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They need to move inland already.
People should have moved inland already. We aren't more powerful than the sea. Here is a relevant web cartoon I made from 2006. http://jastiv.keenspace.com/d/...
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It's "Beck 2: Spår i Mörker" all over ag
Hey, they did the exact same thing in 1992 or something with a Swedish movie called Beck 2: Spår i Mörker. That time the victim was Bungie's game Marathon 2. (Though they claimed it was another game called "Final Doom". They didn't fool anyone, as you can see: read all about it, plus screenshots.
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Some more SF web comics
* A Mad Tea Party
* Among the Chosen
* Boschen & Nesuko
* Bulletproof
* Crackling Silence
* Indavo
* Level
* Midnight Gurl
* Mondo Mecho
* Monica Furious * Reman Mythology
* Seraphic Blue
* Terinu
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I have isolated the city-experience within me and have examined it closely. The idea of a city fascinates me. The formation of a biological community without a functioning, supportive social community leads to havoc. Whole worlds have become single biological communities without an interrelated social structure and this has always led to ruin. It becomes dramatically instructive under overcrowded conditions. The ghetto is lethal. Psychic stresses of overcrowding create pressures which will erupt. The city is an attempt to manage these forces. The social forms by which cities make the attempt are worth study. Remember that there exists a certain malevolence about the formation of any social order. It is the struggle for existence by an artificial entity. Despotism and slavery hover at the edges. Many injuries occur and, thus, the need for laws. The law develops its own power structure, creating more wounds and new injustices. Such trauma can be healed by cooperation, not by confrontation. The summons to cooperate identifies the healer.
Leto Atreides, The Stolen Journals
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COOKIE!
Ooh, [Listening to 11.975Mhz] = I like it! Thanks muchly for the linkage.
It is inducing gigglement, and the cute girls make it worthwhile.
:D But it does not immediately strike me as brilliant in the same way as Pokey does. 11.975Mhz seems to be more silliness/randomness based. I can appreciate silliness and randomness, but I see some major distinction between that and Pokey's style. Words fail me, however, in actually explaining this distinction. What do you think?I also recommend Farchie Archie, Spamusement, and Animutation. (The latter is a Flash genre rather than a comic strip, but it's a similar sort of humour.)
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Re:Sky banners
Yeah... not since the Solaris 10 launch when RedHat had one flying over San Jose that said "Just Another Day at Red Hat".
Awesome! :)
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Some webcomics
Here's some diverse webcomics for your browsing..
Apokalupsis Webcomics
Nth Dimension
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Some webcomics
Here's some diverse webcomics for your browsing..
Apokalupsis Webcomics
Nth Dimension
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Re:talking heads
Red vs Blue isn't that great. Sure, it can be funny in a stupid sort of way. But there are far better methods of entertainment out there. Hell, I'd rather read an online comic strip.
8-bit Theater
Ctrl-Alt-Del
Van Von Hunter
Cup of Suffering
Elf Only Inn
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Re:They're still in business?
"After the horrible mangling they put "Vampire: The Masquerade" through"
Oh, they're the ones responsible for giving us "Vampire: The Pretension?" Heck, I'd boycott 'em just for that!
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Re:World killer?
Of COURSE they do.
I just hope nobody gets the idea to nudge the comet towards, say, Washington...or Iraq---or the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan...or....
---Al Schroeder III of MINDMISTRESS---technologically advanced armor, incredibly brilliant mind, and unlike Dr. Doom, was not mishandled and mischarecterized in a recent major motion picture.
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Re:Not a fine art
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Re:Been there, done that.
There've been some distributed at various conventions in dead tree format. Watch out for "Deadly Bear Attacks"
Deadly Bears Attack can be found here. It's a thread on the Keenspace forums with links to various sites where the PDF might still be hosted. Feel free to download and distribute the PDF file. It's licensed under Creative Commons to allow making and selling copies but not modification of the content. Instructions for printing the comic are also available in or linked from the thread. If you would like to mirror the file, please let us know so we can link your mirror in the thread.
The problem with Deadly Bears is that it's a sampler of comics available online for free. I put 10 issues in my local comic store and over the course of 2 months managed to sell 4 of them.
I printed issue 1 of my own comic and put it in the same store. Again, I managed to sell only 4 copies (at least two went to people I know). People would notice that my comic was available online and not buy the print version.
Having a free webcomic is great if it's free. I see printing comics as a significant expense and would like to be compensated for that. The same with paid advertising. If I'm going to put money into my comic like that I want something in return. Art supplies and such I can deal with. $10 for a pad of bristol board every 5 months is worth while for me as an artist because I get enjoyment out of writing, drawing and inking. The bristol allows me to show off my artwork as well. It's sturdy and I don't worry about it banging it up by carrying it around in my back pack when I go to cons and get togethers. If spending $15 to advertise my comic on onlinecomics.net or gains me 2 readers, I will never see a return on that $15 unless I'm able to sell $15 worth of merchandise because of the advertising. Since I have no merchandise to speak of, I can't justify the expense.
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Re:naturally...
"we don't sleep around"
We can't sleep around.
"we're generally good at the things we try"
We never have the opportunity to try (see previous rebuttal).
"we have *excellent* finger dexterity"
I've seen it suggested otherwise.
"most importantly, we have imagination!"
I've seen some of our Star Trek fan scripts. No, we don't. -
Keeping sf ahead of the science...
Well, so much for my webcomics character at other devices keeping above the curve of science....that software sounds very like the "lifeloom" described, or even the "metamother". Oh, well. It was inevitable that someone sooner or later would build an easier interface to do genetic manipulation.---Al
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Re:take the contract
I would have agreed with you a few months ago. But since then, I've seen exactly this pre-pay-for-content model work with online comics in a couple place.
Example: In addition to free weekday Roomies or Shortpacked comics, David Willis charged $100 per weekly installment of It's Walky!, an online comic he ended a few months back. It had a natural spinoff story, which he was willing to tell in beautiful color on his weekends if readers made it his while.
A very different model has worked for Ralph E. Hayes Jr. of Tales of the Questor, Golbin Hollow and Nip and Tuck. He just announced that whatever comic earned him the most donations in a month would get extra TLC the next month.
If stupid schemes like this work for a GIF, it'll work for an MP3 or album of them. How much you can earn is a matter of debate, but you'll clearly get something.
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Re:take the contract
I would have agreed with you a few months ago. But since then, I've seen exactly this pre-pay-for-content model work with online comics in a couple place.
Example: In addition to free weekday Roomies or Shortpacked comics, David Willis charged $100 per weekly installment of It's Walky!, an online comic he ended a few months back. It had a natural spinoff story, which he was willing to tell in beautiful color on his weekends if readers made it his while.
A very different model has worked for Ralph E. Hayes Jr. of Tales of the Questor, Golbin Hollow and Nip and Tuck. He just announced that whatever comic earned him the most donations in a month would get extra TLC the next month.
If stupid schemes like this work for a GIF, it'll work for an MP3 or album of them. How much you can earn is a matter of debate, but you'll clearly get something.
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Re:take the contract
I would have agreed with you a few months ago. But since then, I've seen exactly this pre-pay-for-content model work with online comics in a couple place.
Example: In addition to free weekday Roomies or Shortpacked comics, David Willis charged $100 per weekly installment of It's Walky!, an online comic he ended a few months back. It had a natural spinoff story, which he was willing to tell in beautiful color on his weekends if readers made it his while.
A very different model has worked for Ralph E. Hayes Jr. of Tales of the Questor, Golbin Hollow and Nip and Tuck. He just announced that whatever comic earned him the most donations in a month would get extra TLC the next month.
If stupid schemes like this work for a GIF, it'll work for an MP3 or album of them. How much you can earn is a matter of debate, but you'll clearly get something.
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A few of my fav web comics
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Re:This does serve a useful purpose
This is one I would have liked to be included. I had lost the URL but I found it again..
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Nth Dimension -
KeenSpot and KeenSpace artists join in the grind!
Not only Chris Crosby, Brad Guigar, Ryan Smith and Steve Troop have joined from KeenSPOT...
...but up and comming artists Jennie Breeden (The Devil's Panties), Bruce Goer (A Day in the Life), and Matt Johnson (Cortland) have joined from KeenSPACE.
The SPACE team WILL WIN!!! -
KeenSpot and KeenSpace artists join in the grind!
Not only Chris Crosby, Brad Guigar, Ryan Smith and Steve Troop have joined from KeenSPOT...
...but up and comming artists Jennie Breeden (The Devil's Panties), Bruce Goer (A Day in the Life), and Matt Johnson (Cortland) have joined from KeenSPACE.
The SPACE team WILL WIN!!! -
KeenSpot and KeenSpace artists join in the grind!
Not only Chris Crosby, Brad Guigar, Ryan Smith and Steve Troop have joined from KeenSPOT...
...but up and comming artists Jennie Breeden (The Devil's Panties), Bruce Goer (A Day in the Life), and Matt Johnson (Cortland) have joined from KeenSPACE.
The SPACE team WILL WIN!!! -
Re:Reassuring (Off-topic, of course!)
ObSigRef:
(Pavlof.... name ring a bell?)
Yes, yes it does..
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Dating SimulationsNobody wants to play a fat guy or an ugly gal.
I disagree. Start playing the various anime-based dating games and you'll find that often, you're not playing the most stunning piece of humanity in the game. Admittedly, a minority of them are truly ugly, but they adhere a bit closer to the reality of the kind of person who desires to play a game where choosing the right dialogue choices will result in non-stop sex.That said, there's an interesting double-standard there. Jackie's Fridge said it pretty well when one of the characters (female) commented that when you see an ugly guy walking down the street with a beautiful girl on his arm, you think "lucky bloke" whereas when you see a good-looking guy with an ugly girl on his arm, you think "poor sod." (admittedly, I tend to use less British slang, but I'm trying to get close as possible to the original quote without trying to access said site from work)
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Re:How many geeks....
I don't think many geek know how to screw anything...
Ho, you didn't meant that in a sexual manner...
Well, then probably just one, but because he has never seen anything close to 'true light' he might get burned by it... -
Obligatory
Link to ClicheQuest! The best in MMORPG satire!
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comic websites
As a present day, comic writer (sorta), I've been exposed to quite a few resources online where people can get a START on webcomic production. Drunk Duck. Free site to join/read. some very nice comics here along with some that are obviously made by some 10 year old who just found MS paint on his computer
particularly good comics here are:
Earthbound
The_Gods_of_ArrKelaan
Nekko_and_Joruba
UNA_Frontiers
Inner_Res
BadBlood
Norm_and_Cory
GAAK
The_Adventures_of_Vindibudd_Superhero_In_Training
Labgoats
Buzzcomix-Another good source for online comic listings
Quicksketch-small community, but all handpicked. Also, very PG rating for people who don't like all the blood and gore
I think most people who've read comics much online know of the big ones like: Keenspot-Invitation only, but lots of good comics here...
Keenspace- Keenspot affiliate which allows anyone to host a comic...
By the way, I am not officially affiliated with the above sites. Like I said, I've been doing this comic stuff for a while now (reading them, and finally working on one.) Drunkduck and buzzcomix have been very useful to me, so for any of you out there trying to find a place to start, you could try there. also, if any of you need more comics to read, there are lots of good strips. humor, manga/anime, bloody, happy/pure, fantasy, sci-fi, whatever you want.
hope this was useful to someone out there.
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Re:Ah, D&D
Or Ghastly. Cool stuff!
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Re:The first 15 posts on this are things you cant
example
That's actually the only thing I could find on the subject using google, but recently there was a flap by a guy over how it was wrong for us to call a team "the Redskins", because how would we like it if there was a team called "the niggers". Needless to say, he got yelled at.
In response to your favorite example, I think a storyline from FlemCo addresses it, but you gotta sit through ~13 (I think) strips to get the idea. -
Comics that are better than UF
... because, honestly, there aren't that many goood cartoons out there, maybe a handful, and Illiad is still in the top 10 tech comics, IMHO.I used to think User Friendly was pretty good, but then either it's quality deteriorated, or i found other, better comics to put it in perspective.
Here's a list of (some of) the comics that in my opinion are better than User Friendly. As usual, your opinion may differ and your mileage may vary.
Adventurers! the best of the CRPG comics.
Dragon Tails comic about strange geeky dragons and a squirrel or two. (Has jokes that cover all kinds of geekery, not just the tech variety) The Wings of ChangeFantasy comic about a dragon, a girl with wings, and a group of pixie children
The Devil's Panties "Real Life" type comic about a female protagonist and a couple of her friends. Frequently touches on goth and comic geekdom, and there's a side comic about LARPs.
Sparkling Generation Valkyrie YuukiA manga style take-off on the "pretty-girl" anime genre. Has some Ranma-esque gender-bending themes if that disturbs you.
Freefall Science fiction comic, primarily focused on an kleptomaniac alien scavenger, a friendly but somewhat dim robot, and a genetically engineered anthropomorphic female wolf.
Ozy and Millie One of those comics with a world (mostly) like ours but filled with anthropomorphic animals. Frequently philisophical or political.
Something Positive "Real life" type comic with a very twisted and sometimes sick sense of humor.
Venus Envy A comic about highschool aged MtF transgendered person dealing with all the issues you'd expect such a person to be dealing with. Obviously lots of gender-bending issues.
8-bit Theater tied for second best CRPG comic.
RPG World the other tied for second best CRPG comic.
Anti-here for Hire by the author of Adventurers! Same style mostly, but with a comic-book superhero theme.
Megatokyo some people love the comic, some people can't stand it. The art is certainly pretty though in either case.
Penny Arcade people talk about it enough on Slashdot (including several mentions in this thread) that i'm not going to even bother describing it.Okay, I'm tired of making descriptions, so some other good comics that didn't make it into the top tier (but still better than User Friendly IMHO) if you feel like looking around, PvP, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Saturnalia. The Life of Riley, No Need for Bushido
And last (just because everyone here has probably heard of it already) Sluggy, which has had its unfunny moments, but unlike User Friendly has managed to pull out of those slumps and return to its former heights every time (so far)
There's also a large set of comics that i only check every couple of weeks because they don't updated more than once a week, but are still worth taking the time to check. However i'm going to just stick to my daily list at the moment.
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Comics that are better than UF
... because, honestly, there aren't that many goood cartoons out there, maybe a handful, and Illiad is still in the top 10 tech comics, IMHO.I used to think User Friendly was pretty good, but then either it's quality deteriorated, or i found other, better comics to put it in perspective.
Here's a list of (some of) the comics that in my opinion are better than User Friendly. As usual, your opinion may differ and your mileage may vary.
Adventurers! the best of the CRPG comics.
Dragon Tails comic about strange geeky dragons and a squirrel or two. (Has jokes that cover all kinds of geekery, not just the tech variety) The Wings of ChangeFantasy comic about a dragon, a girl with wings, and a group of pixie children
The Devil's Panties "Real Life" type comic about a female protagonist and a couple of her friends. Frequently touches on goth and comic geekdom, and there's a side comic about LARPs.
Sparkling Generation Valkyrie YuukiA manga style take-off on the "pretty-girl" anime genre. Has some Ranma-esque gender-bending themes if that disturbs you.
Freefall Science fiction comic, primarily focused on an kleptomaniac alien scavenger, a friendly but somewhat dim robot, and a genetically engineered anthropomorphic female wolf.
Ozy and Millie One of those comics with a world (mostly) like ours but filled with anthropomorphic animals. Frequently philisophical or political.
Something Positive "Real life" type comic with a very twisted and sometimes sick sense of humor.
Venus Envy A comic about highschool aged MtF transgendered person dealing with all the issues you'd expect such a person to be dealing with. Obviously lots of gender-bending issues.
8-bit Theater tied for second best CRPG comic.
RPG World the other tied for second best CRPG comic.
Anti-here for Hire by the author of Adventurers! Same style mostly, but with a comic-book superhero theme.
Megatokyo some people love the comic, some people can't stand it. The art is certainly pretty though in either case.
Penny Arcade people talk about it enough on Slashdot (including several mentions in this thread) that i'm not going to even bother describing it.Okay, I'm tired of making descriptions, so some other good comics that didn't make it into the top tier (but still better than User Friendly IMHO) if you feel like looking around, PvP, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Saturnalia. The Life of Riley, No Need for Bushido
And last (just because everyone here has probably heard of it already) Sluggy, which has had its unfunny moments, but unlike User Friendly has managed to pull out of those slumps and return to its former heights every time (so far)
There's also a large set of comics that i only check every couple of weeks because they don't updated more than once a week, but are still worth taking the time to check. However i'm going to just stick to my daily list at the moment.
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Comics that are better than UF
... because, honestly, there aren't that many goood cartoons out there, maybe a handful, and Illiad is still in the top 10 tech comics, IMHO.I used to think User Friendly was pretty good, but then either it's quality deteriorated, or i found other, better comics to put it in perspective.
Here's a list of (some of) the comics that in my opinion are better than User Friendly. As usual, your opinion may differ and your mileage may vary.
Adventurers! the best of the CRPG comics.
Dragon Tails comic about strange geeky dragons and a squirrel or two. (Has jokes that cover all kinds of geekery, not just the tech variety) The Wings of ChangeFantasy comic about a dragon, a girl with wings, and a group of pixie children
The Devil's Panties "Real Life" type comic about a female protagonist and a couple of her friends. Frequently touches on goth and comic geekdom, and there's a side comic about LARPs.
Sparkling Generation Valkyrie YuukiA manga style take-off on the "pretty-girl" anime genre. Has some Ranma-esque gender-bending themes if that disturbs you.
Freefall Science fiction comic, primarily focused on an kleptomaniac alien scavenger, a friendly but somewhat dim robot, and a genetically engineered anthropomorphic female wolf.
Ozy and Millie One of those comics with a world (mostly) like ours but filled with anthropomorphic animals. Frequently philisophical or political.
Something Positive "Real life" type comic with a very twisted and sometimes sick sense of humor.
Venus Envy A comic about highschool aged MtF transgendered person dealing with all the issues you'd expect such a person to be dealing with. Obviously lots of gender-bending issues.
8-bit Theater tied for second best CRPG comic.
RPG World the other tied for second best CRPG comic.
Anti-here for Hire by the author of Adventurers! Same style mostly, but with a comic-book superhero theme.
Megatokyo some people love the comic, some people can't stand it. The art is certainly pretty though in either case.
Penny Arcade people talk about it enough on Slashdot (including several mentions in this thread) that i'm not going to even bother describing it.Okay, I'm tired of making descriptions, so some other good comics that didn't make it into the top tier (but still better than User Friendly IMHO) if you feel like looking around, PvP, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Saturnalia. The Life of Riley, No Need for Bushido
And last (just because everyone here has probably heard of it already) Sluggy, which has had its unfunny moments, but unlike User Friendly has managed to pull out of those slumps and return to its former heights every time (so far)
There's also a large set of comics that i only check every couple of weeks because they don't updated more than once a week, but are still worth taking the time to check. However i'm going to just stick to my daily list at the moment.
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Comics that are better than UF
... because, honestly, there aren't that many goood cartoons out there, maybe a handful, and Illiad is still in the top 10 tech comics, IMHO.I used to think User Friendly was pretty good, but then either it's quality deteriorated, or i found other, better comics to put it in perspective.
Here's a list of (some of) the comics that in my opinion are better than User Friendly. As usual, your opinion may differ and your mileage may vary.
Adventurers! the best of the CRPG comics.
Dragon Tails comic about strange geeky dragons and a squirrel or two. (Has jokes that cover all kinds of geekery, not just the tech variety) The Wings of ChangeFantasy comic about a dragon, a girl with wings, and a group of pixie children
The Devil's Panties "Real Life" type comic about a female protagonist and a couple of her friends. Frequently touches on goth and comic geekdom, and there's a side comic about LARPs.
Sparkling Generation Valkyrie YuukiA manga style take-off on the "pretty-girl" anime genre. Has some Ranma-esque gender-bending themes if that disturbs you.
Freefall Science fiction comic, primarily focused on an kleptomaniac alien scavenger, a friendly but somewhat dim robot, and a genetically engineered anthropomorphic female wolf.
Ozy and Millie One of those comics with a world (mostly) like ours but filled with anthropomorphic animals. Frequently philisophical or political.
Something Positive "Real life" type comic with a very twisted and sometimes sick sense of humor.
Venus Envy A comic about highschool aged MtF transgendered person dealing with all the issues you'd expect such a person to be dealing with. Obviously lots of gender-bending issues.
8-bit Theater tied for second best CRPG comic.
RPG World the other tied for second best CRPG comic.
Anti-here for Hire by the author of Adventurers! Same style mostly, but with a comic-book superhero theme.
Megatokyo some people love the comic, some people can't stand it. The art is certainly pretty though in either case.
Penny Arcade people talk about it enough on Slashdot (including several mentions in this thread) that i'm not going to even bother describing it.Okay, I'm tired of making descriptions, so some other good comics that didn't make it into the top tier (but still better than User Friendly IMHO) if you feel like looking around, PvP, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Saturnalia. The Life of Riley, No Need for Bushido
And last (just because everyone here has probably heard of it already) Sluggy, which has had its unfunny moments, but unlike User Friendly has managed to pull out of those slumps and return to its former heights every time (so far)
There's also a large set of comics that i only check every couple of weeks because they don't updated more than once a week, but are still worth taking the time to check. However i'm going to just stick to my daily list at the moment.
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Why use Cryllic?
When we have this.
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Re:Not calvin
People who buy and display them are beneath contempt -- they pollute the memory of The Greatest Comic Strip Evar Bar None.
I have to say, I like Calvin and Hobbes. However, if I were gonna vote for the Greatest Comic Strip Ever Bar None, I'd hope for instant runoff voting, so I could vote for Sexy Losers and Sinfest.
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Re:Harry Knowles is a big, fat, red-headed idiot
Oh, Mr. Breathed. Two words, 'Web Comic'.
One of the funniest things I found on the web lately is Sexy Losers, which someone mentioned here on /.
God that is sick shit, absolutely superb artwork and also hysterically funny. I can't remember another cartoon that had me laughing out loud so much before. Or maybe I'm just depraved.
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Do we *need* online games?
Now honestly, I do like online games for the fact that there is almost always someone willing to play you at any hour of the day, and they don't have to be in your living room to do it. But I swear that some games just weren't meant to be played online. After all, get some friends together and play console games. They're a lot of fun when you can yell at the person who's in the same room as you.
:-)
And there are other reasons too that consoles are better without being online. Granted this comic talks about arcade games, but the concept is the same with console games too. If your opponent is being an ass, you can always hit them since they're most likely right next to you. A lot of the k1dd13z online are just a pain to deal with, and they do nothing but ruin the fun. -
Re:I recallI'm a big webcomic fan for the fact that you will find a LOT of comics online that no publisher in his right mind would consider going near. I don't think I've laughed at a mainstream print comic since I was six. But get online and you're looking at a whole 'nother ballpark.
A perfect example of this is Sexy Losers, my personal favorite. (Warning, comic so NSFW it's not even remotely funny.) The most quoted strip - Girl is about to commit suicide. Guy asks her if he can have sex with her before she jumps. She calls him a pervert. Guy says "Well, I'll just have to wait until your body washes ashore, then." Man, I wish they'd print *that* next to Garfield.
Online comics can go, do, and say things that 99% of publishers wouldn't consider printing, and as such tend to be a lot more origional than the rest. Yes, the vast majority of webcomics are total and complete crap, but every now and then you come across a few gems that drag you in and make you read each and every comic several times over. (I am specifically talking about Venus Envy which I linked to above in the word "a", I never dreamed I would become a huge fan over a comic about freakin' transsexuals, for christ's sakes.)
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Re:I recallI'm a big webcomic fan for the fact that you will find a LOT of comics online that no publisher in his right mind would consider going near. I don't think I've laughed at a mainstream print comic since I was six. But get online and you're looking at a whole 'nother ballpark.
A perfect example of this is Sexy Losers, my personal favorite. (Warning, comic so NSFW it's not even remotely funny.) The most quoted strip - Girl is about to commit suicide. Guy asks her if he can have sex with her before she jumps. She calls him a pervert. Guy says "Well, I'll just have to wait until your body washes ashore, then." Man, I wish they'd print *that* next to Garfield.
Online comics can go, do, and say things that 99% of publishers wouldn't consider printing, and as such tend to be a lot more origional than the rest. Yes, the vast majority of webcomics are total and complete crap, but every now and then you come across a few gems that drag you in and make you read each and every comic several times over. (I am specifically talking about Venus Envy which I linked to above in the word "a", I never dreamed I would become a huge fan over a comic about freakin' transsexuals, for christ's sakes.)
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Re:I recallI'm a big webcomic fan for the fact that you will find a LOT of comics online that no publisher in his right mind would consider going near. I don't think I've laughed at a mainstream print comic since I was six. But get online and you're looking at a whole 'nother ballpark.
A perfect example of this is Sexy Losers, my personal favorite. (Warning, comic so NSFW it's not even remotely funny.) The most quoted strip - Girl is about to commit suicide. Guy asks her if he can have sex with her before she jumps. She calls him a pervert. Guy says "Well, I'll just have to wait until your body washes ashore, then." Man, I wish they'd print *that* next to Garfield.
Online comics can go, do, and say things that 99% of publishers wouldn't consider printing, and as such tend to be a lot more origional than the rest. Yes, the vast majority of webcomics are total and complete crap, but every now and then you come across a few gems that drag you in and make you read each and every comic several times over. (I am specifically talking about Venus Envy which I linked to above in the word "a", I never dreamed I would become a huge fan over a comic about freakin' transsexuals, for christ's sakes.)
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The Devil's Panties!
Think The Devil's Panties, which is probably one of the most creative comics I've ever seen. Always funny. Usually twisted. %-)
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Re:Unfortunatley.
It also allows a lot more comics that are far from mainstream in their topic, but are well done, to survive with audiences of varying sizes. Yes, I agree, there are plenty of amateur comics around, plenty that haven't been updated in months (most of Keenspace's comics fit that), and so on.
But every once in a while one does well - such as Venus Envy. Perhaps only a few hundred fans, but very dedicated. Heck, the author needed a grand to make a move across the country, and the fans had no problem donating to her.
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Some Comics Resources
Underground Comics:
Daniel Clowes
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Ghost World (The Comic)
David Boring
20th Century Eightball
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Robert Crumb
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Book of Mr. Natural
The Life and Death of Fritz the Cat
Complete Crumb (several volumes)
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Harvey Pekar
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American Splendor: The Life and Times of Harvey Pekar
The New American Splendor Anthology
Our Cancer Year
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Maus: A Survivor's Tale (by Art Spiegelman)
Comic Culture:
Ghost World (the Terry Zwigoff movie based on the Daniel Clowes comic of the same name)
Crumb (a biography of underground comic artist Robert Crumb)
American Splendor (a biography of underground comic artist Harvey Pekar)
Online Comics:
Dilbert
Calvin and Hobbes
Ziggy
Sexy Losers (hentai parodies, Not Safe For Work)
This Modern World ("Fair and Balanced" political cartoons with a clear liberal slant)
The Editorial Cartoons of Clay Bennett (2002 Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist)
Daryl Cagle's Professional Cartoonists Index (2003 Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist)
Anyone who knows of more good, free online comics links, or of some little know starving underground artists with godlike skills, feel free to add to this list! (note: excessive use of adjectives due to attempt of avoidance of the overwhelmingly troublesome, inflammatory, odious, objectionable, innefective, senseless, inappropriate, obtuse, antisocial, disjunctive, annoying, obnoxious, irritating, monotonous, wearisome, dull, dispirited, lackluster, uninspired, babble bubble bobble, puzzling, bewildering, headache-inducing, useless, stupid, lame slashdot usefulness filter.) -
Re:Rule 1: Be Funny
OK, you're trolling, but I'm going to bite.
Your rule is absolute, utter crap. I hardly thing that Krazy Kat is funny, or that Maus should be funny. One Over Zero, for the digital world, had a few chuckles now and then, but I didn't read it daily because I loved how utterly hilarious it was. Comics can be more important than a laugh. Krazy Kat was a poetic comic, and is widely regarded as the best newspaper strip of the 20th century. Maus told the story of the Holocaust in way that was both accessable and mature. One Over Zero had a very enjoyable take on religion.
Being funny is hardly an all-encompassing goal, and what you might find stale others will enjoy immensely. If you don't like it, don't read it. -
Re:How about a mix with Star Trek?
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Re:I'm sure (rant)
That was supposed to be a joking reference to LCD, a webcomic based around the newsroom of WLCD, a fictional television station somewhere in Oklahoma (though probably not Frederick). Unfortunately the best parts of the strip's archive disappeared during the massive keenspace crash a couple months ago, and the strip no longer updates..
You're right about the W/K thing, as far as i'm aware. I don't know why the strip's station is named that. -
Re:Recipe for anime piracyHehe, nah, you gotta have something that is the best of both worlds, the girl world and the guy world: Shojo mixed with hentai: Revolutionary girl utena! Hehe...
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Another response to the situation
Ghastly shows support for Penny Arcade as well.
Warning: It is not recommended that you go to this comic from work! -
Re:Admirable pluck...
And it's also spreading, I think that that this is even better cartoon about the topic:
Ghastly's Comic
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My 14,6 �re...
It has been ages since I bought an indy-comic. Partly because there nearest decent comic-store is an hour or so from here - and that seems to cater mainly to the young, inmature section of the market (more tits than in a porno-rag), partly because much of the mainstream norwegian comics are very good (karine haaland, Nemi, Pondus and EON & Wildlife to mention a few), and partly because the web provides me with more under- and overground comics than a sane man can read (Comander Kitty, Fur Will Fly, House of LSD and Kevin & Kell to take the first four on my list of bookmarks).
I don't think that indy-comics printed on dead trees has the importance they had for say, oh, ten to fifteen years ago. The ones that are good will find their way into mainstream magasines (at least this holds true for Norway), the ones that ain't good will die out. That, and the World Wide Wait is the underground printingpress of today; both for comics as well as for writing, art and music.
But as the subject says, that just my 2 cents (by the exchange rate anyway).