Domain: altavista.com
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Re:#oldnews.
Wait! Wait! Wait!
I have a piece of news, too. I want to tell everyone about "teh internet" and the best way I know how to search on it. -
Lindows all over again?
Does this mean that groups like Vista Windows, AltaVista, WorldVista, Vista, and Friends of Vista are all going to sue Microsoft on the same grounds that Microsoft sued Lindows a while back?
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Re:Chavs
Thumpmobile Zapper looks as if it'd be the perfect solution for you:
http://www.heise.de/ct/Redaktion/cm/Thumpmobile_Za pper.html
(Babelfished translation: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr?lp=de_ en&url=http%3A//www.heise.de/ct/Redaktion/cm/Thump mobile_Zapper.html , although I don't know if the original or the translation is more difficult to grok. ;) -
Oh, god, no, please!
Ah, multi-target urls? I picture this as clicking 1 link, opening 2 different links; though, drop down menus all over a page could be just as annoying.
I'm picturing yet another feature that will only useful to spam companies. I'd like to throw this idea in the trash next to pop-up(under) windows, blinking text, flash pseudo pop-ups, and the marquee tag.
None of which are bad in and of themselves, just how they are used. All we need now is for wikipedia to turn into an annoying version del.icio.us, with every word linked to search results of that word. (BTW, the link for "that" I believe is the definition of irony.)
Now, imagine this used on a whole page, with each one popping up a list of 20 links. This isn't a new idea, but just the idea of everyone using it just turns my stomach. -
Re:Engadget
Yeah, but half the fun of pages that aren't english is seeing what crap you end up with when you run it through "the fish"
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Re:Pollute Canada
Speaking of Grand Teton...do you know how the name translates into English?
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Re:How do you say this in Norgwegian?
You certainly aren't... how did you come up with that horribly bad translation, anyway? I wasn't aware of any English to Norwegian option for the fish.
Here's a correct version:
Senere finner vi ut at noen betalte Guido for å dukke opp på dørstokken hans med et balltre og knuse kneskålene hans. -
In argentina...
Only old people keeps logs...
Ok, avoid the bad joke, today I found out this link about a law for ISP and how much they should log and for how much this info should be keeped.
The original link is in spanish, but in resume it talks about logs of all user activity (sited visites, information trasmited, etc) and how it should be keeped by ten years... and of course, how the ISP should take charge of all this, no the state. -
Re:Google vs Altavista
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Microsoft denies that such a $1 agreement existsAccording to this http://futurezone.orf.at/futurezone.orf?read=deta
i l&id=268137 (German language) news site, Microsoft denies that such an agreement exists.Translate with http://babelfish.altavista.com/ or similar.
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Re:Achtung! Alles Schrägstrichpunkten!
Behold the might of the Babelfish translator!
Point of diagonal stroke is not for the portmangritten and goatseposten. Is easy droppenpacket routers and makes it for 503-errorn with trollenpost unt the that Soviet reversen. Is not for trades with the dumbkopfen. Craksmoken more moderate keepen mausclicken Hans in pockets must! Relaxen and watchen blinkenlights. -
Re:IDIOT
" You need quote marks (") if you're searching for a particular phrase. "
I wasn't searching for a particular phrase, I was searching for a bunch of words. If I search for a bunch of words and Google gives me second or third tier sites, how would I know that I was not getting the best sites, or how to fix the query to get the best sites?
Fortunately, Google suggests this for "search":
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=search
Altavisa at top slot, which works correctly without me being psychic.
http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=hi story+chocolate+has+been+associated+with+romance+a nd+sharing&kgs=0&kls=0
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Re:Needs a *bit* more work...
I believe that the translation engine that's used in your link uses Google's old translation tech, which is based on Babelfish (I think - I could be wrong - but once Altavista went into obscurity, this translater popped up with the exact same interface). It's been around a while, and has a limited set of languages it can translate to. Google's new code is supposed to end up much better than this, but I have no idea how mature it is, so there's a good chance it's still not up to par with the Babelfish code.
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Re:You know it's a dupe when...
Next we'll be having
/. stories covering the /. stories about the /. stories about the /. stories...A good point, though, is that since the rise of Google, most of the other search engines have de-cluttered their search pages, removing almost everything from them.
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Translation please
Damn, even Babelfish has no idea what to do with it.
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Re:Mirror - archiving seems to have been blocked !
I couldn't access 127.0.0.1 so I tried archive.org, seems the sites admins have blocked archiving:
We're sorry, access to http://127.0.0.1/* has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.
and Google reports " Sorry, no information is available for the URL 127.0.0.1 "
couldn't translate it via babelfish either :-( Could someone post the contents of 127.0.0.1 - thanks!
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AltaVista
AltaVista has had an audio and video search for a long time.
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Re:bablefish
My favorite line (from a comment): "With open SOURCE is too much abgekupfert." Don't know what it means, but I find my self agreeing...
You must have missed the line about how Windows Longhorn has "confused fluttering windows, see bill guaranty on demos." I think that's even funnier. -
agree with the article...I would have to agree with the article on the following point:
The problem here is to implement in all drivers sufficient 2D-XRender-Hardwarebeschleunigung - those actually simply only one special case of the existing 3D-Beschleunigung represents.
I've had a hard enough time trying to figure out how to say "Hardwarebeschleunigung" let along trying to implement all the drivers for it.Despite this it is good to know however that...Without the parallel running videoaufzeichnung the animations ran absolutely liquid.
Karama Reedemer: Below is the babelfish translation to the mirror. Mirror dot translation -
Re:Big Fight-- show some might and BITE"God, PLEASE, if you exist, give Brazil the senses not to buy into this microsoft (...) addiction. (...)
Brazil, if you're listening, REGAIN your freedom and independence. (...)"
Sorry, God is unavaible at the moment. But his substitute has already dealt with this. You see, the Micromind proposal for shipping the "Connected PC" with its Windows X-tremelly Poor Sucker Edition was already rejected by the Brazillian government. I'm sorry I don't have an English link, but you can use the fish.
I can, however, translate the words of Sérgio Amadeu, director of the Federal Data Processing Service (SERPRO):
"We don't want to offer an inferior technology for those with lower income. This is discrimination."
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Extremity of the premium for maximizing anonymity
For its kind of the letter, so that the people, which know it, cannot even recognize it, funciónelo with a service of the translation in the line as Babelfish to disguise.
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Re:In case anyone cares...
AC: Minna Daisuki basically means "Everyone (loves/really likes)"
True, but sentence order in Japanese is not the same as in English. Instead of "subject verb object", it is "subject object verb", or even "object subject verb", as each noun has a suffix telling which role it plays in the sentence. That suffix can be omitted, in which case the listener takes her best guess as to what role it plays. If you just say "Minna daisuki" by itself, that may be interpreted as "I love everyone", because that's more likely than "everyone loves me". (Test it yourself, such as by pasting words from it into Bablefish)
So, if the verb isn't at the end, its not really a grammatical Japanese sentence at all, and the true meaning is anyone's guess. It could just as easily mean "Katamari Damacy loves everyone"... or, it could be an intentional mimicry of English word order (as in "Everyone Loves Raymond") -
Bout freaking time.
I was wondering when they would finally kill AltaVista.
They still need an audio search, though. -
Bout freaking time.
I was wondering when they would finally kill AltaVista.
They still need an audio search, though. -
Re:More Apple copying
I haven't been able to find the "expanded" pic I was looking for, but here's what I have found:
go here and look for the entry on 12 May 2003 titled "Detail to Mac OS X.3 Panther." The little pic on the right shows a pile in its normal, unexpanded state. The pic I can't find, of the expanded state, would look like that except that it would be expanded vertically so that you could see all the icons. I suppose it would sort of float above the Finder window, kind of like when you're dragging an icon, so the rest of the window wouldn't have to be re-arranged. Imagine a dock-like scaling effect.
The other, different concept can be seen here and is described here (look for the entry titled "Steaming Piles"). This one seems to me a little less likely to be the "correct" interface, but all they had to work with was the patent application... -
Re:No.
UserLinux answers "no" (in European).
For those of us who do not understand European, here is Babel Fish translation to American.
Human thanslation in progress, will be posted as soon as it is finished. -
I like it!
Also for control process applications an interesting thing is
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pag econtent?lp=ru_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ipu.rssi.ru %2FLABS%2FLAB49%2Flab49rad.html
made by Russian Institute or Control Sciences. -
Re:We all know why
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German word of the day
Besserwisser
For all of you who don't know what it means... here's a translator. -
In the interest of fairness
Here's a link to the page translated from French to German, to include some of our European members that too often get overlooked.
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Babelfish?
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Babelfish
According to Babel Fish:
Ce que vous ne savez pas ne peut pas vous blesser and l'ignorance est bonheur. -
Put another way...
Do you really think it would be difficult at all for Google to just manually tweak their search database to make their pages on traffic come up first given the appropriate searches?
If they went that way, how easy do you think it would be to spot? Is it not better that they are doing this in a relatively open manner? Is it not their database that they are manipulating? Has anyone tried the user agent strings for other spiders?
If you think Google's cheating, there are many other choices out there[1] for you.
- It's interesting that this search, on GOOGLE, lists Google seventh, AFTER who many of us perceive as their #1 competitor, Yahoo.[2]
- It's also interesting that Slashdot, a site filled with academic and math geeks[3], does not allow the <sup> tag in posts.
- And academic math geeks.
- Unreferenced footnote. Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
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Re:Link to original article, not translation
This is an English-language site. I would say that both the original and the translation should be in the story.
You call this English?I really must visit Gibberland sometime, but I guess I'll struggle with the language.
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Re:Yes, but...The article is lacks any information about price, but digging through the translated comments attached to the article, it seems as though you can buy 8 hours (480 minutes) of access for 30 euro in the stations. (4€ for an hour.)
Whether or not the same pricing model would be carried over to the on-board access no one knows.
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Re:Yes, but...The article is lacks any information about price, but digging through the translated comments attached to the article, it seems as though you can buy 8 hours (480 minutes) of access for 30 euro in the stations. (4€ for an hour.)
Whether or not the same pricing model would be carried over to the on-board access no one knows.
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Actually, they are as good as dead
According to this article in the German IT magazine Heise.de (use the fish), the danish parliament has giving their minister for economy, Bendt Bendtsen, binding orders to request a complete restart of the whole negotiations.
The parliament of the Netherlands have giving their representative orders to support any demands for new negotiations.
Finally, the German representative would face sever pressure (he'd probably have to resign) should he ignore the German parliants demands for new negotiations.
As for many of the "new" EU members, they will probably not support a decision that might severly restrict their fledgeling IT economy - no matter how much Microsoft and the other "big players" try to lobby.
So, all in all, its as good as dead - at least for now. -
Re:Slashdot: News for Lawyers.
Hmm... let me look at the front page.
Linux: Debian to be Marketed to Japan and China Linux (nerd)
Star Wars Sith Trailer and the O.C. Star Wars (nerd)
IT: Virginia Court Overturns Spammer Convictions Law regarding spam? important to IT workers. (vaguely nerd)
Google Calendar Coming Soon? Google (nerd)
IT: New Vulnerabilities Discovered in Firefox 1.0 Security + Firefox = (definately nerd)
Sony Ericsson Announces First Walkman Phone Tech goodies (nerd)
Science: Double-Slit Experiment in Time, Not Space Physics (very nerdy)
Your Rights Online: Appeals Court Sends Eolas Case Back For New Trial Again, yes it's law, but important to people in the software industry. verdict: (nerd)
Linux: LiveCD Lets You Try Out Project Looking Glass ( très nerdy )
Games: More Powerhouse Designers on Next-Gen Xbox video games culture? That would be filed under (nerd).
So, where is this lack of News for Nerds? Only two legal stories on the front page at the time of my posting, one relating to web browser IP infringements, and the other one being SPAM.
I don't think we've been able to find a technical method to stop spam that doesn't suck, so we've now gotta go the legal route. In my experience nerds rely more on digital communications than most non-nerds, so anything that can affect the medium as much as spam becomes important (thus newsworthy) to nerds.
Or do you have this as your Slashdot front page perchance?
And if the amount of legal news still gets your riled up, you can edit your Homepage and take out the "your rights online" and "politics" sections, reducing the offending reports.
I mean, what self respecting nerd would be into politics and law and all that boring stuff??? -
Yahoo == Altavista + AllTheWeb + Inktomi + ...
Boy, I loved Yahoo back then. I suppose I stopped using Yahoo as my search engine when that message went away. If Yahoo had used its internet portal identity with Google's search capabilities, they would've been an unstoppable Juggernaut.While almost all the other
.com's were .bombing, Yahoo very quietly amassed an enormous portfolio of once high-flying search engines [on pennies to the dollar, compared to their pre-crash values]:Altavista
So I wouldn't count them out just yet.
AllTheWeb
Inktomi
Overture
etc...
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Article pretty slim on information.
The link at the bottom of the page to the german "computerbase.de" provides much more information. Just make sure you run it through the fish.
Even after fishing it provides more detail than the original article.
- Cary
--Fairfax Underground: Where Fairfax County comes out to play -
Re:Thanking the developers
In most cases they would be more grateful for a neat patch with some feature, for some words of praise, and especially with success stories of their software.
I wrote this little piece of crap. Okay, it got obsoleted really fast, it does the job but isn't anything great and there's practically no audience. But then I found this blog entry (fish link) and felt really special :) It's what makes such projects great, people's gratitude. Not money. Just the fact that you're the hero. -
Re:Next story about this will be...
Before you call it funny, it happened in Belgium.
The belgian postal service set up a mailinglist which they used to warn people on new worms spreading.
Only staff members had the right to post, guess somebody messed up because the Lirva virus got spread by this list. (Translation of ZDnet article). -
Heise News article
Theres also an article on the german newsswite Heise : http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/56678
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Re:French have a point there
"In the subsequent weeks after the editorial was published, Jeanneney has toned down his statements made in the French media, but remains the leading proponent for mobilizing funding for the digitalization of European libraries. A Google spokesperson told BetaNews that Jeanneney's remarks were a reflection of his fundraising efforts."
Exactly what is the controversy here? A guy trying to encourage Europe to digitize their libraries does so by trying to scare his compatriots about the concept of a unipolar worldview that may occur due to a project that's already underway. Isn't that... well... kind of expected?
Reading over a babelfish translation of his editorial brings that point home further - it's obvious that his intended target is not Google, but the European libraries. People are really making a big deal over nothing.
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Horrible comparison
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skirt star need a guitar!
Since skirt star need a guitar, no meal remained for me:
... Amiga 500 + guitar neck.
Coworker: Andre Pluemer and friends, those from time to time parts of the Sperrm?
Rock on... berzerker! -
Pretty Cool
I haven't really had the time to browse all of the ideas here, but this one really stands out to me
RFID and Barcode Beer Fridge
If looks aren't decieving, you can use this baby to check your beer supply, and maybe even let you check from work to see what you need to pick up on the way home for the weekend. -
Still Life in the Amiga world!
Its a PITA to keep it tuned, but it has at least 4 voices!
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pag econtent?lp=de_en&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de% 2Fct%2Fmachflott%2Fprojekte%2F55771 -
Babelfish translation..
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Why is Louis Vuitton acting unethically?It should work in exactly the manner you've said is wrong. If Ford pretends to be selling Toyota cars, that would be a passing off problem but that's not what is happening here. The ads are correctly describing what is being sold and the trademark is used solely to ensure that the ads appear in their correct position, adjacent to the intended search results. Not replacing them, but adjacent to them.
Google is acting in the manner most consistent with the interests of the consumer.
I suggest that Louis Vuitton deal with the fact that yes, they do have competitors who do buy ad space adjacent to their products. Trying to insist that competitors products not be placed adjacent to theirs is not in the interests of consumers. It's Louis Vuitton which is acting improperly and should be fined in this case.
Meanwhile, I'll remember that Louis Vuitton apparently has so little confidence in their products that they need to try approaches I consider to be unethical to try to stop consumers from finding out about the alternatives in the marketplace.
Please note that Slashdot displays the destination of links adjacent to them, so no reader of this post can possibly be confused about where any of the links I have used goes. And yes, this post is intended to be amusing as well as make a serious point about competition, lack of consumer confusion and ethics.