty decent. Forward wrote one fairly entertaining Hal Clement pastiche, then followed it up with some not-very-good space operas, and then dropped out of sight. Which leads me to suspect that his one good book was a fluke, and he really belongs in my first category. (Though that book is worth reading, especially if you haven't yet encountered Hal Clement.)

Now Greg Egan is a mathematician, not a physicist, but if you want good, super-hard, physics-based SF, he's hard to beat. Schild's Ladder has equations and graphs in the first chapter--if Egan weren't a hero in Australia, I doubt he would have gotten it published. The man-on-the-street doesn't handle plots that require some elementary calculus just to follow the story very well. :)

Re:Robert L. Forward

[Z00L00K]

Then you also have Fred Hoyle.

Yevgeny Zamyatin

[PAPPP]

I'll argue for Yevgeny Zamyatin, at least for authors unknown among people who otherwise appreciate Sci-Fi. We is probably my favorite of it's style of dystopian novels (Think 1984 and Brave New World) - it uses a clever mathematical symbolism as a framework for the story, it has an awesome IRL history of copies being smuggled in and out of the Soviet Union, and Zamyatin was an Old Bolshevik disenchanted with later developments in the party. This means it has a little bit different perspective than the similar pieces by western authors, and explains the nifty "There is no final revolution" mantra in the novel.

Re:Yevgeny Zamyatin

[rwa2]

Seconded... my soviet-era educated Russkian wife had me read _We_ ages ago when we first met. Fun times!

Re:Yevgeny Zamyatin

[meliorist]

Zamyatin isn't as underrated as Jerome K. Jerome, since the latter invented the template that the former copied, but Zamyatin usually gets the credit for the invention. Also, while Zamyatin's novella was inspired by Soviet Communism, Jerome's short story ("A New Utopia", published in 1891) predicted it.

Brothers Strugatskie

[avmich]

One of the very strongest sci-fi writers USSR ever produced, and almost completely unknown in the West. IMO, easily comparable with best English/American writers.

David Brin

[Antipater]

I don't hang out much with people who read sci-fi, so I don't actually know how well-known he is. But I've never heard him brought up during a sci-fi discussion, despite his work being amazing. So he gets my vote.

Re:David Brin

[xevioso]

He's quite well known, has had a movie made from one of his works (The Postman, with Kevin Costner), and has won multiple awards. He just hasn't writtena lot of his more epic sci fi he originally was known for in a while. But I wouldn't say he's under-appreciated. Also he just released a new book. Can't remember the name though.

Re:David Brin

[Anonymous Coward]

> Can't remember the name though.

David Brin. It's right there in the subject line :-)

Re:David Brin

[Anonymous Coward]

> Also he just released a new book. Can't remember the name though.

Existence

Re:David Brin

[Anonymous Coward]

He just hasn't written a lot of his more epic sci fi he originally was known for in a while. But I wouldn't say he's under-appreciated. Also he just released a new book. Can't remember the name though.

EXISTENCE. And it gets back to that epic scale - perhaps his most epic yet - that he was known for with the likes of Sundiver, Startide Rising, Uplift War, and Earth. I just finished reading it. I wish he'd run for President... but why would he want the job? I also don't think he can qualify for under appreciated... but his works, his words and wisdom are much NEEDED in these troubled times.
g=

Fredric Brown

[knarfling]

As a kid, I loved many of the Fredric Brown short stories. It amazed me that most of them were written in the '50s. He explored concepts such a time travel, alien visitors, imortallity and power in short stories that were amazing. I loved this beginning (and ending) to "Knock."

The last man on Earth sat alone in a room. There was a knock on the door...

One of his more famous stories, Arena, was made into a Star Trek episode, although I liked the story better. My favorite story is a just a few paragraphs about a many who invents a machine to manipulate time.

Fredric Brown helped me to understand how limited my imagination really was and prompted me to expand it. What is more amazing to me is how well these stories still hold up today.

Re:Fredric Brown

[Smallpond]

My brother recently found and gave me a copy of What Mad Universe because we had both read and enjoyed it as kids. Fredric Brown was great.

Re:Fredric Brown

[A Numinous Cohort]

There's also his short-short story "Answer" (to the question "Is there a god?"). But my favorite (and one of the first Sci-Fi novels I ever read) is "Rogue In Space".

Are Those His Only Books You Have?

[Greyfox]

He has more. LOTS more. You may find yourself delighted to find that out. I seem to remember that he had an article or two in Magical Blend magazine back in the day (The day when I was subscribing to Magical Blend Magazine, which was some number of days ago now.) That was a fun magazine too. If I recall correctly, Wilson noted that if you rearranged the letters in "George Herbert Walker Bush", you got "Huge Berserk Rebel Warthog". Timothy Leary, I think it was in the same issue, speculated that Bush was so uptight because he had a dirty asshole. Leary had apparently just had a bidet installed in his house and was looking down his clean asshole at everyone else.

What was I talking about again? Oh, yeah! You can find a ton of his stuff on Amazon, definitely worth a look-see!

Eric Frank Russell

[aitala]

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Frank_Russell

EMA

Re:Eric Frank Russell

[Anonymous Coward]

Seconded. A warm humourous writer whose material frequently brings tears to my eyes - laughter and sadness both.

Re:Eric Frank Russell

[Anonymous Coward]

Thirded.

Re:Eric Frank Russell

[McSnarf]

Fourthed!

"Major Snorkum will bend the cake!"

Re:Eric Frank Russell

[Reziac]

Geez, yeah, especially _Wasp_. Ooh, that's a fun book...

My list

[Thornae]

If you extend that to "... underappreciated by modern audiences", I can think of a few.

There's Keith Laumer, who was huge in his day and then largely forgotten until Eric Flint and David Weber (and friends) re-invigorated his work, particularly the "Bolo" series.

James H. Schmitz wrote some cracking stuff, which has also recently been rediscovered by the Tor crowd.

James Tiptree Jr. (aka Alice Sheldon) is better known, but still fairly obscure to the modern SF reader.

Christopher Priest has also had recently renewed interest, almost entirely due to the film version of The Prestige, but he wrote a bunch of other goddamn weird, dark, depressing books.

Lloyd Biggle Jr. wrote some marvellous gently humorous stuff - his Cultural Survey novels are particularly good.

Clifford D. Simak is another acknowledged master of the genre who seems to get short shrift in modern SF collections.

But my own pick for Most Underappreciated would be Janet Kagan, who wrote a heap of short fiction, two utterly superb standalone works, and a Star Trek TOS novel, and then tragically died in 2008. I personally think she's as good as Lois McMaster Bujold, and had she lived to keep writing, she might be better known.

Re:My list

[JabberWokky]

Clifford D. Simak is another acknowledged master of the genre who seems to get short shrift in modern SF collections.

Yep. I was looking for his name in the comments. He's a joy to read, and if he seems cliche, it is because he defined many of the SF expectations and conventions.

Re:My list

[element-o.p.]

I personally think she's as good as Lois McMaster Bujold...

That says a lot. Miles Vorkosigan was always one of my favorite characters!

Re:My list

[ChatHuant]

If you extend that to "... underappreciated by modern audiences", I can think of a few

[snipped very good list]

And I'd like to add Theodore Sturgeon (who I'm told was actually the model Vonnegut used for Kilgore Trout) and Robert Bloch (not so much a writer of sci fi as horror, but a great writer anyway)

Re:My list

[Sir Realist]

I personally think she's as good as Lois McMaster Bujold

You had me intrigued until you compared her to Bujold. I've never understood the rabid following the Vorkosigan books get. The only ones I got through were repackaged Lensman novels, and sci fi has actually progressed a bit since the 1930s. Not terrible mind, but near the top of my overrated list.

Re:My list

[Anonymous Coward]

You had me intrigued until you compared her to Bujold. I've never understood the rabid following the Vorkosigan books get. The only ones I got through were repackaged Lensman novels, and sci fi has actually progressed a bit since the 1930s. Not terrible mind, but near the top of my overrated list.

You must be insane, or perhaps trolling. You cannot have possibly been paying attention to the Vorkosigan series, and probably not the Lensman books either.

A huge chunk of the former is Miles Vorkosigan's attempts to overcome his horrible deformities and medical ailments in an attempt to fill the shoes of his father and grandfather (both military legends, in a deeply militaristic society). For a while, through sheer force of will and giant heapings of luck, he manages to buck the odds. But ultimately he fails, and there's fallout from some of the shit he got up to while failing, and he has to painfully scrape himself together and forge a different self-image. Often his own worst enemy is his own homeworld, which has serious issues with prejudice on many levels.

Here, read this Vorkosigan novella (this is a legit link, Baen puts a lot of stuff up for free). It's the emotional core of the series, it doesn't really spoil anything, and it is definitive proof that the Vorkosigan series is nothing like the Lensman series:

http://www.baen.com/library/1011250002/1011250002.htm

There is nothing like that in any Lensman story. Lensmen are the best of the best, perfect mental and physical specimens who are Absolutely Certain they're Doing Right. The backstory of the Lensman universe is a titanic conflict waged over aeons between super-powerful Good and Evil aliens who use other races as their intermediaries. There is vanishingly little introspection or nuance. Enemies all but twirl their moustaches.

The most generous interpretation of your comment is that you skimmed one of the early Vorkosigan books (say, "The Vor Game") and decided that since its primary focus is exciting action and adventure, the whole series must be exactly like that. But even that doesn't explain much, since Bujold in action mode still doesn't read like Doc Smith.

Daniel Keyes Moran

[llib_xoc]

He's a rollicking adventure writer and can be very funny as well. All his works to date are on fsand.com as e-books. Here's an excerpt from "AI Wars - the Big Boost" Trent the protagonist speaking to his boss, Melissa:
Trent: Listen,” he said in a confidential voice, “you tell the Elite Commander everything is under control, and he’s not to worry.”
Melissa: “ ‘Everything’s under control, and he’s not to worry.’ ”
Trent: “Exactly. We like the hardware, and the hardware likes us. We have mutual respect and admiration.”
Melissa: She stared at him. “You have mutual respect and admiration. With the hardware.
And this has trimmed seventy-seven days off your completion estimates.”
Trent: "And the new people, of course."

Get the omnibus edition to have all of them.
No, I didn't get paid for this endorsement.

Re:Daniel Keyes Moran

[mooingyak]

I thought only book reviewers were allowed to use the word 'rollicking'

Alan Dean Foster

[conspirator23]

Foster has single-handedly committed all the cardinal sins that Serious SF Authors(tm) must never do:

Movie/TV spin-off novels? Check (See: Splinter of the Mind's Eye).
Crossing over into Fantasy? Check (See: Spellsinger).
Dabbling with humor? Check (Spellsinger, Glory Lane, etc.).
Indulging a disrespected fringe group? Check. (Furries man. See Spellsinger (again!), Quozl, the Icerigger trilogy).

If there is a scale that measures prolific hackery, with Peirs Anthony on the bottom and Stephen King on the top, I would put Foster far, far closer to King. Glory Lane, To the Vanishing Point, and Into the Out Of are all truly excellent reads. They're not life changers, they're just damn good. He's got a fine roster of clever and poigniant short stories. For old school geeks, the most notable of which is "Why Johnny Can't Speed" which has been cited as direct inspiration for the classic Steve Jackson game Car Wars.

And hey, without Car Wars, SJ Games might never have been successful enough to launch GURPS. Without GURPS, there would be no GURPS Cyberpunk, no Secret Service raid on SJ Games in 1991, and maybe no Electronic Frontier Foundation either. How's that for underrated?

Re:Alan Dean Foster

[Immostlyharmless]

Ugh Why is it I never have Karma when I WANT karma? Alan Dean Foster is my favorite author bar none. I LOVED the Spellsinger series as a teenager. So many others: Flinx and his minidragon Pip, Dinotopia, The Man who Used the Universe. Foster is awesome. If you've never given in to reading any of his books, do yourself a favor and treat yourself to an afternoon reading one of his novels!

Re:Alan Dean Foster

[xevioso]

Yeah, he is one of my favorites. Is he still writing?

Re:Alan Dean Foster

[Cosgrach]

As far as actual talent goes, I'd rank them as follows:

Alan Dean Foster on top
Piers Anthony in some what below the middle
and Stephen King way down in the dregs of the basement.

King is a moron. His writing is shit.

Re:Alan Dean Foster

[Anonymous Coward]

"King's team of underpaid and uncredited writers are morons. Their writing is shit."

FTFY

Re:Alan Dean Foster

[Anonymous Coward]

I have easily read over 60 of ADF's stories and while they are quite enjoyable, I cannot get over how terrible he finishes a story. great character development, action paced story line, then BAM! everything wraps up in 3 pages. ...sigh, a reading orgasm.

Re:Alan Dean Foster

[Anonymous Coward]

King is a moron. His writing is shit.

I'm surprised you're not eating that shit up because your opinion is as full of shit as you are.

Re:Alan Dean Foster

[Sir Realist]

If there is a scale that measures prolific hackery, with Peirs Anthony on the bottom and Stephen King on the top

Sorry; which end of that scale is meant to be the "good" end again?

Re:Alan Dean Foster

[Trogre]

Don't forget the Star Wars novel.

H. Beam Piper

[Anonymous Coward]

Uller Uprising......lots of details and visuals for 1952. And you can dig it up in the Gutenberg Project since its so far out of print !

Hugh Howey

[fixanoid]

If you haven't read Wool series, please do.

Theodore Sturgeon

[glassware]

You should read the short story "... And Now The News." It's truly one of the most eye opening short stories that nobody knows about. In many ways, it's a gloriously alternative view about the sadness of life and the optimism that people can have. Truly one of the best stories I'd recommend to anyone.

Here's the link:
http://books.google.com/books/about/And_Now_the_News.html?id=wpuJQrxHZXAC

Some more commentary:
http://www.physics.emory.edu/~weeks/misc/faq.html

Re:Theodore Sturgeon

[doom]

Inclined to agree about Sturgeon... I sometimes call him one of the "secret masters of reality", with influence in many odd little corners of the world, though most people don't know who he is. Example: he invented the phrase "the prime directive" (for an unused Star Trek script).

There was a period there when "More Than Human" had almost as much "underground" influence as Heinlein's Stranger...

Philip Jose Farmer,

[BubbaDave]

you insensitive clods!

Re:Philip Jose Farmer,

[Anonymous Coward]

I second that. Riverworld is one of my favourite SF series

Re:Philip Jose Farmer,

[bhcompy]

Third. Farmer gets credit from Heinlein for breaking barriers that made for his own success(and Farmer gives it back).

Re:Philip Jose Farmer,

[jjeffries]

It's too bad that only SciFi or whatever they're called now has wanted to turn it into tv... so badly they they've tried twice!

Samuel R. Delany

[Josuah]

Samuel R. Delany is highly acclaimed but I think out of reach for most readers. His prose is dense and complicated, requiring serious concentration to consume. The themes are complex and subtle despite having obvious presentation, and can make readers uncomfortable. His are the types of books English teachers have a field day with, typically to the dismay of students. Also unlike most they are written as and read like contemporary fiction rather than science-fiction. (I feel like William Gibson's newer works are like this as well, but annoyingly so.)

Re:Samuel R. Delany

[notandor]

You actually got me interested in reading something from Delany, I have never heard of him. His wikipedia page lists Nebula/Hugo awards or nominations for his books, what book would be one of his masterpieces to start with?

Randomly I clicked on Babel-17 and its description about the language of somebody forming the way he perceives reality is already very promising.

Re:Samuel R. Delany

[Thornae]

I personally think that Stars In My Pocket Like Grains Of Sand is one of his finest works, but it's not a light read. If you can breeze through an Iain M. Banks novel without too much trouble, try it.

Note that most editions state that it's the first part of a diptych. Sadly, this is unlikely to ever be completed.

Re:Samuel R. Delany

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes Yes! I posted another, then found this in the comments. My favorite writer, period.

Re:Samuel R. Delany

[drainbramage]

And deservedly so.
I would have to vote him over appreciated.
He is my Yoko.

Re:Samuel R. Delany

[je ne sais quoi]

Okay so I'm blowing my mod points (sorry to the people I bumped up) but I just had to jump in here. If you want to read something by Delany, read Dhalgren. My buddy and I both read this book while in college one summer just after the spring semester ended and the town had cleared out of all the students. I had nothing to do for a week except sit around and reading this novel where time has no real common frame-of-reference. Since at the time I myself was in a situation with no fixed schedule, this gave me the most complete mind-fuck I can remember a book giving me.

Many pitchers of very cheap beer were consumed disussing this book and what precisely happened. It's crazy, but it's not so delusional as William S. Burroughs and it's intriguing enough that you keep turning pages and Delany gives you hints and pieces about what's going on as things progress but never enough to completely solve it. The ultimate question was what we ourselves would do put in this situation, in a city where time becomes confused and careers or even jobs become irrelevant. This was one of those books that teaches you something about yourself when you're a young person reading it.

Re:Samuel R. Delany

[Reziac]

I used to read a lot of Delany... all of his early stuff in the order it was written... thus I realised all his books up to Dhalgren (and the next one he wrote after that) were actually the *same* book, simply further developed. Same characters, same basics despite differing details, but each one goes further into the guts and underpinnings. It's interesting to watch him progress, then suddenly (after the Towers) move on to another world. But those later books, I found a tough slog, no longer interesting. :(

Something he said in (I think) The Jewel-Hinged Jaw -- -"No one was writing what I wanted to read, so I had to write it myself."- He also goes over the fine points of language and precise visual cues to the reader, such as using the ellipses to draw out... and the m-dash to cut off--

Re:Samuel R. Delany

[dr.g]

Nova.

More 'traditional' than many of his others (even the early stuff like Jewels of Aptor, Babel-17 and The Einstein Intersection), a wildly creative novel, full of themes, memes and memorably fine writing.

My brother found me some porn he'd written for a friend who was in jail (reprinted in some LA alt-weekly IIRC) and it was pretty damn awesome too.

Re:Samuel R. Delany

[Josuah]

Yeah, Stars In My Pocket Like Grains Of Sand is excellent but was the hardest for me to get through, out of the works I've read. The combinations of Babel-17 and Empire Star are great and I would recommend them. Dahlgren is his most popular work but a little harder to get through.

Yes, i do know

[stanlyb]

But he is so badly unappreciated, that he is not even translated to any other language, including English of course. I remember one scene only, in Paris, when the new emperor Caligula (yes, it is science fiction, and yes, it is in the future), declared the day he become the new emperor (read my lips, killed the old one) as a holiday, and increased the social pension with 12 pens, and everybody was happy, because this one is different one, and he will make the difference, and he takes care of the poor people.........Eh, classic scene, don't you agree?

Harlan Ellison

[Anonymous Coward]

I have no mod points and must troll.

Re:Harlan Ellison

[Grog6]

No, Harlan is the troll. You must know him, lol. :)

Re:Harlan Ellison

[TaoJones]

LOL! Bastard threatened to file charges against me once - I was legitimately passed out in a stairway and he tripped on me dammit.

Re:Harlan Ellison

[Anonymous Coward]

LOL...very clever,. Those of us who know Harlan Ellison's history with fans, interpret your suggestion of hugs is quite amusing. He so wants some hugs. I do love his books and they form a foundation in my SciFi history.

More of a Fantasy Writer...

[Anonymous Coward]

...than hard sci-fi, but Jack Vance is amazing. He has an extensive body of work, with some personal favorites being:

The Dying Earth series
The Demon Princes series
The Lyonesse trilogy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Vance

Re:More of a Fantasy Writer...

[RabidReindeer]

...than hard sci-fi, but Jack Vance is amazing. He has an extensive body of work, with some personal favorites being:

The Dying Earth series
The Demon Princes series
The Lyonesse trilogy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Vance

Plenty of sci-fi in his Gaean Reach novels. Maybe not hard fiction, but generally nothing more fantastic than FTL drives and exotic drugs. IIRC, the Demon Princes fits in there. While Lyonesse was specifically intended to be classic fantasy, the magic of the Dying Earth can be considered as the ultimate expression of Clarke's Law about Magic and Technology. Also vote me up for The Last Castle - genetic engineering.

Re:More of a Fantasy Writer...

[Monkius]

Thanks for this. Vance is among the writers in -any- genre whose work I value most after 30-odd years of reading. I periodically return to the Demon Princes and the Cadwall novels. I cannot recommend his work highly enough.

Re:More of a Fantasy Writer...

[nedlohs]

I like the books, but inspiring D&Ds retarded magic system is unforgivable.

Re:More of a Fantasy Writer...

[dr.g]

Yes. (I suggested Vance waaaaay up at the top of the thread somewhere...) MUCH under-appreciated.

The Demon Princes was so well-appreciated by my wife, that had my daughter been a boy, he'd have been named Kirth. A fine, fine writer.

And his approach to "deep themes" was that there really aren't any "deep themes", just human lives with their tragedies and joys, aspirations and failures, grand vision and pettiness and always, always, from the meanest hamlets of Earth to the Grand Concourse, the innkeeper will try to shortchange you, water your drinks and pilfer your valuables.

Did I mention charming, too?

R.A. Lafferty

[HaroldBakker]

His writing wasn't 100% Science Fiction but close enough and since it's either that or Fantasy we'll have to allow it I think.

Re:R.A. Lafferty

[crunchygranola]

Absolutely! one of the my three favorites of all time. Neil Gaiman credits him, for a span of time in the late 60s and early 70s, of being the greatest short story writer in the world.

Runners-up: Gene Wolfe, and Jorge Luis Borges (the greatest writer of the 20th Century).

Re:R.A. Lafferty

[RabidReindeer]

His writing wasn't 100% Science Fiction but close enough and since it's either that or Fantasy we'll have to allow it I think.

I'd vote poetry. Lafferty and Avram Davidson were as much fun to read for the way they expressed things as the actual story.

Re:R.A. Lafferty

[TechForensics]

Wonderful story of his, The Configuration of the North Shore.

Re:R.A. Lafferty

[Anonymous Coward]

Lafferty's "Seven-Day Terror" is one of my favorite stories from my youth. Awesome, impossible and hilarious. Wonderful writing, great voice.

Re:R.A. Lafferty

[dr.g]

Many others as well...The charming "SIx Fingers of Time". "The 7-Day Terror". with its formidable urchins and laugh-out-loud punchline. The well-structured "Primary Education of the Camiroi" with its graceful and hilarious reveal. Stories so good you can recite them at parties to appreciative audiences.

A teller of tall tales, and American as HELL.

I'd almost forgotten Lafferty, so yeah, underappreciated.

So many to choose from...

[blacksmith_tb]

I'd say first place should go to Cordwainer Smith ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordwainer_Smith ) though I have a soft spot for Clifford Simak ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Simak ), not to mention Jack Vance ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Vance ). None of them are exactly unknown, but I don't think they get much credit these days for having influenced FSF.

Re:So many to choose from...

[50000BTU_barbecue]

How could I forget Smith? Another one of those great talents that wrote memorable characters and stories, much more so than most sci-fi authors, IMHO.

Here's a surprising suggestion

[Grayhand]

HP Lovecraft. He generally dismissed as a horror writer by non horror fans but he's not given credit for the scifi nature of most of his work. There are obvious scifi stories like "In the Walls of Eryx" but most of his stories had scifi themes. At the Mountains of Madness was about an alien race that built a city in Antarctica millions of years ago and potentially created human life if not all life on Earth. Even stories like The Whisperer in Darkness dealt with a race of aliens that harvested brains to transport the minds of people between worlds. The old gods were described as very powerful aliens. He talked about alien races, space travel, dimensional travel and engineering lifeforms with science not magic. The magic in his stories was mostly expressed as alien super science even the spells and symbols used were seen as science. Another story Cool Air was about some one preserving life after death with chemicals and refrigeration. People forget the original Herbert West Reanimator was a Frankenstein like story of resurrecting the dead through science not magic. Yes he was a horror writer but the bulk of his world was more science fiction than fantasy.

Re:Here's a surprising suggestion

[Anonymous Coward]

Hardly "under appreciated".

Re:Here's a surprising suggestion

[Anonymous Coward]

What people consistently miss about H.P. Lovecraft is his creations are ALIENS - actual creatures from beyond the stars. But since they don't descend upon the Earth in silver saucer-shaped ships, they're considered, to this day, "horror," as if they were just mucky lagoon monsters or something. One thing sci-fi consistently has trouble doing is representing the truly *alien* nature of aliens - they would be (are?) creatures completely removed from our entire frame of reference. Lovecraft's "monsters" are better aliens then most aliens in sci-fi, right down to the "sufficiently advanced technology" that us knuckle-dragging humans regard as sorcery and magic.

Brian Daley

[jtnix]

He'd written about two dozen novels before his untimely death in 1996, but an amazing writer with both a gifted imagination and gift for words. I was never bored reading any of his books.

My favorites are:

Han Solo Trilogy: The best Star Wars novels, hands down.

Adventures of Alacrity Fitzhugh and Hobart Floyt: Fun space opera trilogy with lots of heart, amazing back story and plenty of action. Sadly, out of print but easy enough to obtain 99cent copies online.

GammaLAW: Epic science fiction series about a group of super soldiers sent to a distant world that has fallen out of communication with the rest of the settled worlds hoping to solve the mystery of an alien race threatening mass invasion. He once likened GammaLAW to 'War and Peace in space, with a cast of characters in the hundreds', he was working on the manuscript at the time of his passing, and his longtime friend and pseudonym sharing author, James Luceno, pulled the final script together which was released in 4 paperbacks in the late 1990's. Sadly, also out of print.

Other fun things he worked on were the novelizations of (and serious improvements on) the Harmony Gold Robotech animated television series, where apparently he and Jim Luceno took turns writing 3 books each of the initial 12 book series and alternating on the 5-book Sentinels novels and writing each section of the final 'wrap-up' novel.

The tongue-in-cheek Black Hole Travel Agency quartet of novels show how far out he and Jim could go in their world building and plot scenarios, which is pretty far out.

I've never found a comparable author that I have enjoyed to read so much, and I sure have tried. Iain Banks is as close as I've gotten, but he still falls short in the storytelling, humor and wit departments.

Re:Brian Daley

[Plumber, Programmer,]

Don't forget that he wrote the radio dramatization of the Star Wars original trilogy. Of the three, "Star Wars" is both the longest and the strongest.

Re:Brian Daley

[element-o.p.]

Adventures of Alacrity Fitzhugh and Hobart Floyt: Fun space opera trilogy with lots of heart, amazing back story and plenty of action. Sadly, out of print but easy enough to obtain 99cent copies online.

yes, Yes, YES!!!

Even if you read nothing else he wrote, these three books (especially the first two) rank among my all-time favorite sci-fi-just-for-fun stories. Great stuff! :)

Can we do most overrated next?

[damn_registrars]

If so, my vote for that is Ayn Rand - especially in this community where her writing has become a handbook for life for many.

Re:Can we do most overrated next?

[GameboyRMH]

That's not sci-fi though. Most overrated author in general, sure.

Re:Can we do most overrated next?

[damn_registrars]

That's not sci-fi though. Most overrated author in general, sure.

Well, it is fiction, and people treat it as if it is thorough indisputable scientific proof of the validity of their world view. Hence it could just as well be called science fiction.

Besides, Rand's followers have been taught that it is perfectly acceptable to re-categorize anything they want, any way they want, any time they want. By that logic it is perfectly reasonable to place her work under reference (where they place it), fantasy (where it belongs), or science fiction.

Re:Can we do most overrated next?

[Anonymous Coward]

No way, that's why she's under-appreciated. Just think of what this community might not be doing if it weren't for recognizing her ideals!

Why we might not have the fine quality posts here!

Re:Can we do most overrated next?

[huckamania]

I would recommend the Beggars in Spain series by Nancy Kress. She's pretty talented and has won some awards. It's an interesting take on the whole 'good for society' debate. I haven't read Rand, but know some who have. I don't see what the big deal is. But then I'm a Heinleiner.

Re:Can we do most overrated next?

[dr.g]

Is there such a word as "snarkasm"??

There should be.

Gene Wolfe

[Anonymous Coward]

He is an astonishing author who writes challenging, ambiguous, affecting, beautifully-wrought work.

Ursula K. LeGuin: "Wolfe is our Melville."
Neil Gaiman: "Gene Wolfe is the smartest, subtlest, most dangerous writer alive today, in genre or out of it."
Michael Swanwick: "Among living writers, there is nobody who can even approach Gene Wolfe for brilliance of prose, clarity of thought, and depth in meaning."
Thomas Disch: "[Wolfe is the] most underrated author...all too many have already gone into a decline after carrying home some trophies. The one exception is Gene Wolfe."

Re:Gene Wolfe

[thatseattleguy]

Would mod you up if I had points. And add:

Harlan Ellison: ""Gene Wolfe is engaged in the holy chore of writing every other author under the table. He is no less than one of the finest, most original writers in the world today. His work is singular, hypnotizing, startlingly above comparison."

Re:Gene Wolfe

[Araes]

Gene Wolfe is easily the best sci-fi writer from a technical perspective. There is no comparison. Unfortunately, the depth of his books and their technical complexity also make them difficult for some newcomers to approach. His Solar Cycle (New Sun, Long Sun, Short Sun) series' have entire sets of supplementary books devoted to trying to identify all the hidden meaning, subtle lies, and even Easter eggs of his creations. His devotion to unreliable narrators is a device that is highly under-utilized by other authors, and makes every book into a brilliant maze of layered stories and selective truths. It is almost a bonus that he also writes masterful prose that sweeps you away and breathes life into grim days near the end of time, where humankind spins down the last windings of the spring.

Re:Gene Wolfe

[Anonymous Coward]

That book was embarrassing.

Re:Gene Wolfe

[Anonymous Coward]

^ What he said.

Re:Gene Wolfe

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes.

Re:Gene Wolfe

[SJester]

Dang, didn't see this and posted my own. Gene Wolfe for the absolute utter win. I think other authors can stop now. Wolfe already reached the peak. And the Pringles angle!

Re:Gene Wolfe

[careysub]

Not a series. Like The Lord of the Rings a single novel published in three volumes. And it contains within it two short stories and a play, all of which are excellent.

Re:Gene Wolfe

[Anonymous Coward]

100% agree with this. Best wordsmith I've seen outside of the (non-sci-fi) classics.

Heinlein or Zindell

[Anonymous Coward]

Heinlein is well known enough to be sure, but definitely under appreciated for the content of his collected works.

Zindell, because you've probably never heard of him but his "Requiem for Homo sapiens" is an amazing piece of hard science fiction that introduced me to a large array of philosophical ideas for the first time ever.

For the record, neither had been mentioned prior to this post (the best I could tell). Absolutely subjective, but that's my two suggestions.

Cheers all!

Too many to mention.

[hey!]

I started to read sci-fi in the early 1970s, after the Golden Age but while many of the Golden Age writers were still with us. Time has passed and many great (and countless very good) writers are no longer with us are fading into obscurity: C.L. Moore, Alfred Bester, Clifford D. Simak, and Randall Garrett to name a few.

Re:Too many to mention.

[Eponymous Hero]

alfred bester was great. not very prolific though. he won the first hugo award and then everyone forgot him.

Re:Too many to mention.

[Penurious Penguin]

Alfred Bester was certainly excellent. I quite digged Tiger, Tiger.

Re:Too many to mention.

[Ahab's compliments]

If you can track down Golem100, it's a great read. It's the first Bester I read but seems less dated than his others (to me).

Re:Too many to mention.

[Penurious Penguin]

Thanks for the recommendation. Happen to be a fan of Roger Zelazny too?

Re:Too many to mention.

[dbIII]

He wrote a lot of short fiction.

Re:Too many to mention.

[Eponymous Hero]

you're right. quite a bit more than i was aware of.

Re:Too many to mention.

[Ahab's compliments]

I've read Zelanzy a long time ago, but can't remember titles except "Lord of Light" which was great! Recommend me something.

Re:Too many to mention.

[Penurious Penguin]

I have a terrible memory, at least so far ;)
But if I remember correctly, Roadmarks was one I read. I also read a collection of short stories which were excellent, though I cannot remember titles. However, whilst looking for some refreshers I discovered this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Irae which is a co-authored novel by Zelazny and.....(prepare yourself).....
......The legendary Philip K Dick. P.K.D. is certainly at the very top of my most regarded authors of any genre.

Re:Too many to mention.

[dr.g]

Bester's "The Stars My Destination" was voted (rightly enough) Best Sci-Fi Novel EVER in a poll a few years ago.

Can't argue with that, really. I could make other suggestions, personal favorites, but it's a fair cop.

Neal Asher

[Muros]

Not hard-science fiction, more like ultra violence in a futuristic space-faring setting with some attached storyline. I've only ever met one other person who'd ever even heard of him, but I love his stuff.

Re:Neal Asher

[chebucto]

How does he compare with Iain Banks?

Re:Neal Asher

[Anonymous Coward]

Less political than Banks, but much more violent.

Things tend to blow up in the most awesome possible manner.

Several of his characters rank among my favorites of all time.

Re:Neal Asher

[Shrike82]

I'd say Asher's work (my opinion based on his Agent Cormac novels only) was much harsher and grittier than Banks'. There's less character development, less deep plots and the writing style is not quite as refined. However, I enjoy the work of both authors and would suggest you borrow a copy of Asher's first Cormac novel (or the first in one of his other series) and see if it tickles your fancy.

Re:Neal Asher

[Muros]

I'd agree with both of the other replies. Less overtly political on the author's part than Banks, but does deal with political struggles in his books. Less high-tech than Banks, battles in space in Asher's work are fought with energy weapons but also projectiles and things that go boom. It doesn't have the same utopian setting, the Polity is not post-scarcity and is ruled by a mostly benign but still iron fisted AI overlord who will not think twice about sacrificing billions of lives if it is likely to aid its goals.

Re:Neal Asher

[syntheticmemory]

I've read most of the Neal Asher books published in the US. I look forward to new releases. Ian Tregillis's books Bitter Seed and The Coldest War are very good.

Re:Neal Asher

[Bobtree]

Asher is my favorite guilty pleasure. I would argue that he is on the hard end of the spectrum because it really is about the tech and aliens and AI ruled Polity and so on. These things are all central to the action rather than being backdrops or flavoring, and the space opera generally has some philosophical undercurrents.

Neal Asher writes a huge range of great monsters, action scenes with excellent pacing, firefights on seriously ridiculous scales, parasites with weird life-cycles, strange aliens and ecologies, and is just unreasonably fun to read. If he has a fault, it's underdeveloped villains with questionable motivations, but I'm happy to overlook them and get on with the good stuff.

Try Adaptogenic for an introductory Asher fix: http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/adaptogenic.htm

Re:Neal Asher

[Reziac]

I loved The Skinner -- one of the very few works I've seen come close to Jack Vance for making the outrageous and absurd seem perfectly plausible and normal to its world. (And Sable Keech is a finely unique character.) Read some others of his and found them so-so, but someday I hope he'll produce more that compare with this'un.

Re:Neal Asher

[occasional_dabbler]

I think Asher carries on the ideas of Banks and Reynolds, with a complex and self-consistent universe setting. Not really 'hard sf' in that he relies on 'U-space' (a kind of hyperspace) to enable the whole concept of the 'Polity' civilization to exist but he definitely adds his own twist. Like the Culture, the Polity is utopian in nature, but the controlling computer (AI) minds are more believable than Banks' in that they run the show based on calculations of most good to most people/entities so the decisions taken can often result in a lot of deaths and destruction. The level of violence is cranked up to eleven. The last one I read had prisoners of a drug gang being digested by eels to make a particularly strong narcotic and then the leader of the gang being eaten by a lizard in the denouement... His characterisations are usually quite good too. If you like Banks he's worth a try. Start with the Ian Cormac series.

Gene Wolfe

[crunchygranola]

The Book of the New Sun should be considered one of the great novels of the Twentieth Century. It has been aptly described as a work of vast imagination.

Poul Anderson

[steveha]

Most unappreciated has to go to Poul Anderson.

He wrote so much stuff, and almost all of it top-notch. His name deserves to be right up there with Asimov and Clarke and Heinlein.

The Flandry books. The van Rijn books. The Time Patrol. The Hoka books!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poul_Anderson

http://baen.com/author_catalog.asp?author=panderson

His work was nominated for Hugo awards on numerous occasions, but the top names released popular stories at the same time and he lost to those.

Somewhere I saw a discussion of the best SF books to give to SF-hating friends to try to win them over. The Time Patrol books were chosen by several. "The Sorrow of Odin the Goth" is fantastic.

Baen collected all the Time Patrol stuff into one mega volume:

http://www.baenebooks.com/p-428-time-patrol.aspx

You can read the first novella and most of the second one for free at the above link (click on "View sample chapters").

steveha

Re:Poul Anderson

[sgt_doom]

Anderson's stuff was really creative, but too often, during his later years, his neocon tendencies thwarted really good creativity. The short stories I found really awesome were the ones covering super-intelligent races, the one eugenics project, taking the genetic intellectual cream and seeding an uninhabited planet with it, and the other one where explorers found a naturally gifted semi-paleolithic society.

Re:Poul Anderson

[khallow]

during his later years, his neocon tendencies thwarted really good creativity

Well, given amazing works such as Boat of a Million Years and Harvest of Stars, I don't see much sign of this alleged thwarting.

Re:Poul Anderson

[Anonymous Coward]

That's odd. My sister loves him, but I always felt he was over rated.

Re:Poul Anderson

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh my god, I can't believe I forgot about Anderson. I read "Harvest of Stars" and the sequels ages ago, and I really loved them, then I wondered why I hardly ever heard about this author again. Need to find some more stuff to read there

Re:Poul Anderson

[michael_cain]

I always enjoyed his science fiction, but it always struck me as good, not great. OTOH, reading Three Hearts and Three Lions when I was a kid hooked me on fantasy forever.

Re:Poul Anderson

[Anonymous Coward]

Seriously man, read The Time Patrol.

Just don't ever read The Avatar... snoorrre

Re:Poul Anderson

[Mike Van Pelt]

Oh, wow, yes. It's a damning indictment of Hollywood that though they've optioned "The High Crusade" at least once, no one has ever managed to summon up the interest to actually make a movie out of it. Even though it's a straight-forward enough adventure story that even Hollywood types should be able to understand it.

I'm more fond of his earlier stuff, the "Polesotechnic League" stories on the trade ship "Muddlin' Through" than the more pessimistic (and more complex) Flandry stories set later in the same universe. But everything I've read by him as been good, and much of it great.

Re:Poul Anderson

[Anonymous Coward]

Seconded.

Poul Anderson was amazing. I never read much of his stuff until this past year, and I'm finding that many of the SF concepts written by authors in the 80s and more recently, which I thought were so cool and original at the time, were actually thought up by Anderson back in the 50s. At least, they appear in his stories from back then. The man had an amazing imagination for the future and apparently was incredibly well educated and able to apply that knowledge fluidly in his writing.

Re:Poul Anderson

[Anonymous Coward]

Tau Zero. one of my favorites.
Also, he wrote fantasy.

A.E. Van Vogt

[Anonymous Coward]

Great precisely for the things he's criticized for :-)

Re:A.E. Van Vogt

[dpilot]

E.E. "Doc" Smith, if you're in that era.

Alan Dean Foster

[Anonymous Coward]

One of the very first Sci-Fi books I ever read was the novelization of Star Wars. In English class. In the seventh grade. 1977. The book had George Lucas' name on it. At the time I had no idea someone else actually wrote it. Now I know better. Not long later I saw a book about the first contact between humans and an insectoid alien species called the Thranx. The book was 'Nor crystal tears' and I LOVED it. Other books came later; Midworld, The Flinx series, Icerigger. The list goes on.

David Zindell

[Anonymous Coward]

Neverness, Broken God, The Wild, War in Heaven. Great books, and the best kind of sci-fi that paints its universe with beautiful ideas from math, science, and philosophy. You'd be surprised what compelling narrative tools manifold spaces and Nietschean philosophy make.

Good segue

[50000BTU_barbecue]

Here are two of mine:

1) Keith Laumer

2) William Hjortsberg

Laumer really specialized in fast paced, two-fisted adventures that combine humor with sci-fi. Great fun. Try "A Trace of Memory" to see what I mean.

Now for Hjortsberg, he's basically written so few novels that he can't be underappreciated, he's just plain obscure. But he wrote this novel that's gotta be read to be appreciated.

Gray Matters.

The first chapter or so is quite dated, but once you get past that, oh wow.

Is Fred Pohl underappreciated? He's one of my favorites so I think that everyone must have heard of him. Try to find "The Way the Future Was", it's not sci-fi, more of a biography and how he worked with the greats of the Golden Age like Asimov.

Brian Aldiss not only wrote sci-fi, but wrote it well. Some of his short stories are the kind that stay stuck in your mind.

Norman Spinrad? Anyone ever hear of him? Great talent.

Re:Good segue

[Anonymous Coward]

Loved the Reteif series. Then I lived it and it kind of sucks, as a life.

Re:Good segue

[DuckDodgers]

My favorite science fiction story of all time is "Gold at Starbow's End" by Frederick Pohl. I find him uneven, I dislike some of this books a lot. But that one and a few others were, I think really fun and totally different from any other Sci Fi I had encountered.

Robert Frezza

[Anonymous Coward]

Robert Frezza. Best military SF I've read in a while - A Small Colonial War, Fire in a Faraway Place, Cains Land.

Cyril M. Kornbluth

[Grog6]

We're currently living one of his stories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons

I believe Mitt is a bluenose... :)

Joanna Russ

[supercrisp]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Russ She's hardly in print anymore. I think the problem she's had is that SF still tends a bit to be a genre for spotty-faced boys (or the imago form of that creature), while her work was intensely feminist. But she's well worth a read and any discomfort she might cause the adult form of the spotty-faced boy.

Re:Joanna Russ

[sgt_doom]

Prof. Russ wrote great stuff, but just not that much of it. Unfortunately, she is no longer with us so those great short stories she wrote don't get republished enough.

Re:Joanna Russ

[muridae]

Russ, Tiptree/Sheldon started the trend. Nicola Griffith and Kelley Eskridge and others still continue it.

Re:Joanna Russ

[Anonymous Coward]

Amen - I nominated her novel "We Who Are About To...." for most depressing science fiction novel. It's pretty damned depressing. While perhaps Russ is not _the_ most unappreciated science fiction author, she is, without any doubt, entirely unappreciated - many authors on this list are known to aficionados, but perhaps the status of said author is not as high as one would wish. But Russ? People barely know she exists. Probably because she's a woman author and, in the work I've read, explores social issues (feminism) rather than hard-science fiction type stuff.

Re:Joanna Russ

[misexistentialist]

Normal people should seek "correction" from a lesbian/"feminist" pervert/nihilist? Out-of-print and forgotten is the correct answer to that.

Re:Joanna Russ

[supercrisp]

Or people who think lesbians are perverts and feminists are nihilists could crawl back under their rock and let the 21st century get on with business.

S.M. Stirling

[metrix007]

He wrote the sequels to Terminator 2 as a trilogy, which was an astounding bit of storytelling in that universe. I would have loved for Cameron to make a 3rd film based on those stories, they were perfect.

He also wrote Island in the Sea of time, Where Nantucket is blasted 2000 years into the past and the society has to learn how to cope.

Re:S.M. Stirling

[Anonymous Coward]

You forgot the Draka anthology.
A great distopia, one where I'd
hope never to be a servus.

Larry Niven

[jfdavis668]

So many great books. Ringworld, Integral trees, Mote in God's eye.

Re:Larry Niven

[Anonymous Coward]

Niven, absolutely. Just re-read the entire Ringworld series. Better science than most, better fiction than many.

Re:Larry Niven

[occasional_dabbler]

For me his best was "Oath of Fealty" Although he is one of my favourite authors, and who couldn't but love Nessus the Puppeteer? generally his books rely on exceptionally well thought-out and executed physical realities but peopled by two-dimensional characters. Check out the story "Wait it Out" in the anthology "Tales of Known Space" to see what I mean: the most amazing concept but really quite poorly written.

John Varley

[Anonymous Coward]

John Varley and to a lesser extent, Larry Niven.

Donald Kingsbury

[hemo_jr]

_Courtship Rite_ is amazingly good. "Shipwright" and "To Bring in the Steel" are also top-tier. He just didn't write enough.

And if this audience here is actually Libertarian, he would have been mentioned well before now.

Re:Donald Kingsbury

[50000BTU_barbecue]

Have you read Psychohistorical Crisis? I can't decide if it's nuts or genius, but as usual with Kingsbury, very well written.

Re:Donald Kingsbury

[Xtifr]

Agreed; Courtship Rite is an amazingly underappreciated book, though the whole "everybody is into cannibalism" thing probably put some people off, even though it was thoroughly justified by the setting. I really loved the ways he subverted expectations in that, by having the eccentric anti-cannibalism crusader turn out to be wrong about so many important things. :)

I actually met Kingsbury at a Worldcon a few years ago, and he's a fascinating man to talk to as well as to read.

Re:Donald Kingsbury

[Anonymous Coward]

1980 "The Moon Goddess and the Son" is great, prescient, and (unfortunately) now dated. Who'd believe a DIY autonomous aircraft landing in Moscow, anyway? Great characterization, an actual plot even.

Re:Donald Kingsbury

[ppanon]

Psychohistorical Crisis is underappreciated genius. It blows away the 3 "Foundation" follow-up novels written by the Killer Bs. I love the parts where the characters are trying to use psychohistory to reconstruct the "ancient" pre-atomic history of Earth and get things a wonderful mix of correct and hilariously wrong. The part about getting the astrological movements to form the basis of a democratized psychohistorical predictor pool is also brilliantly funny. That part's about as believable as using the Church of Scientology as a basis for a renewal of SETI, but I think that's the point: that despite all the advantages that would be available from learning the mathematical techniques of psychohistory, the only way to trick the masses into it would be by sucking them in through a pyramid learning scheme that started with something as laughably and easily falsifiable as astrology. The book has more insight into the human condition (both generally and in response to the technological/scientific age) than much high-brow literature.

Kingsbury is a big believer in the practice. dating back to pulp SF days, of getting a strong hook in the first paragraph and first chapter of a book. To get a catchy first chapter, Kingsbury seems to overly rely on picking a good point in the middle of the story, starting with it, and then striping/splicing the first and second halves together. He does it in this book and did it decades ago in The Moon Godess and the Son. The technique seems to disorient and alienate a lot of readers and critics from at least two of his more wonderful stories. I think PH would be much more accessible, more critically acclaimed, and almost as powerful if it was laid out in chronological order as a classic story of the rise, fall, and struggle for recovery of a tragic character.

I don't think Psychohistorical Crisis is a book that Asimov would have ever written because it doesn't really suit Asimov's generally positive view of humanity, but I think it's a better Foundation follow-on than Foundation's Edge and its sequels. Style-wise I think it's closer to Heinlein than Asimov. But I'm glad it was written and that I got to worry the people sitting next to me on the train thanks to my crazed gleeful chortles.

Re:Donald Kingsbury

[ppanon]

I also met Kingsbury at the Baltimore Worldcon ('98). That year he was reading excerpts from Psychohistorical Crisis, which was nearing completion, and I'm sorry to say I found him to be a very prosaic reader and found myself hoping, for his students' sake, that his math lectures had more life to them. That said I was lucky that we were staying in the same hotel and wound up chatting with him in the lobby. I loved speaking to him in person.

Re:Donald Kingsbury

[ppanon]

The Moon Goddess and the Sun was one of my favourite books in the 80s and I still have it in hardbound. The chapter where the main character is made to role play to understand the role/impression of the Mongol invasions on the Russian psyche and organizational patterns is at the same time engrossing, bordering on hallucenic, and enlightening.

My Short List

[careysub]

• RA Lafferty
• Gene Wolfe
• Corwainer Smith
• Jorge Luis Borges

Re:My Short List

[randyleepublic]

This is the best list here, but you left out Vance.

H Beam Piper

[david.emery]

Great stuff, particularly well done for time travel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Beam_Piper

Re:H Beam Piper

[Anonymous Coward]

And he paid the ultimate price for his own under-appreciation, sadly.

Robert J. Sawyer

[northerner]

I have really enjoyed Robert J. Sawyer's books.

I rarely see him mentioned in lists like this, but he has won some awards.

His web site is: http://www.sfwriter.com/

Re:Robert J. Sawyer

[allrong]

You have to be able to cope with his Canadian inferiority complex though One look at his website and you won't think he's underappreciated. I wish people would stop giving me his books.

Re:Robert J. Sawyer

[ppanon]

The Quintaglio Ascension books are well written, and I would recommend them for anybody who wants to introduce SF to kids with dinosaur fixations. However, I found that most of his follow-on books have Piers Anthony-itis; that condition whereby an author takes a story that has enough plot and characterization for a short story or novelette at best, but pads it out with useless verbiage into a novel to maximize earning potential.

Re:Robert J. Sawyer

[Legion303]

Hmm. I thought Piers Anthony-itis was where you pad that novelette out over about thirty or forty books.

Re:Robert J. Sawyer

[ppanon]

Well, Piers Anthony had the disease untreated for so long that it grew particularly acute. (Treatment involves sales of new books drastically dropping from readers looking at the latest offering, shuddering after remembering hours wasted on the previous volume, and saying "Never again!"). Other high profile cases would be Fred Saberhagen (*Swords*), Terry Brooks, and David Eddings. There are rumours of cases prior to Piers Anthony, such as John Norman, but this correspondent has declined to confirm them.

Greg Egan

[badboy_tw2002]

Lots of good stuff, but not very accessible to the masses.

http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/DIASPORA/01/Orphanogenesis.html

That's a great sample, basically describes the birth and development to consciousness of a new digital being. The book that's in extends out to a search for life, and an eventual push to escape the current dimension. Some of his books are easier to find than others, and it seems like only a few have gone digital so far. A lot are out of print, so you have to go used most of the time.

Re:Greg Egan

[Jherico]

One of my favorite authors, and I'm surprised he's not more widely read, although I feel his more recent work has gone a little off the rails. However, I wouldn't really call him 'under-appreciated'. His works tend to get included in a lot of collections, even if he doesn't have the notoriety of an Asimov, Heinlein, or Herbert.

Re:Greg Egan

[allrong]

Even for someone trained in maths and physics his books can be a struggle to read. But they are full of concepts that really make you think. I recommend Permutation City as one of his easier, but still very interesting reads. Short stories are good too.

Re:Greg Egan

[badboy_tw2002]

True, he is in some collections, but there's a ton of books by authors I can go to the bookstore and pick up, and very rarely is Egan one of them. I either get something by accident at a used store, or wait a few weeks while it gets to me from a reseller. (I know, the horror, but I want it now! :)

Re:Greg Egan

[darue]

yes to Egan! He's great! MUST READ STUFF absolutely.

Re:Greg Egan

[blackpaw]

Wordy McWord Word. Loved "Permutation City"

I think he made himself pretty unpopular with the establishment, both political and academic in his native Australia - lots of his shorts and some novels are pretty biting in their criticism of Australian policy and culture. As a result he *never* gets mentioned in book reviews here.

Re:Greg Egan

[allrong]

Considering how shallow a lot of modern Australian policy and culture is and how thought provoking many of his books are, this is not a surprise. From what he wrote the only country he's visited other than Australia is Iran, which he chose based upon his interactions with "illegal" refugees from that country, a cause that he is passionate about. Also, I believe that he has consciously decided to be a bit of a recluse. Check out http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/images/GregEgan.htm . I laughed when I read this as at the same time I was mentally scolding my sister for putting too much information about herself on Facebook.

Re:Greg Egan

[Coisiche]

His novels were just ok, but that was never really his strength.

It is in the short story format, however, that he is truly superb. So skip the novels and find short story anthologies. You won't be disappointed.

David Webber

[Anonymous Coward]

For the Honour Harrington series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Weber (Wikipedia)

Connie Willis

[Michael Woodhams]

Author of my all-time favourite book "To Say Nothing of The Dog", a Victorian-comedy-mystery-time travel novel. Other notably good works include Passage, Doomsday Book, Bellwether and Blackout/All Clear. However, as a multiple Hugo and Nebula award winner, she does have a fair bit of appreciation.

Re:Connie Willis

[Xtifr]

Yes, the woman who has nearly twice as many Hugos as any other writer, anywhere, would hardly seem underappreciated. But well worth checking out if you've been hiding under a stone somewhere, and haven't heard of her. :)

Re:Connie Willis

[TaoJones]

Travel back in time, realize the Black Death sucks, well no shit. Sorry, IMHO "Doomsday Book" was an annoying read.

Re:Connie Willis

[SJester]

She's great but hardly overlooked. Maybe by Trek Wars fans. Just finished Doomsday and it was excellent. She has a real grasp on personalities.

James P Hogan

[Grog6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Hogan

The Two Faces of Tomorrow was my favorite.

Re:James P Hogan

[Anonymous Coward]

Agree, he completely foresaw both the internet and virtual reality (avatars and everything) in the early 80's in his Minervan Experiment series when we were lucky to have a TI-99 computer. Pretty impressive.

Re:James P Hogan

[Daetrin]

My favorite is "Voyage From Yesteryear." I'm glad i got to meet him once at a convention shortly before he went off the deep end with conspiracy theories in his old age =/

Re:James P Hogan

[Anonymous Coward]

Strong second! My favorite is his Inherit the Stars. It is a "scientific mystery" story and it will be boring to you prefer action to thinking.

-Anon

Re:James P Hogan

[Anonymous Coward]

THIS! Many of his books are out of print, so that should cover 'unappreciated'. Two Faces of tomorrow *must* have inspired System Shock, and there are many others as well (Genesis Machine, etc...)

Re:James P Hogan

[cavefrog]

Agreed. Not just for his preference for plausible or hard science fiction, but also because of the imagery I still have in my head from Cradle Of Saturn. That's one book I would really like to see made into a movie.

Re:James P Hogan

[Anonymous Coward]

Derivative and mediocre.

Re:James P Hogan

[Anonymous Coward]

I loved his books. His later ones got a little odd, but he wrote a ton of good stuff.

Re:James P Hogan

[rwise2112]

Strong second! My favorite is his Inherit the Stars. It is a "scientific mystery" story and it will be boring to you prefer action to thinking.

-Anon

Love this one! Great the way he throws in physical facts about the moon and makes them fit into the story.

Re:James P Hogan

[Strange_Attractor]

I always point to "Inherit the Stars" as a great example of the way science and the scientific method really work. It's a blast, too.

Murray Leinster

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually William F. Jenkins. Forgotten now, his early stuff introduced a variety of SF concepts now considered standard. Alternate worlds, an internet-like system at a time when computers used vacuum tubes. Sadly, his later work devolved into low grade space opera.

heinlein

[Anonymous Coward]

One of the writers who brought scifi mainstream and laid the foundations for others to get published. He is extremely well known in the scifi community, but few outside it have any knowledge or understanding of the breadth and depth of his contributions. I don't know any modern scifi writers who aren't familiar with or directly inspired by his work.

Next Obvious Question

[camperdave]

Okay... Next obvious question: where can I download their books?

Re:Next Obvious Question

[Scarred Intellect]

Maybe: https://thepiratebay.se/
More likely: http://ebooks-shares.org/
Always good to look through: http://www.gutenberg.org/

Fritz Lieber

[cmdr_tofu]

I don't know if he unappreciated, but his appreciation certainly does not do justice to his talent and the quality of the writings he gave us. A lot of his stuff is available through Project Gutenberg and even librivox.org. I'd highly recommend everyone check out both Fritz Lieber's sword and sorcerer type fantasy as well as his amazing sci-fi short stories and novels.

Re:Fritz Lieber

[sgt_doom]

Just ancient, I'm afraid --- not too many have read his classic short story, the conpiracy stories of conspiracy stories. Plus, there was that entire "swords and sorcery" genre he helped to promulgate, but the greatest Tarzan book ever written, was Fritz's rewrite of Tarzan and the Valley of Gold (made into a horrid movie -- skip the movie at all costs -- but the book was golden).

R. A. Lafferty and Thomas M. Disch

[paramour]

Lafferty specialized in science fiction that was more folk-tale like, or as I see Wikipedia puts it "shaggy characters and tall tales". His short stories, in such collections as Lafferty In Orbit or Nine Hundred Grandmothers, are more approachable than his novels, especially for someone new to his style.

Disch wrote both horror and science fiction. If you're literate you owe it to yourself to read Camp Concentration. His first novel, The Genocides is an easier read, if a bit heavy-handed in its message.

If you're deeply religious you might want to avoid Disch, especially The Genocides.

Twit

[Anonymous Coward]

the OP stupidly assumes people choose an author for his ideology.
perhaps they choose for the quality of literature.

Fred Pohl

[vaccum pony]

This is a silly question. There are many science fiction authors that are under appreciated. By the person asking the question at least. By the public at large? Who can say. Do you intend to interview every person on Earth to find out?

Re:Fred Pohl

[DuckDodgers]

I like Pohl too, although I think some of his stuff is awesome and some is boring.

James Alan Gardner

[wbr1]

The 'League of Peoples' books are great.

Re:James Alan Gardner

[Daetrin]

Damn, if i hadn't spent twenty minutes writing up my post i would have been the first to mention him :)

Re:James Alan Gardner

[50000BTU_barbecue]

I liked Commitment Hour and Expendable. I'd say the books go steadily downhill from there.

Re:James Alan Gardner

[Reziac]

Your list reminded me of Rosemary Kirstein, we should live long enough for her to finish her Steerswoman series??! http://www.rosemarykirstein.com/the-books/

Terry Dowling

[allrong]

Terry Dowling's science fiction could be said to verge on the mystical (and I'm a hard sf person myself), but full of amazing ideas and imagery is so intense that you can see his distant future lands. You *know* they exist, that great sandships ply the deserts of an Australia transformed by a resurgent Aboriginal culture, where Nationals are restricted to the coasts, and where artificial and non-human intelligence struggles to survive. I cannot recommend his books highly enough, though as he uses small publishers they can be hard to find. He also writes horror, and again though I'm not generally a fan of the genre, his writing transcends this.

http://www.terrydowling.com/

James Alan Gardner

[Daetrin]

James Alan Gardner has written a number of short stories (two of the "novelette" length ones have been nominated for both the Hugo and the Nebula award) and the League of Peoples series. The basic premise, at least at the start, is about the "Explorer Corp", a component of the space navy intended to to travel to newly discovered planets and, well, be professional Redshirts. The books are both very funny and very dark. ("Trapped" could be a contender for the most depressing book question yesterday.)

Apparently some other people have read him (John Scalzi says a number of people asked him if he'd heard of the books when his own "Redshirts" book was published) but i've never actually met anyone who's read the books and wasn't introduced to the author by me. It's rather hard to find new copies of the books at this point, but he's looking into getting them republished as ebooks, and of course there are plenty of used copies around.

And along the lines of people who are appreciated but still not as much as they should be, i'd like to mention Lois McMaster Bujold. She was tied with Heinlein for most Hugos for best novel (up until he passed her again from the grave by winning a Retro Hugo) but doesn't get mentioned anywhere nearly as often he does. Her Vorkosigan series has some space opera and some adventure and some mystery and some romance, all excellently done.

And just to throw out a list of other lesser-known authors whose stuff i like: Lynn Flewelling, Martha Wells, CS Friedman, Glen Cook, Taylor Anderson, Jack Campbell, Ellen Kushner, Gail Carriger, and Robin Hobb. And finally Seanan McGuire is still relatively unknown, but her "Newsflesh" series (as "Mira Grant") recently got optioned for film, so if you want to get in before she does become well known now might be the time to do it :)

And all else failing, look at the list of people nominated for the Hugo and Nebula awards, particularly those for best novel. There's sure to be a ton of people in there that you don't recognize, and it even acts as a guide to what's considered to be some of their best work. (Just double check that it's not the middle book of a series or something before you grab a copy and get started =)

Daniel Keys Moran

[JabberWokky]

The guy invented Cyberpunk as we know it (or at least pioneered it), and nobody credits him for it. He had avatars in the Crystal Wind (his vision of the VR net) and AIs doing battle with and against genetically engineered soldiers and telepaths, all set against a backdrop universe of UN Peacekeepers keeping a fascist regime in place with orbital lasers and a greater background spanning the whole of time. Internet addiction, flying cars that nobody was allowed to drive manually for safety reasons, and near future military equipment that makes sense (with drawbacks and idiot proofing). His universe dates back in magazines to 1983, a year before Neuromancer, but his novels were published a year later.

Plus he's been included in collections like "Star Wars: Tales from Jabba’s Palace" and "Star Wars: Tales of the Bounty Hunters".

And almost nobody has heard of him.

Ellison

[guygo]

Harlan Ellison's "A Boy and His Dog" never seems to have been lauded, but I think it is one of the best stories around, specially for it's time.

Peter Watts

[DoctorFrog]

His stuff is dark, complex, deep (no pun intended), and philosophically best described as brutally objective.

You can download just about all his backlist for free from his blog at rifters.com too.

Re:Peter Watts

[Anonymous Coward]

This. The Rifters series was great, Blindsight was good and he did one of the Crysis books, which I haven't read.

Re:Peter Watts

[Bahumat]

Seconding this.

"Starfish" and "Blindsight" are brilliant, dark pieces of claustrophobic sci-fi. I'm stunned that neither has been optioned for movies yet.

David Weber

[Anonymous Coward]

David Weber's Honor Harrington series continues to grow in both character depth and in scientific detail. I've yet to find a sci-fi series that gives such a detailed view of a plausible future universe.

Alfred Bester

[wavedeform]

Alfred Bester didn't publish very much science fiction, but his novels are amazingly good, and the short stories are also wonderful.

Re:Alfred Bester

[Abreu]

Tyger, Tyger!

Re:Alfred Bester

[T.E.D.]

JMS (writer/producer of Babylon-5) certianly agrees. He named a rather prominent character (the head of Psy-Corps) after him.

Sci-Fi writers

[a_quester]

Jack Chalker's series featuring Nathan Brasil is a good read.

Jack L Chalker

[Anonymous Coward]

Very crazy stuff. Rings of the master series is very good. The soul rider series is also awesome.

My favourite is his dancing gods series, but it's fantasy rather than scifi.

Jerome Bixby

[Anonymous Coward]

Jerome Bixby

Sci-Fi

[a_quester]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_at_the_Well_of_Souls This link is to Jack Chalker/Nathan Brasil. #18 in the 1978 Locus Poll Award for best science fiction

Brunner's great, and the two recent champs

[sgt_doom]

Jaysus, did Brunner ever call it right with some of his books,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_on_Zanzibar

Truly, though, the greatest two works in the last several decades are Iain Banks' classic work of incredibly elegant future fiction, Player of Games (although all of Banks' stuff is ultra-superior, although a bit dark for recreational reading at times), and Stirling's Drakon, a classic sf action/super-tech opera par excellence!

True hacker fiction today is written by Daniel Suarez, with Brian Falkner's Brain Jack, although ostensibly in the "young adult" cateogory, is highly recommended. (Special Flesh by Michael Olson reads like a book, written by investment bankers, for investment bankers --- a resounding thumbs down on that pseudo-hacker book)

Re:Brunner's great, and the two recent champs

[darue]

Shockwave Rider and Stand on Zanzibar are ultra-classics!

Re:Brunner's great, and the two recent champs

[mvdwege]

Yeah, that was what got me: the man is acknowledged by the connoisseurs as having written two genuine classics, yet in every SF discussion online he almost never gets mentioned.

I had been wondering about this for some time, and yesterday was a bit of a clincher: if Brunner doesn't get mentioned in depressing SF, despite having written such gems as 'The Sheep Look Up' (brilliant, but oh so dark), who else gets short shrift?

Re:Brunner's great, and the two recent champs

[darue]

well here's one by a guy who's other works swamp this, but this is a great piece: (which is all too prescient) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Spectre_Is_Haunting_Texas something folks should know about, there's a great old radio show called "X-minus one" that did a lot of great Science Fiction productions. old recordings are available online and many are as close as youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6eoqzFd-Ns

Jerry Pournelle/Larry Niven

[JeffElkins]

Pournelle's military fiction is wonderful, Niven's hard SF is magnificent and when writing as duo it's great entertainment.

Re:Jerry Pournelle/Larry Niven

[Anonymous Coward]

Pournelle's work is crap.

Harlan Ellison

[Lumpy]

He just does not get enough hugs. I really encourage everyone to go to his book signings and appearances and give him a big ol hug.

Andre Norton

[RubberDogBone]

Maybe I roll with the wrong crowd but I never hear anyone mention Andre Norton. There were plenty of pulpy scifi stories in her books, along with the magic stuff in the Witchworld series. But honestly, what in Prometheus or the Alien mythos wasn't already done 40 years ago in Norton's Forerunner stories?

Norton's concept of a 'distort' still sticks with me as a gadget I'd like to invent. And I am surprised nobody else has. Or have they? That's probably the point.

Ah well, I may have bad taste in books or something. Loved Douglas Adams, loved Gordon Dickson, Clarke, the "Starwolf" books by Gunnarson was it(?) and even sort of liked Battlefield Earth -but as an 11-year-old who had no idea who L.Ron was or what he was all about. 11yr olds want to read about blowing up planets with nuclear bombs, not about religion or whatever.

Just writing about this is somewhat painful. The teenage me used to read books constantly. 20 books checked out on Saturday and I would be lucky to have them last a week. Now the adult me barely even owns any books. And no, no e-books either. I have managed to make a life with no time to focus and read. Always have to do two or three things at once. Watch TV and work on a computer and have a radio playing. But the big problem is that my attention span is gone and my memory is going. Shrug.

Re:Andre Norton

[sgt_doom]

Hey there! Didn't they do a great series based upon her Beast Master --- some years back in America? Awesome stuff, that -- with great actresses I seem to recall....

Re:Andre Norton

[prowler1]

I was thinking Andre Norton myself. She is not an author people tend to mention very often but I feel she should be.

The first book of hers I read was 'The Iron Cage' and it really captured my imagination and touched on a number of points which are still relevant in today's world. As you state, yes she did do some pulpy SciFi but she also did a number of great books which were also thought provoking and of a number of different styles.

The other point I feel which needs to be mentioned is the fact that she released her books under the pseudonym of Andre Norton, due to the difficulty of women writers of SciFi being taken seriously by both the publishing houses and the audience of the times.

Re:Andre Norton

[Xtifr]

I never much cared for her fantasy, but her SF holds up surprisingly well. I went back and tried to read some of the YA SF I read as a kid, and most of it (Asimov, Heinlein, etc.) was hard to choke down. Norton's stuff was a notable exception, at least for me.

Re:Andre Norton

[element-o.p.]

Ah well, I may have bad taste in books or something. Loved Douglas Adams, loved Gordon Dickson, Clarke...

I share your taste, then :)

I loved Andre Norton when I was a kid (wasn't she the one who wrote the series of stories about the silver-haired crew of a freighter ship who were telepathic...one of them telepathically became a wolf for a while or something like that...it's been a while, and the details are fuzzy now, but I remember enjoying the series enough to read it again a few years later), and ditto for Adams, Dickson and Clarke.

Daniel Keys Moran

[Anonymous Coward]

Great stuff.

No way --- Culture far more intellectually elegant

[Anonymous Coward]

Nope, you are seriously incorrect on that one.

sgt_doom (kicked me off???)

outright British Socialist writers

[LionKimbro]

Now, given the normally U.S. libertarian bent of the Slashdot audience, it is understandable that an outright British Socialist writer like Brunner would get short shrift, ...

I know, right? The U.S. Libertarians were all too busy citing George Orwell, 1984..!

Re:outright British Socialist writers

[Anonymous Coward]

Not to mention China Mieville...

Re:outright British Socialist writers

[mvdwege]

Oh come on, you know just as well as I do that George Orwell has been hijacked as strictly anti-Commie propaganda since the Cold War days. I expect that half of the teenage libertarian crowd here doesn't even know Orwell was a Socialist.

Alexi Panshin

[Anonymous Coward]

Rite of Passage started me on SF.

You can't go past a lovable furry toad in the Thurb Novels.

Re:Alexi Panshin

[Anonymous Coward]

Rite of Passage and his series that began with the Star Well were great. I've long hoped that The Universal Pantograph might see the light of day.

Re:Alexi Panshin

[bargainsale]

I was scrolling down to see if anyone had beaten me to Alexei Panshin. Drat.

"Rite of Passage" is one of the great science fiction novels. There isn't anything very groundbreaking from the science angle but the characterisation and plot are brilliant.

My teenage daughter assumed that Panshin must be female because his teenage girl protagonist is so believable. Her gradual (partial) transcending of her own cultural blindness is excellently done, and the way Panshin manages to use her as a highly sympathetic POV character from what turns out to be a really quite disturbing culture is done with a lot of subtlety.

Sturgeon&The Skills of Xanadu; James P Hogan &

[Paul Fernhout]

Theodore Sturgeon also predicted the mobile internet in the 1950s and its possible social, political, and military implications. And much, much more. That one story inspired Ted Nelson and project Xanadu and Hypertext (so, ultimately the World Wide Web), as well as many other technologists (like for nanotech).
http://books.google.com/books?id=wpuJQrxHZXAC&pg=PA51&lpg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

Although I'd agree with others that Stanislaw Lem and Ursula K. Le Guin are awesome.

And my person favorite is James P. Hogan, who predicted the difficulties with a transition from scarcity thinking to abundance thinking:
http://www.jamesphogan.com/books/info.php?titleID=29&cmd=summary
"In the meantime, Earth went through a dodgy period, but managed in the end to muddle through. The fun begins when a generation ship housing a population of thousands arrives to "reclaim" the colony on behalf of the repressive, authoritarian regime that emerged following the crisis period. The Mayflower II brings with it all the tried and tested apparatus for bringing a recalcitrant population to heel: authority, with its power structure and symbolism, to impress; commercial institutions with the promise of wealth and possessions, to tempt and ensnare; a religious presence, to awe and instill duty and obedience; and if all else fails, armed military force to compel. But what happens when these methods encounter a population that has never been conditioned to respond?
    The book has an interesting corollary. Around about the mid eighties, I received a letter notifying me that the story had been serialized in an underground Polish s.f. magazine. They hadn't exactly "stolen" it, the publishers explained, but had credited zlotys to an account in my name there, so if I ever decided to take a holiday in Poland the expenses would be covered (there was no exchange mechanism with Western currencies at that time). Then the story started surfacing in other countries of Eastern Europe, by all accounts to an enthusiastic reception. What they liked there, apparently, was the updated "Ghandiesque" formula on how bring down an oppressive regime when it's got all the guns. And a couple of years later, they were all doing it!"

libertarianism, socialism not mutually exclusive

[PJ6]

Now, given the normally U.S. libertarian bent of the Slashdot audience, it is understandable that an outright British Socialist writer like Brunner would get short shrift, but it got me thinking: what Sci-fi writers do you know that are, in your opinion, vastly underappreciated?"

Libertarianism is a political philosophy, socialism is an economic system. One does preclude the other, nor are they related.

Brin loves that Cheney-Bush 9/11 conspiracy theory

[sgt_doom]

.... which pretty much sums up the level of advanced physics education in the USA!

Ursula K. LeGuin.

[genus_001]

The Left Hand of Darkness is a fantastic book, from a great series about the Hainish Cycle.

Fox News

[Anonymous Coward]

What about Fox News's content editors. They might not right novels, but the alternate reality game they've been running for years now has been quite enthralling, and they've managed to bring a vast fictional universe to the sorts of people who'd generally never pick up a book. Apparently, some people even think they can see some truth in it.

Red his DRAKON

[sgt_doom]

... a massive must-read, Drakon --- first-rate sf entertainment!

ohh. lots!

[incy_webb]

Daniel Galouye Richard MacKenna J. T. McIntosh A.E. van Vogt Cyril Kornbluth Henry Kuttner C. L. Moore James H. Schmitz Cordwainer Smith

Philip Wylie & Edwin Balmer

[Anonymous Coward]

When Worlds collide and After Worlds Collide are the one that I never see mentioned - a bit dated though with the east/west bad guys/good guys.

Cheers, Liam

Arkady & Boris Strugatsky

[Penurious Penguin]

Arkady and Boris Strugatsky are as good as it gets. I could've had Hugh Hefner and all subordinates beating furiously upon my door, but with Strugatsky and a few Warsteiner dunkels, nothing could stop me until the final word. I was thrilled.
PS: Thanks Kolyma!

Re:Arkady & Boris Strugatsky

[darue]

Arkady and Boris Strugatsky, good reminder, thanks... I haven't been able to get my hands on any of their work, but it does sound interesting

Re:Harlan Ellison -- maximus!

[sgt_doom]

LOL --- good one, as he is one of the most complaining creative genius mofos out there --- Demon With a Glass Hand (one of the earliest Outer Limits shows starring Robert Culp and some really great actress whose name I always forget) truly ruined SF for me for many, many years --- once you've seen such an awesomely futuristic sf classic, way back when, nothing came forward for many years even remotely comparable.!

Kevin O'Donnell

[k2backhoe]

Loved the Journeys series

Re:Kevin O'Donnell

[Essellion]

Mayflies was really good, about a generation colony ship run by a brain-computer.

I think his most chilling was War of Omission which was based on a device that could remove things from space-time entirely, so that they never existed. Not even a memory is left behind. Brrr.

James White

[Anonymous Coward]

Rather common name so search for James White, Sector General instead.

Re:James White

[Z00L00K]

Thanks! His books are providing a perspective that stands out and the only comparable author with a similar perspective is Murray Leinster.

Other authors that I feel are under-appreciated:
Øyvind Myhre
Bertil Mårtensson
Mike Resnick
Iain M Banks
Richard Morgan
Piers Anthony
Jack Vance
Christopher Anvil
Björn Kurtén
Leigh Brackett
Karel Capek
Roald Dahl
Steven Gould
John M Harrison
A.A. Attanasio
Franz Kafka (If you have the stamina, no wonder that people refer to him when describing public services)
Henry Kuttner
Keith Laumer
Fritz Leiber
Ken MacLeod
Jack McDevitt
John Scalzi (See Whatever
Timothy Zahn

Re:James White

[Anonymous Coward]

You know how I know you don't have kids? Roald Dahl is on that list.

Half his books are required reading for elementary school, he has a day dedicated to his works, and awards that are presented. His name is also plastered on scholastic readers.

Re:James White

[Yggdrasil42]

Iain M. Banks underappreciated? He's a popular and celebrated writer, who easily sells lots of books. I could say the same about Jack Vance, Roald Dahl and Kafka. The rest of your list are indeed unknown to me, and I read quite a lot of sci-fi. :-)

C.J Cherryh....Blowing away my mods For Her

[NotSanguine]

She's definitely underappreciated!

Re:C.J Cherryh....Blowing away my mods For Her

[Reziac]

I learned more about how to write fiction from reading Cherryh than from all other anythings combined. One of the handful that I do a complete reread of everything every few years.

William Gibson

[tomwish]

Invented a new class of scifi with nueromancer. Still considered the best cyberpunk novel. After all these post and still no mention.

Re:William Gibson

[brantondaveperson]

Which is because he's not under-appreciated, but is in fact quite celebrated.

Re:William Gibson

[darue]

Gibson is deified, not unappreciated.

Re:William Gibson

[SJester]

Because he ain't overlooked. He's a rock star of sci-fi. Well, maybe the bass player behind Neil Gaiman.

All scientific thought is under-appreciated

[AlexLibman]

I'd say all of sci-fi is under-appreciated by society at large, especially hard science fiction, as is science in general. The mob wants fantasy and sensationalist entertainment, and that's what it gets in abundance. The most serious issues that humanity is likely to face in the coming century are ignored. Even the books that everyone has read (ex. Orwell, Heinlein) are not appreciated in full.

And... "U.S. libertarian bent of the Slashdot audience"? Everything is relative, I guess... If that was true by my standards, my karma would be 5, not -1. A few libertarian rants, and you're ostracized for life...

Samuel R. Delany

[Anonymous Coward]

Samuel R. Delany changed my view of Science Fiction, of what it is possible to write about, not to mention how to write. Very very under appreciated.

Ron Goulart

[Anonymous Coward]

I loved his stuff. Scoured used book stores high and low.

Ron's forte was sci-fi parody; steam powered robots (constantly exploding), an extremely horny cameraman who had more terms to refer to women's breasts than most porn authors, werewolfs, vampires, you name it.

Re:libertarianism, socialism not mutually exclusiv

[JoeDuncan]

Ooh! Wish I could mod this up!

One of my pet peeves is people that claim communism and democracy are mutually exclusive. They're not, for the same reasons you just gave.

Randolph Lalonde

[Anonymous Coward]

Self published, gaining popularity organically, and friendly with his fans and readers. Also, alive and well.
You can look up the "Spinward Fringe" series on Smashwords or Amazon and find his work available there, worth the read, and the first in the series is available at no charge currently.

Jack McDevitt

[Anonymous Coward]

Some great stuff, but too many seem not to have heard of him.

Re:Jack McDevitt

[DrEnter]

I concur. Excellent author. Two excellent series (the Patricia Hutchins series and the Alex Benedict series), as well as several stand alone novels and short stories. I've never read one of his books I didn't enjoy.

Re:Jack McDevitt

[Xtifr]

Absolutely! He's the first name that sprang into my mind when I saw the topic. And I've been reading a lot of SF for a lot of years. McDevitt's been a runner-up for the Hugo and Nebula so many times, and it doesn't seem to have ever translated into wider popularity. I'm hoping that his actual Nebula win last year will help. We'll see.

Though I must admit that Space Archaelogy was a strange thing to specialize in. At least until you realize that that's what you'd get if you mixed Indiana Jones with Star Wars. :)

Re:Jack McDevitt

[DuckDodgers]

I enjoy his writings a lot, but they're just very good mystery novels with a few science fiction concept novelties set in space. I like them, I own most of them, but I wouldn't consider McDevitt groundbreaking in any way.

Re:Jack McDevitt

[SJester]

I don't know. Not so thrilled with the Academy (Hutchins) series, and the Benedict novels have become formulaic. The first four were great but I'm afraid he's beginning to just churn. How about the Miles Vorkosigan books by Bujold? Also an iconic and charismatic protagonist who rarely fights his own battles, but with a much higher tempo. And the entire series from beginning to end, including short stories, does not sag at all.

Re:Jack McDevitt

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd say there is. He provides _so much_ of excellent education of complex, non-trivial, highly controversial or inconvenient subjects and concepts - so subtly, almost invisibly, non-intrisuively, behind the cloud of excellent entertainment! This really keeps him ahead of cost of the crowd. What keeps him behind, unfortunately, is somewhat random quality of his books. No "total disasters" - but only a couple would qualify in my eyes for true masterpieces, while most others are - well, pretty good overall.

Either Gates or Balmer

[Anonymous Coward]

Those 2 guys have put out more science fiction as press releases than anyone else in the world.
I'm still waiting for those awesome file systems promised in 1996. xfat ain't it, that's for damn sure.

moorcock

[iamnobody2]

Michael Moorcock, hands down. He wrote mostly fantasy, but a fair amount of scifi too. The Dancers At The End Of Time series, the Jerry Cornelious books, the Nomad Of The Time Stream series, all unique and different, yet all tied to each other. Moorcock has won plenty of awards, I just don't think anyone gives him proper credit anymore.

Re:moorcock

[Monkius]

Fair assessment. Moorcock and Farmer uniquely understood early pulp science fiction and made amazing contributions in their own right.

James P Hogan

[CoderFool]

one of the better hard sci-fi writers.

Connie Willis

[Will.Woodhull]

Lincoln's Dreams. To Say Nothing of the Dog. TheDoomsday Book. Passage. Etc. Oodles of Nebula and Hugo awards, but her name rarely comes up in general discussions about sci-fi. So despite her literary successes, she qualifies as underappreciated (in the Slashdot venue).

Stanley G. Weinbaum

[Anonymous Coward]

Probably the first guy to write about a human-level intelligence that didn't think like a human.

Jack L. Chalker

[Anonymous Coward]

The Four Lords of the Diamond, the Well of Souls series, and more...

Sir Fred Hoyle

[Sean_Inconsequential]

The Black Cloud is one of my favorite novels ever, and it appears to be out of print, at least in the States. October the First Is Too Late was quite an interesting idea, though I think I like it more in retrospect than I did as I was reading it.

Al Gore?

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, that's right, you asked for 'sicence' fiction.

Or vagina?

Edgar Allan Poe

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm surprised no one mentioned "The Unparalleled Adventure of One Hans Pfaall", what I believe is one of the earliest detailed descriptions of a trip to the moon. This and other works apparently had some influence on Jules Verne.

HARRY HARRISON FOR LIFE YO

[Twisted64]

His earlier stuff is average pulp scifi, but he improved so much. I love Harry Harrison with every part of my body. I held hope that Deathworld might be made into a movie... but Avatar has kind of kicked that idea in the guts, it would be seen as derivative now.

David Brin

[Anonymous Coward]

No mention of David Brin yet?

The six books in the uplift series are phenomenal. I discovered him through Kiln People that I saw on a friend's table...the title made me look twice, ask a question or two, and then I fell into his universes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uplift_Universe

Apparently he also wrote The Postman, but Kevin Costner will not allow me to take it seriously.

Re:Sturgeon&The Skills of Xanadu; James P Hoga

[nabsltd]

And my person favorite is James P. Hogan

I have to second this. He is one of the better "hard" sci-fi authors out there that most people don't know.

Kathy Tyers

[hyperquantization]

...namely the Firebird series. I really like the way she control of information and reveals plot-lines. That and she tackles some very interesting moral issues associated with human augmentation.

Steve Perry - The Man Who Never Missed

[mrflash818]

Excellent Author. Excellent book, but I feel is underrated. Anchor for a good series that he wrote that deals with politics, martial arts, and fighting oppression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Never_Missed

Re:Steve Perry - The Man Who Never Missed

[MagusSlurpy]

I love Perry's works. They aren't very deep, philosophically, but just like The Hobbit or Fleming's 007 novels, when I want just a fun adventure, they're absolutely perfect. "Comfort books," as some people refer to them.

Re:Steve Perry - The Man Who Never Missed

[DadLeopard]

I have to agree, that was a great series to read! As I sit here, I can see the whole series sitting on the shelf! I plan to re-read it pretty soon!

Larry Niven

[mrflash818]

Agreed. Excellent author.

C. S. Lewis

[Harvey Manfrenjenson]

It's perhaps more fantasy than sci-fi, but his space trilogy (Out of the Silent Planet, Perelandra, That Hideous Strength) is vastly underrated.

The trick is to probably to skip the first volume. It's not as inspired as the other two and can be a little bit preachy. Perelandra is brilliant-- Lewis thought it was the best thing he'd written at the time, and Jorge Luis Borges apparently was a fan (he quotes from it extensively in his Bestiary of Imaginary Animals). That Hideous Strength is deeply eccentric and contains some mildly horrifying philosophical asides about the proper role of women. It's still worth reading, for the good bits.

It's unfortunate that Lewis is remembered today chiefly for his Narnia books, which hardly represent him at the top of his game. I'm pretty sure Lewis would feel the same way.

Hugh Howey - WOOL

[Anonymous Coward]

If you want some of the best Sci-fi ever written, check out the indie writer Hough Howey and WOOL. I think there was a slashdot article about him not too long ago.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0071XO8RA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0071XO8RA&linkCode=as2&tag=boxe0b-20

Frank Herbert - agree is not underrated

[mrflash818]

Awarded, his works turned to a movie, and Sci-Fi channel did a remake of Dune as a series. ...I would consider the author as well regarded, not underrated.

Franklin Patrick Herbert, Jr. (October 8, 1920 – February 11, 1986)[2] was a critically acclaimed and commercially successful American science fiction author.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_herbert

Political nonsense

[khallow]

"In the thread on the most depressing sci-fi, there were hundreds of posts but merely four mentions of John Brunner, dystopian writer par excellence. Now, given the normally U.S. libertarian bent of the Slashdot audience, it is understandable that an outright British Socialist writer like Brunner would get short shrift

Or because he wasn't truly depressing. For me, a lot of dystopian stories simply tried to hard to beat down the reader (and punish those ideologies that the author opposed) to be taken seriously. Brunner did a bit of that and doesn't stand out from the crowd on that basis (especially compared to dystopian specialists such as Harry Ellison, Thomas Disch, and Damien Knight). But he did at times come up with remarkably creative works. "The Shockwave Rider" (1975), for example, is a very interesting work, due to its introduction of concepts such as a prediction ("delphi") market and being an early "cyberpunk" novel. That incidentally probably makes it a significant work to any sort of study of libertarian works of science fiction.

Re:Political nonsense

[mvdwege]

Oh right, of course. 'The Sheep Look Up' and 'Children of the Thunder', to name just two, are not dystopian enough for Mr. I-feel-personally-insulted Slashdot Libertarian.

You realise that your libertard diatribe just proved my point, don't you? A point that was made in, of all things, a side remark.

Re:Political nonsense

[khallow]

You realise that your libertard diatribe just proved my point, don't you?

Erm, you mean the post where I admit that a "British socialist" just happened to write a significant libertarian work? That's what you kids call a "libertard diatribe" these days?

A point that was made in, of all things, a side remark.

I obviously don't care. Side remarks are fair game.

I'd have to say that you really don't seem to get what makes a work depressing. I don't know about "The Sheep Look Up", but "Children of the Thunder" was a great soft porn fantasy about children developing superpowers and saving the world (here by making people love them and having lots of sex). That sort of juvie fiction has been kicking around for a long while. It's titillating not depressing. Brunner really missed his calling there.

Just at a glance, "The Sheep Look Up" just is a hard story to take seriously. Even back when it was written, the developed world was already a couple of decades into cleaning up the polluted environment it had made. So the environmental dystopia it portrays (as well as yet another gratuitous bash of the US) is hard to take seriously. It's more a historical curiosity, a preservation of some early 70s attitude in amber. That doesn't strike me as what a depressing work should be.

And that gets me to my main point. You claim Brunner is being ignored in the previous Slashdot article. But he never was in the running for most depressing science fiction story. The examples you give, just aren't compelling.

Re:Political nonsense

[mvdwege]

Yup, we have a real live libertard here.

Two points:

1. There's more to Socialism than state-imposed collectivism. If you don't see Brunner's outright attack on the corporate/state cooperation in Shockwave Rider, but instead focus on a minor detail like the 'delphi' trading, then yeah, I have the right to call you a libertard.
2. Suuure, the way the corporations and the politicians, with full collusion of the corporate press, keep telling the people in 'The Sheep Look Up' that everything is hunky-dory has absolutely been disproven by modern developments (*cough*Koch Brothers and AGW*cough* *cough*Cato Institute and smoking*cough*).

And I'm not even going into your obvious fixation on the few titillating scenes in Children while ignoring the very reason these children explicitly give us for using their powers.

Mart

Re:Political nonsense

[khallow]

There's more to Socialism than state-imposed collectivism. If you don't see Brunner's outright attack on the corporate/state cooperation in Shockwave Rider, but instead focus on a minor detail like the 'delphi' trading, then yeah, I have the right to call you a libertard.

I didn't say I didn't see. I just strongly disagree on the relative importance of those aspects of the story. It's also worth noting that the end state of the story, where governments no longer have secrets (and lose their greatest advantage over the population) looks pretty good from a libertarian point of view as well.

As to your alleged "right", you don't have the "right" to name-call. It's just a privilege you get as part of some variation of a right to mostly free speech. I suppose the thinking reader might wonder why you started with lousy and cliched name-calling right from the start. But that just works to my advantage.

And I'm not even going into your obvious fixation on the few titillating scenes in Children while ignoring the very reason these children explicitly give us for using their powers.

Again. Neither aspect, the titillating scenes or the bashing of the BNP make the story particularly interesting. There's not much else to that story.

Re:Political nonsense

[mvdwege]

BNP bashing?

Dear God, you have not even read anything by Brunner, have you? You're just spouting what Internet summaries tell you./p.

Re:Political nonsense

[khallow]

I read "Children of Thunder". And that General who was running for Prime Minister (and who later dies from simulated exposure to a nuclear blast, courtesy of the "kids") was just a caricature of a BNP candidate. I didn't see anything really profound about that story or even a need to be profound.

Kristine Smith

[evilsofa]

Pick up Kristine Smith's Code Of Conduct, and you'll be in for a very pleasant surprise. Then you'll want to get the other four books in the series: Rules Of Conflict, Law Of Survival, Contact Imminent, and Endgame.

Betteridge's Law Still Applies

[Dripdry]

Clearly the answer is "No"

Re:Sturgeon&The Skills of Xanadu; James P Hoga

[Green Light]

Hogan's "Code of the Lifemaker" is a great read

John Stith

[Sandor at the Zoo]

Recommended to me by Vernor Vinge. Great "classic" SF, but not dated.

Also, Keith Laumer, and Mack Reynolds.

Neil Ardley

[rwa2]

OK, he did picturebooks for kids, but my challenge to you is to recommend more authors with positive views of the future!

Re:libertarianism, socialism not mutually exclusiv

[PJ6]

What I want to know is, why anyone would mod the comment down as off-topic when it speaks directly to the post.

The poster said "...it's understandable that [blatantly false premise]..." and I can't suggest a correction? WTF.

JG Ballard

[drstevep]

Okay, you want to know how many ways the world can end? Pick up a collection of Ballard. Drowning. Drought. Giant crystals. On and on. Each the despair and hopeless of mankind at its final moments.

Funny, this thread reads like "the great writers of the previous generations..."

Bester, White, Laumer, Anvil

[Anonymous Coward]

Alfred Bester's my favorite "under-appreciated" author. One of the first to tackle telepathy - with a really interesting approach in the printing of it (The Demolished Man). He also retold the "Count of Monte Cristo" in a space setting (Tiger Tiger - a.k.a. "The Stars My Destination").

I appreciated the nod that Babylon 5 gave to him (using his name for their lead Psi Cop), but I always wondered how many people got that reference without being told about it.

James White's "Sector General" stories are uniquely fun. Hospital drama, well thought-out aliens, well written but little known in the US. (Might be better known in the UK though?)

Keith Laumer's entertaining too - not high-quality writing, but certainly good enough for me as I was growing up. Never could decide which stories I liked best - Retief, Bolos, or just some of the other short ones with no discernible link to the rest.

Last on my list - Christopher Anvil and his "Interstellar Patrol" series. Again not high quality literature, but definitely a fun read.

Re:libertarianism, socialism not mutually exclusiv

[JoeDuncan]

For shame moderators, for shame. Modding me down for making a factual statement?

Seriously?

I can only surmise I was modded down for the sin of simply mentioning "communism", which the moderator obviously doesn't like.

The sad thing is, I never said I did either, but I'm guessing the moderator thought so and modded me down for it.

Ironically, I don't actually like communism, but it's a simple fact that communism is an economic system, whereas democracy is a system of government. They are not the same type of thing. And therefore not mutually exclusive.

It's sad to see the day when moderators down vote someone stating the truth for simply using a word they don't like.

I get mod points at least twice a week, and for this, I am going to dedicate my next 5 mod points to modding up any positive mention of communism I see, even though I don't like communism.

Least appreciated scifi ever

[Anonymous Coward]

367++ TOP FORTUNE 100/500 (or best 100 to work for per CNN Money) COMPANIES, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, &/or GOVERNMENT AGENCIES USING WINDOWS (over other solutions like Linux) both in HIGH TPM ENVIRONS, & FROM "TOP 100 COMPANIES TO WORK FOR" (per CNN Money 2011):

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38 HIGH TPM & 99.999% "uptime" examples:

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XEROX: Managing 7++ million transactions a day for office devices for its customers using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 64-bit with 99.999% uptime!

NASDAQ: The U.S.' LARGEST STOCK EXCHANGE, Since 2005 has had Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 in failover clusters running the "official trade data dissemination system" for them in 24x7 fabled "5-9's" 99.999% uptime, doing 64,000 transactions PER SECOND (compare London Stock Exchange using Linux @ 3,000 per second)

FUJIFILM GROUP: Tracks data for its imaging, information, & documentation for its products & services using Windows Server 2003 w/ a custom SAP solution on SQLServer 2005, achieving 99.999% uptime.

HILTON HOTELS: Manages 1.4 Billion records a day for customers in 1000's of their hotels worldwide - for 370,000 rooms & catering services forecasts (switching from 6 *NIX systems to 1 Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 clustered failover system using a data warehouse with 7 million rows & 99.998% uptime).

MEDITERRANEAN SHIPPING COMPANY: Manages & Tracks 7 million containers out of 116 countries daily using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 in failover clusters with 99.999% uptime.

SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES: Serves 70 airport destinations worldwide, with 6,500 employees + 110 branch offices via Windows Server 2003 & Active Directory with 99.95% uptime (all while growing their business 30% per year). THEIR PREVIOUS LINUX SYSTEM COULD ONLY HANDLE 250 concurrent users - the Windows one handles over 500++ users concurrently/simultaneously!

UNILEVER: Global consumer good leader, migrated to mySAP on SQLServer 2005 + Windows Server 2003 & scaled UP their operations by over 200% & yet saved money + have 99.999% uptime!

MOTOROLA: Using System Management Server, Windows Server 2003 & SQLServer 2005 to conduct inventory of 65,000 desktops from a single location (e.g. for system updates corporate & worldwide).

NISSAN: Uses Windows Server 2003 to manage 50,000 employees' email & calendaring (w/ out VPN, & using Exchange Server 2003) for local AND remote + mobile users.

TOYOTA MOTOR SALES: Reduced the # of techs needed per dealership (1,000's worldwide) from 7, to 1 using Windows Server 2003.

SIEMENS: 420,000++ people, 130 business units over 190 countries managed in Windows Active Directory

REUTERS: Managing 3,000 servers worldwide @ customer sites internationally (using only 4 managers to do so, remotely).

DELL COMPUTER: Managing 130,000 servers & 100,000 PC's worldside using Windows Server 2003 + 40 million customers' data worldwide.

LEXIS NEXIS: Searches BILLIONS of documents each second delivering news, legal, & business information.

HSBC: Deploys System Center solutions to 15,000 Servers worldwide & 300,000 desktops using Windows Server 2003.

RAYOVAC: Chose Windows Server 2003 over Linux to manage their infrastructure - saving 1 million dollars estimated in software, staffing, & support costs.

JETTAINER/LUFTHANSA/U.S. AIRWAYS: managing shipping to 3,000 flights to 400 airports every day.

CONTINENTAL AIRLINES: Manages crew communication systems, log on/log off, schedules, & shifts using Windows Server 2008 worldwide.

JET BLUE AIRWAYS: Managing 12 million flights & their data annually + ticketing, finance, & personnel too.

TIMEX: Using Windows + Exchange Server for remote personnel & executives (for their ENTIRE workforce)

7 ELEVEN STORES: Chose Window

Re:Least appreciated scifi ever

[Anonymous Coward]

How long before he starts whining how no one has disproven one of his facts ever? He has spoken so much BS he can link to copies and copies of his posts, but somehow never links the ones where he is disproven http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40923911, even on trivial stuff he takes way too seriously, http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40921545 .
But remember, he claims that the truth is always on topic:

Truth's always the subject. This is truth -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40921717 it's not hiding behind anything, it's just truth and fact. Sometimes truth hurts, but don't let it make you cry! It's only truth. by APK on Wednesday August 08, @10:50PM (#40926551) http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40926551.

So if you have something true to say about him, he's said it is on-topic to say it.

Re:Least appreciated scifi ever

[Anonymous Coward]

Still can't keep on topic?

Re:Least appreciated scifi ever

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the ac stalker apk has. You failed on OpenGL vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045 and this is the 3rd or 4th time you've tried impersonating apk this week. Others besides me state that. Your problem is you think we're stupid and can't tell your troll games apart from apk's real posts. Take your meds and shock therapy sessions please.

Fake, Check the Times of Posts

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject and original here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985 which has Baylor and the one here does not and is far earlier and by the real APK no less. Linux trolls busted again? Absolutely, and on a bad note, lying and impersonating others. Has Slashdot's Linux crowd begun to stoop to new lows or what?

Re:Fake, Check the Times of Posts

[Anonymous Coward]

Baylor is right there second from last of the first university list.

Re:Fake, Check the Times of Posts

[Anonymous Coward]

Who gives a fuck about Baylor?

Re:Fake, Check the Times of Posts

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, do what parent says and do check the post times of all of these posts here... these posts are more fake than APK's crappy statistics.

Just as apk predicted (yet again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Just as APK predicted an unjust down mod from ac troll on his post that put out facts and the ac troll blundered on transactions versus rows as well as omitting power redudancy with trying to put words in apk's mouth he never said:

when I catch him in a mistake? He'll unjustly downmod my posts when he fails... call it a prediction here too on that note! from http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40869197 .

Mike Resnick

[Anonymous Coward]

Ivory, Paradise, Santiago, Book of Man and many more. He's long been a favorite of mine and so few seem appreciate his work.

Re:Sturgeon&The Skills of Xanadu; James P Hoga

[dpilot]

If you're talking "hard" science fiction, you can't forget Hal Clement.

Not actually APK

[Anonymous Coward]

This post wasn't made by APK, who instead keeps on topic. Instead it is by an offtopic troll that keeps trying to put words in APK's mouth. He's even admitted to not taking his meds just the other day:

I forgot to take my psycho meds. I just did and am sane again. Apologies for going off topic trolling apk and I can't disprove his points. by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 04, @11:16AMhttp://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877673 .

And yet again at, a second time he forgot to take his meds:

Apology for not taking my meds. I admit apk is right and that I am an off topic troll who has issues since apk has gotten the best of me so many times online I have to hide under pure anonymous coward posts off topic the entire time. I am no man, and am truly an anonymous wuss.by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 04, @11:14AM http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877667

He can't tell the difference between transactions and rows in a database, or disprove any facts http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985

CM Kornbluth

[Anonymous Coward]

Glad to see Simak and Fred Brown also mentioned. Don't forget Algis Budrys, Jim Blish, and Norman Spinrad.

Right: They tried to impersonate me

[Anonymous Coward]

They're busted altering data I posted days ago with this -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277 when I posted the original DAYS ago, here -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985 which they couldn't handle or disprove, and they downmodded it and began a campaign of trying to "smear"/discredit me.

If you take a look at the 1st link above, you'll see what I mean...

* You Linux trolls are unbelievable!

APK

P.S.=> Stupid trolls are only doing this to themselves, & got caught in the act by screwing up trying to impersonate me yet again (not a first), and then altering data from a post I did days before leading users to bogus data from goatse.cx etc./et al (puny troll tricks)... apk

We'll stick to the original earlier dated one

[Anonymous Coward]

Here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985 and yes, they all have Microsoft products for states and colleges, unlike your fake. Linux trolls sink to new lows here, no wonder slashdot's dying since this ac troll lied about it http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40886569.

Janet Kagan

[Anonymous Coward]

Although I only recall one of her novels: "Hellspark", it impressed itself upon me deeply. True science fiction considering some interesting questions, including "what counts as 'sentient'?". This was a deeply thought out universe, and I would happily read more set in it.

Not sure about under-appreciated, but I'd consider James Schmitz for the list. Not necessarily for Telzey Amberdon, more for his other work.

Another name for those who mention real scientists: Fred Hoyle, most notably for "October the First is Too Late".

This link inside puts you away, easily... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

* No denying netcraft data, is there, troll? No Sir... truth always wins out vs. lying scumbags!

APK

P.S.=> Yes, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style":

This? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'", & especially vs. trolling scumbag Linux trolls that impersonate me (not a 1st), but also put up bogus links for others to click on in some PUNY attempt @ deception - Guess what trolls? The jig's up, & you FAIL...

... apk

C. M. Kornbluth

[Anonymous Coward]

Really a master of the short story form. If you can find a copy of "A Mile Beyond the Moon" or "The Best of C. M. Kornbluth" (short story collections) they're definitely worth reading.

Linux Penguins FAIL, bigtime (lies galore)

[Anonymous Coward]

This shows how much they lied with ALL Microsoft stuff on the links http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277 running the show for those states and universities that this FOOL said wasn't run by MS stuff http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40886569

(The original post here in THIS exchange was NOT ME, but rather an impostor who copied AND ALTERED my data from another post (link below) from days before when I posted it in response to UTTER b.s. by Penguin trolls here on /.!)

* Unbelievable - ...

(Small wonder folks won't use Linux, eh? Such "nice guys" run & use it (not))...

APK

P.S.=> My original data & link was here -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985

... apk

Big Linux shill troll FAIL: "BUSTED"... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

FROM -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40905783

Running from this too -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

When & where you took MY original data in this thread here we're in now:

http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985

Which is my original data from THIS thread, and, FAR EARLIER DATED and different than your "altered model" where you impersonated me, here, in another thread:

http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887319

(With YOU missing the Baylor link above, & MY ORIGINAL LINK 1st one above? Has it...)

That's proof you altered it to impersonate me, also HERE http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887025 , proving you altered it, & impersonated me!)

and also here:

http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026929&cid=40883775

(Where you did NOT miss the baylor link, but both impersonate ME to say "Windows is 'better'" - you're busted, stupid!)

As NEITHER of those last 2 links just now are myself, since in my original? I never EVER said "Windows is better" AND I had Baylor's data in it, and mine's dated earlier!

(Though Windows IS better, for a great many things, Linux has it's niche too... albeit in combined servers + pc desktop marketshare, it's an industry fact provable statistically that it is FAR behind marketshare & usage to Windows!)

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Which in fact, netcraft SHOWS Baylor uses Windows:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.baylor.edu

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LMAO - You later also tried to say that Linux was running on those servers & it was NOT and IS still not, by altering the data here in that other thread -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40888699

However - The actual netcraft links I posted afterwards (which you would NOT post) show otherwise! Since I posted right after that to shoot you down in your lies and deceitful b.s. -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

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Talk about LOW!

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Additionally:

As far as the YEARS of /. propoganda of "Linux = Secure, Windows !=Secure"? I can only put out Linux's fails from 2011-2012 also:

2012:

Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

What's health.utah.gov running too??

YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

* Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

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2011:

KERNEL.ORG COMPROM

Re:Jack Williamson

[Almost-Retired]

I'd almost have to agree since I was reading "Docs" work in the early 40's, it was I believe, the first non-educational material I read after mastering McGuffy's, so I guess you could call me as being from that era.

But more recently, as in the last 40 years, an alias, Jack Williamson sticks out in my memory. There was enough stuff in "Fire Starter" to make a trilogy, but I never saw that name on the shelves again. And of course we shouldn't forget Orson scott Card and Spider Robinson (Callahans Bar among others), two more rather widely read names that haven't been mentioned.

Cheers, Gene

John C Wright

[Charliemopps]

John C Wright - "The Golden Age"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Age_%28novel_series%29

Hardly anyone I've met has read those books and they will blow your God damned mind. Usually a scifi author has some gimmick like "in the future, people can download their minds into computers" which has been done before... but Wright takes it to such an extreme. The depth of thought he put into the implications is staggering.

Re:John C Wright

[TaoJones]

Yes. Read it now. Please...

Re:John C Wright

[Anonymous Coward]

Each paragraph of The Golden Age has enough ideas packed in for a complete book by somebody else.

Do not click!

[Anonymous Coward]

Do not click the Baylor link, it goes to goats.cx.

Linux dorks put up an [archive.org] fake domain

[Anonymous Coward]

Real one here (ends in netcraft.com): Baylor University: Runs their domain on Windows -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.baylor.edu

* Thus, as you can see? Baylor, and ALL THE REST from MY ORIGINAL LINK -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985 to that data, ALL RUN WNDOWS/IIS IN SOME FORM AS I STATED (not the impostor's fake ones here) , and shows my data was indeed, solid & legit...

(Unlike the Linux scumbags faked ones here)

Unbelievable - they have NO honor, shame, or ethics... total scumbags!

APK

P.S.=> The Linux trolls have sunk to a NEW "low", in putting up faked links and impersonating me (the latter's NOT a "1st" either on that account)...

... apk

Re:Linux dorks put up an [archive.org] fake domain

[Anonymous Coward]

WNDOWS?

You fail at spelling the OS you are a shill for... double fail.

Re:Linux dorks put up an [archive.org] fake domain

[Anonymous Coward]

APK already accepted your apology here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877707. Maybe you've missed a dose of meds?

Re:Linux dorks put up an [archive.org] fake domain

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the ac stalker apk has. You fail on OpenGL vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045 You fail at impersonating him here and in other threads 3 or 4 times now this week alone. You fail to be on topic. Triple fail troll is your name, lol!

Re:Linux dorks put up an [archive.org] fake domain

[Anonymous Coward]

quadruple fail 4U, ac troll, as apk dusted you on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and blew you away on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll.

Vernor Vinge

[ronwolf]

Fire Upon the Deep & Deepness in the Sky should have a special spot in anyone's library of sci-fi. True Names, Peace War and others are also standouts.

EE Doc Smith

[Anonymous Coward]

The Lensmen series, started in 1937, was a precursor of the Star Wars universe. Introduced the concept of the "Force", I forget what he called it but the Lensmen could tap into it. The prototypcial Space Opera which also preceded the Foundation Trilogy. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._E._Smith for more

American Science Fiction: Nine Classic Novels

[westlake]

This fall, the non profit Library of America will publishing two volumes of American sci-fi novels from the 1850s.

Frederik Pohl and C. M. Kornbluth, The Space Merchants

Theodore Sturgeon, More Than Human

Leigh Brackett, The Long Tomorrow

Richard Matheson, The Shrinking Man

Robert A. Heinlein, Double Star

Alfred Bester, The Stars My Destination

James Blish, A Case of Conscience

Algis Budrys, Who?

Fritz Leiber, The Big Time

Steven Moffat

[Anonymous Coward]

You dead tree snobs don't even consider small screen writers as writer! How under-appreciated can you be to not even be what you are!

John Christopher & John Wyndham

[Zalgon 26 McGee]

The Tripods trilogy (now in four books) is a good set to get your 10-12 year old boys hooked on the genre.

And I enjoy the "cosy catastrophes" of John Wyndham's works - The Day of the Triffids and Chrysalids are his two best known, but the story of the Troon family in "The Outward Urge" is wonderful as well (one of the best SF examples of bluffing at a national level in one of the stories), and my personal favourite was his first posthumous work, "Web" - unlike its predecessors, there's no "Well, things are getting better" at the end...

Robert Sheckley

[Anonymous Coward]

Sheckley's "Dimension of Miracles", "Mindswap" and all his short stories are brilliant.
If you like HHGG, you'll love those. In fact, the 1968 "Dimension of Miracles" is so similar in tone and storytelling to the 1979 HHGG, it looks like DNA was a big fan of Sheckley.

Jack Vance

[Trails]

Ok, so I know he's fairly well known, but good god y'all Jack Vance is awesome and is underappreciated imo.

I also have to agree with those above who say Cordwainer Smith.

Jack L. Chalker

[Anonymous Coward]

yeah yeah I know what youre thinking, THAT guy?

Sure he got mired down in the same old themes later on, but when he started out he had some ideas that were way, way ahead of their time, and some just downright mind-blowing stuff too! Not saying he was the first or anything, but his early stuff, Well World, Chozen, and Lords of the Diamond specifically, deserve a re-read in this day and age.

Come back when Linux and OSX have 50% marketshare

[Anonymous Coward]

Over 50% marketshare, get back to us. As is, combined, they only represent what? Ahem: "far, Far, FAR from over 50%"... period.

* When, they have that? Well - That's when it counts - only then!

Until then... well, you know! Lmao...

APK

P.S.=> When the clock hand strikes 13 on the "12th of NEVER", then that'll happen (Linux or MacOS X being the most used Operating Systems on the planet on PC Desktops & Servers combined... )... ... apk

Most underappreciated?

[Anarchduke]

Cyrano de Bergerac

Re:Most underappreciated?

[Reziac]

Interesting that you should mention it... when I read Cyrano lo those many years ago, it struck me as SF, of a sort.

In addition to those I can't remember

[Anonymous Coward]

John Varley - Millennium
Alan Dean Foster - Dark Star
Richard Morgan - Altered Carbon

Cordwainer Smith

[boogahboogah]

Those stories have stayed with me better than most other SF, over a period of 45 years. I bought a compilation from those New England folks that republish not long ago and read them all again.

Ted Chiang

[Taantric]

He has only ever written short stories. The entire collection is called "Stories of Your Life and Others". Do yourself a favour and read them. http://www.amazon.com/Stories-Your-Life-Others-Chiang/dp/1931520720/ref=la_B001HCZ6OA_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344484966&sr=1-1

I'm going with Stephen Leigh

[DragonTHC]

Imagine a world of dinosaurs!

Aweseome!

E.E. "Doc" Smith

[Anonymous Coward]

The Lensman series is a blast, and inspired movies and TV which in turn inspired my youth. But most people don't recognize his name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Smith

Comedic Genius

[huckamania]

Top 5 all time. Easily as funny as Wodehouse and he set the bar. I'm half-way through the Disc World series and have enjoyed every single one.

Unfortunately his humor does not translate well into movies.

Grok it, and giv e'er the gun!

[Impy the Impiuos Imp]

Robert A. Heinlein. Because no matter how much he's appreciated, he's still underappreciated.

Barrington Bayley

[chartreuse]

In a sense the British van Vogt, with a unique mind and approach, but even less well-known. If it weren't for Wollheim appreciating his work he would be almost unpublished in the US.

Lots of other worthies have been named above, and I would add Rudy Rucker, but to be honest nearly all of them were/are better-known.

Just as apk predicted (yet again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Just as APK predicted an unjust down mod from ac troll on his post that put out facts and the ac troll blundered on transactions versus rows as well as omitting power redudancy with trying to put words in apk's mouth he never said:

when I catch him in a mistake? He'll unjustly downmod my posts when he fails... call it a prediction here too on that note! from http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40869197.

Just as apk predicted (yet again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Just as APK predicted an unjust down mod from ac troll on his post that put out facts and the ac troll blundered on transactions versus rows as well as omitting power redudancy with trying to put words in apk's mouth he never said:

when I catch him in a mistake? He'll unjustly downmod my posts when he fails... call it a prediction here too on that note! from http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40869197.

Edward Bellamy

[Anonymous Coward]

novel: Looking Backward: 2000-1887. Published in 1888. Third most popular book in USA in 1900, after Uncle Tom's Cabin, and BenHur. Inspired 46 other utopian novels. Charles Beard, John Dewey, and Edward Weeks made separate lists of most influential books published since 1885, each put it # 2, after Marx's Das Kaptial. Created an instant mass political movement. In 1891 165 "Bellamy Clubs" in the USA. Get at http://www.gutenberg.org/

Andre Norton

[Anonymous Coward]

Mrs Norton ,often known as the Queen of sci fi, is often overlooked. She was one of the most prolific writers creating many worlds to which many of us escaped. Still to this day I find myself drawn back to her novels. Please read if you have the opportunity.

Jack Vance

[Anonymous Coward]

Quite hard to find now though

Michael Swanwick

[Anonymous Coward]

I grew up with Iron Dragon's daughter and was so happy to see Dragons of Babel came out in '09. I know it sounds more fantasy than scifi but its an amazing mix of worlds.

He regularly shows up in "The Year's Best Science Fiction" series. If you want a quick taste of what he's like, look for Triceratops Summer. Very quick read (9 pages in the 25th edition of said series) if you're interested in knowing if his style is yours.

David Gerrold!

[neuro88]

David Gerrold gets my vote. Oh, he's around but his master work is largely unheard of. He wrote the Trouble With Tribbles episode of Star Trek, and one of his books was made into a movie (Martian Child) which I haven't seen...

But his Chtorr series is *amazing* and, sadly, out of print. The Chtorr series is about an alien invasion except the invasion isn't a war in the traditional sense. It's an ecological war and the Chtorran lifeforms are about half a billion years older (more evolved) than our's. Their microbes have been replacing our's and it's gone increasingly further up the food. There seems to be no obvious sentient intelligence in any of the aliens, and there's been no evidence of anything like starships. No one knows where it's coming from, they just know it's not terran.

I really enjoy the writing style. It feels like the author is enjoying himself when he's writing these books, and that makes you enjoy it even more. The books are all from the perspective of the main character. It can get introspective (fine by me) and also it can be preachy at times with the author preaching his ideas. A lot of which I find fascinating regardless of whether I agree with them or not, but there are definitely times when it can get tiresome.

4 books have been written, with each book being superior to the previous book. For something like well over a decade, the 5th book has been marked as "coming soon!". No one really believes it anymore, but hey, duke nuke 'em 3d is out, GNU/Hurd is more or less usable, so why not?

Re:David Gerrold!

[MagusSlurpy]

You beat me to it. Gerrold is one of my absolute favorite authors, and The War Against the Chtorr was what inspired me to become a scientist almost twenty years ago. Stylistically, his prose is quite similar to Heinlein's, and gives me the same warm, fuzzy feeling.

And his Star Wolf series is essentially a "realistic" version of Star Trek - kind of what life would be like in a galactic Federation if you weren't serving on the flagship, but were just another cog in the works. The main character even has the same initials as Kirk.

Re:David Gerrold!

[neuro88]

You beat me to it. Gerrold is one of my absolute favorite authors, and The War Against the Chtorr was what inspired me to become a scientist almost twenty years ago. Stylistically, his prose is quite similar to Heinlein's, and gives me the same warm, fuzzy feeling.

And his Star Wolf series is essentially a "realistic" version of Star Trek - kind of what life would be like in a galactic Federation if you weren't serving on the flagship, but were just another cog in the works. The main character even has the same initials as Kirk.

I've never read Star Wolf... but I think I just might now. I heard that other book about "h.a.r.l.i.e" is good and there's references to it in the Chtorr series. When H.a.r.l.i.e Was Won or something like that?

Re:David Gerrold!

[MagusSlurpy]

Yeah, HARLIE is pretty good, and when you read it, you may laugh - besides the overt references in the Chtorr books to the intelligence engines chugging away in Atlanta (I think?) on the infestation problem, there is a second, very subtle tie-in to When HARLIE Was One that you may very well miss - it's not obvious in context to the Chtorr books, but quite a brilliant tie-in to When HARLIE Was One, once you are familiar with HARLIE as a character. There are actually two versions, When H.A.R.L.I.E. Was One, and When H.A.R.L.I.E. Was One Release 2.0, which as I understand it, is mainly an updated version in terms of the coding language used, about fifteen years more recent than the original (which is FORTY years old this year!).

The Dingilliad series (Jumping off the Planet, Bouncing Off the Moon, and Leaping to the Stars) is very remiscent of Heinlein's juvenile novels, if you're a fan of those - and easier to find than his earlier novels. I always keep an eye out when I hit up the local used book stores, though there are only two of his novels now that I don't own. I even have a copy of his novelisation of "Battle of the Planet of the Apes." Because I am a nerd.

Re:David Gerrold!

[ppanon]

When HARLIE Was One

Re:David Gerrold!

[Randym]

Finally! Everyone knows he wrote the classic ST episode The Trouble with Tribbles, but he also wrote two other classics: When H.A.R.L.I.E. Was One -- a 'computer becoming aware' book that ranks up there with Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, and -- my fave -- The Man Who Folded Himself -- a time travel adventure that makes Heinlein's classic story By His Bootstraps seem simplistic. Message to Hollywood: Make The Man Who Folded Himself into a movie! Please! Not only do you get a mind-bending book that movie-making technology has finally evolved to enable you to present in a realistic way, but you also get a great author who can write the kickass screenplay too. You're very welcome!

Bush and US Media...

[Anonymous Coward]

Have you read their work "Nuke's in Bagdad?"

John E. Stith

[jayrtfm]

Stith is best known for the novel "MANHATTAN TRANSFER" which starts with Manhattan being cut out, domed, and lifted into an alien spaceship.
http://www.neverend.com/bibliography

Gordon Dickson

[Anonymous Coward]

Some very interesting military and other SciFi books, especially the Dorsai (Childe Cycle) Series.

David Mace

[Ice Tiger]

Firelance and Night Rider are still two of my favorite books.

Using the same criteria

[dadioflex]

everyone else is - the most under-appreciated SF writer is... Dan Brown. Clearly. Huh, what? Sure he's fabulously wealthy and successful, but so are most of the other writers being mentioned. Unlike many of them he's never - NEVER - won a Hugo or a Nebula. How under-appreciated is that? Very. Not a science fiction author? Have you even read "The Digital Fortress"? That had science in it and it was fiction.

Obviously the real most under-appreciated Science Fiction writer is John Steakley, who wrote the book "John Carpenter's Vampires" was based on. The sequel had Jon Bon Jovi in it.

I kid. John Steakley also wrote "Armor", which is one of the best armoured mobile infantry books ever written. No longer with us, sadly. Bit of a drinker.

Piers Anthony anyone?

[Anonymous Coward]

Macroscope is possibly my favorite book of all time. Xanth aside, which were still god damn funny, there is also Blue Adept. Posting anon to save mods.

And for the most underappreciated fantasy author

[dadioflex]

Brian McNaughton - "Throne of Bones". A collection of short stories about ghouls and the ghoulish, set in a world very similar to Jack Vance's Dying Earth though a good deal more venal and depraved.

"For all their laughter, ghouls are a dull lot. Hunger is the fire in which they burn, and it burns hotter than the hunger for power over men or for knowledge of the gods in a crazed mortal. It vaporizes delicacy and leaves behind only a slag of anger and lust. They see their fellows as impediments to feeding, to be mauled and shrieked at when the mourners go home. They are seldom alone, not through love of one another's company, but because a lone ghoul is suspected of stealing food. Their copulation is so hasty that distinctions of sex and identity are often ignored."

Harry Harrison.

[Anonymous Coward]

And little Jimmy DiGriz. Still posting anon...

Re:Harry Harrison.

[Anonymous Coward]

The post said "underappreciated".

Give this AC a prize, though.

Robert Silverberg

[Anonymous Coward]

GodDamnit, I hate posting anon to save mods, but, Valentine Pontifex, er, and the other Valentine books, made me want to learn a bit of juggling.

Daniel Keys Moran and M.J. Engh

[Anonymous Coward]

Moran's books are cult classics that command hundreds of dollars for original editions. Engh's books are virtually unknown, but evocative and powerful.

trio

[Anonymous Coward]

Samuel R Delany, Philip Jose Farmer, Brian Aldiss: Rich beyond the call of duty!

Re:S.M. Stirling - Dies the Fire, Emberverse 1 &am

[Phrogman]

Haven't tried the Sea of Time books yet, but his Dies the Fire and subsequent books (7 or so I think) are brilliant fun and probably my current favorite books, although they verge on Fantasy of course. They are tied to the Sea of Time series of course, since they relate what happens in this world when Nantucket is sucked back in time.

Emberverse I:
Dies the Fire
The Protector's War
Meeting at Corvallis

Emberverse II:
The Sunrise Lands
The Scourge of God
The Sword of the Lady
The High King of Montival
Tears of the Sun
- with 2 more books to come, next one this September

They are sort of a retelling of the King Arthur myth as well as others, in a world where technology suddenly stopped working - but only some technology, and our ancient myths start coming alive again. Set in North America, primarily the former USA, and initially at least mostly in Oregon, with bits told elsewhere, including Britain. I absolutely love these books, and I think they are greatly underrated to be honest.

brunner?

[retchdog]

i would think that shockwave rider would be popular among slashdot-types, despite being a bit cheesy and dated.

Re:brunner?

[Randym]

And don't forget Stand on Zanzibar. *And* The Sheep Look Up. Dystopias that stand with the bes--, er, the worst of them.

If you like real "hard" science fiction

[Chrisq]

If you like real "hard" science fiction rather than fantasy, then Charles Sheffield takes some beating.

Re:If you like real "hard" science fiction

[hardie]

Sheffield is excellent. Very under appreciated.

A little list

[tengu1sd]

Norman Spinrad - varied novels and intriguing people
Lloyd Biggle Jr Monument is one of my favorite novels.
Eric Frank Russell - Look for And then there were none
James Hogan - Sometimes accused of telling the same libertarian story over and over. There might be some truth to that, but he does it so well.
Donald Kingsbury - The Moon Goddess and the Son and Psychohistorical Crisis were intriguing. Amazingly detailed new worlds.
Tim Powers - Perhaps drifting into fantasy but well crafted stories.

Re:Ursula K. LeGuin - not "underappreciated"

[pr100]

Great author, but has had plenty of recognition.

Cecilia Holland.

[pr100]

"Floating Worlds" - interesting scifi book, that nobody seems to have read.

Keith Laumer

[acgetchell]

Nowadays folks know his Bolo works, but Dinosaur Beach, Worlds of the Imperium, End as a Hero, and the Retief series were pretty unique for their time. One of my favorite authors.

Dinosaur Beach has to be one of my favorite novels, its a cracking good time travel novel with transhumanism before such was known.

http://www.dinosaurbeach.com/

Re:Keith Laumer

[Macklyn]

Really funny stuff, I'd forgotten about Keith and I own quite a few of his paperbacks.

Charles L. Harness

[Anonymous Coward]

In the short story collection 'The Rose' he came up with several seminal ideas that anticipated future science, such as the effect of a single quantum fired at the double slit experiment, and converting starfields to music.

A wild ride!

Re:Charles L. Harness

[Anonymous Coward]

I may have oversimplified my argument. Of course, his experiment involved a single quantum fired at a nicol prism, but the principle was there.

Might I suggest....?

[Anonymous Coward]

A hard SF writer called Ken MacLeod http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_MacLeod

Ray Nelson, a personal choice

[hughbar]

Ray Nelson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nelson wrote Eight O'Clock in the Morning which became the wonderful John Carpenter film: They Live. But, he also co-wrote the first P.K. Dick book I ever read [and which would make a fantastic shoot-em-up big-budget film] in the 1960s, The Ganymede Takeover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ganymede_Takeover that was our first introduction to Dick, autonomic darts, robots that own human beings, the rather ridiculous Vugs etc. etc.

I'd say quite a few

[Anonymous Coward]

David Brin was mentioned already by one commenter, but it bears repeating, as some of his novels are amongst the best I've ever read.

Robert Asprin ans the Myth series

Harry Harrison, for the excellent Stainless Steel Rat series and for Make Room, Make Room, which became the movie Soylent Green.

David Weber has done tons of fantastic stuff and isn't really mentioned. The Honor Harrington series is on its 13th novel and another 7 or so offshoots. The Hell's Gate series, the Safehold series and his work with...

Eric Flint and his fantastic 1632 series

Iain M. Banks

[Milharis]

Iain Banks is a Scottish writer of the Culture universe, among others.
He's considered by The Times as one of the 50 greatest British writers since 1945, and yet he's relatively unknown compared to many people discussed here.

Re:Iain M. Banks

[Anonymous Coward]

Bank's main problem in North America is that his publishers insist on releasing his books only in oddball trade formats that cost a fortune. I usually have to wait for years to get remaindered copies of his hardcovers. If they did standard paperback releases at a "normal" price, he would sell a lot more copies.

Re:Iain M. Banks

[Anonymous Coward]

Bank's main problem in North America is that his publishers insist on releasing his books only in oddball trade formats that cost a fortune. I usually have to wait for years to get remaindered copies of his hardcovers. If they did standard paperback releases at a "normal" price, he would sell a lot more copies.

Um, amazon.com has them all in paperback for $10 each.

Somtow Sucharitkul

[TaoJones]

The Inquestor Trilogy. John C. Wright 20 years ago.

Jack Vance

[Anonymous Coward]

Absolutely the most under-estimated US sci-fi writer of all times.

Jeff Duntemann

[Erbo]

And I say this not just because he's a personal friend, either. :-)

Jeff is more widely known for writing computer books, including books on Turbo Pascal and x86 assembly language, Degunking Windows, and Jeff Duntemann's Drive-By Wi-Fi Guide, and for editing one of the better programming magazines of the 90's, PC Techniques (later Visual Developer Magazine), but his SF work is worth anyone's time. The Cunning Blood , his first published novel, is classical hard SF jam-packed with information and ideas, including a prison planet without electricity, kept that way by nanotechnological devices that eat active electrical conductors. (The inhabitants of the planet have developed many non-electrical technologies into a fairly advanced society.) It also posits life after death...with the effects thereof mainly visible at the femtometer scale. (You'll have to read it to understand what that means, and the significance that point has.)

Another group of his works involves the survivors of a lost starship that have built a new home on an Earthlike world...which has thousands of strange machines left on it by an unknown race, consisting of two pillars and a bowl of dust. Tap on the pillars 256 times, in any combination, and an object will appear in the dust. Simple patterns produce simple objects, like saws, knives, and rope; more complex patterns are likely only to produce indescribable metal "thingies," but certain patterns produce powerful objects indeed. The resulting world has something of a "steampunk" flavor in parts, with an additional strong resemblance to frontier America. For one of the books in this universe, he's teamed up with another local author to revive the old Ace Doubles-style book, with two novella-length works bound "back to back" in one volume.

He's currently working on a quite different novel, Ten Gentle Opportunities, that combines fantasy, SF, and humor in some surprising ways. Among other things, it features--I am not making this up--zombies doing the Macarena.

Read more from Jeff on his Web site and blog.

William Hope Hodgeson

[RogueyWon]

I'd nominate William Hope Hodgeson.

Ok, maybe that's slightly disingenuous. There are actually good reasons why he isn't more widely appreciated - such as the fact that his most notable work is written in a hideous cod-medieval style and is about twice as long as it needs to be.

But among a bunch of short-stories of variable quality, he put out two staggeringly imaginative works of longer fiction.

The House on the Borderlands has a central premise that seems, at first glance, quite similar to The Time Machine. However, it has a number of significant differences in its own right. First, it imports some substantial trappings from the gothic horror genre (parts of the book are more horror than sci-fi or speculative fiction). Second, it has some really ambitious cosmological stuff - basically, think back to the "dying earth" section near the end of The Time Machine, and imagine that extrapolated forwards. This book's written in a perfectly approachable style and isn't particularly long - it may date from around a century ago, but it's still pretty accessible to the modern reader.

But the House on the Borderlands is never going to be the work that WHH is best remembered for (where he is remembered at all). That's always going to be The Night Land.

Here we have a book that is, in many ways, so far ahead of its time as to be mind-blowing. Written before the First World War, it's set in the distant future, on an Earth where the sun has gone out and where humanity survives in a gigantic arcology, beset on all sides by both natural and supernatural threats. If you're looking for literary sci-fi firsts, then this book is filled with them: arcologies, geothermal power, NASA-style food concentrates and powered armour, to name some of the more notable examples. It also does a great turn in Lovecraftian horror (indeed, Lovecraft himself was, with some reservations, an admirer of WHH), with hostile yet inscrutable supernatural forces which share quite a few traits with the Cthulhu mythos. The book is a strange combination of speculative sci-fi and fantasy-horror and is one of the most imaginative books I've ever read.

Unfortunately, it's also actively painful to read at times. It's written in the aforementioned cod-medieval style, has a completely unnecessary and rather tedious medieval framing-story, has massive amounts of repetition (particularly in the second half) and features an toe-curlingly misogynistic and implausibly written romance storyline (WHH apparently went through his short life with almost no contact with the opposite sex).

In short, it can be an extremely rewarding book to read, but it demands a lot of effort from the reader (and quite a bit of skim reading in the second half, if I'm honest). There is a modern "remake" of it by James Stoddard that you can get from Amazon's Kindle store, which switches to modern language, tightens up the framing plot, makes the romance subplot more plausible and reduces the length dramatically. That might be a better way into it - but when I tried it, I did find that a little of the original's imaginative power got lost in the translation.

Lovecraft had a way of writing

[Anonymous Coward]

With powers of description that were unbelievable: You could picture the scene perfectly mentally because of his immense powers of description... & even though his English seemed "archaic", once you got used to it, it would carry you away to other worlds.

APK

Zenna Henderson

[dtmos]

Zenna Henderson, for her "People" series.

Budrys

[Anonymous Coward]

Probably before most Slashdotters' time, but A.J. Budrys comes to mind.

Octavia Butler

[circletimessquare]

African American female SciFi author

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_E._Butler

"Kindred" is pretty awesome. Hollywood movie bait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindred_(novel)

Harry Harrison

[second_coming]

The Stainless Steel Rat series are by far my favourite sci-fi books. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat

Slippery Jim DiGriz is a top notch character, how these books have managed not to be turned into a film/tv series is beyond me.

40k in Ghenna

[Anonymous Coward]

C J Cherryh, missing from many lists, not much available in new media like the kindle, but so so awesome, still have many treasured paperbacks bought in the 80s

Actual origin of Scientology

[Randym]

(by inventing Scientology as part of a casual bet with Heinlein over who could invent the best religion)

According to Harlan Ellison, who was there, the actual event came about at a Con in NYC in 1952 when L. Sprauge de Camp made a joke that, if you wanted to make money with science fiction, you should just invent your own religion. L. Ron, however, took it seriously.

L. Sprauge de Camp, unfortunately, remains unappreciated.

Re:Actual origin of Scientology

[Anonymous Coward]

So unappreciated that you can't even spell his name correct.

Science Fiction Hall of Fame: ed. Robt. Silverberg

[Randym]

I can't believe that no one mentioned Science Fiction Hall of Fame: The Greatest Science Fiction Stories of All Time ! Chosen by the members of the Science Fiction Writers of America and published in 1970: stories were from 1929-1964. No ISBN in my (tattered) copy, but Library of Congress Card Number 70-97691. Edit: Oh wait: look here: http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Science_Fiction_Hall_of_Fame_Volume.html?id=yPVbDv5DqkoC. 52 of 58 people rated it 4 or 5. You can then buy it right over in the left-hand column. Go, go!

Richard Morgan

[AmiMoJo]

The Altered Carbon trilogy is as masterpiece of dystopian cyberpunk. Shame he seems to have moved to fantasy now, I didn't think as much of his last two books.

Peter F Hamilton.

[malkavian]

I'm a firm fan of his work.. The "Night's Dawn Trilogy" is a good fun read, and the "Commonwealth Saga" is intriguing..
Misspent Youth is a really interesting read, and had me snickering a few times and thinking "Yep, I can see that!"..
The Greg Mandel series (his first, I think) were good too.. Well worth picking up..

...and Jerry Pournelle!

[Randym]

People kind of forget about him, but I don't know why. He was constantly being nominated for Hugos and Nebulas. I read Niven and Pournelle's Inferno long before I read Dante Aligheri's Divine Comedy trilogy -- but it compares quite favorably in retrospect.

Ben Bova

[Anonymous Coward]

His Grand Tour series.

C.J. Cherryh

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm a big fan of C.J. Cherryh. Her Faded Sun trilogy is awesome, and she's done lots of other great stuff.
+1 on Bester (above).

My two choices...

[DenaliPrime]

I'm going to trot out two authors that I think are very underrated. George Alec Effinger (Esp. his Marid Audran series); and; Walter Jon Williams (Esp. Hardwired and related books).

Re:Jack Williamson

[dpilot]

I mentioned in another thread to someone talking about "hard" sci-fi, but the original post was AC, so my response probably got lost...

Hal Clement?

I've know read Jack Williamson, but not "Firestarter."

Now that I'm thinking... Clifford D. Simak?

Just three off the top of my head

[Anonymous Coward]

Peter Watts - Didn't write a lot but what he did is amazing. Incredible writing, incredible ideas and one of the only books that is genuinely smarter than me (Blindsight).
Tim Powers - Established but not lauded enough. Immense research into every book leading to alternate histories with such a strong, down to earth tone that you actually start to believe (Drawing of the Dark).
Tim Pratt - Around for a few years but still up and coming. Can't think of any story of his that didn't floor me from amazement (Captain Fantasy and the Secret Masters, Unexpected Outcomes), emotional pressure (Little Gods, Impossible Dreams), sheer literary weight (On a Blade of Grass, Another End of an Empire) or just plain laughter and enjoyment (We Go Back, The Christmas Mummy).

Cyril M. Kornbluth

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm still not sure if he was real of if he was merely a nom de plume for all of Fred Pohl's leftover cynicism. Mike Judge obviously knew of him, and stole his ideas without credit for the film Idiocracy (the catch phrase "would you buy it for a quarter?" was also lifted from the same short story by Kornbluth, adjusted for inflation, and slipped into the film Robocop). His ideas, particularly about how technological progress always runs aground on ethics and those who don't practice them, are everywhere.

And oh, yes, he's depressing, too.

Arkady and Boris Strugatsky ...

[Anonymous Coward]

no Stalker without Roadside Picnic ...

Sharon Green

[Anonymous Coward]

Her Amazon books starting with The Crystals of Mida were excellent.

As were her other series. I found recently that you can buy her books online.

Posting anon for.. obvious.. reasons.

Re:Sharon Green

[Anonymous Coward]

those books are not science fiction

they are porn dressed up in fantasy

BDSM fantasy at that leather and all

back on topic please

vinge

[Anonymous Coward]

vernor vinge ftw

Connie Willis

[crndg]

Maybe not "under appreciated" as much as lesser-known, Connie Willis is a reliable source for a good read. I confess I haven't read her most recent 2 tomes (yet), but her earlier stuff is enjoyable. Especially if you don't mind some human emotion and humor with your ray guns and time warps.

Jules Verne

[Anonymous Coward]

Seriously. So few people have actually *read* his work, thinking that they "know" it because of the sloppy movies that have been made. He created the genre of reality-based science fiction, in which the things that he speculated (the Nautilus, the vehicle from Master of the World, etc.) were at least possible given the technology of the time.

Thomas Pynchon

[oh_my_080980980]

Well someone mentioned him but didn't give him an entry. Gravity's Rainbow is killer, if not a tad bit long. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity's_Rainbow

Anne McCaffrey

[Anonymous Coward]

Her Dragonriders of Pern series is often overlooked but it has a very strong science based background. And while she definitely takes some liberties, many of the concepts are plausible.

Stephen R. Donaldson

[bluefoxlucid]

Fantasy writer. The Gap Cycle is the only scifi work I'm aware he wrote, and it's fucking EPIC.

What are you talking about?

[denzacar]

And one of the things I most respect about him is that every book is different. Unlike, for instance, Zelazny, who started out so brilliantly, but who turned into the Amber Corporation after his divorce (yes, I know they're very popular books - and I don't care - try reading his fabulous Hugo/Nebula winner Lord of Light, or his little remembered Isle of the Dead, or his novelette The Doors of His Face, The Lamps of His Mouth and see if you don't agree that the Amber series is really pretty dismal stuff by comparison)

Umm... His only divorce came in 1966, same year he married again, and it predates almost everything he ever published.
He never divorced his second wife, though they were separated during his later years which he spent with Jane Lindskold.

As for his opus... if you're looking for different, you've clearly not read enough of Zelazny.
The man put out three books of poetry while he wrote those Amber books you mention, did a dozen collaborations with other SF writers, won 4 Hugos (and other awards) from '76 to '87 alone, developed a video game, did ~20 other books, edited over half a dozen others... leaving 2 unfinished books at the time of his death. He clearly had decades of books left in him when he died.
Sure, his opus revolves around mythologies, gods and immortals a lot but he didn't dwell on a single myth in his explorations, always going to the next one.

And I don't see what is your problem with series. A long story is long. Particularly if it is loaded with characters.
Personally, I would have loved if he had done a trilogy around the Lord of Light.

As for why I find him to be underrated despite all those awards - the man wrote in so many references and subtext into his stories, years later you can find in them something you didn't know was there first couple of times you've read them.
Plus, being a poet, he knew how to set up those little ambushes mid-paragraph where you least expected them.
And you can tell that he had so much fun writing. His stories are full of tongue-in-cheek wordplay and jokes.
Without trying to be funny, like sat, Harry Harrison.

Re:What are you talking about?

[thomst]

denzacar commented:

As for his opus... if you're looking for different, you've clearly not read enough of Zelazny. The man put out three books of poetry while he wrote those Amber books you mention, did a dozen collaborations with other SF writers, won 4 Hugos (and other awards) from '76 to '87 alone, developed a video game, did ~20 other books, edited over half a dozen others... leaving 2 unfinished books at the time of his death. He clearly had decades of books left in him when he died. Sure, his opus revolves around mythologies, gods and immortals a lot but he didn't dwell on a single myth in his explorations, always going to the next one.

And I don't see what is your problem with series. A long story is long. Particularly if it is loaded with characters. Personally, I would have loved if he had done a trilogy around the Lord of Light.

As for why I find him to be underrated despite all those awards - the man wrote in so many references and subtext into his stories, years later you can find in them something you didn't know was there first couple of times you've read them. Plus, being a poet, he knew how to set up those little ambushes mid-paragraph where you least expected them. And you can tell that he had so much fun writing. His stories are full of tongue-in-cheek wordplay and jokes. Without trying to be funny, like sat, Harry Harrison.

I've read most of Zelazny's work - and he is one of my favorite authors, sf or not. That doesn't change the fact that the Amber series was purely him milking a franchise for all it was (financially) worth. In my view, it just doesn't stand up to his real masterpieces, like Lord of Light.

I would have HATED a Lord of Light trilogy. He said what he had to say in that towering novel, and the damned thing climaxes with a Hindu version of Gotterdammerung. What the hell more do you want?

The thing that's consistently great about Zelazny is his verbal pyrotechnics. The man loved language - it was his favorite toy, and he played with it at master level throughout his career. And, despite all the pretension of the sf New Wave in the 60's, the only writer who could really stand up to him and give as good as he got on that front was Alfred Bester - another chronically underappreciated sf writer.

I'm extremely grateful that I got to meet Zelazny, however briefly, at Octocon II. He walked into a room party I was attending, and was immediately cornered by a fat, overbearingly earnest fanboy - pizza-stained tee shirt and all - who spent close to twenty minutes lavishing Zelazny with increasingly-frantic, fulsome praise (all of it for the Amber series, of course), while the great man winced at every compliment, as if it were a burning lash, until, at last, with pure desperation in his voice, Fanboy announced, "Oh, MAN, I have to pee! Stay right there - I'll be right back!" So, naturally, the instant the bathroom door closed, Zelazny was out the door as if he'd been shot there by a cannon.

And I remember thinking to myself at the time, "Well, Roger, you pretty much brought that on yourself!"

Zelazny was a wonderful and uniquely talented writer. The Amber series, unfortunately, was pure, cold-blooded, commercial pandering, not art. It's entertaining, but it lacks the hell out of the thematic and character explorations of his truly great works.

Which brings me to the topic of his collaborations in the last decade or so of his life. Most of them seemed to me to be distinctly inferior on every level to pure, uncut Zelazny (although I admit I enjoyed his collaborations with Robert Sheckley - another greatly underappreciated sf writer). Again, they were often entertaining, but never truly great writing. Like the Amber series, they struck me as fluff by comparison with Zelazny in his prime. That saddens me.

Again, I'm a Zelazny fan. I regularly recommend Lord of Light to people who are just becoming acquainted with sf, and I re-read that and some of his other work from time to time, just because they're

Re:What are you talking about?

[Anonymous Coward]

So, in sum: Zelazny? YAY! Amber? Meh ...

You know, authors like Zelazny don't tend to get paid very well for their best stuff. It simply doesn't sell to a wide audience, even inside its genre. I think you should calm down a bit about the Amber books and stop begrudging the way that he cashed in on a hit. (And "hit" and "cashed in" are relative to 1970s SF&F genre standards. He didn't get rich.)

It's especially bad form to be angry about the second Amber series, which Zelazny wrote to pay hospital bills while dealing with the illness which ultimately killed him. (Or so I've heard.)

Even when churning out those books, Zelazny was about a thousand times better than the generic Extruded Fantasy Product series Amber was competing with. So chill out, man. Focus instead on the way that if you're in the mood to read something not-deep, you can pick up Amber and read a bunch of fluff written by Zelazny instead of one of the endless hordes of grimdark-lovin' dice-rollin' apostrophe-abusin' hacks who can't plot or write dialogue to save their lives.

p.s. I'd also note this:

Corwin's character never develops - nor does anyone else's. They all start out as cardboard cutouts, and they end up the same way - albeit somewhat spindled and slightly chipped around the edges.

Honestly, if Zelazny had a serious weakness as a writer, it was characterization. None of his characters are super deep or experience significant growth. You just notice it more in Amber because you're exposed to the same character over a series instead of one standalone novel.

If you want to read the apostle who has bettered the master in that category, go read some Brust.

Re:What are you talking about?

[denzacar]

Hmm... Not trying to be "all up in your face" here, but I am having a feeling that you are disappointed for not finding in his other works something you think you've found in some of his works.
Which, I can imagine, is not that hard to do when Zelazny is in question.
There are layers upon layers of "stuff" in all his works, making it very easy for everyone to dig up something they like.
Whether that something is the thing that was supposed to be dug up in that particular story is something else entirely.

As for character development, on one hand I am not sure that your claim regarding Corwin holds water.
Sure, he is continuously pragmatic, detached and a bit of a Mary Sue, but he does change with the story. Or at least his goals and (re)actions do.

On the other hand, Zelazny's heroes don't really achieve life changing epiphanies or much change at all. At best, they change alliances, leaving character changes to supporting characters.
And even those are more of reveals than changes.
Whodathunk that Random would make a good king, amiright? Or that Kubera is a slim tech wizard under all that fat? Or that The Count would be on the side of the Closers (not a spoiler I hope)?
Oh right... he forgot to tell us that in the beginning. Because those are all mostly final act reveals, not really changes in character.

Besides... All his heroes tend to be kind of Mary Sues and/or immortal. Both of which kinda kills character development.
They are either perfectly suited for the role they are about to play OR, they are hundreds and thousands of years old immortals/gods with their characters already burned in beyond change.

The man was a word wizard, not a character conjurer.
As such, he could squeeze art into and out of even the most prosaic stories, but his heroes all look alike.
And my only problem with his work is the same problem I have with his collaborations - not enough Zelazny.
And of those, Deus Irae makes me most... irate. Damn, are those bits by P.K. Dick clashing with those by Zelazny.
With Dick winning, as it's the only Zelazny book that left me depressed in the end.

Regarding your encounter with Zelazny and a fan, I am again having a feeling that you are projecting a bit there.
I never did have a chance to meet him in person, years, oceans an wars got in the way, but I can't help to notice that the man reading from "Blood of Amber" here is having fun.
And if art is a human attempt to express and encapsulate a human experience into a medium, and then transfer that experience to another human through that medium - he was clearly creating art.

As for Lord of Light...
I know, I know... I should be smarter than that.
But there is a 12-year-old me somewhere in the back of my mind simply wanting "More!". That's what I meant with that "trilogy".
Though...
A prequel is basically already sketched out right there in the book, and a collection of stories about "Further adventures of Light and Death" would have been awesome and you know it. :)

Re:What are you talking about?

[thomst]

denzacar commented:

The man was a word wizard, not a character conjurer.

As such, he could squeeze art into and out of even the most prosaic stories, but his heroes all look alike.

There is some truth to what you say - but only some. I think Sam's character in Lord of Light definitely evolves over the course of the novel, starting right at the beginning, where the attempt to stick him with a damaged corpus stirs him out of his self-satisfied self-absorption into open rebellion against a system he has tacitly supported since the end of the conquest phase of the colonization process. Likewise, his friendship with Death, and many of his other relationship changes represent character evolution. Same thing with Francis Sandow in Isle of the Dead - by the end of the book he becomes less self-involved, and he develops a sense of empathy with others that he almost entirely lacked at its beginning.

Und so weiter.

And my only problem with his work is the same problem I have with his collaborations - not enough Zelazny.

And of those, Deus Irae makes me most... irate. Damn, are those bits by P.K. Dick clashing with those by Zelazny.

With Dick winning, as it's the only Zelazny book that left me depressed in the end.

I kinda had the same reaction. Of all Zelazny's collaborations, that one was the least interesting/satisfying. However, in his prefatory note to his short story A Hand Across the Galaxay, he confesses, "I was privileged to do a book in collaboration with the late Philip K. Dick - having long admired his ability to run reality through a wringer, a paper shredder and a high-speed blender in rapid succession, and then to reassemble the results into things rare and strange." That clarified for me that Zelazny was as much of a fanboy where PKD was concerned as the fat kid in the pizza-stained tee shirt at Octocon II was of his - so it's a little less surprising to me now that Zelazny took such a back seat to Dick in writing Deus Irae. Being awestruck by someone is a poor psychological starting point for collaborating with him. It starts the relationship off on a footing so unequal that it's likely never to achieve anything like a real peer basis.

Or, at least, that's my take.

Regarding your encounter with Zelazny and a fan, I am again having a feeling that you are projecting a bit there.

With all due respect, I was there. You were not. And I definitely was not projecting. Zelazny spent a good twenty continuous minutes behaving like a man being tortured - and the more that ur-Comic Book Guy piled on the praise, the more tormented he looked. I'll stipulate that suffering the praise of an obvious fool is an ordeal in itself, but there was clearly more to his reaction than that.

I never did have a chance to meet him in person, years, oceans an wars got in the way, but I can't help to notice that the man reading from "Blood of Amber" here is having fun.

Clearly Zelazny is enjoying both his own cleverness, and the audience's unrestrained and obvious enjoyment of that cleverness. And, yes, the excerpt he's reading is very funny and slyly self-referential (which could only have added to his enjoyment of reading it to his public). However, public performance provides unique pleasures to the performer that need not necessarily be credited to the source material. Applause is a highly addictive drug - as a long-time performing musician, I can attest to that personally. That Zelazny reveled in it, is unsurprising, particularly in view of his background as a teaching professor and a sensei.

As for Lord of Light...

I know, I know... I should be smarter than that.

But there is a 12-year-old me somewhere in the back of my mind simply wanting "More!". That's what I meant with that "trilogy".

Though...

A prequel is basically already

Re:What are you talking about?

[denzacar]

I think Sam's character in Lord of Light definitely evolves over the course of the novel, starting right at the beginning, where the attempt to stick him with a damaged corpus stirs him out of his self-satisfied self-absorption into open rebellion against a system he has tacitly supported since the end of the conquest phase of the colonization process.

Naah... Sam had it all planned long ago. It's not by coincidence that he chose an identity of Prince Siddhartha - i.e. the Buddha.
Or that he came to the city with his troops. And his personal physician.
Or that he went on an information gathering mission before he made contact with Brahma.
He was plotting a battle with heaven long before that.
One man, brief in space, must spread his opposition across a period of many years if he is to have a chance of succeeding.
And all that.

And I definitely was not projecting. Zelazny spent a good twenty continuous minutes behaving like a man being tortured - and the more that ur-Comic Book Guy piled on the praise, the more tormented he looked. I'll stipulate that suffering the praise of an obvious fool is an ordeal in itself, but there was clearly more to his reaction than that.

Well... maybe not the precisely right choice of words.
What I'm saying is, perhaps your own dislike of the material that fanboy was praising (Amber), makes it all appear to you much more... serious, than it actually was.
E.g. Had the fanboy been discussing Lord of Light instead, perhaps you would have seen less "torture and torment" and more simple boredom and discomfort from having to politely stand there and take it - praises and same old comments he probably heard thousand times already, pouring over him without end when he was probably already tired.

Again, I see nothing in the Amber Chronicles that would indicate that he was not having fun while he was writing them. Or that he "sold out".

But that wouldn't exactly qualify as a "trilogy", would it?

Potato, potahto... Two more books (at least) were right there, between the pages and chapters of the Lord of Light.
And I would love to be able to read them. Alas...

Anywho, clearly you and I disagree about the Amber Decology. Otherwise, mebbe not so much.

There's no need for disagreement as such.
We could just be having a discussion, voicing opinions, exchanging ideas, talking about the subject of Zelazny's work...
Just because we are on the internet, doesn't mean we have to take sides and argue about them.

K. W. Jeter

[GrandGranini]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._W._Jeter

Invented Cyberpunk ("Dr. Adder", published in 1984, but written much, much earlier, and delayed due to graphic and extremely weird sexual content).

Invented and coined the term Steampunk ("Morlock Night", 1979).

Wrote the book with arguably the biggest number of cool scenes ever ("Farewell Horizontal", 1989). Seriously, read it. This book is nuts.

Also, was a very good friend of Phillip K. Dick's.

Jeter's output in the 80's was nothing sort of astounding. Sadly, he was reduced to doing a lot of hack work in his Star Wars and Bladerunner novels later on, and is all but forgotten today.

Robert Sheckley

[pmarinus]

My first step into the world of science fiction was a copy of his "Untouched by Human Hands" which I found among my grandfathers books when I was 12.
Is Norman Spinrad underrated? He was one of my favorite "young" authors back in the early 70s

Matthew Hughes

[Anonymous Coward]

If you like Jack Vance, I would strongly recommend looking at Matthew Hughes. His stories set in the Archonate have a strong Vancian flavor.

Michael A. Stackpole

[Anonymous Coward]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_A._Stackpole

I think Mike Stakpole's work hasn't been noticed by enough people. I particularly like his Age of Discovery trilogy. There's also his Star Wars stuff, like the X-Wing novels and I, Jedi... but I think his best stuff is set in his own worlds.

Spider Robinson

[McSnarf]

Spider should absolutely be on the list!
With the third Lady Sally book still unsold and currently busy writing sequels to his "inherited" Heinlein book, there's hopefully more to come. Utterly different SF, but worth reading.

BRAVO!

[PotatoHead]

Yep, that's about where I ended up too. Nice post.

Iain M. Banks

[moeinvt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Banks

That's a name you don't hear often.

I thought "Consider Phlebas" was excellent, and "Excession" was brilliant.

"Use of Weapons" and "The Player of Games" were interesting, but not "great" IMO.

not exactly...

[Anonymous Coward]

however, Green has written much space opera.

Tim Powers -- because his stories are well crafted and erudite.
Simon Green -- the stories seems throw-away, garbage, but it takes skill to be a populist writer and create a good story with strong characterizations in the least number of sentences (unlike Sherrilyn Kenyon, for example, who is very popular, but whose writing is awful).

Bruce Bretthauer

[Vlad_the_Inhaler]

New, pretty much unknown. Addictive. http://kassandras-song.com/free_stories

Charles Stross

[Anonymous Coward]

Does for posthumanism what Asimov did for robotics

Too many

[Anonymous Coward]

Leiber, Simak, Vance, Sheri Teper, all the big eastern europeans (Lem, the Strugatskijs etc), George Stewart, Joanna Stewart and many many more.

R.A. Lafferty

[gestalt_n_pepper]

Funny, original and like nothing you've ever read before. Lafferty is the literary equivalent of taking a strong hallucinogenic. A wild and sometimes wonderful ride.

Neal Asher

[Anonymous Coward]

Not groundbreaking, more violence than I would like, and relatively poor character development, but nevertheless a really good read. One of my top three favorite writers along with Alastair Reynolds and maybe Gene Wolfe.

Gene Wolfe

[SJester]

Absolutely Wolfe. He was a writer's writer, with strong but silent Hemingway-ish protagonists who told the story by what they did not say. Wrote a series "The Book of the New Sun" where the main character is a congenial and level-headed torturer on a dying Earth far in the future. Mr. Wolfe also developed the machine that makes Pringles. How could such genius be overlooked?

A. E. van Vogt and Melissa Scott

[Anonymous Coward]

Definitely underappreciated. And falling out of favor, James Blish, Alfred Bester, John Wyndham ...

For post-apocalyptic fiction, you can't beat The Chrysalids (Wyndham) and Empire of the Atom/The Wizard of Linn (van Vogt). Alfred Bester's representation of telepathic society renders Anne McCaffey superficial and unimaginative, and the scale of Blish's Cities in Flight is breathtaking (although its depiction of women is a sad product of its time). Melissa Scott's Roads of Heaven has the most original space flight concept I've ever read, and her later books built around the development of AI are excellent.

Robert Sheckley

[mlnease]

Mindswap! http://www.scribd.com/doc/35996274/Robert-Sheckley-Mindswap

Brian Lumley, David Gerrold

[phorm]

His books are somewhat of a pseudosci-fi fantasy horror genre, but many of the Necroscope series were quite good.

Overall some of the ways he described the working and transfer of the vampiric virus were quite cool.

I would also submit David Gerrold's Ch'torr series, except that it seems to have stalled for nearly the last decade, and I worry that he's going to pull a (Robert) Jordan before it gets completed.

Cory Doctorow

[Anonymous Coward]

Makers, Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, Little Brother. His works cover more near-future sci-fi, which makes them thought provoking about where technology is heading in the next 50-100 years (especially Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom) and the implications of those technologies. His name might be known in a few geekier circles, but his works are underappreciated and under read, especially for being CC licensed.

S. M. Stirling

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't follow the popularity of authors, so he might well be very popular already -- but I've never met anyone else who's read him.

His Emberverse series, in particular, was excellent. It might be more fantasy than Sci-fi, but the series is the result of some unexplained phenomenon (deus ex machina) that robs the earth of electricity (or concentrated energy in general). No guns, combustion, even steam-power. All set in 1998 Oregon -- basically.

Walter Jon Williams

[whitroth]

Hardwired is as good as anything any of the other big name cyberpunk authors did. Then there's his comedy series....

Ignoring the idiot trolls, most of the other authors I've seen mentioned had a *lot* of awards, and are quite well known and appreciated. Well, Doc Smith - go read Skylark of Space, and remember a) he started writing it, with the help of a female friend, b) it was first published in 1928, and only slightly revised in the late fifties. Science, adventures, and not a screaming heroine in sight... AND it was the first startship out of the solar system.

                                  mark

Strugatsky brothers, Robert Merle, Kir Bulichov

[Anonymous Coward]

Alexandre Belyaev, Luben Dilov (Ikar's Path, awesome) and pretty much anyone not using latin alphabet.

Re:Strugatsky brothers, Robert Merle, Kir Bulichov

[Anonymous Coward]

It is The Trip of Icarus. How silly...

Re:Strugatsky brothers, Robert Merle, Kir Bulichov

[baddcarma]

Kir Bulichov, just like many other Russian sci-fi writers, are pretty much unknown to the West. He is excellent.

Another obscure, but brilliant Russian sci-fi writer is Sever Gansovski - with short stories like "Poligon", "Day of Fury", etc.: http://tinyurl.com/c6eygs4 , see also: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11119

George O. Smith - Venus Equilateral

[mrmtampa]

A brilliant engineer, contemporary and friend of Heinlein and Hubbard.

My father was a friend of his; we lived in the same building in Jackson Heights when I was in elementary school, and we moved into his old apartment when he moved to New Jersey. My father used to say that Scientology began as an argument between Hubbard, Heinlein and Smith in that kitchen. Through the years that apartment probably hosted every member of the "Trap Door Spiders". I wish I had met them all! He did introduce me to Willy Ley and of course I had no idea who he was until "Rockets, Missiles, and Space Travel, (1957)" was published.

M John Harrison - Viriconium series was incredible

[Mephistophles]

He's a writer's writer -- quality of prose was amazing, learned a new word on just about every page.

Stephen R. Donaldon

[Dissident]

His Gap Cycle is brilliant but is barely even listed, if at all, in most "top 100" sci-fi series lists. The portrayal of mankind's antithesis the alien Amnion, and their 'technologies', physiology and psychology are very original. The writing style is dark, hard edged sci-fi without dependence on all the scientific marvels typically separating the characters from space and space travel, so often leveraged in science fiction writing. There is no anti-gravity, just centrifugal force. He uses physics like a mallet to pound the cast of characters and the reader with the hard, cold realities of life in space. It's reminiscent, at times, of classic Arthur C. Clark describing the effects of starlight and gravity on the insides of a Rama vessel and its occupants.

The series also does a wonderful job of paralleling mini and macro power struggles across multiple levels: humanity vs. a very alien Manion, military forces vs. corporate powers, ship to ship combat, antagonist vs. protagonist.

This literary style combined with a blatant attempt to pay homage to Wagner's Ring Cycle makes for a truly unique science fiction series. An underlying device in the series is the rotation from book to book of protagonist, antagonist, victim and tormentor. It's hard to describe what makes it work and still feel believable, authentic and engaging, but somehow it is.

Janet Kagan

[CadmannWeyland]

"Mirabile" is a great read

Did Ayn Rand really claim that?

[walterbyrd]

But her real con was convincing people that when someone else is suffering, you have no moral obligation to help them out.

Ayn Rand did not oppose charity. But Ayn Rand thought it should be voluntary, nor forced by government.

Re:Did Ayn Rand really claim that?

[DuckDodgers]

She did not oppose it, but she did not encourage it or consider it to be virtuous in any way. So Dagny Taggert and John Galt (two of her biggest heroes) could walk past starving children with, in her view, a clear conscience.

If private charity was enough to solve problems of starvation and inadequate medical care in the United States, the problem would have been solved already. It was not, so clearly something else needs to be done. That doesn't mean we should write our politicians a blank check to tackle the problem, they can abuse their power or make well intentioned awful decisions very easily. But it is not acceptable to assert that we should simply let natural selection take its course and have no obligation to fix it, as if unlucky Americans have a right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness but not life itself.

Ed Howdershelt

[DadLeopard]

Not Stellar, but deserves much better than he has gotten. He writes some really enjoyable SF, if on the Racy side! His stuff is only available in eBook formats form various places, but his website http://www.abintrapress.com/ has a deal for 33 of his books for $30.00. His 3rd World Products series is like eating pistachios, very hard to quit after the first one!

Clifford Simiak, "Time is the Simpest Thing"

[doom]

Agreed.

The original title as a serial in Astounding wasn't bad, either: "The Fisherman" (you have to like biblical references, though).

"Time is the Simplest Thing" is a good example of a book that works really well as SF-- it *feels* like an SF novel, not Fantasy-- without having much in the way of a hard scientific or technical basis.

Olaf Stapledon

[cundare]

Maybe I'm just showing my age, but I still consider Stapledon's 1930 quasi-novel "Last and First Men" to define "epic" science fiction forty years after reading it for the first time. Decades before "cosmic" scope became science-fiction cliche (and long before the concept of natural selection had been accepted by the overwhelming majority of rational human beings), he penned this epoch-spanning story of the evolution of past, present, future, and "final" human species. Check his brief Wikipedia page. Only a few of his other works approached the audacity and imagination of L&FM, but IMHO that work alone earns him a place in the pantheon.

John Steakley

[Anonymous Coward]

John Steakley, author of "Armor." Stunning, deep, and brilliant, worth several reads.

A Plausible Universe to Explore

[dipskinny]

When it comes to plausible, space exploration & sci-fi, I have been impressed with & influenced by the "Academy" series of books by Jack McDevitt (The Engines of God, DeepSix, Chindi, etc.). Of course he allows for the invention of faster-than-light travel, but other than that, McDevitt pays special attention to a future that is both plausible & fascinating ... not easy to do. His stories are a little slow b/c he takes time to explain the technology and how the human race got to where it is. He also pays special attention to the field of xenoarchaeology. Look it up!

Earl Mac Rauch

[tlambert]

Screenwriter and author of Buckaroo Banzai.

The AquaNox series!

[GodGell]

For me it would undoubtedly be Helmut Halfmann, who wrote the story for the AquaNox game series, which are (sadly) the cornerstone of vastly underrated brilliance.

It started way back in 1996 with Archimedean Dynasty, a DOS game that had (for the time) advanced 3D graphics, a long and exciting nonlinear storyline, dialogue where you get to choose what your character says and it actually makes a difference, splendind environments and extendable vehicles, and above all, a great story.

This world is a post-apocalyptic dystopian future, where humanity has destroyed the Earth's surface to the point of uninhabitability by the mid-22nd century, and, lacking sufficient space tech, the only way to survive was to migrate into the oceans where the water provides a strong enough shield from the radiation. The games play in the 2660s, when humanity has completely forgotten what life on the surface was like.

A deeply troubled society living in a completely hostile environment, breathing artificial breathing gases that mess with their heads, living in amazing yet depressing underwater cities where no sunlight ever goes. Imagine that with some of the most brilliantly and disturbingly atmospheric soundtracks ever put into a computer game, and what you have are the sequels AquaNox (2001) and AquaNox 2: Revelation (~2003).

The story was so intricately worked out that to this day I can still see it happening; there was a timeline starting from the 21st century that detailed the events that led to the world you see in the games, and I remember getting the chills and thinking "HOLY SHIT!" when I realized that some of these fictional events have since then actually happened and some are looking more and more plausible by the day.

Call me a fanatic (which I am), but the day I got a copy of AquaNox bundled with an old Geforce video card was the day when gaming started for me (even though I didn't even understand a word of it because it was in English) and the day Massive Development went under was the day it ended. Every single game I've played since then only managed to get ONE of these things right, at best. When was the last time you played a game that kept you imagining being in that world for days after you've played it, that kept you replaying over and over because of the sheer atmosphere, or one where you extracted the game's sound files (ahem) just so you could listen to the ambient music for hours on end? When was the last time you played a game like that, and at the end you thought, "holy shit, this could actually happen?"

John M. Ford

[Anonymous Coward]

One of my top five. But he would never write the same book twice, or even the same style. A prediction of the web in Web of Angels, space opera in Princes of the Air, fantasy with elves in The Last Hot Time, Star Trek from the Klingon point of view in The Final Reflection, musical comedy Star Trek in How Much for Just the Planet?, dragon fantasy in The Dragon Waiting, even a 1980s spy novel in The Scholars of Night. Oh, and a coming of age novel set on the moon in Growing Up Weightless. All good books. Available in your local used bookstore.

Howard Tayler

[Zinho]

Burning karma to plug my favorite sci-fi author, Howard Tayler. His major opus is Schlock Mercenary, a web comic about ambulatory excrement working for a company of space marines for hire. Really, it's better than it sounds! And it's delivered the funny every day without fail since 12 June, 2007.

I'm comfortable submitting him as "underappreciated" due to the obscure medium he's chosen - not a lot of recognition to be gained as a comic artist. Howard's comic demonstrates, though, that thought-provoking hard sci-fi can be delivered in a format other than the novel.

Lots of Simak on Kindle for Free

[Tekfactory]

Look him up on Amazon and then look at the price for the Kindle Editions, most of them are free.

The Iron Dragon's Daughter

[Anonymous Coward]

Michael Swanwick without a doubt.

Walter Jon Williams, sort of.

[tillerman35]

"Under-appreciated" is a hard word. Most of what I've seen posted above are authors who were pretty well appreciated.

I think Walter Jon Williams' book "Aristoi" counts as under-appreciated because it was in the running for a Hugo award- but wasn't selected. The ideas and concepts put forth in that novel, and the clarity and believability of the universe/society that he created made it one of the best sci-fi books I have ever read. I understand that that year had a lot of other good candidates for the award, but I've always felt his was still head and shoulders above the rest of the field. He really should have won.

I can't promote him as an under-appreciated author, though. His other books, while mildly entertaining, simply did not reach the level that Aristoi did. If that had been his only novel, he'd have been on my list of "shoulda-beens." As it stands, he's a one-hit wonder. But WHAT a wonder. Man, if his other stuff had been even half as good as Aristoi, I'd have cleared him a whole shelf in my library. Good author. Great book.

(I've often wondered if he feels the same way about the comparative merit of his other works)

Re:Walter Jon Williams, sort of.

[whitroth]

You didn't think Hardwired was Hugo material? And the funny series about the remitance man (I'm still waiting for another), with bad jokes even in the titles? Humor's not real common in SF.

                mark

James H. Schmitz

[Mike Van Pelt]

"The Witches of Karres" seems to get the most attention, but that one kind of left me cold. I much preferred the Telzy Amberdon stories. Yeah, psi powers, which kind of pushes it towards the "fantasy" border, but it's handled very much in a science-fiction/space opera sort of way.

My favorite of his that I can think of right off is "The Tuvela", a.k.a. "The Demon Breed". Not much psi in that one (maybe none; Nile Etland doesn't have any psi powers I recall... she's just very, very competent.) Great "One really pissed-off woman vs. an alien invasion. Pity the aliens" story.

James H. Schmitz

[nothings]

James H. Schmitz was a Sci-Fi writer published from the 40s to the 70s. He mostly wrote short stories (most in a common setting, often with one of two specific lead characters), though he wrote a few (short) novels.

He was an early feminist author; most of the his lead characters are strong females (Telzey Amberdon and Trigger Argee are the leads in many of his short stories, and the main lead in the novel The Demon Breed is a woman). His most famous work, the novel The Witches of Karres, is a picaresque, wildly imaginitive space-romp (although rather overtly expanded from a novelette).

In one (or more?) stories, he imagines an Internet-like source of information, and (IIRC) even calls it a "web".

In the 2000s, most of his works were republished by Baen Books, with sometimes significant interference^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H editing by Eric Flint.

Hal Clement or EE Smith

[Anonymous Coward]

Those are older authors who's stories still travel well.

Hal Clement made the most outrageous 'worlds' hang together. Look at Iceworld or Needle. Also, there is A Mission of Gravity. Clement was doing 'hard' science Fiction back when the ray gun and space rocket set was dominating the field. Just fantasy with different props ala Andre Norton. Mr. Clement was a chemist.

EE Smith was the undisputed king of the Space Opera in the 1930's and 1940's. He was also a physicist. His main tool was to imagine that we could eliminate one of the laws of nature.

I should also probably mention Constantine Tsiolkovsky. He is often credited as some sort of 'Father of the Space Age', but what he really did was write books that were mostly explanations of how people MIGHT live. It was really fiction at the time. It was Goddard who figured out how to make a controllable rocket.

Honesty, you Slashdotters seem to think that the fiction of 10 or 15 years ago is ancient. What about folks who were writing exciting stories where science drives the story back in the 1930's through the 1960's. John W Campbell for instance, who mentored Asimov, Heinlein and Clarke. The world didn't start back in 1979 after all. Even the Unix Clock is older than that!

Michael Marshall Smith

[Anonymous Coward]

I really enjoyed "Only Forward" and "Spares"

Why I post less on Slashdot.. Fuck it.

[Anonymous Coward]

I used to post a lot here, and I have posted as AC on topic on this thread which is close to my heart. Guess what - I have loaded all comments, and I still cannot find my post. Entering phrases in Chrome's page search, which I know were relatively unique, doesn't find it for me either.

I'm sick of posting with an account (not that this helps anyway) since recent algorithmic developments can be used to profile your posts. I hate this new /. format. Fuck it, I'm going back to work. Or sleep. Might as well post into the ether when your post cannot be seen or found. What a mammoth design failure. Fuck u /. Goodbye.

Re:Why I post less on Slashdot.. Fuck it.

[darue]

yeah, I had the same problem, and trouble following discussions. I just switched back to the "classic" mode. much better.

D.F. Jones

[NikeHerc]

I vote for D.F. Jones as being most under-appreciated. He wrote the Colossus trilogy, Denver is Missing, Earth Has Been Found, and others. I've read all his works listed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Feltham_Jones except for Bound in Time.

His work was not always spectacular; Implosion, for example, has a weak ending. However, IMHO, Earth Has Been Found remains the best science fiction ever written, with Denver is Missing being a close runner-up.

Ann Maxwell

[djl4570]

Ann Maxwell - A Dead God Dancing and Name of a Shadow.
Too bad romance novels pay better or she might still write Sci-Fi.

AE Van Vogt

[Macklyn]

Oh to be a Silkie!

Re:libertarianism, socialism not mutually exclusiv

[Anonymous Coward]

The only way they are not mutually exclusive is if the socialism is somehow consensual; give according to your own choice. If the government is the socialist institution and the common means are 'taken' rather than 'given' by the individuals, then the libertarianism is just a wish.

You could have pockets of socialism within a greater Libertarian society so long as membership in, 'taxes' to, and departure from those pockets is totally up to the individuals involved. A medical care 'community'. A food production and sharing community. But not big-S state Socialism.

Rosel George Brown

[hicksw]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosel_Brown

Noticed a bit in her time, but long out of print,

My incomplete pulp paperback collection is bagged up - spine glue was 40 years old and gave out.

Robert Young

[Anonymous Coward]

Just anything by him!

Lois McMaster Bujold

[Anonymous Coward]

The whole naismith series had it all for me. Forward momentum!

C. M. Kornbluth

[surd1618]

for illuminating the foibles of humans, Kornbluth had directness

I've got points

[Meski]

But I wanted to post, not as AC

Colin Kapp
Stanislaw Lem
Tim Powers (more on the fantasy side than SF)
L Beam Piper

Still can't answer simple questions?

[Anonymous Coward]

Does DirectX run on MacOS X or Linux (and natively)?

Re:Still can't answer simple questions?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, versions of DirectX API have been implemented on Linux and OSX.

Any proof?

[Anonymous Coward]

Do you have proof? Show us a citation of that from a reputable source and that it runs natively (not WINE etc.).

Re:Any proof?

[Anonymous Coward]

Wine runs natively and includes a reimplementation of the DirectX API.

That's not native, it's EMULATED

[Anonymous Coward]

Plus, I doubt it's DirectX at its current latest + bugfree & able to run ALL games that use DirectX: Thus, making Linux inferior (and possibly MacOS X also).

* After all: Since Windows CAN do BOTH OpenGL + DirectX natively and Linux & MacOS X cannot natively for DirectX, & at their "latest-greatest"? Thus, Windows does more, natively & at the "latest-greatest" builds of BOTH 3d display engines, Windows does more & is thus, superior...

APK

P.S.=> Pure common-sense, & it's where I've been taking YOU here, the entire time - a "trolley ride for a troll", like yourself... ... apk

Re:That's not native, it's EMULATED

[Anonymous Coward]

Considering you can compile against Wine's implementation of DirectX to make a binary that uses it as a library... just like you would against the DirectX dll on Windows, that is about as native as it gets.

WINE = emulated (!=native)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Not run by an "emulation" system like WINE -> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/ which IS a "WINdows Emulator"...

* Now, "cry" *all-you-like*, still - facts, are FACTS, & quite "unassailable"... JUST like ME, lol!

(When you have to play "catch up ball"/"me too" tactics, you're not innovating, you're imitating, & that's what WINE is which of course, adds layers of complexity (which usually means SLOW DOWNS or mistakes + less than ABSOLUTELY FULL NATIVE COMPATIBILITY also).

You fail... you know it, I KNOW IT, & now? Everyone, knows it... & so does Linux on that account, as well as MacOS X!

APK

P.S.=> Additionally, I'd doubt it runs "the latest/greatest" version-build of DirectX as well (but, that I am NOT 110% certain of, I just knew Windows could do MORE, & thus, is superior (not only in marketshare, but ability))... ... apk

Re:WINE = emulated (!=native)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, I didn't realize WINE stood for WINdoes Emulator, I guess I was wrong.

Re:WINE = emulated (!=native)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Now you know, which is WHY I cited the source I did... glad to assist!

APK

P.S.=> See this link I posted earlier -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40940353 it goes a lot more into detail... apk

Re:WINE = emulated (!=native)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

That doesn't go into more detail, that is just a copy paste of APK's post from some where else. Why not link to the original?

You should apologize

[Anonymous Coward]

An apology would be appropriate for speaking so rudely to someone about a topic you are not familiar with.

Re:You should apologize

[Anonymous Coward]

I sincerely apologize for being rude. I kind of had a sheltered life working with only open-source software, and didn't realize how things actually worked.

APOLOGY ACCEPTED (You avoid questions though)

[Anonymous Coward]

About time you wised up!

APK

P.S.=> Still, you evaded disproving facts I used, and avoided a question!

Multiple people alright: Sock puppets

[Anonymous Coward]

Here's a fact from "one of your own" in regard to my subject:

"It just takes one Ubuntu sympathizer or PR flack to minus-moderate any comment. Unfortunately, once PR agencies and so on started paying people to moderate online communities, and to have hundreds of accounts each, things changed." - by Bruce Perens (3872) on Friday July 30, @03:55PM (#33089192) Homepage Journal

From http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1738364&cid=33089192

"Or maybe multiple people find you have atrocious communication skills, even if they completely agree with the facts and points you try to use." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, @01:00PM (#40869855)

I use facts, and the FACT you & yours "blow it" vs. myself and those facts is your OWN fault, not mine!

NOW, lol, you're using the "std. failed troll modus operandi" of grammar/writing interpretation, which makes me laugh because YOU PROVED YOU CAN'T READ (transactinos vs. rows, anyone? LMAO!)

So, you're trying to pass it off as "poor communication skills" on my end, lol, see above!

That is pretty bad, when you:

---

1.) Tried putting words in my mouth I never stated - that I said "MS IS BEST/ONLY WAY" etc./et al

2.) YOU blew it on rows vs. transactions

3.) Redundancy in power supplies

4.) The fact MS has clustering OS versions & DB engines that handle it also

5.) ... but perhaps most of all, never having DONE such work & I have? ... & more? Please...

---

The bogus downmods of my posts + stalking me by ac posts alone show "what you're made of/your 'modus operandi'"!

LOL... talk about obvious.

You're full of it, & you FAIILED... no questions asked.

* Again, Thanks for making ME, look good...

(I see you ran outta mod points too, lol.... no more downmods of my replies, eh? Especially ones that can't disprove points-of-fact I used!)

Better start using your multiple sockpuppet alternate registered 'luser' accounts now to downmod this too, lol!

APK

P.S.=> Ah, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style", you just KNOW I've just GOTTA SAY IT:

This? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'", & it always is, because your blunders make it so for me... ... apk

Larry Niven

[Anonymous Coward]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Niven

I can't prove it and an apology for trolling

[Anonymous Coward]

Apology for not taking my meds. I admit apk is right and that I am an off topic troll who has issues since apk has gotten the best of me so many times online I have to hide under pure anonymous coward posts off topic the entire time. I am no man, and am truly an anonymous wuss.

APOLOGY ACCEPTED YET AGAIN

[Anonymous Coward]

About time you took those meds of yours!

APK

P.S.=> You never did tell me how your words tasted though, lmao, when you had to "eat them" ( lol ), flavored with "the bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT" & your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH (lmao), due to shooting your mouth off, and yet again? Facts did you in, here -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40876769

Re:APOLOGY ACCEPTED YET AGAIN

[Anonymous Coward]

My words taste like failure and sunchokes.

Re:APOLOGY ACCEPTED YET AGAIN

[Anonymous Coward]

WTF is a sunchoke?

Re:APOLOGY ACCEPTED YET AGAIN

[Anonymous Coward]

See here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunchoke.

Glad to be of help again.

APK

Tastes good?

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah, that is why you keep eating your words then http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753

Truth is always on topic

[Anonymous Coward]

Truth's always the subject. This is truth -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40926387 it's not hiding behind anything, it's just truth and fact. Sometimes truth hurts, but don't let it make you cry! It's only truth, see link above.

Re:Truth is always on topic

[Anonymous Coward]

Funny, when someone tried to show you some truth, you said it was off-topic http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40921545.

Re:Truth is always on topic

[Anonymous Coward]

You were off topic. Still, eventually earth's sun will go supernova.

Still, you avoided simple questions that were on-topic. The answer was there though -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40930575 .

* Thus, by common-sense alone, Windows is CLEARLY, superior - whereas by way of comparison? Linux &/or MacOS X apparently do NOT!

APK

P.S.=> "Here endeth the lesson", & of course, you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style":

This? Ah, yes... This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'"... lol, & it ALWAYS is, vs. noobish "Pro-*NIX trolls" on /. ... ... apk

Jack L Chalker

[Ed Woychowsky]

Chalker is still my favorite. Any other fans out there?

Holy failed to self-medicate, Batman

[Anonymous Coward]

And holy crap, check out the link the to the science.slashdot link above to an article on LHC... or better yet, don't check it out. Over 200 posts of this crazy fuck's bullshit.

Re:Holy failed to self-medicate, Batman

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the ac stalker apk has. You fail on OpenGL vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045 Everyone sees you stalk him by anonymous coward posts and they see you constantly fail on technical computing material on the topic at hand as you do in the link above. Get over your geek angst, take your meds and shock therapy already. Do you think we're not intelligent enough to see you stalk and impersonate apk? I'm one of many that know you do and stated it plainly along with other posters here. Your problem is you think people are stupid. We're not.

Michael Kube-McDowell and Thomas J. Ryan

[Taed]

While I haven't read all of Kube-McDowell's novels, I've read most. His first, _Emprise_, is wonderful --I've read it maybe 5 times over the years, though the sequels are so-so. He has a few other good ones, and a few misses. Allegedly, his Star Wars novels are pretty good. As far as I know, _The Adolescence of P-1_ is Ryan's only novel, but what a gem it is. I've read it about every 5 years since 1977. One of the first intelligent computer novels.

Re:libertarianism, socialism not mutually exclusiv

[PJ6]

The only way they are not mutually exclusive is if the socialism is somehow consensual; give according to your own choice. If the government is the socialist institution and the common means are 'taken' rather than 'given' by the individuals, then the libertarianism is just a wish.

You could have pockets of socialism within a greater Libertarian society so long as membership in, 'taxes' to, and departure from those pockets is totally up to the individuals involved. A medical care 'community'. A food production and sharing community. But not big-S state Socialism.

By 'big-S' you really mean Totalitarianism, which is a political system, not an economic one - even if one of its concerns is indeed economic control.

You are linking two different things together

[dbIII]

OK, should have said more than three decades since I was reading his stuff in a small school library in Australia in the 1970s, which didn't have many science fiction books at all. Worldwide success and hundreds of thousands sold is not obscurity. Winning a Hugo award for best novel is not obscurity IMHO. That's why I disagree, back when I was growing up he was one of the big names in SF and at least one of his books was available wherever SF books were sold. The literary mainstream didn't like him but they didn't like any SF.

Re:You are linking two different things together

[dbIII]

What's more, you are quoting somebody else! The three decades was "supercrisp", and in my school library he was there with Asimov, Wells, Verne, Wyndam and Heinlein - with no space for anyone else.

Greg Bear

[Anonymous Coward]

Blood Music

Trolls impersonating me, again? LMAO!

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject-line, & apparently others even know I didn't post that. It is MY material from a far earlier post though -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985

Thus, anyone reading here now knows where it's originally coming from in myself, the REAL me & FAR earlier than this one, and where it was on topic as rebuttal material!

(Which the ac troll there didn't like & tried this same trick in another post linking to where he did it before, here -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40886599 AND, he blew it there altering my data and being caught in it (see Baylor there))!

He led me to this one also, from here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40940621

Proof's right there, same modus operandi all week: The ac troll stalking me gets dusted by FACTS I use, then impersonates me in other threads... lol, wtf!

(The "linux trolls" around here have some idea I suspect to anger the other less stupid linux people around here, and to make me "look bad" - never will happen!)

* Not as long as they do these shoddy impersonations of myself, using data from posts I did long before to do so...

So the post I am replying to now? Imposter!

It is an impostor who's been "stalking" me here by ac posts for months to years now.

(Pitiful!)

APK

P.S.=> I don't go THAT far off-topic, & certainly not in a post about a genre of literature (it's often called "the literature of change" no less) I really love, in Sci-Fi:

In fact?

The ONLY post I made here in this article's responses was in response to one of my favs, in H.P. Lovecraft -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40929283

Re:Trolls impersonating me, again? LMAO!

[Anonymous Coward]

"The ONLY post I made here in this article's responses was in response to one of my favs, in H.P. Lovecraft -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40929283 [slashdot.org]"

You only made that after you realize you went too far here, and are trying to cover your ass.

Re:Trolls impersonating me, again? LMAO!

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the ac stalker apk has. You failed on OpenGL vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045 and you impersonated him 3 or 4 times this week already. Many posters state the same. Your problem is you think we're that dumb. We're not.

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputa

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to criminal Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to criminal coward Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to criminal coward scum Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

How to make Ayn Rand look good...

[Anonymous Coward]

Wow, this poster makes Ayn Rand looks like a GENIUS by comparison.

You failed again troll: Eat your words

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

You FAIL troll: Eat your words (quoted)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

Ac troll failed here too: Eating his words

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, or impersonate me as you have here and were caught in, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

Impersonating me? Please... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject-line above: You failed HERE too, hilarious!

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME as you have here - only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apkb

Ac troll had to "eat his words" yet again (lol)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATE ME as you tried here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

AC had to eat his words AGAIN (lmao)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apkb

Ac troll had to eat his words again (quoted)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apkb

Ac troll impersonates me AGAIN? LOL!

[Anonymous Coward]

Too bad you had to "eat your words" again too (quoted):

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apkb

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to incorrect Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the ac troll that stalks and impersonates apk. APK's right.

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

No, APK's right. It's obvious you're the ac stalker he has n you failed.

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

No, apk's right. You're the ac stalker he has that impersonates him and fails like you did again on OpenGL.

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

No, apk's right. You're the ac stalker troll he has. You fail OpenGL.

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the ac stalker apk has. You failed on OpenGL vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the ac stalker apk has. You fail on OpenGL vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You're an ac stalker apk has. You fail on OpenGL vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the ac stalker apk has. You failed on OpenGL vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the ac stalker apk has. You failed on OpenGL vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045 You fail at impersonating him here and in other threads 3 or 4 times now this week alone. You fail to be on topic. Triple fail troll is your name, lol!

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You stalk apk by ac n' fail on OpenGL vs. apk. AC troll = AC troll http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949041

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You stalk apk by ac n' fail on OpenGL vs. apk. AC troll = AC troll http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949041

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You stalk apk by ac n' fail on OpenGL vs. apk. AC troll = AC troll http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949041

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

We know you've no idea on OpenGL. You failed it vs. apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40950375

Re:You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

You blew it on OpenGL vs. APK here, ac troll, lol http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40949661

You FAILED again (eat your words)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATE ME as you did here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apkb

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to hideous Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

M

No, you fail again ac troll (eat your words)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to fake Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My r

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to bogus Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My

B.S.: You FAILED AGAIN, ac troll (eat your words)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525)

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to insidious pervert Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

B.S.: You FAILED AGAIN, ac troll (eat your words)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in yet again by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to pervert Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

M

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to objectively stupid Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

B.S.: You FAILED AGAIN, ac troll (eat your words)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME as you did here and were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

B.S.: You FAILED again, ac troll (eat your words)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

(You know, they're yours

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

Re:B.S.: You FAILED AGAIN, ac troll (eat your word

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to sex deviant Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a v

B.S.: You FAIL again, ac troll (eat your words)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME as you did here now only to be caught in it again by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

B.S.: You FAILED again, ac troll (eat your words)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/when/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so (how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME as you did here and other spots noted here, only to be caught by myself & othere here, and only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to waveform Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a vari

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

Re:B.S.: You FAILED AGAIN, ac troll (eat your word

[Anonymous Coward]

It's disprove, not disproof, dolt. You failed vs. apk on OpenGL http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40946045

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Ber

You fail at grammar too

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're same ac troll that failed vs. me on OpenGL

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

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How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

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2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

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3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here?...

... apk

You're same ac troll that failed vs. me on OpenGL

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here?...

... apk

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You fail OpenGL ac troll (quoted fail too)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here?...

... apk

You're same ac troll that failed vs. me on OpenGL

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3D BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here?...

... apk

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're same ac troll that failed vs. me on OpenGL

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here?...

... apk By the way -

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

Ac stalker troll fail vs. apk on OpenGL quoted?

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here?...

... apk

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

AC troll (you) FAIL vs. me quoted, on OpenGL

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here?...

... apk

Ac troll (you) FAIL vs. me on OpenGL (quoted)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here?...

... apkb

AC troll (you) FAIL vs. me on OpenGL (quoted)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here? Please, lmao...

... apk

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You FAIL (quoted) vs. me on OpenGL, ac troll (lol)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here? Please, lmao...

... apk

You FAIL (quoted) vs. me on OpenGL, ac troll (lol)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here? Please, lmao...

... apk

You FAIL (quoted) vs. me on OpenGL, ac troll (lol)

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here? Please, lmao...

... apk

They taste like "FAIL" vs. me on OpenGL, ac troll

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here? Please, lmao...

... apkb

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of ab

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted) vs. me on OpenGL

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here? Please, lmao...

... apk

AC trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted) vs. me on OpenGL

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here? Please, lmao...

... apk

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Get this through your thick skull -- I have no idea what the fuck "OpenGL" is because I am not a massive faggot. You've got the wrong bloke, squire.

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creat

Your "BIG FAIL" vs. me on OpenGL, quoted, ac troll

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here? Please, lmao...

... apk

We know you don't know OpenGL ac troll

[Anonymous Coward]

You failed miserably vs. apk on it here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343

You're replying to the wrong person, idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Get this through your thick skull -- I have no idea what the fuck "OpenGL" is because I am not a massive faggot. You've got the wrong bloke, squire.

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
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http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creat

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

[Anonymous Coward]

Get this through your thick skull -- I have no idea what the fuck "OpenGL" is because I am not a massive faggot. You've got the wrong bloke, squire.

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her

APK replies to wrong post, film at 11

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for

Re:APK replies to wrong post, film at 11

[Anonymous Coward]

ac troll you got OpenGL wrong vs apk. You failed http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=4094967

APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with wor

Re:APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

You blew it on OpenGL vs. APK here, ac troll, lol http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40949661

Re:APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

You blew it on OpenGL vs. APK ac troll, lol, here http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40949661

Re:APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

ac troll you blew it on OpenGL vs. APK here http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40949661

Re:APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

ac troll you blew it vs. APK on OpenGL here http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=409496

Re:APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

ac troll you blew it vs. APK on OpenGL here http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40950375

Re:APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

apk dusted you on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and blew you away on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll.

AC trolls' "FAIL" vs. me on OpenGL (quoted), lol

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM YOU TROLLING ME BY AC AS USUAL & FAILING, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL will do 3d BY ITSELF exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, in essence on Linux to do an imperfect less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're your words & NOW, they're 'spiced 'with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

You're quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual troll!

(Just as I said how/when/where/who/what//why you failed, since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!)

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, because you'll be eating your words for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS? Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

QUESTION: How many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now?

Using ac troll posts now, Instead of via your multiple registered 'luser' account(s), many no doubt for sockpuppets (whom I dusted each one & keep records of them, hence your ac trolling now, lol, since I can toss your numerous defeats back at you in ALL of your guises), + IMPERSONATING me 3-4 times already this week alone, only to be caught in it, lol... &, only to fail each time as you have here? Please, lmao...

... apk

APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
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http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you

APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you

APK replies to wrong post, dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A s

Coward APK dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A s

Re:Coward APK dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

ac troll you blew it on OpenGL vs. APK here http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40949661

Coward APK dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" quoted on OpenGL vs. me

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

Cheeseburger Brown

[Anonymous Coward]

Awesome new sci-fi writer. Loved his book "Simon of Space". He writes tons of stories, posting first on the web.

If he doesn't make it as a writer, it will be a huge blow to science fiction.

I read Simon of Space over the web, then purchased physical copies of the books for friends and family and so I could re-read it and my less tech-savvy family could read it.

What was really cool is that when he was writing and posting new chapters on the web, he often took suggestions from people's comments and added them to the next chapter. It was almost a collaborative effort. :)

Here's his website:
http://www.cheeseburgerbrown.com/

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted) on OpenGL vs. me

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk/b

Coward APK dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

Coward APK dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pi

Coward APK shames his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exi

Re:Coward APK shames his family

[Anonymous Coward]

You blew it bigtime vs apk, ac troll http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40955935

Re:Coward APK shames his family

[Anonymous Coward]

You blew it bigtime, ac troll, vs apk http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40955953

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3d BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

Coward APK shames his family

[Anonymous Coward]

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http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
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http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201
http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956625
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots r

Coward APK shames his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
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http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
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http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201
http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956625
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots r

Larry Niven

[Anonymous Coward]

Can't believe his work hasn't been filmed, he wrote Ringworld and many other books set in the "Tales of Known Space" universe... he did inspire an episode of the animated Star Trek series though

Coward APK shames his family.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201
http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956625
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots r

Re:Coward APK shames his family.

[Anonymous Coward]

apk dusted you on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and blew you away on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll.

Coward APK shames his family.

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201
http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956625
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots r

Question for friend of APK

[Anonymous Coward]

So... does APK speak about himself in third person to make it look like others care, or does he pay you (with money, blow jobs, etc.) to defend him in such pointless arguments (does it look like this is going anywhere?)?

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows?

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows?

Coward APK dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201
http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956625
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897177
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40894889
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40886171
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042451&cid=40959497
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042547&cid=40960279
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042669&cid=40962027
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files ref

Coward APK dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201
http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956625
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897177
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40894889
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40886171
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042451&cid=40959497
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042547&cid=40960279
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042669&cid=40962027
AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opp

Bet this upsets you, doesn't it?

[Anonymous Coward]

See here -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

* Poor ac troll... lol!

---

Of course, YOUR MASSIVE "FAIL" QUOTED NEXT BELOW obviously did the job on that account AND, you only did THAT to yourself!

Yes, it's "gotten through to you", just judging by your weak illogical off-topic failed ad ad hominem attack attempts here in reaction... so, "Play it again, Sam!":

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk
OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight"

Re:Bet this upsets you, doesn't it?

[Anonymous Coward]

You blew it vs apk, ac troll. Time to eat your words here http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40964265

Re:Bet this upsets you, doesn't it?

[Anonymous Coward]

http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3035653&cid=40971695

Bet this upsets you, doesn't it?

[Anonymous Coward]

See here -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

* Poor ac troll... lol!

---

Of course, YOUR MASSIVE "FAIL" QUOTED NEXT BELOW obviously did the job on that account AND, you only did THAT to yourself!

Yes, it's "gotten through to you", just judging by your weak illogical off-topic failed ad ad hominem attack attempts here in reaction... so, "Play it again, Sam!":

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

Coward APK dishonors his family

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Coward APK dishonors his family

[Anonymous Coward]

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AND MANY MORE

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for

Bet this upsets you, doesn't it?

[Anonymous Coward]

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Bet this upsets you, doesn't it?

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Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words

[Anonymous Coward]

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

Bet this upsets you, doesn't it?

[Anonymous Coward]

See here -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

* Poor ac troll... lol!

---

Of course, YOUR MASSIVE "FAIL" QUOTED NEXT BELOW obviously did the job on that account AND, you only did THAT to yourself!

Yes, it's "gotten through to you", just judging by your weak illogical off-topic failed ad ad hominem attack attempts here in reaction... so, "Play it again, Sam!":

"Not natively on Windows, you have to install third party software to make 3D work on Windows." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 09, @11:05PM (#40941525) QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40941525

1.) OpenGL32.DLL does 3D BY ITSELF in exposing the OpenGL 1.1. standards' functionality (which vidcard OEM's driversets & libs enhance to higher OpenGL std. levels, which NVidia on Windows support as does ATI, probably others too)

See pertinent proof excerpt here:

---

How Does It Work On Windows? All Windows versions support OpenGL. The Microsoft Windows DLL opengl32.dll only directly exposes OpenGL 1.1 functions. The important thing to know is that opengl32.dll belongs to Microsoft.

FROM -> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#How_Does_It_Work_On_Windows.3F [opengl.org]

---

2.) OpenGL32.dll's also a native Microsoft dynamic link library too, not a foreign non-OEM file, & yes, it does 3d display, unlike what you said above.

---

3.) OpenGL32.dll's not an emulator that produces OS environs "heavy weight" either (As Linux's WINE must do reproducing Windows itself in emulation, for Linux to do an even imperfect + less than current Direct X - OpenGL32.DLL's NOT emulating Operating Systems environments with that extra resource kill!)

---

* THUS, once more? Well... you know:

You have to EAT YOUR WORDS!

(You know, they're yours & NOW? Spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" & of course, lol, "flavored" with YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH too, lmao!)

After all - it's your ac trolling words quoted in black & white above in grave technical errors as usual, ac troll!

Just as I said how/when/where/who/what/why since OpenGL32.DLL does have 3d functionality by itself despite your error on that account above, & yes, OpenGL functionality driven too to many builds 1.1 - current 4.x iirc!

APK

P.S.=> By the way - "ENJOY YOUR LUNCH" (breakfast, & dinner too, since you'll be eating your words quoted above for a while now I think...)

After all: LMAO, see YOUR QUOTE ABOVE as proof of your colossal blunder - & my data disproving it entirely!

THIS?

Well, lol, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it "as-is-per-my-own-inimitable style"... This was JUST "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, because your ac trolling makes it so!

(Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

... apk

Bet this upsets you, doesn't it?

[Anonymous Coward]

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http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201
http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956625
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897177
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40894889
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40886171
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042451&cid=40959497
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042547&cid=40960279
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042669&cid=40962027
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&ci

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words

[Anonymous Coward]

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201
http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956625
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897177
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40894889
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40886171
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042451&cid=40959497
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042547&cid=40960279
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042669&cid=40962027
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&ci

Bet this upsets you, doesn't it?

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputa

Oh hai, Alex!

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputa

Re:Oh hai, Alex!

[Anonymous Coward]

saw apk get the best of ya on hosts files today, hilarious http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479

Re:Oh hai, Alex!

[Anonymous Coward]

No, apk just blew you away on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and blew you away on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll.

Re:Oh hai, Alex!

[Anonymous Coward]

apk just blew you away on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and blew you away on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll.

Oh hai, Alex!

[Anonymous Coward]

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputa

Steve Perry - his blog

[mrflash818]

Steve Perry - his blog

http://themanwhonevermissed.blogspot.com/

Weber Safehold: 9/18 US release

[rkhalloran]

The next Safehold book, Midst Trial and Tribulation, is due out 18 Sept in the US.
I'm personally waiting for the next Hedren War book myself...

Stephen R. Donaldson

[fmertz]

While his Thomas Covenant series is pretty well known, the Gap series continued his amazing use of the anti-hero. Why keep reading about such wretched folks? His prose can get heavy, but he does a wonderful job of setting place. His characters are certainly multi-dimensioned, and deep. I've always hoped for a Thomas Covenant movie treatment, and a Gap TV series could be huge.

John Scalzi

[Anonymous Coward]

Old Man War universe and you have got to read Redshirt!

STRUGATSKY

[Anonymous Coward]

Strugatsky:
I do not have the slightest idea how a good English translation can be accomplished of "Monday begins on Saturday" or " "/A tale of Troyka(???)?!
Another brilliant masterpiece - " /A beetle among the ants(?)" - a real horror story with dark prediction about pollution of the environment.

Lem:
Solaris - I will never find words to express my admiration!
Edem - a dark, but realistic prediction for the future of the world!

My all-time favorites!

Herbert W. Franke

[Anonymous Coward]

German author. Some of his SF works from the sixties are simply perfect. I just could find the translations "The orchid cage" and "Mind net" on Amazon. In "The orchid cage", for example, a team investigates an empty city on some planet, and as they move deeper into the city they find out about the advancement of the race that built it. The end is unique and unsettling. A bit like Arthur C. Clarke but more pessimistic.

poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol

[Anonymous Coward]

apk nuked you on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and dusted you on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll. apk makes decent freeware and you're a jealous little done zero with your life troll. accept it. we do.

poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol

[Anonymous Coward]

apk nuked you on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and dusted you on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll. apk makes decent freeware and you're a jealous little done zero with your life troll. accept it. we do.

poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol

[Anonymous Coward]

apk nuked you on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and dusted you on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll. apk makes decent freeware and you're a jealous little done zero with your life troll. accept it. we do.

poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol

[Anonymous Coward]

apk nuked you on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and dusted you on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll. apk makes decent freeware and you're a jealous little done zero with your life troll. accept it. we do.

Underapreciated Scxience fiction writers

[Anonymous Coward]

Cordwainer Smith certainly.

poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lmao

[Anonymous Coward]

apk nuked you on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 and dusted you on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 you ac troll. apk makes decent freeware and you're a jealous little done zero with your life troll. accept it. we do.

Few more

[Anonymous Coward]

George Alec Effinger - great books
Mike Resnic - westerner SF

I don't think he's under appreciated, but I saw no mention of Larry Niven here. So here it is for grep's sake.

aw, poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol

[Anonymous Coward]

apk nuked ya on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 + beat ya on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 ya weak ac troll. apk makes decent freeware and yer a jealous little done zero with yer life troll. accept it. we do. mod me down like ya did before, i'll just post it again to piss ya off with simple truths shown in the links above, lol! Ya post like the ac troll coward ya are, and question anyone posting that way too? Oh, that's high comedy. Pot callin a kettle black!

aw, poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lmao

[Anonymous Coward]

apk nuked ya on hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479 + beat ya on OpenGL too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3033483&cid=40949705 ya weak ac troll. apk makes decent freeware and yer a jealous little done zero with yer life troll. accept it. we do. mod me down like ya did before, i'll just post it again to piss ya off with simple truths shown in the links above, lol! ya post like the ac troll coward ya are, and question anyone posting that way too?oh, that's high comedy.pot callin a kettle black!

Spider Robinson

[drakaan]

My all-time favorite sci-fi author. A thoughtful writer that is equally good at characters and dilemmas.